Are vegans right?

you never liked plants you like modern agriculture

>>76383420 (OP)
such a pathetic tough guy trying to act all hip and cool when they are all skin and bones lmao. I know for a fact I personally NEED meat to survive or I get physically ill real fast and lose weight. Well, either way, I eat both meat and veggies in a plenty balanced manner though I eat more fat sources than meat protein, just one meat based protein meal a day is enough to not turn out like mr. skellington in the picture.

>>76383420 (OP)
Looks like he needs some meat

Vegans have never been right about anything ever.

>>76383420 (OP)
>eats unseasoned medium rare steak
>it's fucking delicious
also of course it's a black guy making it all about seasoning

>>76383420 (OP)
I thought wypipo don't season they meat

>steak
>bit of salt
>delicious
proven wrong just as easily as that

i mean what ca"n you expect from niggers who believe putting "momma janine 20 spices + soap" is "seasoning"

>>76383420 (OP)
I have a 1yo and a 3yo daughter, and when I give them unseasoned (also no salt) raw steak of beef liver, the absolutely fucking devour it and do not even think about any of the other food that is lying on the table.

I'm not actually a crazy raw meat only carnivore hehe person by the way. I just sometimes give them some raw steak or liver.

>>76383981
>giving raw meat to a 1 year old

dude what the fuck, they can die from literally anything at that age

>>76384149
You're on an anime website on a board where people commonly say that spinach is toxic.
What do you expect?

>>76384149
Explain why Raw liver from a trusted source isnt THE best thing to give a 1 year old

>>76384164
Spinach is toxix, dont eat it, its filled with anti nutrients

>>76383954
Still mad over the seasoning jokes snowflake?

>>76383420 (OP)
I could break him in half with my fingers.

>>76383420 (OP)
>>76383540
>>76383954
ever since I started including meat in every meal meat tastes bad to me no matter how I prepare it

>>76384199
The problem is your trust.

I hope all niggers die.

>>76384199
>Uncooked meat to a 1 year old

Kids bodies suck when it comes to dealing with poisons and infections. Its why they can die from food borne contaminants like e coli on shit-contaminated lettuces, salmonella chicken, unpasteurized milk, and bites from various creatures.

Many adult illnesses in children have unwanted complications desu.

>ethnicity X has never had access to [thing]
>gets introduced to [thing]
>becomes obsessed with [thing]

spices for niggers and alcohol for paleoamericans

>>76383420 (OP)

As skinny as dude is, I bet he gets more bitches than the fat powerlifters on here.

>>76384199
Vitamin A poisoning dude.
Yah could be seriously fucking him up by them liver.
Stick to just steaks

>>76383444
I forage wild veggies. I fear some of our best cooking flavours have been lost to big agri.

>>76386550
There isn't a single case of Vitamin A poisoning from raw beef liver.

>>76386564
Right off the vine squash is lit

>>76383420 (OP)
Of course a nigger would say that.

>>76384302
>Not realizing that you are the joke

>>76386612
Squash oven baked with mint, garlic mustard, and burdock is the shit, adds a bit of bitterness to a fairly sweet veggie.

>>76386564
>I forage wild veggies
like what? nearly all vegetables that are eaten today have been cultivated

>>76383459
>I know for a fact I personally NEED meat
you don't PERSONALLY need meat to survive, we all do

>>76384477
>Kids bodies suck when it comes to dealing with poisons and infections
why would there be poisons in raw meat from a trusted source? do you not know what poisons are?
>>76384477
>Its why they can die from food borne contaminants like e coli
there's e coli in our intestines, why would it be dangerous?
>on shit-contaminated lettuces
kids won't eat (shit-contaminated) lettuces unless you force them to because you hate them
>salmonella chicken
there's salmonella in our intestines, why would it be dangerous?
>unpasteurized milk
you mean the same kind of milk that everyone drank for thousands of years without any problems?
pasteurization has barely been around for 100 years, do you think people drank milk and died all the time before that?
raw milk only became a problem when urbanization happened because people brought livestock with them to the city where the animals couldn't graze, so they were fed waste products from industries and other kinds of slop instead which, unsurprisingly, made the animals sick and consequently made their milk poisonous
stop being such a gullible retard and stop buying food from goymart and thinking the aids riddled meat and dairy from there is the same as meat from a normal farm
>>76386550
>Vitamin A poisoning dude.
the only confirmed cases of Hypervitaminosis A are from people eating PILLS

>>76386733
you’re insane, you should lose custody of your children before they die or become disabled by illness

>>76386819
I accept your concession

>>76386645
I'll have a go. Cheers

>>76386819
All the diseases mentioned are factory borne. Having a self sustaining farm with pasture to move back and forth is amazing. Plant the shit out of chicory, rye, all kinds of herbs, grasses and flowers. Have pigs, cows and or horses go through first. Then goats n chiggins to revitalize the soil and throw down some serious nitrogen for the soil and bacteria to use. Self sustenance is becoming illegal due to FDA standards, which ironically kill thousands of people a year if not more. God damn lettuce has killed more people than eating your own raw milk you dumb fucking soft handed bitch. Don't know a god damn thing about piss.

>>76386819
You are a bitch ass bootlocker and I pray you never have children. May they all die in the womb to save the world from the continuation of your retardation and cowardice.

>>76386659
Anything that isn't toxic really, each leafy veg or sprout has a different taste and bitterness that offers something to any pot of stew.
One of my favourite challenges was birch polypore - I had to stew it for 2 or 3 days to get it less woody and I was doing it in baking soda to mitigate the excessively bitter flavour. It came out pretty good in the end, pairing really well with venison.

>>76383420 (OP)
Bullshit. Plain meat vs plain veggies, I'm choosing plain meat, every time. Except maybe for carrots, I can fuck up carrots more than bugs bunny.

>>76383420 (OP)
I just like salt?

>>76383420 (OP)
And vegetables cooked in the most generous taste worse? What is your point you dyel?

>>76386827
>I accept your concession
None given, schizo. Take your meds and kill yourself.

>>76383420 (OP)
If you do the opposite of everything vegans say you will be quite healthy. They really are wrong about everything and it isn't an exaggeration.

The reason is that veganism is really symptom of something much deeper, a biological inferiority complex that manifests as left-wing beliefs, and a compulsion to reject natural hierarchies. The food chain is perhaps the ultimate natural hierarchy, with creatures higher on the chain able to extract more concentrated nutrition and thus having different feeding habits. Vegans in their rejection of the food chain seem to identify as creatures lower on it, like rabbits or squirrels. What they don't understand is that you can't reject nature, but nature can reject you if you choose to eat this way. Nature rejects you by making you sick, weak, and infertile.

K>>76386733
Mortality rate for children before 1900 was insanely high, and you want to tale us back to that

>>76384874
Astute observation anon

>>76383517
Unironically has anyone got an example of hte natty limit on a vegan diet? Genuinely curious what the max these goys can achieve.

>>76383954
only herbivores can taste salt and if humans were carnivores you would eat it raw with the bones sticking out and no salt

>>76387884
High childhood mortality reduces mutational load in a population.

>>76387853
187cm 95kg 13-15% bodyfat vegan here. i could hunt you, kill you with my bare hands and chew on your famished meat eating retarded ass. But i won't. Because i have a well nourished healthy brain and i can think above the esentialist primitive categories of "strong eat weak". I think in a moral level.
Now get your ass up and do at least 10k steps before it's too late.

>>76384164
Lesricides are toxic, if you had to eat 1 salad a day are you choosing home grown or the one with pesticide?

>>76383420 (OP)
yes, i love eating salt and pepper on its own

>>76388454
You are fat and shorter than me. Shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself you infertile moron.

It's like being threatened by a squirrel. You don't get to larp as a lower species and pretend to be some sort of tough guy. Eat your lentils and rice you fucking slave.

>>76388433
and if we were herbivores we'd be eating grass outta the ground, yet you add dressing to your salads and cook your veggies, fucking retard

>>76388516
herbivores includes frugivores not just ruminants dummy. also literally herbs do taste naturally good to us, you use herbs to spice meat and that's why you think meat tastes good

>>76388531
please go ahead on a full 100% fruits diet and let us know how it goes

>>76388500
if you're taller than me and weight less than me stop eating like a bitch and hit the gym. Full body 3x week is a good routine for beginners. Vegan or non vegan i can bicep curl you.Thinking you're superior for eating meat is like thinking that you'll instantly be tough for wearing a black leather jacket and driving a noisy motorbike.

>>76383420 (OP)
THIS NIGGA BE SEASONIN HIS BERRIES

>>76387853
herbivorous=prey animal is a false equivalency. nobody messes with elephants and the like, you dumb cunt.

>Turn vegan
>A year later, I'm DYEL and 20kg fatter
How the fuck did it happen

>>76388808
CI > CO

>>76383420 (OP)
salt and onions sauce is all u need

>>76383954
you don’t like steak you like salt

>>76383420 (OP)
I can get why you would think that if you grew up in black household where they wash chicken with soap and drench it in copious amount of corn starch and cheeto dust seasoning to mask the odd flavor to pretend its good but meat can easily taste good on its own.

>>76383954
Honestly never understood this spice meme. Is this how backwater brown try to feel proud? Super spicy food has always been associated with backwater countries like India where not for copious amount of spice half the country would have died from cholera induced diarrhea already.

>>76383420 (OP)
Vegetables also taste like shit without seasoning. Also, your taste buds will adapt to whatever you eat regularly. So for instance, if you use a lot of salt every time you cook, unsalted food will start to taste bland.

>>76388808
If it doesn't work, stop doing it.

>>76388808
No protein and all carbs baby. A lot of junk food is vegan by nature.

>>76383420 (OP)
The least zesty vegan

>>76389410
the whole fucking world traded spices for the purpose of making their food tasty, it literally was pivotal in human development, it pushed human exploration. People have been flavouring food for thousands of years because it makes life better, why do these people want to regress to eating uncooked food off the floor, do they not shit in a toilet either because it's not natural?

>>76388433
>what's an omnivore?

>>76389410
Vegetables taste amazing with 0 salt

eat vegetable curry saar be strong like India

>>76389779
no they don't lol

>>76383420 (OP)
I often eat unseasoned raw beef
it's quite delicious

>>76387815
I already accepted your concession, but thanks again
>>76387884
>Mortality rate for children before 1900 was insanely high, and you want to tale us back to that
>I'm gonna tell you what you think
nothing I posted has anything to do with increasing child mortality rates, to the contrary what I posted would decrease mortality rates since mothers and babies would be healthier as a result

>>76387114
>Anything that isn't toxic really
>each leafy veg or sprout has a different taste and bitterness
>One of my favourite challenges was birch polypore - I had to stew it for 2 or 3 days to get it less woody and I was doing it in baking soda to mitigate the excessively bitter flavour.
There's something wrong in your head since you think eating bitter (toxic) plants is good for you because you cooked away some of the bitter (toxic) parts.
You do understand that animals that eat grass and leaves and flowers don't taste the bitterness? To them grass, leaves and flowers look and taste like a juicy steak does to us, that's why vegans keep imitating animal products instead of just eating the grass on their landlords lawn. It's a mental illness. I hope you're not a vegan and you're just doing this to experiment but you should trust your senses always, if something tastes BITTER, then it means it's toxic - no exceptions.

>>76389799
The sweat patch lol

>>76389779
Stop lying on the internet

>>76388433
>if humans were carnivores

>>76389393
this is factually wrong, spices were coveted and the move toward bland food was a fashion choice by rich people after spices reached the commoners in europe, similar to contemporary rich people beginning to purposely tan themselves after tanness was no longer read as a symbol of working outdoors

>>76390323
that's the best you can do? i can't even. lol

>>76389803
>>76390305
>what are cucumbers, tomatoes, onions, zucchini, potatoes, carrots, beets
And that's not even including all the delicious legumes
Meat tastes good without salt too but I get less flavor fatigue from plants than meat on a 0 salt diet

>>76383420 (OP)
>humans can digest meat no problem
>humans can't digest cellulose in plants
>vegans keep arguing we are meant to eat only plants using similar logic
I hate arguments like this. I can easily talk about how we aren't meant to drink water because we can die from it to follow down this same dumb logic

>>76383420 (OP)
I've done very low protein diets. Protein cravings are a real thing.
That can of bland tuna I ate during a hyperphagia episode is still the best thing I've ever eaten.

>>76383420 (OP)
So does he enjoy bland vegetables?

>>76383420 (OP)
>you only liked the food because of its flavor
What the fuck kind of logic is this? Is this idiot trying to tell me I actually like shitty tasting food?

>>76390383
reading comprehension is dead

>>76390387
>reading comprehension
Its a photo you dumb fuck, what is there to read other than whats stated?

>>76390468
not that guy but you almost got me. No one is this stupid.

>>76390362
>>what are cucumbers, tomatoes, zucchini
these are fruits btw, you can tell because they don't taste bitter when eaten raw

>>76388318
Clarence Kennedy but he roids

>>76389806
based, I've eaten raw meat for breakfast every day for 1,5 years
a lot of people think it's weird but then they'll order sushi, steak tartare or carpaccio for dinner and think nothing of it

>>76388976
which food can you enjoy without salt or sugar

>>76388976
delusional vegan

>>76388433
>only herbivores can taste salt
Lmao, what area you yapping about lil bro?

>>76383420 (OP)
Who up eatin they breakfast?

>>76383420 (OP)
No, black people have utterly retarded ideations aboutt food. So do vegans. Put the two together and oh brother, what a wreck.

>>76383520
This

>>76391321
It's bleak

>>76390347
Spices and herbs were valuable for storaging meat.
> the move toward bland food was a fashion choice by rich people after spices reached the commoners in europe
What a load of bullshit. Not using cheeto dust peppers doesnt mean no seasoning.
>inb4 another retarded nigger argument
Prison food is not wyte people food.

>>76388433
>only herbivores can taste salt
retard

>>76383420 (OP)
Wait I thought fruit made you fat with its high sugar content.

>>76390323
Wow pandas must love meat

>>76386623
>no u

>>76393550
You couldn't have picked a worse example. Pandas basically have a carnivore's digestive system, which makes them unsuited for their all bamboo diet and it's the reason why they are constantly at the brink of extinction. They have to spend all day eating, sleeping and shitting and they can't even live close to each other because otherwise they'd run out of food (and yet the females go in heat only a few days a year), they are evolutionary failures.

>>76393533
>doesn't know it's fat that makes you fat
many such cases

>>76393593
and yet they've survived for millions of years...

>>76384149
How many kids do you have?

>>76393672
Eating meat and the usual shit other bears do.
Pandas were forced to eat bamboo in the last centuries because of human expansionism.

>>76383420 (OP)
I'm pretty close to vegan. I think my vitamin D capsules are animal sourced. The real tricky part with a vegan diet once you get your supplements and other nutritional needs down is finding a good source of umami flavor. I was really missing the savoriness of meat and cheese. I like miso but it is way too salty. So, I've been using dehydrated tomatoes and will start using MSG soon. Dehydrated tomatoes are so fucking good. Here's what I've been eating everyday now for one of my meals:
1 cup buckwheat groats in pressure cooker
sauteed garlic in olive oil
1 tbsp onions sauce
lime juice
chipotle chili powder
chopped up cilantro and green onion
dehydrated tomato pieces
All mixed up in a big bowl.

Goddamn is it good. Speaking of onions sauce, a little bit of onions sauce, and some mustard if you're feeling it, are really good on steamed broccoli. Be sure to add some raw broccoli or broccoli sprouts or some other raw cruciferous thing to get the sulforaphane benefits.

>>76394789
another delusional vegan concerned with taste rather than nutrition, you won't last because a vegan diet is missing more than a dozen micronutrients
eating pills won't help, you'll go back to meat and dairy eventually, the question is if you're gonna keep lying about it like a lot of "plant based" eaters do or if you'll admit it's not a sustainable diet and tell others to avoid it

>>76393550
Pandas are literally fake animals created by the Chinese. They cannot exist in the wild.
>Despite its taxonomic classification as a carnivoran, the giant panda's diet is primarily herbivorous, with approximately 99% of its diet consisting of bamboo.
>However, the giant panda still has the digestive system of a carnivore, as well as carnivore-specific genes, and thus derives little energy and little protein from the consumption of bamboo.

>>76393767
zero since they started their raw meat diets

>>76394845
Gorillas are vegetarian though
I think same goes for chimps and orangutans. Basically all great apes with massive teeth

>>76388808
Too many oreos and pringles

>womp womp i'm a dyel
Excercise maybe?
Eat more almonds too.
Some eggs won't kill you anyway. Get them for easy protein. And protein powder as well
>But that's not 100% vegan!
What matters is to make the least impact as possible. Not to be a fucking barbarian on the environment. We love criticizing third worlders for being nasty, but if you saw the gargantuan piles of shit that first worlders produce, you'd be less full of shit

>>76394860
Gorillas also have a digestive system built for breaking down cellulose. You're comparing completely different animals.

>>76387853
>compulsion to reject natural hierarchies
Sounds based. Vegans really are remaking the hierarchy and dabbing on muh natural hierarchy slaves.

>>76383540
>Medium rare
Normie slop.

>>76394789
Your body is craving meat and cheese because you need them to be healthy. Stop starving yourself.
t. former vegan

>>76387853
There's a lot of vegan cope in response to this obviously correct post. Human beings are at the top of the food chain for a reason.

>>76387884
You realise there's ways to ensure hygiene outside of nuking your food with radio waves to remove every single bit of nutrition from it right
Like washing your hands before and after milking your cow and drinking the raw, still warm milk will be just as hygienic as drinking the pasteurised goyjuice from the local slopmart
Unless you literally think cow's milk is poisonous straight from the udder in which case you are a monumental retard

>>76388976
You don't like spinach you like to chew

>>76388531
herbs do not taste good to us
we ground them, dry them and use very minor amounts of it
my donkeys eat the entire fkn plant

>>76384149
Just wait till I tell you that both of my sons had raw cows milk before turning 6 months.

>>76383420 (OP)
no
i eat meat since baby
always favorite
no seasonings necessary
tho seasonings are good too

>>76396833
skill issue

>>76397671
literal child abuse. only food they should have at that age is the milk of their own mother.

>>76397930
Don't have kids.

>>76397930
6 mo the is when you're supposed to start feeding them other foods.