literally all you need in terms of cardio is an old road bike and some hills

bike manufacturers have memed 40 y/o into buying lycra and fancy carbon bikes so they can larp like they are part of the peleton
and the pro cyclists are like the pro runners - all skinny for max efficiency, but that doesnt mean you shouldnt train to do a 20min 5k, biking is the same

reality is climbing out of the saddle is kino, and the most fum cardio

>>76402531 (OP)
i ride an indoor bike at the gym so I can watch cooking shows in between looking at arses and pussy flap prints on the scantily clad women using the Arsemaster5000's™ conveniently placed in front of the bikes.

Just do triathlons to supplement your lifting and offseason sport

>>76402531 (OP)
A lot of Ironman cyclists are shredded as fuck because they're not going for max efficiency in one field

Cycling is a based /fit/ hobby

>>76402584
Or just do cycling because it's an enjoyable and beneficial practice within its own right

I recently got a fixed gear bike for riding around my neighborhood and on the trails it's good conditioning

>>76402565
have you ever coomed in your pants while doing this?

>>76402531 (OP)
I get why people enjoy cycling but I just like running and hiking more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One of my main gripes with cycling is having to share the road with cars, unless you are lucky enough to have very low-traffic roads nearby

>>76402531 (OP)
I agree, I've got an old $60 mountain bike from Walmart that I ride around my neighborhood for a half hour every morning. Fastest way to cut, every year. If I'm 39 and still getting abs, anybody can

>>76402531 (OP)
I got an e-bike, it feels like I can ride for hours.

>>76402531 (OP)
Fignon is my favorite cyclist, you should read his book if you haven't already.

>>76402531 (OP)
The real optimal strategy is to commute with a bicycle, that way you waste zero time on commute because it becomes your cardio time. I get 30 minutes of cycling in a day 5 days a week at least (10 each way plus i work a job that requires me to get places daily) and don't do it in my leisure time, leisure time is for swimming.
>but i get sweaty
You can go at a gvery relaxed pace to work, then up intensity when going back home.
>commute too long my workplace is in another dimension i am entirely dependent on a car to exist
You made poor life choices.

>>76402531 (OP)
Doing a "Swedish classic" this year, 1/4 of it is biking around Sweden's second largest lake.

>>76403300

Thanks for the recommendation; legend from another era...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nspNgL0_ius

>>76403853
That's really nice

>>76403853
>medelfart

>>76403853
hello from finland gayboi

>>76402531 (OP)
>old road bike
Doesn't have to be old af. You can get a solid, used, modern alu frame bike really cheap and it'll be a fantastic ride.
Got myself a cannondale caad from 2019 pr something a couple years ago, almost mint condition for like 500 bucks, rides like a dream.

>>76403853
based, Im doing it as well. I dont have any hills or snow here so training for skiing is going to be interesting

>>76404248
Good luck Anon!
We started with Vasaloppet, only two more months of running now until Lidingö.

>>76402531 (OP)
>kills your testicles and turns you infertile
great advice kike

>>76402531 (OP)
>bike manufacturers have memed
You dont need a bike at all for fitness. You can just run around. To me you're also been memed by gear peddlers (pun intended)

Any bike recommendations? I need something for just getting around, but also want to be able to go up the mountain and along the trails near me for fun. Maybe ride up there and chill with a book under a tree.

Was thinking a hybrid, since it would be better on roads than a mountain bike. Budget of around £700?

>finished my home workout with a nice pump
>got on my good 'ol 15kg rusty mountain bike that I bought from a thrift shop 20 years ago
>went out riding shirtless for some vitamin dee gains
>made fatties mad, made qts 'mire, humbled some """muscular""" (fatceps) bros, brutally mogged noodle-armed DYEL skellies in lycra, gay sunglasses and plastic helmets

Cycling is based, especially if you do HIIT and steep uphill sprints.

i bike a lot because im too afraid to drive. its the only cardio i do. i bike around 10 miles a day and the last half is biking up a massive hill at around 6 mph. it hasnt really made me fit and im emaciated

>>76407088
>it hasnt really made me fit
Biking will make you fit, even how you describe it

>>76402584
>triathlons
This. Do a half ironman, and see how your cardio skyrockets.

>>76405693
go for a gravel bike
buy a cheap 2nd hand decathlon rc120

>>76405476
Yeah but running fucking sucks though, cycling is actually fun.

>>76408197
this
I would rather bike 100km than run a single one.

I got a nice gravel bike. Two weekends ago, I went for a 44 mile ride, but must have run something over and popped my back tire 5 miles from home. Managed to ride it home though.

This past weekend, popped my front one 15 miles from home. Didn’t even run into something. Just a small pin sized hole on the side of my inner tube let out all the air. Had to sos call pops for a ride.

I can run for 4 hours and not once have I ever got a flat foot. Fuck this gear-dependent form of exercise. After my tri in August I’m back to 95% roons.

Hip flexors have seen some righteous gains this summer though.

I had my rear inner tube changed, but had my front set up tubeless. Am I retarded?

>>76402531 (OP)
I chose running cause it's cheaper
>already spent more on running shoes than I would have on a road bike in the last 5 months

>>76409180
You're supposed to bring tubes, patch kits and a pump for longer rides.

>>76409180
>he can't jog 15 miles home while carrying his bike
lol
also make sure your tubes are all the way inflated before every ride, sounds like you got a pinch flat

>>76409205
I didn’t think 40mi was especially long. The race is 25mi, do I need a patch kit or just eat a DNF if I get a flat? Recommend a kit to order/how to attach to bike?

>>76409243
Could but didn’t. Got home and ran a 47min 10k (no bike on shoulders). Tires were around 70psi out of a max of 87. Was thinking I’d go for 60psi next time.

>>76409263
Just the cheapest shit you can find, get a saddle bag. Anything over 20 miles in a single direction you should probably be prepared for. As for a race, depends if they have any support there or not, though more likely just end in a DNF. If you are using a gravel commuter on paved roads you probably need new tires 70psi is very low for a road tire.

>>76402531 (OP)
where i live (Italy) drivers have to actively resist the urge to maim you, so no thank you i will not use a bicycle
the saddest thing is that we used to be a proper bike manufacturer country

i just did 30 minutes of stationary bike at 20km/h, with 4 bouts where i did a minute at 35 km/h
the resistance level was 4 out of 8
the bike said i only consume 145Kc? is cycling that efficient??

>>76409370
Maybe you're the problem

>>76409382
yes cycling is the most efficient method of transport
and you are probably not fat, I burn 500 for 40mins lol, but outside

>>76403249
This
I will LITERALLY NEVER get on a fucking road with a car, on my bike. Never, in a million fucking years. Fuck roads, fuck cars, fuck commuters, fuck cyclists, fuck asphalt, fuck roads, fuck cars and fuck cyclists.
Yeah mountain biking is fun I suppose. Anything else fuck no.

>>76409382
I'm not sure. I just went cycling for 11km at an average speed of 25km/h and I burnt about 400 calories. One of our calculators may be off.

>>76403249
Each to their own; that's fine.
The issue of having to share the road with cars seems an issue with your city's infrastructure and not an issue in general for everyone.

>>76412037
it's a mentality problem
in my third world country (southern Europe) they would just hide my body in a ditch and when my body is found the comments (that have sons my age) under the news would cheer on the boomer that killed me (he gets away with 3 months of home prison)
my parents would then be ashamed of me being killed like a faggot that uses a bike instead of a car

>>76409180
>I can run for 4 hours and not once have I ever got a flat foot.
I demolished my big thumb a year ago preparing for a marathon. Needed a $1000 surgery because the toenail wasn't growing right (nail bed dried out and got lower, resulted in the whole nail ingrowing) and it's still not perfect. I'd take 100 popped tires over that.

>>76412159
> big thumb
big toe lol

>>76409180
I have to bring a huge pair of Channel Locks since I'm terrible at getting the tire off the normal way. It's just easier for me to grip it with the Channel Locks and pry it off. Thankfully I never did damage to the rim.

>>76409382
What was your heart rate? Does your bike have a power meter on it? The amount of calories burned has so many variables that you shouldn't even care what the amount of calories you burn are.

>>76402531 (OP)
I have a mountain bike I paid more than 5k for
I got memed and I'm not mad about it

>>76412447
around 120 bpm, the bike has heart rate monitors on the handles

>>76402531 (OP)
i live near perfect hills for it but there are too many psychos on the road. i'll stick to running.

i ride my road bike a decent amount every year, usually in the 2500 mile range. i dont do mountain biking and pretty much only ride for commuting/transportation purposes, never do races or group rides, just bike in my shorts and shirt, sneakers, usually wear a backpack or my rack bag. i can hold a somewhat decent speed, usually the 15-18 mph range, can get 21-22 mph on some sprints on flat ground. i ride up a pretty big hill every day but i havent noticed myself improving anything after years doing it

all the people talking about not riding because theyre afraid of cars, i pretty much exclusively ride on streets with cars and i guess ive been "lucky" in the sense that despite all this riding for almost 10 years ive never been hit. there have been close situations but ive avoided anything bad.

>>76412620
maybe you live in a first world country

>>76402531 (OP)
My favorite thing is smoking past the skinny-fat srs cyclists in lycra with my bulky muscles, gym clothes, and steel mtb from 2001 with off-brand road tires.

>>76412718
How long it take to get there? Weekly mileage?

>>76413265
My weekly mileage is typically 50-60 miles (daily weekday morning rides), but much more if I'm doing a big gravel ride on a weekend. I've been cycling for fitness for 6 years, mountain biking on and off my whole life. I ride pavement on my old steel 26" MTB, never ever owned a road bike and I don't care to. Lycra is for racers and LARPers. The best advice I can give you is to get a cadence sensor and try to keep your cadence consistent and moderately high, regardless of your gearing.

>>76412718
based

>>76412718
why do they wear the gay spandex lycra shit?

>>76413685
cyclists can get overheated quite quickly, these lycra suits are light/thin and let the wind through the fabric to cool them down

>>76413784
please don't sell me on that gay shit

>>76411859
The first time I ever rode on the road a car came blasting past me about 80kmh around a pretty tight corner and missed a head on collision with an oncoming car by inches. NEVER again, just trails for me.

>they don't night ride
Toppest of keks. You already spend sometimes thousands on your bikes for the latest Ultegra parts: invest a hundred dollars go getting outfitted with the best lights and go night riding. It's comfy. I rarely encounter a single vehicle except if I ride near town.

>>76413685
mostly it's
>bibs reduce friction thus preventing saddle sores
>skin tight clothing doesn't slow you down like a parachute

bump

every single cycling thread
>why do they wear the gay spandex shit
it's lightweight athletic wear, the shirts have pockets on the back to put your phone and wallet in so you don't need to bring a bag, and the pants have padding in them so you don't crush your balls, also prevents chaffing

as far as biking vs rooning is concerned, biking is way better than running when it's really hot out in the summer, running is much better when you're back down to temperate fall and spring weather, biking in the winter is fucked whereas you can still run even with snow on the ground
if you come in this thread and talk about using an exercise bike at the gym you're just a faggot

>>76417331
Reasonable take on biking vs running. However the lycra and other cycling clothing is overkill, and 99% of the overweight and slow cyclists I see don't need it. They're just trying to look like a 'cyclist'. Unless you're racing or doing a century or something, normal synthetic and form-fitting athletic wear does 100% of the same job. And padded pants only compensates for an ill-fitting seat or bike. If someone is properly fitted for their bike and has a seat that fits their ass, they don't need padding at all.

>>76417594
Nah even on short rides bike shorts and shirt is significantly more comfortable. Why are you afraid to show off your legs anon?

>>76412620
That's very slow anon. Most weekend warrior types on a road bike can easily average 18-20mph on a flat, 30mph in a sprint

>>76409370
It's the black blood probably

>>76417658
studies show that drivers aim for lycra-wearing cyclists and spare normal cyclists

>>76403853, here again.
I've been riding a ~1000$ bike for a couple of years now, including this 315km "race.

When I looked for a bike I went for the cheapest I could find with the Shimano 105 group set.

Is it worth starting to replace things on it, like the handlebar etc.?
Or should I save money and just buy a new bike?

>>76418132
This is a car driver problem, not a cyclist problem. Most drivers treat cyclists unfairly regardless of what the cyclists wear.

>>76403853
>medelfart

I'd rather not norwood and tank my bmr to sub 1,000 calories, thank you