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>Who is /fat/ for?For the giggly gourmands working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/
>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).
>Now what?Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html
>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.
>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq
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>>76379419 (OP)how much is the nun benching
>>763794276 chimkens, obviously
>>76379427Approximately 12kg.
6 chubby ducks + two metal buckets + wooden rod
i haven't been to the gym in 3 months and my weight hasn't changed but i can tell my physique has. i look like a fucking woman
>>76379448are you going to get back in the jim?
do any of ya'll watch food videos to satisfy cravings? does it actually work? a friend of mine swore by it when we used to fast
>>76379486Only watch the gross ones; morbidly obese mukbangs, food you find unappetizing, ppl eating in a disgusting way.
Do not watch ones that make the food appealing and/or skinny ppl mukbangs.
Having almost reached my goal weight I've realised something. Life sucks. I'm 30 and finally getting healthy but all that means ultimately is that I can wageslave for the next 30 years until I die. Great, what an amazing world we live in.
Unironically I think GLP1s are going to have massive societal and political ramifications not unlike the introduction of birth control. Except this time it will be the opposite in the sense that it will move the west into the direction of being less cucked. When the population is no longer fat as fuck there is more potential for violence and uprisings and the powers that be know to back down and let the goy have some Ws.
>Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
Please make that make sense for me. If CICOfags are right, how can three week plateaus be a sign of anything except you’re doing something wrong? The only exception I can think of is gaining muscle, or at least muscle water weight? If that’s it, why would suddenly start happening in the middle of a cut?
>>76379459i want to. i'm not sure why i stopped, i just started feeling depressed, then demotivated, and etc. etc. i feel like i had a good routine going and then poof! i'm at a loss again
>>76379460why?
>>7637950830 did bad things to me too. I’ve lost all my idealism. I don’t believe in anything or anyone anymore. I don’t even enjoy music anymore, which freaks me out because it was almost an obsession for me for a good 17 years.
>>76379510I think you’re overstating it. Remember Chud’s Law.
Fucking doctor freaked me out and I overdid it. Had to take an unscheduled day off of the gym. Fucking lunges, single leg split squat, leg extension and calf extension on the same day at 245 lbs, wtf was I thinking. My knees should be good tomorrow to hit my upper body workout, but still very pissed.
>>76379486beard meets food for me. I look at his body and remind myself if I want to do that I need to be thin first.
>>76379519nta, but it is pretty top heavy gay in here. One tripfag with a hank hill ass especially.
>>76379544Why did the doctor freak you out?
>>76379419 (OP)why do I crave grain/bread carbs to be full/cessated? How come veg and fruit dont fill you the same way?
Any tips to beat them? it's the wall, breakfast and evening they get fierce for me to be full, but carrots or bananna's or even broccoli don't do it/last
>>76379600I live in a new place and I used the walk in. I thought I had gout because I already take allopurinol, she insisted that I had to go see a orthopedic surgeon.
I returned today to get the x-ray results. I said the gout is getting getting better, but I would still like a blood test to confirm my uric acid levels. She confirmed the spot that I was pointing to was not the spot the x-ray was showing as an issue. Then proceeds writes me a prescription for orthopedic shoe inserts.
She then explained the x-ray showed issues with my tendons. Yes, I know. The look on my face made her explain she has been doing this for a very long time and I need to trust her.
>>76379510>When the population is no longer fat as fuck there is more potential for violenceThey will just ban it to keep people fat and docile and stop boomers from living too much past retirement age (which would break the already strained pension systems).
Instead your doctor will be mandated to recommend euthanasia as treatment for obesity (Yookay is a pilot program for this).
>>76379603IIRC the bodily function that breaks down carbs goes "Ayo, I'm all out of carbs to break down, eat some bread!" when it's done doing it's thing. It'll shut up if you ignore it but it's really annoying and the only option to get rid of it is to just never eat carbs and at that point you might as well just kill yourself DESU.
>>76379736haha that's pretty good, Sourdough, cereal, crackers, pasta, ramen/soba.. the list goes on man I miss them
Are you even human if you don't eat bread?
Grains are literally actually the reason civilization took off.
I don't want to live like this.
>>76379751replace bread w a rice cake alternative, far less calories, somewhat similar taste
Somebody at work is passing out huge fresh-baked chocolate chip cookies. God help me.
>>76379508>>76379527Hang in there bros. After a couple of shitty years you will unlock the “idgaf old man” mode and you will find joy more then ever.
>>76379751People where I live say the exact same thing, except about plain white rice
You learn to adapt
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Haven't been really dieting the past couple weeks, did a few carb loading weekends because I felt like I was on low carb for too long, I thought I'd get fatter but it feels like my weight is on maintenance right now, might throw a quick 2-3 week PSMF cut with 1 fast on Sunday to see if I can shed this last bit of fat
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Broke through a plateau earlier than expected and reached a new minimum today. I am now lighter than 3% of the users of my fitness tracker app (started lighter than 1%, got to 2% not too long ago). WAGMI bros.
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Mizeria
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1800cal reached. Pray for me that I don't snack tonight lads.
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>>76379508No unless you're a dumbass. It first starts with building the discipline to bring yourself back from the bad habits you developed. now that your body is cured and you've created a healing movement your mind can function better and you can become more ambitious in life.
>>76379800That a rice cake tastes absolutely nothing like bread. It's not even close.
>>76379514The most likely cause of a plateau is water weight or failing to count accurately how many calories you are consuming and expending.
>>76380261Holding a plateau for a week then suddenly dropping 1.5lbs in a day is definitely water weight shenanigans right?
>>76380276Yes, that seems likely. Your weight can vary by several kilograms every day from water weight alone, while for most of us it takes at least a week to lose a kilogram of fat and muscle.
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What percentage bodyfat do I need to be to have a six pack while sitting down? I look lean with visible abs while standing up but when i sit down my abs get covered by fat and love handles show. It looks gross
>>76380309You also have to actually have abs in the first place.
Learned this the hard way when I lost a shitton of weight, I just kept waiting to see abs of any kind to stop my insane cut (despite ribs showing like crazy).
Turns out I had legit no core after decades of neglecting to exercise, ever.
So yeah abs are 95% diet and 5% exercise but don’t forget to do that 5% kek.
btw yes anons I am happy now, it does get easier.
for now just thug it out, though.
Y’all got this.
My grelin (hunger hormone) is acting up :( I normally eat after work, but I’m trying to limit my meals and have restricted windows of time when I can eat. It’s hell. I’ve overdone it for so long my body absolutely hates this. It’s throwing the biggest tantrum.
I know I just need to get through this and retrain my grelin and it’ll get better, but right now it’s so hard.
I’m thinking about getting into micro-needling to avoid stretch marks while on this journey.
>>76379486I watch medical videos (generally dramatized medical studies) of people who didn’t take care of their heath and died. Suddenly I’m not hungry. Best YouTube doctors to listen to is: Chubbyemu. Outside of that I’d try podcasts.
>>76380376> You have to actually workout a muscle to make it pop due to the pump.No shit, just do your core exercises its half the battle, the other part is between the kitchen and the fridge.
>>76379514Because of weird fluctuations inside your body, mostly water weight. My longest plateau lasted for almost 2 months. And I eat the same shit every week, so no it's not me fucking up calorie counting.
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Good morning, frens. Stay Strong
>>76380089If you snack I fuck your mom. No snacks.
>>76379514Your bodies literally built for fat retention. It’s not like gas in the car it will always be really stingy and a tightwad about letting that shit go. https://youtube.com/watch?v=vSSkDos2hzo
I've only lost like 1 pound since June 1st I eat 1500 calories a day and do 25k-30k steps a day.
I had 1 day where I ate 2000 calories outbwith family, I should have most like 4 pounds.
Am I likely just retaining water?
5'10 and 167 pounds
I use a food scale and everything, so I know I am not overeating.
3 days since my fattycontest check in and already down 1.6 lbs. Lets go
I dont know what i weighed as a kid. The earliest known weight I have was freshman year of college at 220lbs and I just passed that mark today. Entering new territory
>>76380478Post food scale with timestamp. Oh wait you lied lol
Just like lying about knowing how many calories were in the restaurant food.
>>76380395Im curious how this goes. Already starting to get loose skin and I've got 50 lbs to go
>>76380478what is your BMR? it seems that you are counting mostly on exercise to get a calorie deficit, and that can be very inaccurate.
>>76380478Youre either lying or youre not capable of counting food properly
>>76380513Here you go, my handwriting is ass.
>>763805191699 according online calls.
I've lose 100 pounds since the start of December but all of a sudden shit is slow as fuck.
>>76380523Well, I lost 100 pounds since December, I've been really good at counting my calories and exercising.
>>76380502That's a good feeling fat bro, keep it up
>>76380532eat less, rely mostly on diet, don't count exercise in your deficit calculation
>>76380542Well, I've been floating the idea of 2 fast days where I only eat 500 cals a week and 1500 the rest.
Looks like I start today.
>>76380532I have the same scale!
>>76380537The math isn't mathing. The sooner you come to terms with the the fact that youre not accurately counting food the sooner you will start losing again.
Are you counting all of your snacks? Cooking oil? Are you making sure to log and weigh raw food as opposed to cooked meat? Are you allowing yourself to eat the calories you burned during exercise?
>>76380557there is a 20% margin of error on food nutrition labels alone, then the error from the scale, then the error from the BMR calculation, etc. it's impossible to maintain a 200 kcal deficit accurately counting calories only, there is too much error in literally every measure.
>>76380557>SnacksAlways count em, and it's usually just a danin fit Greek yogurt or 25 calorie popsicle, yes I count them
>OilDon't use it, use non stick pans/air fryer. Only time I get fried food is when I eat out and those places all have nutrition charts.
I don't go above 1500 calories usually, I did once this month where I ate 2000.
Also I dont use mist sauces except mustard or a tablespoon of ketchup if I make a 93 lean burger.
>>76379825I’m preparing hard for that day just in case it does come. Saving tons of money plus eliminating all fat above 12%.
>>76380542>don't count exercise in your deficit calculationNTA but I have to do this. Exercise has basically a 0 effect on weight loss for me. Body being energy efficient I’m sure was a blessing hundreds of fucking years ago, but right now it’s a curse.
>>7638057025k-30k steps should still have me losing more.
I'm hoping its just water retention.
>>76380572Well, good luck to you. You may not be able to be honest with yourself but the scale is certainly going to be honest with you
>>76380516I have 90lb to go and I have a big fear of that. I’m thinking about combining micro-needling with deep tissue messages and keeping up with using those foam rolls.
I am 20% bodyfat and losing fat is getting really hard. I'm thinking it's time to bulk at least until I have a bit more muscle because my lifts are going backwards
>>76380478Whenever I stall like this I only consume 1 protein smoothie a day for the next a few days, until the number starts going down again. Two scoops of protein powder, in whole milk (300g) and yogurt (300g), added ice/water for volume, blend it until smooth, comes out to like 700 calories most of which are protein. I continue to lift/exercise as normal.
98g protein
36g carbs
18g fat
702 kcal
It has never failed to fix the plateau and resume weightloss, usually in 2 or 3 days or less.
Is it normal I didn’t shit in 3 days?
is there some point of diminishing returns when it comes to calorie deficit?
do you cut at twice the rate with 1000 kcal deficit compared to 500 kcal deficit?
>>76380606if you double the deficit you will double the weight loss, there is no question about that. but if you eat too little your metabolic rate may decrease, you will feel fatigued and become less active, and that can cause you to expend fewer calories than you think. BMR and TDEE are just an estimation.
I hear people complain about them but I sampled a basic whey protein smoothie from a friend and I genuinely really liked the taste
I guess I'd get sick of them pretty fast if I drank them every day or replaced all my meals with them, but I've been skipping breakfast and eating only a 200kcal/20g protein bar for lunch every day for like 6 months now, and I'm not sick of them yet. I'm pretty sure smoothies would be cheaper and better kcal:protein ratio but I'm worried it won't be as satiating as solid food
>>76380596If I lose strength I immediately eat more. It should be possible to cut without losing any strength. And it should be possible to make gains on a cut as well if you have good genetics and aren’t already super strong
how many calories in a fart I sniffed off my finger
>>76379751Eating grains is why Romans thought the Germans were literal giants when they encountered them. And the Chinese thought this of the mongols. And the English thought this of the Viking. Etc basically every grain eating society was inferior and got raped by the hunter gatherer Chad until technology and tactics and were able to overcome their physical inferiority and lack of manliness.
another 800 calories burned by going to the local park and playing with my balls for an hour.
>>76380450CICO sisters… not like this…
>>76380651i think i know where that is
>>76380764are you going to go makeout with the juggler?
>>76380651Is the the same juggler with the balls and rice? I thought you would look more twinkier
>>76380696Works on my machine
Thought I was stalled out at 228 (No scale movement for a week despite working out and being in a 1k deficit)
Hopped on the scale after morning shit and piss, 226.3
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>76380773>no trendline slopeOH NO NO NO
>>76380829To the weight loss machine.
Walk before or after lifting?
>>76380417Based hatmam how are you
>>76380848Ideally after, but if zero incline you're probably fine wither way.
>>76380436I'm in bed. No snacks.
Losing my shit here. I am taking a maintenance week, yesterday was +400 calories from my weight loss target. My weight is still going down. The scale says I am losing more muscle than fat. My body measurements got smaller for bicep, forearm and hips. I lowered my weights to do higher reps to work on my form. This increased the amount of weight I move per workout. The form changes have almost eliminated those new record animations in my app.
I fucking hate this. I don't know what else I can do.
>>76380221Ambitious for what though?
>careerI’ve already reached my peak. I can only get better at what I already do but I’ll probably have the same title forever.
>kidsI’m not passing on my autism.
>marriageToo autistic for that shit.
I think I’m just gonna keep taking increasingly elaborate vacations forever.
>>76380969what are your macros?
>>76381011daily averages with estimated variances
calories before maintenance - 1800 +10%/-20%
calories during maintenance - 2100 +10%/-? Only been a few days
protein 190g +20%/-5%
carbs 120g +/- 50%
fats 60g +/- 50%
Definitely depends on the day. I'll just eat a 2 pounds of carrots some days. I am losing weight (down 40lbs) and everything is probably as it should be. Just annoyed as nothing is indicating things are good.
>>76380969>The scale says I am losing more muscle than fatwhat scale? do you dexa scan yourself everyday? if no then ignore that scale
>>76381036This is normal with such a high variable diet
Your muscle volume on the scale is gonna depend on the amount of carbs and salt you eat
These bodyfat scales are really not useful to anyone except people on real keto (flatlined their muscle glycogen) or ultra high carb (maxed out their muscle glycogen)
Similar reason for the decrease bicep/forearms
>>76381040>>76381052yes, the scale is a liar. I do monitor the trend line and it has jumped in a negative ways these last two weeks. It normally shows muscle loss, but nearly this much. Mixed with the other monitoring it is hurting the ego. For all I know I'll end up with the Anatoly build. Not what I want, but genetics are a thing. I am not planning to change things and will stop my maintenance week when I stop losing weight for 4 days. Compared to last week I lost 6.9 lbs. I am well aware that is a bs number and mostly high fluctuation change.
tl;dr - Just bitching, nothing to do here unfortunately.
Fatfag here thats on 15 days of omad here,just want to make sure that chewing sugar free gums is not fucking me up because they help a lot with my appetite and general anxiety
>>76380889Hello, fren. Im doing well, hope you're doing good as well.
>>76381120>make sure that chewing sugar free gums is not fucking me upIt is, by keeping you addicted to overly sweet processed shit.
>>76381138I dont eat sweats or drink soda of any kind and unfortunately i fear that if cut it i will just go back to eating my nails when i get stressed instead
>>76380969Those scales never seemed accurate to me. I think its because the measurement greatly depends on hydration. Losing weight usually comes with a woosh, plus you also tend to weigh yourself first thing in the morning when you are most dehydrated.
For awhile I tried keeping my morning weight along with an afternoon muscle %. Then I just started ignoring the scale.
>>76381120you dependent. Crutches are fine if you are trying to fix a broken leg. Using crutches with two good legs will fuck your spine. Long term dependance on gums and such keep doors open like this
>>76381138If you stop chewing it and then fail because you needed sweets that is a bad thing. There is nothing physically damaging about sugar free gum outside of some dental issues. Artificial sugar is fine, come at be bros, I won't reply.
I would personally recommend keep chewing until you think they don't help "a lot"
What foods are extremely filling but lower calories. Looking for food I can use to get my hunger down. I stick coco (pure fiber) in my coffee I got keto bread. Its not great ingredient wise but it is fiber in my belly for low calories. Going to eat a whole avocado for lunch. What foods to people like for arresting appetite.
>>76381220Chicken breast
Potatos
Veg
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>>76381220>0 calories>somewhat fillingIt’s mathematically impossible to get more satiation per calorie than this.
>>76381282>785mg sodium per 100gyeah nah
>>76381220Egg whites. S-tier macros and satiety.
>>76381296If your losing weight you piss like a horse anyways.
>>76381299Oh thanks naon.
I love me some beans for satiety. I will eat small amounts (100 cal brown rice, 100 cal beans) and drink some cold water. Keeps me full for hours
>>76381321Ive been doing 2 eggs ground up with some giardiniera on keto bread for like a 10 am snack. Sometimes Ill do tuna salad for lunch also. I hate tuna but 2 scoops of giardiniera and its fine. Nukes the appetite also for hours.
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>>76381299Damn, imagine trying to eat surplus when all you've got is bone broth and mushrooms.
>>76381354I've been eating a shit tone of bone broth and it's actually very filling. I haven't even eaten past my calorie limit for the day when I usually am around double my calorie limit by now
>>76381299milk low fat is also super satiety, adding to my diet now
If i have crazy cravings i drink green tea with lemon
hope this helps bros
I feel like i'm eating loads but my CICO is less than it was, im eating 200g of meat x 2 a day with rice, eggs bacon whole grain toast in the morning but my calorie intake is 1800, i used to eat a single pizza (1600) and some lunch (sandwich, crisps, chocolate bar) and be way above that.
I'm eating for waay longer and waay more in the day. tf goin on
>>76381364I'll bite. Redpill me on bone broth. Do you make it yourself or buy premade, if so, which brand is best?
>>76381377I buy it myself. I get kettle & fire and add knox gelatin unflavored usually 2 packs for the whole carton.
I warm it up and make it like little bites throughout the day, add some electrolytes to it. I honestly feel like it just sits in stomach so I can't be hungry. I of course eat other foods that are healthy in conjunction.
>>76381377Nta but I make this regularly. I put bones in an instant pot with water and veg. Pressure cook for 15 minutes. Makes about 4 liters. It tastes better if you roast the bones but you dont need to.
Normies are shilling retatrutide on Tiktok like crazy.
Does this shit work ? It sounds too good to be true.
Is it normal to be constantly running hot and sweating like a pig (more than usual) when cutting?
Or is this some weird metabolic fuckery from a couple weeks of cardio and lifting?
>>76381377>which brand is best?According to https://www.consumerlab.com/news/best-bone-broths-collagen-protein-sodium/04-16-2025/
Pacific Organic Bone Broth Beef had the highest protein and collagen content. Kettle and Fire was the runner up, but costs more.
>>76381480>Is it normal to be constantly running hot and sweating like a pig (more than usual) when cutting?Are you in a hot place? I usually run colder when cutting
>>76381483broooooooteeeeeeein
gotta get that BROTEIN
>no change in belly/neck/face fat over the last month.
>Meanwhile all of a sudden my neck and shoulders are full of definition and are hard to the touch.
Fat loss is weird.
>>76381522I mean the back of my neck is hard, so I guess there is change in my neck.
But not the fat in the front area of it where it actually matters.
>>76381491no, not at all
I imagine this must be what DNP feels like
maybe I broke my thyroid with some meme supplement
>>76379508I'm 36. Making the best money of my life, most prestigious career, wife and kids. I consider suicide daily unless I'm going to win the Powerball. It can and will only get worse until every politician is assassinated and the next round regularly fear the same happening to them. Life is not worth it and nothing will change that.
>>76379519>i want to. i'm not sure why i stopped, i just started feeling depressed, then demotivated, and etc. etc. i feel like i had a good routine going and then poof! i'm at a loss againit happens to the best of us, man. the good news is that your previous strength should come back fairly quickly, 3 months really isn't that long of a layoff. I would recommend not overthinking it, just start going again. I know regular exercise is great for my mood and energy level. you will make it.
>had to throw away another tshirt that became way too big
>can't go shopping with mom anymore at the age of 29
I guess I will have to learn how to order clothes online.
>>76381670I'm buying all my shit at the thriftstore
Not gonna buy new clothes when I plan to drop them anyways later down the line
>>76379508I had that realization as a little child and learned how to endure this lukewarm hell early on.
>>76381679>>76381618>>76379508lmfao what the fuck is wrong with you people
>4lbs away from being under 200
We're all going to make it.
i caved today
ate a whole small pack of sour gummies
and a chocolate ice
>>76381418Online peptide shops are a gamble. Better just buy official Zepbound/WeGovy.
>>76381384>>76381483>>76381389Thanks anons, I'm going to give this a try
>>76380764>>76380651you should meet up and kiss
>>76380772>Is the the same juggler with the balls and rice?you must be thinking of somebody else there, but I've previously posted about going on long hikes through the woods while juggling.
>>76380555This scale sucks for big plates.
>>76381708yahh i think so too.
hey you cat poster. do you want to kiss?
I have a question for bros who weigh themselves every day. My weight stays more or less the same for 4–5 days then suddenly drops by 500–600 grams. Is it the same for you or do you experience a more linear decrease?
>>76381738If it isn't perfectly linear you're doing it all wrong of course.
>>76381618Im 36 also, only thing that sucks in my life is career wise, so ill trade ya that part since you dont want it, would pretty much make my life perfect, just need to lose the last bit of weight and im happy
>>76381720>you must be thinking of somebody else there, but I've previously posted about going on long hikes through the woods while juggling.no yes you are the twinky juggler.
that's you?
>>76380651are you a neet?
>>76381738My daily graph jumps up and down all of the time. It's the water weight plus the weight of the food in my stomach that throws it off.
>>76381738it's bumpy for everybody. get some app that shows you the overall trend and don't focus on the individual points.
>>76381670As my weight transitions i decided to go with all costco clothes until I reach my goal. Bought a pair of Levi's that were 8" smaller than the pair I just threw out. They cost 1/3 the price of big and tall pants. Feelsgoodman.
I swear the weight loss is leaving me with body dysmprphia. Still wearing 2xl everything. Tried on a jacket that was a large and had no trouble zipping it up. I dont think I will ever see myself as non huge
>>76381738Pretty much the same. I can even add on 100-200 grams and hold it for a couple days before suddenly dropping 700-800.
>>76381738When my deficit was smaller, my experience matched yours. I have increased my deficit and my weight loss still comes in chunks, it just comes 2 or 3x per week instead of 1x
>>76381772>yes you are I get what you meant by the rice now. Yes, I dimly remember giving someone on here the advice to fill tennis balls with rice to make juggling balls.
>the twinky jugglerI'm not much of a twink at all
>are you a neetno
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yud has made me believe some people are just doomed to be fat by their genes
>>76381860Too many words. CICO always works
>>76380619I mean continue your current trajectory for a bit with the bars then try switching over to protein smoothies for 4 weeks. See if it works for you and if it doesn’t you can switch back.
>>76381860the retard who says we are all going to die unless we start bombing datacenters in foreign countries? why would you listen to such an obvious dimwit.
>>76381896>we are all going to die unless we start bombing datacenters in foreign countriesi mean is he wrong though...........
>>76381695Bro I don't have 1000 Dollar for a weekly dose
>>76381900In that case take the gamble although you don't know what kind of China trash chemicals you will be exposed to. And desu I still believe that tirzepatide is king because there is less muscle loss on it than on reta or sema.
>>76381150NTA, but I think it’s fine. It definitely has its issues, but a step above from where you were and probably not as unhealthy as the nicotine patches I’m using to get over the wall you hit with cravings.
>>76379419 (OP) OP literally has a whole section talking in their “Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/ “ about needing a combination of a diet needing a level of enjoyment for you to not abandon it. I wouldn’t cut out all enjoyment my thing is a small amount of chocolate each day and as long as you calculate it/work on proportions and still have the deficit you’ll be good.
>>76381282I loved pickled anything. I’m full of spite and vinegar.
>>76381296Humans historically have been on pretty salt-heavy diets. If you don’t have any health issues or diabetic I’d say go for it. Salt is not like cancer causing sugar.
>>76382010Humans have historically also never counted calories. Dieting is unnatural and therefore bad.
>>76382023For 99% of human history they also didn't have access to Mcslop an 1000000 calories for a buck. Retard.
>>76381329Beans are food from the gods https://youtube.com/watch?v=g5PfK0VISHM
>>76382029So then don't eat slop
>humans have historically been on salt-heavy diets
Yeah sure, maybe about 10,000 years out of their 100s of thousands of years, and thats their modern form
>>76382035Beans are for beaners
>summer is almost over
time to start cutting again
>>76381370I basically live off skin/2% milk. It’s basically water at that point when you take out all the fat/stuff that makes it milk, but it’s so so good.
>>76382044if you aren't already cutting for summer '27 then it is unironically over for you
>>76381860Only if you have some major health issues and then I’d work something out with your doc. Otherwise eating at a deficit is king. You’ll definitely experience some mood swings and fluctuations at first as your body adjust to a new routine, but it’s just a jump to get over like changing up your circadian rhythm to when you wake up/fall asleep.
Thoughts on (starting) creatine during weight loss? How much water weight can I expect to put on in the first few weeks?
I'm currently 20lbs down over the last 4 weeks, and the constant downwards trend on the scale is a big motivator... having this suddenly stop or reverse because of the water accumulation from creatine would suck, even when I know it's normal and to expect it
>>76382067>Thoughts on (starting) creatine during weight loss? How much water weight can I expect to put on in the first few weeks?Monohydrate: 200lbs
HCL: 5lbs
Fuck monohydrate
take the soured milk pill
Unironically just eat less food
>>76382323That requires you to actually do something that takes willpower,
much nicer to just make up schizoid theories on a super sekrit way to lose weight that (((the elites))) are keeping from you, which allows you to feel superior to the sheeple for being in the know.
>>76382067I did this. I was losing about 0.5lbs/week and training hard. Creatine made me gain about two pounds over two weeks, and then I started losing weight again. It helped me add volume significantly; I can see it in my training logs. Subjectively, I think my bar speed was faster. My understanding is that this is pretty typical.
Oh, I did not do a loading phase — ChatGPT said it was unnecessary.
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>>76382067If you are overweight then the water weight gain from creatine isn’t going to be significant. Put simply, what you are trying to lose isn’t retained by creatine
My girlfriend has gotten fat and refuses to change her diet. She regularly drinks sugary lattes, fast food, fried everything. When I brought it up she got offended and said it was concerning that I see weight as an issue. She then said that she's a grown woman, she can eat how she wants and I can eat how I want. We're an at impasse. Besides future health issues, her weight has made her less attractive and it's frankly disgusting to see her pig out on junk food. It also has me concerned if we had children. The thought of my children's health being thrown in the gutter, subjecting them to ridicule at school and making their life more diffult in every sense fills me with dread.
It pains me but this might actually be a deal breaker. I've heard so often that men who break up because their girlfriend gained weight are selfish assholes. I just can't imagine people taking my side if I explained why we didn't work out, it's so culturally ingrained in America for women to have a free pass when it comes to diet and weight but I can't shake the guilt of dooming my future children to an unhealthy life. Is there any hope of turning her around, some magic phrase that can snap her out of this fat psychosis?
What should I eat for dinner? I have these portioned out meals for work, but when I get home lately I've been eating crackers with cabanossi, but I think I need something more substantial
>>76382067>>76382379Enjoy your hair loss
>>76382398You've heard that from women
>>76382365Forgot to add, creatine and/or the increased training volume made me very hungry for the first two weeks. It took a lot of discipline to stay on diet. Important to consider.
>>76382398Find someone else
My parents get this really good bread and I feel like eating it just so I can get the craving out of my system but its impossible to count the calories correctly.
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I can't wait untill I can do pull ups without weight assistance bros.
I'll be doing pull ups anywhere I can just because I can.
It's still a while off, but I am looking forward to when the day comes.
Fellas I think I found a new meta.
Bodybuilder friend recommends me store protein shakes, give pic related a try. Tastes basically like choccy milk, I don't feel like ass after like quest concrete bars, 180 calories and 30 protein which is great ratio. This feels perfect for getting protein in.
I know it's got high oleic sunflower oil and guar gum and gay shit, but it's a bit healthier than the pure chemical stuff, and I figure I'll worry about that when I'm no longer a fat piece of shit. So very on board.
>>76382398>I've heard so often that men who break up because their girlfriend gained weight are selfish assholesFrom women. And to an extent it actually doesn't make sense to them because attraction works differently for them.
>>76382567>I know it's got high oleic sunflower oil and guar gum and gay shitAt that point just buy sixstar powder. Cheaper and still not as bad ingredients-wise as Influencer Juice.
>>76381418It’s pretty retard to just hop on the latest and greatest peptide that is the least tested and therefore safe. Also you have tolerance you don’t know if you need the strongest one. It sounds like favs wanting to run tren without ever trying test and dbol or whatever
>>76382598Low dose tren replacement therapy is actually healthier than having naturally low tren levels
>>76381852>I'm not much of a twink at allI wish you were...
>nohow the hell did you spend 800 calories in the park then? like how long did that take
>you are fighting millions of years of evolution telling you to eat as much as you can while food is available.
I want to thank the anon who said this in the last thread. It’s really helped me out things into perspective.
>>76382398I don’t have a gf and could care less about your problems. She’s right she’s a grown woman and will make her own choices. You’re a grown man and can make your love with it or leave her idgaf.
>>76382399I think you’re gonna need to start making portioned out meals for dinner too. Foods I’ve seen people talk about in this thread that are extremely filling but have lower calories.
- pickled stuff
- Chicken breast
- Potatoes
- Vegetables
- Eggs?
When I get home I just drink milk and go to bed. I used to sometimes drink bone broth, but I got real tired of it. Might try to make my own to see if it taste better than the fancy one I was buying.
>>76382447Ayo let’s goooooo
>>76382469I’d be so weak against real handmade bread. Did they get it from a bakery?
>>76382576I actually noticed that. The picture I found says 170, but I think they changed the recipe because mine says 180.
>>76382591I looked at the six star, it actually has sucralose which might be worse than the other ones. I think they did a study where they fed a rat a fuck ton of sucralose and he turned retarded or whatever, they said he started posting on rat porn on /g/ and stuff.
Prob doesn't make a difference either way, but the Cocko Juice is more convenient, don't need to bother with the bottle and the shaker or the frother and the cup and this and that, so I'll stick to the podcast cum onions shake for now.
>>76382591I looked at the six star, it actually has sucralose which might be worse than the other ones. I think they did a study where they fed a rat a fuck ton of sucralose and he turned retarded or whatever, they said he started posting on rat porn on /g/ and stuff.
Prob doesn't make a difference either way, but the Cocko Juice is more convenient, don't need to bother with the bottle and the shaker or the frother and the cup and this and that, so I'll stick to the podcast cum søylent shake for now.
>>76382732You didn't have to remake your post just to say søy. We knew what you meant.
>tfw didn't snack yesterday
Now I must not snack today
>>76380450So CICO is fake then. It’s just CI. You don’t get a say in CO.
>>76379419 (OP)>hear about greek yogurt, decide to try some>head to walmart buy some of that oikos yogurt>tastes like absolute dogshit, have to force myself to eat it>next time I'm there I find yoplait yogurt with 15g of protein>tastes infinitely betterNever falling for the greek yogurt grift again.
>>76382848ur not supposed to eat for taste, ur supposed to eat for function and macros
>>76382848>buy yogurt full of sugar>Whoa it tastes better
>>76382859>3 (three) grams of sugarOh no...
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>>76382913what r u not undrestanding
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4 lbs chicken thighs
1 can diced tomatoes
1 can green chilies
Cumin
Smoked Paprika
Adobo seasoning
Hot sauce/cayenne
Combine in slow cooker and cook, shred with fork.
Makes 15 servings of:
111kcal
17g protein
4g fat
2g carbs
>>76382951>111kcalsThat's literally one mouth full of food.
>>76382848I was put off by oikos greek yogurt for years. Specifically the lemon and vanilla flavors. Tried unflavored chobani and loved it.
>>76382959This is chicken not donuts sweaty.
>>76382959>*taps the sign*Stop doing math, nigger.
>>76382951how many oz per serving?
>>76382848Plain tastes terrible. Oikos has plenty of good flavors though. I have their lemon daily.
>Obsessed with seeing my bone structure
>Looking up thinspo
>1000 cal deficit
Weaponized ED to reach my goals
>>76382893>15 protonsWhat kind of Yoplait is that? Chobani Greek doesn’t even have that much despite having more calories.
>>76382951Sounds pretty damn good. Can anyone else vouch for this?
>>76382522Same, I got a pull-up bar to practice at home. I've been doing negatives since I don't have a band for weight assistance yet. But it's been good for other stuff I can do, like rows and dips
>>76382913He's a fag soliciting you for masturbation material, ignore him.
>>76382848Yeah.
I always drizzle some honey on it, tastes great that way
>>76382854I’m not some masochistic monk. I’m trying to have an enjoyable life here.
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Bros, I am so fucking hungry. I'm 13-14 weeks into dieting and have 4 weeks left before vacation. I already had a week off dieting 10 weeks in. All I can think about is food and am rapidly losing energy for cardio and studying. I can still lift at least.
>>76382951If you can at least give me gram measurements of the seasonings and maybe macros per 100g, I swear I will cook this.
today I ate:
breakfast
>a protein shake of the following:
>1 scoop protein powder
>1 cup almond milk
>7 ice cubes
lunch
>4 mandarin oranges
>1 cup of 15g protein vanilla yogurt
dinner
>3 scoops of slow cooker chili
>1 cup of shredded Mexican cheese
>1 flour tortilla
>30 corn tortilla chips
>5 sweet cherries
my bitch of a wife keeps asking me if I want an ice cream sandwich
>>76383121>my bitch of a wife keeps asking me if I want an ice cream sandwichyou should make protein ice cream and then sandwiches out of that
>>76383102VOLUME VOLUME VOLUME
>>76382748I wanted to say søylent which you wouldn't know, and the joke does not hit as good if you read it as "podcast cum onions shake", it loses the alliteration. It also depends in part upon the surprise of the densely vulgar and pungently autistic description appearing suddenly in an otherwise casual tone. So if you have to take an additional step to translate "onions" in your head to what I'm actually trying to say, by the time you see the full joke it's already too late.
>>76383062In terms of calories and protein, it's mainly going to be the chicken, which we already know is really good. It's like, what 100 kcal for a can of diced tomatoes? Almost none in spices.
I googled nutrition info for 4lbs chicken thigh and I'm getting somewhat more calories and more protein than he says, but it's still a good ratio. You can do the math with whatever kind of chicken you buy.
>>76383133>VOLUME VOLUME VOLUMEUsually I volume eat, but didn't want to go out and buy ingredients today to cook more. Even then though, it's definitely catching up to me. I'm right at the end of the diet and have a full year of bulking on the horizon, but I feel stretched pretty thin.
>>76382848You have to get the Fage (pronounced Fahggit) yogurt. That's the best greek one.
I ate that with ezekiel granola every day for 3 months and was in the best shape of my life. Filling as fuck, took me a long time to eat though.
>>76383158nta but that's still slightly more calories and less protein than the yogurt he actually enjoyed eating
>>76383102This is per 100g serving. About 1 small thigh.
Eat it by itself or with rice, eggs, and/or a dab of Greek yogurt. It’s a huge amount of food you’ll be able to experiment.
>>76383192Please spoon feed me the amount of seasonings and how long in an instantpot
>>76383196Shoot man, I ballpark it. I’d guess about 2tsp to tablespoon each? If I’m cooking for the senpai I add the cayenne and hot sauce later, prolly about a tsp of cayenne but you’ll have to titrate it to what you can tolerate.
I put it in the slow cooker for at least 8 hours. It’ll pull apart with a fork like barbecue when it’s done. Never used an instapot.
Navigating life is far more difficult than I ever imaged it would be. I'm in my 30s now and just getting my shit together.
>>76383147I meant for taste. And satiation.
>>76383121>protein shake while cuttingI don’t get you people.
>>76383076If it’s true it’s some of the worst news I’ve ever gotten. I mean I knew it was mostly diet but I also thought you could increase a 500 calorie deficit to 800 by doing some cardio and speed up your gains.
>>76383282Protein shake is mandatory part of my workouts
>>76379419 (OP)hello /fat/. how is everyone's summer going? are you guys feeling good about your progress?
>>76383249Similar situation. But I feel like it’s too late now. I don’t have any youthful wonder or optimism left. I have the career, the money, the clothes, the muscles, the teeth, the hair, and the skin, but I’ve lost the soul.
how to stop ur stomach from growling embarrassingly loud around ppl
>>76383291>I don’t have any youthful wonder or optimism left. Get on HGH and boxed wine. You’ll get it back
>>76383291unironically touch grass
I fucking LOVE honey
how do I eat more honey?
>>76383291Same, totally lost my spark. Except I'm also missing all those other things. Also my back hurts
>>76383282Why not? If you're having trouble getting enough protein while on a cut, protein shakes have a good ratio of calories to protein.
I need help figure out what to do
>work late night shifts
>my schedule is usually something like
>1500-1600 pm wake up
>work 17:00-1:00am
>get home and do weights and cardio
>shower and sleep around 4:00-5:00am
If i eat till around 2 hours before i sleep will this fuck up my weight loss?
>>76383296you could train yourself to do really loud farts, so whenever your stomach starts growling, you rip ass and people won't notice the growling
>>76383290Very good. I got in the best shape of my life and got to really enjoy the past month with my friends. I still have a month left of dieting and the festivities have kinda blunted my weight loss progress over the past month, but its been a great time.
>>76383334Nah, why would it? Cico rules
>>76383347idk i thought it might mess with my metabolism or something?
>>76383348>idk i thought it might mess with my metabolism or something?Not at all. Arguably its good to go to bed with a bit of protein in your belly.
>>76383334>If i eat till around 2 hours before i sleep will this fuck up my weight loss?I work evenings and that's what I do. Eat around 11pm as soon as I get home from work and usually go to sleep around 1-2am
If you're worried you can move your main meal around though. Like have it before work
In the name of God the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, I hope and pray for all of your collective success. Not just in your physical endeavors, but your emotional and spiritual struggles as well. You are all in my prayers.
>>76383400Fuck you faggot
>>76383400Thanks man.
Through the power of Christ anything is possible. You're going to make it.
>>76383403nta but what is ur problem, he’s just being nice
>>76383415He's probably gay or something, those kinds of ''people'' hate anything God related.
>>76383334I work night shifts and I usually eat diner right after I wake up and then eat something like an omelette after work.
I was thinking of buying some apple pectin to mix into a drink. I read that it thickens when exposed to a low pH, so if it's mixed in water and hits your stomach acid, then it would thicken in your stomach, right? I'd like to know how filling it is.
>>76383415nta but christtroons need to keep their bullshit to themselves
>>76383282Consuming protein helps you keep or even build some muscle while losing fat.
Hope that helps.
God dammit bros I ate the ice cream sandwhich and I'm pretty sure it put me on 2000 calories. What a fool I am
Down 7lbs give or take though so that's nice
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>>76383534>scale on carpetretard
>>76383285There are some people who lucked out at the genetics lottery who can, but the average person can’t because it was better for survival to be more energy efficient. Generally people’s bodies don’t shed fat with added exercise in the long term. Only for a short spurt before your body adjusts to the new lifestyle and turns it off.
>>76383526I know that feel, some absolute motherfucker brought cookies into work yesterday and I caved
Just remember one bad day isn't going to derail you, as long as we don't let it turn into a habit
>>76383526It happens man, just make sure it doesn't become a trend and you're golden. Don't use it as an excuse to go nuts and ruin everything, like I have so many times
>>76383534>weighing yourself on carpeti shiggy diggy
>>76382365>>76382379Thanks, sounds like it likely wouldn't cause a big spike of weight (re-)gain. I'll give it a shot and see how I feel. Even when I know it's only water retention in the muscle, simply seeing the scale go up instead of down significantly or over a long period of time would mess with my mind I think
>Went to the gym at 1 am
>ate an omelette as soon as I got back
>food from earlier in the day didn't sit well (I ordered a gyro platter)
>spent half an hour in the bathroom shitting and vomiting my guts out
>hungry again
I haven't had this happen before, should I just starve myself and stay in a deficit or risk going above my daily calories? Idk how much of the omelette I vomitted
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>go look at clothes online
>remember I'm fat
>close tab
>>76381296This is why the 100g standard is stupid beyond belief. Imagine eating 100g of pickles. Its a non argument, nobody does that.
>>76382023Why don't you give up your computer and phone, take off your clothes and live in a cave?
Because you have a double standard and no objective belief system besides arguing online
i count calories = i lose weight
i stop counting calories = i gain weight
i should probably start counting calories again...
>bmi 22
>STILL look fat
ok bro
>>76381375ditch the rice and bread. Bread is like a hundred calories a slice. It's not very filling either, for 100 calories you could have like a pound of veggies
>>76381480No, its not normal
>>76381483All this stuff is literally (loterally) just overpriced stock. Buy a quart of college inn or Swanson for way cheaper. Its the same exact thing.
is it even possible to squeeze 200g protein into 1200-1500 kcal without chickenmaxxing every day?
>>76381480i mean if you're fat you usual sweat a lot, doesnt have to do with anything about cutting
>>76383827dude it's just one day you're vomiting, do whatever you want and do tomorrow correctly, it's not like this'll happen that often.
>>76383980wheyproteinisolatemaxxing?
200g protein is 800 calories so more than half of your calories so its kind of rough
but wtf are you doing to eat 200g protein while having this low calories?
>>76381773You should be weighing yourself after your first bowel movement in the morning on an empty stomach.
>>76383980either protein powder or eating 6 lbs of skyr a day, the choice is yours
>>76383994Recomp hopefully, I'm cutting aggressively while lifting and don't want to lose muscle mass in the process.
>>76384016are you a gnome you are recomping with 1500 calories?
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>>763840241500 is I think a 1000 cal deficit, and I'm going by the 2g protein/kg guideline.
The focus is losing fat without going into muscle atrophy and/or Auschwitz mode.
>>76381372Herbal teas are really under rated.
>>763826201 hour walking (to and from the park) and 1 hour juggling.
I made decent money off of Covid when the retarded TV-watching vax cattle panic-sold all their stocks and crypto, so I only have to work 20 hours a week now.
So anyone actually used ozempic/wegovy/mounjaro etc here?
I've come to terms it would probably help me. The price in my country is reasonably acceptable(up to around $300 a month which I can swing no problem), the only barrier is doing the humiliation ritual to get a doctor to write you a prescription.
>>76384096I am not a doctor, don't take my medical advice.
Personally I'd rather fucking die as a fatass than yield and take those drugs.
>>76384096There's at least one resident schizoid, who will tell you that it solves all the worlds issues, just ask next thread and you'll summon him.
If you follow his advice without self reflection, that's on you though.
Do keep in mind that it only works as long as you take it, so be prepared to take it forever.
>the only barrier is doing the humiliation ritual to get a doctor to write you a prescriptionFor 300$ I'll go and pretend to be you. Jokes aside, does your country have telemedicine? A bit annoying to set up, but that should make it easier to not have to go to your family doctor for embarrassing prescriptions. Teledocs also don't give a fuck and prescribe whatever you want, they are just there for the paycheck and don't hide it. If that's a good thing is another topic entirely, probably not, but it would solve your issue.
>>76384052carnivore diet
eggs + lean ground beef
I hope you enjoy tuna
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>>76383300a bear made this post
>>76384108>tunai hate fish so much
>>76384096There is nothing wrong with GLP-1s. Most people who stop taking them regain the weight, but that's the same for every weight loss method. You need to be prepared to make life-long changes to your lifestyle if you want to avoid regaining the weight. If visiting the doctor is a significant barrier for you, China has a booming industry selling these meds at reasonable prices for "research" purposes.. but that's up to you if you want to take the risk.
>>76383958Yes, you should be counting calories again. Get the fuck on top of it. You’re gonna be paying for it now in some craving pains or later in life with your health, but either way you’ll be paying for it.
>Lunch: Fried chicken fillet (250kcal), protein smoothie (100kcal), chocolate bar (150 kcal)
>Dinner: chicken and broccoli and rice (700 kcal)
>total: 1200 kcal
Not bad, slipped up a bit with the chocolate but managed to hit my calorie target by the end of the day
>>76384230I just hate life has to be this way. If I let the foot off the gas for just a week things start slipping hard.
Imagine that, having to constantly monitor your diet for the rest of your life, while some people just live life normally and dont think about it. But I guess I don't have gambling problems or drinking problems.
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I finally got three days in and over the wall I normally run into with cravings. Cheating every day doesn’t feel like a big deal until you see the days next to each other starting to add up.
I’m hoping I can get a streak going with my diet, and this board will help me visualize it so I’m less inclined to cheat because I don’t want to lose my streak.
Ideally I need to lose 90lb, but I’ll be happy with 40lb.
>>76384262wait what does the smileys mean, cheat or didnt cheat?
>>76384243Over time you will get better at estimating the calories that you are eating without having to look it up, like everything else. You can try to guess the calories in your head before adding it to the app to train yourself.
>sprained a toe
>can't walk properly
>no more cardio for a while
>need to cut even more
This sucks
>>76384272Smile is for doing a good job and not cheating myself (with the exception of a few extra calories on Wednesday allotment.) Sad face is for days I fucked up.
>>76384262>>76384349damn, you've been fucking up a lot
>>76384385My whole life, yeah.
>>76384262Lol I do this too but I use check marks and Xs because I’m a heterosexual
>>76384096I've been on tirz for around 4 months. I lost over 100lbs before being on it, but my weight loss was slowing and it doesnt cost me a penny so I figured I'd try it.
My weight loss has accelerated from 1lb/wk to 2.5lb/wk. Its also completely stopped any cravings to binge food or alcohol.
>>76384262>can't even be good for 1 week>already has cheat days booked inLmao peak ngmi