Flash will live /f/orevar

Flash hacking, restoration, archival and resurrection general

Moo! Hahahaha! Edition

ITT: We continue our attempts to convince the admin team to bring back /f/ from >>105354944

Status report on the revival project:

https://github.com/flash-computer/libswftag
https://github.com/flash-computer/swfcheck
Had to take a hiatus due to house moving, but I'm going to slowly pick up again, nothing new to report.

News:
>Gutsman's ass

General stuff:

Tools:
>players
ruffle.rs/downloads
archive.org/details/flashplayer32_0r0_363_win_sa
github.com/Grubsic/Adobe-Flash-Player-Debug-Downloads-Archive

>decompiler/disassemblers
github.com/jindrapetrik/jpexs-decompiler
sourceforge.net/projects/flasm/
github.com/CyberShadow/RABCDAsm

>misc
www.swftools.org/download.html
github.com/Arkq/swfpack

Resources:
>AVM2
https://web.archive.org/web/20201130032433/https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/devnet/pdf/avm2overview.pdf
https://jindrapetrik.github.io/as3_pcode_instructions.en.html

>Format spec:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210609225053/https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/devnet/pdf/swf-file-format-spec.pdf

>AVM1 overview
https://open-flash.github.io/documentation/avm1/

>Tags/Structs
http://www.m2osw.com/swf_tags

I have nothing to add other than to say godspeed and may whoever decided to kill /f/ have a big pointy stick shoved up his hoohah

Bring back /f/, Hiro and mods. It was the best part of 4chan.

even though swf is completely harmless to verify upon upload (just like verifying a jpg is a jpg and a pdf is a pdf is harmless), i doubt they will bring back /f/.
good job killing off one of the oldest part of the internet 4chan, just because your method of screenshotting PDF failed and even though you don't even screenshot swf files

>>105424620 (OP)
/f/ will be back. IT JUST HAS TO. Simple as.

>>105425050
I'm sure the amount of satanic karma and bad juju those fuckers are getting right now is making them have diarrheal nightmares. I don't know who would like to be deserving of that, bud they did. What can we do huh.
Some defective people are weird like that.
#bring/f/backyoubastards

Do we have any fallback to live out the 4/f/ experience™ if this project fails at all?

>>105429619
Don't worry, it won't fail. Success is guaranteed.

>>105424620 (OP)
>pic rel
what flash is this from?

>>105429619
all we can do is watch old YouTube videos of browsing /f/

>>105431520
can't believe i'm now the pleb watching conversions of flashes on youtube

Give /f/ back to us, mods.

>>105431520
>>105431664
swfchan is a thing you newfags

>>105430896
how-to-identify-mad-cow-disease.swf

>>105432888
thanks, and checked

bump

>>105432215
swfchan can die any day, small fish. 4chan is a long lasting internet institution, that's why Adobe focused on the flash board in this site. Next objective will be Newgrounds. Swfchan will be left for last, for "them"(Adobe) swfchan works as hope, a sedative, so people stay quiet till the last and final blow of the axe.

>>105434421
Newgrounds currently has a bigger footprint in flash culture than /f/ did when they closed it, your theory makes no sense. I hate adobe as much as the next /f/aggot but to think that /f/ was some bulwark against them that they needed to overcome is delusional. They're busy thinking of ways to charge people year-long subscriptions for colors and force them to pay double for backing out, they don't give a shit about the flash board on 4chan that got 12 posts a day by 4 people.
Take your pills and focus on trying to bring /f/ back.

>>105434612
i doubt the csuite of adobe and the higher ups of their divisions even know what flash is, unless someone happened to work in flash
its been forever in IT time scales

>>105434612
That's what I'm saying, Newgrounds always was the Flash site, and bending the knee to Adobe would mean breaking their own back. For 4chan is easier to throw away part of their legacy, flash culture is just part of it.
>>105434651
>i doubt the csuite of adobe and the higher ups of their divisions even know what flash is
It must have been some ghost or spirit that made the site with all the tools and resources for flash to be shut down just a year ago. huh.. Same GHO$T that made /f/ to get shot down now... Weird shit keeps happening, so strange. Surely it got nothing to do with one of the most evil companies out there, naaahhh

>>105434989
dude the mba higher ups doing random budget cuts on legacy shit they dont know or care about is an unfortunately normal shit
its not only flash, we are losing tons of knowledge that was in private firms, not only IT, also industrial, technological and scientific.

I give up on the backend. I kneel to webdev chads and accept that anything I make, will be magnitudes worse than what already exists.

I'll continue working on the library and I really apologize, it's something I have learnt now that I just cannot do, and languishing trying to do it is just not working out for me. I'm really sorry.

I will focus on trying to contact admins and I think it's time we organize a concentrated effort with a drawn out manifesto of our reasoning and our solutions to submit.

>>105435048
why dont you ask for help on /wdg/ ? >>105431828
maybe some of them are /f/ enjoyers or just nostalgic

>>105434651
>>105435036
https://animatearchive.neocities.org/?home
>A message to AnimateArchive users:
>Adobe has recently begun taking measures to shut down Animate Archive. While they are technically within their legal rights, this will have a devastating effect on our community. As of today, none of the links on the archive work.
That happened just recently a year ago aprox.
Yep, unknown ghosts and spirits are taking down any Flash related shit, nothing to do with SHITDOBE, no sir.
Fuck, this is all so disgusting.

>>105435535
that is corporate lawyers doing corporate lawyers shit, same bullshit like the benchy model problem in the 3d printing community a couple months ago, it is almost sure not something done on purpose but corpo salary lawyers protecting adobe IP whatever that is without checking what effects
it is a mindless machine and a soulless process, no process or intention, corporate legal bureaucracy is completely braindead.
get enough backlash of the community and public relationships bullshit and you could make some higher ups care to check it and stop the lawyers, that happened with the benchy model
or fight to make the intellectual property a retarded idea of the past, i would very prefer this one
shit now i wonder what stallman thinks about this crap, not the first time i ask him something

>>105435699
ooohh, so it was those damn lawyers all this time... I thought it was Bill Gates, the apple board of dirtbags, Mark and Jeff Bezos who were the ones behind the global corp evil ways. So it was their lawyers all along! oh shit, I feel so stupid now. I'm so sorry Bill, Marky, Jeff, I shouldn't have doubt you guys

>>105424620 (OP)
>ruffle.rs
shill

>>105435069
Maybe I will. Thank you anon.

>>105435893
of what?

>>105435872
those people are plain evil, but this is outside of their radar, they dont even care, which is the most retarded part of this. why would a billionaire care about flash that is barely used at all?
it is not that difficult to understand, this crap comes from middle management zealots in the lawyers departments, i suffered that in person
>>105436783
you are welcome anon, i cannot do shit myself, i am a nocoder, but i try to help or support in whatever i can

>>105437260
>why would a billionaire care about flash that is barely used at all?
When apple and microsoft PAID Adobe to cut their own dicks and throw it in the fire and never ever get that dick up again, it wasn't just any other agreement, it was THE agreement that would fund Adobe for the years to come. They are bound by contract to erase, seek and destroy Flash, as you said, it's a job left to the legal team. BUT IT IS a task assigned by the company. It's obvious by now.

>>105435535
>>105437429
As much as I cannot rule out some hidden Adobe involvement, this is on weak grounds because the Adobe legal team had grounds to go after the animate archive which hosted many software the Adobe still has complete rights to and the legal team has reasons to go after.

In contrast 4chan had no such software, and Adobe had largely waived all licensing for swf as a media format and the few avenues that did remain, their patents have almost all expired by 2025.

And more on that, we have a precedent. Adobe's legal team has consistently shown that they work like any other legal team, they just sue and serve notices. If they have taken that approach, as little trust there might be in the 4chan team, they would have no reason to hide it. A valid lawsuit would be a far more potent and reasonable justification of shutting down /f/ then whatever this is.

Unless you propose that they do it so subversively and just bribe the 4chan team with no leverage whatsoever, creating witnesses of coercion in the process and adding to their own legal liabilities, at which point, they might as well just be holding their family hostage and torturing all swf community devs as well, your theory does not hold water.

Swf is different, it's outside their control and they have no legal liability of it.

>>105437578
Well, then put the board back on line.

>>105438034
That's what we're trying to do here

>>105438113
It doesn't matter what you do, and how well you do it. You already lost from the start, when the "admins" in charge to make that decision already decided against it.. "For some reason"... So, let's put a reason in that "X" in the equation wich can't be resolved.
The admins took money from adobe, to shut down the board, and forget about it. That's the accusation, and right now is the only tool you have to make hem come out of their hole. they won't listen to logic and reason, they don't care about it. "For $ome rea$on". Well, the creation of the black myth behind the shut down of the Flash board is what must remain. Because there is no other explanation, and because it is an active accusation with the goal to at least provoke a reaction where won't be any as much as you beg and work your ass off in oceans of code lines. They need a big accusing finger looming on them to make them move their asses. Otherwise they won't. They already decided that.

>>105434421
I wasn't comparing swfchan to 4chan. I was comparing it to youtube. I never said that swfchan is a replacement for 4chan /f/. I just pointed out that it's retarded to watch flash conversions on youtube when swfchan exists.

>>105439262
>it's retarded to watch flash conversions on youtube when swfchan exists
i love being sexually harassed by porn ads so i can watch anime girl gifs with anon's favorite song playing

>>105439374
>being a /g/ user in 2025 without using uBlock Origin

>>105439552
Exactly. Fight the power!

Did you know that version 4 of the Oxford English Dictionary is a swf program?

>>105440848
I believe that

>>105441604
https://ia800305.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/12/items/oed-v4/OED.zip

>OED/OED.swf

>>105441719
Doesn't werk. Do we need the entire OED folder?

bump

bump

>>105445424
Don't give up

>>105440764
I can't tell who you're agreeing with

>>105440848
How old is that? What's the current version?

>>105448610
>I can't tell who you're agreeing with
I agree with using adblockers liks uBlock Origin. Fight the power like Adobe and advertisers!

>>105440848
desu there were many example of shit that shouldnt have been done in flash, that is probably one of them

>>105449442
uh you're LITERALLY working for adobe if you use swfchan's resources without giving any ad revenue back

>>105436783
Ok, /wdg/ is twice dead after requests now. I don't think we're getting help.

>>105451904
It's like the adobe schizo says, they don't want to help. They decided to kill the board without any remorse or care. It's over.

>>105451904
board is kinda slow lately, is not the only general that is usually healthy and now is dying
people are /out/ with the good weather touching grass? i fell like /g/ is not the kind of board that does that

>>105452641
I'm pretty sure /wdg/ isn't composed exclusively of 4chan staff. Who's the 'they' here?

zeeky boogie bump

>>105455292
let's play toss the pdf bomb!

>>105455855
yeah! weeee!

burp

>>105455855
Wait till you see those swf bombs!

bump

Adobe paid good money to kill /f/ it seems

>>105462779
Sadge

>>105455292
only problem with flash movies is that you can't tell how long they're going to be. i was so engrossed in the demented cartoon movie that i didn't hang up for the full 30 minutes
should have seen the look on my face when it said "i just wasted 30 minutes of your life" or thereabouts at the end of the movie realising i just wasted 30 minutes of my monthly hours

>>105464987
>The Demented Cartoon Movie
Be glad it had the courtesy to tell you that you wasted time, zoomers spend hours watching much less meaningful shit on tiktok and the only thing that stops them is the call of reality once or twice a day.

>>105465414
yea, at the time it felt like a pain, but only being able to use the internet for both a limited number of hours a month and also when nobody else was using the phone (which was /really/ not often because i had an older sister and my dad ran a business from home), but it did allow me to enjoy things besides the internet as a kid

>>105424620 (OP)
>>105432888
Holy shit. I had this buried in my memories somewhere.
Why do I remember the laughter so well?

>>105461236
They must not be allowed to win.

>>105468357
NEVER. The ones who sold /f/ for a few filthy coins, will be hunted, like dogs.

for dicewars ! for /f/!

>>105470031
We'll never give up

Bump

I used to animate in flash, its characteristics and limitations had a creative setup full of soul, that shit was dope
I'm a progremmer now (lels), but I sure miss some animation or even illustration in flash,

Surprised they're still running a banner for /f/.

>>105475265
that is what it gives me hope, that all of this is just lazyness, so op and others fixing the problem and giving a working solution would allow them to be lazy yet deliver

Regarding the effort to contact someone who could actually do something, is there a way to contact hiroshima directly? An email address or some way to at least call attention to what I'm sure he doesn't even realize is going on? His absenteeism is what allowed the entire situation to unfold in the first place, when the administration doesn't care the underlings have no reason to put in any effort to keep anything up.

>>105475705
i doubt you'll find out about his private email here, he'd get 4000 emails each day.
i hear 4chan has an IRC that is supposed to be the last possibility to communicate with any staff but i've never even tried finding it because i'm sure you're either silenced there or would get kicked if you type anything that could be interpreted as negative towards how the site is run.
at this point i wonder if hiroshimoot was ever even real. did CIA take over the site and hired hiroshimoot to act like the new owner? it's just strange, who buys 4chan and then end up doing zero tripfagging? april 1st is the only day of the year it feels like someone is running the site.

>>105475324
>>105475324
>>105475705
I promise that I'll make and post original flashes every day for a month if /f/ comes back. Make it happen.

>>105475705
>>105476244
I bet that if you give them a hint that you're from Adobe they will reply to you ASAP. Those greedy traitorous bastards. Their eyes will be rolling with $$$ symbols

where can I get the flash animation software

>>105477045
do you have a leash right now or do they let you roam free sometimes?

>>105477482
In the high seas

>>105477482
>adobe's final standalone flash player
https://web.archive.org/web/20220331041148/https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/32/flashplayer_32_sa.exe

>>105477814
I think he's talking about the actual creation tool. I lost the link with the CS6, but the old Macromedia Flash 8 is easy to find, though it works on Win7 only.

>>105478294
wonder if there's been a torrent with Adobe Creative Suite 6 on /t/ sometime. i think it's wild that 4chan keeps that board up while killing off /f/, considering that most of what's posted there isn't exactly legal to share it could theoretically cause a lot more trouble for 4chan than the server getting hacked (which would never happen due to hosting swf files anyway, just saying). but if they've gotten away with /t/ for almost 25 years I guess it's fine.

>>105480979
That's scary

adobe can't stop you from learning php

Bump

Looks like this general's dead, just empty bumps and no real discussion or effort.

>>105485762
Patience, my friend.

>>105486008
for what? We should atleast be emailing the admins or something.

>>105486556
They only answer to money, from Adobe. I don't know why you'all keep denying this reality corrupted by money.

>>105486676
Is this a demoralization campaign or what?

>>105483426
Kewl. Tell us more, anon.

>>105486802
>Tell us more, anon.
experimenting with writing an /f/ clone imageboard thing in php, pic is where i got in one evening
i guess i'm wondering if there'd be any demand for such a thing if i got it into a usable state for hosting publicly
though i think /f/'s problem isn't software but a lack of people willing to host, moderate and maintain it
if someone really wanted to host a new clone to kill all the other clones, they could already do it using some of the existing imageboard software, whichever one it was that had a plugin/option to make an /f/-like layout
whatever, i am learning new stuff writing it so it's not all for nothing

>>105487490
there already is at least one /f/ clone that looks almost exactly like /f/ but people don't want to go there.
https://img.heyuri.net/f/

>>105488316
they used to advertise that site on /f/ which makes me not want to use it on principle

>>105488366
>>105488316
That's an important thing actually. I only trust 4chan, that's why I want /f/ back on THIS site. I would not be uploading flashes on any other site.

>>105488316
>heyuri
Oh, man. I hope they bring /f/ back to 4chan...

Allow me for a moment to express my pity for 7chan's /fl/ash board, which didn't see any increase in activity after /f/ shut down.
They even have put in the effort to screenshot the uploaded swfs.

>>105486802
>Is this a demoralization campaign or what?
that skizo thinks this is a paid campaign from adobe, instead of laziness and incompetence of the 4chan admin

>>105490348
>>105486802
At this point it's obvious that the 4chan hacking was a false flag just to justify the shut down of /f/ and get those Adobe filthy bucks.
/f/ ended up being the only casualty out of that bullshit. Pretty convenient, just too obvious.

>>105490586
you are just a troll no?
at least you are bumping the thread

>>105490677
He's just a salty Shockwave representative, ignore him.

>>105490883
>>105490677
All facts. I'm not lying. The only thing that the "big hack" left us was the shut down of /f/. The most harmless, polite and unnoticeable board in the whole site. Without giving any reason or explanation, and cutting all communications with the community. What do you make out of that behavior? Are you all that naive? They got money for that, they finally collect it after years and years of Adobe's mails, they caved in, "it was time already", and they are remorseful for that, and ashamed, not ashamed enough though. They don't want to look at you, or read anything you say. If you don't confront them with that truth, you will never ever get an answer from them. All what they want is you to stop bothering with the "/f/ thing", they want you to forget and to "move on". They want /f/ DELETED FROM EXISTENCE ITSELF. So it's not a "problem" anymore. That's what money buys, that kind of sick shit is what money makes you do, and they will find out some day, when they look back to what they did.

>>105490059
I remember this. I wish /f/ could be up to enjoy it again. It was 4chan's highest art form.

this thread sux

>>105493622
tru dat

come back

>>105492961
memories, nothing more than memories

https://youtu.be/CskCOSYoNaw?t=439
found this by chance and clicked it due to the thumbnail...
>here's one many people are glad faded into oblivion
>spoken in clueless mainstream woman voice

anyone know to decompile old macromedia(3?) games?
pic related

>>105496028
>DXR is Protected Macromedia Director Movie file type.
i didn't even remember it existed

>>105488870
This
There's just something about /f/ that made it unique here, even if the content is mostly the same in other places there's something about the anons here, the way the board worked and was layed out, the themed days that just can't be replicated somewhere else.

I for one support fchan
-the site is just the /f/ board and identical to it with just 30 slots

never forget

>>105500551
never forgive

>Flash, will not be returning however, as there is no realistic way to prevent similar exploits using .swf files.
the fuck does this even mean
what did /f/ do to swf files that cause such a fizzy?
did it even create thumbnails or anything? verify the contents of a the format?

>>105501562
No, 4chan team likely just realized during the process that they don't want to maintain /f/ specific code base while updating everything else so they just used "muh deprecated vulnerabilities" as an excuse to can it.

>>105488366
This, their proselytizing nature is a reflection of their generally obnoxious nature.

>>105442925
Sorry, the main link:
https://archive.org/details/oed-v4

>>105501655
Have they even restored the ability to upload pdfs to the few boards that use them? I would wager the anon teaching himself php and the other one checking swf tags have made more progress in what they're doing.

>>105503331
Haven't checked but I think not.
Haven't seen a pdf on /sci/ for a while

>>105503331
Also, the development on the swf tag GitHub has become cold after the ready for use announcement.

>>105499745
add more slots

>>105505088
This. 99 slots.

>>105506911
99 NAKED MEN

>>105508317
100 NAKED MEN

Bump

>>105503331
I'm telling y'all, it's all bullshit, the "security" excuse. THE SAME bullshit excuse they used to kill flash years ago. They are using it now here, again. So lame, so pathetic. Adobe is like cancer, and weak greedy scumbags are the perfect enablers of that cancer.

Is this how /f/ will die? with a whimper?...
This is so unfair. Who the fuck decided this? What the fuck is going on here?

>>105495671
Adobe+Apple+Microsoft made a crazy global campaign promoting the end of flash. Just like the Y2K bullshit and the covid scare.

>>105505088
If the expiry period remains, I agree. Also the board would need to be scraped by swfchan.

>>105514124
>Also the board would need to be scraped by swfchan.
so they can make money serving the same content with porn ads and captchas to download?
for actual meaningful preservation there's archive.org

How are you supposed to decode raw AMF data in ColdFusion?

Yes, this is relevant to Flash

>>105514745
>still not using an adblocker
Granted, it's very distasteful in principle as well but it's a non issue from a usability standpoint given that none of them bypass adblockers. And certainly not something worth tossing aside the ability for new stuff to be consolidated with the largest flash archive around, with good metadata organization for searching. One of /f/'s biggest purposes, was that it was one of the few places people still posted NEW flash content, and that content is only archived on random anons drives or swfchan. Most people who post OC aren't going to mirror it on archive and even supposing they did, how do you suppose they guarantee others being able to reliably find it? Also, if swfchan were gone /f/ and any offshoot of such truly is dead, cause afaik on else is presently mirroring it.
Similarly, the larger and more pertinent complaint with swfchan is that the admin has yet to organize it in a manner for bulk downloading, if such were the case this would all be much less of a problem from a consumption standpoint, I would simply be sifting through it right now. Unfortunately, it seems he has little intent of doing so, a few anons have asked since /f/ died to no reply. It would be more expedient to set up some scraping project similar to Archiveteam..

>>105514819
Cold fusion is a shit, but didn't it have internal functions to parse SOAP and AMF iirc?

>>105514914
>Most people who post OC aren't going to mirror it on archive and even supposing they did, how do you suppose they guarantee others being able to reliably find it?
i was thinking the board owner would be the one periodically uploading to archive.org like 4plebs currently does
for discoverability: if the data is free, then people are free to build frontends to browse it like https://github.com/necroflasher/dbtest_php
>Similarly, the larger and more pertinent complaint with swfchan is that the admin has yet to organize it in a manner for bulk downloading [...]
that's basically my issue with the site
he's doing *something* to preserve flashes, but it's like he stops where there's any risk that people could make his site obsolete by building a replacement
maybe he has some emotional attachment to being the only one with the #1 flash collection and doesn't want to lose that, or maybe the porn ads just pay that well
as it is, i see the site as a frontend to browsing his private collection that could disappear at any moment because there's no independent backup of it

>>105513658
http://swfchan.com/flash_and_the_future1.png
http://swfchan.com/flash_and_the_future2.png
http://swfchan.com/flash_and_the_future3.png
http://swfchan.com/flash_and_the_future4.png
http://swfchan.com/flash_and_the_future5.png
http://swfchan.com/flash_and_the_future6.png
http://swfchan.com/flash_and_the_future7.png

virus don't click

>https://github.com/necroflasher/fchan

>>105515051
Does it? I've been spending all night digging into something that seemed like it would work, but nothing jumped out at me.

Maybe my approach is all wrong, because what I'm doing is using some proxy magic have the URL the Flash taps into for gateway calls point to a custom CFM file, then pass the raw request data to the real gateway, pass the response from that back to Flash while also writing the response to a file.

Said file is still just raw AMF data for now.

The initial plan was to use the real Flash gateway on my local environment to connect to local CFCs that would talk to the real CFCs online, but that hasn't been working out. I suspect the real server has measures in place to prevent external connections directly to the CFCs, but at least connecting to their gateway works

Maybe I should set up a custom gateway or something?

>>105515051
>>105516856
I'm running CF2018 if that matters, even though it most likely isn't matching what the real server uses

>>105514124
>>105514745
Flash history must be preserved for posterity

>>105520155
Hopefully 4chan will do its part reinstating /f/

/f/ will never die, just accept it already. Put the board back on faggots. I know you're there, hiding behind your stack of Adobe money

>>105491781
you are a newfag. it wasn't even 2 months ago when the website was hacked and knocked down for 2 weeks because of their pdf implementation. admins are scared of potential other attack vectors. right now they are probably analyzing the swf implementation and will put it back up when they aren't still shitting their pants in anxiety

>>105522313
BULLSHIT. The reason for the hacking was written all over the place, the site has been neglected for a decade. The way they approached the /f/ board situation was cold and brutal. "It's not coming back, period". When they knew already that "SWFs" got nothing to do with the hacking at all.
They are just playing the normie card full on because they don't know any better, "Flash=security danger!", two decades later, when everyone knows by now that was all bullshit. Pathetic. The absolute state of this site.

What needs to happen for /f/ to come back?

>>105522122
Yes, put the board back on where it rightfully belongs

>>105525113
That's all we want.

I heard somewhere that /f/ went active yesterday, but I just checked and it's not active yet, wtf

So this is going to be the last Flash thread, isn't?
In case it is, good bye /f/rens, be well and take care. Good bye...

>>105529186
nah we will persist, como back here, something one way or another will be done

>>105523333
>"Flash=security danger!",
To be fair, this is reasonable and true, just like "PDF=security danger!"
I'm glad they try to steer on the safe side with flash, though with how quickly they brought the site back up, I feel like another hack is imminent.

>>>/wsg/5892649

NOT DEAD YET

I don't get what's the goal of this software.

If the server used the software made here, it would become vulnerable to god knows how many attacks because it tries to process attacker controlled files in a very bad way, whereas before there was no risk because the files weren't analyzed at all.

>>105532964
>very bad way
elaborate

And the problem is that we're all saying status quo is best, but nobody's having it. This is supposed to prevent the pdf style exploit the admins fear by not allowing fske swf files, because you only need to fake the signature, and since there are no real boundations on what version or size you report and every byte combination will be valid rect, frame count and frame rate values, you just need to have FWS in the beginning of the file and practically anything will get through. This prevents that.

>>105533593
>And the problem is that we're all saying status quo is best, but nobody's having it. This is supposed to prevent the pdf style exploit the admins fear by not allowing fske swf files, because you only need to fake the signature, and since there are no real boundations on what version or size you report and every byte combination will be valid rect, frame count and frame rate values, you just need to have FWS in the beginning of the file and practically anything will get through. This prevents that.
I don't care, this is all meaningless if there is any buffer overflow, or integer overflow, use after free, etc.. in your code.
Just giving one look at it, it's obvious that you don't give 2 shit about correctness or any of the above and over complexify everything.

>>105534569
Interdasting

>>105531184
4chan doesn't do any sort of processing to .swf files like how they thumbnailed pdfs. In that case .swf files can only be a security danger to the client.

>>105534939
>4chan doesn't do any sort of processing to .swf files
this thread needs a faq page

>>105533700
>buffer overflow
There's bounds checks before every access.

>integer overflow
There are custom macros and checks in place to ensure there are none in cases where it's critical that there are none even for unsigned integers, and all integers used by the library (besides swf_tag.tag) are unsigned so there's no risk of signed integer overflow, and signed operations are implemented at a high level for 2s complement arithmetic, so that there's no risk of UB.

>use after free
Any variable that can be reassigned is freed with S_FREE macro, which also sets the pointer to null.

And most other pointers are accessed only through linked lists which are destroyed and thus become inaccessible when the pointers are freed.

I understand that you're skeptical but please do read the codebase.

>you don't give 2 shit about correctness
I do, I've read the N1256 draft thoroughly to be as correct as possible with any compiler.

>over complexify everything
Please elaborate on this as well

>>105535123
>Any variable that can be reassigned is freed with S_FREE macro
Just to be clear on this, there are still man that are not. You may have a point in that I'm still using my judgement onto what should and what should not be reassigned to NULL.

For example, many frees are called just before a return where a variable goes out of scope, and for that I just use simple frees.

>>105424620 (OP)
No link to Bluemaxima's Flashpoint archive? Surely that's the main community that could help here

>>105424620 (OP)
I can hear this image

>>105536272
Well there's no link to any community there at all, just tools and resources for flash hacking, rather thanwhere to find swfs.

>>105536348
My point is you should just basically migrate to Flashpoint archive discord where hundreds are active in archiving flash content

>>105536449
so fuck off from public view? how much are you paying?

>>105536449
Not sure how migrating to discord is a solution to an anonymous imageboard going down.

Was there still work being done here?

>>105537827
OP here. I'm just lurking for the moment and working on unrelated projects because for now the library is sufficiently mature for what it needs to do in the context of the general.

D-anon is making fchan
https://github.com/necroflasher/fchan

That's all I'm aware of for now.

>>105536449
>just go to Discord
Without going into detail on how horrible that platform is, it misses the point of this entire thing. /f/ was never just about Flash, it was about the community and culture formed around it and you can't get that anywhere else.

Never give up /f/rens!

bump

>>105516648
hikari3's flash boards front end was the one that looked most similar to /f/ so https://github.com/syrno9/HikariLynx may be useful for such, in case the leak itself doen't provide an easy-to-copy base. Granted, I'm not fully certain that archived repo is such. It should be given; https://web.archive.org/web/20250422210951/https://hikari3.ch/f/ is around the time of archival, but the current address (http://104.156.245.188/f/) is not the same.

Never retreat, never surrender

>>105543003
A proprietary leak is not sound legal ground to start a project upon.

GUTEN MORGEN! NO MORE SNORIN!

>>105536341
i think OP's screenshot is from a video version rather than the original flash where the cow image bounces around in a circle

>>105547745
I have both swfs, but I like the flv one more.

bump

>>105496028
still looking for help with this

>>105549561
Not familiar with them but I do want to look into it to see if I can help. Can you share a link to any such game?

>>105550080
this one is lot smaller, and has same file extensions so it most likely also uses macromedia thing
https://www.bonzibuddy.eu/pelit/MASAMAINIO_autoja.iso
or
https://www.bonzibuddy.eu/pelit/Viiru%20ja%20Pesonen%203%20%C3%96t%C3%B6kk%C3%A4jahdissa.iso
for the one im trying to decompile

>>105550864
oh and below one installs and works on w10, smaller one is older and does not install, its probs 16/32bit

/f/ will be back, in my heart I know it. I'm never wrong about this things.

Is /f/ still down?

What can total retards do to help? I can't code, I can't do nothing else other than re-post fave flashes in the /f/ board...

/f/ will be back after these announcements..

>>105554441
Yes, stuck under perpetual maintenance

>>105550864
>https://www.bonzibuddy.eu/pelit/MASAMAINIO_autoja.iso
this guy ported the swedish(homo) version of that to javascript, maybe try asking him how he ripped the assets
http://mulle.dongers.net/
https://github.com/MrBrax/mulle.js
you can get his email from the commit log
https://github.com/MrBrax/mulle.js/commit/b1e75ee1647d8042760cc0d169c3b45515f9f837.patch

>>105537913
Why don't you just host a patched and stripped yotsuba with only board being /f/? Then you could do a seamless redirects to /f/ onto the site from thread watcher and such

>>105559107
Actually I guess I'll just do that myself if the new flash lib is mature enough

>>105559107
>Then you could do a seamless redirects to /f/ onto the site from thread watcher and such
i don't understand
redirect what, from which site to which?
>patched and stripped yotsuba
illegal and terrible code

>>105559163
.... from 4chan to the 4chanWithFlash. you could have the userscript keep all your styling prefs + whatever you had configured in xt or whatever
>illegal
I'M BEHIND SEVEN PROXIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>105559173
do you mean having the 4chan-x thread watcher update threads from fchan while you browse other sites? that might actually be useful but probably requires implementing some standard looking api for fetching posts

a user is browsing a website
a redirect happens, but involving what and what is the outcome of that redirect

>>105559215
>>105559228
are you fucking retarded
you'd have an userscript that adds /f/ back to the board list. that would navigate to fchan. but it would be seamless as you would keep stuff like your applied style, your customizations in 4chan-x because it shares the same code. if you'd add a thread to the watcher on f you'd also see it on regular 4chan and vice versa

>>105559107
That would require 4chan XT to support fchan I think., besides the redirect userscript.

It will probably be a mod as simple as adding it to the match filters plus 1 loc to say that it has the same api/html layout as 4chan, but it'd still require either the site to be supported upstream by the XT devs, or shipping a modified version of the X/XT with the redirect userscript to be easily available.

But again, like the other anon said, reusing yotsuba is illegal.

>>105559150
What lib?

To anyone saying that using 4chan code is illegal, I'll remind you that the code was confirmed and that there have been no takedown requests of the code anywhere. Noone will get in trouble for using it.

>>105560922
why copy some crappy code someone else wrote when you can do it properly yourself

Guys, before I dive into researching this shit on my own, I'll see if you can give me an answer to this: how the fuck can I play an .fla file, without using Adobe Animate? I just unburied some clips I made around 2006-2007 and don't have a way of playing them, only the .swf ones (with the 'flashplayer' package on Arch).

>>105560922
No takedown requests means what it does on the tin. They can still come on you ass anytime and it is silly to leave the fate of this alternative in the hands of the admins that killed it.

>>105561040
Pirate Flash 8 or CS5 and compile it

>>105561051
>Pirate Flash 8 or CS5 and compile it
Yeah, I know I can do this, but I don't want to dig around virus-infested sites until I find it. There's no native way to do it?

>>105561063
Unfortunately not. Try if there's any third party development platform still hosting their own software that develops for flash and is interoperable with the fla. Or just bite the bullet and get CS6, it has a fairly active torrent:

https://files.catbox.moe/e9hpnv.torrent

>>105561107
Thank you. I'll use CS6.

>>105561040
>Arch
i wrote a little guide to getting cs6 installed on linux a while ago: https://files.catbox.moe/8g464h.txt
it includes the torrent i used

Thanks anons!

>>105560922
That's one way to contract t. gondii

>>105564121
I don't understand

A good flash game is flatcheez, good game.

>>105561171
Thanks, I already sorted it out myself, but there are interesting tidbits in your guide.

>>105565124
None of us were meant to

Bump

>>105565124

I just installed Flash 5. Gonna make a basic game. Is it good enough?

>>105568175
And that's what happens when you snort cats

To the anon that made libswftag and swfcheck, are you still doing something, or have you ghosted us?

>>105568309
it was the best at the time

>>105570528
he posted here --> >>105537913

I just checked, /f/ is still down.

>>105571840
Thanks doc

Still no chance that /f/ will come back?

>>105573273

>>105570528
Still here, mostly just lurking.
Development on libswftag is paused for now because as far as my aim for it regarding /f/ goes, it's functionally already there. For the hobbyist "automation" part, I figure I can take time off it to do something else in the meanwhile.

I should maybe prepare talking points and a nice pdf(lol) or something, containing all the facts about swfs and security maybe, but still just thinking about it.

>>105573273
nobody is talking with 4chan's staff because they don't want to be talked with. i'm sure someone from the staff has seen one of these threads but are ignoring it. because that's how 4chan is today: no communication and no care about what users want. i'm not trying to be cute, it's just what i've observed.

It's dead, jim

>>105574789
No, it just can't be

>>105574625
This is the stone cold truth, it honestly baffles me why they put in any effort to bring it back when they clearly don't use it or give a fuck about the people who do.

>>105485762
Just like flash

>>105577632
Take that back

BREAKING NEWS:
>/f/ is still down

>>105578801
Mods, make good news for once

>you will never cause a heap of trouble with other naked men ever again
>you will never get the wrong door two blocks up ever again
>you will never receive and administer daily doses ever again
>you will never play the game ever again
>you will never ask where the hood is ever again
>you will never hear Xenon's crispy angelic voice ever again
>you will never party hard ever again
>you will never go to the Bourbon House ever again
>you will never sing CAN WE BRING ever again
>you will never pull boats for a Chinese trumpet player ever again
>you will never go on an epic road trip ever again
>you will never wait a month ever again
>you will never see a German soldier infiltrate an enemy base ever again
>you will never see the world's best dancer ever again
>you will never watch Saturday night yuri ever again
>you will never guess that it's a white hole ever again
>you will never have deep philosophical discussions with the wisest people on the planet ever again
>you will never marvel at the creativity of new original flashes ever again

What's the point in living anymore? What's keeping you going?

>>105581672
it's just a toll booth, it's taking a bit longer due to road works up ahead, that's all.

>>105581672
i lose

>>105581672
>What's keeping you going?
HOPE

I'm predicting the return of /f/ before this year is over.

Any updates?

Sim day saturday here we go!

/f/ is dead isn't?

>>105588855
Nah, sure new life will be breathed into it

>>105586120
on what
fchan (the codebase) would be about ready for public testing now but i remembered it needs someone to host it (money + what vps provider wants a 4chan clone)

>>105590896
Thanks anon for your work. Much appreciated.

Oh no, you're not bumping off

>>105593810
Someone will make a new one, don't be like that.

>>105594069
Keeping the hope alive is the LEAST we can do. Do not worry.

>>105594208
The hope will stay alive from someone working on something or more communication with 4chan.

>>105593810
Thanks anon.
The heroic silent bumpers will be the unsung heroes of these dark times. Hopefully, soon, this will seem like a bad dream, and we all laugh about it. God willing.

>>105594497
I'm still hoping

/f/ will be back, I feel it in my heart.

Any good news?

If the Doc is here, I need my Daily Dose...

>>105599712
That's gonna cost you.. the good stuff is in short supply these days

>>105593810
funny pic

>>105590896
With the expected traffic and how rotation period, you really can only check up on it every 12 hours and it'll be fine.

I hope to have good news soon =)

>>105476501
Now we have to get /f/ back

>>105605149
I'll keep my promise, I promise.

Can't let you go /f/, not yet.

>>105607663
Never let go

>>105602907
the issue is, i don't want it to be vulnerable to pranksters getting the site deleted by reporting it to the host
i don't actually know how much of an issue this is in practice

bump

>>105610117
Just don't buy and host it on a hostname first. We are all perfectly capable of just copy pasting your port forwarded IP address in your browser and your phone could probably host the site on a mobile connection.

>>105613403
>hostname
Domain name, I mean

/f/ one last dance please

>>105613403
so this way they could get my home internet deleted instead of just the site?
how about you do it and give me ssh access

/f/ what's taking you so long?

Bump

>>105615676
I would if I knew how to. You have no documentation.

Today could be the day...

>>105610117
excuse me for not following these threads closely so not knowing who you are or what you're hosting, but if you want to host something quickly and easily with no cost or risk, have you considered an onion service?
basically, it's a "website" specifically for tor. the downside is of course it can only be viewed from a browser that supports tor, but it's completely free, easy to set up, and doesn't so much as reveal the public ip of the machine you run it on, and you can run it on /anything/ (that can run a tor daemon)
it limits who can access it, but it is the quickest, cheapest, and safest way to host a service on a fixed "domain"

I heard good things about /f/ coming back, that gives me hope.

two more weeks

>>105623543
Hopefully

>>105424620 (OP)
hey, are you looking at my BALLS?!

>>105626457
>You're looking at my balls and for this I will kill you.
Never, never look at a gypsy's balls.

I know there's still hope, we just have to hang in there

>>105623446
Where have you heard such things?

Is swfchan down or is it just me?

>>105630899
It's down, they've announced planned maintenance downtime last week

>>105630899
So, adobe schizo was right all along?

>>105631519
Obviously

>>105427111
>>105424620 (OP)
Hang on there was a flash board? Were you allowed to just upload executable artifacts like that?

That sounds wild!

>>105633017
Yap, an executable program of 10MB full of mp3 music, videos, images and whatever random crap.. Beautiful beyond belief, we didn't know what we had, now it's too late for tears

>>105634004
What the hell. I guess it's not any more crazy than how we used to upload homebrew programs to forums. In fact since it's sandboxed it's probably less crazy.

It's still wild to imagine. I'm kind of bumbed I missed out now.

>>105634032
Yeah, I always thought about how it was even possible to be allowed for us to build our own flashes and upload them just like that. We obviously want that back, but I can totally see them admins saying..
>"Yeah, well, uhhh.. NO WAY IN HELL"

>>105634032
Reading your post made me grateful that at least I got to experience /f/. Sure, it was in it's last years and it didn't get much posts, but a lot of cool stuff was still posted. I'm too young to have experienced /b/ when cool stuff was posted there, and I am bummed out by that, but at least I got to experience /f/, so now I know how it feels for something good to be dead whether I knew it back when it was alive or not. In a way, this gives me a form of closure even though /f/'s death was unannounced and we didn't get the possibility of making goodbye threads. The fact that I was able to experience /f/ makes me think that perhaps I'm not quite that young in the large scheme of things considering that all the people that are younger than me and all those that will be born will never get the possibility to experience something like this.

>>105634761
It was a criminally underrated board (for the potential it had), but maybe it was better that way so it could remain under the radar and undisturbed until now.

>"Performing site maintenance. Try again in a little while."
>"Try again in a little while."
>"a little while"
Perversity beyond belief

>>105628627
admins are covering her eyes and ears with stacks of Adobe money. They won't hear ya' my friend

>>105631506
How long is it supposed to last?

>>105637545
>her
Who are you talking about?

>>105637994
From what I remember, they didn't say. But they said that it was this week, so it should be over by next week.

>>105610117
It's an issue of a couple of dollars switching to a new host.

>>105639180
>Who are you talking about?
Yep, now you know.

/f/ will be back, and I'll be ready

Time to say good bye, I guess..

Still down.

Any good news?

Any reasons why Javascript or wasm browser games never picked up like flash did?

Is there just not as good as engine and resources to make them?

>>105647671
Flash was extremely easy to produce. Still is in comparison with other media creation tools.

>>105647671
what made flash great was the authoring software. anybody could slap together an animation in minutes
for an alternative technical platform like js/wasm to take off like flash did it would need good easy to use authoring software. as it is right now ironically the best option is to use flash's authoring tools and run the result using an emulator like ruffle

>>105634761
True words.

Flash on

>>105488316
Cool

>>105648594
Amen. That's my problem with this "end of flash" situation, if there could be a tool to convert AS2 flash into html5, then I wouldn't care too much about any of this sad ending.

Hope is the last thing to lose, just gotta keep the faith

We need /f/ back, or else...