Thread 76795406

are ballerinas athletes?

>>76795406 (OP)
what a ballerina can do is infinitely more impressive than some fat ugly bald moron lifting heavy objects in the gym

>>76795406 (OP)
they'd have great bodies if they didn't starve themself to death and didn't fuck up their feet so hard.
Sisters friend was super talented ballerina. once she got accepted into some elite school in Paris her body got fucked up because they made her starve and fuck up her feet even more.

>>76795406 (OP)
Yes

>>76795406 (OP)
yes. it's a very niche and hardcore sport.

>>76795461
they already have perfect skelly bodies

>>76795406 (OP)
Ballet is more of a sport than powerlifting. I know a guy with palsy who powerlifts, but I don't think that there's a single physically disabled guy or woman who'd be able to be a ballet dancer. You can show me some retard doing it, but that's like saying that a professional wrestling guy is a real wrestler.

>>76795410
TRVTH NVKE

>>76795410
>what a ballerina can do is infinitely more impressive than some fat ugly bald moron lifting heavy objects in the gym
>no muscles
>no ass
>skeleton build
>"men" are complete dyels and gay in 99% of cases
wow what a sport, I'd rather lift

this thread is cope. I'm familiar with a ballerina and I mog her at everything except flexibility.

t. powershitter

>>76795599
>"men" are complete dyels
not him but you have to he baiting. serious ballet guys have very aesthetic physiques

>>76795599
This kills the dyel

lmao, this thread started with asking if ballerinas are considered athletes.
But instead you have a bunch of geeks whose whole identity revolves around their hobbies and what they think looks cool

>>76795640
99% of /fit/ has never played a sport please be patient with these autists

>>76795599
>"men" are complete dyels
bait

>>76795599
>>76795681

This is what a ballerinas back looks like btw

>>76795537
chat, why does my petite gf have big legs and what can she do to atrophy them? She's not fat, but her legs are kinda big

>>76795681
>>76795692
>literal 150 lbs manlets are not dyel
ok retard

>>76795702
6'6" but cope

Fabrice Calmels is his name

>>76795537
god i love skinny athletic girls, i'm losing weight just to be lean and be deserving of girls built like this

>thread about an elegant ballerina
>turns into a fighting match about men's bodies
every single time

>>76795410
It’s time for your sex change, twinky

>>76795410
why not both?

>>76795692
>Gyno
Lel

>>76795702
t. Bloatlord

>>76795537
no fat on those legs

delicious

>>76795702
if you took an enema and liposuctioned all of your disgusting visceral fat from your hideous gut you wouldn't break 160lb. lurk more faggot

>>76795817
neither of these are impressive

>>76796174
Manlets like ballerinas cause they both stand on their tippy toes

>>76795599
Most male ballerinas look way better than every gym rat on this board lol

>>76795406 (OP)
thats a man

>>76795410
this guy is kinda right, lifting doesn't require any technical skill, you just progressively move something from 1 plane of axis to another for a set amount of days every day until you can lift more, and its linear movement. maybe deadlifts and squats engage multiple muscles but thats it.

>>76795681
>this is what a couple days a week of dancing and jumping around makes your body look
why are we even going to the gym?

somebody post that one twink stretching that makes everybody sweat and proclaim their straightness

>>76795406 (OP)
Why can't we decide on the meaning of words already?
It's so fucking stupid
Lean, ripped, burly, bulky, fit, otter, bear, dadbod, beastmode, slim, athletic, chiselled
>same picture
>everyone complains
An athlete does the athletism disciplines in Olympic sports. Nothing else. If you are the fittest negro ball thrower in the universe, helmet or not, you are not an athlete. You are a sportsman. Like a boxer.
A boxer is not a martial artist. Because you aren't doing pankration or something that was used in defense when unarmed during war. MARTIAL arts. You fight in a sport that renders your techniques almost unusable when all rules are taken out and weapons may be involved. Also various enemies. You are a sports-fighter.
You are fit. General fitness? You can do everything to a competent degree. Specific fitness = Fit to do what? If you are obese but can lift a rock over your head and are a strongman, you are fit. Jogging?? Not fit, fatty.
"Healthy". Wil you die or degrade faster than normal because of your own lack of self-care when it comes to exercise, sleep, nutrition, etc? Do you feel well without using drugs to balance it out? Can you play with your kids without tearing a quad? You are healthy.

Good ballet dancers aren't athletes. They are healthy unless they overdo it, like pro sportsmen. They are fit to many things besides lifting really heavy and maybe climbing, yet possess general fitness.
They look better than you, they fuck better than you, they could fuck you up and they mog you in general, because you are a dyel.

>>76795410
I think talented ballerinas are extremely impressive but being impressive isn't the same as being an athlete. I might agree that ballerinas are athletes but I need a stronger argument if I'm going to say that.

this thread is making me want to get back into dance again

>>76797300
Also a Pro signed a contract to do a thing for money. PROfessional. An amateur competes and doesn't get a check. Maybe gets money but not a constant, agreed amount.
Beginner, Master or whatever has to do with skill level. Pro is money. You can suck and be a Pro. You can be the greatest and stay amateur.

"Training" is exercising towards a goal
"Exercising" doing certain movements with the intention of excerting the body in a way. If you chop wood, you chop wood. If you chop wood to build endurance you are also exercising.
I don't agree with this one but it's how it's used:
"Workout" is a session of a group of exercises. "Working out" is going through that session.
If you climbed stairs 40 times today for your job, and you are spent, that wasn't a workout until you fucking say it is. Because intention makes the exercise.

>>76797335
You could be a pro at sucking dick, you could train at it, I would even say sucking dick meets your definition of "doing certain movements with the intention of excerting[sic] the body in a way". Do you suck dick for sport?

>>76797343
thanks. I'm totally 100% straight btw.

>>76797150
Ballerinas are literally perfection of the female form. That's not even debatable.

>>76795461
I studied music in college and the amount of pressure on you to practice and be better is insane, I can't imagine if that came with a nice big serving of body dysmorphia to boot

>>76797350
If I sucked with the intention of getting more skilled at it or tongue endurance yes. I hope I get a good workout, even.
If we sucked eachother off and competed on who makes the other cum faster, made people watch, then got others to do it with us too, it'll eventually become a sport.
You are a smart one.
We could even train daily and master it. But it wouldn't make us athletes unless we hammer throw each other after.

>>76797425
this makes my cock throb

I'm straight btw.

>>76797266
It's a lot more strenuous than a couple years of dancing

>>76795406 (OP)
Yes but DON'T google what their feet look like

>>76795817
Right is what it looks like when you just try to copy something move for move without bothering to learn any of the techniques or skills that those moves comprise of.

>>76797465
You won't last a round, greenhorn. Masters stay limp if so desired.
>captcha
>2amSM
>...huh

>>76795410
You will never have sex with a female.

>>76795640
Its just a handful of autist that haven't seen natural light, a non processed carb, a shower or a female since they graduated highschool that bait for (you)s by obsessively shit posting about powerlifters and roiders.

>>76795817
Who invited the skinwalker indoors?

>>76795410
>I can only give value to something by comparing it with what I don't like because im not able to do it.

>>76795406 (OP)
Absolutely. Ballet is HARDCORE. They're fucking psychos to put of the with all of the work, pain, precision, etc etc.

There's a professional ballet dancer at church I just met. She's about 22, uniquely beautiful, mild mannered and laughs at my dumb jokes. I'm 34, been divorced, unemployed, awaiting trial and very likely will be killed for being outspoken about my beliefs soon. So 50/50 she's my next wife and I can finally have children or I am dead before I get the chance. Despite my ex wife leaving me emotionally raw, I still find myself having to remind myself that day dreaming about a picturesque and happy future is as unhealthy as reminiscing about the past. Tomorrow is unknown and this thread has helped me to imagine her feet are probably jacked up at least. Which is something I suppose. What else can I say? I've been through the worst of it with my ex-wife and even still I'm such a retard that I STILL have fairytale dreams about a lovely wife and a happy family one day, but things don't look so good on that front, but also everything can change in an instant. So, nothing means anything. But wow, she's beautiful.

>>76798064
i can't imagine being two years older than my current age and typing this out, anonymous or not wtf.

i hope she sees the obvious red flags and stays far the fuck away from your freak ass.

>>76798080
Well, then just imagine you're typing it out 3 years older than your current age.

>>76798064
What are you on trial for

>>76797266
Gym industrial complex doesnt actually want you to achieve aesthetics, its just a mass slave ritual.

>>76797469
ewww
do they make good money to justify fucking themselves up?

>>76797266
>couple days a week of dancing and jumping
>year after year
>sometimes starting at a VERY young age
you're not one of those delusional /fit/ cretins that think you can achieve mid-high level ballet control by focusing on it for a couple of weeks, are you, anon?

>>76798064
i hope you bag her and find a decent job, anon.

>>76797266
You develop the Vulgar to better fit the military golem or workhorse agenda. When has any gymcel achieve anything beyond carry furniture once in a blue moon?
The Noble does not need (and indeed it is opposed to) usability.

>>76798712
>do they make good money to justify fucking themselves up?
I'll answer as best as I can because I feel like I'm one the few anons here who actually dealt with artistic - so called - community.
Vast majority don't and every single discipline you can think of, painting, acting, dancing, whatever, is usually enough to pay the bills but not much else. Hell, most of my college buddies, ones that still do things they studied, have a second job just to pay for necessary shit or make ends meet. Most well-off girls are probably the ones that dropped ballet after a few years and went for teaching at your typical run-of-the-mill schools but even there the competition is absolutely nuts (imagine hundreds of dipshits getting PE degree in hopes of becoming a successful personal trainer and you'll get the rough idea of what I'm talking about). One actually became a stripper because the pay is (at least it was when I spoke with her before covid era) something like 10-15 times as much, mainly through tips. Actors, I would say, have it worst, being a regular at your local theater is considered a sweet deal.
>tl;dr: any artistic pursuit is a complete shot in the dark, competition is insane, and you better find a way of making money on the side
Thanks for reading my random ramblings.

>>76795406 (OP)
Yes, but they creep me out, and not in an alluring way.

>>76797343
holy jesus

>>76798782
>bigger calves than 90% of fit
heh

>>76798782
This just proves that volume is king for calves, you don't get huge calves doing 4 sets of calf raises 2x per week. You get huge calves by hiking up big fucking mountain with a heavy backpack on, or being a gay-ass ballerina lol.

>>76798712
No

>>76798712
They don't do it for the money they do it for the love of the game

>>76795406 (OP)
thank you for this thread. Ballerinas are wonderful creatures.

>>76798064
>church
>woman allowed to have job
>woman allowed to dance in public
>very likely will be killed for being outspoken about my beliefs soon
so are you from saudi arabia or not

>>76798869
but probably it's just exercising in a way that works out both the soleus and gastrocnemius

>>76798869
I grew up skateboarding then as an adult started hiking, never understood why gymcels were insecure about their calves and complained about genetics and stuff. Your post makes everything make sense.

>>76798712
>do they make good money to justify fucking themselves up?
the highest rank dancers make something like 200-250K, not bad but that's not a lot in NYC

all the images you see of ballerinas feet are AFTER they've been in their shoes for hours on end, so they're red and swollen, here's a dancers feet before she puts her shoes on, they're really not as bad as you'd think. the biggest thing is the the bunion on her big toe. where ballet really fucks them up is with musculoskeletal problems, not cosmetic skin redness that LOOKS bad so it goes viral and gets to the top of google images

>>76799149
>here's a dancers feet before she puts her shoes on, they're really not as bad as you'd think. the biggest thing is the the bunion on her big toe.
her feet are disgusting even without yhe bunion.
>where ballet really fucks them up is with musculoskeletal problems
elaborate

>>76797300
There are at least two common definitions of "athlete" and only one of them specifies the olympic athletics events.

>>76798718
Hhhnnnnggggg

It is absolutely a life goal of mine to fuck a hard bodied but petite woman at least once in my life. Ballerina, gymnast, track athelete or similar.

>>76796174
She Jumping

>>76795681
mirin' those erectors.

>>76797343
My dream was to look like a Final Fantasy character and this faggot looks like one. I am seething

>>76795406 (OP)
>>76795410
>waste autistic amount of hours just to learn how to twirl around on your tip toes while having a straight back
>whoa impressive! this is peak culture!
i dont get it

>>76798756
Either you made all of this shit up or you really know what you are talking about, I don't know which yet

>>76799251
>just to learn how to twirl around on your tip toes while having a straight back
of course you don't get it when you dumb it down to that level you fucking retard

>>76799251
>amount of hours
No wonder you don't get it, you're more brown than the Ganges.

no

>>76799717
brown

>>76795702
I'm going to beat you to death

>>76795406 (OP)
I acknowledge the skill and effort it takes to pull off these maneuvers while mangling your feet in that awkward posture but aside from that technical distinction it looks the same as a toddler flailing around to me. It's "technically" graceful the same way that a powerlifter ROM frauding a 2 inch bench or 6inch sumo "deadlift" is technically a display of strength.

Not trying to be some uncultured trog here either, because I find artistic merit and beauty in things like figure skating, but ballet will never not look spastic to me.

>>76799920
>but aside from that technical distinction it looks the same as a toddler flailing around to me
To you. Because you're brown. It objectively doesn't.

>>76795406 (OP)
Ballerinas are entertainers.
Athletes are entertainers.

>>76795817
>game devs 2005 vs game devs 2025

>>76799944
>Because you're brown
Im from a nation famous for their ballet, I just don't care for it unless it's paired with other arts like theatre

>>76799949
ballerinas are artists, not entertainers.

>>76799183
Exactly the point

>>76797469
>>76797501
I could NOT fuck a girl with feet like this

>>76800130
the artist is the director and the choreographer
it's like with actors, actors are entertainers while the screenwriter and the director are artists

>>76800130
god what I'd do to throw a woman around like this

>>76800408
>god what I'd do to throw a woman around like this
then just do ballet? very easy answer

>>76800411
nigga you think that shits easy?

>>76798712
A lot of their husbands do

>>76800408
>>76800130
>>76800411
What lifts for this?

>>76800450
yeah you can easily do the throwing with a week to a month of training depending on how bad you are
you won't match the fluidity as that will come with time
>t. amateur ballet dancer
>>76800468
normal strength training with compound movements and practice by throwing her 2 hours a day

>>76800514
>and practice by throwing her 2 hours a day
What if I don't have a her to throw around?

>>76800514
are you really a ballet dancer? because you'd know that most of how easy they make that shit look is because of the strength of the ballerina and her ability to tighten her core, hold herself in positions and control her body weight, no bitch just going to the gym 5 days a week can do just that shit without flopping around and ruining it

>>76800519
you join an adult ballet class and practice with the women there

>>76800530
like here

>>76800530
i am and you can easily do that do inexperienced woman as well just won't look as good and fluid like i said
women are super easy to thrown around especially when they are skinny like most ballet dancers
>>76800538
anon... you as a men can 100% hold a woman in that position very easily
if the woman will hold herself in the way it's suppose to be is another thing

>>76800549
I'm not saying I couldn't hold a woman like that, I'm saying that the woman is the one making it look good by being strong enough to hold herself in the positions, a normal woman absolutely doesn't have that body strength to hold herself in the positions she's holding herself in to make it work

>>76795406 (OP)
Yes, and they are really good at being lifted.

>>76800530
>no bitch just going to the gym 5 days a week can do just that shit without flopping around and ruining it
Yoga 5 days a week would build sufficient core strength to do this at a basic level.

>>76795817
tranny, or just dyspraxia on the right?

>>76797343
Finally some good fucking content.

>>76800130
Fuck, you know that guy is fucking her right after class. All he needed to do was lift fleshy object.

>>76796174
Oh man you know what this needs is some urban influence to make it more modern

>>76797343
If you listen closely, you can hear someone's muffled screaming
>GRIFFFFIIITTTTHHHH

My old school mate's little sister was an up and coming ballerina and her heart stopped one day out the blue, dead before she hit the ground. She was ~19. I always wondered whether it was the ballerina training that did it.

They have to keep weight down but maintain strength and perform with a very high level of athleticism. Can't be good for the heart.

>>76801985
>her heart stopped one day out the blue, dead before she hit the ground. She was ~19
Vaxxed?

>>76798676
>shaved chest
>masculine

>>76802253
Hairiness is dimorphism, yes, but its gives you no tactical advantage, in fact shaved chest is more hydrodynamic. Women prefer right side but will settle for left side if they cant get what they want.

>>76797469
Horror for footfags (me)

>>76796174
Damn she’s amazing

>>76802314
>"uhm actually"
>posts the gayest twink ever

>>76802253
>muh hair = masculinity
Pretty much every MMA fighter shaves their chest and they'd heem you in an instant. What the fuck is that logic kek

>>76801985
F

>>76795817
>tv show/movie on the left
>the american remake of it on the right

>>76799149
>the highest rank dancers make something like 200-250K, not bad but that's not a lot in NYC
It's not bad money in the slightest, but like this >>76798756 anon said, it's one of the most competitive things on the planet. If you ever get to that level, you're already showered with attention and material possessions.
Also, from my experience: ballet practitioners, both men and women, are absolute psychos.

>>76803028
>Also, from my experience: ballet practitioners, both men and women, are absolute psychos.
story time

>>76800130
I wonder what that room smells like

>>76795406 (OP)
always thought the whole "elegant and graceful" thing was a meme with ballet but I kinda get it now

>>76800532
Or a kids ballet class if you're DYEL

>>76797320
source please, I beg you

>>76804580
shuuvayu on instagram

>>76798869
Nah. Those are small calves. They just look larger in proportion given that she has fairly small thighs. The only way to get big calves are to have good genes for calves and to lift heavy just like you would for quads. If volume did anything for calves, most of the people on this board would have big calves just from walking.

>>76799158
They are hopping around at odd angles, on parts of their feet that were never meant to bear substantial weight, bent up like a contortionist. They get joint issues from the lower back down, stress fractures, tendon issues, spondylolisthesis, impingements, etc.

>>76795406 (OP)
I don't see why they wouldn't be

>>76795681
mirin back
>>76797343
fujoshi dream man

>>76797343
This guy mogs me

>>76797343
what's stopping him from putting on a bra and calling himself a tranny

>>76795410
Weak bait

>>76798064
She's humoring you anon. Ballet dancers are professional actors. She can see you are filth and is taking the path least likely to make you sperg out.

>>76795461
Imagine…

>>76807292
being a ballerina takes legitimate physical skill, being a fat ugly bald moron lifting heavy objects in the gym does not.

>>76795692
5'4 and 3 inch penis.
KEKAROO

>>76807875
2 metres tall or around 6'7", cope gymlet

>>76797343
Please be in London.

>>76807928
Still has 3 inches, 4 maybe.
Literal suicide fuel, many tall fags have killed themselves because of this.

>>76808112
they wear something called a "dance belt", you're coping

>>76797266
>he thinks going to the gym three times per week and lifting 200lbs of metal 8-15 times is superior to a ballet chad lifting 90lbs women over his head all day, every day for hours and hours on end while doing squats and jumping exercises on top of hours and hours of cardion and running

99.9% of this board couldn't even get through one day of a ballet students life, let alone a pro

>>76795406 (OP)
no

>>76798733
Vulgar Masculinity is Noble Masculinity
Look at the file name.

>>76798869
Just walk/run on your toes like an autist and have any appreciable amount of mass

>>76795410
Wrong. The only reason why you are impressed with ballerinas is because you don't see them often. An ugly fat balding stongfat cunt lifting 6 plates or some shit required much more dedication then just being flexible.

Skinny ballet girl and jacked gym guy is literally the best combo of all time.

>>76795410
One has multiple use cases the other does not

>>76809272
>An ugly fat balding stongfat cunt lifting 6 plates or some shit required much more dedication then just being flexible
This shit doesn't just require flexibility you brainlet >>76800130
>>76796174
>>76795406 (OP)

>>76809303
Yeah let's see you do this fat ass

>>76809330
>doesn't just require
>just
I'm agreeing with you my man, there's a lot more to dancing than just being flexible is my whole point lel

>>76795410
anyone who's upset at this is not an athlete and likely has the coordination of a cyclopes walking through the woods at night

>>76809274
skinny girls are the best, agreed

>>76797343
>woodrailhard.jpg
no homo

>>76797343
holy

>>76798676
Who's that guy on the far right, middle way down? Very striking form

>>76795410
I'm ashamed to share a board with people who disagree with this

>>76810396
Roberto Bolle, same guy as >>76795681

>>76795410
I'm into feet and dated a ballerina once
the feet were so ugly and destroyed, that it ruined my fetish forever

>>76810523
Yeah if I dated a girl whose hobby/career required she have ugly and destroyed titties I'd be sad about it

>>76795410
I'm inclined to agree

>>76795410
/fit/lets malding over this objective truth because their whole identity revolves around thinking muscles give them respect when this is objectively the truth and the whole world knows it

kek