Thread 76498290

Isn't this the same as the barbell row but without the lower back issues?
It's the same movement

I call it "fat fuck pull up"

>>76498290 (OP)
it's only good with your feet elevated, weight on your chest, and using rings

>>76498290 (OP)
It doesn't do anything. Maybe you could warm up with it, if you wanted to for some reason.

Now load it.

The lower back issues come from having a weak ass lower back.

>>76498308
as the goal of the progression, yes
this version is helpful for beginners
>>76498311
>It doesn't do anything
its literally the same movement as the barbell row
>>76498315
>The lower back issues come from having a weak ass lower back
they also come from overwork of the lower back due to heavy squats and deadlifts

>>76498357
>its literally the same movement
No it's not. It's upside down and unweighted. The bar path is also the opposite, as is the strength curve.

>>76498372
yes, it's the same movement upside down
the muscles worked are the same
adding weight isn't as simple as adding plates, but it still can be done just like on pullups

>>76498375
It's not the same movement retard. Rows with weight are performed with your back either horizontal or higher. An inverted row would be much lower than horizontal if you mirrored it with weights

>>76498375
Red: Inverted row bar path
Blue: Barbell row bar path
A full 90° difference. Completely different movement.

>>76498383
you can simply pull towards your stomach rather than your chest
you can do it equally
>>76498390
but the movement and muscles involved are the same
its you who are flipped over, but everything else stays the same

>>76498396
Trolling or stupid. Then a row is no different than a pullup because the same muscles are involved

>>76498401
pullup pulls towards the chest
i'm saying you can do inverted rows and pull towards your stomach like in barbell rows
this way avoids the lower back overwork from deadlifts+squats+rows

>>76498412
What you're suggesting is retarded. The only way to do a real calisthenic row would be from an advanced tuck position, which most people aren't going to be able to do.

>>76498311
>>76498372
>>76498383
>>76498390
>>76498401
>>76498427
Fuck you nigga they do work kys also ur white die, just strap a plate with a walmart belt and you'll be gucci twin

Also who u guys got? Dricus du plessis or khamzat chimaev????

Me personally I got dricus du plessis, bro has too much plot armor, yk?

I seem to kill threads most of the time, are my posts that bad guys?

>>76498290 (OP)
no loading potential
> barbell row but without the lower back issues?
the barbell row doesn't have lower back issues
>It's the same movement
it is not

>>76498551
Not OP, but I do both and theyre great. See >>76498454. Idk why ppl say that theyre unloadable. Just strap it onto ur stomach. The inverse is same with push ups. Shits annoying. Ofc I workout at home but still these movements aren't hard to load at all.

>>76498559
I’ve heard the same critiques. If they’re doing bodyweight, just gradually move the bar down until you’re pulling parallel to the floor. Beyond that use a ruck sack or put weights in a backpack and do the movement.

>>76498535
lmao AIRED

>>76498290 (OP)
I do them on rings because it's just a better angle for the shoulder and more rom.

I think the reason people don't do them is it's really hard to really get the lats to completion on these before your biceps are failing. I have to do multiple Doggcrapp sets with them in addition to my other lat work to even feel like I hit them but it's pretty low stress even with hitting failure multiple times in quick succession.

>>76498290 (OP)
Its great, ez back volume

>>76498390
can't you just do a machine or cable row like god intended

>>76498665
i'm a homegym guy

>>76498665
I'm the guy who drew the lines and I do that exact machine. It's amazing.

>>76498841
Post back

>>76498551
>the barbell row doesn't have lower back issues
if you say something like this you've probably been living with back fatigue/pain so long you forgot what zero back discomfort feels like

>>76500030
I in fact have very little back pain
partially thanks to barbell rows

>>76498301
I call you a queer.
This is an excellent exercise.

>>76500030
Barbell row engages lower back but that's not an issue. You might as well say it has forearms issues.

Why don't any of u post body?

>>76500228
It's just more taxing than inverted rows. If I want more back volume I can do them and feel fine or if im going really hard on deads.
I also find it more to bench than barbell rows for some reason. Like I feel far more ready for some heavy pressing when I super set the two movements. I think this is bcos of the added stability yk

>>76498290 (OP)
it is much more difficult to load with weight, for obvious reasons. so no, not really the same. it has it's place as a warm up or finisher exercise, but if your goal is make real size/strength gains, doing a bunch of reps of inverted rows is obviously not going to be ideal

>>76500771
You literally can just get a pants belt and loop it thru a plate. Why do you niggers shoot down weighted inverted rows and pushups so quickly?
Quick lil doodle I did on Instagram since you faggots are dense fuck.If u can't understand u are truely lost. Man I hate fit you guys are the most unsupportive sheep faggots ever dayum nigga

>>76498290 (OP)
cuz it's bodyweight meme shit that doesn't build muscle

>>76500806
Fucking retard

>>76500809
gay ass bitch

>>76500811
You're either obese or you're a auschwitz whore. You're fucking stupid for not making a simple exercises work

>>76500820
anyone can do the stupid exercise the thing is it's retarded bodyweight shit that doesn't build muscle. go to a gym and pick up a barbell and stop being a retard

>>76500827
You're just too fat to do pullups lose weight fat nigger

>>76500834
not talking about pullups, dipshit

>>76500840
Still you're too fat to do inverted rows lmao and retarded

>>76500852
dumb ass bitch

>>76498290 (OP)
this is a calisthenics staple

>>76500806
Builds muscle if ur fat retard.

>>76500771
not entirely true. if you can do 10 reps of one arm inverted rows you're incredibly strong or are extremely light with the shortest arms lol. feet elevated -> archer rows -> 1arm rows should satisfy all but the strongest. you can simply gain weight to make it harder lol but if you really can rep out 1 arm inverted rows then i guess a weight vest. 99.9% of people of avg size will never ever be able to rep out feet elevated 1 arm rows

Good movement, I don't get the hate

>>76501261
Each of those steps changes the exercise. I could just do barbell rows that are the same no matter how I load it.

>>76501660
a row is a row no matter how you do it which is defined as a horizontal pull which is exactly what occurs on all inverted row variations

>>76501261
I forgot about the other variations tuck row -> front lever -> 1 arm tuck
practically impossible to max out inverted rows

>>76501679
The bar path is different.

>>76501702
the bar path on inverted row is where you position your body relative to the bar or ring which is exactly the same as where you pull a barbell to your torso in either case the bar path is whatever the fuck you want it be

>>76501704
>the bar path is whatever the fuck you want it be
it's actually crazy how many people don't understand this

>>76501261
just use weights lmao

>>76501818
i can do inverted rows practically anywhere easily why would i use weights

>>76501820
>pick up weight
>put it down
>get stronger get bigger
>???
>profit

>>76501830
>grab hold of virtually any stable object
>pull yourself to it
if inverted rows are too big brain you will never figure out how to operate a barbell and plates

>>76499990
Is this a joke? That's how I always use the toilet, it even has a little shelf for your snacks and ipad.

>>76498724
weak excuse
>>76499990
I've tried sitting like this several times, and it honestly seems more comfortable.

No one but that Indian posted back wtf is wrong with you fit

>>76501836
even the flush handle seems to make more sense facing u. cant believe i been shitting the wrong direction my whole life

>>76500736
fuck off gaylord

>>76498357
Where did you even begin with the idea that it's literally the same as the barbell row even if a lot of same muscles are involved. Of course you have to involve your core, lower back and even legs in both of those movements a lot to execute them correctly, but get a grip.

And my favorite rows would be either variations of face pulls from all kinds of angles or chest supported machine rows. It just sucks that my gym finally got the machine but they got one that sucks and they have been informed but we have to live with it and them not likely replacing it anytime soon with a functional one. I can still stack up boxes/benches and do the seal row thing even if it's a bit awkward to set up when you could just sit/stand on a machine.

And to answer the question, the inverted row can technically be scaled infinitely by moving the leverage arm by moving your legs or by adding some kind weights on yourself, but it's still a bit awkward and with some back movements you _want_ the body english to be involved so you can get as many muscles involved as possible. Yes, even the legs if you just straight out do power rows.

Not sure if you can decrease the bodyweight easily in these rows. It's the same as with pull ups so if you add a band under you, it helps you 0% at the top of the movement which might be the hardest part but it gives you all the help at the bottom where you can start getting up just by flexing your muscles even a bit.

Compared to doing stuff like dips with a band where it actually helps you at the bottom if you struggle there (but not at the top if you struggle with triceps extending).

>>76501869
you can decrease bodyweight the easiest in imverted rows by simply inverting your body less

>>76501875
I know. Similar to push ups, you can do the rows basically standing up to decrease the lever arm and gravity, but then it's not the exact same movement pattern either.

>>76501900
you pull your arm to your torso exactly the same way

>>76501856
Isn't the rule on fit that if u don't post body ur wrong?

>>76498290 (OP)
Because /fit/ deems it too easy. Remember, to get an accurate assessment of /fit/'s average upper body strength, hese are the guys routinely breaking their sternums/ribs with bodyweight dips. The same guys claim pull ups in the rep ranges of Olympics-level wrestlers (upper 20s to mid 30s).

>>76501900
Doesn't need to be the same dude its close enough lol
Also I am tired of repeating myself nigga damn just getta walmart pant belt and strap plates to it. Ez fix. I super set them with bench theyre amazing

>>76501989
Ofc not, otherwise SS or squats wouldn't even be a thing here.

>>76501998
Nah it is ur just a faggot, also ss is great

>76501989
>76502004
L M A O

>>76498290 (OP)
Sometimes, when I'm drunk and have people over, I'll climb to the top of my power cage, put my feet over the back bar and do these. I call em monkey pulls.

>>76499990
i jerk off into the bowl like this sometimes

>>76500736
Go find somewhere else to fill your homolust folder or better yet go to some BB forum where they have profile pictures you little faggot

>>76500736
Faggots go to hell

>>76498290 (OP)
I have golfer’s elbow and do these instead of chin ups. Been two months since I got it :/

>>76502828
>>76503281
>make statement about exercise
>don't post physique
>fucking saar opposes
>posts physique
>his cow worshiping please do it for the needful wins
We created these concepts long ago

>>76499990
This is how I pee after naughty time

>>76503518
I pee in a bottle when I do

>>76499990
>using the human sized toilet
*tsss tsss*
Bad manlet! Down boy!