Thread 76701697

GLP-1s killed it. According to these women there's hardly any HAES activists ever since ozempic came around. Some of the activists have actually died.

Are we leaving the woods now? No more stupid tumblr fat activism?

>>76701697 (OP)
I hope its dead im tired of seeing fst "models" at target.

>>76701697 (OP)
The thing is, the whole movement was based on the idea that fat is genetic and not the result of overeating. Empathetic normies bought that, but then a pill came out that suppressed hunger and all these women fated to be fat with no possible lifestyle fix suddenly started shrinking, proving it actually was overconsumption all along.

>>76701763
Did normies even buy that? It seems like it died because the fatties didn't have to cope with being fat anymore and they dropped the whole thing.

>>76701765
I think it's this. Nobody actually liked being fat. The entire thing was a cope, because not eating was harder than trying to change literally all of society and the world to accept fat chicks. Once there was an effective weight loss shot/pill/whatever, without any conscious effort needed, it was over.

The thing is, WHAT was over was fatness. Fatness was a curse on these women, and the HAES bullshit was a symptom of that. Remove the fatness, the retarded world-changing naturally went away.

How were a bunch of dying fat people ever gonna keep a movement going?

>>76701697 (OP)
God I hate fat people

>>76701763
It is genetic.

>>76701697 (OP)
>GLP-1s killed it.
Nope. Normal people are just sick and tired of fat motherfuckers telling us to change our society to accommodate their fat lazy asses. Same with the g'damn tranny scum.

hmm. I think I'm kind of empathizing with the fatties on this one guys.
don't you think it's some kind of fucked dystopia where the men are taking steroids and the women are just as lazy and take GLP1s.
it's kind of like bioshock. and the impulsive unrelenting transhumanism is ultimately a large part of the downfall of society.
I think things work better with rules.

>"I feel like the movement started to die out the moment skinny people started teying to take it over"
You mean the amputees, burn victims, cripples, badly scarred, terminally ill etc that body positivity was created for and by before lard golems decided it was about them?
FUCK I hate entitled fatties. If you're gonna be fat, be aware that you're a third-class citizen, and either stay out of my sight if you're male, or accept your slampig status if female.

>>76701697 (OP)
I wish fat "people" kept existing so that I could feel superior to the actual majority of the population.

>>76701763
Their argument is
>erm overeating is genetic sweaty. here let me namedrop some hormons and talk about signals to the brain to make myself sound authoritative
It's retarded but not disproven by this.

>>76702174
I'd be careful anon, its people like you who fall behind when standards rise.

>>76701697 (OP)
Good. Now we need to shame women into actually working out so they can stop being skinnyfat melted candles. Its disappointing to take a bitchs clothes off and see everything spill down, even when they look semigood in clothing. They see no problem at all in heavy filter, angle, light, editing, makeup and shapewear frauding, yet they bitch about shit like male mirror selfies. I hate women

>>76702007
In 5 years the roiders will have exploded hearts and they'll find something horrifically wrong with glp1's. Wa la. Infinitely less competition if you just play the long game.

>>76701763
Suppressed hunger? Lolol.
If that was it then the obese coke heads would all be rails.

No. This shit is litterally fucking reptile venom. Its KILLING THEM SLOWLY.
You can tell by the erasure if all healthy feminine fat and wizard sleeve Olympic pussy.

We dont know what the fuck this shit is doing and the long term effects.
No fucking clue.

>>76702174
the most they will achieve is skinnyfat so it's still not hard to mog them

>>76701763
it is defacto genetic (mostly), not to say its impossible for some people to lose weight, just that its far more difficult for some than others for reasons entirely outside of their control.
your hunger and satiation hormone production rate is entirely genetic. Most skinny and fat people eat by the same signals: when they are hungry they eat, when they are satiated they stop. This means that unless you specifically use a food scale measuring every calories you eat, you eat according to the same signals as fatties.
further, people DO in fact burn calories at different rates (even with the same demographics such as activity level/age/gender/size/etc), the human body is incredibly complex and the process of turning food into energy is filled with several comparative efficiencies/inefficiencies which are decided by genetics
all of the above is well studied and known
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2336074/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30321282/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23509106/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31037612/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34426171/
t WAS a bloatlord

>>76702610
muh genetics sounds like fat cope to me

>>76702610
Yeah, I'd be a 600lbs fat fuck if I didn't grow up poor on a farm in a third world country with no access to fast food. My hunger is pretty bad, a few hours without food after a proper meal and I get cold sweats, tremors, and flashing dark spots in my vision (I'm not iron deficient). I can still feel hunger on glp-1, but it feels a lot more controllable and I don't get any of the above mentioned bs like tremors, wish that shit wasn't as expensive tho because I had to quit it due to the costs. People who've never experienced it firsthand will never understand what pathologic hunger feels like, you can't even ignore it, you can't fall asleep when you're that hungry.

>>76701982
I wonder if these movements have anything else in common

>>76701697 (OP)
>too "healthy" to be prescribed glp-1s
>the remnants of my tummy mock me every time I take off a shirt
>the recovering stetch marks assure ill never be loved
At least let me opiate my suffering so I dont have to bear the full brunt of living in the hell that is a bad body.

>>76701763
This. HAES died about two weeks after Ozempic hit the shelves. There were a handful of fat influencers that lost weight and got a lot of backlash from the fatties but that was it.
We all knew all along, the movement was a massive (no pun intended) cope.

>>76702610
>Most skinny and fat people eat by the same signals: when they are hungry they eat, when they are satiated they stop.
I've never once been fat in my entire life but I don't eat whenever I'm hungry. I feel some slight hunger for most of the day but I cba to eat because it's boring.

>>76701697 (OP)
Kinda just proves that the whole thing is crab mentality (always obvious but whatever). Strictly speaking you can be kind and non-judgemental of fat people and still desire to lose weight, these things aren't mutually exclusive. The fact that they get pissy that other people are deciding to lose weight just goes to show that their only real goal is to convince other women to get/stay fat so that they themselves don't look as bad in comparison.

>>76702363
I doubt they'll find any crazy new side effect with GLP1s. They've been on the market for like 20 years. It's just that they were always approved/studied/marketed for diabetes. It's always been known that they lead to easy weight loss as an extra benefit. It's just that they recently got approved for being used solely for weight loss, and insurance will actually pay for it in this manner.
Point being, it's fairly unlikely any major new side effects for this class of drug will be discovered that aren't already known after they've been out for so long.

>>76703042
>Point being, it's fairly unlikely any major new side effects for this class of drug will be discovered that aren't already known after they've been out for so long.
And even if they did, I doubt the side effects would be worse than the side effects of being morbidly obese.

>>76703488
naw that's bullshit. people taking it previously off label for weightloss does not help spread awareness of the side effects. except we know it changes your face.
but people won't realize it affects their face until later. and then they'll look in the mirror and see someone who is no longer obese. but it's also not them. it's some sort of abomination. so they decide to change something else about their face. and it goes on. some knife cuts. some botox. some more pills.
we've traded one health epidemic for another.

Unironically I wonder if creating a social media of a fat AI woman that is active and eats salads would be easy money from HAES retards.

>>76703590
Changing your face isnt a side effect. If we are talking about real side effects like serious adverse events there are zero for use for weight loss. Some people say pancreaticitis but in the study for weight loss it was equally distributed across all groups. We have long term safety data for diabetes patients and there are none

Its a super drug. Why does everyone always have to assume the worse. We have essentially cured one of the biggest world wide health epidemics

>>76703627
>We have essentially cured one of the biggest world wide health epidemics
can we cure fucking baldness instead please?
all these fatties had to do is stop eating that much and use the stairs

>>76703590
So called "ozempic face" is literally just what happens with any extreme/rapid weightloss. It's the exact same phenomenon as fatties losing lots of weight and having loose skin. That happens with the face too. If a morbidly obese guy loses all the weight he's going to have a sunken face regardless of whether he used ozempic or fasting or keto or clen or ephedrine or DNP or running marathons or anything else.

A former fatass will always end up having a haggard-looking face compared to if they never got fat in the first place. It's just the way things are, and certain damages can never be fully undone

/fit/ niggas be like “your body fat percentage has a pretty significant effect on how your face looks” and then be like “dude wtf a weight loss drug makes your face look different? must mean it’s literally killing you”

i hate how science enables female deception and dishonesty.

BMI between 21 to 23 is the only healthy range. Anything outside of that and even the luckiest person will have a higher mortality than they otherwise would healthy. Ironically, ozempic will be pushing dumb women into the sub 21 bmi range where morbidity accelerates even quicker

>>76701697 (OP)
The imagine in the OP pissed me off. I thought I was taking the rest of the year off after losing 30lbs in 6 months, but I'm back on it. Just got back on Loseit and I'm counting calories again. We're breaking under 200, lads.

>>76701697 (OP)
>>76703929
The fact they're so comfortable here - essentially admitting all the lies, gaslighting, and abuse of power they were responsible for over the past decade+ was nothing but a cope for their own shortcomings - triggers me so hard. No apologies. No real self-reflection or atonement. Just casual pleas for the HAES grift machine to rev back up again and force people to bend to their lies.

>>76701697 (OP)
they're gonna gain all that weigh back after hoping off glp-1 bexause they never learned to diet

>>76703929
i lost 50lbs since april currently at 195

>>76703968
no, some of us like >>76703973
used to be fit people that let themselves go.
Ive known how to diet for years but letting myself go made me really lazy

>>76703975
I'm talking about the cunts in the OP image.

>>76702610
Son, I've been a farmer of both land and aquatic animals, and there's one rule that holds true for all life forms, be they fish, beast, or plant.

More food = bigger hogs
Less food = smaller hogs

Take your genealogical cope to the midden where it belongs and hang yourself with it for being such a rube and a pussy.

>>76701763
>the whole movement was based on the idea that fat is genetic and not the result of overeating. Empathetic normies bought that,
It was actually about fatties not admitting that obesity is unattractive, and gaslighting bleeding hearts into giving them validation

>>76702633
>a few hours without food after a proper meal and I get cold sweats, tremors, and flashing dark spots in my vision
this isnt just regular "being hungry"
look up hypoglycemia

>>76701797
So what you're saying is, if we remove the problem, the symptoms dissipate...

>>76703929
Dagoth Ur was the real hero, moon and star. If he'd won he'd have been right all along. That's how it works.

>>76702610
Even accounting for what you said, how do people see themselves becoming blobs and not think "hey, I better stop listening to my hunger signals every time"? They should be thinking in the long-term and adjust for their individual variation accordingly. Everyone knows the shitty effects of obesity and it's easy to find out what your maintenance calories are.

>>76701697 (OP)
The irony of all the posters gloating here is that people on this board engage in the same self owning denial as the HAES in a different way. everyone refusing to believe red meat and saturated fat is bad for you despite the decades of consistent evidence from every serious researcher. They're setting themselves up for heart attacks and cancer just because they don't have the discipline to give up foods that they're used to, so they latch onto whatever egrifter validates their limited palate by telling them it's healthy.
Hardly any difference between the two

>>76705416
>LE JUST AS BAD!!1
shut the fuck up retard.

>>76705447
>t. spiritual lardass

>>76702527
>No. This shit is litterally fucking reptile venom.
Fucking retard. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>76701697 (OP)
If they're dependent on drugs, they'll gain it all back.

>>76701763
>>76701835
>>76702178

>>76705298
Yeah, I was tested for it due to my symptoms, but nah, my sugar levels are fine when that happens, I can start getting the symptoms when I'm still above 85. I've been dealing with it since forever, I'm already over 30, mate. Eating something sugary doesn't really help either, I need a proper meal with protein and fat to calm it down. Otherwise it keeps going and I get an upset stomach on top of that.

>>76705737
No nigga, look it up. Its lizzard venom

>>76706145
You can't even spell. You're an actual idiot. I bet you believe the Earth is flat and nukes aren't real.

>>76706145
The first GLP-1 receptor agonist, exenatide, was a modified form of a compound found in Gila monster venom. The newer ones like Ozempic, Mounjaro, retatrutide, etc. are literally just bioidentical human hormones such as like glucagon-like-peptide 1 (GLP-1), glucose-dependent insulinotropic polypeptide (GIP), or glucagon, modified to have a longer half life so they can be injected less frequently.

>>76705726
>>76705416
post body vegan soicuck

>>76702527
>wizard sleeve Olympic pussy
Dare I even look this up?

>>76706813
I've lost 70lbs and probably put on 10lbs of muscle but I'm still obese. I won't post body. But I've also reduced my LDL from 150 to 60 (and confirmed via NMR lipoprotein analysis that my lipid profile is now mostly less atherogenic), and I do not deny the lipid-artery hypothesis. I actually want my LDL lower for plaque stabilization and regression, I most certainly have plaque from decades of abusing my body with lard.

>>76702527
you have no fucking idea what you're writing.
Its literally just a ghrelin analogue, a NATURAL HORMONE YOUR BODY RELEASES AND ATTACHES TO GLP1 RECEPTORS TELLING YOUR BRAIN YOU'RE FULL

THATS ALL IT IS YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>76703590
its insane what retards are on this board, we're literally on /fit/, how is >>76703782 not basic knowledge here wtf?

>>76706775
no wonder ozempic freaks look like lizard people.
they took the gila monster pill.

>>76706934
cope harder lizard man.

>>76701697 (OP)
G1L-Ps are making my /fph/ threads stale!
Who wants to watch that guy vomit on himself in the sports seating over and over again?
All the content is dried up.
I hate the inventor!!

>>76706929
>Its literally just a ghrelin analogue, a NATURAL HORMONE YOUR BODY RELEASES AND ATTACHES TO GLP1 RECEPTORS TELLING YOUR BRAIN YOU'RE FULL
the arrogance of man.

>>76706830
all supportive structure gone

>>76706962
>TECHNOLOGY BAD!
inb4 you post le tranny schizo bomber

>>76706960
the real tragedy

>>76706984
>a NATURAL HORMONE YOUR BODY RELEASES
gila monsters naturally release it too.

>>76707069
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST CURE DIABETES AND OBESITY... YOU JUST... CANT!!! MUH LIZARDS!!!!!!

>>76701697 (OP)
They act like fat people don't exist anymore yet if you go outside you will see fat people everywhere.

>>76701697 (OP)
>health at every size
>it was ruined by skinny people! it should be ours!
lol come on now

>>76702610
this post is high iq

>>76701697 (OP)
I dont think it's spiritually dead. I think GLP-1s made fatness unfashionable as >>76701797 lays out. This can pendulum swing back the moment GLP-1s become unaffordable and/or inaccessible for most even through insurance/credit. Taking a drug is an easier out than changing society, which HAES advocates likely thought was an easier out than self-control. So the root problems are going to come roaring back when self-control becomes pivotal for any reason.
Or, even more likely, there's going to be a similar movement in the future on the other end of the horseshoe where people are told to be tolerant and accepting of GLP-1 side effects like the deflated bobblehead look as "genetics".

>>76707084
>why don't you trusssss the ssssccienssssssss anon

>>76707095
The only place I really see fat people at as an amerilard is my poorfag workplace. I assume most fat people stay inside in shame or are too fat to get off the couch/bed.

>>76701697 (OP)
Based. At least they finally admit it was just a cope and they hated being fat.

>>76701797
Jealous of gen alpha that gets to grow up in a world virtually free of fat women.

>>76702007
Most men aren't on juice.

>>76701697 (OP)
some philosophies, even ones turned into multi-million-dollar industries, are pure cope

never forget this rule of human nature

>>76701829
Kek
Underrated

>>76702610
>>76708802

>>76708802
>>76702610
>>76704558

>>76708862
kek

>>76701835

It's both genetic and behavioral.

sex with women (sex with formerly fat women)

>>76702527
>Reptile venom.
Nigga, do you not know what medicine is?

>>76702610
I feel like it'd be more accurate to say it's epigenetic
The biggest thing a lot of people miss with weight loss is that adipose tissue is *very* metabolically and hormonally active
In general, if you're skinny it's easy to stay skinny, if you're fat it's easy to stay fat
The phases in between are where your tissues will try to force your hand by releasing hunger-inducing/suppressing hormones and preserve "homeostasis" (because adapting properly is a long and painful process for the body)

>>76701697 (OP)
it's never been alive in the first place. have you ever heard of it outside of online communities?

>>76703973
>>76703975
Are you me? I had all the tools to stay fit, yet never bothered.
Lost 58kg since november 2023.

>>76702527
>You can tell by the erasure if all healthy feminine fat and wizard sleeve Olympic pussy.
I agree with you (I think) but I cannot understand what in the absolute fuck you mean by this sentence

>>76701697 (OP)
>people told these fat activists that they'd instantly abandon their cope ideology if they could press a button and lose the weight
>"oh, that's not true!"
>ozempic comes out
>they all abandon it
kek

>>76702527
>either they stop being fat
>or they die

>>76708623
Nah, there still will be way more fat women than during the millennial prime years. The late 90s and early-mid 2000s were peak. After that people started to get fat and that's happening fast.

>>76702610
>you eat when you're hungry
not really. there have been plenty of times in my life where I decided to not eat despite being hungry for various reasons, and I've never even been fat.
hunger is such a fucking minor inconvenience unless you've actually gone for a long ass time without any food, I have no idea how people expect me to take them seriously when they tell me they lack the willpower to skip a single meal per day

>>76702610
This is just bullshit lol 100% every fatfuck is just addicted to flavor and nothing more you're a fucking retard if you think every fatty is just HuNgRy AlL tHe TiMe

>>76710748
I mean I grew up in those times. I more mean in your adult years. Graduated high school 2008 and college 2013 to an ocean of horny fat women. Thank God for Asians.

>>76708623
yeah they'll be having tons of fun with everybody dropping dead or getting fucked for life from all the bullshit they're taking lmao gen alpha is definitely a picture of health so far - the ones that survived birth that is

>>76708862
Based

>>76701832
just so you're aware: that ((("man"))) has a vagina

>>76706929
Steroids are just FUCKING TESTOSTERONE ANALOGUES. YOUR BODY ALREADY PRODUCES TEST SO THERE CAN'T BE SUDE EFFECTS TO TREN

>>76710791
Nope, Dr. Mike Isratel said his wife is 4'11" and over 200 pounds strictly due to genetics and hunger drive and nothing to do with willpower.

>>76712139
both are ugly goblinos

>>76712139
ok looking beard

Its impressive to witness human cope at such an obvious level like this

Health at every size is basically the human brain being unable to accept that you are fucked. For many people it is a step too far to have to self reflect and say "I am in a bad place right now". Everything has to be someone elses fault and if it does appear to be their fault they deflect, ignore, cope, and misdirect

In the case of being fat and addicted to food its too much to say "I am addicted to food and I need help" so instead they say theyre healthy

Its not just restricted to fat people. You see it with problem drinkers, people who have shitty personalities, bullies, people who refuse to go to the doctors because it means theyre vulnerable

So many people cannot face the idea that theyre not perfect, which is hilarious because theyre usually extremely deficient. Narcissism is whack

>>76702610
Bro its all to do with junk food.

Its like saying its genetic that alcoholics become alcoholics. Yes sure but alcohol should not exist in society. Its a novel substance we invented in high concentrations that breaks the brain and makes you addicted and some people cant stop drinking it

Its the same with food. Its not muh genetics that make people fat, its the food that some peoples genetics are susceptible to

You were fat because you got addicted to hyper processed junk food.

>>76712418
The sooner people move to the idea that being addicted to slop junk food is literally the same as being a drug addict, the healthier society will become

>>76701697 (OP)
>Personally, I feel like the movement kind of started to die out the moment skinny people started trying to take it over.
IT WAS FOR EVERYONE, YOU DELUDED HIPPOPOTAMUS. The idea was for people who were built like tanks instead of toothbrushes to be comfortable with that and work with it, for people with burn scars and missing legs to learn to be okay with themselves. Then you self-centered fat FUCKS vacuumed it into your fat fucking mouths and made it all about you, like you do with everything. Your retarded corruption of a hijacked movement started dying because the FAT ACTIVISTS THEMSELVES STARTED DYING AT AGE 30 FROM HEART ATTACKS and NOBODY FUCKING BOUGHT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE UNLESS THEY WERE ALSO FAT OR A FETISHIST. Everyone on preddit needs to be fucking gassed, and the fat fucks made into soap and candles for the poor. Total redditranny death.

>>76701763
Fat is caused by undereating.

>>76712418
Alcohol is as old as farming.

>>76701763
no the whole thing is a communist attack vector to socialize healthcare

https://youtu.be/79PV62no7PE

>>76701763
Thinly veiled cico cultist ravings

>>76715607

It was both. Women by nature avoid accountability, get fat on modern industrial-capitalist goyslop, and refuse to make necessary changes because it "feels bad". The communists then take advantage of this, invent a bunch of shame based propaganda and political agitation that exploit fat women psychology, then use it to push for socialist healthcare and emasculated men.

>>76711580
I graduated in 2004, and it all went downhill in the second half of the 2000s. We went from skinny and slim women in lowrise jeans to landwhales with hankhill asses in leggings in no time pretty much. Bruh, we called britney fat in 2008... It's such a fucking grim timeline.

>>76713501
I know it is but that is still extremely novel and not inherent to our habitat

Farming is circa 10,000 years old
Human evolution happened over 10 of million of years

10,000,000 / 10,000= an order of 4 magnitudes