>wake up in this stupid planet
>clean my stupid room
>read some stupid book
>eat two stupid bananas
>lift the stupid weights
>drink 2 cups of kefir
>catch some stupid sunlight
>hop in the stupid shower
>brush my stupid teeth
>eat 5 bombaclaat eggs
>take my stupid vitamins (C, D, E, K + Omega 3/6/9)
>clean my stupid kitchen until it's shining
>study for the stupid CompTIA Network+ exam all day because I need to get a stupid job in stupid DevOps
>not looking forward to having some stupid 9 to 5 (I've tried it before)
>in order to work for some stupid boss
>in order to earn stupid fucking FIAT toilet paper money
>in order to buy stupid consoomer slop

I took the discipline-pill. I am the sigma male. But at what cost? Everything is forced. Every single day. No motivation, just resentment. Just existential dread. And cottage cheese.
How do you niggers cope with this lifestyle? I'm doing everything society wants me to do, but I'm fucking miserable.
>inb4kys
>inb4have_sex

>>76458305 (OP)
Wish i never took the discipline pill. Should have stayed normie retard
Goals and success are retarded and they wont make you happy

>>76458305 (OP)
learn to find joy in the little things. try mindfulness

Welcome to the NFL rookie, the moment you try to look at life with a naked eye this is what happens. Try to daydream, imagine what you'd love to see yourself to become in the next life and ask yourself the question, ''do I deserve to be presented with the opportunity to do so''. Do you think some wrist-like-branches stupid wanky loser fuckwad deserves to find true love? To rule kingdoms or even planets? Put effort, hope and remember, this life is only the tutorial

>>76458305 (OP)
>Just existential dread. And cottage cheese.
Hahaha, fuck. I'm going to put that on a t-shirt.
>I'm doing everything society wants me to do
There's your problem, Anon. Don't cheat the man in the glass. What do YOU want to do?

>>76458305 (OP)
>I am the sigma male
Anon. you really aren't.

>>76458518
define sigma

>>76458305 (OP)
>>not looking forward to having some stupid 9 to 5 (I've tried it before)

Your zoomies are showing. Grow up, kid.

>>76458542
a psychopath

>mfw i’m eating cottage cheese right now

>>76458305 (OP)
What do you genuinely desire? Even if your dream isn't realistic or even remotely physically possible, what would you pour blood, sweat and tears for?

>>76459936
financial independence and never having to work for someone again. but that's what I'm going for. minimum wage isn't enough to pursue entrepreneurial ventures with, so I need a higher paying job to fund my business.

>>76459953
Disappointing answer. You could've wished for finding a soul mate or becoming an emperor or something, being able to fly and the first thing that came to mind is muh money? By your post I was under the delusion that you gave up on caring about those insignificant stuff

>>76459953
As someone who owns his own business, let me tell you that I sometimes miss getting a paycheck and not give a thought about work as soon as I clock out.

>>76459973
>insignificant stuff
your whole life revolves around it. you either make money or go homeless. you either go homeless or sell 2/3 of your awake time like some prostitute. nothing is more desirable than not having to sell 2/3 of your awake time, anon.
you can literally do everything you've ever dreamed of if you don't worry about price tags and if you're not slaving 2/3 of your awake time
I get it, "it's insignificant" is the way you cope. you DISREGARD the fact that you're a slave, and just accept things for what they are and focus on what you CAN do. that's fair. but I can't accept it. I don't like this planet, I don't want to be a slave forever, I don't want to pay taxes to a government that spends it on Israel, Transgender Studies and Big Pharma, and I will not take the copium. forever blackpilled here, and I wouldn't want it any other way.

>>76460006
I understand. it's not that glamorous and you probably work harder than the nine-to-fivers. but it still sounds better to me.

>>76459936
>What do you genuinely desire?
I’m not OP but this right here is the problem for me. I just don’t know. I’ve never known. I still feel like I’m trying to get to know myself sometimes. I have a hard time setting goals because I don’t know who I am or what I want.

>>76460030
>but it still sounds better to me.
It has its perks. But become a business owner and you'll devote all your time, or at least all your peace of mind, to work.

>>76460039
How old are you?

>>76458305 (OP)
I‘m gonna start drinking again just to beat this. When I was an alcoholic it was always just before a bender that I started feeling sick of everything. After a few days to where the silly little habits actually became an act of getting back on my feet even the dumbest neomodern bullshit was almost fun again.

>>76458305 (OP)
Very real. I can understand being disciplined but I just absolutely do not enjoy any part of training. Lifting with boring routines I don't like, cooking and forcefully eating food I don't like, my life revolves around making time for the gym. Fucking hate it but I hate how I look even more

>>76458305 (OP)
What you really need is a prayer, just a conversation within with whatever you may believe or not believe in, just do it and right after I dare you to call a loved one, mom, dad, grandma whatever. Don’t ask them how they are doing, they don’t give a fuck about that conversation, tell them how YOU are doing, they only give a fuck how their son is doing tell them you forgive them for whatever resentments you may hold and tell them you love them. Be honest and real.

Most of you faggots will dismiss this because you are cowards, deep down you know you would crumble under the weight of this conversation and start sobbing like babies, but one thing is for sure, if you do this, prayer and conversation with a loved one, you will be happier, it will change your life.

>>76460108
my parents put me in a psychiatric ward for being suicidal and now I'm forced to take anti-psychotics under the threat of institutionalization + injections. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. (total nonsense, I don't believe in (((psychiatry))))
my father beat my mother recently and is an alcoholic.
my mother had a troubled upbringing as well, which turned her into some strange psychopath.
not everyone has a nice family anon.

>>76460120
With a kid like you I'm surprised they didn't come out of it all worse. And it's also ironic how you are talking about not believing in ''psychiatry'' and yet you call yourself suicidal. Nobody with a modicum of a brain would call themselves that as the idea of being suicidal is a joke by itself

>>76458305 (OP)
>lived his life for the approval of others and not his own happiness
>surprised he isn't having a good time
Just do what brings you happiness. I'm not saying shirk all responsibilities and be a hedonist but do what you need to and then do what you want.

>>76460120
They don’t need to be nice. Forgive and live. It’s that easy, yes.

I remember I heard this advice myself and ended up calling my mom, we had an hour long conversation, before we barely talked, we both ended up in tears and it was one of the most fulfilling moments of closure I’ve had in a long time.

I did the same with my dad and he told me he is proud of me.

You don’t know what you don’t know.
Prayer, god, loved ones and family, in fucking repeat brah.

>>76460030
So let's say you don't have to work and have all the money you've ever wanted, then what?
Because from what you wrote, it being
>in order to earn stupid fucking FIAT toilet paper money
>in order to buy stupid consoomer slop
I was left thinking you want more from your existence than just be financially stable and not work under someone. Frankly you giving a shit about stuff like Israel, troons and big pharma makes you the slave, on top of being so adamant on making money.
>>76460039
Consider every variable, what your views on reality are, yourself, the people, the universe, life itself and think if you truly want your dream to revolve around catering to the masses.

>>76460055
>How old are you?
28
>>76460146
>think if you truly want your dream to revolve around catering to the masses.
I don’t care about catering to the masses, nor do I even really know what that means. I’m just trying to find a dream for myself.

>>76458305 (OP)
>I'm doing everything society wants me to do but I'm miserable
yeah, so are the rest of us, aside from a few schizos who thrive in this sort of environment, and, of course, the rich who don't play by the same rules. you cope by having some kind of vice and balance its consumption enough that you don't get absolutely fucked in the process of succumbing to it now and again.

>>76458305 (OP)
embrace that nothing matters

>>76460301
Sure faggot, you get that nothing matters but have you figured out that everything matters yet?

>>76458305 (OP)
>>study for the stupid CompTIA Network+ exam all day because I need to get a stupid job in stupid DevOps
oh look some retard who thinks everything is "stupid" is some gay faggot IT nerd whos job and life will serve to purpose to anyone. what a surprise.

>>76458305 (OP)
>wake up in this stupid planet

All because your ancient ancestors were bad at astral navigation.

>>76460108
>I dare you to call a loved one, mom, dad, grandma whatever. Don’t ask them how they are doing, they don’t give a fuck about that conversation, tell them how YOU are doing, they only give a fuck how their son is doing tell them you forgive them for whatever resentments you may hold and tell them you love them. Be honest and real. Most of you faggots will dismiss this because you are cowards, deep down you know you would crumble under the weight of this conversation and start sobbing like babies

not op but i dont need to call my parents because i still live with them in my 30s. and im a complete loser, almost as big as someone can be. and i barely speak to them, we barely have a relationship because the crushing weight of being a loser for my entire life sapped all will to live

and the past week or so has been especially bad, im pretty much on the verge of suicide, and even my parents notice how bad things are. they have been talking about me needing to go to a psychologist, how theyre going to put me in a psych ward like the op apparently has been, but the sad part is that my parents still seem to be confused as to why im so miserable. ive been like this since i was a teenager, i have no social experiences, no career, never did even the most basic things in life to grow up, spent most of my life in my room, and they still sit here saying "anon why are you always so angry" and "why do you act like the world is so bad" and things like that. all the years of life gone and they never bothered to try to help

yeah i have no idea how having a real converstion with my parents would go becuase ive never had one. yeah i would probably break down in tears while i relay to them that my life has been completely wasted and i know my life is ending in suicide. but i dont want to potentially make them very upset too. i would rather not talk to them and they just continue living ok then one day ill just call/email/leave them my suicide note and never see them again

>>76458305 (OP)
>>76459953
>seek no meaning in anything except money
>wtf why is my life oriented around earning money and consooming
I will not take any suggestions that life is empty and meaningless from people who are themselves empty and meaningless
I thank my lucky stars that I found meaning in drawing and painting before I could become an empty nihilist faggot

>>76459953
>>76460402
>>76459973
Exactly, it's so fucking pathetic. OP could have been talking about how useless the world is because he lacks social connections or purpose or whatever. Then in the end, it turns out that his "complaining" is just because he doesn't want to have a job, and on top of that, instead of getting a job that actually can connect you with society and help society be a better place, he just wants to get some gay faggot IT "devops" job. Totally expected behavior from some gay faggot IT nerd faggot

>>76460416
Worst thing is with how he wrote the post he really made us think he had something resembling a soul, talking about toilet paper money and consumer slop. Hylics truly deserve to be put down

>>76458305 (OP)
you should become a fat fuck instead. start eating 8000 calories per day. let yourself go, you are not enjoying the disciplined life anyhow.

>>76460452
Yeah, that's what I meant. The first 12 bullet points, expected it would be some sort of rant against how meaningless modern life feels, maybe he needs a purpose in life, to help people or animals or society or something. Then he finishes it by it actually just being a complaint about his gay faggot IT nerd degree, not wanting a real job, and wanting to be financially independent, that's his entire life goal. Pretty much what you'd expect from a soulless IT bugman though.

>wake up on this stupid planet alone like ive been my entire life
>eat food that i dotn care about
>go to a pathetic job to earn meager money i dont spend
>go exercise to be healthy for a life i dont want to continue
>go home to do nothing
>go to sleep alone and miserable with no goals and nothing i want to achieve
>every day just wish i could walk off somewhere alone and disappear, no one knows where i went, i just die and no one ever knows or heard from me again
i wish i wasnt such a coward. i would have been dead over a decade ago.

>>76460367
not op but i unironically need advice on this, im one of those IT bugmen who was only in it to earn money for my family but lately the whole "no point to my job and it doesn't benefit anyone" thing is getting to me. ig it benefits me insomuch as I can wfh and spend time with my family and it provides for them, but im really missing the "work that has purpose" thing

im not even sure what I should do instead that would give me that feeling. Be a doctor or something? my favorite job that i've ever worked was being a bartender in college, but that was just because it was a ton of fun and it's probably not very doable for a family man

>>76460501
sounds like you should work on the "alone" thing, do you have friends or date? if not, why?

>>76460502
>wahhh, i have a useless job that pays a lot and is work from home so i can do nothing all day and i have a family, life is unfair wahhh

>>76460505
i didn't say my life was unfair i'm just unfulfilled in my work and would like to maximize my purpose and feeling like i made a difference in my one turn on earth

>>76460501
you're already dead by the sound of it.
you're not too much of a coward to die, you're too much of a coward to live, so you've already killed yourself in all ways but physiological
and for nothing, too
you may yet live, but you won't

>>76460506
You are already making a difference by providing for your family, stop sounding like a faggot

>>76460507
based post, disturbing pic. not even sure why

>>76458305 (OP)
I love my job. I am the only male there. All the woman dote on me like the mother I wish I had. I fucking love Mondays Bros.

>>76460506
the only thing that matters is providing for your family. go take your big salary doing nothing and live a better life than most people

My pet fish are the only reason I haven't completely given up because they need me to feed and clean them

>>76460526
same except I'm the fish

>>76458305 (OP)
This is (You) OP

>>76460671
>is this all there is?
>man in postmodern prison can't even look through the bars to the outside

>>76458388
>Goals and success are retarded and they wont make you happy
You have a whole neurotransmitter dedicated to the neural pathways involved in desiring goals and moving towards them. That neurotransmitter makes you feel so good you feel bad when you don't get it.
Guess your goals were retarded or you didn't actually move towards them because it was too inconvenient and now you're coping.

>>76460504
because im socially avoidant and offer nothing to anyone
>>76460507
yeah thats a good way to put it, too afraid to live. i dont know why im terrified of everything. i just am. i avoid everything and have no confidence that i can do anything.

>>76460727
there's a bit of a hiccup to that anon. the volitional networks we have are built for 'wanting' more than they are built for 'liking'
that is, the sensation of desiring goals always exceeds the pleasure of achieving them.
we are not wired for contentment, for a 'finished' completed state, where we 'made it', you will always have new physiological desires.
but only a retard would be discouraged by this. Just accept that 'making it' is not necessarily the state in which the desire to 'make it' is fulfilled in a final way, just one where what 'making it' means is transformed by the things you have achieved.
>>76460745
what are you usually afraid will happen if you try?

>>76460745
Dude listen to yourself you know exactly what your problem is, you've always known, good Lord you let yourself imagine obliteration before you'll step out of your comfort zone. Why are you being so dramatic? Let's say youre afraid to talk to girls; can you talk to the cashier at the store? The gas station attendant? Can you talk to them about the weather? Can you take baby steps from there? You will eventually build confidence in whatever you want to build confidence in but you have to take baby steps and actually try things

>>76460769
>there's a bit of a hiccup to that anon. the volitional networks we have are built for 'wanting' more than they are built for 'liking'
>that is, the sensation of desiring goals always exceeds the pleasure of achieving them.
>we are not wired for contentment, for a 'finished' completed state, where we 'made it', you will always have new physiological desires.
That's why we invented religion because you're always striving towards a heaven you'll never get in your actual life

>>76460804
>can you talk to the cashier at the store? The gas station attendant? Can you talk to them about the weather? Can you take baby steps from there? You will eventually build confidence in whatever you want to build confidence in but you have to take baby steps and actually try things
But what if I want to sex them right there??

>>76460769
>but only a retard would be discouraged by this.
Yeah exactly, there's nothing wrong with constant pursuit. "Making it" let's you take a breath, but as a rule for everything if you're not growing you're dying. That's apt for the fit board, muscle fibre itself is in constant flux, and exists in between anabolism and catabolism. Time doesn't stop. Why should we?
Those who do and go full NEET don't seem very fulfilled and claim to hate themselves if they face a mirror on their lives.

>>76459973
>You could've wished for finding a soul mate o
You wanted this shit to become another /r9k/ thread? Shame on you, go sit in the corner.

>>76460397
Show yourself a little compassion man. I'm also in my 30's and live with my parents. It's difficult sometimes but I cherish the time I get to spend with my family. It's way better than being homeless or trapped in the cycle of working a shitty job and then 90% of your pay goes to rent. I don't know the secret to being happy but I do know that suicide isn't the answer. Find new hobbies and figure out a way to socialize. Kava bars and riding a bicycle are my main two. I also agree with the other anon about prayer, it's important. Jesus Christ is God.

>>76459936
>What do you genuinely desire?
Death tbqh. I thought a lot about it too.

I'm successful by every metric but I can't say I've ever felt happy in my life. I only feel anger and disgust towards everything I see - from commercials to my fellow man. I'm not suicidal whatsoever because I might as well see what tomorrow brings, but I really wouldn't mind if a stray rooftile fell on my head and killed me. Like the OP said, life is just dread, resentment and cottage cheese.


I am eating it now. The resentment and the cottage cheese (that's why it is red)

>>76460502
>lately the whole "no point to my job and it doesn't benefit anyone" thing is getting to me

Unlike the previous anon who is a ginormous faggot I'm here to give you some real advice.

If you work in IT and think your work is without purpose, you are out of your mind. I work at one of the biggest multinationals and I can tell you in earnest that one well-informed IT technician can design systems that save thousands upon thousands of hours of work across a firm. You don't feel or see the change you make happen, but the results of your efforts are palpable. If you work for a major corporation, consider its effect on the world and make that changecfeel like your own. Ultimately every business exists to funnel money to the pockets of anglo-saxon jewish pedophile financiers BUT during that process whatever company you work for is making a difference, whether its coming up with solutions for individuals or other companies, or whether it funds projects.

Whatever your firm does, if you're in IT you're making a much bigger difference than most people sans senior management. If you become disparaged just think "I'm just that good, this whole world wouldn't work so efficiently were it not for experts like me"

>>76461274
lol no, work is meaningless. "Find your dream job" is a psyop. The best job is no job.

there's no formula for happiness that works for everyone, you have to find your own but you'll have to be less faggy and retarded to accomplish this

>>76460039
You just have to try everything you can

>>76461372
If ur rich I'm happy 4 u anon but if ya aint then ya gotta pull your weight

OP here. I did everything again today. today was back day. I hated it but WAGMI frens
also, stop bumping my cringe thread, I was just being a pissy whiny bitch. nobody cares about how you feel at the end of the day. only you can save yourself.

>>76459973
No such thing as a soul mate. Love - even the ones that look like they will last forever - can and will end.

man these advice threads are so much better on /fit/ than /adv/ that's full of weird troons, absolutely fuck the retards who ban me when i try to get good life advice from the /fit/bros

>>76458305 (OP)
>Wake up
>shower
>feed my pet bunny
>kiss my gf on the forehead (she get's up half an hour later than me
>bike to work
>code, bulk in the cafeteria, socialize
>bike home and pick up gf
>go running or gym depending on which day it is
>go home
>cuddle bunny while watching anime with gf
>eat dinner
>draw a bit
>cuddle gf while watching anime with bunny
>play some vidya
>probably have sex

This is pretty ideal for me, but I was honestly pretty happy when I was single as well. Life is fun anon, and being in shape and in control of your own mind enhances it greatly.

>>76460501
Why don't you just take your money and go backpacking in asia or something at this point?

If I was so fucking depressed I'd take the hedonism pill in a second. Go bang thai girls or whatever you've been fantasising about. What the fuck is the point of perpetuating a daily grind that doesn't support a lifestyle you enjoy?

>>76461702
There's nothing wrong with pulling your weight. It's just that the other anon was pretending that some random IT job is meaningful. That mindset makes you content with being a wagie which is obviously not a good idea. Like if I offered you 5mil, you'd instantly retire and pursue your hobbies instead. So what's the point of pretending that your work is meaningful?

>>76458305 (OP)
You gotta find your purpose in life. Not something that brings you joy, but rather something that you know is worth achieving. The bad news is that it takes some people a long time to find that purpose.

>>76460108
Extremely bluepilled. When I tried opening up to my father about my hopelessness he made me take pills under threat of cutting off his support (I had no rent money at the time and he's semi-rich, it wasn't a burden for him) and he said he'd call the cops and institutionalize me if I tried to leave, and when I tried opening up to my mother she told me to please not become a school shooter, despite me never expressing any ill will towards anyone. Nobody wants to hear about your issues, no matter how serious they are to you and no matter how often people tell you that they care. You just get lumped into their preferred category of bad people if you out yourself as dyfunctional. I tried prayer for six months or so. I felt nothing but tedium. I haven't cried in a decade, except when drunk or dreaming.

>>76461798
i will get absolutely no sympathy from the broken incels on /fit/ but I have a good gf and a pretty good life from the outside but yeah I was way happier when I was single too, not sure what's wrong, I might be more autistic that I think and have a really hard time "being myself" even around my gf of many years because I just feel like there's some expectation for how I'm supposed to behave, say, do, etc. When my gf is on a work trip or visiting family or something I'm really happy because I can be "weird" in private finally, have a weird sleep schedule, have a weird routine, watch my weird yt stuff instead of her netflix shows etc. Not sure how to fix this, I'm not miserable per say but the idea of even more "expectations" getting lumped on me with marriage and starting a family is pretty anxiety inducing, but maybe that's normal

but man it's nice to be single sometimes, just doing whatever I want however I want with zero accountability to anyone but myself

>>76458305 (OP)
>eat 5 bombaclaat eggs
why on earth did this crack me up of all things

>>76461798
based amen

>>76461806
Sorry anon I think u might be retarded

>>76461779
Sounds like you can't entertain the idea that an actual woman with a brain and soul exists out there, which is understandable considering women are taught to be whores from young age. Doesn't mean she doesn't exist in a different world or universe, so just put effort and pray you meet her

>>76462447
No, he's right, but you might actually be retarded. If one spent most of their time satisfying their needs in a challenging way, they would have no interest in IT or other office work. This shows us that that kind of work is a surrogate activity, which means it will not be meaningful or fully satisfactory and that most non-retarded people will never be truly content in it.

>>76462471
Never said anything about the quality of the women. I have been in relationships with very good women but even the ones that lasted for multiple years eventually ended. The mindset of
>we will make it through thick and thin
is not as common as you'd think, even for couples that have been together for a really long time

>>76461015
relatable

>>76462548
So you've been in relationships with ''good'' women and yet they still did not last? I'm not sure if you have some messed up idea of what a good woman is or if you were the problem every time. Regardless, if both of you weren't pulling the load it's natural to assume the relationship wasn't going to last.

>>76458305 (OP)
>>eat 5 bombaclaat eggs
zez

>>76458305 (OP)
Think about what you'd think of someone else who says this stupid doomer shit. I fall victim to 'none of this matters' type thinking all of the time, but then I remember when I see people who act this way I think they are absolute losers

>>76458305 (OP)
>CompTIA Network+ exam all day because I need to get a stupid job in stupid DevOps
your not getting a devops job with a fucking CompTIA certs, retard.

>>76462674
why would you assume I'm that retarded? of course that's not going to get me a DevOps job. it's just a good first cert for my CV.

>>76462656
This is it. Nobody I admire believes that, or acts like they believe nothing matters.
Goya was prone to bouts of despair but he was still creating.

Make your main hobby creating something. Express yourself my nigga.

>>76461274
>I make the Freemasonic make work prison more effective.
You are even meta-aware of the futility of “making a difference” and yet you still wrote this post. That’s worse than if you weren’t aware.

>>76458305 (OP)
Make something and sell it.

well today i called off work, pretended to my parents like i was going, then spent the entire day either pacing around downtown talking to myself, or biking around downtown talking to myself and being very confused about how weekdays in a town work because i figured everything would be closed since people are at work. i truly dont understand how humanity works.

and i dont even care anymore. im just gonna call off every day then stop going in, or get on medical leave for my current mental health suicide crisis and never go back. wasting my life at this job has driven me to suicide anyway so i figure theres no better alternative. i feel exactly like the op, i dont care about anything, i dont care about myself, i hate being alive.

>>76461274
>>76463729
It's so god damned funny how warped people's minds are. This retard thinks that because the IT technician "designs systems that save people so much work time" that it makes his work meaningful, even if it's for white jewish pedophile CEOs. He thinks that because it makes his cancerous multinational corporation run better, that it makes the work "meaningful" by default. Meaningful work is actually making a positive change in society. Helping people. Helping animals. Helping the less fortunate. Doing things that actually benefit society, frequently without you receiving the thanks and recognition for doing so. Not working to make your faceless, cancerous organization more money and more power but just because your job affects a lot of things within the company it's therefore "meaningful" work. Jesus Christ.

>>76460525
> your family.
You mean the wife, who only got married when she saw the first wrinkles and would still be sleeping around if she didnt hit the wall?

>>76464744
what do you do for work

>wake up
>remind myself I am just bits matter working together to form a conscious being and my time here is limited
>life radiates wonder and bliss in every single facet

depressing thread

Start retardmaxxing, and just not giving a fuck.

>>76461796
Been saying this for years. /fit/ is the only place I can have an ounce of trust for relationship and general advice, since there is an actual culture of improvement here.

>>76465064
your life must be complete dog shit holy fuck

>woke up
>ate mushed beans with oats in it
>not even bri'ish
Dude, life could be worse

>>76465051
Does Mr Long pay you well?
Not saying his advice sucks but it's not actual advice. It only works if your life already works, in order to add flavor.
Telling a 20something years old complete loser to retardmaxx is only gonna push him further into fapping to hentai and drinking cheap beer

>>76465065
Yeah, it is.

>>76458305 (OP)
>>he took the smegma male meme
Consciously or unconsciously, you just want pussy. You lift for pussy, you wageslave for pussy. Men suffer because they want a sexy partner to accept them. Your whole greentext would be turned into perfect dream if you added a girl in.
Once you are beyond pussy, you become enlightened.
>be me
>wake up
>fart
>lift
>sleepmax
>sleepmax more with melatonin
>life's good
>>76458388
(You) are the normie

>>76461779
Theu do exist. But very rare, not an option for 99% of men. You need to be the top 1% in terms of luck or attractiveness. For most men, it's not a worthy consideration

>>76465068
Idk, OP's post - and many who seem to relate - isn't suggestive of a complete loser. Seems more like someone who overthinks things, and "cares too much" to do anything, but doesn't care enough to go out and do something.
To be honest, I can't make it 5 minutes through one of the guy's videos, but the titles are funny and he has a point.

>>76460095
You will never be happy with how you look. Its chasing the dragon, you're as mentally ill as the foid injecting her face and body with silicon to resemble some false ideal of what they should look like.

Focus one exercise that aligns with things you enjoy or goals you want to achieve. I enjoy submission grappling and hiking. I lift to be better at grappling and now I'm also focusing my training to start mountaineering. Exercise is not a chore but a blessing to build me up to achieve things in my life. Remember that feeling when you have a cold and your nose is blocked and you regret how you took being able to inhale deeply through it when healthy? Now imagine when youre 80 and its a struggle to walk up some stairs. You onky get your youth once. Don't spend it self flagellating to look a certain way for others. Spend it on achieving goals and feats that make you proud.

>>76465068
yea, I think the retardmaxx advice is good for slightly neurotic autismos like myself that overthink things though. Kinda like yes-man, if you have your life in order and are just looking for a spark, then you need to open yourself up to new opportunities instead of just staying in your comfort zone all the time. Let loose, allow yourself to be a little retarded
But if your life is shit, you live in the ghetto surrounded by drug addicts and criminals, you have no money etc. then you need to do the opposite

>>76465051
>>76465068
>>76465123
>>76465853
damn never thought i'd see discussion of elisha on /fit/, im part of their mens high thumos group but im admittedly confused by his advice and always have been; inb4 internet daddy buy an older brother etc etc he's a cool guy clearly, has been through a lot in life, and he doesn't sell a product nor look or act like a fag like pretty much every other fitness/life improvement person

but yeah his advice confuses me and he thinks its cool to only talk in parables and not explain any further. he says if you're unhappy with anything, listen to your gut and get rid of that thing, even has gone as far to say "if you're unhappy in marriage, get a divorce lol" and yet he's married, he says "if you're unhappy with a domestic life, live a life of adventure lol" but he lives in a suburban house. he says "if you don't like your job quit and become homeless lol" but he lives a stable life. I don't get it. He's very anti-routine, anti nofap, anti-diet, he does think everyone should lift but that's pretty much it. He says he's Christian but says guys should just fuck whoever and stop thinking so much about life and worrying about outcomes; seems like chad advice but is that really wise?

You didn't forget to have fun, did you? PUHLEEASE tell me you didn't fall for the "Protestant work ethic" meme.

>>76466001
why did that guy not do fun things he'd enjoy? seriously why did he not do those things? he just spent his weekends at home alone? why not go out and do fun things? why is he trying to blame anyone but himself for not doing fun things?

>>76458305 (OP)
>Bill dropped his keys on the counter and stood there staring at them, suddenly thinking about all the times he'd thrown his keys there before and how many days of his life were wasted repeating the same tasks and rituals in his apartment over and over again. But then he wondered if, realistically, this was his life, and the unusual part was his time spent doing other things.

>>76458305 (OP)
indian thread

>>76458305 (OP)
Good luck on your exam, bro.

>>76458305 (OP)
ive failed that stupid exam twice, professor messer is not remotely enough of a resource to pass, the PBQ stuff was retarded and insane

>>76466001
>this is my 30 seconds trailer
>only shows herself having fun on vacation
now I know what she's like for 2-4 weeks a year, but what about the rest?
>>76466291
this was an interesting movie

>>76466238
>why did that guy not do fun things he'd enjoy?
most of the things the woman is doing aren't fun unless you have other people with you entertaining/sponsoring you so they can have sex with you.
was he supposed to go have fun at the beach by himself? was he invited to parties? no. why would anyone invite him. he's DYEL and ugly and negative and lives a boring stable life.
the only real question is why he never pivoted and lifted weights. it's not even too late, he could still lift weights and turn everything around.

>>76466422
but why doesn't he have friends to hang out with?

>I did everything my slave master told me to do and now I'm miserable
Make two hundred dollars a month and live in the woods creating art.

>>76466422
hiking alone is fun, biking alone is fun, lifting alone is fun, gymnastics alone is fun, practicing a martial art with others is fun, etc etc. Lets be real here we all know he's a lazy cowardly faggot who did nothing but play video games because he's a bitch, no other way to say it

>>76458305 (OP)
You need at least one (1) hobby that isn't Consooming Media. Lifting doesn't count and neither does eating, those are necessities of life.
Learn an instrument, pick up a paintbrush, do something that engages your mind. This is a very /v/ autist way to explain it but you can grind most skills like Runescape. Anything you wish you could do, look up how to do it and start working on it.

>>76466763
Do competitive video games count

>>76466422
>as he supposed to go have fun at the beach by himself?
Yeah why not
I'd go to the beach alone just swimming and chilling in the sun

>>76466765
They can, but not inherently. There's a ton of established study in music on how to Practice "properly," the principles can apply to gaming.

>>76466422
i agree with femoids having piss easy lives due to everyone wanting to sleep with them but i loved being single unlike the incels, i'm very social and never had a hard time making friends and would spend my free time playing pickleball, going on runs, skateboarding, longboarding, chatting up girls in target or at chick fil a, etc

a gf is really a ball and chain on spontaneous fun like that

well i guess this depressing off topic thread is as good as any, i finally had a complete mental breakdown today on a tuesday morning after 33 years of a useless, meaningless life never really speaking to people. just started collapsing and crying on the ground at my mother. crying out about how worthless and pathetic i am, how much i want to die, how im done going into my shit job or doing anything really. she said she and my father are going to need to get me help, send me to a hospital, send me to a psychologist or something. i dont know if theyll actually do it but ive never had any sort of treatment or medication in my life, i told her that it doesnt matter and that im way too far gone and my life has been far too wasted for me to be helped, that it would be much better if she just drove me to a bridge and dropped me off there so i can jump

i know blogposting doomer misery is pathetic, and even if you do read this kind of stuff, youll just say how pathetic it is to act like that, literally lying on the floor in the fetal position crying and mumbling how much i want to die. and yes it absolutely was embarrassing and humiliating, and its why i never opened up to anyone including my parents before because i knew it would go like this. i dont really know what the future holds because at the moment i have literally no hope. ive never done anything or experienced anything in my life and i just think all the time about how ive wasted everything.

>>76458305 (OP)
Next time skip the part where you make this stupid thread

>>76466860
do you lift weights and have a good physique? just curious

>>76466860
you live afraid. you have to learn to do things that make you uncomfortable, my friend.

>>76466860
I neeted until last year (34 now) and just went back to college. I managed to make that step so I count myself lucky but I know how you feel. Looking at the future in our situation is disarming. I'm sorry, Anon, I wish you strength.

>>76466902
yes, makes no difference when youre a socially isolated, accomplishment-less, career-less loser
>>76466906
yep, fear and terror mark every moment of my life to this point. i wish i could just "do hard things" like its nothing
>>76466909
were you happy and somewhat accomplished other than being a neet? or were you just an overall loser like me

>>76466968
>were you happy and somewhat accomplished other than being a neet? or were you just an overall loser like me
Nah, back in my 20s I dropped out of college, got absolutely humiliated by the only gf I ever had, made my parents lose an inordinate amount of money and was generally an unhygenic slob. I was a pretty despicable person.

>>76467007
so youve somewhat recovered now at 34? at 33, i just dont think theres any reason or hope for me, so i dont see a reason to even bother or try.

>>76466968
having a good fizeek is not an easy thing to do, so if you have one, you can obviously do hard things. As for money/career that's a whole other thing but most people struggle with it man, my dad was a successful engineer who still had bouts of unemployment lasting years but still always came out on top.

>>76466968
oh and for being socially isolated do you work a job around people and try to become at least acquaintances with them? this can be done anywhere

>>76467042
yeah i did, then my shame overwhelmed me and i dont talk to people anymore.
>>76467033
>As for money/career that's a whole other thing but most people struggle with it man
in todays age, almost everyone makes huge money, working from home, doing very little work. no one really struggles with money/career stuff anymore.

>>76467067
oh boy i can see why you have issues. are you "sky isn't blue, it's red" tier crazy? the increasing poverty of the wealthiest country in the world is almost constantly the #1 topic of any discussion having to do with money or the economy. most people are poor and increasingly so, very few people are making "good money" and even fewer do so from home. That is objectively reality, as much as the sky is blue

>>76467083
stock market is at all time highs and all i ever see from everyone is how they talk about how they work remotely, work for a few hours a day, and make six figues doing it. how can you say people are getting poorer

>>76467106
have you never heard of median or average income? the median income in the usa is like $48k, and median means HALF of all adults earn under that, and HALF of all adults earn more than that. if you earn anything close to $48k you're just like everyone else, and $48k is quite poor when compared to median housing costs

>>76467106
>all i ever see from everyone is how they talk about how they work remotely, work for a few hours a day, and make six figues doing it
You see this in real life, or on social media?

>>76467023
There is no reason to try other than you wanting to live. As for if you want to live or not I say if you're going to kill yourself you may as well at least try something different first. May I suggest picking a highway and just driving in that direction? Pick up odd jobs to make some cash, hitchhike if you have to, why not? The other option is a gun in the mouth.

>>76467113
>>76467130
youre probably right im probably delusional with that.
>>76467163
its definitely a very logical thing to say, that is for a normal person. i dont know why ive never gotten that desire to try. f i had that desire, i probably wouldnt be in this situation.

>>76467182
Fuck the desire. Get off the computer now and go for a walk anywhere. Sleep outside tonight.

>>76467190
ironically i actually sort of did that yesterday. i called off "work" and spent 8 hours either walking or biking around downtown, or just sitting down there. figured it was better than going into work in sheer misery, but it really did nothing for me. now i called off today and this is what im doing. i dont know what it will take, if anything, that will make me do something with my life. maybe if my parents actually do force me into a psychiatric ward or into therapy things might get better.

>>76467182
therapy might be useful insomuch as you likely have A LOT of incorrect beliefs about yourself and how the world works, there's nothing wrong with that either, it's pretty common. Look at how you believe you're such a loser when you unironically believed that 99% of adults earn 6 figures wfh and you couldn't have been more wrong, we're all out here grinding just like you, you have more in common with everyone than you think. Do you believe most men have great bodies too? maybe less than 5% of young men can see their abs or bench more than 1pl8 no joke, look up some stats on this stuff man, you're super out of touch.

>>76467023
I'm very far from having made it lol. I'm getting a shitty degree in an oversaturated field and I'm older than most TAs, which is a constant reminder of how out of place I am over there. I also doubt I'll be able to ever have a family at this point. People always joke on here that zoomettes lust for millenial cock but to tell you the truth I feel like a creep whenever I even talk to any of them. But yeah, it's a first step.
Idk, man. The only way you can make it out of this is through a series of baby steps. A year ago I had a rotten tooth that made my face look like Bella Ramsey, I was 10kg overweight and couldn't do a single pushup. What separates me from that person are the small victories I gained when I scheduled a visit at the dentist, decided to put down the fork and went to my town's campus to put in my application. Now things are finally starting to be on autopilot somewhat and I spend most of my time not thinking about my life.

>>76467201
so you hate your job, gotcha, quit it and find a different one. Do you believe all jobs within your grasp are the same? do you not think you can get a slightly easier job, or a more fun job, or a more social job, or a better paying job etc? why not? what incorrect beliefs do you have about work that make you miserable? and if it's just you're mad about working anything in general, EVERYONE hates working, it's called work for a reason, why do you think you shouldn't have to work like everyone else? very immature beliefs

>>76467201
Well I hope things get better for you. One thing that helped me through a suicidal phase was realizing my agency and starting to create something. My avenue was writing, but any art or even some shit like gardening works.

>>76458305 (OP)
>DevOps
>to work for some stupid boss
>to earn stupid fucking FIAT toilet paper money
>to buy stupid consoomer slop
or
you could start your own company
buy a house in the mountains
and spend your days working out, working on your schedule, shitposting on 4chan and hiking

>t. self employed in devop, living in the austrian alps
surprisingly the few 100m of fiber optic cable weren't that expensive

>>76467203
i recognize and admit that the work thing isnt really necessarily true. but i dont think im a loser because i have some warped sense of what a normal person is. im a loser because believe me im a complete loser, if i described all the reasons why im a loser you woudlnt believe someone could live a life like this, not to mention doing it all the way until 33. my biggest problem is the unending shame and regret of how ive let myself get to this point.
>>76467209
>People always joke on here that zoomettes lust for millenial cock but to tell you the truth I feel like a creep whenever I even talk to any of them
younger women likely do lust for older men, but not older "men" like us. they want successful older men, not proto-neet mid 30s losers. i definitely commend you on actually finding the motivation to apply and go back to school. i actually got a bachelors degree 10 years ago, but it was a completey miserable experience and it did absolutely zero for me, so that all i think about when i think aobut the idea of going back to school.

>>76458305 (OP)
I kinda have this feeling too. It just feels like floating through life on autopilot. I have a gf, fairly good job and recently got my degree but I still feel kinda shitty.
My main focus in life rn is getting my masters, getting a better job and having kids and providing them with a better childhood than mine while giving them more opportunities to achieve greatness.

>>76467237
I kneel

>>76467241
>"floating through life on autopilot"
>girlfriend, good job, degree, desire for a masters, improving job, having children and lots of opportunities
Do you even know what "floating through life on autopilot" means?

>>76467237
Oh is this another rich self-employed work from home IT/tech worker on 4chan?

>>76467237
curious, how to get into devops? 30m, cybersecurity, but dont know much more than vibe coding. devops seems comfy, but I feel like the knowledge barrier is intense.

>>7646724
i kinda feel like you've done a lot worse than you're willing to admit to yourself and others and ill just say that honesty is the only thing that can free you, both to get the burden off your shoulders but also to learn that everyone has done things worthy of guilt and shame but don't walk around with all that anyway. you should have pride in your athleticism if you have it, and you should have little pride in general because the only stuff really worth guilt is seriously hurting others or like killing someone, anything else IS NOT something deserves shame and guilt, you're a human with human tastes and weaknesses, just like the rest of us

did you like grow up in a rich family that expected you to become a ceo or something? why all the guilt and shame? just cuz you're lazy and like to fuck around? very normal man

>>76467284
meant for >>76467240

>>76467284
>i kinda feel like you've done a lot worse than you're willing to admit to yourself and others
What does this mean

>>76467240
>i definitely commend you on actually finding the motivation to apply and go back to schoo
Thanks, Anon. From your posts you sound like a good guy who's lost himself in a series of bad choices. I completely understand that situation and you have my deepest sympathies.

>>76466860
>>76466968
I don't think breaking down is really possible.
I am not sure if you can understand this but think about it.

People don't break down in nature and alone now do they? You don't break down when attacked by a wild animal, you don't break down when at night freezing in a forest during a heavy rain. You are always at breaking point during situations like this, it feels like it, but you never break down. Only in movies people do, but in rl everything tells you that people should, but they don't. At their most hopeless, they fight the most fierce, even.

You might say, but women often do break down when under duress and alone, especially when the situation does not call for it. But a counterargument to this is, how would you know? You speak from experience right? This would mean that you never seen a woman break down alone, you've seen her do it when you were around.

Even If subjected to a great torture, you don't break down. If you are hurt, you will dissociate, you will cry and scream, but you won't break down. When there is no hope, you don't break down.
But we do break down when there is hope.

Humans will break down when defeated, or humiliated by a human enemy. Humans will break down when under huge stress, especially if its over a long period of time. But its to friends, to family. We don't break down alone, we kill ourselves.
It would make sense that if you had enough and were alone, that you would just lie down and perish, but nobody does that. Real catatonic state is not common.

What do you think? Even the post you made now. LOOK AT ME I AM SO PATHETIC. Is a function of our behaviour. Humans do this, when they feel like they need help but they help themselves. Its a help seeking behaviour.
You did all this pathetic shit, despite knowing its pathetic and bad and should be avoided right? Despite thinking your parent's cant help you, you cried to your mother. Why? Don't tell me, it didn't feel good.

>>76467274
where did it say rich?

I'm certainly not poor or anything
but by literally no definition rich

>>76467282
>curious, how to get into devops?
well
>studied comp sci
>got interested in devops because of a cool lecture
>made a fairly popular OSS devops tool like a year later
>after graduation, got a job at smallish machinery production for their IT
>boring af
>asked them if they'd outsource their devops stuff to me as self employed
>quit and started with 20h/month service contract for old employer
>got a few others
>plus paid support for my OSS tool for a few companies
you definitely need a very broad foundation

and you gotta find a niche that allows for freelancers or small consulting companies
the way I started was kinda easy mode, because I had a good relation with the Owner / CEO of my former employer

>>76460108
That stupid bitch doesn't answer the phone or call back.
As far as my Dad he died and left the business I helped him build to my little brother who never visited him or worked there an hour in his life and who continues to not put an hour a week into his new ATM machine. Parents are garbage the one thing I would ask is to relive my life with parents who weren't evil.

>>76467336
this post is very philosophical and too much for my mentally ill pea brain to comprehend.
>You did all this pathetic shit, despite knowing its pathetic and bad and should be avoided right? Despite thinking your parent's cant help you, you cried to your mother. Why? Don't tell me, it didn't feel good.
i guess because ive never expressed to anyone before how despondent and in bad of a state i am in. ive never talked to a doctor, or therapist, or friend, or anyone about it. i barely even speak to my parents. i guess in a way its pretty much my last ditch effort to have someone try to help to fix me because suicide is the last remaining option, and its clear i am incapable of fixing myself.

>>76467399
word, probably not for me then. I just don't see myself spending the time to really get into it like that. probably would be better off going into sec engineering or mgmt. appreciate it anon

try having an actually hard life you stupid cunt. suck my dick

Knowing how normal people live life and can just be happy doing all the normal things makes me feel even ore like an outcast. How these people just have a brain that makes them desire the normal things in life, achieve them, and live good lives seemingly on autopilot.

>>76467306
you keep saying you're so full of guilt and shame, fucking why? what you have you done or not done that has filled you with so much shame? like actually? write it out, in detail, what is it? why do you think you deserve so much guilt? do you have any idea or are you completely unaware of why you have so much guilt? do you have any thoughts as to why?

you said you feel guilty about being a loser, but that's not an action, what actions have you done or not done that make you feel shame or guilt? don't just say "idk im a loser" fucking write out something IN DETAIL right now that is something you have or haven't done that makes you feel guilt and shame

>>76467407
Alright, to finish my thought.
If you are still here.

What I am trying to tell you, is something improbable and you will think its whack.

You are the one who chose this. Being pathetic, being a loser. Being this miserable, feeling this way all the time 24/7 and failing no matter what you do. Your misery is 100% by your own design.

And I am not saying that you are a loser because you're not chad, because you had the audacity to fail, because you were just not enough. This is something completely outside of the environmental factors that affected you, if anything you are like this because what you are was informed by those factors. Your past is the shape of your cage, but you are the physical material that fills it, the key.

Your state is a learned behaviour.
and I get how this might sound, its a terrible thing to say no matter if its true or not. You hate yourself immensely, I imagine you would like to be anyone but not you, a worthless pile of dogshit. Every waking moment is suffering, no? How could you chose this if you hate it so much? It cannot be true, I don't even really know you. Sounds like a normie tier advice that puts blame on the victim.
and if its true, then its even worse for obvious reasons. All this wasted time, wasted opportunities that will never ever return. Even if its true how can knowing this helps? You will just feel even worse.

But I wish to tell you that by learning this, understanding this, and accepting this, you will be set free. I imagine that you are probably aware that you are a bit stuck in your past, and all that shame is majorly the reason why you cannot progress. You might have already tried to circumvent this, however it didn't work well, because its like saying "unrape yourself bitch".

Honestly after 34 years of suffering, even if this framework was untrue, its the only useful one for you. Read about Alfred Adler and his works. Look up "All behavior is goal-oriented".

>>76467429
You win a gold medal in the suffering Olympics congratulations anon!

>>76464744
You have no vision or means.

You think the way you do because you are poor

I respect capital and the way it shapes the world, even if it does create atrocities

>>76467579
if youre asking about specific actions i have done to make me guilty/shameful, like expecting there to be things about committing crimes, or abusing people, or something like that, theres none of that. what makes me guilty and shameful is that ive done nothing with my life, that ive squandered any opportunities, a lifetime of inaction, and yes, this in turn made me end up as a loser, and thats what i feel endless guilt and shame about.

not being a social person during my life, leading to no friendships or relationship experience and few to no social memories. not being serious and planning about studies, career, or finances, leading to me having no career development in my 30s. not fostering a close relationship with my parents and knowing ive never made them proud and that their only real lasting impact will be having a complete loser only child whos probably even going to kill himself and make them live out their remaining retirement years alone and probably constantly wondering what they did wrong before they wither and die. not developing my basic life skills that are required to live like an adult. the fact that i never tried to get help for my problems when i was younger and possibly salvageable with a chance at a decent life, and instead still posting crying lifeblogs on 4chan like its going to do anything to improve my situation. these are all the types of things that i feel endless shame and guilt about.

>>76466860
I feel like that sometimes too anon, u just gotta not be a bitch

Start a company

>>76467651
unfortunately thats passed now. i tried to "not be a bitch" by never talking to anyone, never doing anything, just being bottled up my entire life

>>76458305 (OP)
You did not call kefir stupid.
Sounds like you like kefir. Get the faggot job, earn some faggot money, in your free time learn to make kefir. Make your own if it’s possible. If you enjoy it, keep going and see what it takes to start your own brand.

>>76467617
>>76467407
Lets go back to the conversation you had with the other anon, he asked you what's stopping you from going on a fun wild trip. You are already dead, and danger and fear is what makes people avoid adventures like this.

You said you have no desire for it. Then later you said you did it yesterday and just hanged around. Lets disregard the exact excuse of what you did, and why it didn't work out for you. But instead entertain this idea outside of your POV

Like a pretend play. You are a psychologist Mr. Someone else. Your colleagues come to you and tell you that they got into a philosophical debate about this one issue and they need your opinion with this, some arguments for both sides.
Your coworker asked "if someone has a terrible life and wishes to die, nothing is fun, everything is unpleasant, what is stopping that person from just leaving that life dropping everything and going on an adventure?"

You do not know anything about that person, that person is a clean slate. No circumstances beyond their control that you know of, just a generally miserable unhappy life and 2 working arms and legs.

What can be stopping that person anon? What benefit is there in staying even. If everything is terrible. Family = terrible, job = terrible. What is the point of staying? Remember that you cannot use things like no desire or mom will be sad, these are your own circumstances.

Think about that person anon. What would he feel? What good things could happen to him? If you already have an answer for yourself. Think of another person, when thinking about these things. This is your homework and the begging of changing how you think. If you cannot focus on these thoughts, then first learn how to focus. Meditate, and no it is not sitting cross-legged and doing mantra, there are multiple different ways. Look up the way that works for you, I recommend candle meditation.
Also if that post about your parents and getting doctor's help was true, let them help you.

>>76467700
Well that is being a bitch though. The opposite of that is not being a bitch.

I’ve been having the same issue in my entire 20s. I used to be able to just shut my brain off and do the work and feel nothing except some joy when I’d accomplish stuff. I can’t do that anymore. I see I’m doing this faggot work so I can do and have faggot things that I don’t fucking care about. Tried into one faggot career, realized I hated it and how miserable it made me. Got a job I hate, moved out and the only benefit I get from it is some comfort of having my own place. Idk what the point even is***see bottom*** Trying to just accept a job just needs to be a combo of the most money and least amount of stress, but it’s all still so faggy. Like what’s even the point? So I can exist? Would it not make more sense to just find comfort in homelessness and then drift my way into the woods and live on squirrels and poached deer? The absolute best case scenario of all of this is
>get faggot 9-5 that makes me hope I get into a car wreck for a day off
>meet woman I most likely hate being around beyond a few hours who more than likely has sucked 15 dicks and been an absolute whore at some point
>either get divorced and lose the faggot shit I’ve done the faggot work to attain or I have to maintain this perfect game where she’s never not on her toes always worried I’ll be the one to step out or leave which is just one massive faggot ass exhausting facade that only truly works short term
>????
>fucking die
We are tax cattle. The one life we get isn’t even our own. We are owned by kikes and whoever else
***I suppose if I could get the body and be less autistic less of a shut in I MAYBE could feel a little happier if I was balls deep in some Latina pussy every weekend, and perhaps spamming social media thirst trapping just to be a douche bag for fun. Can’t see it bringing me any real happiness. Would probably become very old very fast and then I’d just be an upgraded faggot who’s still depressed. Yeah nevermind, idk what the point is. This shit is fuckin gay

>>76467700
You have a warped perception of reality. Get your shit together and take what you want. Or at least be happy with what you have if you havent the guts to step on others

>>76467733
Unfortunately, when you have no desire for or success with social relationships, its understandable that life feels completely meaningless like this, only viewing yourself as labor to profit from nothing more, so it makes sense that you view your life as useless. I am in a similar situation in that I know I will never achieve something like marriage and children, and likely not have friends either, so I don't really feel any motivation to do anything. Even if I managed to get some "ultimate" job, like working from home for 2 hours a day and making six figures, enough to fund my entire life with no stress, it wouldn't matter if I had a house, a nice car, nice "things", as without people to share them with, they mean nothing.

>>76467201
Why haven't your parents kicked you out yet?

>>76467782
I wrote a post and walked you and myself through my ideal future self and in it realized my only motivation is to be better than other people. Which isn’t just narcissistic but kind of faggy. I want to do the work just because I’m passionate about a few things and see being in shape, working a 9-5, etc as a means to an end to fully enjoy and excel in those hobbies or whatever.
Here’s an example
>only real interest is fishing
>feels great to catch a new fish or a personal best
>isn’t enough, I want to catch a world record fish and have my name immortalized in record books so that I’m ahead of most people
It’s fucking ridiculous. My entire ideal future self in 5 years at 35 is just mediocre aiming for overall comfort and it’s in part because that’s how fucking low the bar is that just to be comfortable in life is enough to be better than most people. It all always stems back to how I’ll be better than other people. And that’s just fucking faggot tier. I want to do it because I wanna. Okay let’s say I wake up chad thundercock with millions of dollars tomorrow, I’m better than everyone at anything I try. So what? What does that do? Get me some respect? Approval? How does that help with me being happy long term. It doesn’t.
So idk the point. I just wanna do the stuff because it excited to be alive, and I am not.
>people
I spent a long time, years, being surrounded by people man. It wasn’t that. The only people I even talk to other than family are the very few who I felt like are genuine friends who want me to succeed. Which is very, very few. Kind of people who will tell me I’m being a stupid faggot if I fuck up

>>76458305 (OP)
the only thing that validates my life is connecting with God and my very close personal relationships. everything else is genuinely meaningless. if you have good friends and can find a woman you really love, it will lift you out of depression

>>76462141

I had no idea other people experienced this.

>>76467835
I dunno, I'm not a leech and I pay them rent, maybe they feel bad or something, they know I'm a complete loser

>>76458305 (OP)
I feel the same way. I used to study in college, work part-time, play team sports, and hang out with my friend group whenever I wasn't busy doing those other things. I was rarely home except to sleep and almost never by myself.
None of it made me happy. I hated every minute of it. I hated being around people, I hated the mundane tasks I was doing, I wanted to be alone all the time. I literally had dreams at night where I would run away from everything and everyone I knew.
Now I don't do any of those things, I moved countries, I have no friends, no job, no studies, I'm on welfare and lift at home, I never go outside except for grocery shopping and... I feel the same exact way I did when I was active and busy all the time.
It's all a scam, isn't it?

>>76468154
sounds like severe depression

>>76460108
Sissy bitch cuck, I would smash your head in if you speak this way to me.

>>76468247
No I don't think so. What reason would I have had to be depressed? I was very active, I was doing everything that was expected and required of me, I was very active socially and maintained many relationships, even some intimate relationships with women although I never really cared about any of them a great deal.
Now I don't miss any of them. I don't call, text, message or keep in contact with anyone from my old life. I am totally isolated almost always and I feel the same exact way. How could depression be the same in such diametrically opposed environments? It makes no sense to me.

>>76466806
How can I learn this power

>>76468639
Because depression doesn’t need to be caused by anything? It’s a brain issue. It’s like saying some healthy guy with cancer doesn’t actually have cancer because he’s so healthy, why would he have cancer
How do I know this, but people older than me don’t, this is a question I keep asking myself

>>76468980
Same with the money arguments here
“Oh, you want more money? Hmph, that’s such a shallow goal, I would rather you look for significance, or girlfiend, or <insert goal here>” Nuh-uh, that’s not what it means. People are aiming for more money because they want to use it to fix their issues, like move away from shitty environment, get a car so they can move around properly, or go to a good doc and fix their body issues they’ve always had, etc. And they *say* they only want money because their real goals are none of your business
Like, how is this in any way not obvious

>>76458305 (OP)
Time for drugs my friend. If you don’t have a social circle or girlfriend to care about then life sucks a lot

>>76467271
Maybe I formulated it in a bad way.
Most days just feel the same for me and I feel like I'm not really mentally present most of the time.
The main thing that bugs me is that as a kid/teen I really wanted to be super successful, achieve greatness and respect. But I'm too stupid and lazy to actually do that.
The job I have pays well and is tolerable, but I don't really like doing it. The course I'm studying at university will give me better job opportunities, but otherwise it's useless and boring. I'm not really doing anything I enjoy, which is a thing I always used to fear and it's making me feel like a loser. I understand that I probably have it better than most anons here, but I still feel kinda shitty about myself, i don't know why. My family has a history of mental illness and alcoholism, so maybe it's just genetics.
But yeah, the main thing that gives me purpose in life is the idea of having kids and grandkids and fiving them a better future.

>>76460452
Do tell us what your sovlful job is then faggot

>>76458305 (OP)
>drink 2 cups of kefir
Were these also stupid? This is important

>>76467917
that's true of most problems, welcome to the club buddy. If I had things my way I'd see my gf, who I still consider myself to love btw, like one evening on the weekend for dinner, some fun together, and sex. Rest of the time I'd do my own thing

>>76467622
at least i finally won something. swallow me urchin. kneel before me. worm

>>76467643
you should go see a therapist because they will very gently, very nicely, very easily guide you through your though process and beliefs about yourself and help you understand why you shouldn't have so much guilt and shame about these things, you're more normal than you think.

I’m in a similar boat, friends. I started to notice this happening back in high school. My friends were all choosing their paths but I couldn’t choose. I had no idea what I wanted to do. No career path seemed appealing. Eventually, I went to university anyway just to avoid getting a shitty part time job. Now I have a bullshit bachelor’s degree in a field I hate. And still, there’s nothing I want to do. Nothing has ever seemed appealing to me. I’m a reasonably capable person but I have no motivation, no ambition. I’m just another khhv neet loser who lifts weights and posts on 4chan.

My past few years of loser-dom have at least provided the time for some introspection. The truth is that I’ve always hated myself. I’ve never really had any personal confidence. My anxiety cripples me and I just freeze up and get paralyzed by terminal indecision. My best guess is that getting molested by my older male cousin was one of the main sources of my fucked up state of mind. But the brain is a complicated thing, so the truth is probably more nuanced than that. Regardless, I’ve got big-time trust issues, so I just bottle it all up inside and isolate myself. I’m in the best shape of my life (partially thanks to /fit/) but I’m withering away and dying, practically trapped inside my own mind.

I know I need to break out of this cage. Today is actually my birthday. I’m turning 28 and I feel like I have reached a make-or-break point in my life. But god fucking dammit, I don’t know what to do. I have never known what to do. I’m scared of everything. Every instinct in my mind/body tells me to hide inside, curl up in a ball, and just wait to die. I feel like I need to fight for my life here.

>>76470071
if you have a good body and are good looking then maybe get on a few dating apps and see if you can get some dates lined up not to try to smash or find a wife or anything but just to connect with people and practice socializing?

>>76470175
Yeah I’ve thought about that and you’re probably right that it’s a good idea. My social skills are okay-ish but I’m definitely out of practice. I have to overcome these fears.

>>76470210
hey you even considering it is a step in the right direction mate, good to hear, true incels would have just said "lol not wasting my time on jewish apps to get humiliated more by ugly chicks who only want to use me" etc etc and you can see why that mindset is so useless in getting anything done for ourselves. you will def get braver by slowly facing small fears and building up to bigger ones, you can do it

>>76470261
Thanks for saying this anon. I definitely don’t have any interest in that true incel mentality. That’s the lifestyle I’m running from. I’m just trying to get better at believing in myself. I will not give up hope.

>>76460513
Uncanny valley of architecture.

>>76458305 (OP)
I cope by trying new things.
So far, I have explored a lot of places near my workplace, build up a spice tolerance (unfortunately, my stomach can't handle it like my tongue), learn to write with my left hand, shooting a bow, and etc.
I am learning how to echo-locate, japanese, and how to play a ukulele.

Honestly, this, exercising, and meditation make it more acceptable, but yeah, life still sucks sometimes especially when imposter syndrome and existential dread always creep in every few days.

>>76468980
Oh okay that's reassuring so whatever I do I will always feel empty and meaningless because my brain is fucking me over
Thanks anon

>>76461151
>claim to hate themselves if they face a mirror on their lives.
Was there ever a more beautiful picture?

>>76467203
>>76469991
Not him, but if I went to a therapist/psychologist, I would present myself as a well-functioning person, and basically block them out of any pathologies I might have. I also wouldn't trust them. I don't understand how a shrink would be able to help me.

>>76471123
I wouldn't present myself as a well functioning person, but I just don't think a therapist or psychologist can help me because they have no idea what being in this state is like. I don't feel like a person who has had a normal life with friendships, relationships, a successful career, normal life achievements and milestones, etc. can really do anything to help someone who has never had any of them, and what it truly feels like to know not only how desperately behind you are in life at the present moment, but also that you are lacking all the life experiences and memories that you should have up until this point, and how you're somehow supposed to scrounge up motivation and hope to be better an fr the future. Like a lot of people say how when people are older, they are wiser, they have more life experiences that they can draw from to react better to things, etc. I have nothing to reflect back on. 33 but have the lived life experience of a young teenager.

>>76458305 (OP)
there’s only one answer my man

>>76471123
>>76471207
another incorrect belief. therapists often go into the field because of their own personal struggles or ones their loved ones have gone through, and their entire specialty is about trying to help people who have or have had hard lives or struggles. There's nothing they haven't heard or seen, they've helped people who have lived lives in unbelievable bad conditions, have endured extreme torment, have severe schizophrenia etc, there's nothing they haven't seen. Go get help man, do you want to get better or not?

>>76471222
witnessed

>>76471349
That's the thing though. It isn't as though I've been through anything bad or traumatic that they could latch onto to figure me out. I had loving parents, and I'm successful by any metric besides socially, but I just don't seem to fit. Based on my experiences with other people - especially women - I've come to the conclusion that I'm defective. This view is so so well-hidden, and so deeply ingrained in my psyche, that even if a therapist were able to identify it, it's incurable.
I don't think it's possible to go through ages 10-20 developing and fostering a genuine belief that everyone hates you and any possible act of kindness is trickery, and then in mid-20s have that belief cured.

Is this the vent thread?
>on ab machine
>lanklet jeet walks up to me asking how many sets left
>look over at the other open ab machine
>why not just use that one
>oh haha yea
>walks away

Like what?

>>76471473
well you're wrong about all those beliefs, and a therapist would explain that to you. Tell them everything you've said in these posts, I PROMISE YOU that you are not unique, you are not rare, you are not even unusual, but if you KEEP LYING to yourself and everyone, it's impossible for people to help, and you can let a therapist know this, you can say "I always lie about how bad I think things are, and I feel like I'm constantly hiding truths" and they will check a box on their clipboard and then KNOW exactly how to work with someone like you, because IT'S THEIR JOB TO DO THIS, they have SEEN IT ALL BEFORE

frankly they'll probably figure you out eventually if you do hide things/lie to them, they'll notice the inconsistencies in your story and THEY WILL CALL YOU OUT ON THEM, which is good, because they won't let you lie and will help you tell the truth to yourself and others and part of that is they'll help you understand the truth that YOU SHOULDN'T FEEL SO MUCH SHAME AND GUILT

they will explain it all, they can help you even if you believe they can't help, even if you believe you can't be helped, THEY WILL HELP YOU, hell they'll drag you to recovery kicking and screaming if they have to sometimes, but you HAVE TO GO AND TALK TO THEM

do you not want to get better? do you not want to feel good?

>>76471521
I appreciate you saying that and all, but a therapist isn't going to magically make people treat me any differently.

>>76471545
incorrect belief, they can make you understand yourself and the world more objectively, which will affect how you behave and your changed behavior will affect how people treat you. and even you don't believe in that chain of action, they can directly address "people just don't treat me well" by teach you all kinds of things that can help and they WILL PROVE IT TO YOU

there are therapists that will take you out in public and coach you on interreacting with strangers and sustaining conversations, they'll hold you hand at first then watch from afar, and even send strangers your way who are in on it who will act in certain ways to test your strengths and weaknesses

they can help. go get help

>>76471565
Maybe one day I might. I don't have the money for it right now though.

>>76471584
if you're poor apply for medicaid and you can get it for free.

>>76471590
I'm not a citizen.

>>76471598
lol that just improves your chances and im not joking, i know several illegals who have gotten full dental work done in the last couple years

>>76471621
with medicaid, to clarify

>>76471621
I'm not illegal though. Just an international student.
Also, how am I supposed to trust a therapist/find one whom I could trust?

>>76471696
wait you're a student? aren't you the guy who said he got a bachelors years ago and works some shitty job that he keeps calling in on? if you're a student your school has medical department who either has a therapist on staff or who will give you a referral, contact anyone at your school and they will direct you to the right place, explain you really need to talk to a psychologist about some person struggles, mental health stuff is like the #1 concern of institutions pretty much everywhere since covid

>>76471824
No, I said I'm a different guy >>76471123

>>76471835
gotcha, yeah your school should provide this stuff and you also have a student health insurance type thing usually that should cover the costs, just ask the admin staff about it all

>>76471349
Nigger, stop selling them like they're Batman or some shit. What the fuck do you have to gain from being this hyperbolic?

>>76471872
because if you have a person who is in a very tough place and claim they already lift, already have a good body, come from a good family, but aggressively insist they can't socialize, can't work, can't do anything of any kind and everything is hopeless what other fucking advice can you give them? if you say "go to Church" they'll claim they already go, if you say "pray" they'll claim they already do, if you say "talk to people" they'll claim they can't, if you say "have discipline" they'll claim it's impossible, if you say "fix your diet" they'll claim they've tried everything and nothing works

what else is there other than just go to a damn professional who will try to help you in some way, and commit to it so the therapy can stick a bit, and either get better and heal or move on to a different helper. They need another human to, conversationally, slap the shit out of them and hand hold them through the first day of school.

>>76471902
>They need another human to, conversationally, slap the shit out of them and hand hold them through the first day of school.
I thought that's what /fit/ is for.

>>76471910
ever since janny's started to banny any non-/plg/ threads, that type of discussion isn't really possible here, instead they want you to go to /adv/ which is somehow even slower and also full of foids and troons

It's sort of relieving to learn that there are other guys who feel this existential angst despite generally trying pretty hard in life. I've been lifting for a few years (recently broke 1000lbs SBD total), run 15 miles per week, don't drink or smoke weed, CS degree, high-paying remote developer job for a big-tech, over 3M in the bank. Like I feel like I've done what I'm supposed to do, or at least what the incentives have pushed me towards. But it's like I'm no longer capable of enjoying anything. I have no friends, no hobbies, never had a relationship (virgin at 30). I can't even get into video games or movies. When I'm not working I mostly just mindlessly scroll websites or watch youtube. I honestly don't know why I can't fix this, I'm capable of working hard, I am one of the more productive guys on my team... like it's not a lack of willpower I don't think. I really don't want to come across as one of these bitter incel types, I feel like I don't belong in this world, like I'm not a real person. I see other people and I want to talk to them but I utterly have nothing to say. There's just nobody home. My parents and sister care about me so I don't think I would commit suicide. I've never talked to anyone about this.

>>76472090
>I have no gf
Why can't you date if you're so hardworking?
>I have no friends
Why can't you have friends if you're so cool and rich?
I'm not saying i have the answers but did you even really want to be a rich CS guy? Shot in the dark here but I think most people want the same thing, and thats to be well liked by a large group of people whom they care deeply about and live with or near or are in regular close contact with and also to be intimately loved/desired by at least one other person whom you also love/desire

Basically what im getting at is a large and good family and/or friend group + being sexually desired and spiritually loved by someone who you reciprocate those feelings for is pretty much the peak of life. You're money and job are, in my opinion, meant to enable you to achieve or maintain those other things, but it sounds like you made your life all about the money/job

The answer as far as I know about you rn is to pivot your focus and go get what you want, you still have time and if you're an attractive option, you'll have attractive options.

>>76472090
Oh look another fully remote rich FAANG software engineer on /fit/

>>76472153
It's hilarious how he's never had a relationship, friends, or hobbies, yet thinks that working a computer-focused fully remote never talking to anyone job is the pinnacle of life and why isn't he happy

>>76472090
>over 3M in the bank
>virgin

so why are you not in Amsterdam fucking whores by the dozens are you stupid?

>>76472090
you should start with not lying on anonymous fitness forums

>>76460343
yeah, then I figured out that nothing mattered again. Insert IQ bell curve meme here.

>>76464872
>what do you do for work?
>no reply
its like a crab in a bucket mixed with Eeyore mixed with cowardly lion. NEET detection was off the charts with this one. I was NEET for longer than anyone and finally got a decent job just by applying. I look like a god compared to stinky thieving sail foamin shuckin and juvin hi fiving cousin ditnt stay alivin black n mildin baby daddy never wifin fried chicken testifyin dollar store bluetooth speaker amplifying fellow citizens with equal voting rights to me.

>>76473090
What decent job did you get out of NEEThood?

>>76460397
Dude ive been there i recommend seriously just being honest with your parents about how you feel and trying to forgive them and forgive yourself. There is plenty of life left to live. You know what your problems are, time to try a positive change. Don’t kys be brave.

>>76460397
>>76473156
>>76461222
i still had this thread open. looks like i posted this on sunday. well i can say that on tuesday (yesterday) i finally snapped and had the meltdown to my mother, the "real conversation" i referenced. saying how miserable i am, how much i hate living and want to die. for the past two days its been a lot of her sitting with me and me staring into space or just repeating how much i want to die. both of us did some crying too. she keeps saying how theyre going to get me help that i need either at a hospital or psychologist, how they dont want to bury their only child, how me dying would end their lives too. my father doesnt know but will know in the next day or two. and its probably going to be even worse and more difficult talking to him, and to both of them together.

its been such a horrible few days. i never even talk to my parents, and this is the first real conversation weve had in many years, maybe ever, and its about how i want to end my life. im not going back to my worthless dead end job where ive ruined my life, and im sure i wont get anything else given the job climate, my lack of skills, and my terrible personality. but at this point theres nothing else i can do. i might as well try to be a blank slate, maybe try to get medical help, and maybe if i get therapy or antidepressants ill get some motivation and try to do a bunch of things that i need to make something of my life. i doubt i will have any success with it and im assuming im dead by suicide by the end of the year, but i guess i need to try something.

>>76472090
i’ll be real with you. your problem is that you have your head way up your own ass, that’s why everything looks dark to you. you’re spoiled and self-obsessed. you need to start being thankful for being alive or it’s just gonna get worse. go for a walk in nature and appreciate the fact that you can walk and see at all, instead of fucking whining to strangers on 4chan.

>>76470583
>batmaxxing so you can lift in the dark

>>76460343
Wrong, what matters is what we decides matters. That's the benefit of nothing mattering.

feels thread?
I just had the most profound dream in my whole 27 years of existence. oversimplified version because my memory is terrible:
>go to some underground party (I haven't socialized in years)
>meet qt 3.14 goth gf
>stray from her and hang out with my friends, cop cars everywhere
>I shit you not, a song I had forgotten about starts playing from front to back. this never happened
>qt 3.14 reappears, smiling on her way back home with her friends
>I'm too spaghetti'd to do anything, but in a calm and composed manner
>her friend asks me if I'm not going to ask for her number
>I do
>she just walks away smiling, like I missed out but it's ok, life is beautiful
>I wake up and look up the lyrics to the song
I cried when I woke up. It's like my subconscious telling me I need the female psyche in my life. I also need to go out. Meet people. I'm stuck in this mancave you, my beloved frens.
song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RN-f3vZVRo

>>76473131
NTA but I got a webdev job after learning coding while neeting. That was 8 years ago though, it's obviously not that easy anymore.

>>76473267
im not him but i was really really happy when i was a spoiled self obsessed narcissist who had the balls to take whatever i wanted from life

im a lot less happy as a good boy cuck who does everything society tells him to and im just a good little worker drone husband paying a mortgage but im much more "selfless" now

>>76472090
Find God

>try so hard
>keep failing
>constantly get existential angst
>cycle repeats
I wish I can develop the whole "not give a fuck" altitude that other people have. I care too much for fucking minimum wage.

>>76474528
get a better education to get a better job or just apply for better jobs

>>76474570
Need experience for that.
That's why I am still there for another 8 months before I hop off.

>>76472090
>don't drink or smoke weed
always the single common trait of the friendless unsocialized losers

>>76466765
I think they can if there's a clear path to turn it from a consumption hobby to a more constructive one.
If you're bouncing between competitive games just wanting or hoping to be good at any one without putting time, thought, or effort into any of them, that's consumption.
If you sink the effort into playing a specific game, set goals and solve problems for your improvement, find other people (hopefully offline) who also like playing the game, make meaningful connections with those people, and positively impact your community around you, that's constructive.

>>76466763
I already do, and it doesn't help that much desu.

>>76474572
no where is worth being miserable imo, you managed to get this job with no experience, so go get another better job with no experience

>>76474589
easy there elisha

>>76469550
It doesn't matter what line of work I am in as I don't base my life around it. I'm fine with making just enough money to pay for my food, rent and internet because only drooling retards want stuff like expensive cars, jewellery or just lots of money to look cool in front of some whores

The whole time you were worried about shallow shit when you should have been realizing that your time on this earth is finite and the only thing that counts in the end is what you did with it.

>>76475663
how do i get it out of my head that the biggest point of male existence is having as much sex as possible with the hottest women possible and if im not doing that im a complete failure?

like i know it's kinda retarded since most guys don't experience that and most guys aren't sad about it but i have pretty bad life-long fomo about it

I just can't stop ruminating. All I think about is how many years of my life I've wasted, how far behind I am, how much stuff I've never experienced. And I'm in my 30s, people love to say "your 30s are still young", but they're really not, especially not when you're at ground zero of life.

>>76475890
you can still do it all
>but it's hard
do it anyway
>but how?
practice by doing slightly less hard things and build up
>it's hopeless!
it's not

>>76465074
how do you fart

>>76476506
well-meaning post. does have a bit of a "just stop being depressed" vibe though

Well this thread has been enlightening, its good to know that other people suffer as well. Misery does truly love company doesnt it?
Some of you guys are truly fags though and you should really just man-up.

>>76458305 (OP)
>wake up on this great planet
>apartment is already clean cause maid cleans it weekly
>get ready for work that I love
>spend half day scrolling reels and texting hoes
>get paid ton of money
>go home
>eat delicious dinner I made on Sunday
>hit the gym with bro
>get beers afterwards
>go to bed happy
Life is good bros.

>>76458305 (OP)
>Wake up on stupid planet
>Call in sick to my stupid job
>Relax and meditate to tibetan singing bowl mp3
>Realise that actually I'm a being that wants to be happy
>I will be happy, by thinking pleasant thoughts and being grateful I exist
>And I'll do it by choosing to do whatever I want
>I'll lift my weights because it makes me feel strong
>I'll go a walk in the summer heat because that's the work of a human, to walk upon the land as first child of the sun
>I'll pay a small amount of money for water that's been chilled for my enjoyment, and I'll think about how nice it is that I should be here, at this time, in this place, drawing breath and drinking water and listening to birds
>It is a stupid planet, but I'm stupider

BAP is a retard and my enemy, but he was right that man should walk around in a euphoric state, appreciating the world at a simple animal level. Honestly, try it.
Try noticing nice stuff for a change. Happiness is just thinking pleasant thoughts a good deal of the time.

>force myself into fitness for a year, losing 30kg and look good
>Spend a further year chasing natty developed upper body and running half marathons for leg gains
>Deprioritise this when I learn that just being shredded and handsome isn't everything, and I want other things from life than just to chisel marble
>Maintain my physical condition with just a couple of days lifting and 15k runs every 3 days or so

You're not meant to live in muh demons monk mode long term, you get in, fuck your shit up for a year and then get out before mental illness sets in.

Seriously, fuck what anyone else says, if you look at your body after years in the gym and aren't happy, you're either severely mentally ill, or you haven't been working.

As long as you are lean and you work on building the areas you want to, you should love how you look.

>>76477191
it's not easy but it is simple, and you'd learn the same thing in CBT, if you're afraid of talking to people/girls, they will literally hand hold/shadow you while you talk to people, just once at first, but then gradually more and more

if you want a degree but can't study, they will have you focus on an academic task for a few minutes at first, and then gradually build your tolerance to entire academic projects and prove to you that you can do them

if you want a better job or a raise or whatever, they will guide you through those conversations, conflict, risk tolerance, etc

the common denominator in all this though is the progressive overload of action, the exact same principle that applies in lifting, applies in everything else in life, and you don't even need CBT to learn that (though it can absolutely help and there's no shame in that)

it's not easy, like how lifting heavy weight isn't easy, but it is simple, you just lift lighter weight until you can go heavier.

gd do i hate blackpill incels i wanna crush em all like the bugs they are

>>76475890
>>76475720
Thats a deep seated issue a lot of us need to deal with. Its not healthy because you’re chasing external validation from a “hot girl”. Instead look to fullfill this feeling of being good enough by being the greatest version of yourself. Or fuck hot hookers that are expensive snd see what women are just annoyance attached to a warm vagina.

>>76460502
Volunteer
Volunteer at your local emergency medical services. Save lives!

>>76475890
Literally me

>>76458305 (OP)
you forgot the part about journalling, working on your mindset, prayer/gratitude
>No motivation, just resentment. Just existential dread.
definitely reading the wrong books
>>>/biz/

>>76458305 (OP)
>>eat 5 bombaclaat eggs

>>76458305 (OP)
You're not going to get a job in "devops" with any combination of comptia certs.

>>76459973
He gave you about the most realistic and utilitarian answer possible. Get the fuck out of here with your fag shit. Your gay hypothetical is some bullshit a girl would try to spin up and then psychoanalyze. I hate pseuds so much.

>>76458305 (OP)
How are you staying afloat at the moment ?

>>76459973
settle down, Peter Pan

>>76458305 (OP)
>>in order to work for some stupid boss
>>in order to earn stupid fucking FIAT toilet paper money
>>in order to buy stupid consoomer slop
bronze age mindset talks about this, world is fake and gay and designed to fuck you from all angles
https://archive.org/details/bronze-age-pervert-bronze-age-mindset-2018

>le bronzoid faggot talks about this
lol
lmao, even

>>76480211
Post some other books that relate to this topic

>>76480230
go download the syllabus of one (1) first-year Philosophy course, you dumb faggot

>>76477975
what is BAP?

>>76480238
List us some books by philosophers that would be in a 100 level philosophy course that talk about this subject specifically. You can, can't you?

>>76480249
>yeah well uh nobody else has ever written about post-modern ennui and the soul-crushing nature of wageslavery
I can and I won't. You need to learn to stop Consooming obvious slop from twitter alcoholics.

>>76480248
Bronze Age Pervert. They posted his book here
>>76480135
Basically a disgruntled Ivy League professor obsessed with Friedrich Nietzsche that was posting insane shit on twitter and developed a huge cult following and then was doxxed

>>76480260
You won't because you can't, I don't know who you're trying to fool.

>>76480135
Most important part of this is him pointing out that Darwin can't explain animals refusing to breed in captivity even though life is supposedly just about reproducing by any means necessary. OP is miserable even though all of his material needs are met, but he's like a zoo animal or livestock with no control over the world around him. Higher evolved animals, especially predators, demand power and freedom in order to want to live and reproduce.

>>76480248
>Costin Vlad Alamariu (May 21, 1980–)[3] is a Romanian-American nudist, self-described anti-xenoestrogen activist, homophobe and misogynistic anti-semite popularly known for his far-right internet personality, Bronze Age Pervert or BAP.[4][5] On his Twitter account, Alamariu has sexually harassed female journalists by posting images of muscular nude men and asking them if they want to be impregnated.[6]
>Alamariu self-published Bronze Age Mindset in 2018. The book contains misogynist racist hogwash:[8] Misogyny is woven throughout the book. In one passage he declares that “the ‘liberation’ of women makes democracy into a terminal disease […] one that doesn’t just end a particular government, but the civilization.” In later passages of Bronze Age Mindset, the hatred is for migrants: “dwarf-like zombies are imported for slave labor and political agitation from the fly-swept latrines of the world.” According to such visions, a chosen few are conferred the right to fight against this mediocre ugliness — a form of violence justified by and rooted in a particular image of nature.

>>76480281
>t. has never read a real book in his adult life
midwit cope.

>>76480441
Post some

>>76480343
>Alamariu has sexually harassed female journalists by posting images of muscular nude men and asking them if they want to be impregnated
kek so this is now the bar for sexual assault. Hard to imagine anyone not being a rapist these days.

>>76480458
>pwease pwease PWEASE do my homework for me
I'll fuck your woman for you, but that's the best I can offer.

>>76480486
>Doing everything but posting some
LMAO

>>76480135
You should kill yourself if given the chance.

>>76478445
NTA but I have HIV and I give blood regularly.

another beautiful day that inherently meant nothing and yet during which i made meaning of my own volition. thank you hashem

>>76473763
How can I learn IT shit at home as a NEET? I just want a freakin job. I'm 27 but I'm not depressed and refuse to give up. My city has a program that the gov pays for ur university if ur unemployed and I wanna do it for IT but the apply thing only opens up next year.

>>76469991
unironically good advice OP

>>76468154
>>76468639
Reminds me of a passage from My Ishmael

>Among her friends in college," Ishmael began, "my benefactor, Rachel Sokolow, counted a young man named Jeffrey, whose father was an affluent surgeon. Jeffrey became and important person in many lives at this time and later, because he presented people with a problem. He couldn't figure our what to do with himself. He was physically attractive, intelligent, personable, and talented at almost anything he turned his hand to. He could play the guitar well, though he had no interest in a musical career. He could take a good photograph, produce a good sketch, play the lead in a school play, and write an entertaining story or a provocative essay, but he didn't want to be a photographer, an artist, an actor, or a writer. He did will in all his classed but didn't want to be a teacher or a scholar and wasn't interested in following his father's footsteps or in pursuing a career in law, the sciences, mathematics, business, or politics. He was drawn to things of the spirit and was an occasional churchgoer but didn't care to become a theologian or a clergyman. In spite of all this, he seemed 'well-adjusted,' as it's called. He wasn't notably phobic or depressive or neurotic. He wasn't doubtful or confused about his sexual orientation. He figured he'd settle down and marry one day, but not until he'd found some purpose in life.

>>76481117
Cont.

>Jeffrey's friends never tired of finding new ideas to present to him in hopes of awakening his interest. Wouldn't he enjoy reviewing films for the local newspaper? Had he ever thought of taking up scrimshaw or jewelry making? Cabinetry was put forward as a soul-satisfying occupation. How about fossil hunting? Gourmet cooking? Maybe he should get into Scouting. Or wouldn't it be fun to go on an archeological dig? Jeffrey's father was completely sympathetic with his inability to discover and enthusiasm and ready to support him in whatever exploration he might find worthwhile. If a world tour had any appeal, a travel agent would be put to work on it. If he wanted to try the life of any outdoorsman, equipment would be supplied, gladly. If he wanted to take to the sea, a boat would be made ready. If he wanted to try his hand at pottery, he'd have a kiln waiting for him. Even if he just wanted to be a social butterfly, that would be fine. He shrugged it all off, politely, embarrassed to be putting everyone to so much trouble.
"I don't want to give you the impression that he was lazy or spoiled. He was always at the top of his class, always held a part-time job, lived in ordinary student housing, didn't own a car. He just looked at the world that was on offer to him and couldn't see a single thing in it worth having. His friends kept saying to him, 'Look, you can't go on this way. You've got too much going for you. You've just got to get some ambition, got to find something you want to do with your life!'
"Jeffrey graduated with honors but without a direction. After hanging around his father's house for the summer, he went to visit some college friends who had just gotten married. He took along his knapsack, his guitar, and his journal. After a few weeks he set out to visit some other friends, hitchhiking.

>>76481117
>>76481123
Cont

>He was in no hurry. He stopped along the way, helped some people who were building a barn, earned enough money to keep going, eventually reached his next destination. Soon it was getting on for winter and he headed home. He and his father had long conversations, played his rummy, played pool, played tennis, watched football, drank beer, read books, went to movies.
"When spring came, Jeffrey bought a secondhand car and set out to visit friends in the other direction. People took him in wherever he went. They liked him and felt sorry for him, he was so rootless, so ineffectual, so unfocused. But they didn't give up on him. One person wanted to buy him a video camera so he could make a film of his wandering. Jeffrey wasn't interesting. Another person volunteered to send his poetry around to magazines to see if anyone would publish it. Jeffrey said that was fine, but personally, he didn't care one way or the other. After working at a boys' camp for the summer, he was asked to stay on as a permanent member of the staff, but it didn't appeal to him that much.
"When winter came, his father talked him into seeing a psychotherapist he knew and trusted. Jeffrey stuck with it throughout the winter, going three times a week, but in the end the therapist had to admit that, apart from being 'a little immature,' there was nothing whatever wrong with him. Asked what 'a little immature' meant, the therapist said Jeffrey was unmotivated, unfocused, and lacked goals - everything they already knew. 'He'll find something in a year or two,' the therapist predicted. 'And it'll probably be something very obvious. I'm sure it's staring him in the face right now, and he just doesn't see it.' When spring came, Jeffrey went back out on the road, and if something was staring him in the face, he went on being unable to see it.

>>76481117
>>76481123
>>76481125
Cont.

>"The years drifted by in this way. Jeffrey watched old friends get married, raise children, build careers, build businesses, win a little fame here, a little fortune there... while he went on playing his guitar writing a poem now and then, and filling one journal after another. Just last spring he celebrated his thirty-first birthday with friends at a vacation cottage a lake in Wisconsin. In the morning he walked down to the water, wrote a few lines in his journal, then waded into the lake and drowned himself"

>>76458305 (OP)
I got layed off recently, have good job leads but I am enjoying the freedom again way too much. I feel like I'm getting soft and there's only one life to live, but rotting in an office for (what some call good pay) that doesn't even let me properly support a family nor have a home seems like a sick fucking joke.

you all feel unfulfilled because you know you're taxcattle with no control over anything in this world so nothing you do matters anyway
>but muh hobbies
hilarious that anyone could think it's possible to derive meaning from shit like this except for the most autistic obsessives
>but muh wife and children
not your wife. government owns her, she's married to the state. children, even if biologically yours, are functionally wards of the state 50% of the time and you can't even legally discipline them in your own home
>but muh religion
you should definitely be paying 10% of your money to some con man sex predator on top of what you pay in taxes to the state, good little sheepie. remember to forgive those who steal from you and humiliate you and dominate while you're at it HAHAHAH

>>76458305 (OP)
>in order to earn stupid fucking FIAT toilet paper money
so there's an old fuck named jerome powell who basically just decides that your money should be worth less and then devalues it. money that you've poured years of your life into becomes worthless at the whims of your masters. oh and they're replacing you with cheaper brown people lol. you should take some more vitamin supplements brah maybe that'll help with your depression and feelings of hopelessness

>>76481117
>>76481123
>>76481125
>>76481130
At least Jeffrey had friends. I hope I don't have to wait that long to muster up the courage to do the same.

>>76481170
Don't listen to that cloying faggot shit lol, none of that happened, it's fiction.

Everybody's telling you guys you need pussy or money or "hobbies" or religion to be happy when what you actually need is just male friends. Good ones. Everything important that's ever been achieved was by brotherhoods of men.

>>76481180
this is absolutely true, somewhat. i wouldnt say specifically it needs to be friends, because plenty of men are happy without friends as long as they have a wife and kids. but social relationships are absolutely more important than pussy, money or hobbies or religion.

>>76473177
Hey man.
What you dis was the first step. You were very courageous to face the situation.

Do you exercice? Do you eat well? Take care of those 2, and it will give you enough of a momentum to tackle getting some job, doesn't matter what it is, but it will put you out of the darkness and will be the medecine you need.

:) Everyone has their own struggles, they don't necessarily share them nor do they show them to other people. Whatever you're going through God knows you have the capacity to surmount it, otherwise that would negate his Justice and Knowledge. You have parents that listen to you and cherish your life. There's more to say but I'll stop.

Everyone can sing a rich man's song.

>>76481180
genuinely so retard the way they expect to achieve success by themselves, competing against the whole world.

>>76459953
Owning a business is fucking gay and the work literally never ends. If you want financial independence learn a trade that you can get paid well for on the books and also do some side jobs here and there. Then you can just take a lay off whenever ya want and when you need money again, get back to work.

>>76481185
>a wife and kids.
Not fulfilling for any man that's high T. Any great men of the past would've found it incredibly comical to see a man whose highest goal is "good husband and father." It was for slaves

>>76475720
Sex outside of marriage is corruption. Now that you know the devil plays men with women so you stay astray, will you save yourself?

>>76480575
Well you are giving aid(s) to people in need, grats??

>>76481204
>Super rabbi says that sex is le bad
Whoa
>>76475720
1. Get over paralyzing FOMO, not just for this but for anything
2. If you believe it's worthwhile then work towards it. It sounds like you really don't believe it's worthwhile though

Man, I read the entire thread and I have to tell you, I hate you all motherfuckers itt so god damn much.
Fuck you, truly. I hate you losers who take great personalized advice posted by anons itt for granted. It should have been me who is posting here and getting advice. It should have beeeen me who is cared for.

It should have been me who is getting multiple people worried about his mental health state. Many 3-post long replies even from multiple people with amazing advice. How long does it even take to write a 4k-6k word post? an hour when its though out? More?
It should be me who gets dozens of hours of attentions and kindness but don't bother to even to reply to them because I am le tired and depressed.
I really wish to convey this. The amount of care you get and take for granted is unfair, it should have been directed at me instead. All these good boy points should be mine.

All my relationships are one-sided where I am the rock. GF, family, friends. Holy fucking shit nigger even my co-workers rely on me for advice. I AM A BITCH TOO, I AM SAD TOO, I GET TIRED TOO. WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING ME?
Just got back a few hours ago from cheeking up on a zoomer coworker after a deep long talk with him a few weeks prior (hes melting due to pressure hes feeling, typical young adult stuff). The talk helped greatly, obviously. He feels amazing, he is not worried anymore. He took my advice, practised it and literally his entire problematic family situation is fixed. I LIVE FOR THESE THINGS. I ENJOY THEM IMMENSELY, SEEING ANOTHER PERSON GROW IS THE BEST FEELING YET, BEING PRAISED FOR IT IS THE BEST. WHAT A TRULY WORTHWHILE IDEAL TO STRIVE TO. BUT WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEE FUCK.

I am stuck and so full of it I've had enough. Irregardless of the above, tomorrow will come and I will put on good face. Tomorrow I will let others lean on me again. Tomorrow I will still be terrified that my only worth is in this, and I won't open to anyone.

Sincerely,
FUCK YOU
Good day, Fitness.

>>76481237
take it easy bwo *smooch* :)

>>76460030
>2/3 of your awake time
40 hours per week is only about a third of your awake time.

>wake up in my government paid flat
>brush teeth, do laundry (20m at max)
>login.png
>ahh hello fellow unemployed neet chads!
>16 hour gamign sesh starts, grab some nuts, put some frozen pizza in our pauses
>good night chads!
>repeat

Just don't be a thirdie? idk

>>76481567
if you sleep for 9 hours, awake time = 15 hours
15 - 8 (work) = 7
7 - 2 (commute) = 5h free time
which leaves us with 10 hours of work.
10 = 15*(2/3)

>>76481622
>frozen pizza
fucking disgusting
just buy the pre-made pizza dough and ingredients and it'll take you an extra four minutes and taste much better

>>76480923
I did a few courses on Coursera/code academy, spammed leetcode questions, and most of all I built a shitty portfolio of a few mock websites that I was able to show during my interviews. If you're interested in webdev in particular look into concepts like Fullstack, continuous development, Kubernetes, Jenkins, Unit tests, Functional tests
I wouldn't recommend it (especially now), I didn't learn shit compared to what people learn in college. So definitely do that university thing in your city. But do spam some maths if you're going to, CS degrees tend to be pretty math heavy in the first year (that's where most people drop out)

>>76481237
Do you understand that your exact predicament is what's driving young men away from society
We would be willing to bear the weight of the world if we got the bare minimum in return - a virgin wife, a big family, a supportive community, a decent, dignified job at every strata of society that allowed us to support our family with a single income.
What you are doing is that you are taking on this burden for none of the reward. You are being given all the responsibility without any of the authority. You are a slave to the system.

>>76481237
As someone who wrote several post advising anons itt, I want to tell you this from the bottom of my heart: Fuck you, you sound like a terrible person.