Thread 76686014

I never really see any bicycle threads on fit, and I didn't see any obvious love on out or sports/XS, so I dunno if there's a better place for it. I used to bike all the time when I was in college and it was moreso out of necessity and convenience to travel around that city. And I rode some shitty quality bikes. I wound up buying picrel back in like 2018 on a good discount because it looked good on paper, but I just didn't care for it at all. And at that point I'd gotten my grown up job and moved out to the burbs which aren't at all bike friendly in my area. I still have it and it's in great shape and I have tried taking it back out to do something new, but I still kinda hate it. I figured that I could tool around with it because I'm pretty handy, but all of its standards are out of date, so upgrading it really isn't worth it. I'd probably be better buying a new bike and keeping the old one as a beater that I can then maybe eventually upgrade with old parts as I upgrade a way better base. Wondering what all you guys do bikewise? Nothing remotely MTB worthy around me, road biking seems gay as fuck, and gravel seems to be the new rage, and probably something like a gravel or more likely allroad would be the most useful for me. MTB does seem fun as hell, but I'd never really be able to use it other than making a weekend vacation out of it, because the only good trails are like a 3-5 hour drive. And I drive a fucking Altima. Which I can put a hitch on that, but then I'm dropping another grand just to chauffeur the fucking bike around for an at best 10-20 times a year excursion.

I enjoy a nice bike ride on a summer evening, just around mostly residential streets near me. It's something to do, a decent light cardio workout (sometimes I add in a sprinting workout at a school campus I bike to), and a way to enjoy the weather and just be alone and think, and I dint bring my phone or a helmet

>>76686014 (OP)
what dont you like about that, looks fine.

>>76686014 (OP)
The best way to get some cardio imo. It's an actual functional way of going around town without your car. Compared to running, you get to see more scenery on your route, and feel the wind during hot summers.

>>76686014 (OP)
cardio sucks because people do it for time and distance. It's the ultimate watching-the-numbers activity and watching numbers is boring. If you want to get good use out of your bike, you should use it for transportation - on bike paths, dirt paths, sidewalks, streets, and minimally: America's evil and stupid road-street hybrids. Never ever on roads, obviously. Find some place you can go while avoid roads or hybrid-roads, and go there and do something there and come back. If you can go to interesting places, even better. A beater has the advantage of you caring less if it's stolen or vandalized.
If a practical destination isn't possible, all you can do is flaneuring - focus on seeing what's going around you, bird watch, people watch, LARP as neighborhood patrol.
If you can't avoid roads, junk it and buy a rowing machine, or put it away until you can move, and next time take a look at the bike path layer of Google Maps.

>>76686264
oh, another option is to drive somewhere that has bike paths. I forgot about this but I actually see people doing it ALL the time because I live near really nice bike paths.

there is a better place >>>/n/

>>76686238
Part of it is definitely me. I just need to get better with learning proper gearing. It's a slightly tighter 2x10 gearing. It's my first "road style" bike ever. I kept with Trek because the best bike I had before it was one of their budget hybrids, can't remember the model exactly. I know it was an older DS 1 or 2. Other than that, the only things I think I can complain about is that some of the gear shifts aren't very smooth, and as far as I can tell, everything is set properly. Again, probably user error, but the right side bigger shifter, for moving to a smaller gear on the cassette seems wonky a lot of the time. It has that kinda 2 stage thing going on. I thought that it was supposed to be that one click moves one gear, and two clicks moves two, but it's super inconsistent. Other than that, it's experimenting with saddles to find my perfect assmate. I was more hipster back then so I got a brooks b17, and just didn't care for it at all, even with proper break in. I just got a super cheap WTB volt off ebay that I'm working with now. I don't love it, but don't hate it. I'm considering getting one of those AliExpress 3d printed copies that seem to be pretty well regarded though. The one thing I definitely need to do is get better tires. I'm still running the budget ones that came on the bike and with tubes. But I was thinking of trying to just get better used wheels. But that's where the compatibility issues seem to creep in. The bike is 6 bolt disk brake, but with 100/135QR, so it really limits what I can find. And I've been autistically researching it, and I can kinda make some things work, but it kind of requires the stars aligning and probably using adapters for the hub body brake mount and/or the hub endcaps. Which very few hubs offer. Which is why I was thinking I'd just leave this bike alone, use it as is, which is perfectly fine, but also not be super scared to leave it locked up for a few hours out in the city.

>>76686264
That's kind of what I missed about living in the city. Biking was just simply more convenient a lot of the time. My city is probably less bike friendly than average, but it was fine. But then I moved out to the more rednecky suburs for lower rent and less space, but it's pretty much zero bike infrastructure. There are definitely good road and light trail bike routes, but that's more of a bike rack and 15-30 minutes drive to adventure, which is more of a use half of a day off of work kind of thing. I am looking to move to a new city though. Mine currently sucks now since Covid made all the WFH techies move here and it drove up housing but my wages in healthcare have pretty much stayed the same. I can pay similar rents but make 15-30% more in somewhere like Denver metro, which is where I'm currently looking.

>>76686361
oh nice, thanks

>>76686014 (OP)
It's a great form of cardio. I prefer powerwalking these days though.

>>76686014 (OP)
I bought one recently with the intent of cycling to work
Cycled it home from the guy I bought it from, no problem
Couple of days later went to take it out again, and front tyre was completely flat
It's a tubeless tyre, I'm not familiar with how they work
Bought a pump and some sealant, then pumped it up and left it to see how fast it would leak
It's been a month now and it's still totally full
What gives? Did the tyre seal itself? Is it only with my weight on it that it'll go down? Do I just need to always bring the pump with me when I cycle to top it up? Should I put in the sealant or not bother?

I'm not really sure if a fitness oriented cycling general should be on /fit/ or /n/

>>76687445
Weird board I didn't know existed. Good to see some trains and planes autism.

I ride my Trek MTB every other day between lift days, best form of cardio in the sense that I don't get bored, an hour on a treadmill or eliptical feels extremely boring and tedious, where as I can go for 1-2 hours on my bike and its fun every time.

80% of the time I'm riding on pavement and its good steady cardio, but actual MTB trails are extremely good cardio and very intense with lots of uphill.

It's also a universal form of "hanging out cardio" i go on bike rides with my GF, my friends, and sometimes with my brother and his kids, always a good time.

Yeah you could say I'm pretty bike pilled

Yeah, I've got a nice local park with a dedicated bike lane, good scenery, and varied terrain. I got this thing in 2020 when you couldn't find new bikes anywhere

>>76686014 (OP)
Take the skateboard pill. It has a lot of bullshit terminology but it's been good cardio for even 3 or 4 mile rides around. Sometimes efficiency is counter productive to it being good cardio. I find it's a lot more convenient for short trips since you can just pick it up and take it inside.

>>76686014 (OP)
no, I juggle while running for cardio

>>76687690
good idea, from next year onward I will be juggling while skateboarding through the city

i ride my bike almost every day. usually 30 miles. sometimes 100+

i ride my bike to go to parks to go birdwatching.

>>76687981
>I juggle while running for cardio
you what

>>76687352
Yes, that's how tubeless tires work. The sealant is a kind of gluey goop with fibers in it, so it does a pretty good job of sealing up any kind of small pinprick sized holes. I'm not the expert on it at all, but I'm thinking that anything much larger than like 1mm or so of a hole probably can't really be compensated by the sealant, which is why the repair kit's for those kind of tires is basically just like a rubber stick, and a tiny shrimp fork that you plug into the hole to shrink it, and then allow the sealant to do its namesake job of sealing that plug in.

>>76687352
Or to be more specific in your case, the sealant also seals the bead of the tire to the rim. So adding sealant made the seal again. Tubeless is mostly the best way to go these days, but you do need to upkeep it slightly. Depending on how much you ride, you need to add a little sealant every few months. I'd google about it to get an idea. It's not super hard, but it's also something you want to be informed about because getting a flat that you can't deal with miles away from home fucking sucks.

bikeframe alloys are super cool
If I could I'd replace my bones with gamma titanium aluminide though, but 6061 is still cool
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6061_aluminium_alloy

>>76688401
My cardiovascular training sessions consist of repeatedly tossing objects in the air and catching them again while I simultaneously move my legs so as to advance in a certain direction.

>>76686238
is that seat not insanely high? its above the handlebars. surely its not proper to be hunched over that much.

>>76690851
this dude is jestermaxxing

>>76690851
no running was shown in this video

>>76690851
Publicly humiliating yourself isn't good for you. Fucking retards man.

I ride 30-50 miles per day, i average 21-22mph, on a good day with no wind 23mph

if you do want to actually ride, get a road bike, you can get a nice cheap aluminum frame road bike for a couple hundred bucks, and if you like it put more money in to a used carbon frame bike.

I can burn around 2000 calories in 50 miles if I'm putting in effort.
I started riding years ago because of what happened to my dad. He was an avid runner, he ran every single day for most of his life and it destroyed his knees, he is in his late 60s now and he's probably going to have to get knee replacements on both knees because he has so much pain now, but he still exercises by riding a bike. Much lower impact on your knees.

>>76690905
I stopped giving even a shred of a fuck what the morons around me think when they got mindbroken by their TV's into being so terrified of catching a cold that they accepted the destruction of the national economy and the purchase of useless biochemical RNA concoctions with billions of tax dollars.

Now I'm free to do whatever I want, so long as it doesn't land me in prison.
Juggling is great cardio because it puts the mind into a flow-state in which time flies by very quickly.

>>76687981
Hey man, from someone that can juggle 5 clubs: you’re rotating them with your hands a little too much, just try to flick your wrist and have faith in your rotations (and the trajectory of the club) instead of shepherding them around like that.
Juggling always looks silly but it’ll look less clumsy.
Good on ya, though!

You ever fuck with cigar boxes? They’re incredible cardio and a leg workout if you’re going hard in the paint.
One of my favorite props.
Unrelated: the other day a small child was freaking the fuck out while I was waiting in line at the grocery store and its poor mom looked like she was about to break, so I took out the oranges I had in my basket and juggled to distract the little dude.
It worked, and the mom thanked me.
I share this because it is incredibly rare that juggling ever actually looks cool.

>>76687474
Trains, Planes, and Autismoyeaah.

>>76690864
how come

>>76691110
>You ever fuck with cigar boxes?
no, those are too loud for my taste.
>it is incredibly rare that juggling ever actually looks cool
dunno man, when I walk through the city just juggling 3 balls doing very basic tricks, I get applause and compliments from people every 10 minutes or so, including entire bus loads of elementary school kids clapping and shouting. Practicing in the park got me laid twice this year, once with a woman who wanted me to teach her, the other time with a single mom who was happy I distracted her kid for a while.

>>76687474
skating goes in >>>/xs/

>>76691253
Not a trick skater. Just commuter boarding with a comfy cruising setup. You get crazy cardio pushing up hills. Trick skate kind of stuff always seemed ~fruity~ to me.

>>76689730
>>76689740
That's cool, we live in the future
Thanks anon

>>76690864
It looks wrong for a flatbar, but I'm also not a MTB guy at all. Most road bikes seem to be set up like that though. I have an all road bike and my seat is pretty much in line with my stem, but I'm also weirdly shaped at 6ft with only a 31" inseam.

>>76686271
>roads and cars are evil and stupid
>drive your car on the road to get to the bike path
you fucking dipshit

E-bikes are more fun and you can get the same workout while going even further distances.

Oregon Coast.

>>76691484
cars are fine.
roads are fine.
the only thing I spoke badly about was
>America's stupid and evil road-street hybrids
'stroads'. If you bike on them you're going to fucking die.

>>76691498
I feel like cyclists miss the idea of cardio entirely and just replace it with wandering while still paying rent somewhere

>>76691512
if your idea of cardio is only to get your heart to stay in some zone for some time, then you shouldn't use anything but a stairmaster.
you might want to replicate some of the natural, unpredictable varying load of biking over hills, though.

>>76691506
Bicycles dont belong on the road.
Bicycles are toys.
You dont play with toys in the road.
If you're a grown man and reply on a bicycle to get around you a loser and complete failure in life. The only exception is maybe if you live in a big city where a bike will get you around faster than a car due to the all the traffic.
But you dont. You're just a broke loser pedaling around on your povertycycle pretending you are better than everyone because you're getting le epic cardio workout while not contributing to global warming.

>>76691498
I like the concept of ebikes, but some of the realities of them still don't have me sold. You're looking at like $1500-2000 for a modest quality one for commuting, and it makes them the highest value target for thieves. And DJI's new motor has kicked off a power arms race for MTB's, which is most likely going to lead to ebikes getting a flat out ban at most state and all national parks in the not too distant future.

>>76691512
Why does going on leisurely bike ride trigger the cyclecels so much?
One more reason everyone hates you people is because you always larp as Lance Armstrong on the Tour de France on your LE EPIC RIDE to starbucks for a lousy cup of coffee

>>76691535
>lives in a city clogged with traffic and niggers who steal everything
>thinks its everyone's problem
kek

>>76691522
My bike is worth more than your car faggot

>>76691540
Ft. Collins is like 85% white and a very bike friendly city and they still have a problem with ebike theft because leaving thousands of dollars of easy money lying around that can be stolen with 30 seconds and a cordless angle grinder would still be a problem in even the highest trust societies on the planet.

>>76691536
This is a thread about bikes as cardio. Not bikes as pleasant way to get around. The priorities and conditions are very diffent.

>>76691541
yeah I'm sure your faggocycle costs more than a 2023 4runner.
Dyel loser.

>>76691556
>he owns a weebmobile and is calling other's poor

>>76691555
>You cant have an enjoyable ride and good workout at the same time
Like I said, cyclecels are all just Lance Armstrong wannabes pedaling around as hard they can while hunched over the handles bars looking at the front tire and not even watching where they're going while screeching how anyone who doesnt ride a bike exactly like they do is a fat car-addicted jew or something.

>>76691563
I think your idea of cardio is a walk.

>>76691555
scroll up
read thread subject

>>76691560
>LOOK AT ME IN MY WEEBMOBILE I AM SUCH A LOSER BOO HOO WEEP WEEP!
jealous poorfag trapped in his nigger infested city with only a rusty bike to get around. Watch a bitch you are

I did.

A nigger stole my bike off the porch 3 weeks ago unironically. I had a used Specialized road bike and I miss it.


The fact that some crackhead nigger stole my bike has been fueling my morning runs tho. Used to bike in the morning.

i ride a road bike because im too autistic to drive even though im in my 30s. its nice to get exercise and fresh air doing it instead of being stuck in a car, but obviously it takes up way more time than driving would, but it isnt like i have anything important to use my time for anyway. and its shrunk my world considerably because theres only so many places i can get to.

>>76691607
I don't really interact with true retards, but how can someone be too autistic to drive a car, but fine riding a road bike? Do you wreck all the time? Or is it more of a executive function disorder thing where you simply just can't be trusted with the higher responsibility?

>>76691751
its strange isnt it? im scared to drive a car but fine with having no protection riding a bike on the street with other cars. to be honest ive never even driven a car on my own, only a few lessons like 7 years ago, got my license, never drove again. i dont know why im so scared of driving. im aware of how pathetic it is to be like this at 33. i feel like i dont have the confidence to drive. even when im a passenger in a car i get scared thinking a car is gonna hit us, etc.

>>76691779
These are the people giving you advice on weightlifting and women on /fit/

>>76691794
I don’t do either

I love it. I mountain bike a ton. My current GF was a D1 athlete in track and cross country. We bike a lot together. I can't go back to non-athletic chicks. It's such a game changer to be able to be active together.

>>76686014 (OP)
>gay looking bike
>driving an altima
did you rip this thread straight from reddit? Cycling is based but you come across as a little bitch. Men have cool bikes and fast cars

>>76691805
My last 2 ltr's were with girls who originally kept up with things, but maybe just the bare minimum of 3 hours a week, but they both stopped completely when things got comfortable and both balloned up 50-100lbs. And neither was "athletic" before, just in ok shape. On the other hand, I don't want to deal with having to do a daily run or WOD's with a partner. I like to do my exercise solo, it's kind of like meditation for me. It's hard to find something in between. Enough exercise to keep yourself decent, but not obsessive over it. Most girls are just doing enough to upkeep until they can land a man, and that's annoying.

>>76691816
I have a Yamaha R6 for fun. A car is just to get from A to B. I never really saw the point of getting a track tuned car or 4x4 for driving to work and the grocery store. Just some budget sedan works fine for that. I think it's weird how many people around here have pickups with hitches and beds so pristine that you could eat off of them.

>>76691849
okay you're alright i guess. There still has to be times where you want to go fast in your altima but can't though

>>76691805
Living the dream. One day I want to go cycling with my dream girl the get home and spread those cheeks and just inhale her sweaty asshole.... One can only dream

>>76686014 (OP)
i have a "CENTURION" roadbike from 1977. it's got metal gears and was made in japan. it's the best fucking bike i've ever had.

>>76691916
I'm still an Altima driver at the end of the day. I'm faster and more wreckless than anyone else out on the road.

>>76691003
Have fun being an anti-social societal leper.

>>76691591
Look at how outdoorsy I am and where I got with my car! Fucking reddit tier faggotry. Your ancestors are ashamed.

>>76686014 (OP)
I got an e-bike a few months ago but haven't touched it in weeks. I usually only ride for a mile or a little longer, but it would be a nice work out and stress reliever that I need.

>>76692738
What bike did you get? Not trying to be a debbie downer, but 1 mile on pretty much any bike is practically nothing, it's like walking 2 blocks.

>>76692345
says the guy sitting in his messy room all day watching cartoons and posting frogs

>>76692946
A GoTrax, 15MPH and 15 mile range. It's not much but I got it half off and it was the best I could afford.
Yeah, one mile is nothing.

>>76692987
I guess you just have to keep up with it and build up. I'm in okay shape, but it's only been like 2 weeks of me trying to get into it, and for me, the limiting factor is my ass more than anything. It was like 10 minutes the first day, then 2 days later 15, then two later 20, all around the neighborhood. Tomorrow I'm going to drive out to the park that has bike paths and try and do an hour.

>>76690932
>i average 21-22mph, on a good day with no wind 23mph
how do you get faster? I'm lucky to avg 16 mph on 30-45 mile rides. I started riding in 2023. heart rate monitor and long z2 rides? sprint intervals?

>>76693155
>sprint intervals
Assuming that there's not some glaring issue with your bike/gearing/shifting skill, pretty much just that. Computers can help with pacing and efficiency, but it's one of many marginal gains, such as dropping $3k on an DA groupset over a 105. Most people would be better served buying an indoor trainer for that same cost to much more reliably do interval training. Depends on your routes though, just even doing more steady state stuff can get you there. 16mph isn't terrible, but I guess how hard have you been trying? Someone that's mildly dedicated would probably be getting closer to 20 on anything but an absolute garbage bike. On second thought, a head unit might not be terrible. It could maybe bring to light some issue you're not seeing. If you need power meter cranks too, it'll be a hefty cost though. If you already have them, but for some reason don't have a head unit, try and borrow one for a few rides. I don't think most people need one on the regular, but they're nice to have.

>>76693155
>anon can only ride 16mph on bike
how does it feel knowing even some perp-weight dudes (such as myself) can literally OUTRUN you on a freakin BIKE? kek.

This board just has levels up levels of different kinds of cycle skill issues.

>>76690851
kek, based court jester

>>76693241
>16 mph
you run sub-4 minute miles?
sure you do, Deepak. Sure you do

>>76693001
Before I only had a beach cruiser. I have a few big hills nearby, those were some workouts.

>>76693192
>On second thought, a head unit might not be terrible. It could maybe bring to light some issue you're not seeing.
like what? heart monitor you mean?

tl;dr
>live in Japan :^O country side
>have my own home gym
>run every morning
The running part isn't working out for me, I ride motorcycles so I figured maybe cycling would be a nice replacement for running. I'm looking at two bikes at almost the same price:
Giant Contend 1
Shimano Sora, 9.6kg, aluminum frame
Giant Contend AR 4
Shimano Claris, 10.3kg, aluminum frame
The biggest difference seems to be that the Contend 1 has a slightly better groupset, while the AR 4 has better overall components e.g. disk brake vs old rim brakes on the Contend 1. Weight wise, they are also very close.
So, spoonfeed me? I don't intend on ever competing, I just want a reliable bike that I can take out every morning down the river path.

>>76693338
get hydraulic disc brakes and thrue axles

>>76693286
No, the computer/head unit that communicates with a sensor that's (typically) in your crankset. Some can measure HR, but they're mainly for measuring speed, distance, elevation, and wattage. Most ones these days also do GPS. I ride for fun, so I don't care enough, so I just use my phone with Strava at the most. They have their place, but I think to many amatuers with dillusions that they could go pro just get too sucked into them.

>>76693346
At this point I don't think I need stopping power, if anything I need to go faster.
Another option is a used Giant Defy 3 2013 for half the price of the aforementioned brand new models.
Lighter and has a fancier Ultegra groupset.

>>76693338
Do you have links to the specific bikes? I tried looking really quick, but Giant doesn't seem great about listing their parts. The Contend 1 seems like an older model not in production anymore, and I'm only guessing that the AR4 is using the current gen Claris because they don't list the actual model number. It's possible that they are basically the same groupset due to trickle down. Older gen Sora is basically current gen Claris. I have an older bike with Shimano 105 5700, and that's pretty much equivalent to modern Sora/Tiagra.

>>76693367
Don't just go off the groupset name. On a 2013 bike, the Ultegra was good at the time, but it's more equivalent to modern Tiagra.

>>76693381
>>76693372
2025 Contend 1, brand new, $1,000
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/jp/contend-1
9.5kg
aluminum frame, carbon forks
Sora 2x9

2025 Contend AR4, brand new, $1,000
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/jp/contend-ar-4
10.3kg
aluminum frame, carbon forks
Claris 2x9

2013 Defy3, used from a large reputable bike shop, $600
https://jp.mercari.com/shops/product/9XTc4sqqsJx5t9UAsUK8cG
9.1kg
aluminum frame, carbon forks
Ultegra 6800 2x11

The 2013 is 40% cheaper, but obviously is a very old bike.
I will be entirely just using this bike for cardio, so from that perspective if the 2013 bike which is much cheaper works just as well then I guess it's the better option?

>>76693367
hydraulic brakes arent for the stopping power
combined with thru axles, hydraulic brakes are pretty much self adjusting, you never have to worry about messing with them, unlike mechanical brakes with quick release, where you have only one brake pad pushing againts the other, and quick release allowing you to sometimes overtighten and push the fork more to one side, leading to you constantly messing with the brakes

trust me get hydro brakes, even with quick release they are a whole class above mechanical brakes and will make you trust your brakes

t. claris owner

>>76693688
>>76694035
and canyon endurace allroad is $1000/1000 euros, which is an absolute steal, get it if you can, it has everything you will ever need

>>76693688
They don't list the model numbers of the parts so it's hard to say at a glance. But they both look like fairly equivalent parts. I'm also not familiar with the lower end groupsets as much as 105 and up. At a glance, I'm thinking that the AR 4 is maybe slightly better between the 2. The Defy 3 is probably pretty close too. Is there not a good used market in nipponland? If you're just looking for aluminum bikes, it's a pretty safe bet to buy used. Damage is more obvious. You'd just need to read or watch a couple used bike buying guides to get an idea. And if you're at all handy, you can often get a steal on a used bike that needs something replaced. You can get really good quality bike tools for cheap these days. I also work on cars/motorcycles, and I don't cheap out too much on those tools, but I've been perfectly fine with some cheap "Bike Hand" toolset from Amazon for most bike stuff.

>>76693241
I have an allroad/gravel bike, and I probably only average like 12-15mph on hilly road. MPH isn't the best metric, which is why computers exist. Watts beats all.

>>76686014 (OP)
I love biking, just make sure you set it up correctly so it doesn't fuck up your knees.

>>76695700
I think I've got it set up well, but I am a retard. I got a setup when I bought it, and it stayed that way in the garage. But then I autistically poured over fit vids, and changed the seatpost height based on that. Kind of a coin flip on who the bigger retard is between me and the bike techs. I haven't noticed any pain, but my cardio fitness is really the limiting factor right now. I can't really bike more than 30 mins or so on it before my delicate muscles start to get ouchy.

Bicycle + veganism = the new alpha

>>76691522
Post physique

>>76693338
Disc brakes are - mostly - a meme on road bikes. They are better in wet conditions, that's for sure, but in dry conditions there's no difference worth mentioning. They're more expensive, require more maintenance and cost more to maintain. So unless you really enjoy riding in the rain there's no real benefit to disc brakes.
As for reliability they're probably about the same when they come out the box, what matters is how you maintain them.
I would say what groupset is on there doesn't matter all that much for a casual rider, especially if it's your first roadbike. I'd say try them out and just see which one feels best.

>>76686264
how fat are you

>>76696575
>disc brakes are a meme
are you a retard
imaging having your rim as a wear part
imagine not being able to brake in the wet

and what benefits do you get? rim brakes are cheaper and lighter (not that it matters for casuals)

>>76697119
>imaging having your rim as a wear part
I don't need to imagine it, that's how bikes were made for a hundred years and it worked perfectly fine. It takes a long ass time to wear out a rim and by then you will likely have spent more money servicing your disc brakes than a new rim costs.
>imagine not being able to brake in the wet
See:
>They are better in wet conditions, that's for sure, but in dry conditions there's no difference worth mentioning
>and what benefits do you get? rim brakes are cheaper and lighter
Yes, they're cheaper and easier to maintain, require far less maintenance, they're lighter, and while it's a matter of taste I'd argue they look better.
There is a case to be made for disc brakes: if you often ride in conditions where the braking surface gets wet / dirty. Most people don't do that. If it's pouring down outside they won't go out for a bike ride. But if you're the kind of person that does that, go ahead and get a bike with disc brakes. If you're not, it's a waste of time and money.

>>76696562
>anyone who doesnt pedal a bike around all day larping as Lance Armstrong is obese
you people arent even sane

>>76686014 (OP)
Asking because this seems like a place someone might have a recommendation. I recently got a stationary bike and new bike after not riding one since 14. The only problem I've ran into is sitting on either of them for more than ten minutes makes my dick and balls go numb. I have tried a wider seat thinking that might help and nope still pinching the nerve. I also tried some shorts with more cushion but that didn't do much either. I know I should stand periodically but that just delays the onset not prevent it. How can I bike for hours and not lose feeling in my dick?

are bib shorts supposed to fit this tight?? i like going on long rides and my ass was getting sore from wearing normal clothes.

>waah bikes
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>>76697775
that happened to me as well and was very annoying but... it just doesn't happen anymore. Maybe I'm sitting differently. I did try to sit more on my 'sitting bones'. Maybe I lost just enough weight that the nerve doesn't get pinched anymore.
For the real bike something you can do is stand up often to pedal. It's more fun anyway, and lets you straight your back out and not always be hunched over like a tryhard. If I'm doing anything different, this is the only thing that comes to mind - that I don't just plop my ass on the seat for a solid 60min and only move my legs, but rather I change position pretty often.

>>76697775
If you have really bad problems with your grundle and balls, it's generally recommended to get a saddle that has a relief cut. There's also noseless saddles like picrel. I've never used them myself but some people like them. I heard they came into development after some big study on bicycle cops having pain and ED and stuff and switching to those seats pretty much eliminated their issues. I think the only real disadvantage to them is that you don't have a nose to use to help with bike handling, but with a stationary bike, that's not an issue at all. Might be worth looking into.

I've been commuting via bike for nearly 3 years now. I love it. I want to commute via bike for the rest of my life. I will do nearly anything to maintain a bikeable commute. Through sun, rain, and snow; I bike.

>>76694041
>>76695369
>>76696575
Last question, what about old carbon bikes?
I can see a lot of old Specialized Roubaix bikes. This one in particular is a 2016 Roubaix SL4 Sport with Shimano 105. Comes with a cycle computer and a stand. 600 usd. I'm leaning more towards this bike now compared to everything else I've posted so far.

bicycle + vegan = the new king, new alpha

>>76699766
More like newhalf

Bikes are goated if you live in a safe area. Otherwise it's stressful and eventually you'll get hit by a car, 100%. This is something pro cyclists say too. It will happen. Off road cyclists is best. Go 5x as far compared to hiking.

>>76697339
post bike you poor shitter

>>76686014 (OP)
yeah, i bike from my home to the greenways where i run.

>>76697897
>>76699044
Thank you anons. I'm definitely going to look for a seat like that

>>76700165
Here you go

My bike

>>76699613
To judge whether or not a used bike is a good deal requires some experience. You need to know where to look for problems and determine what state things are in. It can be a steal or it can be a money pit.
It's hard to tell from the picture but the drivetrain looks like it might be quite worn, which means you sooner or later have to swap it all out.
Other than that it looks in pretty good shape, the owner has probably taken care of it. But there's things you don't see, like bearings in the wheel hubs, bottom bracket, headset. Then there's the frame, which truth be told I can't say much about because I've never owned a carbon bike, but you might not be able to see the issues with the naked eye.
But to wrap it up a bit, if the bike is in good condition $600 seems like an alright deal.

Lots of bike/cycling threads over on /n/, but they're more focused on bikes as a means to an end, for obvious reasons. It's pretty good cardio, especially if you're a fat fuck, an old fuck, or just have bad knees and want something low-impact, and if you're a poor fuck, it's cheaper than a car. It's also nice if you have nice places to ride.

>>76700478
yes

>>76693338
Modern Sora is mint, highly recommend either Giant or Canyon's Endurace like the other anon said, just make sure to get the proper size for you

>>76697783
Nice ass
Also, it should be snug but not overly tight in your precious bits area. If you get some mild chafing, highly recommend chamois cream to aid with it. So long as the straps aren't killing your shoulders, that should be the right size for you

>>76700432
>Flats
Based

I've been doing 6-7 miles on my bike in the morning 6 days a week for a couple months now. It's actually pretty fun, and I look forward to it, but I would never bike anywhere besides some nice suburbs, and especially not out in the road with a bunch of niggers driving. I'm trying to get into running 2-3 times a week and eventually get into marathon shape but i'm not in a huge rush.

>>76699963
I have been hit by four cars over the course of 10 years cycling for commuting purposes.
Every time they were going the same direction as me, just not paying attention.
I did have lights.
Two of the times, the person didn’t even stop.
Wear a helmet, y’all.
People are dumb as fuck, it does not matter how good/safe a cyclist you are.
Thankfully I was a lil’ skate rat when I was younger so I know how to fall properly and not stick out my arms and shit, I’ve only broken collarbones and a shoulder blade.
>>76700168
Shoutout the fucking Greenway, mane.
I always thought that was something specific to my city, I didn’t know that they were commonplace.
Hell yeah, that makes me happy.

>>76702165
>plays in the street with toy
>gets run over
well duh

>>76702168
I know, they should stop treating cars like toys it’s crazy.
>but seriously
People aren’t afraid enough of that shit, man.
They don’t even fully grasp the physics behind piloting a two ton steel cage around, yet they’re allowed to do so with reckless abandon before they’ve even graduated high school.
I think that in order to get a license you should have to be strapped into a lawn chair, which itself is strapped to the back of a flatbed truck (you get a helmet, chill out), and then be taken for a ride down the interstate.
Just a mile or two.
In order to put the fear of god into any prospective driver.
Maybe you have to do it every few years or so, as we also have to fix how often drivers licenses get tested because that’s fuuuucked.

>>76702193
(Just so they know what the world is like when they don’t have that fragile barrier protecting them from experiencing the physics of what they’re doing)

>>76686014 (OP)
I've been meaning to pick up a bike again, but realistically I wouldn't be getting one for exercise; it'd solely be because I genuinely enjoy it. Mind you, I'm a bit of an autist, so I'd really only want a BMX bike and only really use it like a city bike.

>>76702193
you're the brain dead playing around on a bike around all those tons of speeding steel, maybe you should rethink that.

>>76702276
I know how stupid biking around is, I’m not denying that.
I’m just saying we need some large scale reform of how we handle driving and discerning who is and isn’t qualified to wield that responsibility, ydg?
I’d say that even if I’d never ridden a bicycle in traffic before and just drove around.
I don’t bike as much anymore and shit I see people do on a daily basis is just incredible.
It’s no wonder people are able drive around drunk as fuck for years and years without getting a DUI, all you have to do is preform marginally better than the troglodytes that are merging lanes mid intersection without even noticing.
I swear to god idiots are so obliviously dangerous it’s ridiculous.
Don’t even get me started on the elderly.

>>76702335
And where that Venn diagram intersects?
Elderly idiots?
So very, very fucking dangerous.
Good luck convincing one of them they’re not fit to drive before they’re involved in a serious fucking accident.
Not even just that they cause one, because if their car isn’t fucked to hell and back they’ll just be convinced it was someone else’s fault.

I think about this all the time because I commute by bike. You only get a "workout" if you choose to, and if you're not breaking all traffic laws you're definitely not getting a workout. For example and this may just be my long time conditioning, I can sprint flat out for 3-5 minutes without elevated HR, without breathing hard, etc., some of this is anaerobic, but mostly aerobic, but not even really breathing hard. Normally, you aren't even doing half the HR as running.

If you live in a flat place, you have to be going fast continuously for long periods of time to develop HR. If that's urban you can't sustain high HR stopping for lights and signs. If you're lucky enough to live in a hilly place like me, then it's easier. I ride steel frame. why? because the weight is the workout.

The only way to ride for high HR is flat out. That is not the norm for commuters who are way more conventional. They're also less experienced and actually think stopping for signs and lights makes them safer. One should spend as little time as possible with no forward momentum and not just because having no momentum means being unable to avoid an oncoming car, but because HR plummets.

If you want to make biking a workout, you choose the heavy bike, you choose the hills, you go hard all the time etc. but even then I draw the line if a grade is more than 5% I'll walk it. Riding up hills is something only noobies and e-bikes do. You can maintain HR and push up grades while stretching your calves.

>>76700409
lol

>>76686014 (OP)
i use zwift indoors, it's fun

>>76691003
Based as fuck anon. Same here.

Bike

>>76706147
not in America

I HATE BIKES AND JOGGERS

I looked into getting a bike again after a decade or so, and holy shit the prices are insane. New, low end Shimano groupset aluminum bikes are like nearly 2 grand. Used could be better, but I took a look at FB marketplace as well, and it's full of people that got ripped off trying to sell used bikes over their original MSRP. I'm mostly looking for a road bike, and their's nothing newer that 5-10 years old. But there are 2 different people selling a stock Gen 3 Marlin 7 posted for 1500 lol. If a bike shop even still had overstock of that, it would be selling for 750.

>>76686238
that bike is a monstrosity

>>76686722
giwtwm (the seat)

$230 frame
$120 brand new alexrims wheel
$100 paddles + 8 speed cassette (30-11T) + chain + XTR derailleur
$20 105 front derailleur
$30 brake pads

got sum vittoria training tyres from a fren

fb marketplace is the way to go

>>76709234
Lucky you, my marketplace is fucked. I was the one talking about people trying to sell Marlins for 1500. I thought about trying to just do a parts build. There's people selling 8-10 speed beat to fuck and back Tiagra-105 groupsets for like $800 (Firm, I know what I got).

>>76709272
Aliexpress parts really aren't that bad desu

>>76700924
>>76700432
used to usse flats until my leg slipped off one of them, scraped my pants and cut my leg on the studs
MTB clipless are comfier except for the shoes you have to wear

>>76686264
Or get a treadmill with a projector - I just rock out of bed and watch something every day.
No excuse not to

Had this bike for years - use it in Summer and take on holidays with me. Nice to do paths by the beach - this is Valencia, Spain

>>76709592
I'm fine with getting stuff like aliexpress wheels, saddles, seatposts, stems, bars, etc. But I'm not getting a drivetrain off there. Probably not a frame either, but I haven't looked into that at all.

>>76708886
>I looked into getting a bike again after a decade or so, and holy shit the prices are insane. New, low end Shimano groupset aluminum bikes are like nearly 2 grand.
I am Polish and I bought stolen german bicycle for 100 euros. I used it for few thousand kilometers and still works. It's not a road bicycle though.

>>76709272
>Lucky you, my marketplace is fucked.
Marketplace is good, buy cheap stolen german bicycles.

>>76708886
It is outrageous. Prices have gone wild. Bikes also have too many gimmicks like aero. Most consooomers don't need that. They need affordable light comfortable bikes. That ended in 2010's as did rim brakes. Disc is overkill I'm most cases. But there is a sign light basic bikes are coming back.

>>76686014 (OP)
>fun
>cardio

I saw a Mexican in my poor fag city riding a $6000 cervelo with his groceries..... He stole it right? I was almost considering stopping my car and asking if he would sell his bike for a few $100

>>76708904
that right there is peak 90s mtbing
gotta put a bigger chainrang on it once i go trough this one
though I've been having bit of a itch to build this 1999 marin full suspension xc race bike again

>>76696632
got up to 280lb 3-4 years ago. down to 160 now.
at no point did my opinions on cardio "for distance and time" change. I'm getting into running after finally finding a book (Running Revolution) that is actually good and not complete fucking garbage written like a motivational self-help autobiography, and ran/walk/skated for a very comfortable 6km.
yeah bud even if I halve my bf% again, I'm not going to think that cardio "for distance and time" is a fun thing to do. Neither do you or will you.

i don't know how to ride a bike ^:(

>>76710631
get a bike, lower the seat, and walk the bike around with your feet on the ground and in no danger of tipping over. Start depending less on the ground while you drift for short distances, and finally start peddling. Then fix your seat height.
Bikes are easy to learn, you just have to look crazy in the interim.

>>76710631
perchance are you a mongoloid? were you're parents related?

inb4 spelled your wrong, I did it on purpose moran

>>76691522
>reply on a bicycle

>>76692065
Wtf is this exchange?

>I wanna bikes, does anyone else bikes
>>pussi, MEN who arent GAY have fast cars and NO BIKES
>dw I have a secret fast car
>>well your still a little gay for having an altima at all
>its okay I'm still retarded and misuse drive dangerously to quell my insecurities

Both of you need to get laid

With a biological female. Fags.

I live on the top of a very tall hill and this is the minimum route length I have to take every night coming home, frequently I’ve biked 10-15 miles before I hit this two mile straight uphill. At least I get good cardio from it

I'm a dumb runner. Got annoyingly injured over the summer and decided to pick up cycling as cross training/plan B for the next injury, after like 15 years of never being on two wheels. Fuck me but bike handling is hard and riding is scary with my pathetically bad level of it + disproportionate cardio ability meaning I have no problem just pushing pedals (flat because being clipped in is also too scary). I've already fallen off twice and badly skinned my knee.

>>76712732
(you)

>>76686014 (OP)
bicycles are gay and only 50+ year old fat guys and europeans ride them

>>76686014 (OP)
I have a entry level road bike from an old century ride that I ride on occasion. But I really like the fixed gear steel frame road bike I have in a super high gearing that I use as a workout bike. If the bike is too efficient you have to go 40+ miles to get a good workout. I don't want to spend all that time on the bike, just short jaunts.

>>76714833
In my case only one of those things is true..

>>76687981
>>76690851
Very based.
Good on ya