I just learned that Mozilla is apparently a feminist LGBTQUIA+ "climate justice" activist group now, rather than a tech company, and they have scrubbed their source code from things like "we will never sell your data" and have tried to change their Terms of Use to include "we can do whatever we want with your data".

Learned this from multiple videos on this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@Lunduke/search?query=mozilla

I've been using Firefox for over 15 years now and don't know what to do, is LibreWolf the fork to switch to?

>Starting this thread in hopes of recommendations of what to switch to. Or discussions on whether or not Mozilla is as bad as they seem to be now. The possible 80% reduction in money from losing Google sponsorship could be making them desperate?
>I really don't want a Chromium based browser because I want there to be a life boat in case Alphabet goes too far. Which they have already started to do with the uBlock Origin limitations.

Try Pale moon.

>>105554236
Good for flash support but I need something that can render web pages created by zoomers.

God damn it, LibreWolf is also ran by political activists:

>Firefox Fork LlibreWolf Declares Self "Very Woke", Goes on Rant about "Far-Right", Bans "Lunduke"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyjiOBWH91s
Seriously, what the fuck is going on? Recommendations please...

https://archive.ph/OtZxF
>This session invites participants to co-create a feminist AI alliance for climate justice, focusing on Zambia as a regional hub. We will explore how AI technologies can be utilised to help foster ecological resilience while considering power imbalances and historical injustices. Using feminist, decolonial, and regenerative approaches, we aim to envision what such an alliance could look like that supports community-rooted AI technology, centring marginalized communities, particularly women, LGBTQIA+ individuals, and Indigenous groups disproportionately affected by climate change.
What the actual fuck man.

>>105554265
I also have chromium installed for that but rarely need to use it. Pale Moon incompatibility is exaggerated.

>>105554346
At this point I'd rather take the furry guy's browser over whatever mozilla has become... The guy behind it is a furry right? Wasn't there some internal turmoil a couple of years ago in Pale Moon?

>>105554384
Yeah he's an autistic furry. idk or care about the drama that happened years ago.

>>105554346
>Pale Moon incompatibility is exaggerated.
can it run discord.com without problem?
might use the browser as my chat client if that's possible.

>>105554220 (OP)
>recommendations
I don't know man... Waterfox maybe? They've gone independent again.
But seriously, every day I notice that the Gecko engine is struggling more and more with webpages. It's harder to recommend Gecko based browsers anymore. Specially if you want stuff to "just work". Chromium seems to have won.
I've been trying other browsers and so far my two options are Edge (because it comes already installed in Windows, stil supports mv2 uBO, performance is good for the most part which I'm a junky for) and Brave (the native Adblocker is amazing if you set it to 'aggresive' and has lots of optional extra filters included that make browsing a lot less annoying, and comparing it to other browsers I've tested it seems the least annoying to work with). Both browsers are bloated to hell and back but you can take a couple minutes to disable the junk in both. Overall I feel like Brave is the better of the two but I don't like having two chromiums in the same machine. I guess if Microsoft pushes mv3 too then I'll fully switch from Edge, also their new UI is full of rounded cancer.
I don't want to talk more abour Brave because anons will go "hurr durr shill".
Idk I accept more recommendations too.
Already tried:
Gecko> Firefox, Waterfox, Zen, Librewolf, Mulvad, Firefox ESR, Pale Moon.
Chromium: Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, UG Chromium, Opera (all variants).

>>105554220 (OP)
I'm just not sure why everyone keeps repeating this retarded shit take that has no logical consistency. Let's look over some things.

>Gecko is foss
>Chromium is foss

Ok, great.

>Mozilla sucks
>Google sucks

Ok, great.

Then why are we shilling and worshipping gecko-based foss forks, and pissing our pants about chromium-based foss forks being bad? What's the difference? Chromium is faster, more widely used, has better security, has more add-ons/extensions, and is just as capable of blocking ads as shown by extensions like AdGuard or browsers like Brave.

>>105554535
idk I don't use pisscord. You should use the desktop app (or Armcord) anyway.

>>105554506
meant for >>105554647

Wasn't a mozilla CEO caught donating to an anti-gay marriage bill?

>>105554647
>You should use the desktop app
>unironically recommending any company's election spyware over a sandboxed browser equivalent

>>105554762
electron

>>105554647
i'd never let discord touch my system as a native program, if i run it in a browser it at least can't scan my running processes

>>105554665
not sure if founder is the same as being the CEO but yeah, and he was kicked out for it and started Brave (he started Brave right?).
i don't think it was very brave to use chromium

>>105554535
I don't trust Waterfox, was disappointed by the change in direction before.
Maybe Mullvad Browser, can it be used without any VPN stuff? I know the KiwiFarms admin uses Mullvad as VPN and that gives me some brand confidence.

>>105554565
like i said it's about having a lifeboat. the likeliness of Chromium turning to utter shit is greatly increased if there is no other alternative.
think 10 years of browser advances without an alternative, why would they not do whatever they want? the chances of someone successfully building a lifeboat on a sinking ship tat everybody will jump on is close to zero.

>>105554957
makes no sense, for the love of god man at least just use logic

>if chromium is foss, and it starts going to shit, people will fork away and make a chromium that's not going to shit

>there's no logical reason why it's harder to maintain a chromium fork in comparison to a gecko fork, in fact it's easier because chromium has a massive succesful company doing most of the hard work while gecko is backed by a dying company that relies on the evil succesful company to give it money

investing in gecko engine is a literal waste of time, nobody has the resources to actually develop it, once mozilla dies, and they will especially if google loses chrome and they lose the google deal, then it's over. there's not a single organization who can fund it's development and make money or think its a wise investment. the sane approach is to give up on gecko and just make a proper chromium fork that keeps upstream but strips the cancer out, like ungoogled chromium

>>105554910
>i'd never let discord touch my system as a native program, if i run it in a browser it at least can't scan my running processes
i think a reason it gets a lot of hate is people assume everyone is downloading the standalone electron program to run it which as you say gives it access to your entire system at all times "so it can display" those stupid little "im playing anime jerk off 3"
but i have never installed it, i personally tell people to never install it, and it's just sandboxed in the browser. it's completely harmless when you use it that way, like any other website that has private messaging.

be more subtle lunduke

>>105554973
so what you're claiming is that there's plenty of chromium forks out there that doesn't have the addon limitations that causes uBlock Origin to be limited?
because if that's not the case then "and it starts going to shit, people will fork away" is already proven to not be true (just something that *could* happen, in theory)

>>105555158
Yes, Edge supports MV2 uBO and so does Brave. And there's no reason to believe in the future they'll have to accept MV3 and not be able to continue maintaining MV2.

>>105555169
10 years of piling things on top of previous changes will really test their willpower of "going their own way". Over time it'll only be harder and harder to resist what Alphabet has decided, especially if you're stuck with only few total users compared to those just using Chrome.

>>105555198
Better compared to using gecko that's 10 years behind chromium and has to copy paste and integrate all chromium decisions into their own engine if they want to remain compatible with websites. It's just a matter of efficiency, maintaining chromium is difficult, maintaining gecko is impossible you have to develop it and nobody has a reason to do that.

>>105554220 (OP)
>have tried to change their Terms of Use to include "we can do whatever we want with your data"
Yeah. Mozilla is pozzed.
https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459add

>>105554298
>what the fuck is going on
CIA employs 1984 satan gay fags to cockblock you from having a normal life and instead you must get back to work before the rocket bombs start falling

>>105555169
>there's no reason to believe in the future they'll have to accept MV3 and not be able to continue maintaining MV2.
except for the fact that they've explicitly said this? Brendan eich is on the record

>>105554220 (OP)
Reminder that you can use the extension called BlockTube to block Luncuck's retarded spam channel even when not logged in.

>>105554220 (OP)
they dun goofed

>>105555466
Explain this shit here: https://archive.ph/OtZxF
Lunduke is a spastic tard but sometimes reality oversteps fiction. Mozilla is wasting money on HR harpies new age crystals bullshit, developing a web browser isn't in their priority anymore.

>>105554506
>shitcord
nonfree malware
https://www.stallman.org/discord.html

>>105554220 (OP)
who gives a shit
firefox still works the best
go suck off another closeted homo at your local gloryhole if it bugs you so much

>>105556170
>t. feminist faggot

Firefox is literally financed by Google to avoid anti trust lawsuits. Without Google, it would have been dead years ago already.

>>105556252
Google's been told it can't do that any more, slowpoke.

>>105554220 (OP)
>>105554298
>Seriously, what the fuck is going on?
What’s going on is that you keep shilling your idiot blog every fucking day and killing REAL threads instead of buying a damn ad. Stop killing technology threads just for culture war bullshit only terminally online incels give a shit about.

>>105556595
>muh ur r a incel
(You) are a faggot

>>105555387
Uh, the page shows for a second for me and then I get this. Tried 10 times.

>>105555466
>nothing to see here people, Lunduke is just a "retard" even though he shows receipts for everything he talks about
you don't like his style? gonna cry?

>>105556595
i got a video of you describing what an incel is. im surprised that a woman browses /g/ tho.

>>105557905
have they also made sure it's not archiveabe?
https://archive.ph/omJxD

>>105554220 (OP)
>I just learned that Mozilla is apparently a feminist LGBTQUIA+ "climate justice" activist group now
this shit has been going on for well over a decade, did you stop reading mozilla news back in 2009?
they have been pulling back on the activist retardation and seem to actually be trying to run a business now, though that also means they have been killing some of their better FOSS projects like Mozilla Location Services

>>105554930
>can it be used without any VPN stuff?
it can, but it's basically a tor browser fork with little else if anything added
dunno how well they keep with security patches

>>105557961
wholesome insights from grimlock.

>>105557905
https://archive.is/5Pe2u
https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e

i aint see no gay shit on my firefox

>>105557961
>redditors are incels
fatwhore trvke

>>105557961
jfc that jumpscare when transfering from average becky to femcel ogre. brutal

>>105554220 (OP)
yet another luncuck thread

>>105557972
no, they rebranded to an activist group late 2024. even paid a company to get the image.

>>105558801
thanks for the archive link, the full commit url works half the time for me but is full of "Comments cannot be loaded right now Refresh the page or try again later GitHub status"
which i assume is just plain censorship

>>105560227
didn't even know who he was when i found him, by now i understand that techtrannies HATE him for speaking truth.
though he seems to advocate for censorship while calling himself a "free speech extremist" in the same breath, which is retarded. don't say you believe in hate speech (aka thought crimes) while saying you believe in free speech. free speech is literally meant to protect hate speech, that's what it is all about.

anyway, anybody tried DuckDuckGo's browser?
letting my search engine company also maintain my browser seems like a really bad idea, like allowing history to repeat itself.

>>105557972
>>105560384
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/
note that they are still using their rebranded activist flag in the logo at the very top left.
they haven't pulled back.

Speaking of Firefox, anyone else getting random "Confirm you're not a bot" prompts on YouTube now? How coincidental that I'm not getting them on Chrome. (: Oh and of course the solution is for you to sign in... If only Google had some sort of other method to confirm someone isn't a bot...

>>105554220 (OP)
If you're this insecure about your browser, use internet explorer and/or kys, chud

>>105554220 (OP)
it's not worth it to change your core software cuz the company kind of sucks right now.

>>105561184
You need to understand, they are doing it to help protect the community.

>>105561200
trannies need to come up with new material, the chad+stud combo has lost its teeth (and never made sense to begin with)

>>105561306
how does that make sense when the change in the company changes the core software?

they removed a line in the FAQ that explicitly promised never to sell user data. no only was it a promise but they even used the word promise.

>>105554535
>But seriously, every day I notice that the Gecko engine is struggling more and more with webpages.
They were going to replace Gecko with Servo and then they fired the whole Servo team.

>>105561500
I've never noticed Gecko struggling and my CPU is 7 years old. Wonder what web pages you need to visit and/or how old hardware you need to have to notice struggle.

Even if Mozilla goes under I hope people behind forks like Tor browser maintains Gecko, otherwise we'll be stuck with Apple (WebKit) and Alphabet (Blink) dictating everything. Realistically Apple will just follow whatever Alphabet says is the standard if they don't want the web to be broken on iOS.

>>105554220 (OP)
>Learned this from multiple videos on this channel
How many shitty fucking threads did you really need to make last night shilling your low-effort culture war channel, goondook? You really think people here don’t recognize prose and can’t pick up on your samefaggotry?

>>105561864
OP here, why do you think that guy would make threads on 4chan? There's what, 10 people ITT? I just found out how shitty Mozilla had become and came to ask my best friends on the whole wide web about advice.

>>105561905
>doubling down
Bryan, please. This is getting embarrassing :(

sure is convenient that people are attacking firefox so that we are only left with Chromium-based browsers that do not support manifest v3...

>>105556146
yeah but it's what people use. the forum ("chat") software is actually good but the centralization is terrible so i hope in 10 years people are somehow on something else.

KiwiFarm's admin says that all messages on discord are transferred unencrypted, so everybody (especially governments) can read what is said in plain text.
That should be added to the list by Stallman.

>>105561935
Honestly you have to wonder if Alphabet planted all these fags and activists into these projects. Sort of like how occupy wallstreet was disrupted. I don't think that was the base with Mozilla since it has been turning worse for so long but when I noticed that LibreWolf was also run by LGBBQ people I started to wonder.
But it could simply be that mentally ill people are the only ones with enough time and drive to work on browsers. Everybody else is making families and more important stuff. A browser is basically just a tool after all, working on an alternative tool that does the exact same thing (render a web page) that you know is used by less than 1% of the world (0.00001% typically for the smallest browsers) isn't exactly rewarding.

>>105562021
Its entirely a possibility, since Occupy orgs were infiltrated by bad actors, and then the beginnings of class consciousness were struck down in the favor of idpol, which every American gleefully engages in completely unaware of how severely they've been duped regardless of their "side".

>>105562021
The Kiwifarms admin stole over $10k from cripple-chan anons and is a fucking retard who can't code. Also your thread is shit go shill yourself somewhere else.

>>105563110
sounds like you've been tricked, he never stole that

>>105563130
Yeah he did. Josh is a fucking retard (and /v/ was dumber for preordering an imageboard) and spent the money on drugs while Infinity Next ended up as a barely function vichan clone with ugly CSS because null thought he knew best. Infinity Next was so shit that it killed 8gag by making the site impossible to load/post on for days at a time for months on end.
>not him

>>105556595
oh, if it doesn’t matter then it should be fine that he chooses to use a different browser, right? and really firefox and librewolf should stop wasting donation money on things that don’t matter? right?

>>105563130
Yeah it's I who am wrong. The 20+ year of faggotry with null didn't happen. Fun fact: He also hid in his mother's bathroom when trannys he was bullying on the internet showed up at her house to confront him. He didn't code the kiwifarms forum either despite him attempting to take credit for it over the years. He bought it and all the modifications for it from Xenforo and his "free speech hosting" scam is just re-selling VPSs he buys for $1 each for insane mark up.

Fuck that faggot and fuck you too.

>>105563170
We'd all have been better off if that glow nigger Watkins toss him to the pigs when he had the chance.

>>105563110
>>105563199
i believe you now, you've changed my mind completely.

>>105563211
I don't care if you believe me. The fact that you're carrying water for Josh of all people is proof enough that you're beyond retarded. The only reason that faggot runs KF is because he's spent half his life attempting to keep information about his own lolcow exploits off the various boards and wikis dedicated to following the exploits of retards on the internet.

He is a massive lolcow and we're never going to forget about the stupid shit he's done. Anyone that willingly posts on that forum shouldn't be allowed on the internet. They're all fucking retards.

Maybe don't spend half your time DDOSing boards like /cow/ and the various websites trying to catalog the exploits of fat fucking faggots like Chris-chan if you don't want people getting pissed off and digging into your own past. He has no one to blame but himself.

>>105563261
say you don't happen to have the url to their gaming forum?

>>105554298
>>105554220 (OP)
kek

Trannyware. Remember, 90% of their funding is going towards tranny propaganda

>>105554910
>i’m 12 and what is the paradox of tolerance?
Reactionaries crying about Eich receiving the consequences of his actions will always be hilarious. If you think a bronze age desert deity is gonna send you to eternal time out over peepees touching then it’s a good thing you ALREADY have the freedom to not get a gay marriage if you so choose. But that’s not what these totalitarian schizophrenic freaks want and they know it. They want to see everyone else have to suffer under the same brainworms bullshit they do. It’s like the kid throwing a tantrum because someone else is allowed to play with a toy they can’t, and their only cope is to cry about it like a fucking bitch.

Good on Mozilla employees to take a stand and not tolerate working under someone actively contributing to a cause that only exists to hurt many of them. It takes an especially broken human to act like entire groups of people deserving basic human rights is “just an opinion” the same way tax rates and zoning regulation is.

Also, buy a fucking ad already instead of shitting up the catalog even more OP.

>>105563533
he got thrown out of a tech project for his private views and you're cheering.

well after being thrown out he started Brave browser, which will now overtake Firefox in usage because Linux distros are switching their default browser from Firefox to Brave, due to Mozilla fags turning Firefox into spyware. In the end straight people always win because they are not mentally ill, and believing in God is more sane than believing you can switch gender.

>>105563623
>he got thrown out of a tech project for his private views
*actively contributing materially to a cause that only exists to deny rights to queer people

See, right from the fucking start you have to make shit up and twist it to even try to have a rebuttal. reactionimage.jpg doesn’t help manifest your fanfiction into reality lol

>zorin and nobara represent the entirety of the freedesktop.org ecosystem
lmao, even

>>105563623
>In the end straight people always win because they are not mentally ill, and believing in God is more sane than believing you can switch gender.
Holy based anon

>>105554220 (OP)
>it’s the economy stupid
Choosing an inferior browser because of politics is like choosing poverty because of culture wars. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

>>105563779
queer people should have no rights, he is completely correct. trans rights only work if you take away rights from real men and women. honestly anon, people like you have made far-right simply mean "very correct" these days.

>>105564267
>trans rights only work if you take away rights from real men and women
>no, i will NOT elaborate
k

>>105554220 (OP)
Why are white people like this?

>I'm going to keep spamming off-topic political rage bait to keep my shill thread bumped
Kill yourself faggot.

>>105564341
mozarella is a brown trans latinx organization doe

>>105564339
what do you mean "elaborate", it's fucking obvious?
"trans rights" is having the same rights as women, meaning invading women-only space like bathrooms, sports, prisons, shelters. this takes away the rights for real women to have women-only spaces. a right men granted women for their protection against men, we should not give men pretending to be women the right to invade those spaces. christ man...

>>105564460
OP here, I settled with Mullvad Browser.

It's like Tor Browser but works with non-Tor VPN instead. However it can be used like a normal browser without a VPN.

>>105560423
I'm still curious about DuckDuckGo's browser but like I said it's probably a bad idea to give another search engine browser power.

>>105565115
>it's fucking obvious?
lol
>women don't belong in women's spaces!
lmao, even

>>105563533
>>105563779
>>105565271
ywnbaw troon

>>105561184
werks on my machine

>>105565136
>I settled for Chrome+some spyware bullshit added on top
Retard of the week.
>still desperately bumping thread to promote youtube channel
rope buy it.

>>105566797
Mullvad is a Tor Browser fork, retarded firecuck shill.

>>105566839
Wow so it's Gecko touched by the US Navy then shit out by a scam VPN company? Amazing!

Why can't someone just make a new browser engine? Give some tools to chat gpt, let it build and debug its own browser engine until it's done

Sure, maybe it runs for serval days or a couple weeks just working and debugging its source code, but just have enough unit tests to ensure the product works and enough cash to pay for those tokens, and there will be a new open source browser engine now

>>105566871
I mean, shit.
It's already read all of the source code for chromium and gecko. It doesn't actually need to write anything new, it just needs to basically steal their code

>>105566877
Continuing on this train of thought, it's a perfect use case for genai. It doesn't actually need to be used to create anything new, it's kind of bad at that. It can just be used to completely rip off open source projects that do something cool but it ends up just writing its own version of it that's free of any license constraints

>>105566871
>Why can't someone just make a new browser engine?
https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird
Made by /ourguy/ and fellow anon Andreas King.

>>105562021
thats not really true. The reason why you don't see as many as selection of browsers as you used to is because the chromium killed all development. It just became a waste of time to maintain when googles browser is gangbanging you three ways. So with browsers "solved" they moved on to other projects. Firefox basically sawed itself in half when they moved away from XMP. IE was always a joke. Opera and whatever other browsers were never relevant fringe things.
Nope just fucking use chromium goys. Its amazing that google literally did nothing but simple and somewhat aggressive marketing and completely captured the entire web market just by attrition.

It is entirely possible google put in plants or did sneaky shit in contracts to fuck over their competition.

>>105554220 (OP)
Use Icecat so you won't be a dumdum. It's literally THE BEST firefox fork evah made.

>>105566871
>chat gpt
vibe cooding zoomer

>>105554220 (OP)
>hey guys i just RANDOMLY stumbled across this channel that gets shilled every goddamn day by no life parasocial losers or, even worse, the grifter himself
>please post about this contrived and tired talking point in my totally organic thread you guys xD
Luncuck should really have just killed himself after LAS, leaching off Chris was the most he'll ever accomplish in this life.

Also, who the FUCK were you quoting at the end?

>>105568747
>hey guys I'm schizophrenic
>...
>... *crazy nonsense*
>...
>WELL WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT?!?!?

>>105554220 (OP)
What do you expect when the female boss of Mozilla only has an East Asian studies degree instead of a STEM degree

>>105569446
>East Asian studies
wtf

>>105554220 (OP)
The main issue is that Firefox is the only non-chrome mainstream browser on windows or linux.

On macOS you still have Safari what works flawless with Adblock solutions like Wipr or Adguard. (and ublock is coming later this year too).

If you have no Mac you have to stick with chromium or firefox. Nothing else. And Ladybirds focus is currently on unix like OSs like macOS or Linux.

>>105568747
meds schizo

>>105560473
It's a dinosaur.

>>105556595
I'm not an incel but I do care about lgbt crap in software, it's not right

>>105567093
This. Icechads keep winning.

how do I harden firefox nowadays? I tried arkenfox and betterfox with privacy resist fingerprinting on and still get 'you have a unique fingerprint' in amiunique.org and coveryourtracks.

>>105571913
you don’t understand how fingerprinting works and it shows.

>>105571942
how does it work? teach me

>>105571913
>harden firefox
Waste of time. Just install Mullvad Browser.

>>105561935
Cope
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2024/05/14/manifest-v3-updates/

>>105566797
>doesn't even know the absolute first thing about Mullvad Browser
>low iq mongrel calling others a retard
how you slit your throat instead of telling intelligent people to buy rope?

>>105566871
good point, i think ai is too incapable now but in 10 years you'll probably just be able to ask it to make a browser with and telemetry stripped out and it will actually work

>>105568747
I was separating the thread topic from my comments on the topic by different colored text. You may think of those two > lines as a second post.

>>105570026
Was going to say something about safari still not supporting webm but seems like it is actually supported now, since 2022.

>>105571016
I know what imagery the activism flag incorporates but it is still their new activism flag, which they paid for during rebranding last year.

It wasn't a cheap rebrand into activism, it was done by Jones Knowles Ritchie, who has worked with Walmart, Burger King, Kraft Heinz, Coca-Cola, M&M, etc.

>>105567093
>>105571747
If IceCat is so great I wonder why a lot of Linux distros went with Brave when replacing Firefox.

>>105572920
That doesn't say that v3 support is dropped, did you misread the post you replied to?

Btw I find it very strange that you can't turn off internet access for an addon, or make an addon only run on tabs on specific domains (no matter what domain "permissions" the addon wants).
Why isn't this a thing?

>>105569331
it's better to have 1000 trannyposters than 10 posting trannies

>>105554220 (OP)
If you are married to the firefox layout then Pale Moon is alright.
Maybe keep an ungoogled chromium as backup

>>105562021
>>105563110
>>105563261
>>105563199
he's partially correct. Discord mesages are transferred encrypted to discord servers, but the admins can read them.


anyways josh moon isn't a trustworthy person. He's basically said he lets users cowtip when he thinks he will get away with it.
https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/null-openly-engaging-in-cow-tipping.4550/

He also hosted animal rape porn for many years:
https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/zoosadist-content-hosted-on-kiwi-farms.4459/

>>105573896
btw onionfarms site is also full of losers eventho what they are saying about kf is true

>>105573896
him thinking you may tip the cows or not has nothing to do with making him untrustworthy, neither has the type of content hosted by him. if he hosts legal content (he only hosts legal content) in order to show people what other people are doing it has nothing to do with how trustworthy he is. even if he hosted illegal content (which he doesn't) that still wouldn't make him untrustworthy. are you confused over what trust is?

>>105573625
>which they paid
some millions btw

>>105554220 (OP)
Abandon fireshit and use Brave until Orion releaes.

>>105573625
>If IceCat is so great I wonder why a lot of Linux distros went with Brave when replacing Firefox.
Because IceCat is based on Firefox ESR (which doesn't mean insecure). People would start complaining about Firefox being outdated and at risk.

>>105576139
i bet they would have made more money by not re-branding and going to Microsoft to ask if they want to pay to put Bing as the default search option.
after Mozilla's identity became "a group of activists" and after removing their *promise* of not selling user data they must have lost so many users that such a deal would no longer seem worth it to Microsoft.

I have an embarrassing issue with Firefox that I need help to resolve.
When I hover over the Firefox icon on my task bar, each tab that I have open, regardless of windows, is displayed as a thumbnail. Incognito Firefox works normally, where thumbnails are only windows.
How do I get regular Firefox to only display windows as thumbnails?

>>105576469
there's nothing wrong with firefox ruining your SSD, just buy a new one you selfish prick

>>105569331
>she

>>105566871
>Give some tools to chat gpt, let it build and debug its own browser engine until it's done
le vibe cooder zoomer

>>105577141
Do you want to uncheck "Show tab previews in the Windows taskbar" inside about:preferences (Settings)?

>>105558801
Shamefur dispray

>>105580394
Thank you, anon.

>>105573625
>IceCat is so great
Exact. It just works.

>>105584122
let's search for "IceCat review", see what comes up
https://old.reddit.com/r/gnu/comments/101ph3u/anyone_using_icecat_is_it_abandoned/
>Icecat isn't quite abandoned, as there is still some development work ongoing. However, they haven't had an official release in years, and most of the work is only available through their source control
>no idea how to install it
>It is not for end users but for developers. If you don't know how to download a source package, read the compilation instructions, manually satisfy the compilation dependencies, compile, strip, then install the compiled binary on your machine, then that's OK!
uuhhhhh

>>105573406
I know there is no point in running anything made by some scam company selling VPNs when I can simply grab Firefox from my OS repos and configure it myself. I'm not some retard that would use a scam VPN in the first place. Why would I buy overpriced VPS server from someone else when I can purchase it myself? Why would I trust some scam company to properly configure firefox when I can configure it myself?

Have fun getting datamined faggot. Why is this shill thread even still up? Jannys will ban you for saying anything here yet this faggot shills his youtube channel everyday and nothing is done about it. Almost like this place is over run with shills and you can shill all you want as long as you give Hiromoot $3.
>muh complaining about 4chan

>>105585368
>plebbit
Go back.

>>105585423
It's Tor Browser but with support for Mullvad VPN but you don't need to use it.
The creator of thepiratebay (running Mullvad VPN) is a lot more trustworthy than Mozilla after they just removed a promise from their FAQ.

>>105585430
https://linuxreviews.org/GNU_IceCat#The_other_.22feature-adding.22_extensions
uuuuhhhhhhhhhh

>>105585368
Works on my machine.

Jewduke to the rescue.

>>105585607
so he is proven to be Jewish then? heard a slip in that video when he promoted censorship but thought he might have said others accuse him of being a jew, not that he actually is one

>>105566914
>Andreas King
Truly a /g/entleman

>>105587095
I kneel

i use chrome

>>105576469
Kagi Orion? Based.

>>105588324
good morning sir

>>105554220 (OP)
old news, kys dukie

>>105587095
link to the post so i can witness

>>105563533
>>105563533
>>105563533
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>>105591078
https://archive.is/XxhZw#issuecomment-830793992
https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814#issuecomment-830793992

>>105591395
>ꜱoydevs & troons seething
Based

>>105591395
thank you! hope he never changes or pretends to change due to pressure

>>105591395
>>105592461
hold up, that isn't the post in the screenshot of >>105587095
guess he copypastes the same response to similar things but if anybody have the one from Feb 5 (shown inside the image) i'd appreciate the link to it as well.

>>105592534
https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/5235#issuecomment-773861975

What's pissing me off about Librewolf is after a while it lags very briefly while scrolling, then the tabs are "frozen", and I can't click the currently open tabs off. I can open new ones, and right click on tabs and close all either side, but I can't close them.
Or click the search box.
I have no fucking clue what is causing this.
Not exactly requesting help, though if anyone can I'd appreciate it, but its really wearing my patience thin. I am considering trying an alternate firefox fork if it doesn't stop.

Mozilla doesn't speak for me. I'm pro-LGBT and I speak for myself.
I've been using LibreWolf, ever since the dumpster fire over Mozilla dropping their promise not to sell your data. Can't trust Mozilla with regards to my privacy.
I do not want them selling my data with regards to not just my personal details, but all sorts of things like my work, interests and gender identity.

>>105592942
thank you!

>>105592950
https://youtu.be/AyjiOBWH91s
i went from Librewolf to Mullvad Browser (you don't need to use Mullvad VPN, can be used without VPN or even a different VPN)

>>105593444
Checked but why are you pro trans? LGB i can understand since it is at least real.

>>105554220 (OP)
i've been using zen. how pozzed is it?

>>105554220 (OP)
You're still better off using Firefox than Microsoft Edge or Google Chrome, it's all still shit at the end of the day.

>>105566488
>librewoke

will ladybird be pozzed as well?

>>105554220 (OP)
fuck off lunduke

>>105554220 (OP)
Another moron who can't separate the art from the artist

>>105554220 (OP)
I care more about stopping Chromium from having a monopoly, the social views of Mozilla developers are irrelevant. There are liberals inside every tech company

>>105596159
It's the worst and slowest browser ever.

>>105554220 (OP)
Hi lund faggot. Stop shilling your stupid jewish journalism here

>>105576469
>>105577145
Mozilla invest their google money on financial instruments like fixed-income securities etc. I won't be surprised if they actually own some WD or Seagate stocks kek

>>105565115
>actually believing that less rights for others is a good thing
you are truly lost, may your wretched soul receive no rest

>>105563533
>>105563779
>>105565271
incredibly based

>>105565271
>>105599537
is it just me or am i reading something different to what you guys are interpreting?

>>105563533
>>105591270
>>105599537
>ree my furryfox should be heckin woke and proud
No wonder this piece of shit is losing market share so fast to Chromium-based browsers. All the remaining furryfox supporters are literal faggots and trannies.

>>105554220 (OP)
Yes that sucks but the only alternative is a browser made by an advertising company and that's even worse

>>105600083
>caring about marketshare for a free product
this is a lukewarm take, but why would i care about how many people use the same browser as i do?
it's not some popularity contest, i'm using this browser because i like the tech.

also, comparing chrome (default browser on most phones), safari (default browser on the other half of phones) and edge (default browser on most pcs) to firefox, which is the default on the tiny minority of linux computers, is irrelevant.

>>105600254
It matters because having so little marketshare no devs will give a fuck about making shit work on firefox and chrome will continue to cement their monopoly and dictate web "standards".

>>105600273
wonder whatever happened to w3c...

>>105600083
>fucking safari is a more competitive non-chromium alternative than firefox
lmao

>>105554220 (OP)
I use Waterfox. It's good.