Thread 105563206

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/z7DMsgQV

Previous: >>105554222

I use Arch. What GPU should I buy?

Can some kind anon confirm if this RAM is compatible with the MOBO?

>>105563250
3090 if you're white.

>>105563255
looks like it

>>105563255
Nope.

>>105563286
How do you know?

>>105563293
years of experience to tell me what I'm looking at

>>105563293
I checked their site.

>>105563250
5090 works fine on arch. Had no issues so far.

>>105563255
https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b850-a-gaming-wifi/helpdesk_qvl_memory/

check yourself but it's not in the table, not even a non-rgb variant or something with similar speed

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-n1x-20-core-cpu-performance-leak-reveals-high-end-ambitions

Very cool Jensen

>>105563298
>>105563305
>>105563323
But I already bought the RAM and the mobo is in the mail.

>>105563342
It might still run that fast and just isn't updated to the chart, and if not, you'll you'll just run it slightly slower (if it even is any slower).

>>105563342
just fucking with ya
you'll be fine

>>105563342
good chance it will still work fine, the table is just their "assurance". The higher speeds you go though the less likely it is to be stable if it's "not compatible"

Radeon makes such a good looking cards.. R9nano, Vega56nano, Radeon VII....

>>105563255
>>105563323
QVL list is just a suggestion, and not a be-all-end-all list.

It's simply a list of RAM working at confirmed/specified speeds. As long as you're not doing anything outrageous, 95% of RAM should work at motherboard supported speeds.

When in doubt, just go with major brands like G.Skill or Crucial. Corsair is a big 'meh'...

I am so fucking bored dog

>>105563358
>>105563359
>>105563362
>>105563381
I'm getting tilted, anons. How do I solve this conundrum?

>>105563255
lmao I didn't know that they could be incompatible

>>105563206 (OP)
>Sticky is recommending not only a Noctua cooler, but the latest and greatest with the price premium

>>105563396
You're fine
If it doesn't work, then just return it.
Amazon typically has a lenient return policy--the most that will happen is that you'll delay your build for a few days, but otherwise you're gucci and/or you can always run it at slower speeds for better compatibility.

Angry? Frustrated?

>>105563463
The Radeon card owner couldn't orient his CPU cooler properly.

This is a daily reminder that you should be upgrading to a 4k OLED and no you do not need a 4090/5090 to play at 4k, even a 5070ti or 4080 will look better at lower settings on 4k monitor than maxed out with 500+ hz 1440p OLED monitor. Unless you are on a professional Esports team, there is zero reason to ever choose a higher hz 1440p monitor over a 4k one.

>b.bbbbut muh refresh rate

Even 60fps on 4k is far superior to playing at 500fps on a 1440p anyone saying otherwise is just a retarded poorfag coping they can't afford it.

>>105563478
Frustrated?

>>105563410
NH-D15 G2 is a "buy once, cry once" type of purchase.

>>105563498
Literally not my problem.

>>105563463
I do the same thing, cable management is a meme. the easiest way to plug a thing in is also the easiest way to unplug it when you want to continue working on your shit which is also the only time you're looking at the cables (windows are also a meme)

Pre-built chads ww@??

>>105563663
The only prebuilts I trust are from starforge.

>>105563463
>>105563570
The only think I will say otherwise is, unless you're using a fixed backplane, the HDD power is facing the rear, mandating uninstalling the back panel to add or remove drives.

Otherwise, it's fucking fine

>>105563675
>Dick PC's

>>105563717
They're on sleds, they slide out

>>105563481
60fps is always inferior so I really don't see your point.

>>105563481
To each their fucking own
If you are going to spring for a 4k, get a QD-OLED monitor.

Otherwise, pixel density is a thing, so if you do stick with 1440p, don't go above 27/28 in.
>Got one of the first relatively expensive Dell Gsync 1440p monitors
>Still works great despite missing modern creature comforts like HDR

How does full HD look on a 1440p screen?

Bwos I'll be putting a PC together for the first time and I'm scared I'll fuck up and break everything and waste a shit load of money and never recover mentally

>>105563741
You still have to remove the back panel to uninstall them, you dork
>Unless you have a backplane

>>105563803
No. I slide them out and take out the cables.
This is not complicated.

>>105563788
Like ass, but beggers can't be choosers
Also never buy a monitor unless you've seen it in-person
You may even want to take a laptop to a brick and mortar store to test image quality, especially at lower/desired resolutions.

If you're on a budget, being picky is a luxury

>>105563803
you're the one that can't greentext right, and if there's enough slack in the wires he could be unhooking them after pull it completely out. Of course, we know there's not enough slack in the power wires for that, that would mean using an extra foot of cable over the minimum, so that's obviously not the case, but it's equally obvious there's no backplane.

>>105563834
Whatever, you do you
Still would make more sense if power and data were on the other side, but enjoy what small vanities you can afford

>>105563788
I had my Switch hooked up to my 1440p Monitor and the games would all look fine but on my PC when I set a game to 1080p it would look awkward.

>>105563847
>"You're posting wrong!"

>>105563857
Shit, it'd be more complicated to have the cables sticking out from the front.

>>105563888
Once upon a time, that wasn't the case
But case manufacturers are prioritizing aesthetics, so you have yo go out of your way for convenience as a result.

Getting a build for a birthday present, I don't care to assemble my own anymore after doing it like three or four times.

From ibuypower if you want to recommend alternate parts for the build on there, or I could go with a different builder open to recommendations. I play at 1440p at desk monitor but I also have it hooked up to a 50 some odd inch tv for laying back casual controller games.

>>105563788
like shit, just get a 4k screen instead.

>>105563926
It looks fine, just mind the thermals

>>105563926
That's a pretty expensive birthday gift. I want to be your friend anon

>>105563986
>Correction: you want to be friends with whomever is gifting him that computer

Should I use the 12V 2x6 cable from my MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W PSU for the Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti?
Yeah, I know, the GPU is overpriced, but it's what I have right now.

>>105563481
1440p/144 is definitely nicer in games than 2160p/60. maybe if you only ever play grand strategy games is this debatable.

but it doesn't matter because we have LSFG so you can just 2x from 60 to 120 on your 4k monitor anyway. wont be as good as native but w/e. also for epsorts games you're not running at 4k, not even 1080p.

That reminds me, another plus to my 9070 purchase is that I didn't need to use the meme connector. Oh boy.

>>105563986
I forwent a couple of birthdays and christmaseseses to save up.

>>105563970
as in just in general or because prebuilts will leave the plastic on my cpu cooler? I currently have a box fan that exhausts from the side of my pc toward a window AC unit

>>105564030
5070Ti doesn't draw enough power for it to matter

Monitor bros......Tandem OLED's will be upon us very soon, just hold out a bit longer.

I love my 5090 and am waiting for a water block.

>>105564135
I also want a 5090...

>>105564152
Just keep an eye on the 4090 used market, 5090's are around $4000 here and for a while 4090's were selling for $3500 used. Right now though the price on them has already dropped $1000 as tons of used 4090's are being sold for $2500 and the price will keep dropping due to lack of demand.

Some shrink should write a paper on amd fanboy's mind. I have been building pcs since pentium ii and for some reason amd fanboys act the same despite the dacades of difference between their ages. I blame amd for it as well. Not many remember the prescott rescue kit released by amd. It was not an act of a serious company.

>>105563926
>windows 11
lol

pretty stupid question but I've had the same drive for a long time, is it better to do a clean OS install or migrate to my new NVMe drive? And how would I go about doing that.

>>105563367
>Are transistors the main metric when buying a card?
Thats computing power minus architecture weakness and sleepy gpu blocks so yeas.

>>105564310
I'll have my old hard drives with 10 so I'm not really worried about that, but might as well have it for when games require it.

How do I clean cum stains from side glass panel?

>>105564346
with your tongue

>>105564346
Remove glass and clean it

Not currently building a pc but I like to muck around in pcpartpicker just to see what the most expensive builds look like.

I noticed that there are GPUs with AIO cooling solutions attached with large radiators and I was wondering how the hell mounting those things even works, especially if you're also AIO cooling your CPU.

Do you need a case that's able to handle both? Do you have the gpu radiator blowing out the back and cpu out the top or vice versa? I'm pretty curious and would like to see pics of setups like that.

>he got all 9 dragon figs
he's well connected

>>105564506
angloid phenotype

>>105564464
>Do you need a case that's able to handle both?
Yes.

Hello, anons.
To update my motherboard's WiFi and Bluetooth drivers, should I get them from my manufacturer, or directly from Intel?
Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX200 160MHz and X570 board
Thanks

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250611299049/en/PCI-SIG-Releases-PCIe-7.0-Specification-to-Support-the-Bandwidth-Demands-of-Artificial-Intelligence-at-128.0-GTs-Transfer-Rates

HIS GPU DOESN'T SUPPORT PCIe 7.0

NGMI

A lot of water rained on my Asus PB278QV.
Bought it for 269€ in 2021, now it's 400€, wtf.

Any recommendations for a 1440p 27" monitor?
I do art and video editing so color accuracy is top priority.

>>105564599
The mobo manufacturer

>>105564819
I forgot to state:
>budget
I'd say 400€, 500€ if it's really worth it
>country
Italy

I was able to get 2 siwtch 2's at gamestop today

How long until 9070 XTs become reasonably priced? I will not pay 900 USD for one.

>>105565010
Why, next gen, of course.

>be a neet
>have enough for a new pc
>have an existential crisis about spending $2k for a new one when i'm used to only spending $1k in the past
learning about computer parts was a mistake, i miss the days where i grabbed the prebuilt for $1k that had bigger numbers and was happy. upgrading to 1440p seems like it costs an extra $400-$600 too over staying on 1080p and getting a 9060xt or 5060 ti instead and that's before the new monitors.

>>105564898
You should have gotten 1 good handheld PC instead

The only white PSU being sold in my country is the Gigabyte GP-UD850GM PG5W, but I heard it's shit, so I guess I won't be doing a white build...

Stoked about Celestial.

>>105564898
At launch, I saw 6 total available.

I can't imagine buying a computer that doesn't have a basic application suite.

>>105564819
>PB278QV
kino monitor
no wonder the price went up

>>105564819
>>105564835
if you're not gaming and can tolerate 24" the BenQ SW242Q can be quite nice, it's 16:10 2560x1600, aimed at artists and stuff with decent color accuracy from the reviews I remember seeing, and should be ~400€ if it's like the RD240Q which I daily drive (also 16:10 but more aimed at devs and people who do text work)

>>105565162
>9060xt or 5060 ti
those are 1080p cards

>>105565398
I still hope that it will dry to the air.

>>105565402
I would like to stick with 27" 1440p because I have a second monitor of that same specs and I feel my OCD won't tolerate the difference.
Also I am no competitive gamer, 75hz is fine by me, bu I do game occasionally and plan to do some game development, so there's that.

>>105565431
yeah, i'm saying that if i stayed on 1080p and grabbed one of those i'd save a lot of money over upgrading to 1440p. like enough to fund half of another pc in 5 years.

Considering clipchamp is striaght up aids whats the go to free video editor for people who build pcs

>>105565538
Davinci resolve

Is it bad if I pair 9800x3d with a 3070? I wanna wait until next set of GPUs but wanna build a new PC and use an old gpu

>>105565548
you're going to wait 1.5 years just to get a GPU and feel the need to buy a 98x3d now? lol that's retarded anon

>>105565548
what is your current processor?

>>105565528
higher resolution = less money needed for CPU as resolution reduces CPU load

>>105565548
waste of money, what's your current build?

>>105565548
It doesn't matter? You can even plug-in 8800gt.

>>105565162
yeah i'm in the same spot but just for building one in general. I have $4k and i'd be happy with a $1.5k setup but I feel like im too old to mess around on the computer anymore.

>>105565548
>9800x3d with a 3070
That's just dumb
if you are using a 3070 you are wasting money buying a 9800X3D

Will Druid launch at the same time as Celestial?

>>105565552
It's pretty nice

>>105565590
it'd be pretty cool if the 5070 had 16gb of vram so this wouldn't be an issue and $1500 would make for a nice build without having to be upsold to the 5070 ti. the 5070 might as well not even exist, it's ridiculous.

>>105565688
The 5070 crushes both the 5060TI and 9060XT at all resolutions

>>105565548
If you game GPU>CPU. Both is obviously best.

my build is a little... mentally disturbed
current specs
>optiplex 3050 micro
>i7-7700t
>intel arc a750 8gb
>480 gb sata ssd
>2 sata hdd's
>2x8gb ddr4 sodimm
>500 watt thermaltake psu + dell powerbrick
>2 shitty monitors 1080p 60hz

anyways if you look up that optiplex, you can see i like to do a experimenting, this is fun but also rather unstable, id like to get an amd cpu n motherboard proper, as well as a decent monitor, id also like to get an amd gpu for pure rasterization and use the intel for a vm or other tasks (i use arch btw) but i do make basic blender stuff n animations
(yeah no case im planning on mounting it inside that desk for something discrete)
as for why so crappy, well i fished the optiplex out of the trash and i got curious about how far i could push the poor thing until turned it into this

>>105565654
Druid is the succeeding GPU architecture to Celestial (A, B, C, D).
If Intel still can't make an RTX -70 tier competing card by that time, they need to focus on iGPU/APUs instead.
-70 tier and up cards are important because they're higher-margin SKUs.

>>105565314
>>105565388

Is there any games I can get for it? I have mario kart world already.

Its for my nepheows

>>105565697
won't the 12gb of vram still basically fuck you over the same time that the 5060 ti and 9060 xt become obsolete?

i've decided to get a 5070 ti what other parts do i get for it?

>>105563206 (OP)
should update the cpu rec to thermalright royal praetor 130. Outperforms the phantom spirit
Should also change the aio rec to id cooling fx360 or montech hyperflow, both of which outperform thermalright AND have quieter pumps/fans

how do I set a minium voltage for adaptive voltage in asus bios? I want the CPU to use as much voltage as it needs but always have a minimum of 1.3v going through at all times for stability

>>105565755
cyberpunk
gta 6

>>105565755
You're spoiling them Oscar, let them be happy with Mario Kart.
Switch 2 Edition Zeldas, Puyo Puyo Tetris.

>>105565356
Just get a white case that hides the PSU

>>105565734
oh budget and country... america and lets say 500$

My PC case (Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-05) is damaged and my motherboard is gigabyte b450m ds3h. Are there any PC cases for under $150 that are compatible with my motherboard?

>>105565825
Buy used everything for that budget, maybe buy a new monitor since they are affordable.
>Ryzen 5600/X + board combo deal
>RX 6600/XT or 7600/XT

Keep track of this CPU/board/memory bundle deal.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/277186970513

>>105565844
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-1x/sp#sp

says it's a micro ATX, so basically any mid-size or full-size case will take it. not sure about it being able to use the new ports on the case or w/e though.

>>105565757
once the new game consoles are out, anything under 16gb will be obsolete basically overnight

>>105565754
This rumor indicates nova lake has integrated graphics with xe3 and xe4 units:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-nova-lake-cpus-reportedly-get-a-gpu-overhaul-xe3-celestial-and-xe4-druid-ips-used-for-graphics-media-and-display

>>105565847
What will it go for? Sounds like a great deal.

>>105565755
Fast Fusion

>>105565878
There's going to be another long cross-generation period (3 years minimum), 12GB cards will be fine throughout that time.
Sony Interactive Entertainment are still making a lot of money off of PS4 owners who never made the jump.

>>105565878
nonsense

>>105565010
lol

>>105565909
If you're the guy with the $500 budget, try to win that bid for under $200 if you can, new parts cost around $300.
Bidding will be pretty competitive considering the seller is reliable and shares trustworthy images.

>>105565903
The GPU compute units (iGPU) are Celestial tiles, that's what matters.

>>105565688
according to PCPP, the current prices for new GPUs that have acceptable amounts of VRAM (in the USA)

>9600 XT 16gb - $379
>5060 Ti 16gb - $429
>9070 16gb - $599
>9070 XT 16gb - $730
>7900 XT 20gb - $811
>5070 Ti 16gb - $843
>7900 XTX 24gb - $999
>5080 16gb - $1399
>4090 24gb - $2499
>5090 32gb - $2912

>>105565909
These Microcenter bundles are also nice, but they include 16GB of memory and a cheaper board.

>>105565930
>2016 to 2023
>"add-on content" AKA in-game purchase trash/literally getting children addicted to gambling has increased by 176%
>actual games went down 12%
there's your answer to why games all AAA games suck dick now. evil faggots.

>just got my 9060xt
>snaped in just fine or so I thought
>start pc up
>black screen
>an hour later and am able to get it running only when it leans to the right in the case and I can't screw it in

I have no idea what to do now. The card seems to run fine while it is unsecured but the second I push on it to try and screw it in it stops working which probably means it's not connecting properly anyway. I am fucking lost.

>>105565984
>have to pay basically 2x the money just to go from 60 class to 70 class now
>another 50%ish to go to the 80 class that is only nvidia now and isn't even that much better lol
>and finally the 90 class that has been insanely inflated by businesses cheaping out and buying gaming GPUs instead of the enterprise hardware they're supposed to buy
lol

>>105566044
my mistake, it's actually more than 50% to go from 70 class to 80 class. lol

>>105566021
That's why Sony is trying hard to develop live-service titles, expect that Marvel fighting game to have a lot of MTX.
Disney/Marvel demands an insane premium for the rights of their IP (at least 20% from leaked documents).

>>105565984
3060 12GB was released on Feb 25th, 2021 and a limited number of people were able to buy it at the base MSRP ($329).
9060XT @ $380 is not that terrible. Even 5060Ti 16GB for $429 isn't that crazy considering the 3060Ti had a $399 MSRP.

Could be better? Sure.

>>105565978
It sounds like Xe4 is complete though.

>>105565984
The middle class (of GPUs) is dead...

Got a 5080 for $100 more than a 5070ti costs here since the FE came in stock. Just need that new 500hz Tandem OLED to release next month and we set.

>>105565356
there is no case worth a shit that allows the PSU to be seen anyway

>>105566093
Doubt it, the media & display engines are on a separate tile.
That SoC tile is using a cheaper TSMC 6nm node iirc.
The Celestial cores are at least on TSMC 3nm.

Intel is not ready to sell a Druid dGPU.

The 9070XT is reasonably priced everywhere except America. Americans are the only ones buying them and are being actively punished for it with inflated pricing. What did AMD mean by this?

>>105566123
so 2027 for Druid?

>>105566105
>>105565786
But the cables will be black, right?

just how much better is a 5090 compared to a 5080?

>>105566214
The 5080 is literally a 5090 cut in half

>>105566220
Just use AI to make up the difference lmao.

>>105566214
The 5090 is a beast even compared to the 4090, however, it's cost is not reasonable. The 5080 can be overclocked very well, but it still falls just under the 4090. That's the pecking order.

>>105566214
its about 50% faster

I can't believe the 4090 cost $1600

>>105566248
Is it though? I have my doubts.

Like as an example, nobody codes for amd, so when people say ai works better on nvidia, it's more like, well, they literally designed it on nvidia hardware, and that's all they've ever used in their entire lives.

>>105566086
not fair to compare nvidia to AMD due to CUDA. and that 429 5060 ti is probably a scam listing or bugged and already sold out via scalper bots

WHY DID THEY STOP MAKING THESE?
Any alternative to those classic SATA drives and not those NVME fuckfaces? Who still make them as reliable and cheap?
It's joever, ain't it?
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>105566273
if you bought a 4090 in late 2022 at MSRP you literally have never lost money on it lol

>>105566289
>Who still make them as reliable and cheap?
crucial, though they are dram-less.

>>105566289
the main cost of an SSD is NAND flash, why would they keep making dogshit sata drives when NVMe are going to cost the same anyway

>>105566290
It was a great purchase indeed, 4000 series had a big perf boost too, unlike the 5000s which are more of a price update than a performance increase.

>>105566289
>Sata SSDs

>>105566289
Samsung 870 EVO, but they're not cheap.

>>105566289
Why did you mirror the image?

>>105566289
I'm seeing $55 1TB WD Blue 3D SSDs on amazon, which is a fine TLC drive with Dram if you need it
the 2TB models that are still available for $100 or less on pcpp are all mostly lower end drives though
>>105566323
maybe he's australian

>>105565984
where 7800XT

redpill me on liquid jew coolers

>>105566374
$599. i had it on there but I took it off because it's not new and you wouldn't buy it over the 9070

>>105566377
try looking at a radiator and I can get cheaper and new car radiators, with a fucking fan included. why shouldn't I?

>>105566386
>and you wouldn't buy it over the 9070
true. insane how it went up in price.

will we ever see MSRP 5090s before the end of Kali Yuga?

what's the total cost of a god tier pc rig with at least a 5090 and 32gb fastest speed ram? Can be either gayMD or Shintel but I'd prefer Shintel

>>105566428
$4000.00+

>>105566214
It has like double the hardware and performs 50% faster

>>105563312
I heard DLSS doesn't work.

>>105566428
> god tier
$5,000++

>>105566314
They will never replace my 20TB HDDs.

>>105566428
5090 : 2.4k €
9800x3d, mobo, ddr5 : 750€
cpu cooler : 40€
fractal north case: 150€
1000w psu : 170€
2tb 990 pro ssd : 170€
total: 3680€

for gaming thats the best possible config with a 32" 4k qd oled display
you can spend more on a productivity focused build but you wouldnt see more fps in game

any news on 16th shittel? Any reason to upgrade my 10700K?

>>105566605
> news on 16th shittel?
no
>Any reason to upgrade my 10700K?
9800x3d exists

I'll replace thermal paste and liquid metal of a friend's laptop, I found the pic related online where the guy replaced both dies with PTM. Can I use regular thermal paste for the CPU with liquid metal on? Thermalright's Helios is also available as a PTM alternative but I suppose I need to cut it to size. The other option is the good ol' reliable MX-6.

>>105565984
> 5070 Ti 16gb - $843
spotted the deal

>>105566618
use ptm for both chips

will am6 have pcie5 chipsets, finally?

>>105564310
Nta. Explain to me how to install DirectX12 Ultimate on Win10 IoT LTSC Enterprise and I will also lol, thank you.

>>105566636
I'll get Thermalright Helios then, I can order PTM from China but customs are a bitch to deal with here in Kebabistan. I wonder a single 30mm x 40mm pad will be enough to cover the both chips.

>>105566675
wtf is dx12 ultimate

>>105566633
5070 ti really the only "decent" all-round option in general now.

1. you'll want CUDA for random productivity shit so AMD is out. AFAIK they just suck compared to nvidia in Real Work™

2. the 60 class is sort of slow in general, like who really gives a shit about them. they get barely any faster every generation. anybody who needs that level of performance has already had it for several years. like nobody is upgrading from a 3060 to a 5060 ti.

3. 5070 12gb lol

4. anything above the 5070 ti is absurdly inflated and not worth it

>>105564135
I love my 4090 and waitfagging for the 6090.

>>105566688
It's DirectX version 12.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7bJ8GaJ5bw

>>105566736
I would to if I had a 4090. What are you hoping for out of the 6090?

>>105564506
Vampire Lord pc enthusiast

5090 prices are dropping fast. 2 weeks ago it was $3200 for an FE on marketplace, now it's under $2800. All the scalpers are lowering their prices below $3k in my area (bay area). I think I'll actually get one at MSRP within the next 2 months.

>>105566814
Path Tracing, 5k2k @120Hz

>>105566854
Well you better hope they get a connector that can take over 600w.

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BcdHfH
I only have a monitor and some random old keyboards and mice. I've never built a gaming PC before but I want to for my birthday next month.
>BUDGET
$1700
>COUNTRY
Canada

>>105566913
just put 2

>>105566918
5070 gpu, 5070 ti if you have more money
9600x cpu, 9800x3d if you have more money
am5 mobo with features you like (wifi), 32gb ddr5 ram, thermalright cooler
fractal north case
2tb nvme ssd, 990 pro or something
some 750w psu

>>105566923
They will probably do that again.

Buying this Monday. Arc is just there but when I get it I'm sticking my 5070ti in there

bros
i recently sniped a
>3090
for cheap, but my am4 cpu sucked major dick for it
>ryzen 5 5500
yet I managed to sell it just now (as advised by anons here in a previous thread)

currently i have the following options and prices to replace & upgrade:
>ryzen 7 5600 @165 USD
>ryzen 7 5600x @185 USD
>ryzen 7 5700 @160 USD
>ryzen 7 5700x @200 USD
>ryzen 7 5700x3d @295 USD
>ryzen 7 5800xt @225 USD
>ryzen 9 5900x @340 USD
>ryzen 9 5900xt @380 USD
i haven't much idea on cpu's
is there an outlier here that is a steal?
i'm leaning towards the 5800xt currently
have a cat btw

>>105566528
You heard wrong. If game has implementation it works. You can't force it tho.

>>105567200
5700X3D will give the best gaming performance

>>105567200
go am5 and 9800x3d instead of investing money into a dead platform

>>105567267
neat, thanks anon

>>105566559
So why are you complaining about a SATA SSD model being discontinued?

>>105567286
is it much of a difference vs the 5700x? also
>pic related
5800xt seems to create less cpu bottleneck, but consumes more (105W vs 65W)

>>105567292
can't
prices for anything am5 in my country are absolutely insane right now

>>105567300
NP
Nvidia drivers are really good on linux now. I don't think it matters which brand GPU you use anymore.
Fucking finally

>be me, jensen
>novideos
>have a cool 4080 gpu with new upscaling tech that increases frames further with more AI wizardry bullshit the engineers have been baking
>plan to release a 12gb version for 899 and a 16gb version for 1199.
>gamer community mad at me for introducing a 4080 12gb at all even if it's perfectly adequate for 1440p and 4k gaming
>spitting on my name
>disrespecting me
>have a new idea
>charge 1200 for my 4080 non super
>rename the 4080 12gb to the 4070ti super
>4080 super will have no performance uplift and the price will be the same on the market
>jensen thinks in his leather chair "im never selling another 80 class GPU under 1000 dollars again"
>50 series launches
>don't fix the flaming connector, make it worse because fuck you
>no vram increase, because fuck you
>8gb gpus because fuck you
>RTX 5070ti at 749.99 msrp is the same price class as the RTX 3080 in 2021, no more 80 class under 1000.
>gamers whine on reddit but my marketshare with jon peddie is still 92%
NVIDIA always wins.

>>105567200
depends on resolution and refresh rate desired. a 3090 at 1080p will get you like ~120fps AVG in modern games at maximum settings. so that's the benchmark

all of these CPUs should handle that, but:

5700 has only 16mb L3 cache so it's garbage and we'll ignore it. 5900x is only 12 core so id ignore it for that price.

5600, 5600x, 5700x, and 5800x, and 5800xt are going to give you basically the same performance in games and should handle the 3090 without bottlenecking. 5900xt will be a touch faster in games. then there's productive applications, which might need more cores, et cetera... basically do you need a 6 core, 8 core, or 16 core CPU?

5700x3d would be significantly faster in games, but slower outside of games than the other options. the 3090 is basically as fast as a 4070, which wouldn't really take advantage of a 5700x3d

if you plan on playing at 1440p or 4K, the X3D is even more useless.

consult the charts in these for some recent data, but these aren't exact

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/17.html

you want the cpu to be significantly faster than your GPU. 720p reduces bottleneck and creates an artificial environment to find how fast they really are.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-9060-xt-reaper-8-gb/31.html

>>105567200
5700x3d for gaming. 5900xt for gaming and productivity like streaming n shit.

>>105567359
>if you plan on playing at 1440p or 4K, the X3D is even more useless.
I disagree respectfully, having a better CPU gives you better performance when using something like DLSS quality or DLSS performance since it's rendering at 1440p or 1080p (performance) so it's not entirely true that x3d won't help at 4k.

>>105567327
at 1440p and above, the bottleneck is usually at the gpu
x3d would improve 1% lows, the 5700x/5800xt can makes up for it with faster ram

>>105567327
>bottleneck calculator
get cancer retarded nigger

>>105567327
don't use bottleneck calculators

the 5800xt is just a highly binned 5700x. it's worth like 6% more money.

>>105567349
Actually, 8gb VRAM is perfectly fine. Majority of gamers play on 1080p monitors.

>PCIe 28-pin (2x12+4) Ultra High Power, rated for 1500W
Adapter connects to two 2x6 connectors. For compatibility with older PSUs with only one or no native 12v-2x6, another two adapters are included to convert to three 8 pins (pigtail connections may work depending on expected draw). Primary adapter contains its own voltage regulation and balancing, hence some special stands or GPU-mounted hanging hooks are developed to hold that weight up and keep it away from any case floor fans. Wire gauge on the final lines increased from 16 to perhaps 14.

>>105567200
5700x3d if you only care about maximum FPS in video games. this is the only one that would feel like a proper upgrade from the 5500 in games.

5900xt if you do real multi-threaded work on your computer and need 16 CPU cores

5700x or 5800xt if you want something that's fine and gets the job done in both games and normal desktop software

>>105567359
>>105567365
>>105567383
>>105567467
i'll be mainly doing gaming and ai sloppa
i think the ryzen 9 might be excessive
and for +35 USD i get 2 (+33%) extra cores going from a 2600 to a 2700x
so that leaves
>ryzen 7 5700x @200 USD
>ryzen 7 5800xt @225 USD
the 5800xt consumes 60% more TDP and the performance gain seems minimal

>>105567393
>>105567400
yeah it's a piece of trash and don't trust it so that's why i came and asked here

have more cots

>>105563410
>Sticky is recommending not only a Noctua cooler, but the latest and greatest with the price premium
It's a once in a lifetime purchase, like buying a nice set of silverware. Unlike AIO's or watercoolers which are constantly breaking down and potentially destroying your pc. Air cooling just works, like a classic muscle car it will never go out of style and only gets better with time.

>>105567403
There's no need to release a new 8gb card when there's already millions of them on the market

>>105567516
if you mainly want games then the 57x3d is the only real choice. the AI stuff is all GPU so pretty irrelevent i think

all of the other options would be like...10-20% upgrade on your 5500. 5700x3d would be closer to like 40-50% upgrade. like i said it depends on the FPS you plan on going for, what games you play, the settings you use, and resolution.

>>105563481
>This is a daily reminder that you should be upgrading to a 4k OLED
I sit too far away from my screen to be able to see a difference in pixel size. A 1080p is just as clear to me as 4k.
Also I am a professional neet, oled is not viable for someone who spends 16-20 hours a day on a computer.

Steam Deck lost

>>105566618
Asus g15? Saw this exact pic in a guide.

>Nvidia's first CPU prototype is already tied with a 9800X3D.

oh nonononono it's about to be over for you AMDcels in the CPU market just like the GPU one.

>>105564090
>Tandem OLED's will be upon us very soon
What the hell is Tandem OLED?

>>105567563
20 core matching a 8 core in MT isn't impressive. The single core is pretty good though

>>105567563
It's our year Geekbench 6 bros

>>105567544
but the 5700x3d +100 USD over the 5700x
i alternate between 1080p and 1440p
i do play some cpu-intensive games like factorio and path of exile but not always

Just do the 5700x3d bro. it's faster than some AM5 cpus.

>>105567572
One for you, one for the desk behind you

>>105567588
just get an X3D vro

>>105567529
AMD did just that.
Also, that's dumb, anon. You do know that newer cards offer more than just VRAM, right?

>>105565984
>9070 XT 16gb - $730
The cheapest xt on amazon right now is 820 dollars.

>>105567599
>>105567683
fug it's gone
well, i got time so i'll wait

how cumbersome is it to RMA a product, the mouse wheel on my razer viper ultimate V2 is super messed up, no matter how many times i turn it upside down and move it back and forth it doesnt fix itself, I only got it like 7 months ago

Am I gonna regret putting my fanhub on the side of my PSU?

>>105567774
not that bad, usually 1 to 2 weeks turnaround after they receive it back. broken mouse is actually the easiest since u can fish out an old mouse to use while yours is broken unless u don't own a second one. they're pretty cheap on amazon for 10 bucks if u need a mouse while its gone.

>>105567774
Better hope you never get a broken Pulsar product. My pulsar mouse left click died a week after the amazon return period ended. Took me almost another month to get a replacement. They made me send in two separate videos using some website to prove that my mouse wasn't working. All that time I had to wait for various korean holidays and such to end to get a response and it was back and forth for weeks.

Looking at monitors, assuming the same response time, panel type, and refresh rate, what exactly is the benefit to using an ultrawide/super ultrawide vs a regular 16:9 when the resolutions are usually so much lower? Wouldn't the amount of pixels on a standard 16:9 4k be way higher and thus more detailed games compared to a 21:9 1440 monitor? Is it just the "feel" of it similar to going from 4:3 to 16:9?

>>105567801
unless the fanhub blocks the fan you should be fine
i'd be more worried about your dusty case

Good day builderGODS

>>105567527
>cope the post
custom loop Chads keep winning

>>105567688
Performance that you can't take advantage of in many newer games that need >8gb ram you mean

>buy msrp 5070ti shadow
>put waterblock on it
>45c max temp
im cuming

>>105563206 (OP)
>ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b
this is only for 6000-series gpu right?

>>105568124
ignore the OP it’s made by a deranged Indian fanboy

imma flex my geekbench 6 vulkan score and laugh at the 9070xt at the bottom of the chart lol lmao i love my new PC

>>105568029
until I actually pull the trigger I'm still just an online shoppingcel

>>105567516
ai and gaming are at odds. moar cores helps ai stuff.

>>105568159
yeah, guess I'm gonna get a 7900xtx. Have a microcenter nearby so it's $1k for xtx vs $830 for a 9070xt.

>>105568383
dumb decision

>>105568383
dumb decision, will age worse because no FSR4

if i have a docking station with a bunch of peripherals connected, will plugging it into a gpu with usbc give me the mouse and keyboard input as well? im looking for a mini itx build i can plug in like a laptop to a docking station with one cable

>>105568395
>>105568387
>you NEED fake frames!
no thanks, I don't like smeared dogshit in my games from pre-2010.

>>105568470
niggas don’t een know the difference between fake frames and upscaling these days

>>105568479
>alternating fake and real frames vs 100% fake, upscaled frames is totally different guyz

>>105568565
cope department

>>105568470
just use your integrated graphics if you play old games

>mess around 5080 overclocking
>10% gain with minimum effort, no need to mess with the curve or excessive power/temperature.
Wtf was nvidia doing? They did not release card with this much headroom for a while. Not counting the mess of drivers they released this year.

>>105568619
the housfires are FREE - GRATIS in mexican

>>105568619
It's great for the 5070ti. 10% can close the gap between it and the 5080. This video is the best example on how powerful a simple OC is on the 50 series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgMlLuPSHY8&t=8s Try out undervolting too. You can get close to OC clock speeds while using a lot less power.

>>105568619
>>105568740
Every GPU from AMD/Intel/Nvidia gains 10-15% from OC. They don't get anymore than that since they're power limited unless you do modding. So most people end up undervolting instead of overclocking. You lose 3-5fps but you end up saving 50-120w. It's especially noticeable on AMD where there's no fucking point going above 3ghz when 2.7ghz is basically same fps.

>>105567801
I don't see why it wouldn't work on the backplate just above it, but no.

Have a 2080 super and want to upgrade. But the 5070ti and 5080 don't feel right for me at this price. 1200€ for a GPU with 16 gigs seems ridiculous to me. I want to have some future proofing but 16 gigs is just not it.

Should I wait for next generation?

>>105568771
wait for next gen or the mid-gen refresh (5080 super), swoop up 5070tis or 5080s for less than msrp. could also buy the 5080 super with 24gb of vram for 1499(?) which will basically be a weaker 4090. 9070xt and the 9070 are a good option if you don't care for CUDA meme, DLSS, and you don't use Blender.

>>105568159
How do I run this benchmark. I tried it twice and it only tests my cpu. I want vulkan benchmark!!!

Looking for a decent ATX AM5 mobo and taking availability into account (Amazon will rape me with tariffs so that's a bad option) I narrowed it down to these
>ASRock X870 Pro RS
>Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7
>ASRock B850 Riptide WiFi
Thoughts? They're all in the 280-310 bucks range, I could maybe go up another 20 bucks to get an Asrock B650E steel series but I'd rather avoid it. Heard Gigabyte has some m.2 lane issues apparently?

>CPU: ryzen 7 9800X3D
>GPU: rtx 5080
>MOBO: ASUS TUF gaming B-850 plus wifi
>RAM: 64 GB Kingston Fury Beast
>SSD: 2 TB Kingston KC3000 M.2
>COOLer: beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 5
>Case: beQuiet Shadow Base 800 FX
850W should be enough right?

>>105568893
why did you stop buying intel?

>>105568893
yes, but you want to run the PSU at around 40-50% load for max efficiency (buying a bigger PSU will save you money after ~1 year if your electricity is relatively expensive like in CA or europe)

>>105566040
if possible return it and ask for another one, it's probably not your fault unless you used gorilla retard strength to slot the card in, probably just defective.

>>105568865
./geekbench6 --compute vulkan

>>105568779

Is 24 enough though? Don't understand why Nvidia doesn't slap 32 gigs on it at this price. (It's probably greed)

>>105568962
Just pony up 10,000 dollars for the AI card, goyim.

>>105568906
I never even began. At least if you exclude the shitty laptop I got for Uni 7 years ago
>>105568912
Didn't consider that, yeah I'll get a 1000W then. Thank you anon, now I'm good to go

>>105568748
My stock card seems to max out at ~2850 Mhz according to Afterburner (using ye olde Heaven while paused). Did the usual UV procedure but targeted 975 mV and pulled the curve up to ~3050 or so. Card settles on ~3030 Mhz, +5~10 FPS (140 to 150 on a scene or about +5%), minus 3~4 celsius. My card only allows 106% power limit however. It can go higher but its not reliable if I push it too much.

>>105568190
lmao

https://streacom.com/products/sg10-fanless-gaming-pc-case/
Sirs this looks so fucking cool !!! How big of a scam is it

>>105568159
I got over 650 points in this benchmark. 2012 Intel graphics strong.

>>105569228
>tiktok edit
cringe zoomer

>>105569228
>claiming rendering is better on AMD
what curry munching shit skin jeet made this

>>105568875
Asrock boards are killing chips so get the gigabyte board.

>>105569254
>Poop is bad so you ead shit instead
Never buy shartbyte anything

>>105568875
Check the manual if there is any mentioning regarding lane sharing with m2s. Some secondary slots tend to use the gpu lanes reducing it from 16 to 8. Assrock is kinda unpopular cause of the dead 9800x3d but they might have found the root cause for this. Something with the PBO value being too high? I don't know haven't read into it recently

>>105569171
Basically, you will highly-likely need to do what they show on their page. But the concept of single huge rad is cool, ngl. I would not buy tho without trusted reviews and real temp tests.
>The core technology that makes this possible is the Evaporator, it features a patented solid state (no moving parts) capillary pump that creates a pressurised vapour flow into the condenser, where it cools back into a liquid then flows to the evaporator where the cycle repeats.
It also has some proprietary pump. Pump is the pump - if it fucks up, well you need to buy the whole thing.
A lot of kewl claims, but sounds and looks too good to be true unless proved otherwise by competent and real tests.

>>105569246
>>105569228
>loses vulkan performance to NVIDIA
>Vulkan was literally designed for AMD
lol the cope is too strong with these videos

>>105569268
>t. Gigabyte deranged schizo
Works on my machine

>>105569228
Lol
>streaming
Streaming on AMD has been borderline imposaible at anything higher than 720p until the 9070XT and Nvdia still has the better video enckder
>rendering
LMAO

Stick at your bing bing wahoo ayymd

>>105569268
What the fuck do I buy then? I saw an MSI that's in my budget but I also saw complaints when I googled it

>>105569269
I'd rather avoid Asrock if that's the case then, I was considering it because I saw a lot of people hyping up the B650. I've seen reports for and against the Gygabyte lane sharing so I'll check the manual

>>105569280
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/gigabyte-leaky-gpu-problem-continues-heres-the-thermal-putty-creep-in-action

>>105569286
Enjoy your 5070 performance broh

How bad of an idea are the following pairings:
2700x with a asrock a320m ac motherboard
3700x with a a520m chink motherboard
I fear the VRMs getting too hot

>>105569280
NTA but you done fucked up. You'll just have to learn the hard way in about a year or so. Good luck.

>>105569293
>Talk about motherboards
>Bring up unrelated GPUs

Enjoy your 4080 laptop GPU broh

>>105569312
My z390 gigabyte boards and 4090 have been fine though
All brands occasionally make bad products but that doesn't mean all their products are bad

>>105569333
It's not just the products being poorly built but the support and RMA for gigabyte is truly the worst if you ever need their help.

>>105569274
There are a few but I'd rather buy something from a Google ad rather than listen to LTT reviews or such. As for the added fans necessity... that probably won't be so silent then lol. Plus I see that you need to buy special plates from them for GPUs and they will most likely heavily lag behind new releases since it's on a request basis. Still it's a cool gimmick that I will probably impulse buy and then regret

>>105569228
>price Nvidia
How tf is Nvidia here better? Unless you win if you're more expensive
>FPS
>wake up
So having better FPS is bad because..?

lmaoing@amdshill'spatheticlifekekerinodiddlydoo
get a real job besides seething in a thread where nobody listens to you

>>105569296
Now how much of this is just because of cuda for AI?

>>105569343
I doubt they're worse than Asus who kept me waiting for an rma on a very premium motherboard that eventually took 5 months to conclude

>>105569307
Both are garbage, don't buy old crap

>>105569368
>>105569368
>>105569368

>>105569373
thanks for not answering my question

>>105569390
he did answer your question though, both are dogshit PCs you'd give your kid to play fortnite.

>>105569412
No the question was "Will these CPUs overload the VRMs?"

>>105569454
aight
they're cheap mobos but i doubt a 3700x will be a problem for your vrms. worst comes to worst you'll need to undervolt your CPU if you're stuck with these parts.

>>105568053
Why you're imposing your use case? For majority of players who play competitive games on 1080p monitors this is completely fine. If you need more you buy GPU with more VRAM.

What's the safest 5080 brand to buy? No asus or gigashart please.

> tfw my wife just gave me a RTX 5070
feels good to have a good girl. Upgrading from a 3070