Thread 105564057

Google discontinued AOSP.
The only option now is Linux phone which can only play audio/video player at best.
It's fucking over.

what is there even left to do on mobile at this point?
graphene should be happy, no one really needs jewgle anymore, now there is even more impetus to build a separate ecosystem away from the kike
i'm going to be moving to graphene soon

>>105564057 (OP)
now that you can sideload software on ios, what's the point of android?

>>105564091
All the apps will be still following the jewlgle standard, so GrapheneOS and derivatives will be like Linux phones without any usage outside playing media.
>>105564109
All your files are still uploaded to ze cloud to be scanned for "harmful content".

>>105564170
>All the apps will be still following the jewlgle standard, so GrapheneOS and derivatives will be like Linux phones without any usage outside playing media.
i don't think you get that apps don't have to follow jewgle if they're not being published to jewgle play store
literally just start a new fucking ecosystem, burn fdroid to the ground and start a new one that is less gay and autismo

>>105564091
>just build a completely new os for free that no incels will pay for but make constant rabid frothing at the mouth demands of
yeah i'm sure they'll get right on that

Graphene trannies and other rom troons finally BTFO for good.
Just buy an iPhone if you want privacy and security.

it is microshafts time to bring back windows fone

>>105564057 (OP)
jew

>>105564057 (OP)
>grapheneOS
Aren’t those guys stalking people that are using their OS?
I remember someone stalking Louis’s comments on YouTube and asking him to delete em

>>105564109
The point of android is that it is not apple. On top of that sideloading on iOS is not all that great.

>>105564296
this
apple isnt an ad company so they have zero need for data harvesting

>>105564057 (OP)
AOSP is not discontinued, they're just not officially supporting AOSP Android 16 on pixel phones. That's it.
I'd guess it's for dedicated AI hardware they don't want to release blobs for.

some nerd will keep android 15 alive forever

>>105564435
>diarrhea is not vomit

>>105564467
Nobody is buying your pajeet fruitniggerslop.
>>105564492
Blobs are still the part of stock images and can be extracted anyway, however if they stop publishing AOSP code, it's over for all custom ROMs except shitty ports.

>>105564578
NTA
But Apple’s liquid glass isn’t frutiger aero, it’s finally something new

>>105564057 (OP)
Can't AOSP be forked?

>>105564109
Being built with a clear structure and an open source kernel* was the biggest benefit.
Now only thing that remains is that its cheaper I guess

>>105564091
I think also issuing an open source license stating your code will be open forever, then reniggering on that after many companies have built their platforms on that contract is not only wrong but possibly illegal atleast civilly.

>>105564109
How?

Can AOSP be forked? As long as Google Play continues to be emulated/sandboxed i don't really give a fuck.

>>105564731
This will be challenged in EU courts. You can't create a whole platform off the back of open source efforts and then reneg on that because of a restructuring.

They're doing this because of the EU but the EU will challenge this too.

>>105564057 (OP)
I used to know a retard that ran Android as his desktop OS. Complete retard of a man.

>>105564467
>>105564296
You must be joking. Apple harvests more user data than anyone. It's anonymized, but thanks to their ecosystem being so self-contained, the only thing your profile doesn't have is your name. Which is useless.
If you really believe Apple is a privacy company, I'm afraid I have to tell you you drank the coolaid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c8UrgGG3NA

>>105564940
Hey, if it works for him, it works for him.

Also Google is making an official desktop mode for Android, so you could say he was ahead of the curve on this one.

https://9to5google.com/2025/06/10/android-16-desktop-mode-first-look/

>>105564187
>literally just start a new fucking ecosystem
It's just that simple! I'll get to work on the logo. You guys can handle the other stuff.

huawei save me...
huawei
save me huawei

>>105564057 (OP)
Source?
I don't trust random faggots

isn't it just google not accepting commits but releasing source code?

>>105564979
>(((anonymized)))
they set their differential privacy budget to an useless value

>>105564711
>>105564785
the problem is driver updates

>>105564109
Android doesn't look like liquid ass.

>>105564109
there's no equivalent of ublock origin for ios. so it's useless.

>>105564731
>>105564872
Software licenses only affect the licensed software unless there's a specific clause extending it to derivatives. There is nothing requiring Google to develop Android forever, this is just like if they dropped Android development entirely and started making their own closed-source skin just like every hardware manufacturer.

>>105564057 (OP)
Googlee googlee googlee

>>105564979
>Braxman
This dude is a con. How can people seriously listen to what this lunatic scammer has to say about cybersecurity/privacy?

>>105564057 (OP)
How would they got closed source? Replace the kernel?

>>105565194
The kernel is the only part of the system that's GPL. They'd have to publish sources for it and nothing else. Until they swap to the Fuschia kernel, at least.

>>105565217
fuschia has been dropped like 3 years ago buddy

>>105565089
ios is good to use as an actual phone it is better to have a phone for its intended purpose and nothing else

>>105564578
>if they stop publishing AOSP code
Android 16 was literally pushed as AOSP code. The google device section doesn't have an update for android 16, that's it.
In fact the mass majority of devices in the AOSP device code tree didn't get android 16 updates, most of them are still on <v10. Why the fuck are there asus and moto device trees with Android 5.1 still in the official AOSP code tree?
Device specific support should not be in the AOSP source code. It should be sources to build a GSI only and Google should make a separate repo for patches to their devices, as should all other manufacturers that want source available OS.

>>105564296
>>105564467
>buy an iPhone if you want privacy and security
>apple isnt an ad company
jesus christ, how green are u two?

>>105565230
Firing 1/6th of the devs is not the same as canceling it.

>>105565166
>attacking the messenger

>>105564057 (OP)
Can't honestly believe that anons commenting here that this is a good thing.. that absolute state

>>105565233
I have a little use for walkie-talkie but a *lot* of use of a web browser in a convenient form factor.
I guess it is different if you are a sales rep or a woman or something.

>>105565818
i dont want a stupid phone interfering with my browser use

>>105565833
exactly. and there was no better mobile browser than firefox+ublock origin on android.

>>105565841
yeah thats why i wouldnt use ios for anything but a phone their ecosystem is a disaster for anything else. i use pc and android for everything else

>>105565233
whats the point of iphone over a dumb phone then

>>105566030
where else do you get the blue bubble?

>>105566030
it is very secure ootb moreso than the alternatives and i buy them like new second hand dirt cheap from major phone resellers. theres no reason not to use them

>>105564170
>Linux phones without any usage outside playing media.
Remote attestation will litearlly mean your phone is a useless brick, unless you run closed systems like GoogleOS, iOS, etc.

>>105566102
what if i find an exploit to spoof remote attestation

>>105566121
You'd be a gigachad, but that's probably not happening in a long time (if ever)

>>105566121
those things are getting hard and harder to find. at some point they might stop altogether. there hasn't been an unpatchable iPhone jailbreak in a looooong time and for patchable ones "your iOS version isn't supported. please upgrade to support latest Vaccine Passport App"

>>105566195
i think that has more to do with the fact the ios ecosystem isn't worthwhile to jailbreak

>>105564057 (OP)
The only based option nowadays is using an old dumbphone.

I can't believe I see this thread right after ordering a used pixel phone for use with graphmeme.

>>105566294
old dumbphones don't work anymore

>>105566402
AOSP is open bruh, you can start doing shit yourself with it. nobody takes it away. only new shit becomes closed. just do the new shit yourself

>>105564057 (OP)
Just use an iphone

>>105564057 (OP)
What exactly does the aosp do?

>>105565089
>there's no equivalent of ublock origin for ios
that's because you can just use ublock origin

>>105566431
Says who? I still use them willy-nilly.

>>105566525
the android thing

>>105566601
is orion still crappy?

>>105564296
their new theme gives me the ick

>>105565217
Zircon is the Kernel

>>105565230
https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+log

>>105566625
2G has been disabled for months/years in many countries.

>>105564578
>pajeet fruitniggerslop
It's just Windows 7 Aero. The fact that it's being panned by the win7babbyducks on/g/ is proof /g/ doesn't have any actual standards other than to be contrarian.

>>105564057 (OP)
can someone tell me what AOSP is and what is so special about it? is it the base Android system? the open-source parts? if so, what does it mean it's been "discontinued", and what does that imply?

>>105566645
its always worked for me

>>105566875
and is still widely used in other countries

>>105564109
you cant sideload software on iOS. You still have to upload the app to the appstore and get it signed by apple, but you can now put an appstore link on your own website to start the appstore download. It basicaly just allows you to distribute unlisted apps via the appstore. You absolutely can NOT compile and run your own software on an iphone.

>>105566875
It's used for voice, here

>>105565269
So, it's a nothingburger and anons are just sperging because muh autism or what?

>>105567191
that's even worse. 2G is not secure at all. anyone could intercept your comms with a $500 laptop and a cheap full-duplex SDR device

>"freetard software is le bad"
>worst android release of all time will be proprietary
really makes you think

>>105564057 (OP)
Retards like you could never handle mainline with ofono. Not even Sailfish with Waydroid or LXC Containers is comprehensible to you, give up.

>>105567205
>grapheneos schizo has an "informant" saying android is going closed source soon
>"first thing they'll do is not push android 16 to pixel repos"
>android 16 doesn't get pushed to pixel repos
>omgggg that means everything this "informant" says is trueeee
That's what's happening. GrapheneOS and Calyx relied heavily on the pixel builds they apply their own patches to so they'll have to figure out a new way to patch but this doesn't effect the rest of AOSP or any other device except pixels running these custom roms.
I have no idea why google did this but leave it to nu-/g/ to make a mountain out of a molehill.

he was right

>>105567592
>I have no idea why google did this but leave it to nu-/g/ to make a mountain out of a molehill.
they have been closing sourcing android for well over a decade, shitloads of crap that used to be part of aosp got replaced with google's proprietary crap, it would be abnormal if google changed course instead of continuing closing android up to killing off aosp

>>105567623
the google botnet stuff has been considered a separate thing from AOSP for a long time now, pivoting to android being fully nonfree is in fact a huge pivot. but like anon said there's no actual evidence they're doing this
what's far more likely is that google is just trying to be subtler about the dev process to avoid scrutiny since they fired all of the competent people and hired a bunch of jeets and women

>>105567617
it is true ms is relatively the good guy in this day and age

>>105567656
Intel is the lesser evil here. MS actually tries to make x86 Linux-hostile, it just didn't work.

>>105564694
>new
i saw it on windows vista already

how could this have happened?

Android? What's that? Don't you mean Google PixelOS exclusive to Google Pixel devices?

Bringing back Tizen phones when Samsung?

>>105565400
Braxman sells cheapo off the shelf chinese phones with preloaded LineageOS and microG for double the original price.
He claims that it's more secure than GrapheneOS and Pixels because you don't have to unlock the bootloader since his "super secure and private" Android fork is installed by default.
No secure chip is present on these phones, no security features besides the AOSP ones are present, no hardening is done at either the software and firmware level.

>>105567617
I've been saying this fors but ARMniggers are too dumb to get it

>>105564057 (OP)
i think the pixel team just dislikes open sourcing their device tree since its not part of AOSP and is really just their own work, which is unfortunate but understandable considering most device trees are closed-source aswell. i wish the best for the pixel custom ROM scene

>>105569233
replying to myself but i'd also like to elaborate that between google play integrity API which make alot of apps un-usable if you don't pass strong integrity, and googles recent decision to "streamline" androids development by focusing their development efforts on the internal branch (see https://www.androidauthority.com/google-android-development-aosp-3538503/) things haven't been looking too great for custom ROMS. but ASOP is not "discontinued", atleast not yet.

>>105564418
No they aren't stalking anyone.
Daniel Micay is an schizo sperg, he designed a whole build infrastructure for reproducible builds. It's open source so feel free to build it yourself if you're worried.
Louis was just out sperging and out schizoing the schizo sperg and proving he's retarded.

>>105566195
If this was true, you'd never need to updoot.
>4chan didn't get hacked until a 0-day in PHP was found in 2025!

>>105569377
most updates fix apps. secure element updates are rare.

>>105569545
Kernel CVEs happen all the time, including privilege escalation.
An outdated Android would be trivial to root just by using a public CVE.
The same is true for iOS, but it's not open source so the vulnerabilities are not publicly posted.
It just means you have to do more work to find the exploits, which is why >>105566216 is correct.
BlackHats will hoard the vulnerabilities and nobody is putting time/money/effort into finding them for consumer benefit.

>>105566030
the only real reason is ecosystem and once you are in you cant get out

>>105564057 (OP)
We fukken warned you about google bro
we warned you

>>105564057 (OP)
Serious questions - where can I find a developer European or American who would take on the task of porting Dino IM (the xmpp client) to ubuntu touch. And what would be fair amount of money for the task?

>>105564057 (OP)
>The only option now is Linux phone
freedom was always the only option.

>>105569377
4chan was hacked with an 0-day? How soon after the discovery?

>>105565626
it is a good thing. now people have to actually consider GNU + Linux phone.

>>105567749
>Closed system as alternative to no longer open system
/G/

>>105567666
>*TrieD
Ftfy
Ms is actually embedding linux in windows rn

>>105567551
I mean it's used only for voice, but guess only as last resource
https://geo.anacom.pt/publico/home (under layers, cobertura, rede móvel)

>>105564694
>frutiger
fuck off zoomer

>>105567617
based

>>105564057 (OP)
AOSP won't go proprietary, it's just a far-right conspiracy theor-AAAAAAAAAACK!

>>105571419
No I was making a joke.
They got hacked with a 10 year old ghostscript vulnerability and a 10 year old FreeBSD privilege escalation because Hiro didn't updoot.

>>105572587
anon, did you try reading what you posted?

>>105572587
That was about something else, though Google's trajectory has been clear for a long time

>>105572750
no, it's too long

>>105564578
>Nobody is buying your pajeet fruitniggerslop
that looks amazing for an early beta for developer, right Ranjesh? yes you know it, India is the #1 Android nation, with over 97% market share saar!

>>105573175
it looks like the color of your skin - shit

>>105567617
this

>>105567656
MS was never good, it's just that ARM, apple, jewgle, facegoy and everyone else became 100000000000x more evil than MS ever was

>>105564578
there is no way this is real, is it? what the fuck?

Can you guys not even take 5 seconds to do a google/bing/ddg/yandex/whatever search?
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-not-killing-aosp-3566882/

The only thing being removed are the Pixel device trees.

>>105573746
Cool, so AOSP runs on an emulator and no real phone!

>>105571400
I never >touched ubuntu touch, so I don't know what development looks like on that platform, but assuming it would take about a month or a bit more, I could look into it for about $3k
European btw.
If ubuntu touch can support gtk out of the box then maybe it would require less effort, but I bet you'd basically have to do the entire GUI from scratch.

>>105564578
aosp framework inevitably evolves away from blob.
you will be able keep the android 15 blobs on life support for a few more generations of aosp
inevitably the framework becomes too different anymore
inb4: wrappers. even then it only buys you time before the end
i suppose nobody cares after so many years since we live in throwaway consumer culture

>>105574317
What about porting an android app, like conversations?

>>105573461
thistbhfam

>>105576437
idk, maybe try https://invent.kde.org/network/kaidan

>>105576290
graphene hardware wen

>>105567656
no corpo is the good guy, retard

>>105573123
lol

Wouldn't be happening if Cuck Torvalds adopted the GPL3. Can't wait to see Red Hat Tivo Linux within a decade.

>>105564109
Sideloading apps doesn't change core functionality. I expect to be able to use my phone as a proper computer. iOS seems to be designed from the ground-up to prevent that.

>>105577625
Only the customized kernel builds are GPL by necessity, the rest of AOSP isn't copyleft. They probably wouldn't have been able to get away with that since manufacturers love shitting up Android for branding.

>>105564057 (OP)
sad to see but the writing has been on the wall since the early 10s when jewgle increasingly started to ship new android features within their proprietary google packages instead of aosp

>>105564057 (OP)
Google discontinued driver source code releases for Pixels, that's all. AOSP isn't going anywhere.
At worst it's the end of GrapheneOS.

>>105579187
graphmeme will just lift the drivers from pixel firmware images if they have to

>>105564057 (OP)
It's time to give up tech

>>105579275
Not my problem anyway. You fell for Pixel meme - you get what you fucking deserve.

>>105579309
name literally anything better

>>105579313
Sony

>>105579333
I have a pixel running graphene and an experia. The experia runs well but I hate the narrow screen.

>>105564494
How? Its not like you can install android 15 on new devices that came out after.

>>105564872
>They're doing this because of the EU

can you explain what you mean?

Lot of frogs getting boiled in this thread, no idea why anyone has any trust in Google nowadays.

what happened to phones would have happened to personal computers as well if not for rms
unfortunately corpos hijacked the hacker culture and twisted it into an awful monstrosity, just to make sure another rms is never born

>>105564057 (OP)
literally what are people sperging about, google ALREADY killed custom roms by requiring locked bootloader for simple play store integrity

>>105580240
It's not tied to bootloader, and google allows you to lock and unlock it at will anyway. It was kind of bad before, but now it's completely dead.

>>105568932
You have no arguments besides licensing about why your lobotomized wrapper for a risc architecture is superior to arm

>>105564057 (OP)
>>105564492
Threadly reminder that the Graphene dev is a skizo autist, and liar.

>>105564057 (OP)
>Googlee
he's seething kek

>>105579333
lololol
captcha: 08DRM

>>105567617
based

>>105580240
you can lock the bootloader on custom roms it is up to the custom rom to implement

>>105564492
It's probably because the judge is choosing which part of Google they will be forced to sell.
Android and Chrome (including Chromecast, Chromebooks and ChromeOS) are on the table, the judge needs to pick either one or even both.

>>105582943
The only officially supported vendor for Sailfish btw.
You got any better options?

>>105585262
No, no phone is safe from proprietary baseband backdoors