Thread 76719637

It's nearly the fifth day of fasting and I can barely stand to my feet and feel a numbness in my mouth. Before that, I was feeling great and very pompous about how easy it was but now i'm getting real cold feet. I also learned about refeeding syndrome which could potentially kill me and I have to spend 2-3 days consuming small amounts of liquid or bone broth to get back to base and I'm thinking I made a huge mistake as my OCD is now telling me that eating a piece of bread in my current state could fucking kill me.

What should I do?

>>76719637 (OP)
What a fucking retard

>>76719641
I'm well aware, how about you offer some advice if you have any?

>>76719637 (OP)
>le extended fast
Gongrats, you put your health in jeopardy to no real gain or fat loss and now you have to eat tasteless slop for a few days so your gut doesn't explode and kill you. next time, actually invest in a healthy diet OMAD and stop being a meme diet retard.

>>76719637 (OP)
>believing what /fit/ says
You only have yourself to blame.

>>76719681
Yeah yeah blah blah but what should I do from this point on, smartass?

>>76719637 (OP)
Just eat 1 sandwich you moron.

>>76719685
>Retarded enough to do /fit/ diets
>Still feels the need to talk back to his betters instead of knowing his place

>>76719686
But supposedly I should drink some non-sugar smoothies with light liquid and bone broth so I don't get intense pain in my digestive system and shit like that. Is that just a spook or should i eat a sandwich and get it over with?

>>76719637 (OP)
get some bone broth. four hours later if you aren't shitting your brains out try like a chicken noodle soup, then half a sandwich. You can do this in one day.

Also, electrolyte deficiency is likely the primary reason you feel so bad. People can fast for weeks if they maintain their micros and electrolytes. Grab a 12 pack of gatorade zero or some electrolyte packets and drink several of them. Possibly even just eating like half a teaspoon of table salt would perk you up almost instantly

>>76719692
Cool and all but how should I proceed with breaking the fast in a way that's safe? Mind, for fuck's sake, answering me that since you seem to know so goddamn better? Fuckass.

I ended an extended fast with a large Domino's once. Stop being a pussy

>>76719698
Thanks for actually answering. I will do this. I did fuck up by just drinking water and nothing else and this is a lesson.

>>76719702
And you didn't have intense diarrhea or digestive pain?

>>76719707
Of course I did, but it didn't kill me

>>76719711
I already feel like shit so I'll just ride out the time needed to get back to base and then pig out.

>>76719637 (OP)
>follows some meme advice from /fit/
>almost dies
>goes back to /fit/ to seek more advice
You are not very bright, aren't you...

>>76719715
How true is this refeeding syndrome fatality shit?

>>76719725
It's real, but easy to avoid

>>76719730
How?

>>76719734
>ASPEN guidelines for nutritional replenishment begin with 100 to 150 g of dextrose or 10 to 20 kcal/kg in the first 24 hours and then increase by 33% of their overall replenishment goal every 1 to 2 days.
>NICE (National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence) also recommended replacing electrolytes parallel to the commencement of feeding.[2] However, ASPEN recognizes that clinicians should consider holding nutritional replenishment until electrolytes are corrected in high-risk patients with severe electrolyte deficiencies. Replenishment should be delayed in patients with severely low potassium, phosphorous, or magnesium levels.
TL:DR, replenish electrolytes first, take it easy with the calories, don't eat your maintenance calories on the 1st day post-fast. Here's the link for the whole page if you want to read it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK564513/

>>76719739
Thank you, much appreciated!

>>76719744
No problem, mate. Also be careful of electrolytes imbalance, won't be fatal but try to avoid it.

>>76719637 (OP)
Were you cutting for like a show or the beach or something? Those ensure drinks would do you well also

>>76719637 (OP)
I did a 21 day fast
my refeed was potatoes, and for dinner kfc

you should feel fine during a fast, u fucked up somewhere

>>76719643
>I'm well aware, how about you offer some advice if you have any?
Stop acting like a retard

>>76719637 (OP)
Back in april I did a 5-day dr fast. No discomfort, no problems, no "refeeding syndrome". I broke the fast on a few pieces of cheese followed 15 minutes later by a big greasy burger and eggs. 5 days fast isnt much and shouldn't cause refeeding problems.

>>76719810
I'm well aware that it's probably incredibly unlikely I will suffer anything big given I had no health problems and have been balancing my weight pretty well but I really don't want to chance it and shitting my guts out so I'll take it easy and drink some water with salt and some bone broth for today then try an omelette tomorrow.

>>76719784
I'm well aware. I didn't at all keep up with my electrolytes and just drank room temperature water for the whole fast. Note for the future. I think I did pretty well as this is the first time I fasted beyond at best 36 hours so I'm proud I lasted so long but not happy i could jeopardize my health (potentially).
i just replenished my electrolytes and already feel a huge boost. my mistake.

>>76719715
many such cases

>>76719637 (OP)
The chances of you being struck by RFS are not neglibible but they're also extremely low to the point that most people can break a fast like yours with a fucking burger and suffer only mild cramps. It's only bad if you totally Whale out then yeah maybe you're in danger but as long as you don't retardmaxx and just eat a few slices of apple (with no skin) then you'll be fine and your system will be back to normal. i went 2 weeks on just electrolytes and black coffee and I broke my fast with a small plate of mac and cheese and nothing happened to me.

>>76719699
Hey retard, I fasted 5 days and finished it by slowly eating chicken, thats it. Refeed paranoia is overblown, you're not gonna have problems as long as you keep in mind "my belly was empty 4 a long time so go slow :)"

How do you think a caveman would refeed after "extended fasting" for a while before the next mammoth?

>>76719637 (OP)
Dude, you need to be careful. You got no electrolytes for days which is dumb. but you didn't even have a CLUE what your problem was?

The term "critical thinking" gets trotted around a lot, but nobody ever defines it for the poor misguided youth. Critical thinking just means asking yourself stuff like "is this bullshit? does it sound legit, does the source of the claim stand to gain something if I believe them?"

Now, critical thinking could have saved you here with a simple google, or even lurk moaring would have exposed you to snake juice eventually

Genuinely, be careful of falling for shit online and off, its going to get more difficult, not easier.

Not to be dramatic but you're lucky you survived this you fuckin tide pod brain, imagine it had been a more dangerous procedure you'd decided to try with 0 research or understanding

>>76719637 (OP)
>If I fucking starve myself I'll lose weight with absolutely no lasting effects on my health whatsoever
Yeah you go buddy
Just eat LESS, like 800 kcal deficit or something, you don't even need to change what you eat all that much, just don't eat refined sugars, processed food and fast food, and maybe increase your protein ratio a little compared to the other macros

First, relax.

Now you must eat very simple and REALLY small portions. I recommend a tiny slice of watermelon without the seeds. Go slow and steady. Follow the refeeding guides you've been reading. Drink broth and simple soups. Avoid meat for the first 2 days. Just steam vegetables like (sweet) potatoes and broccoli and carrots. Stop focusing on taste. Your goal is to restart your digestive system now that you've detoxed yourself. Avoid fast food, fried anything and unnatural sugars. Take things real slow and never eat till you feel full. Stop way before that happens then wait at least 3 hours before your next feeding. Restrain yourself from drinking too much water in one go as well. Never fill up and bloat your stomach. Always leave lots of empty room in it. Power through the nagging feeling that wants you to eat till you're full. Embrace the pain and discipline. Your fasting phase is not over.

Fast idiots need to get a grip and accept they have an addiction that they need to address rather than run away from

>Oh, I cant fix my food addiction so ill just stop eating thatll show everyone

No bro you need to work out how to eat healthily. The moment you refeed you will be eating like a hippopotamus for weeks I promise you. Youll gaini t all back and then some so why bother killing yourself over this. You are deranged

>>76719637 (OP)
Refeeding syndrome is because of depleted electrolytes? I only ever do 72 hour fast which doesnt really put you in the risk category for RS but I'm still taking in electrolytes as well as water. A shot glass of salt water three times a day (about half a teaspoon each) as well as potassium and magnesium pills. If you're not doing that with a fast past 4-5 days you're probably retarded.

>>76719672
>now you have to eat tasteless slop for a few days so your gut doesn't explode and kill you
is this a thing? I thought it only applied to people who've been legit starved for weeks. seems like a pretty retarded design for your body to kill itself just because you couldn't find food for 5 days when you can survive so much longer without any food

>>76719637 (OP)
>100+ hours fast and I'm getting scared
slow down

>>76719715
kek

to OP, have can of Sprite you dumb fuck. brb scared to have a nibble of bread. these posts are why I come here everyday. you cant make this shit up.

>>76719637 (OP)
Are you on hunger strike lad? What's the cause?

>>76719706
Jesus fucking Christ, you are a fucking massive dumb cunt, maybe the biggest idiot I’ve seen on 15+ years of lurking this site
Please learn the absolute basics of human biology before you fuck yourself up
You need micronutrients.

>>76720239

>>76720443
Just my dumb self image issues. I'm actually a bit skinnyfat and a bit overweight over what I should be and I wanted to shed it fast but obviously that was stupid when just Keto and OAMD would've done the trick in a bit more time. I'm now extremely fucked as just the slightest nible on an apple had me rushing to the bathroom and i think i may have a serious case of refeeding and I'm home alone due to circumstances and no one to reach out. i live in a rural area with no doctors or grocery market near without driving (which i can't) so the situation is grim and it's all my fault. I brushed up on my electrolytes with some sodium and feel good but I know that this won't last if i keep it up for much longer.

i have no bone broth or small berries because i cant buy them right now and i'm getting worried.

>>76719637 (OP)
You're such a fucking idiot OP that I'm actually sorry for you having to live as such a moron that you are. Yes, you've fucked up going 5 days without electrolytes or micros but since it's your first time, you'll be fine if you break fast with an apple and then by the next day you can have some carb-heavy plates.

>>76719641
fpbp

>>76720728
well you have an internet connection so you can google your way out it.
stop looking for short cuts. eat a simple ass somewhat healthy diet and do some basic ass training. that's all it takes. you'll be fit and healthy by christmas

>>76719637 (OP)
OP being retarded aside, how exactly does this stomach killling you for eating after a fast work? sounds retarded

>>76720790
Refeeding is no joke but very, very unlikely to happen to OP. He'll probably just have diarrhea and stomach craps and maybe a light flu if he just chomps down on a muffin. He read about it on the internet and his internet mind took it as a 100% fatal thing which it isn't. On a scale of 1 to 10, there's probably a very slight 1 of him actually succumbing to it.

OP, just fucking eat the first thing you have around you and stop being a stupid fuck.

>>76720790
Not sure about the stomach thing, its common to get the shits pretty bad after a fast, if you're too weak then diarrhea can kill you through dehydration and electrolytes inbalance. Refeeding syndrome is the body getting overwhelmed with food, insulin spikes, not enough micronutrients in reserve to process the energy properly, leads to all kinds of problems that can kill you. OP is likely worrying for no reason. If he was eating normally before the fast and isn't underweight or malnourished a fast for just a few days won't put you at any serious risk. Fasting for a week or more can be dangerous and shouldn't be done unless you 100% know what you are doing or under supervision.

>>76720348
It sounds like bullshit but it's serious shit. If you don't proceed with care, you could actually fucking die as your system just gives up on you. Cardiac arrest due to spiking blood sugar levels is the most common cause. OP is in serious trouble and he needs to be extremely careful with how he breaks his fast.

>>76719637 (OP)
Nigga, go break the fast gently with some almonds and water.
Eating after 50+ hours is something you have to do, you likely won't feel the urge or get the point of eating.
It will be alien
Eat each almond slowly.
Do NOT eat the entire bag.
Godspeed, retard.

>>76720834
so basically just take vitamins and minerals when fasting and ur ok

>>76720834
This. Judging by him undertaking this and worrying about it so much, he's probably a fatass and as such is at no danger of refeeding.

inb4: OP literally dies from buying into a meme
somebody make a thread if/when the news comes out

>>76720860
0 chance he dies. Stop meming. At most, he'll just get some very bad diarrhea but in a few days he'll be back to eating takeout and agonizing over his weight. Sadly, this would've been a breakthrough moment for him if he had taken it seriously. Now he'll just be spooked and just fatten up worse. Shame.

enjoy your muscle loss

>>76719637 (OP)
You're freting over nothing, just eat and stop being a retard.

>>76720896
Retard. If he spent 5 days fasting with no backup options, he's in serious risk of RFS and should talk with a doctor like yesterday.

>>76720903
Get a grip man, humans fasted for days on end for thousands of years, do you think food was readily available 24/7 in all of time?

>>76720834
He should still be careful though to be on the safe side, just very small meals or snacks slowly over the next two or three days. Fasting for more than three days is stupid and should be done only for spiritual/detox reasons. For fat loss it's retarded and dangerous.

>>76719637 (OP)
I've done a lot of 7 day fasts, and have never had any issues. I've broken them with large meals at Burger King or by eating pizza, and nothing happened. Granted, I was taking electrolytes the entire time and my diet was nutritious before hand, so I didn't have any deficiencies

>>76720950
See, OP didn't start taking electrolytes until the fifth day of fasting which is where his problem lies. He's walking a very tight rope and should tread incredibly carefully because this shit is no joke.

>>76721021
>because this shit is no joke.
It is a joke, though. One time I did a 7 days fast, no electrolytes or supplements. I just broke it by eating normally and nothing happened. It was as if I never fasted at all.

Fasting is in the Bible. It doesn't necessarily mean eat nothing at all. It means eat very little with restrictions (no meat/oil/dairy).

This dumb ass diet trend is going to kill people.

>>76719637 (OP)
Get your electrolytes, ideally make snake juice but any zero cal electrolyte will work. Don’t overthink the refreshing thing unless you go past 10 days. Once I broke a 7 day fast with tacos then got drunk. Past 10 days refers carefully but be chill. Eat some type of broth, then some more broth and a little beet of the solids in that broth, then maybe one hard boiled egg, then anything as long as it’s small portions

>>76719637 (OP)
Just do low calorie fasting.

4 days fasting = 4 * 2500 = 10,000 calories deficit / 3500 = 2.85lb fat (minus glycogen calories).
But at the end of the fast you feel like shit.

Whereas low calorie fasting, you just eat like 1000 calories a day for 6 days, rather than total fasting for 4 days, and you incur the same caloric deficit, but its way easier to handle, and you don't run out of minerals from drinking water and pissing them out.