Thread 76510836

I can’t believe I was a natty lifter and ate up all the noble natty bullshit FOR YEARS

>one in a trillion bruh
>i have polymorphism bruh
>one cycle of trt and then i maingained bruh

I feel like a FUCKING RETARD believing it was possible to build muscle as a natt. A fucking joke for these scammers to laugh at

https://youtu.be/ZpA0alsJVXs

DONT FORGET YOUR TURK BUILDER MAXX BRAH
100% PURE TURKESTERONE FROM TURKMENISTAN XDD

>>76510836 (OP)
>>76510836 (OP)
no idea whats going on
why would u watch someone named Hussain ?

unless you're an ethnic

>>76510836 (OP)
Just realize it takes like 5 years+ to get to where he is with a dialed in diet and actual hard gym 5 days a week. Then it's possible if you also have good genetics for it.

>>76510924
And also you had to have started during puberty

>>76510924
not with arab genes you wont

>>76510836 (OP)
I genuinely don't understand what the fuck is going on. Was this some master 4D chess move to clown on Jeff Nippard?

>>76510971
I really hope it is. Drama in the fitness influencer space is so ridiculous and Jeff is so retarded for believing this shit it's hilarious

can someone give me a qrd on this situation
i don't want to give views

>>76510971
Jeff? No he is a retard
It was Greg Ducette using Jeff’s reach to advertize his shit for free

>>76510836 (OP)
You can build a decent physique natty, but nothing near what is sold as natty online. You’re just not going to have a ton of size when you’re 10% body fat without drugs.

>>76510924
Nobody is getting to where he is natty. Genetics my ass. People need to have reasonable expectations.

>>76510983
Some retarded retard that was obviously roiding was claiming natty. Greg midgette was protecting him and now has bent over and admitted he isn't natty

>>76511004
how does geoff nipples fit into this

>>76510836 (OP)
If you are a fitness influencer, you’re on steroids. Period. Don’t care if it’s Nippard, Cavaliere, whatever fake natty faggot. It’s an exceptionally competitive space and you’re competing with people from all around the world. There’s loads of people who are top 1% genetics AND on steroids in that space who don’t make it. You’re not going to be able to make without juicing. It’s just the nature of the game. And lying about being natty is just smart marketing. It’s either tell that lie for these people or get a real job, what would you do? Ditto for action heroes. Everybody is on roids.

>>76511008
Idk he's probably too small to fit in OPs picture

>>76511013
The only people that view or obsess over natty statuses are new lifters.

>>76511020
Uh-huh. Nobody cares about roids. Tell that to the liver king

>>76511020
It's not about the natty status itself, it's lying about it. Roiders on social media promising the moon if you just follow them and buy their meme routines/supps are cancer. It's the same with competitive lifters and athletes too. Pro bodybuilders and some powershitters are as open about their roiding as they can be, but olympic lifters and every single pro athlete of every sport ever has to lie about it. Normalfags actually believe the lies, and the entire perception of fitness is shifted because of it.

>>76510924
Not really. At least with the average levels of testosterone.
10 years more likely.

>>76511036
I mean if you have an iq over 65 you would immediately notice the inconsistency

>Just follow my program and buy my pills to look like me
>I have a one in a billion genetics and have lifted since age 12
Hold up, so if I am in the 999,999,999 then the pills wont do shit?

>>76510924
50lbs of muscle is stupidly high for a natty bodybuilder. Greg himself gained around 60lbs by doing steroids over 25 years, and has amazing genetics.
Good genetics isn't enough. You need one in a million genetics. But Hussein did it in 18 months, so that fag unironically has one in a trillion genetics.

>>76511091
Just one in a quadrillion genetics, my nigga (natty n*gga)

>>76510836 (OP)
the only one I feel bad for is that cute spencer kid from jeff’s vid, Jeff was putting him down so hard for not being as big as julian despite being the same age
fuck jeff honestly

>>76510836 (OP)
Lol, is this the new cope fake natties are going to use? Muh polymorphism?

>>76511113
> I guarantee Ronnie Coleman has some type of polymorphism

Yep. I'm aware that on some level, steroids cause epigenetic changes, but these are upper tier bullshitters.

> Maybe muh turkbuilder supplement benefits people with special polymorphism
LMAO, AND THERE IT IS

OH MY SCIENCE

>>76510836 (OP)
I don't mind a little youtube drama from time to time but this shit is too complicated to follow.
Do they really need to make it so complicated to get viewers?
I'll admire the effort though, all these people working together just for a bunch of views on different channels. And they say conspiracies are impossible because they're too complicated or something.

>>76510836 (OP)
Did you not even finish the video you're making a post about? They literally backtrack and say they were doing a bit, that Hussein is natty and it was a double lie. Obviously bullshit, we all know he's not natty, but the polymorphism thing was a made up publicity stunt.

>>76510836 (OP)
Many such cases.

>>76511027
Liverking started his shit around the peak of the carnivore diet trend. Again, convincing nufaggots that the key to gains is organs and supplements.
>>76511036
Here we go again..
>muh unrealistic expectations
Typical nulifter noble natty faggotry. Do you even interact with the people at your gym? Gear is everywhere.

No, Greg. I'm going to take you at your word that Hussain juiced and is in fact not natty.

>>76511308
>Again, convincing nufaggots that the key to gains is organs and supplements.
What the influencers aren't telling you is it's really influencing expression of the MRF protein family.

Why doesn't Greg shave it off?

>>76511784
People would confuse him for Dr. Mike and yell trichology skill issues even louder.

>>76510836 (OP)
so they're all lying about juicing and claiming to be fake natty just so they can shill their products to unsuspecting zoomies and gen alphas
why is this allowed again?

>>76511799
>so they're all lying about juicing and claiming to be fake natty
err i hope you know what i meant by that, if not just take out fake

>>76511799
It's not allowed to have steroids actually

The online bodybuilding community is completely fucked. There is no win win situation here.

>be natty and claim natty
>you can either look average or get big enough until no one believes you are natty

>be on steroids and claim natty
>you can either look average or get big enough until no one believes you are natty

>be on steroids and admit to it
>people expect you to look like a mass monster freak that will die at 40 or they are dissapointed

>>76511807
well duh, but the issue stems from zoomies and others thinking they'll get shredded in a matter of months if they buy and use these products
and when they inevitably don't they get depressed and suicidal, that's just sad and that wop and sandnigger should kill themselves for contributing to male depression

>>76511815
>find deranged China mechanism of action supplement stack
>get swole AF off it
>go public
I feel like this is the only winning move left.

Someone set this all up to end Jeff's career

>>76511815
You have guys that are easily top 1% physique on gear post even here and you'll get
>Roiding for this
Because you ain't ronnie coleman blasting 20ius of gh and insulin. It's hilarious. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter because just having the physique is a blessing in of itself.
>>76511820
Oh no, a bunch of instagram pajeet niggers will kill themselves.

>>76511752
why do you keep spamming that forced meme pic

>>76511850
>a bunch of instagram pajeet niggers will kill themselves
you're not wrong about that though, ever been to moneterray mexico? i vacationed there and used one of their local gyms and almost everyone there were juicing, and they were honest about it, i was shocked desu

>>76511856
lol idk my bff jill

>>76510990
based 5'1 greg dunking on 4'11 jeff

look at that sandmonkeys arms, if u couldnt tell hes a roidtranny then you're a complete retard.

>>76510836 (OP)
he is wearing more expensive watch than douchshit. a $60,000 USD ap royal oak jumbo while douchshit is wearing a modest under $20,000 rolex. what a sucsexful life

>>76512230
watch nigger kill yourself

>>76511799
maybe he just did MORE curls lol

joking

>>76512193
Julians arms are even more ridiculous , his biceps look like they are gonna fall off his arm

>>76512230
No wonder he said he cant afford steroids. He spent all his money on that watch

>>76510886
>unless you're an ethnic
Statistically, he is.

>>76510924
>Then it's possible if you also have good genetics for it.
No.

>>76511013
/Thread

>>76511036
>Roiders on social media promising the moon if you just follow them and buy their meme routines/supps are cancer.
Well, just don't believe everything you read online?

>>76511799
>why is this allowed again?
Because exploiting stupidity isn't illegal.

>>76511820
Not really, if you believe what you see/read online, be it on YT or 4chan or whatever, you deserve everything that's happening to you. Nobody to blame but yourself.

>>76511815
>or get big enough until no one believes you are natty
Not happening as a natty. Sorry.

>>76510924
You are the person these queers target.

The whole drama could have been easily avoided if natties didn't spend every living hour thinking about other men.

>another demoralization thread
I don't know why the idea that you can build a decent physique without using roids makes people lose their shit so hard. People did it left and fucking right until roids were invented, but now people are convinced it's impossible to have delts with the slightest bit of definition without TRT and tren.
Like... you're really gonna tell me that getting to look like pic related wouldn't be enough for most people? That you need to be Arnold or your physique is dogshit?

>>76513461
you can be bigger than this if you would just stop obsessing over being "shredded"

>>76513461
You're missing the point, for most people who take steroids, it's not a matter of whether something is achievable naturally or not, but a matter of not spending your entire youth chasing it.

>>76513461
>You can be ripped too if you have great genetics and you started lifting at 12 and you lived before microplastics

>>76513365
Just because you're DYEL doesn't mean everyone else is.

I always see nattyfriends seething about roid users
I never see the opposite
Told me everything I need to know

>>76513560
>great genetics
This is the exact same argument 900 pound hambeasts make. All you're doing is making up excuses for not putting in the work.
Hell, there's no way to know who has great genetics and who doesn't. The people who end up with great physiques aren't the same people who have the ideal genetics for lifting in almost all cases. You will never know if your physique could be just good or if it could be stellar until you put in the work, which you are evidently not, if you're here bitching about your genetics instead.
>microplastics
Bro I hate to break it to you but that shit does not nearly have a big enough effect on you to negate a consistent gym routine and a good diet.

>>76513608
Hey I am just repeating what science based natural lifters say
Are you denying science?

>>76513560
This. And it’s not just great genetics, it’s one in a million.

>>76513608
Sydney Sweeny has good jeans, *wink*wink

>>76513362
but zoomies and alphas were sheltered for most of their lives thanks to covid, they don’t have the wisdom or experience we do when it comes to the internets and grifters, i feel bad for them :(

Roids is communism: “Everyone is equal”

Natty is fascism: “You must have one in a billion good genes”

>>76511799
Allowed? What do you mean "allowed"? They are not in high school, they are adults. They can do and say whatever they like. There are no rules, just a doggystyle world out there.

>>76511013
Kinobody

>>76513461
Billy Ralph wasn't natty.

>>76510836 (OP)
This was peak cringe. """Fitness""" influencer industry has hit rock bottom. Grifters, scammers, scoyence not-based lifters, roudtrannies, fake natty roidtrannies, transhumanists, shills, drug dealers, placebo dealers, gluttony, coomers, gooners, broccoli heads, thots, whores, trolls, retards, fuck them all. I hope Greg's douche-tte antics (on purpose or accidentally) cause this diseased tower to collapse.

>>76513585
Ok let's see that natty physique of yours without pump and angle frauding

Natty lifting is a joke if you're just in it for the looks
You will never look anywhere close to any of these roider retards, and even if they're pretending to be "honest" and admitting to roiding they're taking way more shit than they're admitting to
No one is saying you shouldn't lift, you can definitely get fairly strong and build some muscle as a natty but you won't ever get close to these motherfuckers

>>76513461
>now people are convinced it's impossible to have delts with the slightest bit of definition without TRT and tren.
It's mostly true though. Just look how many fatasses there are, people have no willpower. It takes like three months of serious lifting to see significant changes, and while you wait you know it would be a lot faster on gear. People are stupid too, so they think the choice is between a perfect body and all the women in months plus maybe some "side effects", vs. awful body and no women forever. So, a lot of guys who lift for aesthetics are on gear.

Not me, I do it for the difficult.

>>76513915
Good thing that isn't the goal for normal people.

>>76510836 (OP)
I think I've grown out of fitness e-celeb drama, I couldn't care less if some sandnigger was lying about his drug usage and was defended by annoying manlets. Shan't be clicking on their videos even if they pop up on my suggested.

>learn a new word every day in the fitness tube
fellow polymorphists whats good?

>>76513895
And this only took 2 years

>>76514005
>Normal people are NOT lifting to look good for the opposite sex

>>76514065
Optimal desired physique for attracting women is within the natty limit.

>>76514369
this is the part where they ignore data because it was all manufactured by (((them))) to sell ???? and then they also contradict women on record saying what they want by saying women don't know what they want or conceal what they want. because in the end, they just want to seethe

>>76510924
I like Lyle McDonald's take -- if you've been training and eating seriously for 2 years you are an advanced lifter regardless of how dyel you still look and how weak you still are. It genetic. It sick it piss.

>>76510836 (OP)
>>76510852
Jeff went to bat for this guy. Twice. How will he ever recover? And wait till Julian confesses.

>>76514369
Not anymore bub, it’s 2025 the year of insta and tinder
If you look like a movie star from the 70s you will get laughed at by 3/10 obese women

>>76514369
This desu, I always thought about roiding but the cons are just way too big, having to deal with the potential nasty side effects is really annoying, balding, acne, bloated face, organ damage, blood pressure, all that shit will make ur face way less attractive for having a bigger physique trade off

>>76514424
It's a valid take but you can still go relatively far beyond the gains you made after 2 years, it just takes time and some careful planning.

>do 0 work besides wiping butt with alcohol and pressing plunger
>spend 20 hours per week training like a maniac and feeling like dogshit all the time because you're completely overreached and still making 0 progress and you're hungry and stressed all the time
The funny thing is the top modality gives you even better results than the bottom.

Wait until you see a bunch of people in real life that take roids/sarms and still don't look like they lift. Its about half of the 12 or so guys I know on gear. Bonus points for when they go off and stop lifting or going to the gym entirely. Once they start, its about 3-5 years. I'm also subscribed to about eight dead bodybuilders I followed for content back in the day.

>>76514508
I would laugh at that physique too desu
but women are actually truthful in what they want they prefer tall guys, so long as the dude is tall they’ll overlook anything else
height>>>>>>>hair>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else

>>76514853
roiders at my gym are all balding in a way, they also never take pictures shirtless because they are all year bloated without abs, yes their arms and veins are bigger than mine but my natty physique looks way better imo

>>76515022
almost everyone is fat. Roiders and natties alike.

>>76510924
He did in 2 years and with shit training, he also started from skelly mode, anyone thinking he is natty is just retarded

Who cares about any of this shit when Greg still needs to make a video response to Mike's turkroacherone vid???????

>>76514853
Bodybuilders take HUGE doses (5000-10000mg test etc ++) of harsh compounds for years, Joe Schmoe bro runs 250mg test for half the year. It's like comparing the space shuttle to a Honda Civic.

>>76514047
Looks meh. And its in downlighting too. What did you do in the gym?

>>76510836 (OP)
if there are dudes like Einstein and Stephen Hawking who can be super geniuses why wouldn't there be guys who can get jacked super easily?

>>76515138
Such guys would come out the womb jacked. Too many mfers discovering their elite athlete genetics way after puberty.

>>76514047
I sometimes forget that on /fit/ you argue with teenager beanpoles, like this guy. What am I doing with my time..

>>76515206
the key is how the body responds to training stimulus. Just like a genius needs to study to actually make use of his potential, someone with genetic propensity to build muscle still has to train hard, if they never did any physical training they won't look like anything special until they tried

>>76511013
This. Im forever tempted to fraud just to work out more without as much recovery, but i ultimately have no real reason to.

If it was my job then yes obviously i would fraud as anyone would.

>>76510836 (OP)
>watch GVS's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10lyWplTFY
>first couple of minutes he completely dismantles the Fartcuck
>from his personality perspective (how Fartcuck is all about money and arrogance and only quick gains, ragebait, playing with natty status etc.) to the actual physique, time frame and so on
>but later in the video he still says the Fartcuck and that 2nd one deformed nigger could both be... natural it's just "very unlikely" and "we can't KNOW for sure" something-something that stuff goes crazy at the very tail end of bell curve and that people who say otherwise are "idiots"
>this was a day before Fartcuck's cringy confession and now the entire vid is double embarrassing
>another channel blocked, never watching a single second from that troglodyte

AHAHAHAHAHAHA
I swear fitness industry is a fucking joke at this point. This entire situation has exposed so many fucks it's insane. Just how out of touch with reality and just how genuinely, clinically retarded do you have to be to believe these "naturals".

>>76515530
Just posting about GVS because I was kinda cool with him before. Well turns out that that retard is out of touch with reality and common sense too

>>76510836 (OP)
DYEL former normie fag here, I thought it was acceptable within the fitness community to take roids? why would these guys lie about taking them and claim to be natural if that were the case?

>>76515586
because apparently some people ranging from women who think that off season Cbum has a dad bod to elite natural lifters with a decade+ of gym experience buy into that kek

>>76510924
yeah but not plausible for that nerdy guy

>>76515586
Because you get way more money from shilling whatever when you're natty
Like WAAAAAAAY MORE

>>76511077
normies use iq differently than spergs

thats why they are soulless even if they have 120+ iq

honestly spirituality is a sperg thing, you can't genuinely spiritually develop yourself without having something for the truth. im not talking about new age hippie spirituality, but genuine self-discovery.

Something like one in ten male gym goers use or have used gear. In any gym lessons than one in ten people even look remotely in shape.

Beyond the fact that every fitness figure will obviously be using gear the real redpill is that you wouldn't even know half the people on test even lift. I've known several, one fat guy who became minimally less fat and one guy who managed to get his bench from 80kg to 85kg in 3 months of a cycle.

>>76515586
>why would you admit to taking an illegal substance on the internet which is forever.
I swear all of you faggots are retarded

>>76515845
They would be even smaller without gear

>>76510924
You max out after 3 years as a natty. You'd know that if you actually trained natty for any significant time. After that point you either get bigger and fatter or leaner and smaller.

As someone else posted, people like you are who these scammers target because you believe in their clever lie that natties can keep making small improvements year on year until they start to look enhanced. This doesn't happen.

I don't understand any of this shit.

>>76513461
so how come you dont look like that?

>>76515852
I infringed on Merck's patent by taking MK-677 from a UGL back when Merck still owned it (got it GC-MS'd and tasted like bananas, so real). Sadly for Merck, the statute of limitations to sue me over it ran out years ago.

>>76510963
Arabs took down Rome and the Sassanids in a couple of years they are not physically disadvantaged.

NH practically abandoning his YT for a gay book club and coathing and this, among other things, has really cemented the fact that pretty much every one in online fitness is a fucking retarded faggot.

>>76515941
I gained 3kg muscles this year and I've been lifting for over a decade

>>76515941
>>76516344
how do I avoid this happening to me? im going into my 3rd year of lifting and it feels like I plateaud heard even tho I look decent, is bulking hard for months and months the only way to progress now?

GVS is on gear too

>>76513349
how utterly demoralized
god i hate indians

>>76510836 (OP)
His body isn’t even steroid worthy. Roiding for this XD XD XD XD

>>76516356
Honestly anon it's going to be diet more than anything. Took me four years to get a three plate bench because I was gregged and decided maingaining was a good thing.
Realistically just have a set bulk and cut period and you'll beat the plateau with ease.

>>76511008
Nips made not one but TWO recent videos which included arguments that this guy was plausibly natural, thus shattering whatever credibility he may have had.

>>76511004
Wrong. They only lied about taking drugs as a troll and to get views. Farhat is still claiming natty and offering a half mil, if you can prove otherwise. I plan on spiking his beverage with roids and winning that money.

>>76511013
Bullshit. You're a retard. I can spot someone who knows what they are doing and someone who doesnt and just coasts off the gear easily. Togi, Bradley Martin, and a bunch of nogs are completely fucking clueless on how to train properly. I can still follow fake natties if they give good advice, because they are advanced lifters who want to go past their natural limits. The issue people have is the retards who get suckered. I say fuck them. Not my problem. Grift away. It aint on me. I'm too cheap to ever get grifted

>>76515206
>Such guys would come out the womb jacked.
god youre fucking stupid

>>76517272
It is disheartening to see somemone do “5 reps til pump” for 6 months and tell you what kind of poptart they eat for breakfast and still be bigger than you

>>76517264
>doesnt know the half life oral steroids, thinks one dose will show up on a blood test
great plan, retard

>>76517283
Niggas throwing around "one in a billion genetics" without thinking about what that actually entails.

>named Hussein
>you expect him to be honest and not take shortcuts
Uhh

>>76515296
You find out young if you're that exceptionally gifted. Mentally or physically.
https://youtu.be/4VQK5bJ_eh8?t=578