Thread 76690595

>One high dose (25–30 grams) of creatine rapidly reverses (and even surpasses) the cognitive deficits caused by severe sleep deprivation

>In controlled studies, people given a high-dose creatine supplement after 21 hours of sleep deprivation not only recovered their cognitive abilities, they performed better than their baseline (fully rested) levels

>Neuroimaging reveals the mechanism: high doses of creatine quickly replenish brain energy stores, enhancing neuronal function and metabolic efficiency under extreme stress

>This immediate brain-boosting effect makes high-dose creatine promising for combating fatigue caused by something like sleep loss or jet lag

Do you guys understand how insane this stuff is? There's literally no reason not to take it.

>>76690595 (OP)
We're moving towards 80 hour work weeks soon aren't we?

Holy fucking balding

creatine, only once.

>>76690613
creatine, all the time.

>>76690595 (OP)
>take the hairline destroyer for a 0.01% strength increase goy!
>then you can take the dick destroying troon drugs to make it grow back!
How about go fuck yourself

>>76690657
Any strength increase on creatine is placebo, it just fills your muscles with water that's all.

random ass tweet, dont believe everyone with a D in front of their name

creatine does work somewhat for sleep deprivation yeah

>>76690595 (OP)
Why should I take creatine over amphetamine?

>>76690595 (OP)
>enhancing neuronal function and metabolic efficiency under extreme stress
But that does not necessarily mean it has a similar effect under normal circumstances.
Might try it on myself, nevertheless.

>>76690595 (OP)
Post the study

Use to take ON creatine and I felt nothing and my hairline was unshaded switched to some German shit and it makes me piss more feel warm and my temples are noticeably thinning I’m taking it to mean it’s actually doing something but I don’t know if I want to pay the price

>>76690657
Caring about your hairline that you likely have absolutely no control over was your first mistake

>>76690662
Kek
You bloat to help the energy uptake in your muscles
With the recovery time shortened, high frequency training can yield exponentially higher gains on creatine
You can look good without it but to get actually big as a natty, you need creatine

>>76690595 (OP)
>eating your own turds straight from your ass (2-5 logs) rapidly reverses (and even surpasses) the cognitive deficits caused by severe sleep deprivation
>trust me bro

>>76690595 (OP)
>creatine (37).png

Indian hands hired by Big Creatine wrote this post.

>>76690707
Absolute cope

Is it somehow proven creatine causes hair loss? I think you guys that experienced that were stressed out or some shit and that caused temporary loss, wasn't that?

>>76690873
It's genetic. I've taken creatine for years my hairline is still nice.

>>76690595 (OP)
Source?
Source?
Source?

>>76690657
you were gonna go bald anyway you retarded faggot

>>76690675
I think you misunderstood how creatine gives you “energy.”
ATP is the energy currency of our bodies and a little bit is left over as ADP which is turned back into ATP eventually and creatine expedites this process, literally giving you more energy to power through a few more reps.
It’s actual, physical energy vs. mental energy/being geeked up.
The other thing you mentioned is just gonna get you hyper as fuck lol
also
>imagine being so upset about your shitty genetics that you blame creatine of all things for you balding
Hoh-leee.

>>76690595 (OP)
Based, wonder if it protects the brain from damage at all (e.g. getting hit in the head)

>>76690609
kekked

so are you telling me 2.5g per day is not enough

>>76690710
>need
Let me guess, you've got a discount code?
>code: GOYIM for 6000000% off!

>>76690957
Wait, the serving size on my container says 3-5g per serving and I’m a pretty big boi so I’ve just been taking 5.
Although… At 6’3” 185lbs I’m relatively small in the scheme of bodybuilders.
Could I just be taking 2.5?

>>76690609
I'm already bald

>>76690608
It all depends on what we do about it. Implement the fine ol' solution or cuck to them.

>>76690943
… No. The answer is no.
I don’t know if you’re trolling, or looking for an answer to a problem that you encounter on a near daily basis, but no.

>>76691132
I posed it as an honest question motivated by curiosity
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8912287/
>creatine has shown some promise for attenuating symptoms of concussion, mild traumatic brain injury and depression
So not proven, but maybe

>>76690595 (OP)
cool, I'll save some creatine for if I'm ever suffering from 21 hours of sleep deprivation and then would rather do a battery of cognitive tests instead of going to sleep.
are you sleep deprived right now? Maybe take some creatine so you can ask again if this study strongly suggests that creatine does anything to help if you aren't suffering from this level of sleep deprivation.

>>76690657
I am 30, my hairline hasn't moved for a decade and I FUCKING LOVE CREATINE

>>76690657
creatine sissies, ouch

>>76690595 (OP)
So carnivore bros were right all along?

>>76690595 (OP)
alternatively sleep well and get more benefits
every creatine user i've seen is bald

>>76690595 (OP)
Yeah, you're right. You should buy supplements instead of sleeping properly.

>>76690595 (OP)
I work around 140 hours or more a week when I'm fishing, and I load creatine in my system for a month at least before I go. I sleep less than people 10 years younger or my age. I get like 4-5 hours normally. I take roughly 12 grams a day, 25 before working.
>>76691467
Like 70% of men experience some level or hair lose. The majority of men you interact with should be balding. Fucking the shut up, you annoying cunts.

>>76691725
>Fucking the shut up,
You made me so mad you turned me into a jeet.

>>76691725
im 33 and still have good hairline but started taking creatine since june

>>76691758
Good news, it takes a few months to kick in and you're about to get fucked

>>76691762
Shut the fuck up. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

>>76691762
Took in in the past aswell and i was fine, also june was 4 months ago

is 5g a day still the norm? I havent kept up in years

>>76691955
No

>>76691965
Then what is? Or are you trolling

>>76690595 (OP)
>BRO IF YOU DEFEAT DEHYDRATION YOU FEEL BETTER

yeah no shit dumbass

>>76690657
Do troons ACTUALLY use finastaride enough for 4channies to pretend they have a monopoly on it?

I tried 50g of creatine 2 weeks ago AMA

>>76692033
did you died

>>76690595 (OP)
>25-30g
>fart my way to a nearest black hole
oopsie

studies on creatine and balding fucking sucks, they probably don't do anything properly because both big creatine and big baldie profit more with things being ambiguous like that

there should be a study made with 3 groups, one of men that are already balding, another group of men that halted balding with meds (fin/dut), and then a group of men that aren't balding at all. test them for around 3 months while taking 20g of creatine or whatever is the dose that big creatine is pushing now, then we are going to see if it actually causes/accelerates balding and if it's just the people that are/were already balding that have problems with it

>>76692123
cope

>>76692156
cope what faggot

>>76692159
I don't know. I dont know fucking anything. I fuck everything in my life up and im a failure.

>>76690657
Quite coping. Accept Salvation.

>>76692176
There, there.

>>76690662
>>76690657
If you don't take creatine and you exercise regularly you are an actual retard. It's no 0.001% extra strength it's 20-35%
>>76690964
It's literally 30 bucks for a 200 day supply. Imagine being this poor, embarrassing.

>>76692367
This but the /r9k/ dyels love gaslighting. Same type of dudes who say 250lbs is obese

>>76690595 (OP)
You do realize right, that anything that is good for you is by extension, anti-semitic?

you're supposed to post the link with said information

>>76692424
250lbs is indeed obese unless you are literally 6’5 or something.

About creating and balding.
Both of my granddads as well as my father have great hair. I used creatine throughout the whole 2023 year and during Christmas dinner my sister has noticed that my hair got less dense. I have stopped immediately and due to panic, bought minoxidril and rosemary oil and have started applying it.
Honestly I thing that my hair density got thinner by about 15% at the moment I was still using creatine, it did went back, but not to the point before creatine.
Male 38, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I bone 3 times a week and drink coffee.
That's my honest reaction. Now for the opinion.
I do think that it's not worth sacrificing your hair for the benefits that creatine can give you. If your goal is to be freakishly strong and bulky, just hop on gear. If your hair is already gone, or you go shaved than ok.
Will I use creatine in nearest future? Probably not
Will I use it when I'll be old?
Yes.
As long as I can keep my hair in a decent condition I won't use creatine.

Anyone saying “its been debooonked bro” should watch this video

https://youtu.be/buwBs8zpGHY?si=NFnpkwYVx48EZmBs

NOTHING has been debunked. However if you are on fin or dut you will probably not experience the balding acceleration

>>76690707
r e a l

>>76690595 (OP)
>There's literally no reason not to take it.
bald

>>76693701
you absolute retard the men that get these women are exactly those who arent balding. there’s no single bigger determining factor for your success with women than your looks (you could argue money but then they arent attracted to you they are attracted to your money)

>>76691458
no true scotsman carnivore fags don't eat jew powder out of a bag.

>>76690595 (OP)
there is also evidence that it is good for old people who are suffering cognitive decline as it slows brain aging. it "feeds" the brain. more so important now with covid vax cognitive decline appearing.

>>76693700
Holy baldcel

>>76693993
bro i have a full head of hair because i am on finasteride and im never getting off it

>>76693998
I saw a pretty butterfly today

>>76694014
what does this mean lol

>>76693998
Same, fin and min saved my life. I also take creatine. And I'm a giant faggot because I take a multivitamin too. I must be a roid tranny putting so many dangerous chemicals in my body.

>>76694039
Any fin and min side effects? I'm terrified of fin but I'm even more terrified of balding. I've heard so much about post-fin syndrome and it basically turning people into trannies.

>>76694026
I saw a butterfly outside today and it was pretty

>>76690595 (OP)
carnivore chads won

>>76694047
Dick don't work but other than that everything's swell

>>76694047
i have been on finasteride since i was 19 i am 26 currently (for the past ~3 years i have been taking finasteride only twice per week) and my dick works the same it did before i started

>>76693700
>indian

>>76694346
rehab is a turk but yes still a deathnic

>>76690595 (OP)
I have a full set of hair and like to keep it that way.

>>76694450
I take 25g daily and have luscious hair. Don't be afraid.

>>76694451
In all seriousness, I would immediately eat it if it also made my body hair fall out. Imagine the freedom of never having to shave or trim.

>>76690657
An extra 0.5lbs of muscle every month is pretty good.

>>76694451
You seem to have good genes. I don't.

>>76694451
Why so much?
I just started and I only take like 5g and that feels like a lot, I’ve definitely noticed a difference in my lifts so I think it’s plenty.
Just curious as to the benefits of taking so much.

>>76694346
his accent doesn't sound indian at all, it's closer to a middle eastern accent, ESL faggy

Wait, retards here still believe the "creatine causes hair loss" meme?

>>76694894
They also think finasteride will make their dicks fall off. It's kind of a joke how many memes get repeated ad nauseum here.

>>76694894
>>76694898
Creatine does increase hair loss because it does cause a significant increase in DHT you fucking faggots. You are the retarded one for taking at face value what fitness influencers tell you and dont read the studies yourselves. A 40% increase in DHT is anything but non-significant. However taking finasteride eliminates this risk

>>76694898
this one is true though
but nice attempt at gaslighting your tranny drugs

>>76694900
>It’s important to note that while this study showed a temporary increase in DHT, all values remained within normal physiological ranges, and subsequent research has not consistently replicated these findings or demonstrated a direct link between creatine and hair loss.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12020143/

Kys dumb retarded baldcel nigga

>>76694911
A study funded by the creatine industry you cant make this up. Read the graphs for yourself instead of taking the “conclusion” of a creatine industry-funded study you fucking RETARD, do these values seem non-significant to you JFL

the reason that you are so retarded is that your whore mother was gang raped while being pregnant to you

>>76694918
Works on my machine. Probably because im not a genetically inferior baldcel

>>76694911
you are so retarded that your mother deserves to have her fingers cut off and penetrated with them JFL

>>76694926
you are a manlet gymcel that is going directly into norwood reaper’s arms

>>76694927
>>76694931
Im taller, stronger, and have more hair than you btw

>>76694932
you are 5’9” & a virgin, also im not even balding JFL

>>76694932
post hand with timestamp

>>76694940
>>76694944
Baldceldom: not even once

>>76694911
>>76694918
>>76694926
>>76694927
>>76694931
>>76694932
>>76694940
>>76694944
>>76694949

>>76694898
I do and have been doing the exact opposite of whatever 4chan has been saying since forever and I'm doing fine. For example, this thread.

>>76690595 (OP)
>One high dose (25–30 grams) of creatine rapidly reverses (and even surpasses) the cognitive deficits caused by severe sleep deprivation
How about, you know, getting more sleep after you were deprived of it?

>>76690608
Well are salaries going up and costs going down?
Time to megadose creatine

>>76690662
So it’s just causing cellular inflammation and bloating you?

Scientists: CREATINE DOESNT CAUSE HAIR LOSS LOOK AT THIS STUDENT WITH SMALL N SUBJECTS BTFO’D SHUT UP CHUD TRUST THE SCIENCE!!
Internet: post hair line
ACK

>>76690662
>it just fills your muscles with water that's all.
Increasing muscular hydrostatic pressure for a 10% strength boost.

>>76691104
Based

I take 5g daily in a bottle of water when I wake up. I only get about 5-6 hours sleep per night and I usually feel alright and I get into the gym every day and make gains.

So yeah, if creatine is the reason I'm able to do that, then yeah it's legit

>>76690595 (OP)
attention niggers screaming creatine causes balding in the chat
STOP EATING ANY ANIMAL PRODUCTS. creatine is found in basically every animal product. the leaner it is, the worse it is. A POUND OF 93% LEAN GROUND BEEF HAS 4 TO 5 GRAMS. stay away from that shit. Also STOP EXERCISING. THE MOST TESTERONE YOU HAVE, THE MORE DHT YOU HAVE. EXERCISE HAS BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE DHT MORE THEN CREATINE. STOP EXERCISING THAT SHIT IS GAY. whats the solution to this? Transition

Thank you for this information, I now got insane egoboost from knowing that I outlift losers in my gym without using this shit because I just go to bed and sleep for 8 hours.

>>76690595 (OP)
>lose ab visibility
>have to chug water all day
>itchy scalp, dandruff, and hair thinning
>all to pretend the shill claims about creatine are real

Yeah it doesn't do any of the shit it claims. Longest fad diet in history.

>The single most common question about creatine is if it causes hairloss or not
>Hundreds of studies have been done on this subject, with every single one finding it doesn't
Can't believe that so many people still dont take it specifically because of this

>>76696884
What's funny is that majority of men were going to lose their hair whether they take creatine or not.

>>76690878
This isn't the place for facts or reason.

>>76690609
>>76690657
>>76691762
lmao imagine being so weak taking a supplement makes your hair fall out

>>76690878
>>76696965
>>76696969
NOOOO, I'M NOT A DYSGENIC MUTT, EJACULATION DROPPING MY TEST TO WOMAN LEVELS AND CREATINE MAKING ME BALD IS HOW IT IS! FUCKING PAID SHILL, KIKE, DIE DIE DIE!

>>76693998
I have a full head of hair too and I don't take any tranny anti-balding drugs and I take creatine every day and have for years.
You were going to go bald anyway because you have inferior genetics.

>>76696975
Why do you take tranny sleep-deprivation drugs though. Do you also take tylenol to cope with joint overuse pain?

>>76696985
because he a hustler

>>76690595 (OP)
5g of creating gave me such horrible stomach cramps I couldn’t move for 4 hours

>>76697064
Try fixing your diet lil bulimia cuck.

>>76690707
>you likely have absolutely no control over

>>76696802
Post max bench

>>76697132
inverse of my minimum ROM

>>76696802
>not sleeping in the gym

>>76697416
I lift in my bedroom, so technically I do.

>>76694039
>>76694039
>And I'm a giant faggot because I take a multivitamin too. I must be a roid tranny putting so many dangerous chemicals in my body.
Most popular multivitamin brands have toxic fillers in them so yes you are putting dangerous chemicals in your body. Which brand do you use?

>>76697867
>some inert slop is toxins now

Or you can just go carnivore and get plenty of creatine without needing some jewish supplement.

>>76697915
Shut the fuck up dude no ones doing that gay shit

>>76697915
Can you link me some sources to back this up because google only tells me that carnivore diet losers cheat and post on facebook?

So am I supposed to take this dose every day? 25-30g?

>>76698002
No, you need to sleep, nigga.

>>76698020
I get 8 hours

>>76690911
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54249-9
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54249-9
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54249-9

>>76698023
then creatine barely does anything.

>>76698047
Youre a pseud and a dyel

>>76690608
Only 80 hours? Stop being lazy we need at least 90 hours to keep up with chink slave gdp a recent documentary told me. I can't believe goyi- I mean my fellow Americans aren't working at least 100 hours don't you care about giving $ to Israel??

>>76693701
>admit women are retarded pleasure seeking overgrown children
I admit it. Now what? Where my bitches?

>>76698060
Only a DYEL cares about adding 15lbs to 1RM

>>76697989
nigga creatine is in meat, if your on carnivore then your getting more creatine then supplement niggas naturally.

>>76690608
That's actually considered the norm in a lot of top tier industries like finance, law, and medicine.

Some of the old timers actually think 80 hours is light work

>>76693678
>if you want to keep your hair just hop on gear
lol
lmao even
I read just that line and was so sure this would be bait, but the rest of your post seems pretty sincere.
It has to be fun being this stupid, please tell me about it.

one time i travel for job hunt and i didnt sleep gr8 and i put 20g creatine in me and i feel i sleep gr8 ,but i shit myself

>>76690595 (OP)
>read this
>take 10g at once
>bloated with diarrhea for the next 36 hours
thanks asshole

>>76690609
I already got the baldiest hairline known to mankind.
If creatine can remove it completely, so I never have to shave the dome again, that's a small price to pay.

>>76690595 (OP)
Tried this, diarrhea didn't let me sleep next night. Brutal

>>76694676
You're literally posting in the thread that says why faggot

>>76692079
>>76697064
>>76701487
holy fuck you guys are weak. I take 35g daily and I FEEL NOTHING! NOTHING AT ALL.

You niggas need to MAN THE FUCK UP!

Above 5g will absolutely fuck your kidneys long term

>>76703386 just say you're a bitch.

>>76699606
You fucking retarded nigger fagget, can't you read you inbred subhuman boated by the greedy Jew to a country you're actually living?
>If your goal is to be freakishly strong and bulky, just hop on gear.
What it means, you low iq idiot is IF YOU WANT TO GET BIG DON'T EVEN CONSIDER CREATINE CAUSE ITS SHIT COMPARED TO GEAR.
There is nowhere where I have stated that gear doesn't fuck up your hair.
You must be a nigger of a halfbreed with a single mom and no father. Worst case scenario youre a paki-indian or British. What a god damn microcephalic imbecile, how many classes did you passed? 3? Can you even write or you were phone posting using voice to text? Even Coco the gorilla is on a level unreachable for you smooth brain, interbred, gay ass, melanin skinned, wide eyed having motherfucker. You're lucky you live in in today's world, because 85 years ago you would be ordered to T4 aktion you god damn retard.

>>76690595 (OP)
That was for the elderly, no effect on young people

>>76690873
Creatine slightly raises DHT which is a hormone that causes hairloss/thinning but depends on genetic predisposition how much you will be affected, and for some people creatine doesn't respond for them at all, but if you take a large dose (>20g) DHT rises more than a minimum dose

>>76703909
Thermonucler spergout

>>76690657
Wait Creatin is linked to balding?
I take creatin. Someone answer please

>>76690595 (OP)
>>76698033
The results in this study aren't groundbreaking, there is only like a 1% difference before/after creatine supplementation. You shouldn't use this study to come to the conclusion that creatine supplements replace sleep; the paper provides no evidence for that at all. This is one of those studies that shows a weak correlation to justify future research.
And yes, technically you said your conclusion is to "take creatine", but shame on you if you decide to hide in that bailey.

>>76690595 (OP)
there are no weird tricks in nature. Everything you need is already available in the whole food complex and taking massive doses of isolated compounds never found in nature is probably harmful.

>Take creatine
>Entire body gets covered in hives

You nigger will take this shit and still cope with trying to call yourselves natty

>>76705488
next your faggot ass will tell us how whey is un-natty

>>76690662
I used to take creatine for years then I stopped and I noticed 0 performance or muscle mass decrease. I actually set some PRs after years of not doing so recently and I've been off creatine for at least 18 months.

>>76690689
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54249-9

>>76690595 (OP)
source? who are you quoting?
>In controlled studies, 88% of healthy individuals (BMI in normal range, minimum of 8 hours of strenuous activity per week) who took small doses of creating (5g daily) recorded an increase in anal fissures and homosexual feelings towards their fathers

see I can do the same shit

>>76705503
and you probably want me to because you’re a slavebrain and can’t think for yourself

>>76705503
>Whey
>Natty

>>76705606
i dun get it

>>76705566
except you write like you have a disability

I'll help someone out(maybe?) cause you guys have helped me with my stuff. I have used a lot of time reading up on this lately because i am hoping creatine to be a PART of a the solution as far as my overloaded brain is concerned. (Dealing with a lot of stress, possible depression, testosterone deficiency and getting way too little sleep, among other things)

Now, obviously there are a lot of factors in play when we are considering just what use and effect something like this could have for a person but i'm just gonna, basically dump my data here. And everyone can do with it what they please.

>>76690609
>Balding
Seemingly debunked, not enough data

>>76691666
>>76695246
>Sleep more instead of paying for supplements
A state of sleep deprivation can result from a lot of things. Yes, you should definitely sleep more, but if for some reason you can't and/or the sleep quality is bad, creatine seems to be be used to combat this


>>76701487
>diarrhea
Taking large doses at time is indeed straining to the digestion system. If there are problems, you should try taking separate smaller amounts during your day, preferably with some amount of food. You also need to make sure you drink enough water during your day

>>76703386
>fucks up your kidneys
Creatine increases kidney waste product called creatinine, it itself doesn't mean that it's damaging your kidneys, but it will be a red flag in a test that doesn't measure Cystatin C. You take a test that checks that also and a medical professional will look at the bigger picture and see that nothing is actually wrong with your kidneys

cont.

>So how does a higher dose actually help your brain?
Aprox 5g of creatine will is needed to help your muscles. You will need a bigger dose to breakthough the so-called "blood-brain barrier because first the muscles are dealt with, then the bones and finally it will start helping your brain.

Stuff To Note:
If you just start with 10g it will take a while for your body to get into the state of enough saturation. Starting with a loading phase of 20-25g will get you into that state faster.

The real amount that is actually needed for a specific person comes down to their weight, how much of creatine they are getting daily and just how strained their brains are.

It seems to help with sleep deprivation because in that state your brain isn't rested enough to have enough energy for it's daily usage. Creatine helps by having your body to have another storage of energy to work with


Finally. I'm not a professional of anything. This is just stuff that i have read and heard about. So minor details might have faults in them. I haven't started to take creatine yet. Currently on the final week of my control month. I need to have something to compare my cognitive functions and energy levels to after i have started with my trial run. I'm gonna start with the loading phase of 20g and after that drop to 10g. (5g doses on different times of the day) I'll post here if i see any noticeable effects.

cont.

...And when i said "how much creatine they are getting daily", i meant how much you are actually getting it from the food you eat already

>>76690595 (OP)
How long can I keep doing this, though?

>>76703386
Drink WATER

>>76706440
do not