CICOtards will tell you this guy does 4 hours of cardio a day and fasts for 2 weeks

>>76463393 (OP)
And a full blown retard made this thread.

Why have stupid extreme examples instead of realistic ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUWS4E6cJP0&t=117s

>>76463393 (OP)
Would be 5.4 lbs of fat gain but he will probably diarrhea and/or vomit out half of the calories. It’s moderately easy to shed that in about a month.
What’s your questiond0hsy faggot

There's way too much cooking oil in those. He's getting diarrhea for sure

>>76463449
And the 'beetus.

>>76463410
this retard has been spamming at least a thread a day, basically every day, getting btfo in every thread and still posting. just don't bother engaging at a certain point

>>76463393 (OP)
OP, I think his colon might have as much lube in it as yours.

>>76463393 (OP)
>fasts for 2 weeks
He definitely looks like the type of guy who would just forget to eat for 24 hours at a time

>>76463393 (OP)
You know your digestive system isn't 100 percent efficient, right? Like, you can consume 10,000 calories but your gut can only absorb 4000 while the chyme is moving through your small intestine, and your TDEE is 3300. So your body stores 700 calories as fat, not 6000. Of course, these numbers are made up, and it is different for every person. Some people have a more efficient gut, some less. Someone gets fat because they eat constantly, "between meals" as we used to say, and consistently above their TDEE, not a single large meal.

>>76463393 (OP)
All the extreme eating guys just throw it up after. Even if they counteracted the ridiculous amount of calories by fasting or whatever they would still suffer terrible health effects from eating that much slop

>>76463393 (OP)
Friendly reminder

>>76464917
>All the extreme eating guys just throw it up after
no they don't you fucking retard. i don't know why people repeat this bullshit

>>76464911
So cico is useless?

>>76463393 (OP)
Fat ass trying to demoralise other fatties

Tribe and train brothers

>>76463393 (OP)
>CICOtards will tell you this guy does 4 hours of cardio a day and fasts for 2 weeks
bot, he uses CO part bot, he puke :D

I'm already getting riled up this early in the thread. i'm leaving

>>76465706
Heheh pwned.

>>76465479
Of course not. CI < CO = weight loss is the fundamental calculus. Don't eat 10,000 calories a day like a fat fuck. Consistently eat below TDEE and you will lose weight.

>>76463393 (OP)
>does 4 hours of cardio a day and fasts for 2 weeks
Probably, but the point is that he will feel sick after a while and potentially will vomit without reaching the final number of donuts. Also, as somebody pointed out gust's work and metabolism are different between races (seems Asian) and people within the same race (you know this, right?).
I will not search for the dude basically because I think all these kind of crappy "achievements" are fake as hell most of the time.

>>76463393 (OP)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Energy_Balance_Network
Daily reminder that Coca Cola created an organization specifically to promote the idea of CICO and deflect from the effects of diet quality.

>>76466254

>>76466263
No one mentioned keto, Moxyte

>>76465712
That’s pwn3d, zoomie.

>>76465468
Yeah, you're right. They're just magic people who suffer no consequences or weight gain from eating 10,000 calories at once.

>>76465468
>People who openly showcase disordered eating habits surely don't privately have disordered eating habits.
Yeah bro throwing up would be totally weird

>>76466254
>math is fake because coke exists

>>76463393 (OP)
He eats all that and then pukes them out friend.

>>76463410
FATFUCK OP BTFO

>>76465479
You have actual mental retardation.

>>76467108
not an argument

>>76467435
Not everything is

>>76463393 (OP)
Ah, I see you seem to think 100 krispy kreme(TM) donuts are his daily food! Common misconception, but this is a "Challenge video" where he engages in a challenge, presumably as a one off, though he may have a series where he does this intermittently. In this case it is reasonable to assume he likely does not eat much the next day and maintains an otherwise active lifestyle!
I can see why you might think this is a problem as a daily diet, that would be concerning! I cannot however, understand why you'd mistake this as a daily diet video unless you were a sub 70IQ mouthbreathing retard.
Hope this helps!

>>76463397
Many such cases!

>>76465351
hehe

>>76465479
Calories don't exist. CICO is just a model that has been studied and works. The only thing that it is, and is trying to be, is useful.

That is, if you calculate the magic number of your "TDE", and you eat foods for which the sum of their magic number we call the "calorie count" is less than the TDE, then the prediction of the calorie model is that you'll lose weight.

The calorie model was not designed to account for gigantic binges for which the formulas refined by research to accurately predict weight changes break down.

CICO is a practical model. It is not an actual principled study of the underlying nature of human digestion. Something that accurate would be far to complicated and high resolution for the purposes of not being a fat ass.

>>76467849
>Calories don't exist.
retard
> CICO is just a model that has been studied and works. The only thing that it is, and is trying to be, is useful.
nothing statement
>redditspace
>That is, if you calculate the magic number of your "TDE", and you eat foods for which the sum of their magic number we call the "calorie count" is less than the TDE, then the prediction of the calorie model is that you'll lose weight.
nothing statement
>redditspace
>The calorie model was not designed to account for gigantic binges for which the formulas refined by research to accurately predict weight changes break down
retard
>redditspace
>CICO is a practical model. It is not an actual principled study of the underlying nature of human digestion.
retard
>Something that accurate would be far to complicated and high resolution for the purposes of not being a fat ass.
only worthwhile portion of your post

>>76463410
does he do 2 food challenges a week? Or is Friday like a refeed day so he doesn't feel too shitty. Why the 6000 calories day

>>76467866

Calorie counting retards for gaining mass or losing mass are so dumb.

Check Homeostasis you tard asses

>>76467457
You just repeated what I wrote in the OP to make fun of you. Smartest cicobot

>>76467866
>retard
Nigger.
>nothing statement
Wrong.
>redditspace.
Wrong. I'm separating distinct points. Exhibit Nigger: there are 2 consecutive sentences in point 4.
>retard
Double nigger.
>retard
Triple nigger.
>only worthwhile portion of your post
Kiss my dick eat my ass.

>>76468262
>OP has such a scumsucker bottomfeeder level IQ he doesn't comprehend "mocking"
telling. now tell me, how would you have felt if you hadn't had lunch yesterday?

>>76463410
if he was eating 3,000 calories a day he would be fatter though

>>76468618
And adult man exercising for 2 hours per day can easily reach 3k

>>76463393 (OP)
Do you really think he's not vomiting it all out once he's done with recording? This site is becoming more retarded with each year

>>76468706
Lol "easily"

>>76469453
Yes, running for 2 hours burns about 1k calories. Average human burns 2k calories just by existing, together that's 3k. Absolute state of bodybuilding shitters.

>>76470123
>bodybuilding shitters
Have a higher TDEE than runners because increased muscle mass increases BMR.

>>76470123
Thanks for not addressing hre point I made at all.

>>76470123
Thanks for not addressing the point I made at all.

>>76469453
This is hard for you maybe because you're slaving away in some shitty job
The guy in question is a rich youtuber who has infinite free time to keep his body /fit/

>>76470986
Nobody's talking about the Guardian question. It was a general statement.

CICOtards now think everyone who eats a lot of calories pukes them out. This is not a serious model guys

>>76470986
Wasn't talking about the guy in question. It was a general statement based on the statement that was made previously.

>>76470993
And the general statement is correct

>>76470995
why is it so hard to believe that someone can eat say 10k calories one day. maybe fast the next day, then eat 1.6k calories per day the next 5 days and end a week with a daily average of 2,571 calories and have gained no weight? why is that hard to believe?

and for the case of like the 19k calories in a single day in the OP, his weight probably did tick up a few lbs once water weight and such was settled over a week or two, why is that so hard to believe? do you think he eats 19k calories in a single sitting every single week?

I don’t understand how anyone thinks cico doesn’t work. it’s basic thermodynamics. are some calories better or worse than others? Sure, but the premise remains the same

>>76466254
ive wondered for a long time why i can drink upwards of 2 liters of mountain dew a day and not gain weight, makes sense my body is just completely fucking off with the calories in it because its all processed goyslop.

im sure if i eat that much calories in meat or oats, barley etc id gain weight

>>76471120
That's the dumbest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

I want you to think about that. I think you've posted the stupidest fucking thing I've seen on /fit, of all places, in weeks at least.

>>76471032
Stop falling for ketoschizo's bait newfriend

rate this meal that kekke aka ketoschizo posted

>>76463393 (OP)
i know him irl and he does actually do 4 hours of cardio a day and does fast for weeks at a time

>>76463393 (OP)
He shits out everything partially/undigested.

>>76465479
What do you think CICO stands for? The calories you shit out without absorbing either aren't part of CI, or they are part of CO.

>>76467915
If calorie counting makes me a retard, why did counting calories allow me to bulk up to 90 kg and cut back down to 85?

>>76463393 (OP)
My personal blog:

I'm willing to believe giga binges like that are much less efficient at absorbing calories. How much I have no idea because it's never been relevant to me

Obviously CICO is the bottom line with a lot of hay to be made out of the CO. Better quality food helps you feel good and continue moving around. I lost 30lbs by following the fundamentals.

One time I was in Japan for a few weeks and lost a lot of weight while not even trying. I would get cakes from 7/11, eat whenever and whatever I wanted and still lost weight. It makes me believe that there's something more than the sum of its calories and protein about food quality.

I still don't care about fasting, keto, carnivore, etc.

>>76471032
Bro, your liver can't produce enough bile to digest all the fat in those donuts. And your body can't produce enough insulin to store all those carbs. He's going to get explosive diarrhea and piss out a lot of the carbs as glucose. He's not actually ingesting as many calories as the anti-cico retards ITT seem to think.

>>76471120
Yeah, I'm sure it's that you're just a magic person/processed foods magically doesn't affect weight gain and not that you're lying about the amount of soda that you drink or your actual weight.

>>76473396
>I'm willing to believe giga binges like that are much less efficient at absorbing calories
You're quite correct. You might want to look into this https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dumping-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20371915

Basically what it is is your stomach gives up trying to digest so much food since you've essentially put an otherworldly amount of fuel into the tank and just moves it almost directly from your stomach to your intestine and then out, to eliminate the burden. And this obviously causes undigested food and diarrhea and thus malabsorption of calories.

>>76473396
>One time I was in Japan for a few weeks and lost a lot of weight while not even trying
it's probably not just the food, when I went on vacation there I walked 30k steps daily, also the sweets in Japan on average seemed less sugary to me than in the West. But yeah the ingredients and their quality probably make some difference too

>>76471094
It only works if you are obese

>>76463410
Because the extreme examples refute the claims. What are you retarded?

>>76465351
If CICO worked for fatties they wouldn’t be able to deny it. They deny it precisely because it doesn’t work. They’re fat precisely because it doesn’t work.

The problem with CICO is somehow that translates to the advice of “restrict calories”. But CICO implies an exchange of calories out AND CALORIES IN. So the advice completely ignores 1/2 of the equation. Actually, it’s worse than that because it also ignores relationships between the two and confounding variables in general. Everybody knows that if you lower calories enough, your metabolism will decrease to meet it, rendering calorie restriction virtually useless for fat loss. And yet, the same people who an admit this go full retard when giving advice and just boil it all down to “count calories”. It’s not that simple. Never has been. You have to maintain the CO in CICO at such a level that there is always a deficit. It’s so obvious it should go without saying and yet…

>>76475041
>to lose weight you have to eat less AND work out
great detective work sherlock
>eat less move more, read the fucking sticky

>>76463393 (OP)
I can carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen Krispy Kremes at the same time...

>>76475020
Huh, you're the retard
The extreme example refutes nothing because its extreme and unrealistic, you dont need to do 4 hours of cardio a day and fast for 2 weeks
You can just eat less and balance it out in a week
CICO wins again, you stay retarded

>>76475041
>Everybody knows that if you lower calories enough, your metabolism will decrease to meet it
Nobody says this because its not true, there is a limit to how low your metabolism can go
Your body will still stay alive on any caloric deficit, you think your body can reduce the metabolistic calorie requirement from 2k down to 1k?
No it can't

>>76463410
CICO is what allows this idiot to eat like, well, a fucking idiot. CICO cultists are perfectly fine with chugging 8L of zero cal slop a day because calories (made up btw) are the end all be all of weight management, which to them is the end goal of fitness. Absolute lunacy on all fronts, crazy how some people still defend any of this.

>>76476052
Nobody says that, weight is not the end-all-be-all metric of health
But being lean instead of obese trumps whatever negative effects you could have from drinking zero calorie slop
There is nuance in health but some things are simply more important than others

>>76475027
they deny it because they are weak minded
which is evidenced by how fat they are

>>76475027
So why does CICO work for bodybuilders but not fatties?

>>76475041
>If I reduce my calories to zero my metabolism will adjust to require zero calories
Fucking idiot lmao

>>76465479
you're retarded as shit

>>76463393 (OP)
Calories In:
>Man eats 100 Krispy Kreme doughnuts
Calories Out:
>Man throws up 100 Krispy Kreme doughnuts