Thread 76553834

I always see americans saying "It's easy to eat healthy if you have money". Is fast food really cheaper than real food over there?
In my turd world country, a big mac is the same price as 1kg of chicken breast, and about USD $1 more than 20 eggs..

Yes. In the "civilized" world, good food is more expensive than the poisonous foods. Maybe you can figure out why that is, Jose.

>>76553849
No, I'm uneducated. Even though I do know that the US is a net exporter of beef, poultry, fruits and other things.

Americans have this thing ingrained in their cultural psyche where everything has to be fast, you have to take the short cut for everything or do some unnecessary division of labour. It’s like Adam Smith lives inside the mind of every American pulling the strings like the mouse from ratatouille

For instance if I’m hungry I’ll make myself a sandwich from bread and ingredients I bought from the grocery store. Americans will pull out their phones, open the app to a fast food delivery service, place an order for a sandwich from Subway so some Indian can make a sandwich for them and wrap it up in 3 pieces of paper, a plastic bag and then put it in a paper bag and staple it closed. Then they’ll have an illegal immigrant drive to the Subway to collect the sandwich and then drive to his house deliver it to him plus tip of course.

Nope, this is cope

>>76553834 (OP)
No. Poors and fatties are just lazy and stupid.

>>76553834 (OP)
Americans have grocery prices comparable to euros while earni6at least twice as much. They are simply too fat and retarded to cook their food
>B-but I need to buy the meme organic food
No you don't, just cook your rice and chicken and it's impossible to get fat

>>76553904
Lazy because poor or poor because lazy?

>>76553834 (OP)
America is a place where a minority of very wealthy and educated people live among a disproportionate majority of subhuman cattle. There is an actual cutoff point I've found through numerous trials where everyone above the line practices and can fairly competently discuss concepts like logic, argumentation, and critical thinking while everyone below the line is sent into a wild rage when you even suggest that they adhere to some basic criteria of discussion if they want to be taken seriously. The latter would just prefer to burp, fart, and stomp their feet while emotionally reacting to whatever they can violently react to in the moment.

That is where statements like that come from. The reality is it is much cheaper overall to eat healthy food in the U.S. than it is to eat unhealthy food, but the vast majority of Americans are too stupid to even perceive any costs beyond the primary costs. When you suggest they might be accumulating costs through future healthcare complications, diminished quality of life, and so on they flip out. They actually flip out because a trait of these creatures is that if you make them aware of the costs, they treat you like you're a magical being that has personally introduced the costs to them by making them aware of it.

Americans of this type are superficially human, but if you dig into it a bit, they actually aren't that much more advanced than chimpanzees. Over enough time, you would absolutely get speciation.

>>76553925
Mostly the former. Stupidity is the cause of both.

its all marketing and cope. Vegetables are a couple dollars a lb. 5 pounds of chicken is 12 bucks.
rice lol
A protein bowl from sweetgreen or something is like 18 dollars for a meal and thats where people get the dumb idea in their head.

poor people think rich people eat like this.

>>76553834 (OP)
Yes. The problem that people don't understand is that poor people in America live paycheck-to-paycheck and taking out an hour for cooking is simply not economical.

>>76553834 (OP)
>Is fast food really cheaper than real food over there?
no
>>76553904
/thread
>>76553925
chicken and egg problem
people that can't figure out that Lawry's onion powder is made from ONION and that the ONION is cheaper
you know what I'm talking about

>>76553834 (OP)
it's cheaper and healthier to cook at home, it just that most amerifats are too lazy to cook or too stupid to do more than 3 steps to cook a meal. if you or your spouse enjoys cooking, you got pretty lucky in life

>>76554358
>an hour

>>76553834 (OP)
i buy 6 lbs of chicken breasts and 3 lbs of tilapia twice a week and its like $30. 25 lb bag of rice once every idk 3-6 months or some shit its insignificant. Same with my frozen vegetable consumption. I spend easily twice as much on energy drinks and soda that I buy in bulk than on the food a bodybuilder on steroids needs.

Americans are fat because we have been brainwashed by jewish food conglomerates that are allowed to sell addictive poison here for multiple decades. I know its a funny joke, but its not a personality flaw, a cultural thing. Our people are absolutely getting raped by corporate greed.

>>76554421
also our education system completely fails us. We, atleast the masses, are raised to be as dumb as possible. Just smart enough for menial labor and consumption to keep the wheels of capitalism turning. If you are from a modest country with a culture of naturally healthy people who don't know any better than to cook at home with real ingredients you are lucky and should pity Americans. I know this country seems like a fantasy land of muh freedom and opportunity but the reality is that it is the fucking matrix in real life.

>>76553834 (OP)
rotisserie chickens are $5
milk is $3 a gallon
eggs are $0.25 each
frozen vegetables are $1 for a 12oz bag
The cheapest fast food is 2 for $5 double cheeseburger at McDonald's.

>>76553834 (OP)
>>76553849
I can go to a grocery store and find 9oz of bagged lettuce for $2. A head of romaine is probably cheaper.

>>76554430
not to mention those cheeseburgers probably wont fill you up due to being devoid of any real nutrition and even if they do you're hungry an hour later

>>76553880
US is a net exporter of crappy quality meat that other countries try to avoid buying because of how tainted it is with antibiotics and hormones

>>76553834 (OP)
Fast food is cheap and easily accessible which is a part of the problem. The other is that people aren't taught how to have a clean diet and unhealthy foods are advertised constantly. Obviously schools should teach diet and exercise principles but the system wants you unhealthy and stupid so that won't happen.

>>76554430
As this anon pointed out actual healthy food isn't crazy expensive it just needs a bit more effort to be put in to create a meal but we live in a world where immediate satisfaction is what the masses desire.

Fast food is cheaper than restaurant food. Neither is cheaper than cooking. Bunch of lil boys who cant afford a good meal with a 20% tip and cannot cook.

>>76553933
>everyone below the line is sent into a wild rage when you even suggest that they adhere to some basic criteria of discussion if they want to be taken seriously.
Chekt and fucking correct. Being a tradie opened my eyes to this.

>>76555748
>tip
Do americans tip because they miss the tip of their penises?

>>76553834 (OP)
I spend hundreds of dollars on groceries every paycheck and im not even eating steak im eating fuckin ground beef and stew. Imagine being rich from jewing people with food prices what a bunch of niggers.

>>76555959
>no i cant fucking make money from this you gotta understand
Its not like im eating filet every day and then you say that shit while eating at restaurants and shit.

>>76553834 (OP)
>Is fast food really cheaper than real food over there?
calorie wise? yes
but otherwise not really

most poor people are just very bad at spending wisely in any dimension
not necessarily causation in either direction, but correlates a lot

>>76555748
>pesticides in produce so you dont lose money on the crop
>steroids in beef(illegal in chicken/pork/fish)

How do people actually bring themselves to do this shit, what do you think macromasteia is like jesus fucking christ people are stupid.

>>76553834 (OP)
Maybe it was true in the past, but its not now. Quality food (that isn't highly processed) is significantly cheaper than fast food. There are some exceptions, certain cuts of meat are really expensive, for example. But you can feed yourself for a week with good, healthy food for a good deal less than it would cost to eat out every day, especially if it's multiple times a day.

>>76555900
If I can‘t have my tip

N O B O D Y C A N

>>76553834 (OP)
I need a second fucking fridge to gain weight

>>76553834 (OP)
"Healthy" = Exercise + Diet

Exercise depends on willpower, Diet depends on intelligence. Healthy food is incredibly cheap.

>>76556017
>healthy
You are just gonna be less healthy without any fish/red meat, vegetables and carbs are cheap, i mean maybe chicken thighs and vitamins/iron supplements.

>>76553933
is it really true that those people don't understand per capita?

>>76553834 (OP)

Boomers fucked us over. They were lazy and self-centered about their own food habits and decided shit like home ec wasn't as important as chasing an imaginary international deficit in math skills. So now the average American doesn't know shit about maintaining a pantry or day to day food prep and they think every meal has to be Thanksgiving dinner at grandmas for every meal.

But they also managed to infect American culture with a knee-jerk reaction to throw a literal tantrum at anyone suggesting that they might not know something, so they literally refuse to believe that it's possible to put together a decent meal in less than 10 minutes.

>>76556534

> like home ec wasn't as important as chasing an imaginary international deficit in math skills. So now the average American doesn't know shit about maintaining a pantry or day to day food prep and they think every meal has to be Thanksgiving dinner at grandmas for every meal.

No, ita your fault. If you have to even be taught this you're a retarded person. Anyone with a >70 IQ can manage to figure this out from scratch in .05 seconds, coupled with the fact that you have the internet you have no excuse.

>>76556534
Not even a burger, but blaming boomers for everything constantly is the same as when feminists overuse their victim card on men

>>76553834 (OP)
It's easy to eat healthy whether or not you have money, beans, peas, lentils, any cheap cuts of meat, potatoes, and some seasoning and oil of choice is going to be infinitely healthier and more beneficial to your body than the diet that 98% of people are eating, on this board.

>>76556585
Not really, because one has a historical and cultural basis.

>>76554421
proof that the food conglomerates are owned by jewish people?

>>76556628
Ok, victim

>>76553933
>There is an actual cutoff point I've found through numerous trials where everyone above the line practices and can fairly competently discuss concepts like logic, argumentation, and critical thinking while everyone below the line is sent into a wild rage when you even suggest that they adhere to some basic criteria of discussion if they want to be taken seriously. The latter would just prefer to burp, fart, and stomp their feet while emotionally reacting to whatever they can violently react to in the moment.
That's true for every country

> When you suggest they might be accumulating costs through future healthcare complications, diminished quality of life
You don't even need to go that far. Just comparing prices directly for a second makes you go OH SHIT REGULAR FOOD IS MULTIPLE TIMES CHEAPER THAN FAST FOOD

>>76553834 (OP)
I never eat fast food but the last time I got a burger meal combo in Canuckistan it was like $20.
Fast food is poison and the excuse that it's cheap dosnt apply anymore.

>>76553834 (OP)
That boy needs longer pants

>>76553834 (OP)
Around me in the US, a Big Mac costs about the same as 1lb of chicken breast. So yeah, it does seem a little cheaper. But for the same price as a combo meal you can buy enough chicken, rice, and beans for 4 filling and healthy meals. The healthy food is expensive is mostly just fatty cope. Sure there's some "underserved" parts of cities that are "food deserts", where access to fresh groceries is limited, but that's also called the consequences to your actions because most of those places have had grocery stores at one point or another and they shut down and left because of the massive levels of theft and violent crime.

>>76553904
This

>>76555699
They teach about smart food choices and proper diet in Health class, which take pretty much every year. For me, it was every other week shared with PE up until 11th or 12th grade. Sure, if you're older, you probably got taught the old food pyramid, which is less than ideal, but still not enough to place the blame on. It's similar to the braindead argument that dipshits make about even pisspoor US public schools not teaching you anything useful like how to do taxes. They do teach you how to do taxes specifically if you take home economics, or a life skills class. But even outside of that they teach you reading and arithmetic, which is all you need to utilize to read all of the like 2 pages of instructions that come with the paper 1040 tax forms if you are also somehow too much of a luddite to just go online and fill in the blanks. The 1040 is designed to be catered to an 8th grade education level.

>>76553834 (OP)
Fast food is 'lower cost' in time. Either people are too busy working or too lazy to shop and cook. Basically healthy food is for rich people who have time to be picky about food or cook. At least that's what they mean by 'healthy food is expensive'

>>76553834 (OP)
Maybe pre covid the gap between fast food and a cooked meal at home was larger, but now it seems that with everything getting more expensive that gap is getting smaller. Although now it seems that its not just getting in your car and going to the drive thru, its paying for delivery plus meme fee for the driver to get it sent to your doorstep.

I really wouldnt underestimate the levels of laziness over here. My roommate would DoorDash almost all of his food and one day saw me cooking ribeyes in a cast iron and he was absolutely enamored. He asked me to show him how to do so and he got his own pan and did it for half a year and got some more cooking stuff. He also said that he wanted to be able to brag to her friends and impress people with it. He learned a few more recipes on his own, then he said he got bored of cooking for the most part and just gets Doordash again. He still cooks like the same 4 recipes which is better than before, but I really couldnt help but think he saw cooking as something to show off to your friends rather than a practical life skill.

>>76556534
Ive heard from a boomer teacher that fast food was something that was more of a monthly treat rather than their main diet. Also less women marrying to become housewives to cook for a husband who works full time and a family to take care of made it so that those cooking skills were less needed. Plenty of young single people and college kids made it the norm to get fast food or frozen dinner you toss in the microwave and it just stayed the same. If anything its more of Gen X and early milennials making it the norm.

>>76553849
Not if you factor in all the costs related to being a lardass. Medical costs, lower income because no one respects you, need to eat more to feel full, big and tall clothing, less fuel efficiency when driving, just to name a few.
Also, with basic meal planning, shopping at places like Costco and Aldi, and minimizing food waste eating well isn't all that expensive.

everybody needs to slow down. stop being in such a hurry and enjoy some good home cooking. You cant beat a great fresh nutritious meal shared among friends or family

>>76553834 (OP)
>Is fast food really cheaper than real food over there?
Depends on region but for the most part no
Packs of 18 large eggs cost me $4 yesterday (I eat six at a time so call that $1.30 per meal), even if I jewed the McDonald's app to within an inch of its life I don't think I'm getting below $7-8 for an actual meal as opposed to a snack

>"you need to be rich to eat healthy"
>eating "healthy", in their mind, means eating chemically sprayed vegetables

>>76558746
I only got my time back when I got a better paying job, anon. I love my life now but if anyone tells you money can't buy happiness they're wrong.

>>76553834 (OP)
not anymore
mcd combo meal north of $10

Feeling unpatriotic because I've never shit myself at Walmart

>>76553834 (OP)
No? Rice and beans are cheap as shit.

>>76556534
Wilson's federal reserve act did the most damage of any event of the 20th century and that was 1913
Boomer culture was an offshoot

>>76558967
Suffrage was worse

>>76555900
So no one else on the planet tips besides Americans? I wonder why that is.

>>76560784
Appreciation is a uniquely American phenomena

>>76553933
You just described the entirety of humanity. The culture may be different, but stupid stubborn people are everywhere. If you really aren't one of them then you'll understand that.

>>76555899
>Being a tradie opened my eyes to this.
It's realy easy to spot the higher and lower tier trades as well as their competence based on that.
The fatties, drunks, druggies and smokers are usualy dumb AF.
The skinny or muscle guys at the jobsite are usualy the ones who know what's up.
But the good tradies are mostly in industry anyway
-t. has to work with them sometimes

>>76553834 (OP)
everytime i go to the grocery these days it ends up costing just as much or more than fast food.
the only way to make it cheaper would be to absolutely povertymaxx and even then the difference would be maybe 3 dollars per meal

>>76553834 (OP)
It's significantly cheaper still to buy meat/veg/eggs and such and cook at home than it is to eat fast food every day. Even if you spend extra on organic the price evens out. As long as you stick to the cheaper meats like chicken/turkey/pork. Beef is pretty expensive, and eggs vary heavily by state (they're $5 a dozen for the organic variety where I am). The ones who say it's too expensive are stupid people who can't do math and just go durrrr 1lb of meat cost more than Mcchicken

>>76553834 (OP)
Highly based on state and if you're rural or in a city. City in a state that imports all its food? Fast food will be cheaper. Mid sized town close to farms? Grocery will be cheaper

>>76560784
Mostly because we used to have a really good economy and knew to be thankful. It's also why we were the most charitable country for decades. The economy has gotten really bad recently though.

I can get a sub for around $12 at Subway that has 18 strips of bacon, 2 pounds of chicken, 2 whole tomatoes (sliced), cheese, veggies, etc. or I can make my own at home and it costs me at least $30.00. So...yes. Some fast food IS cheaper. Some.

>>76557783
>>76560863
Found the Redditors.
>no, guys... africans are totally on par with japanese and euro engineering
>nah guys... there's nothing wrong with importing a million jeets every year.
>no way guys... americans totally don't produce low quality slop that nobody else in the first world wants because of low standards

>>76560936
Found the chimpanzee.

>>76560784
Only at certain places, and its entirely voluntary. Its meant to be a reward for the server going above and beyond what they're paid for. That's probably what it was in the states too originally, but it quickly got corrupted when restaurant owners (its easy to blame jews, but lets be honest, it was probably dagos) realized they could underpay their workers and pass the onus of paying their employees onto the customer. My understanding is employers are federally required to make up employees to equivalent to minimum wage what they don't make in tips, but because Americans all have that "embarrassed millionaire" mindset they don't want to rock the boat in case one day they're the restaurant owners and want to exploit their own workers. Mr Pink was right.
>>76560824
Tipping as Americans understand it isn't appreciation, its just a hidden tax.