I bought a 60" LG plasma television back in 2013. I want to buy a new TV because the panel uses like 600 watts and buzzes like a fluorescent light because I moved so high in altitude. I haven't really looked at TVs much since I bought it years ago. I went to a Best Buy the other day and there literally wasn't a single TV without smart features or some shitty Roku operating system or whatever? Even the no-name Chinese TVs had it. There wasn't a single TV that could just turn on and go to HDMI or enter an OSD without loading or going through three or four menus. Family members have bought these TVs and the software becomes so slow within like a year that they throw it out and buy a new one. Maybe I'm just a fucking boomer but why is it impossible to find a TV that behaves like a monitor by turning on and leaving you alone?
because the ads they push to you via smart features subsidize the cost of the tvs
Just bought a dirt-cheap LG 43" Nano81 for my sister. The GUI is unresponsive dogshit, but with a bit of fiddling it did start up straight to HDMI without popping up the startup menu (also turned fast startup off, it made it startup slow). She never has to see webos, set top box has its own remote.
is there any custom firmware for these tvs???
>>105554968 (OP)whatever you decide on make sure it has Google tv or get a Google tv box, everything else is so locked down you can't do anything with them. With android you can install custom ad blocking apps and even run emulators.
>>105554968 (OP)just take the smart tv pill. it's way more comfy to watch movies with plex or jellyfin without having to hook up a computer to your TV like some kind of luddite. no quality loss either as long as they direct play.
I refuse to buy a TV until I can get a true "dumb" display to hook my own shit up to. Even commercial displays have smartslop on them now.
>>105554968 (OP)Get whatever fits your preference for the display. I think LG TVs require an Internet connection to set up. You could get a nice Roku TV and add a Google TV box. I have TVs with Fire TV and Roku OS set up without an Internet connection, using the Onn 4K Pro Streaming Device with Google TV. I also have a variety of pirate streaming apps for sports and movies.
can't we just leave a rasb pi on the hdmi port so every smart tv becomes a display either way? or has the industry fucked that too (forcing you to boot into their OS first)
You won't find many without smart features but they really don't matter. Get a good tv, hook up your own streaming box/stick to it and that's all you need. Never connect the TV to Wifi or Ethernet and you're fine.
My last purchase for my home office was the Bravia 9, and while I use the on-tv apps because thye do all the upscaling and magic etc it's a really solid set.
I'm not sure what WebOS is like offline, but anything with Google TV will operate without a connection just fine with no nagging.
>>105556211I get annoying no Internet connection pop ups constantly in the corner when the internet goes out and I'm watching something with plex on the LAN
>>105555846Retarded hyperconsoomer slopwit.
>>105557387how is it different? it's sending the same file bit for bit
>>105554968 (OP)This is why I have not and will not upgrade my TV. I don't even give a shit anymore. There are chinese TV controller boards but you have to open your TV and dick around with it and be somewhat proficient in electronics to modify them. That's my only other option.
>>105555036Pretty much this, I've seen estimates that TVs will cost 30-40% more without the ads.. Though that rubbish I think, but it could easily be 10-20%
To be honest I never touch the built in OS except to change HDMI outputs, I find it far more reliable to have an independent TV box.
Currently trying out Apple TV and it's not bad so far. An ideal solution would be a bespoke Android TV OS that cuts out Google's ads but as far as I know nobody has done that yet.
>Everyone here wants a box or separate OS
Why get a box? To what benefit is using your own os either?
I saw a thread on a privacy subreddit on this.
They were saying you have to get a TV sold as a display panel for menus and advertising and shit.
Amazon seemed to sell pleanty of them
>>105554968 (OP)Either get a large 40"+ monitor, or a commercial display like
>>105561267 said.
If you don't care about shit like oled or hdr, there are some decent used options for TVs from around 10 years ago with no embedded smartshit
>>105555094OR, op can install a Pihole or DNS-level adblocking on freshtomato. Even better!
>>105555060This should be the real solution