Thread 76488334

Do you drink alcohol? If so, what type, and how often.

If not, why not, and how do you avoid the stigma in social situations?

>>76488334 (OP)
just post her butthole
you don't need to type some irrelevant, time-wasting question

>>76488334 (OP)
Yeah i think its normal to cook with and drink in social setting or with dinner, i don’t drink a lot though because it kills brain cells apparently

>>76488334 (OP)
Alcohol shrinks your brain

>>76488334 (OP)
I don't really drink, never got in the habit and deal with too many alchies in work and in family history.

I had a non-alcoholic beer at a bar to be social today, didn't need the extra calories. Looked for a light beer and it was the lightest lol.

I feel like otherwise you can just have one drink and nurse it, factor that into how you diet. Being social is more important than being 100 percent on mark with diet.

>>76488385
>Being social is more important than being 100 percent on mark with diet.

Everything I've seen online says the opposite, that I should disregard others and cut friendships to achieve my goals

>>76488334 (OP)
what do you even say to girls this pretty?

>>76488414
5/10 without makeup

how do you flirt to girls when you have nothing in common or anything funny to say?

>>76488440
This is the million dollar question.

>>76488334 (OP)
Sake about half a bottle once a week.
Brandy a pint about about once a month
Japanese Whiskey once a year at either new years or Christmas
Wine a glass with dinner if I'm going somewhere or having guests I normally don't have or particularly enjoy it.
Zoomer friends mostly drink whiteclaws-esque stuff so maybe a couple of those every few weeks.
Don't have a lot of hipster friends anymore but we used to get the tall cans of Miller high life anytime we'd bump into each other.

>>76488440
You have to be funny

>>76488423
In which heaven on earth do you live that you consider it a 5/5?

>>76488463
*5/10

>>76488440
>>76488414

Just be yourself. Just say hello to us

>>76488334 (OP)
rum. every day

>>76488334 (OP)
Any update on the butthole?

I drank the vodka.

Last night I drank carbonated sangria and mineral water spritzers with fresh fruit

A lot of dishes really have their flavor unlocked with a well-paired wine or beer. There's also zero stigma about not drinking as long as you're not a sanctimonious prick about it. Most won't even notice, let alone care.

>>76488394
That sounds like a lonely existence. I can't imagine avoiding a beer here and there after work with a friend when you could economize calories elsewhere.

>>76488604
being a daily drinker has brought me closer to my family and i landed a gf in the process

>>76488334 (OP)
goddayum that thick.

>>76488334 (OP)
>tattoo
>short skirt

>>76488670
Lol what a dud

>>76489022
you mean stud

>>76488334 (OP)
No, if I drink a single beer I'm fucked the next day. In social situations I tell them if I drink a single beer I'm fucked the next day.

>>76489041
No. I don't.

>>76489045
if a girl offers you a drink to fuck the next day, are you doing it, or are you fucked the next day?

>>76488670
Lol what a stud

>>76488670
D U D
U
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>>76489055
ya, you got it bud

>>76488670
S
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>>76489045
>I'm fucked the next day

Medical condition?

I'm a legs guy and this picture nearly killed me

>>76488334 (OP)
>Do you drink alcohol
Mixed drinks. Whenever im out picking up slags for sex so 2-3 times a week at most. 5-8 drinks. There's no social stigma unless you're entered in a drinking contest

>>76488440
>nothing in common
Wanting to have sex is pretty common with guys and girls

>>76489593
But how many slags do you have sex with in a week?

>>76489599
>>76489593

>slags

Can you not

>>76489628
Not my fault he’s British

>>76488334 (OP)
Vodka with whatever to get drunk, then beer to keep the level up, pretty much every weekend. I actively try not to drink alcohol during the week, and I notice that I feel better when I take a weekend off and just stay at home, but going out at the weekend is my only way of socializing (and potentially pulling). For me, amphetamines are the only alternative to drinking but that comes with some downsides, too. All my friends are alcoholics or worse druggies than I am, so I either need a new circle of friends or try to do everything in moderation. Aside from going out to bars on the weekends when I want to drink anyway, there really aren't many social situations where anyone would pressure me into drinking. There were a few after-work parties when I didn't feel like drinking and I just didn't attend.

>>76488466
>us
Ywnbaw and "bee urself" has been a meme for longer than some of this board has been alive

>>76489675
>potentially pulling
kek what an elaborate way to say you don’t get pussy

>>76489273
No idea, even if I drink water beforehand I sleep like shit and I wake up with a headache, which I never normally get even if I stare at a screen for 12 hours straight

>>76489727
I wfh and don't use apps. I do pull every now and then when I go out or turn them into fwb's for a while but I'm obviously playing this on hard mode.

>>76488334 (OP)
>avoid the stigma in social situations?
I've never seen that

>>76488334 (OP)
this looks like the most boring and gay thing ever. sitting by the water drinking some shitty wine. we need to go back to the good old days of making women property and taking them by force.

>>76488334 (OP)
All kinds of alcohol.
I drink weekly, mostly on weekends. Around 10-15 cans of beer on average.
If go to party or another social type of drinking then wine and hard liquor in addtion to beer.

I don't have a problem, but the amount hinders my diet.

>>76489747
damn homie your standards must be low lol

>>76488463
Bro she's fat.

>No
>I have a job, family, love training and hate being hungover. I also like saving money.
>I order a coke.

>>76489766
Eh, culturally speaking, it's normal for everyone to go to bars at the weekend, it's not just trash women. Quality is good enough if you don't plan on making one of the women your girlfriend.

>>76489599
1-2 depending on the time of season. I've lost my touch which leads to less touching. Slags are stilla dime a dozen though but there have been repeats because I don't travel far

>>76489803
Fat but not morbidly obese. That's a plus

>>76488334 (OP)
Used to drink a lot. Quit cold turkey 8+ months ago. Feel much better and since I don't go out I don't need to use alcohol as a social lubricant.

>>76489803
Lol OK retard

>>76489759
>Around 10-15 cans of beer on average.

If I did this I would be dead. How are you still alive?

>>76489675
Stop hanging around alcoholics and drug addicts

>>76489758
>back to the good old days of making women property and taking them by force

Most men never reproduced throughout history, its only when you force women to marry ugly men do you have a chance. Well, those days are never coming back lol.

You better hope for a sex toy bot

>>76488334 (OP)
For me I drink alcohol very rarely. Recently had some wine with the gf at a restaurant and also had some whisky with a friend at some sort of whisky bar.

9/10 times I am having alcohol-free beer or a coke or something when others drink. The stuff fucks with your sleep and for me also with my ADHD meds. I don't think it's worth it for the shitty buzz. Ketamine is a better high (and often a better taste fite me IRL) and has no calories.

>inb4 bladder damage
I don't use it more than a few times a year.

I think drinking alcohol-free beer is becoming more and more normal these days so there isn't really any stigma with that. Gotta say that it is a little more awkward to drink coke in french restaurants though and cucking your partner out of ordering a bottle.

>>76489910
They are functioning addicts. They work, they have their finances under control. They are good people with bad habits. I'm not much better, so I wouldn't call them a bad influence, even though I'm not quite as far gone as they are. I'm probably also contributing to the problem because I spend time with them, so I do plan to hang out with them less, but I won't cut them out of my life. I kind of hope that we can find a mutual hobby that doesn't involve drinking. Unfortunately, they're not interested in lifting.

>>76489924
mocktails existing is how i know that’s true

>>76488334 (OP)
whats great about this image is that its alongside a public golf course or some shit corny fuckin woman

>>76489924
>Ketamine

Oh god, why

>>76489943
Why don't you all get help, a functioning addict is still an addict, in 20 years time you're body will be suffering

>>76489989
My name is Anon and I’m an addict
I'm addicted to money, I love fast cars,
I love jewelry, I love pussy, but I don't love these women
I don't know what it is about me, I don't know
That's just somethin' that I just, I just can't do it
I just can't help it, know what I mean?
I refuse to be in a committed relationship
Because I just, I, I just don't like, I
don't like that shit, know what I mean?
I'm sorry... I need help

>>76489989
It's a (shitty) decision for a certain lifestyle. I don't tell people how to live their lives, and they wouldn't listen to me anyway. They have to make the decision themselves, otherwise they'll only make half-assed attempts and relapse. Some of them have been to rehab before, but most addictions require more than a dozen attempts to be successful. As for me, I'm nowhere near as bad and try to compensate for this with an otherwise healthy lifestyle. I think I'll just cut back a little, and maybe my friends will follow suit.

>>76489903
She's objectively fat mate.
Her gut is very clearly hanging out in the photo.

>>76489955
We didn't need an incels opinion, thanks!

>>76490025
You're dumb, just admit you hate women

>>76488334 (OP)
On on weekends with the lads or the wife. That's all.
>avoid the stigma in social situations
You should give zero shits about it.

>>76490041
You should cheat on your wife

>>76488463
Try actually looking at her face

Nope. Gout issues. Medical excuses are a fairly easy pass if they aren't interesting and I will offer the info before they ask. Don't say it is because you are losing weight or anything AA related.

>>76488394
>Everything I've seen online says the opposite, that I should disregard others and cut friendships to achieve my goals
welcome to the lonely road friend.
Most people will tolerate you not drinking, although there is some minor stigma. It is an easy conversation starter about "what you drinking" and an easy conversation destroyer about "why don't you drink". The worst part of it is that you will end up rejecting them because you find out people are generally are boring as shit and need the alcohol to say anything interesting.

>>76488334 (OP)
>how do you avoid the stigma in social situations
what

>>76490052
I do
sometimes I sodomize her

>>76488346

In those moments when you want to think of women's buttholes, think of Christ and lift instead. It will make you a better man, unironically

>>76488334 (OP)

Here's the thing; Im a runner and Im pretty much always training for a race. Alcohol is a tax that must be paid. And for me, with my training its not worth it. I have to make sure everything is on point from nutrition, sleep, strength training, etc. And alcohol takes away from literally everything

>>76489753
>>76490328

Ive seen it. Ive been on the receiving end and its annoying. Ive been in social situations where I was told "X&Y would feel better if you had a drink. " like how tf is that my problem. I didnt want to be there, I just want to train. People are dumb

>>76490377
most runners do so they can be assholes to their bodies. Especially extreme calories. If you aren't winning, go with the flow man.

>>76488334 (OP)
I want to slide that bottle into her cunt

>>76488334 (OP)
>Do you drink alcohol?
not a drop
generally zoomers pretty much don't drink any more

it's pretty funny to see the actual difference
i work in venture capital and often am present when the founders celebrate after closing
the "old" entrepreneurs (late 30s and older) usually have
>champagne / sparkling wine / just wine, maybe whisky / (local) liquor or beer
the younger ones
>alcohol free sparkling wine / carbonated juice if at all
>order food instead of toasting
>always have fancy espresso machine in the office (had toasting with espresso once kek)

>>76488334 (OP)
I'll have a couple of gin tonics once or twice a week when I go out, life is too short friend

>>76490432
I work in oil. I see the same. 40 year old CEO wants me to drink whisky with him at 10 AM on a Tuesday to celebrate closing a big deal. 30 year old CFO just says "good job" and sips his energy drink lol.

>>76488334 (OP)
glass of wine at lunch, glass of wine at dinner

If I have some, several days a week. A couple beers or a glass of whiskey after work just eliminates my end of day slump. I think I could genuinely be an alcoholic if I had zero self control. Drinking makes me happier.
But, that's why I rarely buy it because I know I'll drink it.

>>76488334 (OP)
>Do you drink alcohol?
No.
>how do you avoid the stigma in social situations?
You grow up, and stop caring about stupid things like social stigma.

I am trying to work out my alternative to alcohol because my liver enzyme values were apocalyptic.

Right now I have L theanine, glycine, and GABA and ashwaganda. Going to dose the aminos super high. I’m also thinking of just drinking a Red Bull and trying to learn some method acting techniques to make myself feel drunk even when sober or something.

All of that combined still won’t approach the anxiety reduction power of alcohol but I am hoping it will still give me enough of a push to be fun and be able to talk to girls. Any other ideas?

>>76490527
I don’t think it’s funny. Zoomers are missing out on the best part of life. It’s really sad to me. Alcohol has long been regarded as a gift from god. And it’s extra fucked because zoomers are the most anxious generation there has ever been and they refuse the one cure for this.

When I look back on my life, I have fucked 12 girls and I am pretty sure that if I didn’t drink I would have become an incel

>>76490616
>When I look back on my life, I have become damaged goods and I am pretty sure that if I didn’t drink I would have become a loving husband and father

>socializing with pushy drunks
>ever
Unironically ngmi

>>76490692
I have pushed away attractive girls who want to have my babies and explicitly begged me to cum inside of them. You will never have such problems because you are high inhib, so nexperienced, and unattractive. Pro tip: purity is only attractive for women. You made the classic blunder of trying to become what you want. Same as career oriented women with good jobs wondering why men don’t care.

>>76489759
>I don't have a problem
>Except for this problem
Alcoholic cope. You have a wet brain.

>>76490606
Ashwaghanda will raise liver enzymes too. Add NAC + glycine for liver enzymes.

To talk to girls more, you need to expose yourself more to girls and learn it’s not a big deal. There is no pill or book that will solve this problem. Only experience.

>>76488334 (OP)

I don't drink. I lead by example. I have convinced many people to stop drinking by just being a well adjusted, healthy and fit man who is much older than he looks.

I think being a drunken embarrassment is the stigma!

>>76490371
>Think of Christ's butthole
What is wrong with you?

>>76490757
>ashwganda and kava are hard on the liver

Fuck man that’s brutal. The liver really does not want you getting uninhibited. I do have some NAC so hopefully my liver is healing.

Also don’t downplay the difficulty of approaching women. It’s one of the principle struggles for a young man. And while exposure therapy is a key to success, on some level it never stops being a gut check. Because it’s not enough to have the balls to overcome your anxiety. To be really charismatic you need to go beyond overcoming the anxiety and reach a point where you just are not anxious and that is a Herculean effort if you were born beta.

>>76490768
>being a well adjusted, healthy and fit man who is much older than he looks.

There it is. The ultimate cope for a loser who knows he missed out on all the fun. Who deep in his heart wishes he got to howl at the moon and run wild and fuck sluts like Chad did when they were 22.

And LOL at being proud of being “well adjusted”. You know we instinctively hate Redditors because they are well adjusted. To be well adjusted to this feminized, risk averse, nutless faggot civilization is the ultimate cuckoldery.

>>76490812
Why you so mad lil bro?

>>76490812
It's only cute when you're 22. You'll see.

>>76490729
Grow up and own the fact that you're used up. Don't try and hide behind excuses and the failure of not reproducing.

>>76490812
>like Chad did
Not (You)?

>>76490825
Envy. All losers like him are tormented by it. Failure is now the main theme to his life and we should be glad he's unhappy, he deserves it. I know I am glad for it.

>>76490812
TRUTH NUKE

Zoomoids fuming

>>76490527
yea and oilmens meetups have been "wonderful" examples of men being responsible adults. Literal whores get brought to some meetings. In my area the entire city gets shutdown for two day because everyone is too drunk to function during the annual event.

Yea, and oilwomens. My friend who is a PLC programmer was not met with her peers. Trophy wives and tips to extract money.

>>76490966
cool dude

>>76490966
Oil is the one last big industry where men are still men and not corporate zombie cucks. And that’s only gonna last for like 5 more years

>>76490971
I have hope for operators, hoping for 10 for those guys. Most of the guys have their heads on straight. Who would have though 200K+/year would let them follow their dreams and not feel the need to be asshats.

As far as the corpos are concerned, they can go fuck themselves. They haven't been men for at least decade. Rich and too scared to even face their staff. You aren't man if you are scared of your trophy wife.

I had an odd experience recently. Was taking a walking tour and mentioned off-handedly that I was clean and sober for a few years, because the tour guide was annoying about the beer. The Canadians and burgers literally clapped.
What the fuck. I'm still freaked out. Locals usually call you a faggot when you mention you don't drink.

>>76488334 (OP)
I’m never usually in situations like that and if I do I don’t really care about the opinions of dyels. I just make a point to show how fit I am and how alcohol is beneath me

>>76490399

>If you aren't winning, go with the flow man.

That's the thing. I podium. I like winning medals and being one of the best in my age group. Running isnt just a hobby. For someone like me. alcohol is a complete negative with no positives

>>76491098
>I just make a point to show how fit I am and how alcohol is beneath me
>t. really cares about the opinions of others

>>76491130
No limit in the sky that I won't fly for you

I have tears in my eyes that I won't cry for you

there's no promise that I won't keep, I'll climb a mountain, there's none to steep.

When it comes to you, theres no crime, let's take both of our souls and intertwine

>>76488334 (OP)
>Do you drink alcohol?
No
>why not
Because I’m Muslim and always found it to be disgusting and getting drunk to be way overrated even before I converted
>how do you avoid the stigma in social situations?
You shouldn’t be hanging around losers who would seriously give you a hard time for not drinking

>>76491177
>No
>Because I’m Muslim
lol

Anybody figure out how to go to bars without drinking? Like I don’t even really need the alcohol but I need a location with women where socializing is encouraged. I would go so far as to say that not drinking can be alpha but if you don’t go to bars you are a loser 100%

>>76491216
no one is going to socialize with someone by themselves drinking water at a bar
go somewhere else

>>76491233
There is nowhere else. Bars are the last place left where you can make friends with strangers.

>>76491255
you really think that's how it happens?
lonely people go into bars and walk out the same

>>76491267
I have made friends and left bars with girls. I am fun to be around when drinking, I just don't know how to get on the same level without drinking

>>76488463
She's very average, man. I'm not including obese people or blacks in this. She's pretty, but she's a solid average. Average is attractive.

>>76488385
>>76488394
>>76491130
>>76491159
Tourists and bots get the fuck out of here, you obviously don't belong
>They think we don't notice

>>76491273
>t. still lonely

>>76491188
If you are atheist I have yet to meet a single atheist in my lifetime who isn’t a miserable piece of shit
If you are Christian you are not following the teachings of the Bible by attempting to mock a Muslim.
Pick one

>>76488394
lol be sure to take cold showers and never eat a tasty food or have a beer. Destroy every animal force inside of yourself until you are a joyless automaton with no personality or sense of humor. Then you can be a based stoic maxxed routine optimized gymcel.

Me I just ate a bussing panini and I am going to jack off to porn and then go out and play disc golf shirtless at the public park. At 2:00 on a weekday because I dont feel like working or any bullshit today

>>76491360
cool

I used to drink a lot, I dislike the hangover I always get, no matter the volume and quality. Also I am working out every other day now and don’t really kill my gains, did that a few times and hangover + sore muscles just leads to an entire day wasting in bed and jerking off which i‘m trying to minimize.

I used to drink alcohol to be more open and not get bored at functions. Now I rarely drink because drunk sex is awesome.

>>76491383
wow thats crazy. Drunk sex is the worst sex for me. I have this terrible problem of only being able to get laid when I drink but only wanting to fuck when I am sober. I dont get full whiskey dick but I would say my hardness only goes to like 95% when drunk but just that little 5 percent makes such a different in sex. The difference between feeling like you are wrecking a girl to feeling like your dick is being crushed

Unless you're a competitive athlete/bodybuilder you can handle some drinks. It's really not hard to determine when you're drinking enough to cause major impact to your training. Maybe it's different for the Bangladeshis or whatever the fuck variety of brown the majority of traffic on 4chan these days. You guys probably get plastered after a couple beers.

I just came up with a theory today that hard gainers are also more likely to not be able to develop any tolerance to alcohol. Because at its core gaining strength is a neurological adaptation first and foremost. The muscle tends to follow the brain. Fags with retarded brains that don't adapt cannot handle their beer and cannot make good gains.

This accounts for the phenomena where the biggest strongest most chad natties that you went to high school with were drunk every weekend and still crushing it in the gym. Lol

Just drink in moderation while sipping a lot of water. And do it while eating some good food.
Amerifats don't know how to behave, either they are "sober for life" or get shitface drunk every weekend. Mutt genetics explains it.

>>76488334 (OP)
No i've had DTs and seizures though lmao

NO ALCOHOL
NO DRUGS
MAHA
MAGA

>>76491778
BASED

>>76488334 (OP)
i'll have a sprite and not give a fuck.

>>76491778
Heckin Based! It’s a shame Trump is gay for Israel though. Fell for it again

painkillers >>>>>>>>> alcohol

>>76488334 (OP)
I was a teetotaler for many years. Just act like your most obnoxious self and nobody will know or care.

Feel free to be an asshole.

stigma dick up your hole

>>76490606
Try Phenibut. Similar effects, similar work mechanisms but instead of wrecking your sleep it makes it deeper than ever. Also it make you big horni. Don't know how/if liver enzymes are affected though.

>>76491778
>MAHA

>Make America Homosexual Again

Based beyond belief queen

>>76489879
She looks normal, healthy lol.

Everyone on this board loves extreme muscle girls

>>76489883
Based, you're gonna make it

I was a pretty nasty alcoholic after my divorce. Didn’t take a sober breath for 2 years. I quit cold and went through horrible withdrawals for about 5 days. Felt like my skin had fire ants crawling all over it and I was having micro seizures and sweating profusely from my hands and feet. Never again want to feel like that, fucking horrible, like death was coming to take me any moment.

>>76489907
If you are drinking the %5 stuff it’s really not a lot when spread out over the night. You can only go so fast before your stomach and bladder fill up

>>76489989
Ask any bum who has the most wine/liquor bottles in their recycle each week and it’s always dudes who are doctors and lawyers

I like how fluid my speech is when I'm drunk and it's fun as fuck
That being said I had my last drink last week, probably going to stay alcohol free throughout my cut.

I'm 32 right now and I've been a miserable loser for pretty much my entire life. Childhood, teenage years, college, all my 20s, now into my 30s. Never been happy, never achieved really even basic adult accomplishments. Pretty much a NEET, virgin, pretty much no friends, live with my parents, no driving, etc etc. Past few years I've been severely depressed and just thinking about suicide nonstop, but surprise too cowardly to do anything about it, just like the rest of my life.

I somehow never became an alcoholic. I rarely even drink it. I don't do any other drugs either. Despite not falling into the vices of alcoholism, which someone living a life as pathetic as mine probably should, being sober my entire life, I've still never accomplished anything. Always hear people say they start drinking because life is boring, they need to numb some feelings of boredom, etc. I don't really know what to think about it. It seems like most happy and successful people drink alcohol at least somewhat, usually in the context of social situations. I guess maybe it isn't that much of a surprise that some friendless virgin autistic pathetic loser has been sober his entire life. I dunno.

>>76493672
>accomplishments
Most people don't really accomplish anything in life. They're just coasting through to the end. If you ever decide that you want to accomplish something just break it into the smallest pieces that you can do each day.

>>76493705
Bullshit most people don't accomplish anything in life. Maybe if you're talking about really big things, okay fine. But, maybe just because I'm such a loser, I consider basic things like living a normal adult life to be accomplishments. Living on your own, having a decent job, having friendships, having relationships, hobbies, managing your health and finances, being able to function as a normal adult. Maybe you might tell me "those aren't accomplishments, those are the bare minimum expected of an adult man", okay fine, but I still view them as such.

>be me
>druk bro for last 5 years
>quit drinking two weeks ago
Day by day anons. Didn’t hit rock bottom, but want to the best version of myself. Wish I could just have one or two drinks and stop but it doesn’t work

>>76493729
I see where you're coming from. And I think it's a good thing that you view all of those things as accomplishments. They are. By viewing them as significant achievements it should make them more satisfying for you to achieve them compared to other people. I'd personally focus on getting a driver's license and a job first since those are more within your control. Relationships and friendships don't have simple sets of steps to follow and are largely out of your control since you're dealing with other people.

>>76490606
>needing drugs and supplements to talk to people

youre cooked

>>76488414
Flex a cep

>>76492267
love me some reliable johnnie

>>76493340
Thank you fren.

>>76488414
"You look stunning today."
"Can I say I'm having a great time with you here?"
"You smile is contagious"
....ain't rocket science, buddy.

>>76488414
I'll tell her you say hello

>>76488414
"Erm... splooge to meet you?"

>>76488334 (OP)
I don't, stopped drinking when I was 19 because I realised I was only doing it because my friends were, and I couldn't really afford it.

It's not a stigma in social situations for me because I live in a faggy European capital and word with middle class softies.

The only guys who've ever had a problem are the kind of dyels who fully associate themselves with podcast ice plunge 4am CEO routine stuff, and they're easy to ignore because they're short and get no maidens

Italian or Catalan red wine, Campari, Aperol Spriz, Gin Tonic is currently my favourite stuff.
I don't drink during the week but I love having a good glas when the occasion is right.
Going to Italy in a few weeks and it will be godlike again.
Having a good wine for lunch and then taking a nap in the shadow of a tree with your girl? Pure life.
>b-but that means you will have 0.5% less muscle mass if you do it regularly.
I don't give a shit.

I drank an average of around 15 drinks a night, every night, for over a decade. Things started becoming less fun after having a withdrawal seizure one night when I couldn't get any booze and just figured I'd "tough it out." Then I'd start waking up in the middle of the night at 3 or 4 am, needing a few shots to go back to sleep. Some days, I couldn't even keep food down until getting some drinks in my system.

Eventually, I got sober, but then got too comfortable and started drinking. Swore that I'd moderate my drinking, but surprise, surprise, that didn't last. Quitting that time was at least easier though since I knew the coping mechanisms needed to quit.

Now, if people ask about drinking, I just tell them it isn't for me. If they question it further, I tell them I suck at moderation.

>>76488334 (OP)
I don't drink anymore. It makes me feel like shit the next day and just makes me sleepy the night of. I tell people the reason why when I don't drink, that or "I'm a fitness nut haha ."

>>76491177
>before I converted
lmao. man this board is so funny, I can never quit coming here.

>>76496368
Islam isn’t a race you silly billy

>>76491293
Wait what? I'm here all the time, I just make time to see friends and having 150 cals twice a week to make friends isn't sacrificing the podium. And if it is to you, don't forget about the fren gainz too

>>76491216
You can order a tonic and lime for a dollar.
>>76488334 (OP)
Ive been sober for over 8 years. One of the two main reasons for the agricultural revolution 13 thousand years ago was to make alcohol. Alcohol was a building block of civilization. I think the agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for humanity.

>>76491216
Get friends and be the DD. You get free snacks and soft drinks and can even make a bit of gas money.

>>76491304
Lol @ islam

>>76490034
You're clearly an obese American if you think she's slim.

>>76488334 (OP)
Not anymore, I used to have a little problem
>how do you avoid the stigma in social situations?
I stopped going to social situations

>>76488414
You can say "hey hows it going" and there is a non-zero chance she'll be perfectly happy to engage in a pleasant conversation with you.

>>76488414
Sometimes being normal is exactly what you imagine it to be and gets you exactly what you want.
You just say what makes sense and you mean it. An simple earnest greeting, an observational joke, a compliment.
Two pro tips:
1. If things like laughing and smiling aren't coming naturally to you in a social situation, figure out why and fucking fix it. If you can sincerely smile at a girl, enjoy the opportunity to meet her, regardless of the outcome, you'll brighten her day and she won't give a fuck what words are coming out of your mouth. At that point you can talk about the weather.
2. If you have nothing to say to anyone, you definitely won't have anything to say to a fine ass girl. What would you say to your friend if you saw them in that moment? To a friendly old person? Dont act any different because shes hot

>>76488334 (OP)
Has anyone else just never had any interest or curiosity about alcohol? I cant ever remember a time where i wanted to try it. I do remember hating the smell of it when i was younger
To answer the question, i dont drink, and for the most part i think i dont think i ever avoided the stigma of not drinking, it just always seemed like theyd think im weird no matter what. Im probably just a bit of a sperg tho so its my fault. Turns out i do have some genetic liver issue so im not too worried about it now

>>76488414
>your tatooo will eventually turn into a melanoma and it will metastasize to your brain

>>76488414
>Cold weather we're having, huh?
>as in, like, the water's cold
>I mean weather water
>or
>Sorry, I meant to the water's cold
>I mean the weather is cold this time, or... day

>>76488334 (OP)
my best all time favourite booze to get wasted is pink gin, vodka, jagermeister/becherovka and white rum, in that order. Beer is for faggots but I occasionaly like 8 percent stouts

>>76488334 (OP)
used to be a drinker defending alcohol in these threads. but i stopped. there’s literally nothing good about it. short term pleasure that isnt even that good. leaves me feeling like shit. i’m just done. all the alkies in this thread just accept you’re a degenerate
https://youtu.be/aOwmt39L2IQ?si=r-hsAd6HaQaGcWY6

>>76488414
can i film you riding a bbc please thank you ugh my twp could never hope to please you

Have been drinking regularly for years now. I haven't had a drink in 2 weeks now, and immediately felt so much better. Much more engery and mental clarity. I still want to figure out if I can drink once a week or once every other week and be fine but it seems I may have to quit for good if I want to feel great.

My family was an Italian winemaking family, but my father and his siblings bickered about the property after my grandparents passed. They ultimately couldn't come to an agreement, sold everything, and divided up the revenue amongst themselves. As a result, I grew up loving wine, drinking a glass with dinner a few days every week, but nowadays the mere taste of it reminds me of what I have lost. I drink wine a few times a year and don't touch any other alcohol.

>>76500166
You have to quit for good, but once a week or every other week is ok. However, it is a lie. Alcohol is addictive and drinking once a week just prompts you to do it more often.
There's no benefit in drinking alcohol at all either way but if you can truly keep it at once a week or every other week then that's perfectly fine and manageable. I tried that several times but end up defaulting to 3 times a week and on and then shit faced half the month until I reset. It's long cycles that build up in about a year for me, for some people it's faster or slower, but that's the natural progression of drinking once a week for people who struggle with their drinking.

>>76500193
I recently managed to keep it to every Friday and Saturday but then I also felt like I had mild withdrawals for a few days, so I basically felt like shit from Sunday til Thursday or so until I could drink again. It wasn't that difficult not to drink, I just didn't feel good mentally and physically. Lethargic, shitty sleep, sweating, anxiety, depression. I have barely lifted at all this year. Those last two weeks were the first time this year that I didn't drink at all (I think I might have had a single after-work beer) and I had such an energy and motivation boost that I got back into lifting and loved it. I think if I only drink Fridays from now on maybe I taper down enough that I still feel fine. If that really doesn't work I'll try every other Friday.

>>76488334 (OP)
Last time I tried it didn't work so I stopped.
Then I tried again the day after and it was so gross I couldn't drink it.

>>76491216
find a bar that offers dancing. country line and swing dancing are getting popular nowadays. socializing is encouraged and since dancing (not drinking) is the primary focus, no one will mind if you don’t drink. go as often as you can, get reasonably good and soon you’ll be making friends with all the other regulars.

>>76488394
This is probably the worst thing you can possibly do for your long term health and happiness
People who socially isolate themselves in their 20's usually never recover and lead miserable lonely lives
Nobody actually cares that you're 10% bf
Besides, you can have the best of both worlds and do adult amateur sports to make friends while staying in shape. I get beer and pizza a couple Fridays every month with my gym friends and it's the highlight of my week.

>>76488414
Easy.

>AUTIST: "Hi, I'm anon. Whats your name?"
>Babe: (bitchy look on her face)
>AUTIST: , thats a nice name. Are you nice , (smile)?

Bam, you're in. Simple. Gives her the power to take the conversation in any playful fun direction she wants. If she tells you to fuck off, then t'was written in the stars not to be.

>>76488334 (OP)
Yes, and maybe once every couple weeks or so. But if I didn't I would never be in a social situation anyways so it wouldn't matter

>>76491216
>>76500300
Yup, you just can’t be the only sober person at place, like at least 30% of the rest also need to be obviously sober.

>>76493664
It’s prescriptions for ”ADHD”/”Anxiety”/”Insomnia”nowadays if you’re under 60, just like everyone else.
What the bum’s going to do with all those empty medicine packages beats me, but he sure as he’ll won’t find any bottles.

>>76488334 (OP)
>Do you drink alcohol?
Not a drop of that shit is ever entering my body.

>If not, why no
Alcohol is poison on every cellular, physical and psychological level. Alcohol is the bane of humankind.

>avoid the stigma in social situations
I don't have to avoid stigma because I don't feel any. Alcohol is garbage, simple as.

>>76488334 (OP)
>control F Mead, no results
WTF no one is meadpilled here? Its the oldest alcoholic drink. Its literally just honey and water. Its good for you and you can easily make it at home. I almost quit drinking forever. Beer is a soporific and gives you estrogen and bitch tits it didnt make me feel good anymore. I tried mead and its completely the opposite. I get happy, horny, energy, little to no hangover the next day. Its the only thing I drink now apart from some wine or champagne.

>>76488334 (OP)
either black out or no alcohol just cause i can

>>76488414
Just do the Jim Halpert smile, nod, and continue on your day.

>>76500998
Modern mead is mostly just white wine. The fermentation is too clean and complete, thin bodies and delicate aromas. If you want to be full historic you need to just barely ferment honey and water with wild yeast, so we're talking a boatload of sugar and maybe 2%abv.
At home you can mix a pound of honey with a gallon of water, sprinkle a packet of baking yeast on it, chuck in an apple peel, put it somewhere warmish, wait 48-72 hours and drink to get an idea.

In my recipe here the yeast is Wyeast 2206 that has already been used to make a Helles and Marzen, in that order in the same fermentor, just mixing the new wort in with the lees after racking to a secondary fermentor.
You could probably short cut it by just using fresh lager yeast, or possibly a lower-attenuation ale yeast. Fast clean high-attenuation stuff like US-05 could work too, the caramelized honey flavor is pretty robust, but temperature control may be important due to the higher starting gravity.

>>76501217
Cool man! yeah i use us-05 for my favorite recipe. I would love to get into more historically accurate stuff, I read buhners book and I would love to try everything in it. Im obsessed with gruit, and meads with long forgotten spices. I wish I could get my hands on some....

>>76501333
Erowid posters were such pretentious try hard pseudo–intellectual faggots.
Oh gee I just drank a gallon of wine, why am I fucked up?? Fucking magic!

drinking is retarded goy shit, women will fuck you if you get the perfect body, which alcohol interferes with

are you ubermench or untermench, it's very simple

>>76488334 (OP)
No, I hate the taste of any and all alcohol and every time I've drank in the past it's left me feeling like utter garbage. Not for me

I don't drink, primarily because no one in my family does, I don't feel peer pressure and I have other addictions such as porn and food.

>rarely drink
>never do drugs not even weed
>not really deliberately, just that i dont feel a need or desire to
>so basically i go through life completely sober, uninhibited by that stuff
>still a motivation-less complete loser in my 30s, someone who youd think was a drug addicted alcoholic based on how pathetic my life is
its really sad how things ended up for me.

>>76501502
You are me bro, except I'm 24

>>76488334 (OP)
>Do you drink alcohol? If so, what type, and how often.

Yes, all kinds, all the time. I'm drinking right now.

>If not, why not, and how do you avoid the stigma in social situations?

I rarely find myself in social situations.

I love alcohol in a lot of different forms. Love me some gin, whiskey, cognac, wine, rum, beer, absinthe, not into cocktails tho, also hate vodka.
Anyways, I don't really drink much nowadays. I'm a friendless loser that mostly works from home and live like a hikki, so I almost never find myself in a situation where I'd drink.

>>76488463
Turkish looking nose, are you American?

>>76488334 (OP)
Let's drink a handle

>>76488334 (OP)
>"stigma"
>"social situations"

are you some kind of retard?

>>76501217
>>76500998
Tell me why I shouldn't just mix Vodka with honey and carbonated water.

>>76494218
this, but then you need to give her the ol lickaroo

>>76488414
OOOGGGHH.... BBABBYYYYYYYY.... LET ME FUCK YOU BABBYYYY..... OOOOHHHHHHH FUCKING YOU BBABBBYYYYYY....... OOOOGHHHHH....... SO SEXY ............ YUMMY NICE MADAM ............... OOOOGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.............. I CUMMING ...............

>>76488414
How much per hour?

>>76488414
>"...and that's why 6 million is just an impossible, absurd number"

>>76488414
>see 10/10 pale alt girl with perfect body
>she has weird black belts on her thighs
>I lol and call them heroin belts
Worked for me. Turned out we had a lot in common so we instantly clicked. God I love her

>>76502222
It's about the process. Believe it or not some people like driving stick shift even though you can just floor an auto and go fast anyway.

>>76488385
Nobody cares you autist, this is a thinly veiled coomer thread

>>76488334 (OP)
>Do you drink alcohol? If so, what type, and how often.
Between one and two beers whenever I wanna hang at my bar (if I'm not working)
Four+ and some shots if I'm there for a party (birthday, karaoke, etc)
>If not, why not, and how do you avoid the stigma in social situations?
Stigma is gay. I know plenty of really cool people who don't drink and they're confident and honest enough to say why they don't.

>>76499252
>funded by billionaires: the channel