Thread 76459152

Do not ask for an easier burden, but the strength to carry it

You can ask for an easier burden. OP psosted eisegesis

I just want an opportunity to prove myself

>>76459207
Every day is a new opportunity bro

>>76459152 (OP)
>>76459219
I LOVE JESUS!
Every time I feel down and start to beat myself up there He is to lift me back up and tell me to keep going and that He loves me!

>>76459292
Wow this jesus guy sounds pretty cool

bump

>>76459152 (OP)
I WANT MORE BURDENS MORE MOOORE

>>76460673
>>76459292
Based

>>76459292
how can you get jesus to love you

>>76460673
this but unironically

>>76459152 (OP)
>but the strength to carry it
Yet He doesn't provide it so I want to be healed instead. Don't get that either, of course. How convenient.

>>76460800
He just does, that's how Jesus goes.

>>76460915
Carry your cross anon and take it from there

>>76460915
Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs in the kingdom of heaven

>>76460915
Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

>>76461018
Ask and you shall receive

>>76461012
>>76461040
So literally nothing...

errrrr ......you ARE doing 1 extra rep for Jesus at the end of eat set, aren't you brothers?

>>76460915
>>76461315
You saying these things shows you don’t want to accept God, you already have hardened your heart
God isn’t a magic genie or a button you press to get whatever you want
YOU still need to do it, YOU still need to grow and develop, YOU still need to work to get stronger
God can help you, He can take your stress and pain away from you, but YOU still need to live your life and make of it what is right

>>76461609
Are you a psychic?

The biggest christfags have the easiest burdens to carry. But you, anon, are the one who must suffer for Christ almighty. Would you give up your burdens if you were able to? If so, then you never believed they were Christ's journey for you. Would you take anyone else's burden, in order to be closer with Christ? Of course not, because you know it's all a fucking cope.

>>76461836
No I’m not
However, I understand that the way you have engaged the topic of Christ is one of dishonesty and having your heart closed off to it entirely
>>76461939
>Would you give up your burdens if you were able to?
As much as I say I do, ultimately I wouldn’t
Because it is the burdens we have and the suffering and daily falls we go through that allow us to get back up and become stronger and learn more about ourselves, which bring us closer to Christ and the Saints
>Would you take anyone else's burden, in order to be closer with Christ
Christians are not called to do that
Yes, we are called to help people in easing their pain and burdens, but you cannot take it from them entirely
Just as how we cannot ever truly be rid of our own burdens, because it is the nature of humanity and the flesh

>>76462059
>is one of dishonesty and having your heart closed off to it entirely
So being disappointed is being dishonest? If that's not a projection then I don't know what is. Of course people wouldn't feel so positive when things don't go their way.

>>76459152 (OP)
The entire message of the religion of Christianity is that you can't actually carry your burden, so you just put it on someone else. I never understood these poses.

>>76462059
Everything you said is straight conjecture or outright refusal to answer the hypothetical.

>>76459152 (OP)
Based but keep in mind Church Fathers disliked gymnastics

>>76462796
did they? because it was done nude or just in general?

i dont believe in exercising intensely for longevity anyway, most old people just chill and have low stress.

Its 2025
There is no need to scam people with religion anymore
You can be a good person without Jesus helping you out

>>76459152 (OP)
only god bring gains

>>76462904
IIRC It was due to it being mere vanity and depriving you time and energy from praying

>>76462942
is that true though? it prepares you for war, especially in those times with all the prosecution stronger Christians would be more reliable no?

Not even 1 hour a week?

I just got laid off today

>>76462947
>it prepares you for war
Yeah, about that war thing... They didn't like it also
I guess it could pass as maintenment but as far my knowledge on the matter (not a lot lol) your work should cover that already

>>76462577
You being disappointed is because you had a false view of God and set your expectations to be the truth
It’s your fault, but that’s okay because we all do wrong and fall short, even myself
>>76462782
>you didn’t answer my hypothetical the way you were supposed to!!!

>>76459152 (OP)
BASED

>>76460800
He already does. You gotta open the door and let Him in though. Devote yourself entirely to Jesus and He will take care of everything. There a lot of stuff that at the time I wouldn't have chosen it for myself but looking back I'm like, Thanks Jesus, You knew what was going on.
Come have eternal life and know the peace of the Lord.

>>76459152 (OP)
Did you know Jesus was a Jew?

>>76462918
>You can be a good person without Jesus helping you out
So where are all the supposed good people in the world today?

>>76463013
Yeah I know what you'd like to do. You'd like to find the guy who did it, rip his still beating heart out of his chest and hold it in front of his face so he can see how black it is before he dies.
>Actually, I was thinking of filing a grievance with the union.
Well, the world's a twisted place.

>>76463488
Yeah, you're right. People were only good way back in the day when during the crusades and chaining people up and setting them on fire because they had a different religion.

>>76463488
I see them everywhere in day to day life

>>76463525
>during the crusades
Entirely justified and good
>chaining people up and setting them on fire because they had a different religion.
The rates that this happened are exaggerated by media
And the cases of such things happenjng were performed by the secular state and its secular authority, not religious entities or organizations
>>76463528
By what standard are they good? By what authority? Yours? Their own?
Morality is objective
If everyone just follows their own standard of what is “good” then people just do whatever they want and chaos happens (which is what is happening now)

>>76463654

>>everyone just follows their own standard of what is “good” then people just do whatever they want and chaos happens (which is what is happening now)

"Chaos" is forcing retarded baby mammas to have children who turn into future murderers and rapists who then perpetuate the cycle.

>>76459152 (OP)
Im not a christcuck so i dont ask for shit. I just make shit happen

>>76459194
>he believes a pure exegetic reading is possible of texts derived from greek and judaic mysticism
ngmi into heaven

>>76463865
>interpretation is hard
>therefore making shit up is just as true

>>76463062
>you had a false view
So you're trying to say that He can't instantly heal me even though he did it to a slave that not only didn't believe and didn't see Him but it was also at a request of his master.

>>76463062
>you had a false view
So you're trying to say that He can't instantly heal me even though He healed a slave that not only didn't believe and didn't see Him but it was also at a request of his master.

>>76463823
Yes, that is exactly what I said
Chaos happens when people decide what they believe subjectively is good and do whatever they want
>>76463948
What Christ did thousands of years ago to prove His divinity in His ministry does not automatically mean that everyone who asks God will instantly be healed at the snap of a finger
Again, you are viewing God like He is a magic lamp or a button you can rub or press and just get whatever you want
Already, with that mentality, you are not going to get what you want because it is not aligned with what God wants and what is part of His plan for everything and everyone
You are coming to God with a smug prideful mentality of “God should give me exactly what I want when I say it!” Which guess what? That isn’t how God works
If God does not grant it, then you do not need it, and if you do not need it, then you look towards things God has given you and you continue to grow in faith and you learn from what God is trying to show you or say to you
Also you are confusing your Gospel accounts
Jesus heals a few blind men, but neither of them had a master, and they all express their faith in Christ, and there was a slave Jesus did heal who worked under a Roman Centurion (who begged to Jesus to heal his servant, showing a great placement of faith) due to him being paralyzed from a disease

>>76464063
>with a smug prideful mentality
How do you know that?
>Luke 7:2 and 7:10 refer to the person to be healed as δοῦλος (doûlos), unambiguously meaning "slave"
But it's whatever, the point still stands.

>>76463919
>I have no personal connection to the divine
>so I must de-personify readings of sacred texts
>umm it’s called ‘interpretation’
Exegesis is for soulets

>>76464116
>How do you know that?
Because you have false expectations and expect God to do what you want when you want it
Instead of you putting your faith in God and trusting in God’s plan for you and continue to walk in that faith and do good, you talk about God “disappointed” you and how things “dont go your way” because you have pride and want God to meet your needs instead of you trying to meet God’s Word

>>76464162
>to do what you want when you want it
So just two more weeks you say?

Thank you Jesus

>>76464166
What?

>>76464177
Just two more weeks and things would change you say? How do you know how long did I try?

>>76464182
It doesn’t matter how long it takes
What matters is your intent and your heart
If you treat God like a magic lamp or button that you think you can just get whatever you want when you ask for it, then you aren’t going to get anything from God
You are treating God as a tool for your own gain, and God is not that, He does not like that
You trust in God, and if it doesn’t happen, then God has other plans in mind for you and you keep going in life, that is it

>>76464218
>It doesn’t matter how long it takes
My supposed best years are behind me, I can't wait forever.
>What matters is your intent and your heart
>magic lamp or button that you think you can just get whatever you want when you ask for it
>as a tool for your own gain
How do you know that, again?
>has other plans in mind for you and you keep going in life, that is it
Once again you have no idea what you're talking about, you probably forgot what the topic is even.

>>76462918
>It's current year
That's so 4th century desu

NGL, Frog with the lord … touched.

>>76464227
>My supposed best years are behind me, I can't wait forever.
You could wait as long as God wants you to wait, especially if you don’t have faith
>How do you know that, again?
I already explained how I know
You are being dishonest and are not engaging in good faith (ironic)

>>76464237
>You are being dishonest and are not engaging in good faith
Yep, I'm dishonest and not engaging in good faith even though you're the clairvoyant.

>>76464264
I didn’t say I was clairvoyant
You expressed statements that led me to my conclusion that you refuse to actually address and clear up which leads me to further believe I am right in it and you don’t want to engage honestly

>>76464269
>that you refuse to actually address
Like?

>>76464273
That you are treating God like a magic button that you think you can get whatever you want from by just asking for it, hence the start of the discussion being with you bringing up Jesus healing the servant instantly on request
>inb4 how do you know that
Circular arguing, intellectually dishonest and purposefully being difficult

>>76464280
>like a magic button that you think you can get whatever you want from by just asking for it
I never said that.
>hence the start of the discussion being with you bringing up Jesus healing the servant instantly on request
I mentioned it because He would that for other people while He wouldn't for me no longer how much I wait or do.

>>76464285
>I never said that.
You just did
>He wouldn't for me no longer how much I wait or do.

>>76464306
>You just did
I just did what. That's not expecting something to just happen.

>>76464313
>God wouldn’t do what I want even though I did what I thought I was suppsoed to do for a certain amount of time
>I did this thing for so long, where is my reward?
God does not work like this

>>76464323
>my reward
Wanting the bare minimum that other people have already is hardly a reward. And it's difficult to expect consistent faith without it.

>>76464328
Then you are treating God like a magic button or a genie, and because you didn’t get what you wanted (because God doesnt work that way) you got upset or “disappointed” and walked away instead of maybe shifting your heart and priorities to other things that God maybe wants you to focus on

>>76464333
>maybe wants you to focus on
Like? I asked for that numerous time yet nothing was revealed as far as I remember.

>>76463013
When a door closes new ones open up.

>>76464335
I don’t know, it’s your life and your things
I’m not clairvoyant remember?
God is on His time and His plan, you need to set your expectations to God and trusting in Him
But instead, you set your own expectations of what you think God should do and then it didn’t happen so you got upset
You set your focus on this supposed slight that God did and didn’t open yourself up to other opportunities or new focuses; you hardened your heart

>>76464347
>I don’t know
That was not towards you...
>did and didn’t open yourself up to other opportunities or new focuses; you hardened your heart
But I did, they were not revealed. If anything things were only getting worse.

>>76464352
Okay? Things got bad
You suck it up and keep going and you trust in God to get you through it
The Christian life isn’t easy, all your problems aren’t going to go away and you never get sick and you win a million dollars and you get everything you ever wanted
It sucks sometimes, it really fucking sucks, but you hold onto faith and you keep going, carrying your cross like Christ did
Maybe it was a test of faith? Do you still believe and keep praying and have faith if things start to fall apart around you? Do you still go to God even if it seems like things are being taken from you?
It happens, sometimes we get through it, and sometimes we fail
But we just need to pick ourselves back up and keep going down the path towards our salvation

>>76464360
>and you win a million dollars and you get everything you ever wanted
I have never said anything like that, you're a very dishonest person.
>it really fucking sucks
It doesn't suck, it becomes impossible.

>>76464360
NTA but everything is bad. It's bad and it is getting worse and I'm ready for God to pop up especially when most of the problems were cause by supposed Christians.
>bro just have faith that things will get better even though the area you've lived in the past 10 years has more homeless people, drug addicts, nigs, and good behind bars than ever before.

Life is good, actually

>>76464370
Im not dishonest Im just giving hyperbole of things that would mean everything is going right for you
>it becomes impossible.
Matthew 19:26
With men this is impossible: but with God all things are possible.
>>76464375
You can have faith AND also be active in making things better for yourself and those around you
Faith and works and that
God isn’t just going to drop it in your lap, you gotta get up and fight for it
If the area you live in is a violent hellhole, then get together with your people to fix it and God willing He will see it through

>>76464401
>If the area you live in is a violent hellhole, then get together with your people to fix it and God willing He will see it through
Yes because somehow I'm going to be the 1 to fix what countless others have tried to do. I'll be the 1 who can fix Detroit.
>inb4 you never know :))))
There's a difference between being realistic and living in fantasy la-la land

>>76464401
>mean everything is going right for you
Where did I said that this is my want?
>all things are possible
Then why is nothing changing, positively?

>>76464409
You certainly try to do something
Whining about it on an anonymous Tibetan fishing forum won’t fix it
>There's a difference between being realistic and living in fantasy la-la land
Okay, then do nothing, see where that gets you
>>76464414
>Where did I said that this is my want?
You just did
>Then why is nothing changing, positively?
Because sometimes that’s what happens, it’s the result of living in a fallen world full of evil people, and it’s in these moments that we need to have faith, true faith, that God will help us, even so slightly, to get out of our situation
But again, it requires us to act, to get up and try to make things better
God isn’t going to fix everything with the snap of a finger and drop everything in your lap
You want things to be better, go get it, and God will be there to take your worries and anxieties away and strengthen you

>>76464438
>to get out of our situation
Which doesn't happen. What you proposed afterwards can happen by itself too.

>>76464438
>Okay, then do nothing, see where that gets you
And you've done what exactly?

>>76459152 (OP)
Spiritual jews worshiping their ancestor's usurpers asking their favorite jew teacher to drop their weights

>>76464409
Doesnt sound very christian, christians delayed retaliation against the continued rapes on christian women by muslims for hundreds of years.

christians arent doing shit, never will and has no equivalent answer to Soldiers of Odin & Active Club

>>76464401
Doesnt sound very christian, christians delayed retaliation against the continued rapes on christian women by muslims for hundreds of years.

christians arent doing shit, never will and has no equivalent answer to Soldiers of Odin, NMR & Active Club

>>76459207
you did prove yourself to your jew Yeshua and Cephas, all the first jewish converts and all 12 jewish apostles by overlooking the fact that you are worshiping a jewish rabbi that continuously destroyed sacred sites of your ancestors since the 2nd century at the expense of the taxes on the backs of your poor peasant ancestor

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.

>>76462947
>>76462942
>>76462796
1 Timothy 4:8
8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.

>>76465404
>>76465414
John 4:22
You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

>>76464168
This

>>76463654
>Morality is objective
No its not
>If everyone just follows their own standard of what is “good” then people just do whatever they want and chaos happens (which is what is happening now)
But we don't have chaos, we live in a very stable society considering its size, why? Because we use subjective morals that have developed by living together with other humans and many of these morals have been used for laws that keep everything going

>>76466053
>>Morality is objective
>No its not
Explain why and also explain what ethics you follow and any religion?

>>76466053
youre almost making it sound like society is somehow a new concept like a plato baby just bought her first book
we had stronger civilizations before the 10th century, the only main differences was the lack of banks which allowed christianity to grow.

>>76466077
I have never read a book about anything useful
>we had stronger cilizations before
Doesn't really matter, we don't live in chaos now and our civilization is by all metrics working well, could it be better? Yes, could it be worse? Oh yeah

>>76466070
Morality depends on your upbringing and culture and the people you live with, my ethics are simple, don't do anything bad to people that don't deserve it

>>76466104
>don't do anything bad to people that don't deserve it
Ok who is the arbiter of "bad" and how do you define "bad"?
What do they have to do and not do to "deserve it"?

>>76466120
Everyone is the arbiter of what is good or bad, I think most would agree that causing unnecessary suffering to others is bad
And what people have to do to deserve what is just infinitely complicated and would require a case by case analysis

>>76466104
we dont live in chaos ? i live with weekly bombings, rape/assualt and children being attacked by muslims.
we used to live in a society where these culprits were hanged or exiled and we were allowed to murder exiles to redeem lost honor.

this is christianity in a nutshell, chaos masked behind a veil of christian tolerance.

>>76466134
Well I was mostly talking about america, I think swedes are kinda cucked
But crime happens even in stable societies and its not chaos, you're chilling at home or at work and you can post on 4chan
The majority, the vast majority of people are just fine, this is the opposite of chaos

>>76466133
Yeah that's not gonna work in practise, you say most but what about sadists causing others harm which is good from their subjective pov.
Moral relativism isn't a good framework. You should read some more philosophy and ethics.

Also check out Molymeme's UPB, universally preferred ethics, if you want secular ethics that are actually good. It's free.

freedomain.com/freedomain_books/universally-preferable-behaviour-a-rational-proof-of-secular-ethics/

>>76466149
its the same fucking thing in america ffs, we are in fact becoming your god damn melting pot that youve become so used to that that it seems normal to you now.
You went from fucking pure white european in the 1960s to a bunch of half-white mystery meats today who gets dumber with each fucking generation,
the difference is that Swedes move out of their own countries/neighborhoods as soon as they get a chance or moving further north.

just delaying the inevitable of becoming just like you.

>>76466186
Its literally working in practice though
>Sadists
Well that's unfortunate for them but the majority of people are not okay with that so they're the ones who have to deal with it
Mentally ill people are a perfect example of why moralism is subjective

>>76464448
Your mentality is what causes nothing to happen, you sit and stew in negativity and yell at God for not doing anything when you’re the one not doing anything to try and fix whatever you are going through
>>76464490
I try, it may not be much, but I just try
Try to encourage people around me to get together to do something, to encourage fighting back, to think about securing a family and a home, to fight for a better life
You’ll say it’s cope or whatever, but in my eyes I am still trying to help people see things better, to bring them to a life of God and action
And for fixing Detroit, I do not know, it requires a massive fix, a complete rehaul, pull up the roots
But I believe it can be fixed, it can happen, you whine about how nothing happens and everything sucks and it’s all worthless
I have hope, because it’s what God wants
>>76465343
Retaliating to protect your family and nation is a Christian value, sorry you’ve been fed the wrong message about the faith by its enemies
Christianity encourages the survival of cultures and nations, of people and identity
The “Christians” who protected the Muslim rape gangs are not Christian, the furthest thing from it

>>76459152 (OP)
That is literally the same thing, asking for more strength makes it easier, it's the same thing if you asked for an easier burden, ultimately you are asking for things to be easier.

>>76466381
It is the same through a different mode
One requires growth and pushing through hard times, and the other requires taking things away to make it easier and encourages comfort

>>76466385
Growth can't be found in comfort, if things get easier growth stops, if anything the right thing to ask for is endurance to endure no matter how hard.

>>76466245
>Mentally ill people are a perfect example of why moralism is subjective
That is why you need objective standards which apply universally, not subjective mob rule like you suggest. You are a retard.

>>76466452
>you need
No, seems like things worked out great so far on a large scale

>>76466381
No you just add more burdens, progressively overload

>>76466475
Provide some examples then, if you think everything is so great

>>76466507
Do I really need to provide examples to show that quality of life has been greater than ever before for the majority of people in our generation?

>>76466519
Yes you do, back up your argument with facts.

>>76466528
No I'm good, I'm not interested in arguments where one party just completely ignores reality, but then again it's my mistake for even trying to argue about something in a christian themed thread, ignoring reality is probably normal

>>76466538
So you have no arguments and you are a smug reddit atheist, got it. How pathetic.

>>76466367
Huh, by the enemies ?
Christianity is the same thing as judaism or are you some weirdo who believe in pseudo-history of British israelism ?
why dont any of you fucking americans know history ?

>>76466367
Huh, by the enemies ?
Christianity is the same thing as judaism or are you some weirdo who believe in pseudo-history of British israelism ?
why dont any of you fucking americans know history, christianity has been both destroying aand subverting European culture & identity since the 2nd century.

youre even talking as if christianity any new culture, bizarre bug brain behavior

>>76466528
Pre-christian Europe praised by Roman emperors for our strong moral code, values as seen in our sense of loyality and marriage.
As Europe was forced into christianization that got more and more brutal since the 7th century and ramped up further in the 10th century,
Christian phenomenons like Mylings struck fear in the hearts of christian peasants as Europe devolved into sexual promiscuity with a guilt-based group identity

Some 30-40.000 children sold by the catholic church, nuns were raped and forced into abortion for the christian church to save face.
People who had scientific knowledge that defy church belief and similar based on chemistry, biology or philosophy too.

only around the 16th century did christianity begin to ease the burden of the average peasant while church officials still knocked doors to diagnose peasant's religious awareness.

>>76466602
>Christianity is the same thing as judaism
Literally no
Someone doesn’t understand Christianity or it’s history and only believes what was said by its enemies
>christianity has been both destroying aand subverting European culture & identity since the 2nd century.
Christianity built Europe and the western world as we know it
You can have a European identity and culture and still be Christian, in fact many do it with their own cultural identity and have done it throughout history, going back to the beginning when Christianity began
And again, the “Christians” you refer to that are destroying Europe are not Christian, they are Jews or zionists or satan worshippers or just people trying to get power (all the same thing) who are using Christianity as a guise (using the Lord’s name in vain)
Again, the true teachings of Christianity uphold cultural identity and encourage the survival of those cultures and nations and its people

>>76466367
>I try, it may not be much, but I just try
>doesn't list specifics
So you get off on shitposting? I'm half tempted to say this shit is AI generated. What do you do specifically in your community that has been observable, tangible differences?

>>76466710
I asked, what enemies ? (which you ignored) christianity is literally the fucking crutch of judaism and always has been.
Christianity comes from the middle east, from the jews jesus and cephas just like all the first converts & 12 apostles.

and again, another christian who has no knowledge of european history, people were executing in the thousands, murdered unarmed for refusing conversion.
happened again and again and again through the 7th to 8th century and continued to get increasingly more brutal in the 10th century after pagan military fell.

you keep making baseless assumptions out of thin air that has no historical/theological backing.
jews arent satan worshippers, the jews are more straight line and honest worshippers than fucking christians.

>>76466774
>What do you do specifically in your community that has been observable, tangible differences?
I do community work at my church, have family events around the neighborhood to bring people together, I help people whenever I can
Is that not good enough for you? Should I start a militia and lead a coup and overthrow the local government?
Do you do that?
Do you try at all no matter how big or small?
>>76466784
>I asked, what enemies ? (which you ignored)
Someone didn’t read my post then, I very clearly stated who the enemies of Christianity and the world are towards the end
>christianity is literally the fucking crutch of judaism and always has been.
Again, wrong
Someone doesn’t understand Christianity and that’s okay, there are plenty of resources out there on it
How is Judaism, the religion that blatantly rejects Christ and holds to old laws and tries to constantly trick and undermine their own God, promoting usury and lying and raping all non-Jews, similar to any way to the religion that accepts Christ and doesn’t do any of that and actively speaks against those things?
>Christianity comes from the Middle East
It also comes from Rome, which was the start of Christ’s Church, which still stands today
>another christian who has no knowledge of european history, people were executing in the thousands, murdered unarmed for refusing conversion.
1. Greatly exaggerated by secular media who hates Christianity
2. The ones that were performed were by the secular state and secular authorities, not the Church or any of its officials
>happened again and again and again through the 7th to 8th century and continued to get increasingly more brutal in the 10th century after pagan military fell.
You mean the majority of pagan nations and its leaders who willingly converted and openly supported the Church and its nations?
>jews arent satan worshippers, the jews are more straight line and honest worshippers than fucking christians.
There it is lol

>>76466883
> again wrong
doesnt clarify why/how im wrong

you dont understand what you worship or the history of it, you fucking absolute braindead retarded christcuck.
> 1. Greatly exaggerated by secular media who hates Christianity
HOLY SHIT READ HISTORY, RETARD

>>76466900
>doesnt clarify why/how im wrong
I did
Someone didn’t read my post again
>you dont understand what you worship or the history of it
Neither do you lol

>>76466883
>Is that not good enough for you?
No. It's not. You literally do nothing that makes a difference because you know deep down that a soup kitchen, community fundraiser, or whatever else does nothing. You might as well have said you do a cancer walk once a year as opposed to giving money to a cancer research center or researching cancer yourself. You might as well have said you are an athlete because you go on a 20 minute walk once a week.

Are you some non-denominational faggot?

>>76466922
Im only one man and I try, I've helped people around me whenever I can and that’s what matters
Do you do anything besides whine on the internet about how nothing you do really matters?
>Are you some non-denominational faggot?
Im Catholic

>>76466883
> You mean the majority of pagan nations and its leaders who willingly converted and openly supported the Church and its nations?
another of the many lies because youve never read any history

to name a few at the top of my head
391, ban on worship of the old gods after the old gods were represented as a trade/religious worship center in rome for over a thousand years
410, Our Goths with Alaric destroying christian rome after several warnings since they kept melting down divine figures in Rome.
772, Christcucks destroyed Irminsul
772, rebellion after forced fonversions
723, Christcucks destroy Donar's Oak
770s, Eresburg
776, more Rebellion
777, Integrate Saxony before more forced converts
779, Mass baptism with additional mass Baptisms in the 780s
782, Verden Massacre (what triggered the "viking age")
782, More rebellion against forced conversion
783, Church built on top of Irminsul
> MUH HECKING PROTECT CULTURE & EUROPEAN AJDENTITIIIIIIIII

>>76466952
Wow. I've done the exact same things you have and, like I said, nothing ever fucking changed and shit got worse.
>inb4 do more
Why aren't you?

>>76466954
It’s crazy, everything you listed was done by secular governments and its authority
Also funny everything you listed in the 700s were done by the Franks, a Viking people who willingly converted to Christianity
>>76466960
You do whatever you can, you are not expected to change the entire world overnight
You keep going and help whenever you can, whatever you can do in your ability
That’s all you can do

>>76466960
Kill your self bud.

>>76467001
HAHAHA this is done by the biggest fucking christcuck ever known as Charlemagne that most of your worship

AY LMAO the absolute state of christcucks

>>76467001
>That’s all you can do
Cope

>>76467008
No. Fuck you and fuck your faggy overly, fake and gay optimism, DYEL

>>76467001
i mean seriously, despite that i list things for you, related to constant forced conversion and executions in the thousands, you deny it XD
you christians are worse than the jews.

>>76467061
No one worships Charlemagne
And he was a Frank, a viking, he also ruled over the Lombards, also vikings, and was an emperor of the Western Roman Empire
>>76467082
>Cope
There it is lol
Go start a militia commune or something and take over the government if you really wanna live up to whatever expectations you have
>>76467085
>related to constant forced conversion and executions
All things done by secular governments and its authority
>you christians are worse than the jews.
There it is lol

>>76466367
>you sit and stew in negativity
That's after my positivity failed to help me in any way.
>when you’re the one not doing anything to try and fix whatever you are going through
So you're trying to say that He's not important, that's bizarre. I thought you can't do anything without Him...

>>76467174
>There it is lol
There what is? The fact you think you're doing something by doing nothing yet I can acknowledge that it's nothing while doing something yields nothing?

>>76467180
>That's after my positivity failed to help me in any way.
How does negativity help you in any way?
>So you're trying to say that He's not important, that's bizarre. I thought you can't do anything without Him
God is important, duh
But God is not going to drop everything you want in your lap, YOU still need to go out and act
God can strengthen you, take away your worries and anxieties, but again, YOU still need to do something
It involves faith AND works, it is a life of action; active faith
If you sit around doing nothing except stewing in negativity and refuse to put your faith in God, then thats what you are going to get, negativity and no sign of God in your life
>>76467193
No, it’s just that while I am helping people in my community, even if it’s a small thing, it’s still not good enough to you
You said you did the same thing, but it wasn’t big enough to you, so what is? What are you going to do? What’s your big plan to change everything?
Nothing?
Do you advocate to do nothing since nothing we do matters, no matter how small it may be and how it may matter to even just one person and cause a change in them?

>>76467231
>I am helping people in my community
But you're not?
>i am helping my cousin with cancer by having a bbq

>what is good enough
What part of tangible difference doesn't make sense to you?
>homelessness is getting worse
>what is the solution when there are multiple organizations and charities built around this that somehow do not help?
>almost as if things are getting worse despite everything so where is the betterment?
>besides christcuck self-fellatio
Might as well say prayer will make a difference.

>>76467245
Cool, you realize that help is a two-way street
You can put your hand out to help and try to fix things and there are people who will refuse it and continue to make things worse, such is the state of the world/society when evil people are in power and some people don’t want things to get better for others or themselves
So if you wanna fix it, even if ever so slowly, then help people who want help, whoever is reaching back out to receive help, with whatever ability you have to help them
And again, if you want to do more than community service work to try and slowly help people in your community, then go do it if you believe it will truly help people and fix things
Again, what’s the alternative? Sitting and stewing in negativity and screaming that nothing we do matters? Does that help anyone? Does doing nothing help anything?

>>76467314
Retard. What part of
>it has gotten worse
are you not understanding? It has literally gotten worse so what is 1 individual going to do at this point? My original point when I first started talking to you was that God, or at least your God, is nowhere to be found in these times. Which is even funnier when you yourself are preaching for me to do things when you yourself don't do them like a fat bastard telling others to workout. I understand your premise. I am rejecting it because reality does not coincide with it.

>>76467342
It gets worse, so what
You keep doing good because it’s the right thing to do
God is around, He will never leaves us, this is the promise He made to us from the beginning of time
If you want God to destroy evil, then the whole world will be destroyed
>Which is even funnier when you yourself are preaching for me to do things when you yourself don't do them
I do more than whine about how nothing matters and “things are bad so just stop doing anything and give up nothing you do matters”
God never promised that things will get better, in fact He says things will get worse, but does that mean we give up and join evil? No, it’s at that point we hold to our faith more and continue to do good in the face of ever rising evil
If you have a problem with what I do within my ability to help people, then I hope you have a real good plan to fix everything like you hope for
Surely your plan isn’t to blackpill and demoralize people on the internet right?
God is good, and God promised that in the end good will prevail, so I’ll put my trust in that and continue to do good as much as I can, no matter how small it may be

>>76467231
>How does negativity help you in any way?
I'm just being realistic. I'm trying to be positive but this is not something I can sincerely believe anymore.
>everything you want in your lap
It seems like you're trying your very best to make anger me. Or maybe you're just incapable of more.
>If you sit around doing nothing
Yep, you're a clairvoyant.

>>76467398
>You keep doing good because it’s the right thing to do
Nah fuck that. You can do everything right nowadays and it means jack shit. If "doing the right thing" mattered so much for the individual we'd see it reflected in our society but most people now have realized it's a cope at best to justify ho bad things are. Lie, cheat, steal, break the rules, and do everything that benefits the self which, ironically, produces a healthier society.

>I do more than whine about how nothing matters and “things are bad so just stop doing anything and give up nothing you do matters”
>"stop doing anything"
I never said that. Again, I refer you to my original response to you asking where God was.
>it's going to get worse
Cool. so my first point still stands.

>>76467174
Are you fucking fuck full blown retarded ? a christian who forced Saxons to convert into christianity again and again and fucking again, whos grandchildren turned into ultra-spreg communists who hated pagans and east east european pagans the most.

youre the biggest fucking goybrain ive ever fucking seen, dude.

no wonder women fucking feel the icks around you fucks

>>76467453
>I'm trying to be positive but this is not something I can sincerely believe anymore.
Then nothing will happen
You will continue to be negative and feel negative things
>It seems like you're trying your very best to make anger me.
>Yep, you're a clairvoyant.
Because I’m right?
>>76467534
>Lie, cheat, steal, break the rules, and do everything that benefits the self which, ironically, produces a healthier society.
How’s society looking right now because of it?
You’ve given up and chosen to be evil and fulfill your own selfish desires because doing good and following God is hard
I will not give up, I will grow and continue to be better and help people because it’s what God asks of me
>I refer you to my original response to you asking where God was.
God is still here, good things still happen in the world, miracles still happen, the Church is still here and it continues to grow
God is here, you just don’t want to accept Him because you’re afraid of having to accept you are wrong and have given up to do wrong
>Cool. so my first point still stands.
Yes, the world kinda sucks and things can and will get worse, so I will continue to do good and help steer as many people as I am within my ability to not fall to nihilism, pessimism, despair, and evil
>>76467600
>a christian who forced Saxons to convert into christianity
A Frankish king who willingly converted on his own along with the help of other viking people who also willingly converted went to war with a people for political reasons that were of secular reasoning first and foremost
>whos grandchildren turned into ultra-spreg communists
Christianity does not condone communism in any way so no
>who hated pagans and east east european pagans the most.
The Pagans hated Christians too, look at Rome and its campaigns against Christians
>youre the biggest fucking goybrain ive ever fucking seen, dude.
>the namefag who supports the Jews and hates Christians calls other people goybrain lol

>>76467688
>I will not give up, I will grow and continue to be better and help people because it’s what God asks of me
Shut the fuck up already, kid. No older than 23 I take it?

>I will continue to do good and help steer as many people as I am within my ability to not fall to nihilism, pessimism, despair, and evil
AKA
>I will continue to do the bare minimum IRL and shitpost on 4chan where people call me out on my retardation, but I lack the self-awareness to accept it.

>>76467723
>Shut the fuck up already, kid. No older than 23 I take it?
Nope, 24 :)
If having hope and being good makes you automatically assume someone is a kid then that says a lot about your worldview, which we know to be embracing evil and chaos
>>I will continue to do the bare minimum IRL and shitpost on 4chan where people call me out on my retardation, but I lack the self-awareness to accept it.
You seem weirdly attached to this idea that I, and possibly others, are like incapable of doing good things and want to help people? It’s like you are trying to hate the idea of goodness
Seems possibly like projection to me, considering you whine about things getting worse and nothing matters and nothing we do can fix anything

>>76467786
So I was right. You are a tradcath LARP zoomer. It will pass and I wish I could be there to see it.

> incapable of doing good things and want to help people?
Again, how are you exactly helping people and making a physical, tangible difference.
>projection
I accept your concession

>>76467688
Lying spiritual jew, charlemagne was a christian who executed unarmed Saxons in the thousands despite continuous fucking rebellions against forced conversions.

These christians desecrated pagan sacred grounds and were the sole cause as to why we call it "THE VIKING AGE"
> VIKING AGE IS A RESPONSE TO CHRISTIAN FORCED CONVERSION; Executing thousands of unarmed Saxons.
Worshipping the old gods WERE FUCKING OUTLAWD, Stupid spiritual jew.
These types of events were among one of top reasons for why Hitler hated christainity & sought to destroy christianity besides that he saw it as something that made his people weak.

>>76467856
>It will pass and I wish I could be there to see it.
>do you believe in something and have hope and want to help people whenever you can and wish for the world to be better?
>YOURE A LE LARPER!!!
>YOU NEED TO BE REAL LIKE ME! WHO HAS GIVEN UP AND EMBRACED NEGATIVITY AND DEMORALIZING!
>Again, how are you exactly helping people
Donating to charities and helping at church community events to give clothes and food to people and reaching out to people around me who are going through mental/spiritual issues and helping them get through it
Sure, I may not be completely changing the economy or rewriting laws or uprooting the entire government, but it helps even so slightly to those that ask
>>76467895
>charlemagne was a christian
Yes, but he was also a European viking and still identified as such
>who executed unarmed Saxons in the thousands
The viking man used his viking army to kill other vikings, why are you surprised?
>Worshipping the old gods
Which ones? There are many to pick from
Also to remind you, you can still hold onto your European heritage and cultural identity and still be a Christian (which many many did willingly)
>Hitler hated christainity & sought to destroy christianity
I’ve got news you might not like…

>>76468272
>performing mass baptism
"viking"
"viking" forcing saxons to convert into christianity
only christian leaders & church officials could baptise

you are so hopelessly depended on jews that you cant see that you are a spiritual jew,
nobody else disagrees on the underlying pretexts of what triggered the viking age but you, a dumb christian spiritual jew.

"news for me"
Hitlers table talks revealing hitlers contempt of christianity and multiple post war planning about eradicating christianity.

>>76460800
Don't be one of the babylonian edomites or their descendents and dont be a douchebag.
Theres some leeway on the second one tho. If you truly regret those moments where you were a douchebag and make honest efforts to apologize to those you wronged, then youre good

>>76468291
>only christian leaders & church officials could baptise
Yes, they baptized people
But the war and killings were done by viking armies and for political reasons done by a secular rule, not the Church
>you are so hopelessly depended on jews that you cant see that you are a spiritual jew,
But I thought Jews were super cool and straightforward and honest?
>Hitlers table talks revealing hitlers contempt of christianity and multiple post war planning about eradicating christianity.
That’s weird because Hitler was Catholic and openly promoted the spread of Christianity and building churches in Germany, even having soldiers go out of there way to be stationed and defend foreign churches, like Mount Athos in Greece
And even stated himself that the NatSoc part supported Christianity

>>76468272
>to give clothes and food to people and reaching out to people around me
>didn't mention that until now when asked what he does to improve his community

So you're unbelievably thick headed or this is bait you keep building upon

>>76468335
teach the practise of cultural subversion and bringing people to the lowest spiritual state to submit, part of the earliest forms of christianity in Rome.

Weaken clan identity while taxing them as a bank except it only caters to the church officials, identical to your jews running large majority of insutitions of the U.S of A

>>76468376
it was done by christians you stupid fuck, ive seen this many times before

youre a brainwashed more who think youre not worshipping a jew because some retard taught you false history of British Israelism
and christians love to claim some high status figures Plato, Harald Hardrada(despite not trusting them with his accumulated wealth)
& our Goths(despite worshipping Gapt or Gaut = Odin) "as one of their own".

while this fucking baffles me, a christian who assume that Charlemagne isnt Christian, the one that christians are the absolute most proud of ?

Hitler promoted christianity before he thread into power as a means to cull the sleepers (i.e similar to America where 30% doesnt vote at all)
& did a complete 180 while removing church icons out of images, Himmler stood behind Hitler for several decades & planned to revive the pagan world.

ahh yeah, NSDAP Germany even desecrated churches..

>>76468380
Did I need to spell it out that badly for you?
I said many times I help my community and work with my church
>>76468389
>teach the practise of cultural subversion and bringing people to the lowest spiritual state to submit
Christianity does not do that
>part of the earliest forms of christianity in Rome.
No, that was apologists and martyrdom, which convinced the Romans people as they did not understand it at first
>Weaken clan identity
Christianity does not do this either
>while taxing them as a bank except it only caters to the church officials
Also doesn’t do this
You don’t have to give money if you are unable to, it is a form of generosity not forced taxing
Again you have a weird and false understanding of Christianity
>>76468404
>it was done by christians
Sure, but ultimately the war was not for religious purposes
>youre a brainwashed more who think youre not worshipping a jew
Jesus wasn’t a Jew, in fact the Jews killed Him specifically for that
>a christian who assume that Charlemagne isnt Christian
I never said he wasn’t Christian, I simply stated that he was a viking king that held onto his viking identity and acted like a viking
>the one that christians are the absolute most proud of
Says who?
>did a complete 180 while removing church icons out of images
Yes, it was complex, because Hitler wished to use monasteries and churches for militaristic purposes with which the clergy denied and were thus punished by the state
Secular reasoning, not religious
>Himmler stood behind Hitler for several decades
And Himmler was a gnostic cultist who wanted to practice magic, does that make automatically make Hitler and the rest of the government one too?
>NSDAP Germany even desecrated churches..
sure, some people did, and some embraced Christianity
Just like how some Jews joined the SS
What’s your point?

>>76468425
>Did I need to spell it out that badly for you?

>i exercise
What do you do?
>i exercise
Yeah but what exactly do you do?
>i exercise
...

>>76468481
What else would “i work with my church to do community work” mean?
What else would that possibly mean?

>>76468521
>i exercise
Ok but what exercises do you do specifically?

How would you feel if you ate breakfast this morning?

>>76468530
So I did need to spell it blatantly since you couldn’t possibly piece together what that means
And I would be upset if I didn’t eat breakfast, do I need to specify what breakfast I would like to eat now for you to get it?

>>76468535
>i exercise
>not understanding the breakfast question
You do more harm to your faith than you think.

>>76468557
I do understand the breakfast question
You’re trying to get a dig about me understanding hypotheticals and my IQ
But simply, you just couldn’t piece together what “community work through my church” could possibly imply

was jesus a jew? fr? no cap? low key simping for a jew would be hella sus unc.

>>76468591
Because it is a blanket term that ranges from what you described to doing a fucking bake sale or Bible study.

Lapsed Catholic here, I don't wanna bore anyone with any personal story tonight, but I wanna say this:

I finally feel and "get" the Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:26: "Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words."

>>76468425
i dont even know why i replied to you in the first place, you dont know a lick of european history at all
and you clearly believe in british israelism since you are under the impression that Yeshua=Jesus isnt a jew
despite that all first converts, including Cephas & 12 apostles were all jews.

you neither have the capabilities to comprehend theology or history.

>>76468670
> I finally feel and "get" the Holy Spirit
John 4:22
You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews

>>76468741
Catholics are known to bend and contort reality to whatever they want. I remember asking about Buddhism to 1 Catholic friend of mine and how they seemed to make more sense to which he admitted yes, but somehow there was a weird loophole that God allowed them to go to Heaven because... he just would ok?

>>76468771
the older christianity gets, the more pagan it gets

the more north christianity traveled and continuously subverted anything in its path to flirt with every community
the more germanized it became (which christians somehow seem fine with) but dont like talking about how they did it.

id be more interested in the orthodox since they were the most lazy branch of christianity hat it might actually have real forgotten history left behind somwhere.

>>76468783
>The one holy catholic apostolic church is the most lazy branch of Christianity

>>76468805
>esl can't fucking read english

>>76468634
Both of those are important for the community as well
>>76468741
>british israelism
No idea what that is
>Jesus isnt a jew
Correct, He wasn’t a Jew
He was killed for that reason
>despite that all first converts, including Cephas & 12 apostles were all jews.
Some were Jews (ethnically) some were Gentiles
Such is the nature of having diverse groups of people hearing the Gospel and being spread across other communities
>you neither have the capabilities to comprehend theology or history.
>says the man who does not understand history and especially theology
>>76468771
>but somehow there was a weird loophole that God allowed them to go to Heaven because... he just would ok?
It revolves around the concept of invincible ignorance
A non-Christian man could go to heaven according to the Christian faith if that man has never once heard the Gospel or of Christianity in general
Since this man had absolutely no understanding of Christianity and it’s doctrine, then God cannot judge the man by such doctrine because God is just and good
Instead he would be judged by his own righteous and moral living (which is objective and is implanted in us by God as we are made in His likeness)
>the older christianity gets, the more pagan it gets
Wrong, there is no paganism in Christianity
Let me guess, your argument is going to be about a poor interpretation of the Trinity or the intercession of the Saints and Mary?
>id be more interested in the orthodox since they were the most lazy branch of christianity
Again, its weird how you keep admitting you know nothing about Christianity
>>76468826
The Orthodox are still apostolic, holy, and appeal to catholic traditional teaching, as further confirmed by the Catholic Church that they are valid in their priesthood and sacraments, though through a more eastern philosophy and in a way some may view as “outdated” or “mysterious”

>>76468805
orthodox historically only seemed to move/change when they seemed lazily greedy for something or they just remained the same which might favor us in the long run since christians both destroyed and warped history like maniacs to serve their political narratives.

>>76468853
> WrOnG tHeRe Is No PaGaNiSm In ChRiStiAniTy

Even blessing comes from worshiping the old gods, you dumb fuck.
both the concept of it and the word itself.

stop fucking posting, youre embarrassing

>>76466602
>destroying culture since the second century
>almost 2,000 years of global rule and European culture made by White Christians

>>76468905
which 2000 years ?

Rome was the central point of trade and worship of the old gods for over a thousand years until the 2nd century
Christians was busy executing unarmed Saxons until the 8th century
The Danish king Harald bluetooth converted in the 10th century solely to avoid military interventions after recent military losses
Swedes were still slaughtering christian infiltrators in the 10th century, as christians kept sending missionaries despite them being slaughtered.
Pagan military might falls year 1066
Persecution from the christian church continues until the 16th century, the same year that the first bank is established in Sweden.
how the hell do you fit 2000 years, where and how you historically illiterate fucking retard ?

>>76468890
>Even blessing comes from worshiping the old gods, you dumb fuck.
both the concept of it and the word itself.
So if you say Christianity is pagan, and worshipping the old pagan gods (never specified which ones) is what gives you blessings, defining it as being true
Then Christianity is true :)
Weird way to come to that conclusion but it’s a start
>Rome was the central point of trade and worship of the old gods for over a thousand years until the 2nd century
Rome didn’t become Christian until the end of the 4th century
The 2nd century saw heavy persecution towards the Christians and many campaigns to try and destroy it (which only strengthened it ironically because of the martyrs)
And because of this attempt to try and destroy it, Rome became the central hub of Christianity and the Catholic Orthodox Church was made
>Christians was busy executing unarmed Saxons until the 8th century
Secular war
Vikings killed other viking people because of their culture and orders
And you keep parroting this as if Pagans never once killed unarmed people or civilians, and that only Christians are the only bad guys ever to exist
>The Danish king Harald bluetooth converted in the 10th century solely to avoid military interventions after recent military losses
He was also converted and baptized because of many discussions of faith and a miracle with a monk named Poppo, which led to King Harald actively promoting Christianity through his kingdom and helping many others convert
>as christians kept sending missionaries despite them being slaughtered.
So you criticize an army of Christian viking soldiers for killing unarmed people, but show no such contempt when it’s Swedish vikings killing unarmed missionaries?
> how the hell do you fit 2000 years
Because it’s been 2000 years since the birth and death of Christ

>>76468919
What the fuck even is your retarded argument? That war is le bad? How about the culture created by White Christians by way of massive amounts church funded scientific discoveries such as the creation of the scientific method and creation of universities, moral reforms such as: abolition of slavery, rise of reciprocal contracts rather than hierarchy through force, modern logical systems, maintaining literature and art you and your retarded spear chucking tribe takes for granted today?
Dumbfucks like you really think through the subjugation from your gay clan would have survived well into the late 15th century? Fucktards couldn't even stop themselves from killing each other, much less defend from le "Christian persecution."

You're almost as bad as gaythiests,

>>76468979
you have this bizarre tendency of twisting every single thing that you dont like to hear to sound like something else entirely and you come up with pure whataboutism answer like an effeminate retard
maybe its just this what women say is the "ick" about christians.

>>76467688
>Then nothing will happen
Yes, like it didn't happen when I tried my best.
>Because I’m right?
No, because you're a complete retard who repeats the same thing over and over. Of course you, have no actual answers and you're exceptionally stupid and judgemental person which is very ironic. Perhaps you're intentionally doing that.

>>76468940
> I still cant believe blessing is derived from the old gods (germanic, roman & greek)
equal exchange, blessing=bledsian, blood consecration,
create, strengthening, purifying, imbuing objects/individuals with power and etc
christians turned this into word alone and church gold/donation

since this is just what christianity has meant through most of european history
a substitute in the void of banking, where it today is bloated in mass-institutionalized-helliarchy from church body tax funds

> Rome didn’t become Christian until the end of the 4th century
Our goths sacked christian rome in the 4th century, so it disappeared the moment it began then, ok "...."
> He was also converted and baptized BLABLABLA LUKEWARM IQ RETARD WORDS
No, it was never that complex at all and simply had too many threats at his doorsteps and baptism was required to move church funds to begin with.
> So you criticize an army of Christian viking soldiers
Do you even hear yourself, retard ? theres no such thing as a christian viking, the closest you get to a christian viking is viking mercs fighting for church gold.
they knew what they were doing, they were the ones fucking starting the viking age in the first place because of forced conversions.

>>76459152 (OP)
Please pray for my friends friends who is in critical condition from a car accident and his family. Love you guys, Jesus is the best.

>>76462918
Jesus does so much more than just help you be a better behaved and compassionate human. He died and rose so that we can have eternal life with Him.

>>76464063
Based and true post.

>>76468979
> such as the creation of the scientific method and creation of universities, moral reforms such as: abolition of slavery, rise of reciprocal contracts rather than hierarchy through force, modern logical systems, maintaining literature and art you

the christian church taxed peasants so hard that they were barely able to live/thrive on their own while the church burnt people alive who said something contradictory of science/medicine that defied the church belief in which germanic tribes was well versed with medicine since the 3rd/4th century as it was a core piece of sacred groves.

moral reforms degraded with christian influence, hence the phenomenon of Mylings that christians became scared of since we began fucking like bunnies left and right
as soon as any christian influence entered europe and we now even have these in videogames with these dead children left to die by christian women since they feared
the church to raise a bastard or outside of marriage or worse just like 40.000 children sold by the catholic church and nuns being raped and forced into abortions for the
christian church to save safe.

while in reality, we germanic was praised by the romen emperors for our strong moral code in comparison.
maye you should just shut your retarded mouth and open some books for once ?

>>76469005
>Yes, like it didn't happen when I tried my best.
Then you didn’t try your best
>No, because you're a complete retard who repeats the same thing over and over
>Of course you, have no actual answers
Because you fail to understand it and also refuse to accept the answer and continue on your own path of negativity and nothingness
>>76469011
>semantics of old words that line up to Christianity still regarding blood and strength and purifying
>christians turned this into word alone and church gold/donation
But it’s not
>a substitute in the void of banking, where it today is bloated in mass-institutionalized-helliarchy from church body tax funds
The Church has over a billion people in it, of course it is an institution and needs money, how else is it to lead and teach?
>so it disappeared the moment it began then
No, the Christian Roman Empire still existed for hundreds and hundreds of more years, further spreading around the world
Someone doesn’t know their history
>No, it was never that complex at all
The idea of talking to a Christian monk and witnessing a miracle, leading to his conversion is complex to you? Tough
>theres no such thing as a christian viking
Yes there is, because you can still identify with your European viking culture and heritage while still being a Christian, which many did and still do, like the Franks
>they knew what they were doing, they were the ones fucking starting the viking age in the first place
They lost some battles in war (which all started for secular political reasons and not religious ones) and that justifies destroying monasteries and robbing and killing unarmed monks for years to come?
The age that ended when they no longer had to beat up monks but actual trained soldiers?

>>76469030
his message is a copy of the pagan Greek, Hercules & the wagon, also recited in the movie about Beowulf.

>>76469040
>Then you didn’t try your best
And you don't even try with your replies.
>and also refuse to accept the answer
And you also refuse to accept the truth that you have no idea what you're talking about which could be a positive thing because it could be blissful life of delusion.

>>76469040
> old words that lined up
old words that originate from old norse and pagan practices you retarded fuck.
> The Church has over a billion people in it, of course it is an institution and needs money, how else is it to lead and teach?
it didnt, people were strongly illiterate into the 17th century, roughly a hundred years after the first bank in Sweden.
> No, the Christian Roman Empire still existed for hundreds and hundreds of more years, further spreading around the world
mental gymnastics, you know exactly what i said since i was referring to the goths but you jump hundreds of years between different contexts to feel right when youre wrong.
> The idea of talking to a Christian monk and witnessing a miracle, leading to his conversion is complex to you?
was never that complex, you are making shit up to feel like being right, you are anti-history.
> They lost some battles in war
you are being a retard again, every historian is firm in what started the viking age after christians forced conversion & verden.

>>76469055
I do know what I’m talking about, you just don’t want to hear it for some reason and would rather be negative and give up, which God happily grants if that’s what you really want
>>76469063
>old words that originate from old norse and pagan practices
Cool, religious words and their meanings like “blessing” are found in many other ancient religions, not a good argument
>it didnt, people were strongly illiterate into the 17th century
Not really, the illiteracy and theological incompetence of medieval peasants is greatly exaggerated
>mental gymnastics, you know exactly what i said since i was referring to the goths
I said Rome as in the Roman Empire as a whole, my mistake
Yes, the city of Rome was sacked by the Goth at the start of the 5th century, but the entirety of the Roman Empire both East and West were Christian and continued to be so after the attack by the Goths (who later converted to Christianity, actually being one of if not the first viking tribes to become Christian around the same time of Rome being attacked)
>you are anti-history.
The story of Harald and Poppo is a well documented and accepted story among many historical scholars to explain his conversion to Christianity, as well as Harald’s political reasonings
>every historian is firm in what started the viking age
Yes, more than one single factor/event, like changes in population, social and political issues among even other viking nations that did not only involve the Christians, land shortages, wealth issues, competition for various resources among the viking tribes, the development of technology to encourage travel and raiding, and some of the rising issues that were growing in many neighboring Christian nations which also encouraged many vikings to take advantage of that for quick profit on a weakening nation

>>76469109
youre just showing off more of your incompetence.
the goths never christianized, they kept worshipping gapt/gautr(earlier variants of Odin) and was only under trade relations with christians since they didnt have their own mercs/army and has always tried to subvert and convert, even going so far as to dedicated a silver bible to our bible that rejects the holy trinity just like our varangian guard protected christians who were worshipping the old gods and their pagan practises was well written about and even in front of the emperors as written in the book of ceremonies.

and yes, peasants stayed strongly illiterate util the 17th century with the rise of banks in the 16th century and the end of persecution from the christian church

stop being a fucking retard and open a book.

>>76469133
>the goths never christianized,
They did, granted it was a form of Arianism in the beginning, but they did worship Christ and eventually correct the Arianist view
>since they didnt have their own mercs/army
So how did they sack Rome?
>to our bible that rejects the holy trinity
That was because of a translation issue which led to the Goths adopting an Arianist view, which was later corrected
>protected christians who were worshipping the old gods and their pagan practises was well written about and even in front of the emperors as written in the book of ceremonies.
Yes, in Rome, some Christians did continue to practice their pagan rituals like their daily offerings and rituals to the Emperor, mostly due to misunderstandings of Christianity and what it entails, but also out of survival because if the Emperor or other Roman officials knew that people weren’t doing them they would be punished, which many Christians were
Many Christians living in Pagan worlds did their best to maintain both their faith and their culture and identity, but certain practices like primarily idol worship were actively rejected, which led to the obvious issues between Pagans and Christians
>peasants stayed strongly illiterate util the 17th century with the rise of banks in the 16th century
The rise of banking and industry led to an increase in literacy
And the persecution from the churches at that time were of specifically witchcraft and Gnostic cultism, not ancient European paganism

>>76469161
christian arianism, rejects the concept of the holy trinity, the silver bible i was talking about, codex argenteus.

just because you love sucking cock doesnt mean ive got to love you.

The goths sacked rome with Alaric, they warned the christians not to keep pushing it but christians kept melting down divine figures, so they sacked it.

sounds kinda stupid, right ? christians sacked christianity, THEY WERENT FUCKING CHRISTIANS, RETARD.

christians just loved sucking cock and finding ways to subvert & convert even if people in the thousands were unnarmed, hence the trigger of the "viking age" inb4 MUH CHRISTIAN VIKING LOL
>peasants stayed strongly illiterate util the 17th century with the rise of banks in the 16th century
The rise of banking and industry led to an increase in literacy
exactly what i said, retard

> And the persecution from the churches at that time were of specifically witchcraft and Gnostic cultism, not ancient European paganism
no, it wasnt and i have personal evidence passed down in my family and theres still memorials erected after christians killed people in the 16th century.

now stop talking about shit you have no idea about.

>>76459152 (OP)
Never understood the chuddification of Christianity. Feels disingenuous to me

>>76469182
because its not entirely organic, its artificially pushed since jews need the funding that gets pushed into christian funds since a lot of the massmigration and globalization is brought into christian church bodies.

and christians worship jews even if less and less wants to admit it.

>>76469174
>christian arianism, rejects the concept of the holy trinity, the silver bible i was talking about, codex argenteus.
Yes, the thing which was corrected upon realizing the error
>just because you love sucking cock doesnt mean ive got to love you.
Weird to be thinking about sucking cock?
Are you okay?
>THEY WERENT FUCKING CHRISTIANS, RETARD.
Yes, the Goths at the time were largely Christian, but again, with the influence of Alaric and a poor translation, their version of Christianity differed from the Catholic West, which led to political issues
This led to the Goths sacking Rome, which also involved no church or clergy being harmed and it mostly being a political play rather than an actual attack as there was no widespread destruction or burning
Again, these errors were later corrected
>christians just loved sucking cock
You seem obsessed with the idea of sucking cock all of a sudden?
>hence the trigger of the "viking age"
Which was caused by much more than what you say it was caused by
>no, it wasnt
It was, history agrees with that
>i have personal evidence passed down in my family
Then your family practiced witchcraft and were punished by the state after being investigated sorry
>>76469196
>jews need the funding that gets pushed into christian funds since a lot of the massmigration and globalization is brought into christian church bodies.
No, mass immigration as it is today is against Christianity and Biblical teachings
The Church confirms this as well
The “Christians” you say that are doing it are Jews or are working with them and are not actually Christian
>and christians worship jews
No they don’t, any Christian worshipping a Jew is not Christian
Zionist Christians worshipping Israel and lobbying for it are not Christian

>>76469205
>
Yes, the thing which was corrected upon realizing the error
no such thing, youre making things up, they sacked rome because theyre not christian, thats why they sacked rome over christian rome banning worship of the gold gods and kept melting down divine figures despite warnings

and no, the codex argenteus just simply openly reject the holy trinity as intended, translated from greek to gothic.

all historians agree that the viking age was triggered by christians forcefully converting people against their will and the verden massacre and thats it, youre making shit up because you cant stand being a spiritual jew.

youre simply pathetic, thats the root cause of the problem here.

> No, mass immigration as it is today is against Christianity and Biblical teachings
> The Church confirms this as well
youre making shit up again, look ->>>76466685
biggest spiritual jew of the year award

>>76469205
> Yes, the thing which was corrected upon realizing the error
no such thing, youre making things up, they sacked rome because theyre not christian, thats why they sacked rome over christian rome banning worship of the gold gods and kept melting down divine figures despite warnings
and no, the codex argenteus just simply openly reject the holy trinity as intended, translated from greek to gothic.
> Which was caused by much more than what you say it was caused by
all historians agree that the viking age was triggered by christians forcefully converting people against their will and the Verden massacre and thats it, youre making shit up because you cant stand being a spiritual jew.
> Then your family practiced witchcraft and were punished by the state after being investigated sorry
i cant speak of what the evidence is or ill dox myself, youll have to find out yourself how things work in physical means.
you just denying european history for hours and being proven wrong all the time just proves how retarded christians are.
> No, mass immigration as it is today is against Christianity and Biblical teachings
> The Church confirms this as well
youre making shit up again, look: christianity is part of it and always have. ->>>76466685

biggest spiritual jew of the year award

>>76469602
You do know you're arguing with ChatGPT, right?

>>76462918
Jesus is helpful still and his sacrifice is not forgotten.

>>76470526
Rome was strict on keeping logs/transaction and theres no written recorded sightings of jesus and no written statements of having seen him while he supposedly shouldve dragged a cross around and resurrect despite resurrection is against chiristian theology or rather partial germanization to appeal to germanic peoples of them as our goths was part of the Roman elite community.

despite that we have far less written records of high status names that few even knows about that ties to the goths, theres no records of relevant date despite him being written about much later as a jewish druid/healer in both jewish communities and egypt as if the war-like turmoil just didnt bother jews despite germanic people few in numbers were capable of destroying groups 12 times their own numbers.

>>76470526
Rome was strict on keeping logs/transaction and theres no written recorded sightings of jesus and no written statements of having seen him while he supposedly shouldve dragged a cross around and resurrect despite resurrection being against chiristian theology
or rather part of the germanization of christianity to appeal to germanic peoples as our goths was part of the Roman elite community, ie "to blend in among influential peoples"

despite that we have written records of high status names that few even knows about that ties to the Germanic people that sounds like people of the wulflings or related to beowulf in roman records, theres no records of relevant timeframes for jesus despite him being written about much later as a jewish druid/healer in both jewish communities and egypt as if the war-like turmoil didnt bother jews at all despite germanic people few in numbers were capable of destroying groups 12 times their own numbers.

he literally never existed.

>>76459152 (OP)
This is wise and I need to remember it. The Almighty did not give me struggles so He could lift them for me.

>>76469602
>no such thing, youre making things up
Mmm
No I’m not
Considering it is known the Goths did later accept the more widely known Nicene Christianity that was in Western Rome after the sacking
Because again, the sacking started because of ultimately political issues compounded by religious ones due to the translation errors of their Bible and how they were taught, it was an error that was corrected
So someone doesn’t know history
>all historians agree that the viking age was triggered by christians forcefully converting people against their will and the Verden massacre
Mmmm no
Many historians agree that it was a plethora of many many factors
Sure, the vikings losing battles against the Christians and some viking leaders converting were a factor, but not the only one like you autistically want it to be
>you just denying european history for hours and being proven wrong all the time
Im not denying European history, it seems like you are because you’re trying to find a boogeyman to your personal issues and in this case it’s Christians for some reason (who you confuse for Jews but then also say are worst than Jews?)
>youre making shit up again, look
A majority of those “Christian” groups are not Christian and they are all ran by business men and Jews, people who think about money and not faith
And using donated money to try and help people that are here is different than actively encouraging it (like what Jews and non-Christian grifters do)
Like I already said, Christianity as a whole does not endorse mass illegal immigration and biblically it is wrong
If anyone claiming to be Christian does, then they are not Christian, simple
>biggest spiritual jew of the year award
But I thought you liked them?
>>76470664
>he literally never existed.
The absolute lowest IQ take to have
Even the most world renown critics of Christianity still admit that historically Jesus Christ was a real living person
You are less intellectually honest than your enemies

>>76470895
basically christcucks are so deluded theyre deliberately warping history to become israelites through british isrealite theory which is made up nonsense with no support from any relevant field.

and you start off by ruling out the reason why christian rome was sacked after only 200-300 years since by our visigoths

who you continue to assume be christian despite fucking sacking them over outlawing worship of the old gods (germanic, roman & greek). youre basically not even making any sense at all at this point and no historian agrees with you.

the ones i like ? ive mentioned the few i remembered at the top of my head in christian rome, some in the 7-8th century and i mentioned harald bluetooth.

which was all a matter of christian forced conversion unlike harald who had no other option bot to convert to avoid further military interventions after already having suffered recent losses.

These timeframe with Harald is consistent with Swedes still slaughtering christian infiltrators sending missionaries for further conversion which are used solely to corrupt communities and turn them into tax slaves that receive barely anything at all in return just like when peasants starved in earlier time periods of similar context.

you continue by assuming this is my personal issues while its only a bare few of the many times in history weve had to deal with christians and this is not that much different to how things work today, only that the "literate missionary/church-official to tax collecting" today is more institutionalized and church bodies carrying spiderwebs of tax funds as provided in examples in my replies above.

and then the part where you assume that my take on jesus never having existed and i did clarify why this is, you provide no argument so theres no point in inflating your devoid of thoughts.

theres also no point in assuming that im liking jews when im attacking them in every potential angle in how you worship them.

>>76459219
That's sacrilege! The lamb is a sacres symbol

>>76463013
Not the type of getting off I had in mind but

>>76470895
> Considering it is known the Goths did later accept the more widely known Nicene Christianity that was in Western Rome after the sacking
> Because again, the sacking started because of ultimately political issues compounded by religious ones due to the translation errors of their Bible and how they were taught, it was an error that was corrected
> So someone doesn’t know history
Never happen, they continued to worship Gapt/Gautr as ive already explain and didnt matter how much christians tried to flatter them for conversion, fought for fame & riches like most other germanic warrior.

>Mmmm no
>Many historians agree that it was a plethora of many many factors
>Sure, the vikings losing battles against the Christians and some viking leaders converting were a factor, but not the only one like you autistically want it to be
Just straight up lies here, its a given fact that we even call it "The Viking Age" is response against christians forcefully converting people against their will while going so far as to executing thousands of unarmed saxons.
(Basically 7-8th century, a long series of forced conversion leading up to Verden; This gave is THE VIKING AGE)

> Im not denying European history, it seems like you are because you’re trying to find a boogeyman to your personal issues and in this case it’s Christians for some reason (who you confuse for Jews but then also say are worst than Jews?)
I dont see what personal issues could have to do with christians having originated from the jews and actually worship the jews, see -> >>76465425

>>76470895
> A majority of those “Christian” groups are not Christian and they are all ran by business men and Jews, people who think about money and not faith
> And using donated money to try and help people that are here is different than actively encouraging it (like what Jews and non-Christian grifters do)
> Like I already said, Christianity as a whole does not endorse mass illegal immigration and biblically it is wrong
Youre just refusing to see reality for what it is despite that christianity has always worked in this fashion
1. Buy yourself into aristocracy, trade & transport (titles, influence & favor)
2. Sway the now weakened royalty now that you carry the title, own the trade & people owe you favors.
3. Now that you own entire nation states, thraten the neighbors around it to inflict the same infection as written above

This was just how things worked back then, once youve baptized a king or new church officials that was literate was then used to tax the peasant class
and only kings & church officials was moving the funds; not for the people.

this simply grew into a more institutionalized fashion in modern times where companies who identify themselves as jewish & christian alike, second citizenship with isreal & proud america first.
all sitting in eachothers laps, competing businesses pretending to be competing with each other in reality sitting in each others laps as board of directors and moving stocks in such timely fashion.
ill point you back here since you refuse rational thought -> >>76466685
> (biggest spiritual jew of the year award) - But I thought you liked them?
When did i said i like the jews ? "you dont worship the jews, so you must be a jew ?" the new chuddified christianity really make no fucking sense at all.

> The absolute lowest IQ take to have
> Even the most world renown critics of Christianity still admit that historically Jesus Christ was a real living person
> You are less intellectually honest than your enemies
no argument

>>76471017
>Never happen
Man thats weird because historians agree thats what happened
So seems like someone is anti-history
>Just straight up lies here, its a given fact that we even call it "The Viking Age"
Again, historians all agree that it was a plethora of many factors that influenced the viking age
>christians having originated from the jews
Judaism as a religion comes after Christianity, because they rejected Christ
Jew as an ethnicity was around, though it was a blanket term for the various tribes of Abraham’s children and their descendants, and also considering many of them lived in either Israel or Judea
For your passage, you need to understand that it is not tell people to worship the Jews
In the context, Jesus is talking to a Samaritan woman, which culturally at the time was complex as a Samaritian was not allowed to interact with someone who was a Judean/Israelite
So also given the context of the old covenant and the Israelite people, what Jesus is referring to here is that the Samaritan woman has no knowledge of what Christ or God, and that knowledge was given to the Judean/Israelite people who Jesus comes from
Thats it, Jesus (who is God) is telling the woman that her understanding of salvation is incomplete or not full, as the Samaritans had a loose religious system mixed with old Jewish views and tied their practices and their idea of salvation to a place, and that the Jews, who had the old covenant law and the prophets and now the Son, had a more complete and structured understanding of what salvation means
So simply, Jesus is telling the woman that she does not know what salvation means due to her Samaritan views and practices, and that by trusting in Jesus (who comes from a line of Israelite/Judeans that the Samaritans were not allowed to interact with, and who is also God), she will know of a full and complete salvation

>>76471046
>Youre just refusing to see reality
Last I checked, Christians don’t take over nations and flood countries with infinity immigrants and charge interest and doing usury and buy land from people to charge rent and force themselves into federal circles to protect each other
Jews do that though
So I don’t know what reality you’re in
>second citizenship with isreal & proud america first. all sitting in eachothers laps
Those people are not Christian
>ill point you back here
Already talked about this
>When did i said i like the jews ?
You praised them for being honest and straightforward and saying that Christians are worse than them
>no argument
It is
If you prop yourself up as being such a supporter of history, then you would agree that Jesus Christ was a real person
Even Roman historians knew he was real

>>76471182
> Last I checked, Christians don’t take over nations and flood countries with infinity immigrants and charge interest and doing usury and buy land from people to charge rent and force themselves into federal circles to protect each other
> Jews do that though
> So I don’t know what reality you’re in
christians and jews do, you only need to research european history and christianity, again -> >>76465425
and my explanation here -> how the church was a one-sided bank before banking. >>76471046

> ((second citizenship with isreal & proud america first. all sitting in eachothers laps)) "Those people are not Christian"
they are, theyre not undoing their christian faith just because you dont find them to be chudd enough to believe in british isrealism.

>ill point you back here "Already talked about this"
??????????????????????????????????????????
> You praised them for being honest and straightforward and saying that Christians are worse than them
i said that they are more honest and straightfoward than christians, yes ? how does that make me "like jews" ?
Ill try to make an example of christcuckery:
Mormon
Orthodox
Catholic
Protestant
Jehovas
British Israelism theory retards
Maybe im missing something, idk.
> If you prop yourself up as being such a supporter of history, then you would agree that Jesus Christ was a real person
i explained why right here -> >>76470664

>>76468979
Don't bother; the guy is a genuine schizo. The fact that he replies to some posts multiple times is proof that he's suffering the effects of not taking his medication.

>>76471304
>christians and jews do
Again, this is hard for you to understand
If a supposed “Christian” is doing such this or supporting it, then they are NOT a Christian and are working with the enemy
>theyre not undoing their christian faith just because you dont find them to be chudd enough
Again, it’s not about being “chud”
Christianity does not stand for those things, if you actually understood and researched Christianity you would know that
>how the church was a one-sided bank before banking
The only financial influence the Church had was tithing
They did not buy themselves into aristocracy because as a church official you had no authoritative say in politics
And the royalty wasn’t weakened, in fact history shows that nations that became Christian actually thrived, like the Roman Empire which continued for hundreds and hundreds of years after it was expected to completely collapse
And again, they wouldn’t threaten anyone outside of religious contexts to other religious officials
Any kind of war or political move was done by secular leaders and their officials, not Church ones
> Mormon
>Orthodox
>Catholic
>Protestant
>Jehovas
>British Israelism theory retards
The only real Christians on that list are the Orthodox and the Catholics
Still no idea what British Israelism is
>i explained why right here
Yeah and you are wrong?
Every major historian, even non-Christians, even the ones that actively hate Christianity, all still admit that Jesus Christ was in fact a real human being
You do not actually care about history if you say that Jesus wasn’t real

>>76469109
>I do know what I’m talking about
No, you don't as you reply the same thing with zero argumentation.
>you just don’t want to hear it for some reason and would rather be negative and give up,
>just wait a few more decades bro

>>76471612
"christian" when its chud "jew" when its not chud
i rest my case, you are a spiritual jew.
>>76471776
agreed

>>76471776
What’s there to argue?
I gave the reasoning for what you’re feeling and how God works in relation to that and you just go “nothing ever happens”
If I have to keep saying the same thing, maybe it’s because you seemingly refuse to accept what I’m telling you?
>>just wait a few more decades bro
See there it is again, you don’t actually care about having faith and wanting to grow stronger and be happy
You just want an instant reward whenever you want because you misinterpret Scripture and how God works
It’s your fault you feel this way and it seems like you don’t want to change
>>76471968
>"christian" when its chud "jew" when its not chud
You have a very low theological understanding of Christianity and that’s okay, it is very complex for some
Maybe, just maybe, Christianity is actually more “chud” then you have been told and actually holds to values you would agree with
But because you have a hateboner for Christianity (saying it’s worse than Judaism even, but also somehow the same thing) you would never accept that even if blatantly told by Christians telling you what they believe and what the faith actually means

>>76472125
its more chud than youve been told, paygen ! ill have you know, we're no longer part of the Abrahamic subversive quest even if all the funding is there clear as day.
we're the official Chudwaffen SS, in control of this operation because the christianity youve heard of is far more complex than youve allowed yourself to study.

>>76472273
>its more chud than youve been told, paygen
It is
>we're no longer part of the Abrahamic subversive quest
Correct, we have zero theological and political ties to Judaism and are no longer bound by the old covenant that the Jews and Muslims align themselves to (and have also deviated from in their own way)
>even if all the funding is there clear as day.
It isn’t, which I’ve already explained
>the christianity youve heard of is far more complex than youve allowed yourself to study.
Yes, exactly at least you admit it

>>76472125
>What’s there to argue?
Why you're right, for an example.
>instant reward
Yep, waiting a long amount of time is instantly. Of course you're still not answering anything.

>>76472635
Tell me exactly what you want me to answer then since you want to run in circles

>>76471000
We are all lambs and Jesus is our shepherd.

>>76472895
no, you are the willful slave and potential byproduct of saxons who fell in battle against charlemagne's christian armies
that replenished itself over night off the backs from taxes from peasants being worked to death for absolutely nothing
which some random literate church commissionaires was sent to collect in order to hire new mercs.

if you are even white at all, your ancestors wouldve been spitting on your for your entire miserable life.

>>76464234
This.
Something about this “squished” pepe does something more unnerving than the actual pepe does. Glows & Reeks, in that order. And I know that when a post has zero or little replies, it’s because it hits the nail on the head a bit too much, that the fedbois on this site want as little attention drawn to it as possible, by ostracizing engagement with it; but here’s a (you) because you’re a tough lil soldier