Thread 76713723

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>>76713723 (OP)
Calisthenic guys get huge
Powerlifters are fatasses who get btfo

yeah it's the only thing that worked for me, doesn't have to be a 1 rep max either, adding weight to your 12 rep max or whatever will do it

>>76713723 (OP)
I cannot possibly imagine going to the gym regularly and not trying to increase my lifts. Why the fuck would you not? The weight starts feeling lighter so you add more
Who the fuck is not doing this? You don't have to be a powershitter or anything to just fucking add some weight while you're there lifting fucking WEIGHTS

>>76713725
>Calisthenic guys get huge
rarely, for every calisthenic guy that got huge there are thousands of guys with pullup bars at home spinning their wheels with pushups and pullups for years and never looking like they've touched a weight
of course there are outliers
also just because some powerlifters bulk up to get fat in order to push more weight around doesn't mean that all day
in my experience the best gains I made in terms of appearance were when I was regularly adding weight to whatever lifts I was doing during whatever routine, that is the key
and you can do that with calisthenics; increase the stimulus and get added rest

>>76713723 (OP)
Most people at the gym don't know what they are doing. This has been true for forever.

Getting strong is very simple. Each time you go, add reps to your set. When you start being able to do a total of 40+ reps across all sets, then it's time to increase your weight and go down in reps.

And you do this again, and again, and again, and again. There are no shortcuts without setbacks. You can eat protein and creatine and that helps, but beyond that you're going to be either a fraud or a fat sack of shit and most of the times both.

>>76713733
>Why the fuck would you not?
People look for excuses not to do hard things. It's why fat women try 30 fad diets that don't work where they don't have to eat (much) less and stay fat.

If it's possible to fool yourself that you're making progress, people will do it.

>>76713761
>total of 40 reps across all sets
holy fucking cardio kek
>Most people at the gym don't know what they are doing
including you retard

>>76713723 (OP)
Powershitters don't do moderate rep ranges. Bodybuilders do.

>>76713733
Dubs of truth, who the fuck is going to the gym and not increasing the weight of their lifts over time? Other than already reaching your goals and just doing maintenance mode (in which case growth is not expected) what reason could anyone possibly have for doing this?

>>76713733
>>76713763
>implyng natrual bodybuilders don't increase the weights they lift over time
wtf man

I don't understand the point of that post
>muh progressive overload
anyone knows that

>>76713767
NTA but I think he means 40 total reps split out into multiple sets. So if you started at 4x8 and worked up to 4x10 at the same weight, you would then add weight because you crossed the 40 total rep threshold.

>>76713723 (OP)
You think it would be common sense. guy that 5x5 315 squat is going to have more developed hips then that body builder doing leg extensions kickbacks leg press 20 reps.

barbell is way more harder load on musculature plus nervous system and demands you not being a bitch which filters out 90% of the population.

>>76713793
>guy that 5x5 315 squat is going to have more developed hips then that body builder doing leg extensions kickbacks leg press 20 reps.
Lyle thinks leg extension and machines in general are better than squats for quad development lol

>>76713798
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t70SzIEnfO4
This dude has bigger legs then those black horse breeds they didnt get that way from doing machines.

>>76713763
That's fucking wild
Adding the weight is literally my barometer for progress every single time I lift. If I can't add weight/reps to each set, then I've either not eaten or rested enough single last session. It seems like so many people are trying to track progress by how they look and that shit takes forever and becomes less noticeable to yourself over time. Watching the weight of your lifts is having your finger on the pulse by comparison kek

>>76713767
When you workout you're going to be doing natural cardio. Under 40 reps across all sets is enough for progressive overload without gassing you.

>>76713723 (OP)
>goy social media post
didn't read don't care if I wanted to use a jewed social media I'd use a jewed social media.

>>76713808
>posting fat people
None of your opinions matter when you post fat people.

>>76713808
>just squat lmao 9pl8 bro

>>76713798
They indisputably are.
Even if you have advantaged leverages for squat they're still grow more consistently in isolation.

>>76713776
But if I add weight, I can't bench for more than 10 reps anymore? :(

>>76713733
>>76713776
you'll understand once you get past the newbie gains stage and adding weight actually takes time, consistency and active focus

>>76713798
lyle doesn't lift, and has never been strong nor trained anyone strong or big. all his knowledge comes from reading pubmd articles inside his room on his computer. of course he doesn't know jack shit about the reality of lifting.

>>76713897
>volume is a cope for when you cannot gain anymore
So strength is king and primary way, eh?

>>76713901
ok then this guy thinks the same thing, happy?
https://youtu.be/bie7dSvK2ys?si=-i7oxCvziDqm1v5V

>>76713733
>Who the fuck is not doing this?
About 90% of guys at my gym. They never gain a single ounze of muscle past the third month.

>>76713897
That is absolutely true. As you move into intermediate lifting, gains slow down and you actually need very proper form to continue. This is also when accessories to support your (now much more difficult) compounds become actually important.
You're still working on raising the weight, though. You just have to do more support work to keep raising it. Not all that many people get that far, though, because you can get a pretty decent body before that point.

Where most people fail at the gym is lacking an appropiate progression scheme. Most people don't know jack shit aboit lifting and can't be bothered to educate themselves. PTs are also at fault since most og them don't establish a progression scheme for their clients.
I'm not saying you absolutely need to add weight to the bar every single day because past noobie gains that's impossible. But having a reasonable, attainable progression scheme is tge diferenciating factor between success and failure at the gym. Most people don't know this.

>>76713932
Why would you establish any scheme or be useful and do what you're paid to do just to obsolete yourself?

>>76713723 (OP)
>go to failure and up the weight when you hit the target reps
Why do they say this shit like it isn't blatantly obvious?

If I can do two reps, the weight is too heavy.

>>76713767
>8-10 reps per set is 'cardio' for the fatlifter
kek

>>76713725
most calisthenics guys add weight to dips and pullups

>>76713723 (OP)
I'm not sure why this is some great ephiphany.
You have to lift weight to get big muscles.
Nowadays everyone is dyel because they do light weights x20 reps and dont even get out of breath.

>>76713723 (OP)
Volume is bunch of bs. If it was really true then long distance runners would have the legs of Tom Platz. Volume matters to some extent obviously but yes, it must be paired with more weight and more exercising. Often times different exercises on one muscle group is the answer.

>>76713723 (OP)
anon it literally states this in the sticky.

>>76713733
>The weight starts feeling lighter so you add more
these people never go close to failure, so they never grow.
the weights never starts feeling lighter for them

>>76713725
They have to add weights like weighted vests, backpacks.

>>76715942
For nattys intensity is more important than volume. Not saying volume is irrelevant, but if you're not adding weight to the bar at regular intervals, you're not growing.

>>76716555
Exactly, that's why most gymgoers never gain past the first couple of months. I see it every day at my gym.

>>76713723 (OP)
>TRVTH NVKE
More like common sense.

>>76713723 (OP)
why is he comparing natural bodybuilders and powerlifters? they have nothing to do with each other. powerlifting doesn't mean using steroids.

>>76713723 (OP)
It's basic common sense. If you can even do lots of sets of reps, you didn't actually push yourself to the limit.
If you truly pushed yourself, you could only do very few sets at that intensity.

Just because you spent 3x more time at the gym, it doesn't mean you're going to get more results. I learned this when I was doing Stronglifts 5x5 years ago.
I got more progress in like 3 months just by focusing on my strength and compound lifts than most do with all these stupid and useless machines.
My workouts would take like 30-45 minutes and were super simple, no need for overcomplicated programs with like a dozen different exercises.

And SL5x5 isn't even considered a pure strength training program. There are many with even less volume.

>>76713733
This, ever since benching 2pl8 I started having purpose again because I want to reach 3pl8 (hard at my height/weight) but I’ll keep trying

>>76713725
They don't. But you don't even do calisthenics, much less lift, so how would you know? Because you saw some roided youtuber selling a calisthenics program?

>>76713761
Or you know just keep adding weight to the bar

>>76713774
You know nothing about anything

>>76713853
You sound very small and emaciated, post these huge legs of yours

>>76713938
I guess so as not to be a useless fraud wasting everyone's time?

>>76713723 (OP)
I do sets of 25 slow reps before moving to the next bodyweight progression.

>>76716726
he's not

>>76716786
Godspeed, anon. Worthy goals always straddle the limit.
>Imagine the feeling when you put up the bar with 3pl8 loaded for the first time

>>76717016
Godspeed anon

>>76713733
Maybe it's that some people are doing such high volume that they physically cannot add more weight without reducing their rep ranges. Couldn't be me.

>>76713723 (OP)
you can train for strength without necessarily gaining much muscle, but you can't gain muscle without getting stronger

>>76713723 (OP)
>social media post
opinion discarded
90% of people who use social media are clinically retarded

>>76713897
???? Pls explain. Is that not something those in their newbie gains phase are doing?

When does it not take time consistency and focus?

>>76713932
Is it really hard to find one of the many free apps or programs by coaches online?

>>76713723 (OP)
>the difference is the last word of every sentence
Can somebody enlighten me on this cryptonym? If I say all those words in sequence will it activate some of the sleeper agents here?
Thread do always bar sport years else growth secondary grow end strong week sentence

>>76718867
Its just a roundabout way of saying
>the difference is, (in case you hadnt caught on) one is strong and another is weak.
Its a rhetorical. It is quite uncommon, but not so much so. Ive seen people type like that before on occasion

>>76713723 (OP)
Strength training isn't powerlifting

All fitness content is a waste of time for beginners. I see optimal zoomers now do 2x6-f for every exercise and call it a day.

Beginners do not need intensity not do they need to reach failure. This is why Rip was so dogmatic about SS because every novice thinks they're special.

>>76713901
>ad hom
>anecdotal evidence
It continues to amaze how childish the average gymbro is in their reasoning.