Thread 76508263

>Who is /fat/ for?
For dieting ducks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
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>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76504202

going to mix it up with my dinner sandwich and eat a turkey sandwich with tomato and mayo.
I'll go back to Italian tomorrow.

I wish i could have pizza. i know thats going to be the first slide down a slippery slope though. so plain food its going to be.. for the next 3 months.

>>76508380
When I started losing weight I would have a sandwich, two small cookies and a glass of milk each lunch time. I'd alternate between egg sandwich, ham/corned beef/turkey meat sandwhich, or tuna. All just on white bread.

What's a good target deficit per day for someone who's working out 4-7 days per week, mainly cardio (60-90 minutes per session)? I've heard 5-700kcal tossed around as a 'safe' number.
I've got a lot of mass to work with, FWIW, not "my-600lbs-life" type but definitely noticeable

>>76508435
as little as you can comfortably eat, i think 400-500 calories per meal is good for casual weight loss.
thats going to account for 1 sandwich and 1 side

What do you find that diet soda does for you on your cut? Help, hurt, no effect?

I’m drinking it regularly for the first time ever (freestyle machines in theme parks got me craving peach fanta) and I’m not so sure it isn’t helping. I know it’s no substitute for water but I feel that kind of fullness all the same.
>it causes cravings
Maybe, but it seems to satisfy those cravings as well. I just crave more diet soda.

>>76508465
What’s with /fat/ and sandwiches? Bread/tortillas are the first thing to go for me. Not near enough satiation for the calories.

>>76508465
I don't eat a lot (I just until recently ate like shit), so I kind of have to force myself to hit the target deficit - I've heard if you have a 1000cal+ deficit most days, you're going to get tired, sluggish and generally kind of unhealthy. If I did 4-500 calories per meal, that'd put me at ~1500 consumed in a day, against a backdrop of ~2700 out on a good day, that's kind of a brutal deficit

>>76508263 (OP)
Can anyone who cooks tell me if my meal will come out fucked up?
>one pan recipe
>avocado oil because highest smoke point I have
>drum sticks Italian sausages and those small multi colored potatoes
>Italian seasoning oregano even though I think the Italian seasoning has that in the blend garlic onion powder because I didn’t have garlic or onions
(Guy used whole chopped onions and entire cloves of garlic and only used oregano)
>squeezed an entire lemon on it
(Guy left it in I’m paranoid about the wax so I hand juiced it until it was barren)
>added some olive oil because guy in video said so but used way less than him because below
>Mfw I was supposed to use wine or chicken stock have neither so added slightly more avocado oil
I’m worried the lack of wine/stock will ruin it somehow.


>just realized I don’t have containers
Fucking lol. I may just toss it into an aluminum baking sheet and cover in foil if it fits in my fridge

>>76508478
>Mfw I was supposed to use wine or chicken stock
you could have just added a little water and let it sit in it's juices. the general point of doing this is to remove the buildup in the pan (the flavor) and re-integrate it into the dish, i dont know if more oil will do that
its not going to be bad, just a little off.

I'm a week in to yet another diet, but it's going to take so long before I'm even just 'overweight'
also about to turn 30 and I'm still a virgin bc of my obesity. I've always put off trying to get laid until 'after I lose the weight'


have any of you dealt with this?

>>76508520
Not the virgin part, but I was a fatass until 34, fucking sucked but I love dropped 86lb and closing in on the end game for weight loss. The sooner younger serious about losing the weight the sooner you will no longer be fat. Wagmi

>>76508520
damn even my posts are fat

>>76508515
I just checked it, I’m actually really excited. Smells and looks great. One other thing I worry about is the potatoes. Recipe didn’t say to do anything fo them just add them to the pan. They’re the small kind, 1.2 hours and they should be cooked right? Like all soft and shit? I’ve always fucked potatoes up even if I poke holes and pre microwave.
If this works it’s gonna become the majority of my meals. Should be about 3-5 days worth of OMAD 6 sausages 6 drumsticks and like 15 small potatoes.

ive only had 955 today and wont have anymore despite wanting to
i just have to make it to bedtime in a couple hours

kinda breaking through a plateau. dialing in the diet with rice or potatoes, air fried chicken breasts, a veggie of choice and a ripe pear for a treat when i want to snack. except for alcohol on the weekends

Hello /fat/ how the fuck do you deal with a devilish mother that continues to shame you for going into even a mild deficit
She literally will not shut up about it I cannot eat a single meal without her screaming down my throat about how I eat like a woman or whatever

>>76508544
potatoes cook quickly, the only thing in the recipe that might need more time is the onion but you skipped that.

>>76508587
tell her you do it for your health so you can live longer. don’t throw it in her face (unless you think she needs it to back off your shit) but tell her the health benefits youre looking for and say that it makes you feel good getting in shape. then call her a bitch and flip your plate over if she shames you for that

>>76508477
>you're going to get tired, sluggish
yeah, you can keep a couple granola bars with you at work if your blood sugar drops

>>76508587
>Path of Least Resistance
Minimize what you can't control, maximize what you can.
Eat only in 2-3 set meals, no snacks, just water or whatever outside of that.

>Path of Medium Resistance
Swap out ingredients for similar but lower calorie alternatives. I don't know your diet, but stuff like lean mince, less sugary breads, various things like that. Greens fill out a meal and make it look like a big meal, but in terms of calories there's not much to them.

>Path of Most Resistance.
Tell that bitch to shut the fuck up.

>>76508637
I take your point, but I also don't wanna lose weight too fast if that's unhealthy

>>76508544
30+ mins and potatoes will be fine. Its easy to worry when youre new to cooking, but its pretty hard to fuck something up so much that its inedible. Good job on learning to cook. Its one of the most important skills to have. You'll be healthier and save a ton of money

I've never been a coke drinker in my life, but can I harvest the power of carbonation to stave off hunger? Or will this only make me more of a fat fuck? My plan is to just have a coke during the meals I skip. So like 2 a day.

>>76508613
i don't look fat so this is not a viable strategy
>>76508640
yeah i don't eat snacks or anything outside set meals already
i should probably try to cut back on unhealthy ingredients but like if we go out and eat i don't really have much of a choice
ty anon

>>76508380
If you live by 7-11 you can get a single slice of pizza and a large Coke Zero for $3.50. Only 360 calories for a slice

the pizza is just barely good enough to satisfy a craving but still shitty enough that u don’t want a second slice.

>>76508694
When you go out to eat, get a healthier option and only eat half. Even if youre going to shit tier american slop places you can get a salad with grilled chicken or a piece of fish with veg on the side

>>76508544
>>76508609
>>76508650
>>76508515
Thank you guys. It was amazing. Should get a few more meals out of that, but one of the potatoes tasted fucking horrible and I chucked the remaining 10 rather than risk it. Didn’t look green I washed them all. It tasted rotten, I’ve never spit food out of my mouth out of reflex like that. Like was actually close to painful it tasted that bad and I’ve had raw chicken raw beef rotten milk rotten yogurt etc. I’ll get more potatoes tomorrow.
I feel stuffed.
Just have to figure out what to do with the oil and grease that’s left in the pan because apartment has old pipes can’t really dump it down drain no garbage disposal either. Hopefully it solidifies enough to just scrape into the trash. May have to get cat litter for this sort of thing, way more grease/oil than I expected

>>76508706
I do try my best to do this whenever we eat out

>>76508673
I would recommend being a coke sniffer instead because you won’t be hungry, it’s very expensive however. but otherwise I would switch to diet soda. or get those sparkling ice 15 calorie drinks, drinking rn and it’s so nice

still feel full from my omad 18 hours ago
this doesnt seem normal

>>76508729
Okay handled the grease. Yeah that wasn’t any problem. Prep took me all of 10 minutes. The guy posted a ton of steel pan recipes. Should be fun to start learning how to cook by following his stuff. First real meal I’ve had in months. I feel invigorated. I’m gonna get healthy

>>76508380
I just ate a 1200 calorie pizza from a local restaurant. I had to skip lunch and eat a tiny breakfast today to be able to keep my cut. It was fucking worth it to gorge on a greasy ass pizza. Going to sleep well tonight.

>>76508468
I have been drinking coke zero the last few months and have lost 20lbs in that time. It has not harmed my cut in any way and I drink like 5 or 6 a day.

>hungry
>dinner is 500kcal of white rice, some steamed veggies and fish
>feel completely full
so this is the power of vegetables...

>>76508856
Good stuff. I think I’ll just drink these whenever I feel like it. I mean it’s better than having candy. Hell it’s better than having fruit for my purposes. 1250 calories is fucking hard.

>>76508861
when you think about how satisfying something fried would taste, you become ravenous for fries and fried chicken. always be careful

chatGPT makes counting calories so easy, how come none of the retards on youtube tell me that

sometimes i wish my dad would have kicked me out by now and forced me to fend for myself, i'd be getting way more steps in if i had to get a job and with most of my income going towards non-food necessities, i'd hardly have any time nor money to eat junk. I'd be a lean chad my now.

>>76508468
as a fat fuck who needs to balance weight loss and cravings, it's a godsend

>>76508822
Okay. I already bought a 12 pack of regular, but once that runs out I will switch to diet or zero sugar zero calorie whatever its called.

>>76508876
i fell for the meme and got a air fryer, even when I fry stuff, it should be healthy

I'm hungry.

>>76508931
>t. all of us

did a speedwalk mile, it felt good. I might speedwalk from now on.

it was cool-ish out but i still ended up sweaty.

I just came up with a great loophole. A can of Brunswick golden smoked herring is 160ckal which includes the oil which most people drain, ngl I usually slurp that shit up. I can instead put that oil aside until supper and brush it onto a chicken breast or whatever before I throw it in the air fryer. It's "calorie free" cooking oil because I already logged it with the kipper snacks.

>>76508982
Very good. I recently discovered I can zip my favorite leather jacket over my gut and sit comfortably on my bike again

>>76508982
This is a great motivator for me. In high school on the last day we all wrote messages on each others shirts and I kept mine. Recently tried it on (5 years after high school and after gaining then losing 40kg) and it fits.

>tfw 1.4kg away from being overweight instead of obese.

Also does anyone know when my FUPA will disappear? i have had it for a while. I've gone from 135kg at 178cm (297 lbs 5 ft 10) to 96kg (211 lbs) but my fupa has barely changed. I've heard it's the last to go but im impatient

>>76509036
wholesome

>>76509042
men can have fupas??

>>76509042
I'm having a hard time visualizing your fupa situation but surely by 190 you will look like a normal low level fat guy. I am 5'9 and at my heaviest (215lbs) I never had anything like a fupa

>>76509053
>>76509055
Sorry I just googled it. Pubic fat, not FUPA. I didn't know there was a difference. basically there is fat beneath the skin where my pubes are. It's not massive but I do notice it.

>>76508587
Is she fat too? One of the most surprising things I saw with weight loss was the attempts at sabotage. it goes like this:

>fatty thinks they can't change or lose weight, often think that being fat isn't their fault
>someone in their life changes and starts to lose weight
>fatty has to confront the fact that someone in similar circumstances can change, and being fat is their fault
>fatty shows animosity towards the person and tries to sabotage them to make themselves feel better

The amount of fat people in my life that started doing this to me was surprising.

tirzepatide is cheap as fuck grey market now, no excuse to be fat anymore

>>76509076
It's also easier to lose weight without it than to master Ninja Gaiden 2 Black so we're all winning

I'm getting sick and tired of protein powder.

>>76509133
How are you taking it?

>>76509139
Blended with milk and strawberries

>>76509141
are you sure you're not just tired of that drink? Look for other shake or smoothie recipies. I like oatmeal coffee shakes the best

>>76509141
mix it with hummus and smear it on a sandwich.

>>76509133
What brand of powder?

>>76509198
optimum extreme chocolate

>>76509165
ill get flavorless next time and try more savory stuff. i think itll make things easier

>>76509208
>optimum extreme chocolate
Nasty. It's probably the flavor. I've noticed that I have to switch out flavor every 2-3 weeks or my body gets too used to it and starts rejecting it.

>>76509133
I like beef jerky or biltong, it's super high in protein but a little extra calories compared to whey. It also has heme iron too and it's tasty.

Fatty Contest
LivingGod
69.6kg

I'm honestly kind of impressed my body is resisting weight loss this badly. To not just not lose weight in the past couple of weeks but to gain 0.5kg despite walking 10k steps every day and doing rolling 48h fasts...
I get that I eat a lot during my one meal but damn. Now that I reached well into the healthy weight zone and I'm about to break my previous record my body is attaching itself to every single gram of weight. Oh well, doesn't matter, I just keep moving forward.

Hour 27 of my fast, I’m aware of my body saying it wants food but by and large I don’t really feel much compulsion to eat. Is that a good or bad sign?

>>76509238
as long as you dont feel too light headed you should be good

Another weekend another fast

>>76508846
I skip breakfast and eat a tiny lunch most days for this reason. Maybe it would be better to just cut out the slop entirely, but this has been way more sustainable for me.

>>76509133
I just mix mine with water, hold my nose and chug it. I think of it like taking medicine.

The fuck you mean Monster Energy has 190 kcal per can

>>76509238
Stfu you fat retard. Learn to eat less. You don't need to literally eat no food to lose weight you mongoloid. Also who tf counts the hours?? You're supposed to count the days you've been fasting for, I can go without eating for 18 hours with ease, thats a daily occurrence for me.

>>76509133
Why are you eating protein powder? Getting enough protein, from poultry, dairy, meat is so easy. How fucking fat are you??

>>76508380
Kys pig. Seriously mayo and pizza? How about a spinach salad instead?

>>76509263
>>76509266
>>76509271
same fag whos probably fat himself

>>76509260
The sugar free ones have like 5-15kcal. I like the peach one best, but they're all pretty good except the watermelon one.

>>76509266
t. someone that knows nothing about weight loss

In order to lose weight you need a calorie deficit, which may be 1000 calories a day. to avoid losing muscle while in a calorie deficit, you need a high amount of protein. To maintain that large deficit you need to have something that is as close to pure protein as possible. One serve of protein powder is around 110kcal with ~25g protein, but to get 25g of protein from milk its around 500 calories.

>>76509280
No I'm actually 190lbs and have abs. Fat incel pig. kek

>>76509353
>I'm actually 190lbs and have abs
prove it

>>76509320
I've literally ate 200g of protein from lean chicken and low fat cottage cheese that was worth around 1000cals. Stfu you're dumb as shit. Enjoy shitting your guts out and getting acne from eating that hyper processed crap.

>>76509358
To whom? A fat gay pig that fails to lose weight? kek

>>76509157
>oatmeal coffee shakes
Share recipe, sounds good.

>>76509378
im not fat, i weigh less than you, you can’t just talk shit on others if you dont even have the ability to prove youre not just some trolling fatanon

>>76509320
Chicken breast can get you that much protein for that many calories too, except it’s actually filling and it’s actually food.

Is salsa (on its own) a good use of calories?

>>76509389
You're not fat but you're on a lose fat thread? You're clearly the one who is full of shit.

>>76509397
Depends on the salsa. Should just be various vegetables and spices so I would say yes.

>>76508954
You're not supposed to feel good if you're trying to lose weight. You probably ate the calories you lost on the speedwalk.

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 110.7 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7BQbtoLnvg

Extra meat was a mistake...

>>76509397
You want to lose weight and you're eating salsa? Are you seriously taking the piss??

>>76509439
Forgot the pic.

Back on my not eating thing. 1300 calories yesterday, 866 today and it is nearly bedtime. Getting tired of this not being hungry thing. Time to go force feed myself.

>>76509439
5 months to lose 20kg?? wtf is this shit. You're obese you should be losing all that weight in 2 months.

>>76509464
You're trying too hard man, don't you have anything better to do?

I ate a litre of ice cream.

My mum told me that if I don't eat I'm going to have a heart attack. The doctor said so apparently.

>>76509464
5 months to lose 43kg.

>>76509071
>Is she fat too?
A bit but she's not super obese or anything, in fact she hardly eats
I don't think I'd put her in the sabotage category, like I said I am not visibly fat

>>76508520
As long as you're not a giga casual with a tinny itty calorie deficit, shouldn't take longer than a year, at mooost two years if you're extreeeemely fat and need to lose like 100kg. If you're really in a hurry you can always increase the deficit or do more cardio, it's possible to lose like 100kg in a year, but it's not that easy, it's ~2060 kcal deficit, but fatties want to enjoy their 4000 TDEE and eat like 3500 kcal a day instead of eating like 1000 and losing weight significantly faster, so oh well.

If you've waited for 30 years, what's another year? Also, you can either start your diet now and be thin once you're 31, or you can can keep eating whatever and still be a fat fuck when you're 31.

Also, it's not like you won't see any results until 1 year later, like, half a year you'll already be significantly thinner.

Also, this might be discouraging, but it's not like thin people are getting laid left and right, tons of thin incels too
If you're expecting your dms to be swarming with ladies once you hit your goal weight, well...
It's already hard if you're just thin, what if you're thin with a shitton of loose skin?

Losing weight for the w*men might be the worst reason to lose weight, you're just signing yourself for disappointment, then you'll just get depressed and put on the weight back.

>>76509476
Does your mother have big fat vieny tits? I really want some right now. Please post them.

>>76508263 (OP)
I'm sorry /fat/ tonight I have failed you. Its been a difficult few months. I've lost my fiancé, my job, and as of this week my car. But I chose to put down the fork and picked up the barbell. I've been able to lose 40 lbs over the last 6 months. However tonight after buying a new car, and securing a new full time job I decided to buy and eat over 1500 calories of slop.
>pic unrelated (I miss my dog)

>>76508520
You're not a virgin because you're fat. You're a virgin because you're a shallow person and no woman, unless even more shallow, wants to add that to her life. If you're after sex for sex's sake then just be honest about it and pay off a hooker.

>>76509507
I just ate like 300g of chocolate. My first real binge in roughly a year.

>>76509600
If he's not some Gigachad in every other aspect, his weightiness is likely a strong contributing factor to his virginity.
I paid a hooker for it when I was severely overweight, but later I decided it didn't count. I only managed to have sex without paying for it once I lost 30kg.

>CW: 87,9kg
Breaking into unexplored territory here guys, after a surprise 1kg overnight drop.
Starting to see first traces of upper abs already. I knew they were under there somewhere.

>>76508263 (OP)
Bring me your most delicious chicken breast recipe.

>>76509453
994 calories for 1.3kg of food. Of course I am now hungry and want to go get 20 nuggets at McD. It is so unfair I have to have will power at both sides of the hungry line.

>>76509464
>2 month
>20kg
I am literally just ate so this doesn't happen.

>>76509513
I am sure the man your mum described to the doctor has a high chance of heart attack. Do you think your mum can accurately describe you? If so, maybe stop what you are doing.

>>76509587
keep at it anon. Getting a new job was the last piece on gaining your stability back. Be better tomorrow.

>>76509665
I wasn't under the impression this was a specific prognosis for me, just a general warning that not eating will cause a heart attack.

>>76509668
well I don't know who you are. Have an article from heart.org that is designed to scare you if you are intermittent fasting... and are 49 ... and are white .. and ignore chicken shit editor notes. But scary title and the numbers are high enough to question IF.

https://newsroom.heart.org/news/8-hour-time-restricted-eating-linked-to-a-91-higher-risk-of-cardiovascular-death

There is something there, I just don't think it is something that anyone is able to prove as it is a longer term health effect and heart attacks have a million causes.

>>76509641
I grilled some, then I seasoned with black pepper, roasted garlic, and a splash of garum. It was quite delicious.

>>76508988
I do that too. It's good for sauteing veggies or onions with a bit of water or I just sop it up with a piece of bread. I like that it's got a bit of the flavor from the herring. Kipper snacks are the GOAT for dieting. Very filling/satisfying, very low calorie, cheap, zero time for preparation or cooking.

>>76509685
this paper never made it past peer review, not in any journals
some of the authors published this though https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11242983 which says
>A fasting duration of 11.49 h correlates with the lowest mortality risk.

>>76509711
nvm it's different authors but chink names all look the same

Back on the grind
Did 10k steps

>>76509720
Why were you off the grind to being with? Whats your current weight and height?

>>76509641
If you're a fat pig you don't need delicious. Delicious is only for people who have a hard time gaining weight. You need your food tasting like shit so that you never want to eat again you lard of shit.

>>76509735
Was a combination of being lazy and the very hot weather

>>76509740
Ok so whats your weight and height then fatso? Don't be ashamed just state it up front.

>>76509742
82kg and 175cm

>>76509453
Wtf are you cutting for? Starvation?? Learn to lose weight incrementally and properly you dumbass.

>>76509748
And do you have a serious goal in mind or do you just want to pretend like you're on a goal to lose weight once in a while?

>>76509755
75 kilo is.my goal
Maybe more, we'll see

>>76509749
learn to follow a thread

how to get enough protein with low calories?

I need about 150g of protein while taking around 1800cal per day

Fatty Contest
looxmaxretard2006
82.2kg


oh my goooooosh its taking so long to breach 80 kg why is it taking so long?

Alright lads, I fucked up weighing myself. Clearly I need to do this differently from now on.

Weighed myself last week, 118KG. Today, 114.7KG.
I was wearing clothes when I weighed myself last time, and this time I wasn't. And I haven't weighed myself across the week.
Are the numbers effectively useless right now or can I account for the factors to give a vague prediction of what I've gone down by in the week?

Going forwards:
Weigh every day?
At generally the same time? (I don't really keep a consistent cycle day-in-day-out so this one is a little more difficult)
Anything else?

>>76509782
Protein powder, or a lean meat. 1800kcal is actually a pretty forgiving limit.

150g of pure protein is only ~600 calories, but you're not going to find 100% pure protein, if you get that from whey powder you're looking at roughly ~700kcal, if you get it from chicken breast ~800kcal, 93/7% lean ground beef ~1000kcal, all well within your limit. Pair it with broccoli and a potato, or whatever you want to fill out the rest of your calories. You probably want some fat if you intend to stay on this diet long, carbs are non-essential.

Also why the hell do you need 150? You seriously got 210+lbs of lean mass?

>>76509665
You're right anon. I will be better tomorrow. No more slop. The new job is the nightshift, so gym has moved to early AM after work, but I think I like that. Oh and I started drawing again. It feels nice to make gains in my life again.

We're all gonna make it

>>76509685
>>76509711
Worrying. Ah well, I've been thinking of adding a small evening meal into my plan anyway. I can shuffle the calories easily.

>>76509822
>Also why the hell do you need 150? You seriously got 210+lbs of lean mass?
where the fuck did you get 210+ from?

>>76509822
im doing a minicut, i weigh 150lb/68kg and everyone told me i need protein 2 times my weight in kg

>>76509464
It took me like 4 months ot lose 8 kg, slow and steady rather than nothing at all

>chin has been losing fat at a slower rate than the rest of my body
>skinny now but still have a double chin
fuck me

>>76509834
Half of that is what's usually recommended. You'll eat yourself into kidney damage.

Fatty Contest
TheObeseBrit
204.4lbs

>>76509834
>and everyone told me i need protein 2 times my weight in kg
what everyone?!!?
huh?!

you need 1 gram of protein per pound of LEAN body mass
that's it

>>76509841
>You'll eat yourself into kidney damage
doesn't happen unless you eat 3,5g per pound of bodyweight AND have some kidney problems

>>76509843
I remember when your numbers were much bigger

mirin

>>76509870
Yeah I'm down 139lbs all together, thanks anon. Wagmi.

not to sound like a non-problem haver but what can i do to lose this pouch? i’ve had it since i was 18 no matter how thin i go and i’m 30 now.

>>76509894
Vacuums

>>76509832
.72g per lbs of lean mass, some round that up to 1g but literally every study says there is no benefit past .72g, even for Olympic athletes.

>>76509910
they literally don't say that

>>76509912
They literally all do
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1400008/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3182156/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3356636/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1400008/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2129168/

You don't need more than .72g per lb of lean mass (1.6g per kg). And that's for the most extreme lifters and athletes, if you're just a fatty trying to lose weight and gain some muscle you can go far lower, you're not a pro-athlete and you're not training hard enough to even need .72g.

>>76509901
aren’t vaccums a myth?

Fatty Contest
blindoptimism
171.5lbs

>>76509939
>first month of training and ridiculous lifting of 1,5h a day 6 days a week
lol

> In conclusion, a hypoenergy diet providing twice the RDA for protein was more effective in retaining body protein in WL than a diet with higher carbohydrate but the RDA for protein. However, the lower carbohydrate of this diet contributed to reduced muscular endurance in these athletes.
doesn't support and says more protein more gooder

third one says lean body mass was maintained by bodybuilders eating 1,12x the protein amount of sedentary persons BUT the study was conducted over a 10 day period so it's useless

>pasted the first link a second time

>no support for intakes of ~0.9g per pound over "recommended" amounts of 0.72-0.81g per pound
that said the study was on college athletes who are notorious for roiding AND the amounts of protein they gave them were per kilo of full body mass not for lean mass how I'm saying (which depending on fat amount less protein per FBM might be the same as more protein per LBM)

>you're not training hard enough to even need .72g.
nice projection

>>76509965
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1400008/
observed no differences in whole body protein synthesis or indexes of lean body mass in strength athletes consuming either 0.64g/lb or 1.10g/lb over a 2 week period. Protein oxidation did increase in the high protein group, indicating a nutrient overload.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3182156/
found that 1.6g/kg was sufficient to maintain positive nitrogen balance in cutting weightlifters over a 7 day time period.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3356636/
found that only 0.37g/lb was required to maintain positive nitrogen balance in elite bodybuilders (over 5 years of experience, possible previous use of androgens) over a 10 day period. 0.45g/lb was sufficient to maintain lean body mass in bodybuilders over a 2 week period. The authors suggested that 0.55g/lb was sufficient for bodybuilders.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1400008/
found no differences in muscle mass or strength gains in novice bodybuilders consuming either 0.61g/lb or 1.19g/lb over a 4 week period. Based on nitrogen balance data, the authors recommended 0.75g/lb.
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2129168/
found no differences in body composition, strength or resting hormonal concentrations in strength athletes consuming either 0.77g/lb or >0.91g/lb over a 3 month period.
Over 20 other studies have consistently failed to find any benefits of more than 1.6g/kg/d of protein.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22150425/

Face it, you've got nothing.

>>76509894
that's a cock sleeve, meant to fit a cock inside it

>>76509782
Eating your own shit. People on here are literally retarded.

>>76509976
>>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1400008/
again, irrelevant because first month of training and ridiculous training regimen
>>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3182156/
>a 7 day time period.
and
in the conclusion they say more protein more better
>>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3356636/
also irrelevant because it's way too short
>>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2129168/
actively roiding participants
and they say no support for more than 0.72-0.81g per pound and they say it's worth investigating intakes over 0.9 per pound
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22150425/
> that protein intakes in the range of 1.3-1.8 g · kg(-1) · day(-1) consumed as 3-4 isonitrogenous meals will maximize muscle protein synthesis.
very wide range AND they talk about maximizing muscle protein synthesis which means nothing because they don't explain what they mean by it and guess what, the body needs protein for more than muscle protein synthesis so you should eat more so that the whole body gets what it needs
and then best part since we're talking about cutting
>Elevated protein consumption, as high as 1.8-2.0 g · kg(-1) · day(-1) depending on the caloric deficit, may be advantageous in preventing lean mass losses during periods of energy restriction to promote fat loss.
which is exactly what you want when cutting which is why you should eat more protein

And I'll first believe people with years and decades of experience trainging themselves and their clients and putting bodybuilders on stage over studies that at best are inconclusive and at worst use retarded methods.
Face it, you've got nothing.

>>76509817
Retard.

Fatty Contest
FatGermanFuck
92.7kg

>>76509994
>which is exactly what you want when cutting which is why you should eat more protein
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18379214/
The researchers took a group of endurance trained subjects and had them consume either 0.41 or 0.82g/lb of protein per day. They also added a thousand calories worth of training on top of their regular exercise. So these guys were literally running on a 1000 calorie deficit while drastically increasing their training volume. Talk about a catabolic state… Of course the nitrogen balance in the low protein group plummeted. However, the protein intake of 0.82g/lb in the other group completely protected the subjects from muscle loss. Nitrogen balance, whole-body protein turnover and protein synthesis remained unchanged.

Whoops, looks like you lose, yet again.

>>76510002
You're so close to a human physique, when are you going to lock in, my man?

Back on the diet tomorrow. Back to doing my 10k steps tomorrow.
Really fell off the wagon these last few weeks 'cause of surgery. I want more opioids.

>>76510006
nice fucking motte and bailey fallacy btw

they spent 7 days in a defict
the two groups eating less protein ended up eating a touch more and the one eating more ate a touch less, on one hand might not have been significant on the other it lessened the difference between the groups
the subjects fasted 1 day before the deficit 1 day during and 1 day after
>DEF and DEF-HP experienced significant decreases in body weight (kg), body fat (%), and fat-free mass (kg), whereas BAL experienced a significant decrease in fat-free mass only.
deficit groups lost muscle mass because no one in the study weight trained they only did lots of cardio to hit 1kkcal of deficit and also you always lose some "ffm"(supporting tissue) when losing fat

importantly they measured
>This investigation examined the impact of a 1000-kcal·d−1 exercise-induced energy deficit on nitrogen balance and whole-body protein turnover in a group of healthy, fit males,
>The central aim of the study was to investigate whether the effects of negative energy balance on protein metabolism would be modulated by varying the protein content of the energy-deficient diet.
and not what the optimal amount of protein during a deficit is
worth noting the subjects weren't overweight either

and I don't care for what they measured because I care for building and maintaining muscle mass during a long deficit
and on top of all of that no one in /fat/ (at least I hope) spends hours doing cardio for their deficit and they instead lower calorie intake


>However, the protein intake of 0.82g/lb in the other group completely protected the subjects from muscle loss
literally no, just look at Table 3

and best of all
>Despite these potential limitations, our data show that a higher-protein diet was beneficial in attenuating the effects of negative energy balance, because of an increase in energy expenditure, on protein metabolism.

Whoops, looks like you lose and are retarded, yet again.

>down to 81kg from 195kg
>2 more kg to go

>>76509441
Do they use lard salsa in bongland or something? Most salsa is very low cal or are you just having a sperg moment?

>>76510076
uh oh melty

>>76510112
I accept your concession.

>>76509894
wouldst thou mayhaps be willing to let me boink you with great care and passion

>>76510094
You're an inspiration.
You were one hefty mfer.
What timeframe are we talking?

>>76510094
How is your skin doing?

>>76510116
nigga i'm not even who you were arguing with, i just noticed your meltdown. anyway, you have important things to attend to. keep camping the thread until your archnemesis comes back. have your spells and scrolls ready

not that guy but i got this
>>76510127
nearly 3 years now
>>76510133
there's a lot around my midsection, upper legs, and upper arms, might see if i can get the surgery if my europoor doctor deems it medically necessary

>>76510006
>>76510112
>>76510136
same faggot

scurrying away like a rat after getting BTFO'd

kill yourself and never come back

>>76510151
no i just enjoy making fun of you for having a meltdown in 4chan's /fat/

>76510161
shitty bait, nigger

>>76510127
>What timeframe are we talking?
about 5 years
>>76510133
completly shit itself but im already undergoing skin removal surgery but im somewhat content with my body never looking normal ever again.
lifting will somewhat help but there are certain areas that you just can fill out with muscles

>>76510161
You don't have cover for me. He beat me fair and square

>>76510176
you are fuming because a random stepped into your internet fight to call you an autist

>>76510179
nigga what the fuck

>>76510186
nowhere am I fuming
just calling out retardation

>>76510206
if you were so preternaturally right you would be able to differentiate between a random and the guy you totally owned with your ebin style intellectual smackdown. your ego is large and your life sucks so bad that you derive your sense of superiority from antagonistic behavior in a thread meant to help people get healthier and happier. seek help, lose the fat, improve the delivery, life gets better soon i promise. we are in this together mr. wizard

>>76510240
>the guy you totally owned with your ebin style intellectual smackdown.
taking apart studies and explaining why there are irrelevant to a discussion is le bad?

your writing style is just like his because you are him and are now trying to run defense for your retardation by impersonating a third party and typing out some passive aggresive attacks

You are all retarded fat shits with no idea about nutrition of general health. Shut the fuck up until you can walk down the street without dying, stupid fat shits.

>>76509894
r u femboy or girl??

>>76510253
my writing style is more like yours than his. subpoena 4chan or some shit nigga you're just wrong. anyway, regardless of your need to believe everyone is the same person, i'm criticizing your antagonistic meltdown delivery because it is unproductive and betrays a shitty internal life. good to promote proper interpretation of data but bad to do it in a way that is completely unappealing and makes people who care about the details look like insufferable nerds. contribute to our community fatass, it might actually HELP your mental health. if you would like to do the whole logical fallacy dance, you may notice that it is irrelevant if you think i'm samefagging. approach what i say on its merits

>>76510254
good bait bwo i got angwy :3 can u say it again :3

>>76510260
look at those creamy tiddies nigga does it matter

Are we having another melty in here?
Realize that you're likely just hangry. Channel that anger into exercise to lose the weight faster.
And hydrate.

What are these autists even arguing about?

>>76509894
A lot of people find that somewhat hot (me included) but it may look worse standing up.
The only idea I have is intestinal issues, my sister had an issue like that, turned out she had celiac disease and was constantly bloated from it.
If you have issues that are similar to a food allergy or something like that, maybe worth checking out.
If it's nothing medical I'd just not worry about it (easier said then done I know).

Get a load of these dorks

>>76510278
One says you should eat less, the other says you should eat even less.

>>76510272
>my writing style is more like yours than his.
simply untrue sweaty
>nigga you're just wrong.
nigga I'm just right
>need to believe everyone is the same person
not everyone, just you
> i'm criticizing your antagonistic meltdown delivery
it wasn't antagonistic and it wasn't a meltdown
rather a calm explanation of why you are wrong
>because it is unproductive and betrays a shitty internal life
it productively explained why you are wrong
and save the insults disguised as armchair psychology
>contribute to our community fatass,
I just did by explaining how you are wrong
>it might actually HELP your mental health.
mine is fine, you see I'm not the one having a melty over getting BTFO'd
> approach what i say on its merits
and the merit is that you are wrong

>>76508478
>Can anyone who cooks tell me if my meal will come out fucked up?
>one pan recipe
>avocado oil because highest smoke point I have
Good idea but expensive.
>drum sticks Italian sausages and those small multi colored potatoes
That's a lot of calories, especially the sausages.
>Italian seasoning oregano even though I think the Italian seasoning has that in the blend garlic onion powder because I didn’t have garlic or onions
Skipping aromatics will make it less flavorful. At least cutting up an onion or garlic would go a long way. Alternatively garlic powder.
For Italian seasoning use oregano. Optionally add thyme and rosemary.
>squeezed an entire lemon on it
Adds acidity, good idea.
>(Guy left it in I’m paranoid about the wax so I hand juiced it until it was barren)
Won't matter
>added some olive oil because guy in video said so but used way less than him because below
Good. Will be fine like that.
>Mfw I was supposed to use wine or chicken stock have neither so added slightly more avocado oil
Fuck up, you want the moisture of it, so if you legitimately have neither use water in the future. Also buy chicken stock powder, that way you have sub-par chicken stock that's shelf stable for cheap. Just add a tsp to the water and add that in the future.
>I’m worried the lack of wine/stock will ruin it somehow.
You're lacking moisture, so the potatoes will cook differently. They'll still come out fine, but you will have to take care so the meat doesn't get burned and maybe adjust cooking times.
>just realized I don’t have containers
>Fucking lol. I may just toss it into an aluminum baking sheet and cover in foil if it fits in my fridge
Containers don't matter.

>>76510294
>my writing style is more like yours than his.
'His' writing style was just copy and pasting shit directly from https://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/

>>76510294
this might have been an epic own if you were talking to the same person who was arguing with you
>save the insults
nigga my whole point has been that your attitude is laughable because you're so abrasive and now you're being precious about perceived slights. knowledge is a gift to be shared with others. and you're still fixating on proving a guy wrong because your mind can't comprehend that this is not about whether the class saw you being right or wrong. it's about whether they saw you having a meltdown. brainlet context switching. anyway have fun m'lord i will no longer be responding

>>76510321
well no wonder it was so retarded then
I'm pretty sure I argued and BTFO'd this retard in qtddtot too

I want ice cream sandwiches and potato chips so bad. I will persevere and not eat them!

>scale bumps up a pound after 11 days of loss
Not bad but I hate these little bumps every so often on the way down. Why do these happen?

>on carnivore for 3 months
>keep trying to reintroduce more food into my diet
>disappointed every time
I've grown up eating rice with every homecooked meal, today I tried some with ground beef and it tasted like shit. Just empty calories. I don't feel more sated for having eaten rice and it had basically no flavor, what's the point?

>>76510521
Because your body is a complex system and you're judging short term changes in its composition based off the results of a chinese electronic device that measures gravity's effect on its mass

>>76509379
1/2 cup quick oats (whatever uncooked oatmeal you like)
1 banana
1 tbsp penut butter (remove to lower calories)
black coffee and ice cubes to taste.

I also add my protein powder and creatine to this. I have a hard time eating in the morning but I have no problem with this

>>76510604
>what's the point?
carbs are necessary for strenuous physical exercise

>>76510639
I've gained more muscle in 3 months on this diet eating almost 0 carbs each day than I have at any other point in my life. All of my "stats" have only improved since I cut out carbs. I'm up to 10 pull ups / 40 push ups in one set.
you don't need carbs whatsoever for exercise, that shit is a myth.

>>76510652
>you don't need carbs whatsoever for exercise, that shit is a myth.
you are not training hard enough to know that you do

>>76510673
Correct, I had this same thinking before I crashed out hard and introduced carbs again

>>76510673
>you are not training hard enough to know that you do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJdKYGYwLk4

Well I'm dumb.
I decided to be healthier and stop eating tons of processed, corn syrup, artificial snacks and food. But then ended up eating tons of fresh fruits and vegetables, real fine cheeses and home cooked meats. Still fat.

>>76510604
>what's the point?
cheap calories for poor people.

>>76510639
fruit, honey and milk are more nutritious sources of carbohydrates than grains

>>76510673
>carbs are only good for extreme athletes
I don't think you understand the argument you're trying to make

you need carbs for your brain

No, you don't.

>>76510693
Cool, now just eat less of it and move more.

gonna hit the beach today. won’t be as ashamed to pop the shirt off now

>>76510808
posy body

>>76509247
I hear you there. I can tolerate being hungry during the day but if I go to bed hungry I will wake up and midnight and raid the fridge. Holding off eating until the evening allows me to sleep all night and avoid this problem. Cutting out the slop completely as you say usually leaves me very hungry where as I can eat a pizza and actually feel great for 12 hours. Its not that bad.

Fatty Contest
Healthy2026
360.9

>>76510694
>fruit, honey and milk are more nutritious sources of carbohydrates than grains
absolutely
>>76510721
that is not the argument I'm making but thanks for purposefully strawmanning it I guess
>>76510772
the liver makes glycogen from protein so you don't

god I love chickenslop stew so much

>>76509587
I remember that picture of a guy who asked if he could eat fruit loops for his birthday and /fit/ chastising him about how he's never going to get any progress like that. But I took it easy, faltered a few times and lost 36lbs in the same 6 months. I absolutely got progress that people (old men at BJJ and my parents) comment on. So it's like who really gives a fuck?

I'm getting in shape.

Didn't read the spergout, who won and how much protein should I eat?

>steak and eggs for breakfast
>steak sandwich for lunch
>steak and potatoes for dinner

did a 2 day water fast about 2 weeks ago and it helped control cravings, had absolute control over what i ate and how i felt
running it back with another one this weekend

>>76510900
Neither won imo
One guy is a massive loser and the other one bailed
Personally I think the muscle loss myth is a meme
Sure if you lose fat it appears you lose muscle on those scans
But it’s because the scans are not accurate to begin with
Your body is efficient at fat storage that’s million years of evolution it’s counterproductive to metabolize muscle when fat is available therefore I think you can eat anything you want or nothing at all and you will not lose real muscle

>>76510694
>fruit, honey and milk are more nutritious sources of carbohydrates than grains
just got here and now I am gone.

>>76510900
neither did I. Here is my rundown. In grams/lb and somebody can prove and disprove all of this with studies because all the studies are targeted and biased.
0.6 - you can do this if you are not active.
0.8 - minimum if you are working out. I think this is "correct" for a lot of people. These people don't have massive shitty muscles from moving around a ton of fat and aren't working their asses off in the gym... right anon...you are working harder than most normies... right?
1.0 - probably the minimum where you want to be. If you are at 0.8 and have a bad day or bad calculation things get bad then you are short on protein. 1.0g/lb is a reasonable safety number. Maybe too much, but too much just gets burned as calories (not enough to really care about for your TDEE)
1.2 - bodybuilder recommend. Same thing as 1.0, but more muscle more need. If you are roiding out then yes, you need this number

There is also a practicality thing where it should be lean body mass for the grams/lb. I currently weight 240 and try to be at 1900 calories a day. It is working. There is no meal plan that I am unable to 240g on 1900 calories and be a healthy one. I aim for 180 - 190 as I figure that is my 1g/lb for lean body mass and also obtainable using less than 2 shakes a day.

tl;dr 1g/lb of lean body mass because there is almost zero reason to optimize low

>>76510900
.72~.86g per lbs of lbm, as usual nothing changed, round up to 1g if you're lazy and don't want to math, not going to hurt you to go a little over.

>>76509513
thats not how that works..
>>76510521
i force myself to only look at the scale every 4th day otherwise i go mad with all the fluctuations. I'm sure i just have an imprecise scale.
>>76510900
3/4th of your calories on a diet should come from a protein source

Almost bought an Angry Whopper, with friens & a mozarella salad. Whoosh!

I fucking LOVE meat
if you don't like meat you're probably a freak

Fatty Contest
KartveliGoliati
135.9kg

>>76511086
I hate beef
Love chicken pork and fish though

>>76511090
>I hate beef
nonwhite detected

>>76511093
Oh I know you’re brown don’t worry
I assume that when I go to 4chan by default

>working in weight looking fat and sweaty as fuck
>cute girl comes and asks if I'm using a bench, I'm not
>move to do deadlift
>between sets I make eye contact with her twice
>weird, go upstairs to treadmill
>she comes up minutes later and us in the one in front of me!
Women are a psyop

>Saturday
>32
>Another weekend alone with no friends, gf or social life
Atleast i'm a bit less fat than i was last week.......

Fatty Contest
FattyFatFemcel
217lbs
5’3”

>>76511130
lol what a loser
Maybe get hobbies or something

>>76511137
Atleast i'm not you

For the fat contest do you guys track progress within the same leg or do you only post one entry per leg/week

>>76511149
Once per week because i'm not an autistic loser

Had a burger with fries today. Shit was cash

>lost 15kg so far
>still need to lose another ~15kg
Losing weight is such a pain in the ass.
I wish I wasn't such a fucking retard and didn't gain it in the first place.

>>76511181
You’re fighting against your genes that’s why it’s so hard

A girl i know wants to sex me, i was very fat but i've lost 40kg and i'm basically normal sized now. She is fat, when i was fat i'd of sexed her in a second but of course she wasn't interested in me then. Now i find her sort of gross. Do i sex her or not?

>>76511245
There is no shame in a pump and dump, and it will make you feel good to treat fat women like worthless holes they are

>>76511245
what the hell is an i'd of
>>76511249
>There is no shame in a pump and dump
there is in fact a lot of shame

>>76511253
I would have* ESL

>>76511245
sex her, then bully her with plapjack meme
now she will lose weight, you will do good for this world

>caved and ate 1 bowl of frosted mini wheats
>somehow gained 2 pounds from this

>>76511245
>gross
why would you then?

>>76511275
I have not had sex in 10 years

>>76511258
>ESL
I know you are
>>76511264
carbs + water weight + calories + fiber
why would you even ever buy cereal

>>76511264
Glycogenesis goes brrrr

>>76511174
same, I managed to fit it in my calorie budget by skipping breakfast and just having a protein bar for lunch. I think it's easier for me to sustain my diet when I occasionally indulge in some trash food. Gotta eat better tomorrow though.

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
finally a downwards trend

i missed that it was lunch hour, that must mean something positive. i ate my hot dog anyway and now i wait for dinner.
its kind of cloudy so i might go outside again, i went for a long walk this morning already

>>76511264
got that body composition looking juicy.... water straight in the muscle.... major win..... stay frosty my friends.......

On one more 48hours fast.

Fasting doesn't work

>>76511245
how fat are we talking

Anyone else keep having nightmares about gorging on goyslop?

>>76511593
sometimes but mine are always comfy dreams rather than nightmares, I wonder what that's supposed to mean

Another depressing measurement day. I wish my body would stop shrinking things I want to be bigger. 3 month change in inches
The annoying:
-1.5 neck
-1.5 chest
-1 bicep
-0.75 forearm
-6.5 hips
-1.5 thigh (right)
-0.75 calf

The good:
-0.75 abdomen
? - waist - my app changed between waist and abdomen and my numbers are fucked. I would guess -1.25, but the app says -10.
-23.2 lbs weight
-1.7% bf (I don't care if you think scales suck)
-4.3% visceral fat

>>76511130
I check most of those boxes. I am getting more fine with it. After doing some meetups I am finding most people suck and I would rather be alone.

>>76511181
losing life is easier, both in death and in the lack of enjoyment of life. Keep in pain anon.

>>76511245
if you can pump and then dump then sure. You won't though as you are here and got fat because you were lacking controls. Make sure you are solid and then fuck all the fatties.

>>76510260
a girl
>>76510285
oh that’s a good point, maybe i should get screened for that??

>>76509894
fix your anterior pelvic tilt
strengthen your core and take metformin

>>76511672
I asked ChatGPT about this and he said it was bullshit. Could you be more specific?

>>76511679
that's very extreme, milder cases can often look like your picrel
it comes from a weak core causing the stomach to sag out

>>76511581
>Fasting doesn't work
Doesn't work for what? It's not a magic diet that breaks physics certainly, but it's effective for some people in some situations.

>>76509894
Seems like a lifestyle problem, you need to get more sex (with me)

>>76511130
I always imaged as a kid my 30s would just be me spending every weekend with my bros, hanging out and having a blast. I have no friends.

>>76511593
yep lol. Its always so relieving when you wake up and realize it wasnt real

Fatty Contest
FiggerNaggot
213.5lbs
6'5"

I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY I WILL BE SKINNY

>>76511887
for me it was-
>family
>children
>career

;_;

>>76511985
What went so wrong for us bro?

>>76511990
I blame my parents for everything
they set me up for failure and I have to deal with the fallout in my adult years

i am planning to fast monday to sunday, can i drink coffe or tea? those have some calories, though in miserable quantities, i am kinda hooked on caffeine

>>76512005
Sure why not, you're a retard for fasting anyway.

>>76512005
Sure, just make sure to get your electrolytes.

>>76512005
Those dont have any calories unless you put in sugar, but you can still have a low amount of calories even on a fast
Dont let purist zealots tell you otherwise, fasting benefits are on a spectrum, they're not a binary on/off switch where when you consume a minimal amount of calories it will ruin your entire progress

>>76512022
Black coffee has 2kcals. Shill harder.

I'm close to finishing my weight loss journey in a few months which is encouraging. But what's discouraging me the most is that I'm probably not going to be able to attain a slender body like picrel because my old fatty self destroyed the possibility of that with the extra skin and puffy face. Yeah building muscle is necessary, but slender/twink is what I want over being a hunk yknow.

>>76512050
You want to looks like a homosexual?

>>76512050
Shouldnt have been fat

>>76512055
yeah. why else are we on 4chan?

>>76511679
>Could you be more specific?
yeah go suck chatgpts cock you flaming retarded faggot

Going from being a fat blob to being mostly normal looking except for a giant gut tumour latched onto you feels like a downgrade tbdesu.

>>76512090
Get really lean (12%bf) then get surgery

>>76512008
i just want to try my will
>>76512015
i usually drink lots of mineral water anyway
>>76512022
i dont really believe that fast can be somehow spoiled by a single piece of food, but i think following this fast meme would't hurt

Forgive me father for I have sinned, today I was weak. I ate the slop.

>>76512124
u eatin good today

>>76508263 (OP)
Theoretically, if your intake would be by at least 1000cal lower than TDEE, not counting lifting and cardio, how drastic would the changes to your metabolism be in the short- and longterm

>>76512050
You'll never be a hunk, but you can make your body match your face and somewhat diminish the effects of loose skin. Just hit the gym already

I am a food schizo now, i am afraid to eat because scale might go up

>>76512148
Anytime you eat scale will go up, because you're taking mass into your body.

>>76512148
Might as well stop drinking water too

>>76512157
BUT SCALE CANT GO UP IT MUST GO DOWN AHHHHHHHHHHH

>>76512167
Weigh your piss and shit, and only eat less mass than you excret.

>>76512066
to be secretly homosexual. You can't just come out and pretend you want to suck delicious dick.

>>76512148
if you don't eat your muscle will go down and you will end up look like a starving African kid with a giant stomach.

It is about balance. Almost every person in this thread would take 280 lbs with a 15% body fat.

>>76512050
why would u want to look like that though?
being hunky is better

>>76512173
He would need to weigh his breath too.

>>76512199
like you haven't tried to do that digital scale trick of exhaling that the correct moment to squeak a extra 0.1 lbs of loss.

0 Kcal today.

>>76512223
Every post you make is = to 10kcals consumed

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justaguy
105.4kg

>>76512199
Just think of that as free deficit.

too fat, shy and sweaty to hit gym, my dad also works there. how do you cope with being disgusting at gym?

>>76512278
If there is any place to be fat and sweaty at, its the gym.
And what does it matter if you're shy? bring headphones and tune everything else out.

>>76512278
go for a walk in the morning when theres not alot of people outside and its not hot out yet. loop around the 'hood for 20 minutes. do you need the gym?

>>76512291
i do, my arms are really small. i already walk a lot

>>76512135
not very
>>76506287

>>76512322
just buy 10 pound hand weights, do curls and lateral arm raises every other day, once you can do around 200 you'll have big arms

>>76512050
pic related looks way hotter than 90% of /cbt/

>>76512358
said no woman ever

>9th day of being 203lbs
guess i'll never be under 200

Mounjaro Anon here.
Started a week ago. So, first week results.

Was: 120KG/265lb~
Now: 115KG/253lb~

Obviously it's only been a week and there's a bunch of factors that could play into, I doubt it's entirely weight loss, there's almost certainly a factor of water weight and daily variances. So, I'd estimate the true loss closer to 3kg, or about 5-6lbs. It could be higher and the scales could be 100% accurate, but let's be conservative to avoid future disappointment.

So, I'd say realistically I've lost about 0.8lb per day, which checks out in terms of a rough estimate of calories consumed versus TDDE.

Biggest change has definitely been diet. Mounjaro means I have zero interest in food. Eating has become a choice. I simply choose not to for a couple of the days. And it wasn't difficult.
If anything it's the other way around, I simply don't feel able to eat the 3000 kcal or whatever I did previously. Most days I've had around 1200kcal, and the meals have been lean meat and rice or some couscous or whatever. I still enjoy food. I simply don't need to eat all that much of it.
I don't imagine food from the perspective of taste any more. I look at images of food, and I don't feel hungry. I don't imagine how they taste, and then desire the taste. I mostly imagine the texture for some reason?

Been to the gym twice this week. So, there's some extra calorie expenditure there.

No side effects really. First could days, my stomach felt a little off. But, once that was over, it's been absolutely fine since.
You need to drink a lot of water on this stuff. So, fruit juices might be a good idea to get some extra nutrition.

But, I'm pretty impressed with the drug. It works, it feels pretty good to be on and I'm losing weight without issue.

I'm not currently counting calories. I might, but I feel for as long as I'm getting results, I probably won't. We'll see how I'm doing next week.

>>76512384
I was hovering around the 250 mark, and i really wanted to push through, so i dropped my deficit to 800 cal for 3 days and then checked the scale again, it had me at 248
you can do the same for just 4 days

>>76512366
said every woman ever anon.

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>>76512405
>>76512405
NEXT

>>76512395
What women do u know??

>>76512384
i did a maintenance week and pissed about 4 kilos when i dropped back into a deficit and hit a new low. you're probably losing weight and holding water. it's time for yall niggas to take the maintenance week pill

>>76510874
Exactly. You don't have to be 10000% strict all the time. You just cant fall off the wagon every single week. I had that experience recently. I met with my ex to give her some of her belongings and she looked at me wide eyed and said "where's the rest of you?"

That felt pretty good.

>>76512783
While this is the actual truth, it's probably better when these threads serve as the overly strict voice in a person's life. When you're dieting, almost everyone else in your life is going to be the devil on your shoulder trying to tempt you and saying it's okay to cheat a little. In that context, I was glad that I could always depend on some random asshole here to balance that out by telling me no, even if I couldn't always live up to Anon's perfectionist standards.

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Ponponpon
261lbs

>>76512387
GL. Monjuaro gave me pancreatitis 2 years ago. I am going to try microdosing Ozempic soon.