Thread 76488751

Why is it so common to see so many men in great shape but so rare to see women that even come close to being this in shape? I'm talking about IRL not online.

>>76488751 (OP)
they're wearing clothes anon

people are getting fatter than fuck men and women. Looks worse on women though.

Anyways, you'd be surprised how many skinny girls have like 6 packs. I went to Barcelona in the summer and they love to wear crop tops. Holy shit, so MANY of them had 6 packs it was kinda baffling

>>76488761
Europe is a different beast. Over there women actually take care of themselves and the food isn't poison so they don't have to autistically count calories to look good

>>76488751 (OP)
Standards really. There's a guy for every girl, but not a girl for every guy

>>76488751 (OP)
Mixing with races that have less sexual dimorphism leads to more square women with broader shoulders.

>>76488792
You're just as fat as us, Alfonso

>>76488792
Even in Europe there are plenty of women who think make-up or nice clothing compensates for being a fatass. Americanism is slowly seeping its way into europe. Last couple of years i've seen the type of fatasses you'd normally only find in america, where their faces look like jabba the hutt.

>>76489233
The only young blonde aryan girls that were a couple years old ive seen at an american airport were Europeans from europe
Looks like a pedo hitlers wet dream fantasy come true

>>76488751 (OP)
Men are raised to earn things and women are raised to deserve things
>>76488792
Dont go so fast. Theres plenty of gigaobese lardasses here, its just that doctors, your family and your friends fatshame the shit out of you, and thats a good thing, there are lots of lost cases here, but usually fat fucks know they are disgusting and they are unhealthy, most of them (specially the men) have a redemption arc sooner or later. The bodypositive movement only gained traction about the worst of the worst women, and even them and that has lost a shit ton of relevance, part because society didnt accept it (even tho the goverment went balls deep for it) and part because a bunch of lardasses who called themselves "empowered" died in just 3 years. Even the main influencers of the fat fuck movement are now hitting the gym and getting wegovy jabs, but they say "its not to intentionally lose weight but for to KEEP being healthy". Oh, also, my ass speaks fucking korean, i hate fat women so fucking much.

>>76488752
This is a retarded comment

>>76489233
In Europe proper or the UK? UK is pretty cooked I agree but most of continental europe is still skinny

>>76489899
UK, benelux, germany.

>>76488819
That's true. For every dude juggling multiple women, there are multiple dudes crying that they can't get bitches.

>>76489928
I'm talking more about Spain, France, Netherlands, Scandinavia, Italy, Greece, Turkey, and East Europe. All those places still have really attractive women. Austria also isn't bad

>>76488751 (OP)
I don't think that's how a human skeleton works

>>76488751 (OP)
I see women at the beach with this body type, but this body type is rare in general. Most women aren't blessed enough genetically to have a body like this when skinny and fit desu

Women are born with value (pussy and eggs), men are born with no value and must make their value.

>>76490395
Very true I guess that's why they don't try because these women fill me with desire and joy

>>76490081
>Greece
>Eastern Europe

Bros I don't know much about europe but aren't those the fattest countries/regions in europe?

>>76488751 (OP)
The hardest fuck marry kill I’ve ever witnessed:

From left to right: marry kill fuck

>>76488751 (OP)
girls get offered dick constantly regardless of their body size
also you live somewhere that there are a lot of fat people

the one on the left is 16... fucking pedophiles in this thread

>>76488751 (OP)
I don't know where you live, but I do not see almost anyone, men or women, in great shape. There is literally one other person besides myself at my job (there are around a 75-100 employees in my building I see regularly) who is noticeably fit/in shape, who is actually a woman. That's literally it. Going out in public, man, I don't know if I see 1 in every 100 people who is noticeably fit and most are slovenly/dumpy/skinnyfat or fat. And out of friends and family, I only know one other guy who seriously lifts and stays in shape. Men are every bit as bad as women at least around my parts.

>>76490395
>men are born with no value
redpill cope
men are valued for their looks just as much as women are

>>76488751 (OP)
Men have testosterone which creation ambition and motivation.
When women get fat they just complain about standards. Because women evolved to just sit around and complain.
Both skinny and fat women encourage each other to get fat for different reasons. Skinnies tell fatties they look good to make sure they never become a threat, and fatties tell each other to stay fat because misery loves company.

>>76488751 (OP)
Because women rarely have to put effort into anything they do since the world hands them everything already

Hypergamy = men are becoming beautiful due to competition and women are becoming lazy pigs from simping and constantly being told theyre perfect

>>76488751 (OP)
men tell other men to take care of themselves
especially if they don't perceive them in direct competition, i.e. going for the same woman or the same job

women are snakes in human form
they always compete with each other for some weird reason
ugly/old/fat women keep telling other women "you're beautiful" even if they're ugly/old/fat
so they don't try to fix it anymore

whenever i see a woman with hair dyed blonde, very slim and fit and maybe with a pushup bra, i know i'm looking at the most healthy and normal woman possible
because all those cheats are still meant to try and be beautiful
which is the most basic and natural wish in the world

>>76494026
Texas has a lot of buff guys

>>76488751 (OP)
that women shape is equivalent to the men 1% fitness wise, anon. It is not your average male, not even your average gymbro physique.

>>76490395
that's just what ugly incels say

>>76488751 (OP)
women don't need to optimize looks in order to get a partner

>>76492852
It’s the whole of Europe, USA slop seeps from Germany slowly to Austria then to Switzerland/ Liechtenstein/ Luxembourg always has been this way just takes a it’s time

Inflation.

You now need to be a 6’7” billionaire bodybuilder athlete model MMA fighter NASA scientist to get a 6/10 girl in her mid 20’s.

>>76488751 (OP)
Because women fall for the cardio/starvation meme and refuse to lift and build muscle. A few pounds of muscle just existing on your body raises your TDEE, sometimes by a lot. The problem is that building muscle takes time, a lot of time for a woman. So what happens is they’ll do a crash diet of cardio and starvation because it gets visible results in 2 weeks and maybe they stay like that for a summer or w/e but as soon as they resume eating like a normal person they explode back up to their original weight. And I get it, women want to look a certain way and in that awkward noob gains period of lifting the results aren’t exactly what they want, it takes sticking with the program for a solid 6+ months for them to see the magic happen and that’s fucking discouraging, so they do what gets instant results regardless of how unsustainable that is long term.

>>76488752
what?

>>76488751 (OP)
Because male and female fitness incentives are completely different in real life. Men have to earn attractiveness. Nobody is lining up to date them just because they exist. If they want to compete in the dating market, they know they need to build something tangible: muscles, status, money, discipline. Hitting the gym is a visible, measurable way to climb that ladder. It’s also one of the few levers a man can fully control without relying on anyone else. Women, on the other hand, are born with most of their dating-market value front-loaded: youth, fertility, and baseline beauty. They don’t need to be shredded to have male attention because most men will overlook mediocre fitness if the face and curves are there. Combine that with the fact that most women dislike the kind of strict diet and intense lifting it takes to reach male-tier leanness and muscularity, and you get a situation where the average woman never feels the pressure to get beyond “skinny-ish” or “curvy.” Add in the cultural angle: modern feminism frames extreme female fitness as “unnecessary male approval seeking” while men training hard is seen as “self-improvement.” Plus, biological differences in muscle mass, hormones, and fat distribution mean that even a dedicated woman’s “in shape” looks less dramatic than a man’s, so the bar visually seems lower.

>tl;dr
Men train because they have to earn their desirability, women don’t train that hard because they can coast on what they’re born with, and biology makes their peak less visually striking anyway.

>>76495645
jesus christ get off the internet for a whole year dude. go to your church and go on trips with them and live a life for once.

>>76495466
he's saying you can't tell they have ripped up abs like OP's anime waifus because they're fully clothed

>>76495664
Did I get something wrong?

>>76495668
Refer to >>76495645.

>>76495676
>Did I get something wrong?
Yea, you're life. Go live one and you will quickly find out the internet isn't real life. Go into the real world as an actual adult and you will see how normal life is when you stop living it vicariously.

>>76495685
Was my post vicarious?

>>76495676
>refer to my irrelevant blogpost
shut the fuck up retard

>>76495693
Don't ask me. Ask yourself if anything in your life is actually good? Your original post reeks of misery. Get off the internet

>>76495685
The dudes not wrong. Women’s fitness goals are nowhere near as comprehensive or long term as men’s are. It’s usually “I wanna drop 15 lbs temporarily to fit into a wedding dress or bathing suit”. It’s not usually about long term lifestyle/permanent physical changes.

>>76495710
>Your original post reeks of misery
Alright, anon. I believe you.

>>76495717
Did you miss the crazy part of that entire post? He turned, "they just want to look good" into a whole thesis about nothing.

depends on where you live i guess

>>76488751 (OP)
>Why is it so common to see so many men in great shape but so rare to see women that even come close to being this in shape?
because you go to the wrong places...

(most) women are much more conscious on where they go and "show off"
and the fact that this thread exists just proves that they're completely correct to be selective about it

easy example
i live in a central european city with a big university
the city has a really nice park around a central river
and in summer people go there to hang out, drink beer, swim etc.
>river park near university
>plenty of /fit/ women
>river park near city center
>plenty of men with questionable intellect

>>76495645
>Add in the cultural angle: modern feminism frames extreme female fitness as “unnecessary male approval seeking”
where do all these weird takes on modern feminism come from?
do you just read random colored hair girl takes on twitter? or do you get them /pol/?

because the feminist at my Uni mostly have campaigns for
>better parental leave, including more paternal leave
>something about support for parents during PhD idk
>some female only tech talks
that's literally it

>>76496039
Look, your uni feminists aren’t the entire picture. Local activism tends to be about specific policies, but the broader cultural current (that is, the one that filters down into Instagram influencers, HR policy, and dating app bios) comes from the mainstream feminist discourse that’s been marinating online for years. You don’t have to hang out on /pol/ to see it. Scroll through TikTok, Twitter, or pop-feminist blogs and you’ll find endless content telling women:
>“Strong is fine, but don’t look too muscular, that’s doing it for men.”
>“Train for yourself, not to please the male gaze.”
>“Men are intimidated by fit women, so don’t shrink yourself.”
That messaging doesn’t come from a handful of blue-haired Twitter randos: it’s in women’s magazines, it’s in marketing campaigns, it’s in celebrity interviews. The core idea is that catering to male preference is inherently oppressive, so even if most women at your uni are normal, they’ve still grown up in a culture that subtly tells them not to chase the kind of fitness level men do.
On the other hand, men get the opposite cultural script: “No one will love you unless you improve yourself. Go to the gym. Build muscle. Be a provider.” That’s why you see so many more guys grinding it out in the weight room while most women stop at “light cardio and squats” levels of effort, like >>76495717 said.

>>76496039
There are many podcasts that are centered around sluts and how sluts live. Then a bunch of children watched these videos and actually believed this entire world is nothing but sluts and men having to marry sluts.
They forget about their moms and about normal adults in general as if they don't exist. Thats where all this "alpha" meme shit came from which is very ironic.

>>76496061
>marinating online for years
Exhibit A of someone who only lives online and not in real life.

>>76496039
Exhibit B of someone who lives in real life and is, fortunately, clueless about internet memes.

>>76488751 (OP)
The average American women has 40% body fat, while the average man has 28% body fat. Even taking into account the natural disparities in body fat between men and women, the average woman still has 6% body fat more than the average man, which translates to around 10 extra pounds of fat. On top of this, around 12% of women are classified as morbidly obese, compared to around 6% of men.

There is no such thing as an average looking women anymore. The 20% of skinny Stacies still exists and still almost exclusively date the top 20% of Chads. However, the 5/6/7s girls that used to be at least average sized are now 250 pound obese hambeasts that are 3s at best. So now average looking guys either have to settle for becoming architects or give up on dating altogether and become incels.

>>76494039
Most men (80-90%) do not have good looks according to women, thus you have to make yourself valuable (muscles, money, status, charisma etc)

Hip dips really do nerf a lot of women unfortunately. And there is really no excerise women can do to decrease the look of hip dips. We kinda just have to work around it. Also some of us have small tits and very rarely you’ll see a small waist on a women but super voluptuous everywhere else. To have a small stomach you got to have a low bf% and low body fat means rarely fat titties and a fat ass unfortunately