Thread 76485212

>Who is /fat/ for?
For fastidious feasters working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76481441

i can’t stop fucking fat women lol

>>76485216
You have never had sex

>>76485216
Always with the rp here...

Me are fat

>starting to see underside of belly in mirror.
Wagmi

>i wake up with morning wood again
getting healthy means you get good boners anon

Through my weigh loss journey and I'm starting to get a bit worried. Girl titties are not entirely going away. Like there's muscle, have been doing all types of push ups I've found online for the past year and there's still fat. I'm at 11% body fat give or take. Is that normal? How do I get rid of it? Less fat %? Or specific exercises that target that area? If that's the case, please keep it equipment free, I got a tough family situation and poor as fuck

still going strong
Had two cups of coffee with milk today, that was everything I ate. Surprisingly this has been my easiest fast so far. I haven't had any hunger pangs today whatsoever, just the feeling of an empty stomach and the constant thinking about food that happens every fast.
Tomorrow I have a long day of hard labor cutting down trees though so that should be fun while fasted... lol

>>76485303
>Had two cups of coffee with milk today
Then you aren't fasting

>>76485300
Tits and/or gyno are part genetics so some people just draw the short straw regarding that. Just keep losing or look for surgery if nothing else works. Also
>11% body fat
Doubt, but if true what are you even doing here? This is fatty country, skellies keep moving.

>>76485300
if you've been fat since you were young, you probably aromatized too much and have developed glandular breast tissue. just keep working out and one day you can save and get it removed

Fasting is just like taking ozempic

You lose weight quick but then when you try to eat food normally you balloon back up again

Learn to eat how you would expect to eat when you're slim. Its no life starving yourself constantly just so you can lose 20lbs to regain it 4 weeks later and do it all again

>>76485303
this >>76485321
Milk has calories, you broke your fast. You're just on a highly restrictive calorie diet right now, but not fasting. Fasting means zero consumed calories and nothing that triggers an insulin response. Black coffee and tea are okay because they have no calories and don't trigger any insulin response, artificial sweeteners in zero-calorie drinks like diet-soda or water enhancers aren't okay because they trigger an insulin response despite the zero-calories which breaks your fast. If you want the benefits of fasting (Blood sugar drops, HGH increase, ketosis, Autophagy, ect) you need to actually avoid eating any calories or triggering an insulin response for the duration of your fast.

>>76485350
what an absolute crock of shit

>went from pants size 42 to 40

motivated again

>>76485364
Milk in your coffee is definitely not fasting, sorry.

>>76485376
Well coffee has calories, so coffee isn't fasting either.

>>76485364
Sorry, your fast ended when you consumed the milk. Start over and try again.

Watch out for sugar-free gum too, another common mistake that'll break your fast.

>>76485380
By fastards logic it ended the second he consumed coffee. Coffee doesn't have very many calories, but like >>76485350 said: "Fasting means zero consumed calories" plus anything that provokes an insulin response. So no diet soda either. Also make sure you don't smell food, which also triggers an insulin response.

>>76485331
>Doubt
Yeah, I've seen pics online of people at 11% and I don't look like that so doubt it as well. I'm at 11-13% depending on where I look it up

>but if true what are you even doing here? This is fatty country, skellies keep moving.

Look man, I went from 120 kg to 84. If that wasn't fatty, I don't even know anymore

>start taking creatine again after not taking it for months
>have to piss every 30min
Why does this shit happens

>>76485401
Post a pic, I doubt you're as lean as you think

>>76485379
Again its about the insulin response, black coffee does have calories, but its low enough (I believe something like <10 per cup) and typically doesn't trigger an insulin response. You can test your piss for ketones if you want to see if you're actually still fasted or not after a black coffee, but milk coffee will certainly break a fast. If you've got ketones in your piss it means you're burning fat instead of glucose which is the point of fasting over just restricting calories, which is what you're doing now that you broke your fast. Test strips are cheap and a reliable way to check if you're actually in ketosis or not.

Usually its best just to drink water (or snake juice) during a fast if you want to actually be fasting.

>>76485406
I just said I doubt I'm at 11% as well, just what body % calculators show online if I put my height, weight, neck and waist meassures in.

>on my cut
>find myself actively browsing and posting on /ck/
why do i torture myself like this?

>>76485321
>>76485350
>>76485376
>>76485380
>Purity spiraling
>on fasting of all things
Good thing there's a study that shows even going up to 250 calories of pure carbs a day while fasting still gives you all of the benefits of a zero calorie fast.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6861737/

>drink a cup of coffee with 50 cals of milk
>IT'S OVER MY FAST IS BROKEN GUESS I GOTTA FAST ANOTHER 48 HOURS FOR HGH INCREASES
is this seriously how you retards think it works?

>>76485401
>Look man, I went from 120 kg to 84
Yeah, well my point was that if you're 11% bf you're pretty much done here and should be hanging in the other threads with the rest of the chads. You're no longer /fat/, congratulations.

>>76485458
Fatty cope

>>76485463
What if he has phantom fat syndrome?

>>76485475
My dude I guarantee you I weigh less than everyone in this thread and probably 95% of the men on this board >>76482027

>>76485401
How tall are you? Because I'm at 85kg 178cm rn and I'm still huge

finished the sugary peaches
I can never buy these again. I will falter

>>76485484
Fat shit

>>76485492
I'm 195 cm give or take

>>76485505
Ah damn that's why, I've lost 25kgs but i dont see a huge difference except for my face

>>76485458
>Good thing there's a study that shows even going up to 250 calories of pure carbs a day while fasting still gives you all of the benefits of a zero calorie fast.
So do that and don't say you're fasting because you're not. It's like saying you were in the marines when you were a reservist, they're similar in many ways but one is not the other and you did no fast.

>>76485484
>I guarantee you I weigh less than everyone in this thread
Yeah but you haven't fasted longer than me and you never will.

>>76485526
>going up to 250 calories of pure carbs a day while fasting
>while fasting
>still gives you all of the benefits of a zero calorie fast.

Can we just have discussion about weightloss instead of fastfags swinging their desiccated dicks at each other?

>>76485544
>while fasting
Those are your words and you don't know what fasting means so...
No-one here agrees with you, better restart your app and next time if it's such a little thing that doesn't even matter surely you can do without the milk.

>>76485458
I've tried these things and have noticed there is a downside, eating makes you want to eat more and spirals out of control.
Eating often makes you more hungry.
Fasting for me is more of a psychological trick than about physics of maximum calorie deficit.

>>76485551
i feel very proud on the days i remain under my calorie allowance.
>>76485570
until very recently (relatively speaking) the average person was very physical all their life. as tech advanced the average person doesn't HAVE to move around as much to keep the world going

I haven't counted calories in a year now and am rly close to 10% bf, just eye ball portion sizes and use tablespoons instead, like I know my oatmeal needs 6tbsp everyday, 200ml of skim milk and 1tsp of cinnamon powder with a banana.
Same for lunch, I know I should only use 5-6tbsp of cooked rice, the chicken, red meat or fish is eyeballed, I already know the portion sizes inside my head and I can feel their weight while picking it up with a fork, I can tell 2 medium sized chicken breasts equals roughly 160-180g.
It's easy to track ur shit when ur eating healthy foods, like eggs as another example, it's tricky when you're eating goyslop and has no fucking idea how many condiments or other shit X food has gone thru

>>76485605
>skim milk

I'll leave my whole fatty milk for when I'm back on the small clean bulk surplus my nga

This general was like 80% less schizo last year. I guess eventually the retards will arrive.

>>76485519
Dude 25 kg is huge. Congrats man

>>76485598
Physical activity has been increasing for a while now. People are now more active than what they were a few decades back, yet during the same time period fatness has increased.

>>76485605
desu this sounds like you still have a calorie count estimator built in and you are still doing it consciously
like the other post said, people were able to stay lean before calorie was invented, before numeracy even

Animool in nature also stay lean without counting calories
but we don't live in nature

>Increased resistance on the rowing machine yesterday
>My entire back, upper arms, legs and even chest (somehow?) hurt today
I will NOT let this fucking plateau break me.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;

>absolutely belting rain sideways, typhoon level wind
>going going to stop for another 12 hours
>smartwatch says I'm only at 300 steps today
what's the best cardio I can do at home with no equipment?

>>76485212 (OP)
"Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE on HIM whom he hath sent (not on IT, a tradition/religion)."
(John, 6)

>What does "believe on him" mean?
Same as the word belief normally means: an intangible and immediate acknowledgment in the mind, inwardly: >John 8:30
"AS HE SPAKE THESE WORDS, many believed on him."

Beware of the leaven (heretical doctrines) of the scribes and Pharisees and Roman Catholics, who seek to replace Christ with their traditions and pride.

>>76485690
Star jumps or step ups.

>>76485690
If you had a walking pad you wouldn't have this issue

Mounjaro Day 2:
(These won't be daily)

It's kinda weird. I don't feel hungry at all. There's just no sensation there any more. I know my body is basically saying "Hey, don't you normally eat about now?" but, it's like a small light turns on and you can just ignore it, rather than a full sound alert with vibration.
Obviously I'm not just going to stop eating. I've got a meal plan for today, and I'll see how I get on with it.
But, I can see how people would get pretty fucked up on this, it feels like you can just ignore the need to eat entirely.

>stop weighing myself daily for the past 3 weeks because it was fucking with my mental
>now im afraid to weigh myself at all
why am i like this

>>76485690
>what's the best cardio I can do at home with no equipment?
>with no equipment?
Star jumps as >>76485696 suggested is probably best, but comparatively high intensity if you do it properly. When I was even more out of shape than now I used to do VR sports games, but games like beatsaber only use your hands, so I'd run in place while playing it.
You can do that without a VR distraction too, just run without moving, basically. The speed and how high you raise your legs controls intensity. Your downstairs neighbors will love you if you have any.

how salvagable is my loose skin /fat/ties? I'm about to begin full-time weight training after losing lots of fat and I want to temper my expectations for my appearance as I make progress. should it tighten up after a some months of training? my worst fear is that surgery might be necessary.

>>76485696
good idea, step ups will probably be better to not annoy the guy in the room under me

I usually just search "home cardio no equipment" on youtube and follow along with whichever chick has the nicest ass in the thumbnail lol

>>76485727
>walking pad
I was thinking about getting one actually, but I can't decide between one of those mini treadmills, or a compact stationary bike. The cheap bikes are like $50 more on Amazon than the cheapest treadmills, but they both seem like the kind of shitty Chinese electronics that will break after a month

>>76485740
>stop weighing myself daily for the past 3 weeks because it was fucking with my mental
That's reasonable, it's probably an unpopular opinion in this thread, buy back when I was depressed I also took a break which was a net positive probably.
>now im afraid to weigh myself at all
Rip the bandaid off. You being able to verbalize it is already a first step. You can't fight a demon if you can't see it, so just do it. Maybe even better, take a photo of the scale and send it in the thread as a response. I'll be appreciative and it'll be proof you did it.
>>76485751
Not going to lie anon, it's not great. There's 3 things you can do for now:
- Give it some time, skin will keep tightening just by itself for the next year or so.
- Do proper skincare, the op netlify post has some info, short; moisturize, exfoliate, retinol, collagen. Make sure no fungi grow on the overlapping areas
- Do weight training to build muscle. It'll be good regardless and stretch it out a bit.
Chances are it'll not 100% go away, because that's the front of your belly, growing many muscles there is hard. It might very well get small enough that you will be "okay" with it though. If you feel like you need/want surgery, you can always get that later.
Good job on your progress so far, it's inspiring.

>>76485484
Post body faggot

a lot of not-making-it in this thread

Fatty Contest
ReformedNihilist
82.8kg

>>76485829
reformednihilist here

i think they need to let go, reading through this thread regularly is a sure way for them to make themselves neurotic,
with slow progress as with fat loss and muscle building,
it takes a almost zen like detachment

Fatty Contest
KartveliGoliati
137.5kg
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Yesterday i ate 4800kcals XD

>>76485751
Takes 12~24 months at your new weight for your skin to reach its new point of homeostasis, but don't expect miracles its not all going to go away but it will tighten up more than what you've got if you manage to keep it off that long. So give it a year, focus on maintenance and keeping the weight off, and if you're still unhappy with your loose skin this time next year consider surgery. I haven't seen anything that really reduces considerable loose skin other than time or surgery. The various creams and supplements have mild effects but you've got drastic amounts of loose skin the creams and supplements aren't going to magically make it go away.

>>76485870
Your chart is peak NGMI

>>76485890
well, my chart is wrong

>losing weight at a good rate
>but hairline thinning even faster now
God why, I'm too young for this, why have you forsaken me

>>76485931
Your testosterone is probably up, being fat and inactive suppressed it. Now that you're less fat and presumably more active your higher DHT levels are hitting your hair follicles. Lots of guys have the mutation that makes their hair susceptible to DHT. Hop on Min/Fin asap to preserve what hair you have left. The stuff that's already gone likely isn't coming back but you can mostly save what's left if you get on it now.

Fatty Contest
TheThrongler
61kg

The weight just keeps goin down and I've just started taking creatine again, I need to start doing a few maintenance refeeds.

>>76485870
Not to be that guy sweaty, but numba supposed to go down.

>>76485945
>Lots of guys have the mutation that makes their hair susceptible to DHT.
It's ridiculous. My father had long perfect hair in his 40s, both my grandparents had barely any hair loss in their 90s, my older brother is fine, but I started losing hair at 18

>>76485957
i know, and it will go down

>>76485966
Well I hope you've come up with a new strategy friend, your chart is the definition of yo-yo dieting.

>>76485945
Please understand you can permanently use function of your dick, have a permanently weakened dick, or if you're lucky takes over a year/years to recover use of your dick if you're one of the 5%ish that reapond negatively and get PFS.

Do not take Finn lightly, understand it is a huge gamble(but one in your favor)

>>76485974
So my choice is either lose all my hair and look like shit, or potentially chemically castrate myself to hold onto what I have left?

This sucks man.

>>76485981
Just take the hair piece pill bro. Finasteride will give you gyno and going bald is not an option

>>76485981
Just think of putting a plunger on your bald head and having a chuckle at yourself over it. It's not worth your dick. Your dick is your homie, your guy, your dude.

>>76485981
No he’s just fearmongering
Post finasteride syndrome is not real
You can just try it and hop off anytime if you really have sides

>>76486154
>PFS isn't real
>Empty Nose Syndrome isn't real
>Protracted Benzo Withdrawal isn't real
Big Pharma shill trying to pretend deugs/procedures NEVER permanently ruin lives.

>>76486157
Pharma hates fin because it
Can’t be patented and is dirt cheap
We have actual evidence from countless trials that debunks it
Let the man keep his hair you pathetic crab

>>76486157
Sure, it can happen, but, the chances of it doing so are pretty tiny.
There's millions of guys on hair loss products. It's a billion dollar industry.
You're telling me that millions of guys have widespread broken dick syndrome and nobody is talking about it but conspiracy forums and 4chan?

Lets see your fridge /fat/, you're not hiding any slop are you?

>belly still hangs
>love handles still massive
just want to cut this shit off at this point desu

>start running a bit for cardio health
>lose 7 pounds in a month
Damn, I didn't know it was that easy. I might try bulk/cut cycles.

>>76486243
Schizo fridge

>lose another 0.5 pound after burning 1000 cal on the stairmaster last night
Feels good to win

i regret starting creatine, seeing the scale go up has not been good

>>76486355
I bought creatine, took two scoops, got scared of hair loss, didn't touch it again

>>76485109
>>76485109
Okay so update on this. I had a bad stomach ache and took shit after shit, I guess for whatever reason I was hella backed up despite eating normally as I do
woke up 4lbs lighter

TRUST THE PLAN

>>76486371
it's not going to cause hair loss but the water retention sucks >_<

>>76486371
same

>>76486371
>>76486392
Although I'm 90% convinced it's lifting and/or fat loss that causes hair loss due to hormonal fuckery, and creatine gets blamed by association.

>>76486400
For past 12 months I take forskolin (natural test booster), lost a ton of weight, gained a fair amount of muscle, and still kept my NW2 hairline that i've had for 16+ years which still looks exactly like my father's
And I'm still scared of creatine.

>>76486411
Creatine does not cause hair loss. It does make your brain super powered and make women sex you though. Your choice.

>first day of cut was kinda ehh, too much worry about food
>second day is almost over and i've only had 800 calories and feel way better overall
well that was a quick adjustment

>>76486418
I unironically want the brain superpower thing

starting to think fatphobia is real with how much better I get treated just from no longer being obese
can't imagine how it will be at a normal weight

ive been dialed and locked in for so long that even a refeed on sunday with chicken, rice and pasta is making me feel guilty

>>76486355
it sucks, but it hopefully works out. Water is a bitch for fucking with you when you start tracking everything. Pic related. Am getting smaller (less fat means more everything else as a percentage), am I more wet, is the scale just fucked, nobody knows, but I'll waste time trying to solve this bullshit for absolutely no gains.

>>76486430
the superpower thing is more about not getting dementia. Enjoying your final decade without yelling at nurses for stealing your stuff and not waking up screaming because you don't know where you are every morning is a type of power.

>>76486451
it works both ways and fatties will stop talking to you. People just like people who look like them. They idiot brains think "if they look like me, then they must like the same things I do."

>>76486355
how long are you using it for? for me it was the other way around, I started taking creatine, and as a consequence started drinking more water and pissing more and the scale has been going down even faster, shit feels like a thermogenic while also giving me some strength

>>76486451
it is bro, im lean and i cant take bald or fat people seriously when they are speaking or doing anything at all, its just a subconscious thing, we normal humans see them as ogres or subhumans with 0 discipline, perseverance or humanity

>>76485751
Height, starting weight, current weight?

>>76486481
>>76486492
i started yesterday so some of that gain is probably cope

>cutting
>going real slow, hit a plateau
>cycling for 2-5 hours a week, zone 2-5
>don't eat breakfast, eating a small lunch
>hungry AF the rest of the day if it's under 900 calories
>need to fuel for the rides too
>take a break from cycling to join wife who just started walking a lot
>now 500 calories for lunch is easy, fine the rest of the day
>weight loss resumed, kind of extreme, down 3 lbs in a week
>got a bit scared it was going too fast and pigged out a day when it went to 4 lbs a week
cardio is a meme
although rooning worked great when I was younger but I didn't even need to count back then

1500 feels so good

>>76486578
body is weird and will often dump water when you ease off the energetic stress by either not working out as hard or having a higher calorie day

>>76485449
I once got through a 7day fast lurking /ck/ every day.

>>76486578
you need a better meal before cycling. and ideally you'll eat it 90-120mins before your cycling.

>>76486494
I've recently seen a totally bald shaved guy with zero facial hair but 100% style pull two girls at the same time
I've never seen a fat guy do the same
Fat = death sentence for life

Anyone else struggling with facing the reality of all the years they wasted obese? I spent my entire 20's as an obeast and did nothing, i just sat inside and drank until i passed out and made no progress in life. I have no friends now as a result and no gf. Things are getting better but the mental battle of those wasted years is getting harder and harder.

I stopped being hungry these last two days
It started when I didn't bring a lunch to work and just ate a cereal bar instead of buying one.
I got home, ate some peanut butter and crackers, then two tuna sandwiches before I slept.
When I woke up, I didn't bring a lunch again, there weren't any cereal bars at work so I just drank water for lunch and came home and was going to eat, but the hunger wasn't bad and I haven't eaten in 24 hours now. I don't have a headache or feel weak or anything, my feet got cold for an hour or so and that's it. I'm going to sleep to make it a 32 hour fast. I'll probably eat when I wake up, unless I don't feel like it.
While my ghrelin is waning I'm going to push and lose another 20 pounds with intermittent fasting.

Fatty Contest
Greaser
90.4kg

>>76486692
>trick your brain into thinking that there's plenty of food around and you aren't starving
that's brilliant.

>>76486700
when people say fat guys can pull, I think it means "a little chubby"
not 250+ lb monsters

>>76486792
>>76486692
I don't get too strong of urges to binge eat. They're all manageable. I can go months without binge eating no problem. I don't understand how some people allow themselves to succomb to those urges. They aren't weak when they come, but as I said it's definitely manageable. It hits me at like 30% of my capacity to resist I think, so they would need to be much stronger to make me fall.

>>76486795
my weight has been all over the place and I pulled the most at 215 pounds and 6 food. You are right on the money with 250. Over 250 its very hard and you are really only getting fat girls. When I was all the way down at 170 I had abs and stuff but I was markedly less attractive to women.

>6 months in
>16 months until slim
this blows

Fatty Contest
ClandestineCalamity
86.5

>>76486758
Can't relate
I'm just losing weight for my health and I'm generally appalled by how other people behave and think

>>76485212 (OP)
So i'm really confused on these calculators and stuff. I'm 6'3 160lbs but super skinny fat like 20% body fat. I don't know how much I should be eating to recomp and be lean. I walk 30 minutes a day and do light exercise daily (lifting). IDK what to do but I was plateaued for like a month. Lost 5 pounds these last 2 weeks but no visible difference.

Bros I need help I don’t know what to do.

I started a cut at 245 ilbs about 6-7 months ago and now I’m at 155. I know it’s victim weight but I never had much muscle mass and just wanted to lose the fat first then worry about that later, plus my newbie gains have helped a lot even on this cut. I want to have visible abs and from what I can pinch and imagine I probably have about 5-7 pounds left until they’re visible I’m so damn close. My issue is I had such an easy time dieting up until I reached 160, I didnt really feel hunger after the first month and was hyper focused on losing the weight. Ever since I’ve gotten into the 150s though I’m absolutely starving and idk what to do. I can keep it up for a few days at a time but I keep either caving and eating a bunch in one day or slowly eating a bit over my deficit. I’ve been plateaued at 155 for a couple weeks now. I think I’m a bit depressed and eating out of boredom but even in my good days I find it hard to ever feel full. Should I cheat for a little while to try and satiate my cravings? Should I just start maintaining and trying to build muscle? I really want abs but I feel like I’m just spinning my wheels at this point. If it helps at the moment I’m 6’3, 155.2 ilbs, and on a deficit of 1650kcals a day. I also work a lot and do a lot of cardio so should I maybe just cut a bit less harshly and have it take longer? My newbie gains are gone and I want to go back to gaining strength rather than keeping it.

>>76486840
>6 food
lel
I guess 'bear mode' really is what they want. did you have tits at 215?

maybe it depends on your frame. I'm the same height and I'd feel like a twink at 170

>>76486898
>6’3
>155.2 lbs
what the fuck anon
eat 200-300 above maintenance and lift hard

>>76486898
you're very underweight

>>76486898
You're at a normal weight, could still gain to lose some more perhaps, but only you know that. Don't let faggot Americans who think every man should weigh 200 lbs or more tell you otherwise.

>>76486588
nice

>>76486898
>6'3"
>-90lbs in 6 months
>155lbs

brother you traded one bad eating habit on one extreme for a bad eating habit in the other extreme. you're supposed to develop a healthy eating habit, which is eating 2 - 3 meals a day at a set calorie limit.
you've lost plenty of fat, and probably also burned a good bit of muscle too. get your 50/25/25 macros set, and eat a couple hundred above your maintenence consistently, and with control. you gotta bulk now while weightlifting. dont fucking binge.
you should also change your mindset say goodbye to the /fat/ threads. move over to the beginner lifting threads. your fat loss journey is done, you need to gain muscle now, which in your case is pretty imperative.

I have disgusting fat distribution that probably won't look good even when I reach my goal weight what should I do?

>>76486693
I think I'll just stick to the walking as 1500 is now easy af to do
my libido, cum Volume, and erection strength are all better now I'm worried I might just give up cycling after investing so much in it
and it's been a while but I thought I solved it with a deep channel saddle, as I no longer got numb penis
maybe Ill go full boomer and get a recumbent, I wanted one at first for the aero (I was actually fixated on getting a velo Mobile but they are so expensive)
or maybe I'll try it after I drop more weight as it should be less weight on my internal penis on the saddle too

>>76486758
What is done is done. Move on, at least you've learned some hard lessons, and do not waste your remaining time.

We all have regrets in our lives, if not about obesity it would be something else. Don't let it drag you.

>>76486758
Sadly yes. Especially the dating side of things. I could have had more dates and more experience I feel I've lost and have no way of taking back

>>76486758
Shit i just turned 25 a few weeks ago and made the realization I spent 18 - 24 as a fat fuck, that hit me like a bus. Here's hoping I reach my GW by December, and build decent muscle within the next 6 months. No more will I inherently get less respect in social spots because of my fat.

>>76486693
Yeah bro I learned the hard way. I always thought it was a meme that you need to eat before cycling but one time I hit this low blood sugar episode and literally turned pale as a ghost and puked and thought I was dying. Then I ate some chips and instantly felt better so I know it was blood sugar and not dehydration.

I am not sure if this is normal for cycling on an empty stomach or indicative that I have pre-diabetes or some shit.

Fatty Contest
LivingGod
69.1kg

>>76486898
Post body or bullshit

>>76487061
>What is done is done.
It feels so bad.
What once was happy now is sad.

>>76486898
You're supposed to be doing recomp, not decomp.

Okay gonna start a 1600kcal calorie diet tomorrow and stick with it until I reach my goal weight. How long does it take to get used to this crap?

>>76486758
I don't know my parents raised me as fat, I got siblings and they never forced them to eat too much so that feels great.

>>76487232
The fact you're already asking is a sign you're ngmi

>>76487232
it doesn't end, but about a month until you get your shit together. Getting your tare tricks sorted helps a lot.

>>76487240
holy fuck stop. Every fucking comment. So tired of this shit. Please confirm you aren't the biggest piece of shit by not replying ngmi.

>>76487252
Yeah you are 100% peak ngmi.

>>76487257
you are a sad pathetic piece of shit.

welp time for filters.

>>76487281
You say this like i'm supposed to care. You do realise you're an irrelevant nobody, right?

>>76487232
of course you are anon

You know lads, if this whole weight-loss thing doesn't pan out, we can always do Fat-Guy-Fight-Club.

>>76487305
sumo wrestling already exists

>>76487311
those guys train more than anyone on this board.

>>76487317
by train do you mean eating?

Lads i'm about to order a pizza stop me please

>>76487297
Instead of what retard, enter a time machine and restart today?

>>76487326
I bet you don't have an inner monologue

>>76487324
go ahead and eat it you fucking fat fuck

>>76487326
there is a troll about, probably a crab bucket.

If you are looking for ideas:
do you have your meals planned?
what exercises do you have planned for tomorrow, is there something you can do today?
have you checked that you have the things you need for your changes. Workout clothes, shoes, cooking supplies, groceries.
Have you removed the shit from your house, if that is possible.

>>76487326
Just don’t eat anything else today if you’ve already had too much.

>>76487477
>do you have your meals planned?
Only got 1 meal plan and it'll have to do. I can't cook and trying to learn anything else will mess with calories too much.

>what exercises do you have planned for tomorrow, is there something you can do today?
Exercises isn't the problem, diet was always the problem. But just gonna do a minimal amount so I don't get too hungry.

>Have you removed the shit from your house, if that is possible.
I'll give some stuff away to my parents tomorrow

>>76485781
stop eating
just put the fork down
coffee and cream is all you need
you can do it

>>76487539
perfect. Go win anon.

>>76487047
I rarely if ever miss my protein goals and if lifted consistently since I’ve started. Only recently I’ve stopped gaining and that’s probably just from losing my newbie gains. I had like little to no muscle mass when I started couldn’t even bench 90ilbs. I’ve gained more muscle than I’ve lost for damn sure I just want abs. I have this twink pouch that will not go away

>>76487576
manlet

>>76487324
What kind of pizza
I'd go for a dominos right about now,
Garlic Parmesan instead of marinara
Steak, Chicken, Jalapenos and Feta
This shit is k1n0

I hit 310, then spent the week going largely off the wagon and was starting to become demoralized, was weighing in at 316 throughout the week, but today I weighed in back at 310 and it has calmed me down and helped me get my head on straight. So what I've learned is to not let a few stumbles in your progress get in your head and make you feel demoralized, because it's not as bad as it seems

Back to the grind

Fatty Contest
IgnatiusJReilly
204.8lbs

I ate the slop.

>>76487628
Id kill for a stuffed crust right now. Why is slop like this? its not even that good but I crave it anyway. Poptarts are sugary cardboard, but fuck if I dont love and crave them anyway.

>>76487628
I'm a cheese guy

>>76487628
How is the garlic parm? I always found dominos pizza sauce to be way waaay too sweet so an alternative would be nice

>talking about pizza in the fat loss general
some of you were never making it

>>76487731
it's my first one in 2 months

My.hair has just started receding(mid 30s) and am gonna ask to try Minox before gambling with my penis(Fin).

I was gonna start creatine but should I avoid it if my hair is already receding?

>>76487731
CICO is all that matters.

Could be doing OMAD, could be doing a maintenance day, etc. Some pizza can always be fit on from time to time.

>>76487782
Exactly, too bad I have to fast for 2 days after this one

>>76487773
creatine doesn't cause baldness, thats a meme.

>>76487789
That looks like a 12 inch, google says that's 1760 calories for that whole pizza.

That's a lot, but 2 day fast worthy? It that was an OMAD this would be a normal day of eating in w deficit.

Did you eat a lot of other food too today?

>>76487773
just get a hair piece bro. Your shit is going to go grey soon anyway

God I made my usual chicken stew but added some sweet potato as well this time and it was fucking amazing, shit added just the right richness to fill out the flavour. Also using fresh herbs from the garden instead of store bought probably helped

Low enough calories for my routine, nutritious, and extremely delicious. I'm in love

>>76487782
>CICO is all that matters
lol

Another day locked in to calorie deficit.

10 days in so far. Probably 2lb down.

>>76487805
I had about 600 earlier in the day too

>>76487832
Post pics and share your recipe, that chicken and broccoli stir fry recipe anon posted in the other thread was good and had great macros, so I want to try more of /fat/'s recipes.

>>76487812
I swim, a hair piece will never work for me.

>>76487712
god damn I feel like shit after this, physically and mentally

>>76487859
obviously you would wear a swimmers cap into the pool. And wear a hat most days unless you feel like putting the old rug on. Still better than being bald or limp dicked imo

Im 220 bros. How do start? Are 5 sets of chins pushups and lunges enough every 72 hours?

went to the gym, did some light lifting, just clocked in at 126 exactly

>>76487852
No pictures unfortunately. Ill share a general idea of it but You can measure and use whatever ratio of ingredients you want to to hit your preferred macros, like you could use more chicken breast or more protein, less potatos for less carbs etc


Chop up a chicken breast and throw it in the pot
Chop up potato and throw it in
A bit of diced onion
I just used carrots and celery and chickpeas this time, but I've used broccoli In the past as well and it was fine. You can also use beans, or frozen mixed veg if you want, whatever floats your boat

Then theres the sweet potato..I think you could probably chop up sweet potato and just throw it in no problem , but I'm not sure because I used some frozen cubed sweet potato i had, as well as left over fresh baked sweet potato, and I theorize that the left over baked sweet potato might have contributed to the flavour differently because it was already mush and blended seamlessly with the soup, so I'm not sure. You would have to experiment with this aspect of the recipe

Now, normally I would use chicken broth to then fill up the pot but I dont have any on hand so I just used water and added some powder chicken stock concentrate . If you do it this way you might find you need extra salt

For seasonings I used lots of rosemary, black pepper, garlic powder, thyme, salt, some bay leaves, a bit of basil but not too much, a bit of paprika

Get everything boiling for a while and as things have been going for a while I then add the secret ingrediant, a package of clubhouse Turkey gravy base. if that sounds scary, note one pack is only 80 calories and adds a SUBSTANCIAL amount of flavour

Once the base is stired in, carefully added a little bot at a time while stirring to make sure the base is dissolved and doesnt form chunks, you just let it continue boiling until you are satisfied

>>76487925

I dont remember why I started adding the base late In to the cooking process, and honestly I'm not sure if its nececairy. I guess I was worried that overcooking the base would effect the flavour? I dont know. You do want to wait at least until it is boiling hard to add it though so it doesnt form chunks

The pot I made today also had a bunch of extra left over chicken in it so that added extra calories and protein, more than I would usually have

It added up to 1200 calories give or take, about 44% protein, 39%carbs, 17% carbs, and hit 19g of fiber

But like I said, your ratio of ingrediants can be customized however you want to hit different macros

>>76487938
17% fat*

>>76487925
Another thing to note ot the type of potatoes. I used red potatoes just because that's what I had on hand. Red potatoes have a sort of creamy texture and maintain their consistency when boiled

So If you want your potatoes to really stand out and stay solid, use red potatoes

That being said, I like to have russets sometimes in my soup because they break down and become softer and seem to have a more absorbant texture, but if you boil them too long you run the risk of them breaking down too much and becoming mushy.

It's all a matter of personal taste really

>ate some cake
>it was withtin my calorie deficit
>still feel like i sinned

Fatty contest
SylveonXGlaceon
291.0lbs

Did a little fasting in that I didn't eat for Tuesday or Thursday
And look at that the number went down

Is killing yourself easier than losing weight?

>>76487988
congrats, keep it up king

>>76487998
yes

>>76488000
How cruel the world is

>>76488002
well think of the downsides, if you kill yourself then you're dead

>>76488007
why would he care if he's dead

>>76488010
well people tend to prefer living

>>76485365
Good job anon. There was a time where I couldnt fit into normal jean, but the day I finally went into the store just to try on a pair of 40's to see how I was doing and they fit is a day I will never forget. WAGMI bro.

Im glad I took notes last time I was losing weight, as for me now it is a bit of a blueprint I can always fall back on. Ive lost my way a little, but need to get back. I'm proud of the old me that was able to lose almost 120lbs but I feel like I am starting to let him down. I need my mind to be strong again, I have become weak.

It took a fucking month of increasing my dose but I finally feel the ozempic. I went to go eat my usual half a chicken dinner and I couldn’t do it. Going to have to lock in on hitting my protein now but I’m glad the shit actually affects me

>>76487812
I will go to turkey and get good hair someday

>>76487047
>beginner lifting threads
There are lifting threads that aren't /plg/????

>>76487712
I get a pizza once every 2 weeks as a treat. Its always chees, ham, chicken, bacon and egg. Mayswell get some proteins in while enjoying you 'za

>tic tacs are 0 calories
>dude this is awesome! I can endlessly eat these and not feel guilty!
>buy 2 packs and scarf them down on the every drive home
>feel kinda bloated, are these truly 0 calories?
>look it up
>according to the FDA, if your serving size is less than 5 calories, you can just put 0 on the package
>a serving size is like 1-2 mints
>that means scarfing down whole packs of these adds up quick

Pretty sneaky, and stupid. You shouldnt be able to put 0 if its not 0. Should say >~5

>>76486758
I hear ya. Good that your starting to make changes now. I was pretty sociable throughout my 20's, had friends, went out, was ok with girls, then bought my first house way out in the country, lost touch with people, become more withdrawn, starting eating too much comfort foods and got fat. Fast forward to today, I am 40 and only for the past few months feel like I am starting to make some positive change. I really need to move back into civilization again, its probably over for me to find a wife now and have a family of my own. I guess my tip is if you feel like you've wasted your 20;s, do whatever it takes not to waste your 30's

>>76488171
that sounds retarded
you're required by law to put the average calories per 100g where I live, saved my fat ass a lot in the past

>full year into my weight loss journey
>not a single gram of added sugar
>scarcely any natural sugars either
I sometimes wonder if I still have a sweet tooth, and yet I can't bring myself to do it

I am getting that six pack shortly and there's nothing goyslop manufacturers can do about it...

>>76487782
Literal room temperature IQ ngmi fatty.
What you eat is important for preventing unnecessary hunger.

Genuinely considering skipping weighing in tomorrow, I’m nervous to see how much I gained, may God forgive me. Next week will be better.

>>76488196
Every once in a while, maybe twice I year I go for a dessert or treat that looks really good. Oreos and shit do nothing for me anymore (I used to inhale a few sleeves no problem) but a slice of pistachio cake from a nice Italian restaurant or a scoop of raspberry ice cream on a hot day really hits the spot sometimes. Typically I’d just save my calories for savory food though

>>76488220
>unnecessary hunger
you're so weak you can't tank your stomach growling for a bit or what?
have fun eating chicken and rice 5 times a dauy, I'll swallow a chicken kebab whole and drink water for the rest of the day no problem

>>76488190
Yeah, none of our foods are actually tested for actual calorie content. There's tables of ingredients and calories that manufacturers look up and guesstimate what they put on the box, which is always going to be lowballed.
I always get a little laugh when a fatty gets really neurotic about counting calories.

>>76488232
you are retarded. No man has unlimited willpower. Smart people work out ways to minimize their willpower expenditure. Retards try to white knuckle and fail every time. You will be a loser until you learn exactly what I am telling you and fully understand me.

>>76488252
There is no limit to willpower
It’s all in your head

>>76488252
>No man has unlimited willpower
yes you do, just don't be a weak-willed fattie and learn to say NO

Fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in man.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC329619/?page=4

Insulin resistance reduction, intermittent fasting, and human growth hormone: secondary analysis of a randomized trial
https://www.nature.com/articles/s44324-024-00025-2

ive been cravin a 4x4 and animal fries im not gonna lie

>>76488238
I've noticed lots of mistakes on labeling. There's a store that sells bento boxes near me, and I've been avoiding getting them because one of the labels said there was ~750 kcal of plain white rice per 200g package. But thinking about it I'm pretty sure they must have looked up "how many calories in rice" and accidentally used the info for DRY rice by weight.

>>76488257
>>76488262
its really sad to see you guys be this stupid. You are in for years of pain and dissappointment. I just hope you learn before its too late.

>>76488171
what a random item choice to scarf down

>>76485970
fuck strategies. i just cico, excercise, fast for a day and eat like a pig once in a while. i just dont push myself and keep steady progress.

>>76487628
Wtf why did my post get deleted

>>76488238
That problem generally fixes itself though. Even if the foods a fatty eats are lowballed, as long as he is diligently counting and measuring his weight progress then he will just assume his maintenance is lower and adjust his intake. Neurotic counting is still the right move over time.

>hm, i've been eating "2000 calories" (actually 2500) for 4 weeks and i'm not losing any weight, better drop to "1500 calories" (actually 2000)

>>76488381
If someone holds a gun to your head then you will have all the motivation in the world

>>76488432
Too bad no one is going to hold a gun to your head for you anytime you're about to make a poor decision.

Lost about 40 lbs in the last 2 months with fasting and cutting out dogshit food. I genuinely feel fucking great, can't wait to bulk back up at the gym when I'm mentally better.
40 more lbs and I'm a healthy weight for my height, wagmi, bros. Can't believe it was this fucking easy the whole time.

>mom went to some italian/arab food convention
>brought like 30 of these
>i ate like 7 or 8
how over is it

>>76488572
>40lbs
>2months
Damn

>>76488614
vile temptress

>>76488614
its so over

im hungry

>Wanna get pam/oil spraycan to make better food
>worried i might heavy hand the spray and add a shit ton of calories to the food

>>76488692
retardmaxxing
if you're that scared of calories you are never keeping weight off in the long term, and the spray is like 30 calories anyways
I eat 4 eggs a day with at the minimum two tablespoons of butter and I'm still losing weight

I’ve only consumed 650 calories today

>>76488694
and also get the avocado oil spray (I forgot the name) but it's in every supermarket, don't get the seed oil shit

>>76488572
that's physically impossible unless you literally fasted for the full 2 months, didn't eat a single thing and you're like 600lbs and that's still pushing it

AIR FRIED FRIES KEEP COMING OUT LIKE SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>76488692
How hard is it to say 1 Mississippi? God damn.

>>76488635
>anon potentially ate 4300 calories
rip

Tomorrow I'm looking after my nephew and cooking a huge meal for everyone and it's going to be really annoying because I have no idea how to count calories and portion it out since it's a big pot of shit all mixed together and I'll be having only a small portion of it

>>76488802
Count everything that goes into it and take your best guess at the percentage that you're eating. What are you making anyway?

>>76488615
>>76488702
It's entirely possible, it's called not eating because of sudden onset of mental illness lmao. Weight loss is great but every other aspect of life sucks dick.

>>76488806
A specific style of chicken Basque, basically just rice with tomato paste, peppers, bacon and chicken, lots of paprika and some other stuff all chopped up

Ate a 4th meal because I’m planning to fast tomorrow and the ground beef would’ve gone bad anyways. This thought process is why I’m fat to begin with.

>>76488830
If you're not sure about the ingredient measurements try and find a comparable recipe online that includes the calorie amount and take your best guess. If you want to be really safe compare it to the highest calorie example you find.

>>76488802
maybe this is bad advice but it works for me: just make an effort to eat a reasonable amount and don't go for seconds. Be extra strict with your counting the rest of the week. If you eat at a 500 calorie deficit every day then if even you underestimated that one meal by 2,000 kcal (which seems unlikely) you'd lose less weight than expected but still be alright.

That's been working for me anyway, to be honest I could still totally overeat enough in one meal to wipe out the rest of a good week, but I would KNOW if I'm gorging myself that badly

>>76488721
cook them longer then

>>76488802
>CICOtards once again torturing themselves

In approximately 2 weeks I will no longer be obese and just be overweight.

I went from 135kg (297lbs) in Decemberr to 98kg (216lbs) today

>>76488879
Proud of you anon, keep it going.

>>76488908
Does that permanently fuck up your legs?

>>76488911
Yes. Those tibias won't magically straighten even if he loses the weight.

I've lost 30lbs slowly on Wegovy, am I allowed to post here?

>>76488911
makes your calves super strong. that's pretty much the only benefit to being seriously overweight. some guys have a good base of muscle from carrying all that fat around but only if they were somewhat active when they were fat.

>>76488976
Basically me. My calves look super developed compared to just about everything else on my body and it's really noticeable now that I've lost a bunch of weight.

8 kilos to go
I should reach it in 1 or 2 month

>>76488976
I've seen a few of those "X pounds of fat, visualized" images and it's honestly hard for me to believe they're accurate. It looks like a huge amount of mass, but I've lost almost 20 pounds now and literally the only change in my body is that I've had to start tightening my belt another couple notches

>>76489004
its misleading because it's all dispersed throughout your body

>>76489004
Ever notice how a roll of paper towels stays big as you use it and then suddenly it's gone?

I can't do a push up. Too fat

>>76489027
I think i theoretically could do one of it didnt hurt my wrist so much

im fucking starving but I want to go a few hours more, fuck this im going to sleep (if I even can)

>>76489039
Have a snack, i hear it makes fasting easier.

>>76489027
wall push-ups are a thing

I need to go hard on my diet for 2 weeks to end it. No way I could fast but 1200 calories a day should do the trick. What’s the best way to do that without being hungry all the time? Can I just have grilled chicken breast and romaine lettuce all day every day?

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 111.75 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck0LO6b6OQc

>>76489106
Forgot the pic.

>>76488976
Spot reduction is a myth.

>>76489124
Muscle building is not spot reduction.

>>76489128
Responded to wrong post. Sorry.

>>76489099
Fasting is way easier

>>76489099
Eat high volume lower calorie stuff and pad out your meals with stuff like salad.

>>76489071
Do those actually do anything

>>76489039
I cant sleep fuck

>>76489281
no pushups are all about developing your triceps and losing weight, if you can't do a single pushup you need to start with inclines or machines that aim at triceps and lose the fat

>>76489290
This is incredibly incorrect lmao you stupid fat shit

I am a retard I gained like 20kg in the last 2 years because i stopped going to the gym and ate like a moron, now I am back on the grind but it will take me prolly 6 months to get back to my healthy weight.

>>76489323
We should all be happy that losing weight is faster than gaining it. But yeah, you fucked up.

>>76489312
I lost 12 pounds and now im pushing 35-40 pushups in a single set, tubby
practice triceps and lose weight

>textbook bull flag on the weight chart
it's fucking over, I'm not gonna make it, go on without me

so i should do one day of fasting per week?

>>76489361
yes

>>76486461
Yeah, I know this feeling anon.

I did the same last Thursday and I've been punishing myself ever since.

>>76486578
>cardio is a meme

I have kept my diet this month and done more cardio than ever and scale has only gone up :(

>>76489360
Your fat ass is not a stock exchange, put that fork down and get to the gym, fatty.

>>76487712
The amount of salt in that is terrifying.

GF asked for Dominos as new years. Damn near nearly had a coronary there was that much salt.

Felt like shit the day after as well.

>>76489360
He gained?

What's a "maintenance day?"
I thought one is supposed to eat at a deficit every day??

>>76489428
for some people this is unsustainable mentally due to the cravings, hence maintenance for one day to give yourself some leeway

>>76489377
Same, finally went below 200lbs a few months back and gave myself some breathing room on my diet and started just spamming cardio thinking that if I kept my diet mostly the same I could make up for a bit of snacking with my daily 5-mile run but I've plateaued hard according to the scale. I've made a ton of progress on my ability to do more cardio and I've shaved like 10-minutes off my runtime so its not like I've totally been spinning my wheels these past few months but it hasn't manifested as any actual weight lost. Seems my indulgences on berries has completely wiped out any deficit I had. At least I'm not gaining weight, but if I want to lose the remaining weight I'm going to need to stop snacking and lock back into the diet. Thinking I could allow myself to carelessly snack on low-calorie stuff like frozen blueberries because I'd be making up the difference with more cardio was dumb, clearly I'm snacking as enough to not only wipe out my deficit but also whatever extra calories I'm burning with my cardio. Its just so easy to grab handful of frozen blueberries a pop a few in your mouth, and you're thinking "meh its only like 40kcal, no big deal, that run probably burned 500kcal" but clearly not when you're doing it periodically throughout the whole day.

Im a small guy 5'8. Im basically at my goal weight now and the clothes that typically fit me best in stores is size Small.

Its a weird one because if I put a lot of muscle on or even gain 10lbs I wont fit snugly in them anymore

so its a dilemma of do I stay very slim for like 1-2 years while slowly developing muscle, hoping I dont put weight on and destroy my new wardrobe of clothes

Or buy Medium that I might fill into with muscle in a year or two.

I think im gunna opt for small, look good now, then upgrade wardrobe as fit. I almost bought the medium clothes that were too baggy for me trying to be stingy. I forget I can buy new clothes often instead of every 10 years like I usually do because im a lazy POS

>T. wearing new clothes

neutral skyr 183 kcal 32 protein
vanilla skyr 176 kcal 19 protein
frozen blue berries 60 kcal
419 kcal 51 protein
ez lunch

>>76489506
where's the meat?

>>76489509
Skyr has plenty of protein.

>>76489512
so does cum. Are you going to drink that too, you fucking freak?

>>76489516
>getting mad about yogurt
you need a hobby

>>76489516
huh?

>>76489531
He's just stressed from trying to repress his homosexuality. See how he immediately started talking about cum?

>>76485212 (OP)
hi fit, I'll keep it short, I used to fast a lot, but im old and I take some medicines now (hbp nevibolol and anxiety pills desvenlafaxine). Can I fast and keep taking them? anyone here with experience taking meds and fasting? I know, ymmv, but any tips or xp are highly appreciated

I used to do lots of monk fasts, but I want to get back to it slowly, so I'll start with 16/8, and some weeks later if I keep feeling well maybe try one monk. Thanks! It's been like 10 years since a healthy waist

Progress Report this week. Finally broke the 170s range.

>>76489544
dude we're not doctors, please talk to your doctor

>>76489544
Fasting doesn't work

>>76485412
No, it's not all about the insulin response. Do you think when the word fasting was invented they even knew what insulin was? Fasting means abstaining from food. You weren't fasting. Stop it.

>>76485449
Google the Minnesota starvation experiment

>>76489567
yes it does. It probably doesn't do all the magic bullshit a lot of guys in this thread believe that it does, but restricting calories causes you to lose weight.

>>76489580
Nah

>>76489578
>Minnesota starvation experiment
>during the "control period," participants ate 3,200 calories a day to maintain their weight
>this was then restricted to 1,560 calories a day to starve them
did the definition of a "calorie" change since then? Or were guys just more active or something?
Hell I've been eating 1,500 calories a day for months and I'm losing a pound a week if I'm lucky

>>76489602
You could have literally just looked up the year that the study was done to answer your question.

>>76489603
how does knowing that it was 1944 answer the question of "did the way we define calories change since then"

>>76489623
Repeat the sentence that you typed right after the one that you just repeated here

>>76489588
Your body can not violate the laws of thermodynamics.

>>76489633
Maybe your body can't.
My body can generate free energy out of sheer spite.

>>76489623
bro what the hell are you talking about
Also apparently one guy got so hungry he chopped his fingers off in a manic fit, which seems pretty extreme on 1,500 calories a day. The worst I've done is have a scoop of ice cream

>>76489649
>one guy got so hungry he chopped his fingers off
That was during the "rehabilitation period" when they were already eating more. It's also unclear if it was intentional or an accident.

>>76489693
what cutting does to a mfer

Fatty Contest
ReodorFelgen
84.8kg

Scale went down.

>>76488700
Chosen Farms, I think.

>>76489550
>4000 calories of exercise
>.2 pounds lost
lol

>>76489004
It's all over your body, not just hanging off your gut. If you lose 10 lbs, maybe 2 comes off the gut and the rest are around your limbs, chin, etc.

whats the CICO science on drinking your own cum?
>high in protein
>low in calories
>cumming makes you expend calories (jacking off, energy needed to make the cum)
but since it comes from your body, would it be like plugging the power cord into itself? you dont lose anything since the 50 calories you gained from the nut goes back into making 50 calories of nut?

>>76489821
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself dude holy shit

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>>76489784
To be fair I haven't pooped for like 3 days. That shit probably 1 - 2 lbs.