Thread 76623729

Why the fuck do redditors get so angry when you mention that you do upright rows and weighted crunches? What the fuck is their beef with these two exercises?

>>76623729 (OP)
I don’t know, I don’t post on Reddit

>>76623729 (OP)
>What the fuck is their beef
I wouldn't know

>>76623729 (OP)
>upright rows
bad for shoulders, unnatural motion, muh rotator cuff and other exercise police bullshit
>crunches
Based on some reddit scientist who did spine experiments on pigs and now believes that if we humans round our lower back for even 1 second we are going to snap our shit and become paraplegic

>>76623729 (OP)
how would you know what redditors think about it?

>>76623729 (OP)
>>76623733
>>76623736
>>76623752
the only reason 4chan exists is so people can talk about some bullshit they saw on readdet while telling everyone else "go back to reddet"

>>76623780
nah senpai 4chan is just a porn site where you can say nigger.

>>76623729 (OP)
i would do them for 100
swtched to 65 with pendaly
now lie prone face down on seat and just pull the bar up to me from the ground to escape the back pain, could actually do way more for some reason

>>76623749
>muh rotator cuff
Shoulder pain from bb rows is why I switched to db high pulls.

>>76623780
>>76623920
I'm just here to see May Marmalade's tight asshole

>>76623930
How the fuck could you upright row 100 (kg?) But only pendlay 65? Your post makes no sense

I've heard that weighted crunches can hurt your spine if you don't keep your lumbar flat against the ground or bench. I have gotten a little sloppy with heavy crunches before, and experienced back pain afterward. Here is a good explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCYybClJ5Zk&t=158s

>>76623729 (OP)
I think these are kind of stupid but do them if you like them

>>76623729 (OP)
>upright rows and weighted crunches?
>les reditors
don't care of le reditors bot :D
whatever variant of crunches is retarded ilioposas abuse, and u're pumping rectus femoris to get bulbous thighs like vlad, whamanly bulbous forward protruding and high up covering your dick rectus femoris u are pumping, not abs lol :D
>>76624279
>ALL abs exercises are iliopsoas, crunch also, yes ditto for fancy machines, but your insistence on dragon flags (hanging leg raises, roman chair) made me try this retardation, surprised not - it's retarded, u are lifting ur legs up with iliopsoas
>so what if i bend knees and hips and fold legs atop of pelvis, but then i can't lift my pelvis up without holding onto sth, but i don't want to roll on spine anyways so i just need to weigh upper body down somehow
>so i grab 2 light dumbbells and move my extended arms with dumbbels past head
>>cool
>now i can lift my pelvis with legs folded on top of it up - i am not rolling backwards on spine curvature, i am lifting my pelvis off ground with just my upper back on the floor, not holding on to anything, just dumbbels in straight arms allow me to counterbalance weight of my lower body and i can lift it up
>>so what?
>WITH ABS I AM LIFTING PELVIS WITH ABS
>>but what is unique about your thing hooman ?
>full hip flexion (slack in ilio-psoas) without hip extending load - this is ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE BOT :D
>here's a (failed) attempt at what i achieved with above:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjFeAHXSoY0 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>>76623729 (OP)
>upright rows
retarded nonsense, u need to keep scaps down and out to do shoulder, OHP/BTN press position with 2 light dumbbells and u assume perfectest posture (DOUBLE CHIN OBLIGATORY) with scaps dropped down and OUT, LAT SPREAD BUT WITHOUT HIKING shoulders, and lift dumbbells in this alignment just a tad, head height - that's the working part of OHP that doesn't fuck u up, use as isometric hold, enjoy :D

I dont like that lift because it feels unhealthy on my joints. It has nothing to do with your funny ideas about the internet.

>>76623729 (OP)
i dont think theyre bad from an injury perspective (the fearmongering about shoulders or whatever) but they're a case of trying to do two things but not being great at either

you're trying to train your shoulders and your traps but your traps will be able to load way more weight than your shoulders will, and you're not training your shoulders as well as you could with a press or a lateral raise of some kind

weighted crunches are fine but you get more range of motion with a decline situp so those are preferable

>>76624335
>you're trying to train your shoulders and your traps but your traps will be able to load way more weight than your shoulders will, and you're not training your shoulders as well as you could with a press or a lateral raise of some kind
flexing traps raise scapulae, pinches em together and tilts em froward into anterior tilt which locks shoulder - i can go all the way up to straight arms overhead provided i keep my scaps down
jerking sth heavy in this alignment is fucking retarded, just like all exemercises for "abs" but mine:
>>76624327
>retarded nonsense, u need to keep scaps down and out to do shoulder, OHP/BTN press position with 2 light dumbbells and u assume perfectest posture (DOUBLE CHIN OBLIGATORY) with scaps dropped down and OUT, LAT SPREAD BUT WITHOUT HIKING shoulders, and lift dumbbells in this alignment just a tad, head height - that's the working part of OHP that doesn't fuck u up, use as isometric hold, enjoy :D
holding high handlebars with dropped and spread out scaps will work similarly - i tend to move between the 2 but dumbbels must be rly light to work in both: ohp and lat raise /upright row fixed versions of mine

yes i just distilled working part out of lat raises, ohp and upright row and made it not suck :D it's all in the lat spread but don't hike shoulders up :D
>>76624327
>and u're pumping rectus femoris to get bulbous thighs like vlad, whamanly bulbous forward protruding and high up covering your dick rectus femoris u are pumping, not abs lol :D

>>76623729 (OP)
>he knows redditor opinions

Move your elbows forward a bit, lean forward a bit, dont keep the bar too close to your body and stop when your upper arms are parallel with the ground, don't pull up that far

>>76623729 (OP)
don't go to reddit so don't know but I'll guess they are retarded and are incapable of proper form
>>76624335
this is not a dig against the upright row
you will never upright row for traps
it's a movement for the delts where the back and biceps can help push more volume for the delts
(personally lat raises are enough for my shoulders)

>>76624706
>Move your elbows forward a bit, lean forward a bit
Based. This basically fixes all shoulder exercises.

An anon here once said upright rows were fine as long as you don't go over the nipple.
It's raising the bar that high that crush the cuffs and that's where things get dangerous.

Retarded unnatural movement. Fuck OP.