goodnight sweat prince

>>105574513 (OP)
what didn't happen?

>>105574714
My penis hurts and is red for some reason

>>105574798
so the thing that didn't happen is you cumming? That's very technological

>>105574714
Google isn't going to publish Android source code anymore.

>>105574867
... for pixels

>>105574867
I was just planning getting into open source phone OS. I guess the latest available version will be my last version. Give me 1 useful thing that was implemented in the last 5 years in the core Android system. I'll wait.

>>105574897
Oh. This is what happens when I get my news from /g/. Still, doesn't that kill Graphene if it's based on the source code for the Pixel's OS updates?

>>105574897
ffs
>>105574867
fuck you

>>105574914
they need to port a lot of shit and reverse engineer the rest to a point where they're looking for alternative OEMs
supposedly google is trying to take pixels with them after losing anti trust case and splitting android and chrome from the company

>>105574923
What did I do?

>>105574979
i dont know who that is but there's some feral retard invading every grapheneos thread and i'm not sure if it's a calyx os literal tranny or some mossad intel well poisoner because grapheneos is the only OS that consistently can't be hacked for extended periods of time

>>105574979
I thought Google made the whole Android closed source fr fr

>>105575006
>grapheneos is the only OS that consistently can't be hacked for extended periods of time
what did grapheneos even do other than enabling some flags that developers already put it there? do you think some megaautist working for undercover government agencies can't break into whatever software currently there is? what's your thought about grapheneos and all those "secure" projects that choose put blind trust on megacorp like intel's bootguard or whatever arm's version is for core root of trust? do you know your verified boot key is literally in the hands of them, because that's how it's indended to work (protection against evil maid)

>>105575282
i wont entertain you but i hope you dont regret the time you spent shitting out that post

>>105574513 (OP)
Why buy Android if it's locked and lacks the developer community? Apple doesn't locked hardware and software miles better.

>>105575781
Does*

>>105575781
99% of people dont care, pixels are getting popular because they have 90% discounts a week after launch and shit not because you can install some custom rom on it

>>105575350
>no argument

>>105575810
Pixels were positively shilled not for their hardware, performance or battery life but for their software, gcam and open nature. I never owned a pixel so I don't mind Google digging it's own grave.

>Google just rug pulled GrapheneOS/CalyxOS Pixel owners
Can't say I didn't consider this possible when I got mine for Graphene but it still shook me up a lil...

>>105575887
correct - as i've stated which you wouldve figured out if you were able to speak english

>>105574867
they not gonna provide some blobs or sum shit, they're not even closing aosp source

>>105574513 (OP)
Was planning on buying a Pixel 10 but alas...

Lmao, literally bought a Pixel 8 Pro and installed GrapheneOS on it like a week ago.

>>105575282
https://grapheneos.org/features

>>105574513 (OP)
sweet*

>>105575781
Because Apple software is connected to and owned by Apple. As far as I know, you basically can't even access anything without an "Apple ID" account.
Meanwhile Graphene software is owned by yourself and connected to nobody. You CAN install gapps but you don't have to, and you can install them in another user profile, and they don't run as system apps. You don't need to log in or sign in to anything just to use your phone. It doesn't phone home anywhere by default except graphene's update servers, and you can turn that off (and honestly if google or apple just connected to me for OS updates I wouldn't even mind that much, it's the one thing you do anyway on every OS ever on an internet-connected machine, even on linux).

I want my own phone, not google's phone or apple's phone; and the options for that are pretty much just degoogled custom ROMs, such as graphene and lineageOS. But I also want a relatively stable and acceptably secure phone, and the options for that are pretty much just stock android, stock iOS, or graphene. Graphene was the only one that had the intersection of both.

>>105576288
It's true, it was always a possibility, but it's not like there were any alternatives.
I might have to go back to a dumbphone if they can't figure out a way to continue development.

>>105578732
i was going to buy a 9a...

>>105574513 (OP)
not just graphene
https://calyxos.org/news/2025/06/11/android-16-plans/

>>105574867
seriously could this Pixel phone i bought be any fucking gayer? I'm gonna write Google an email and ask them to buy it back, it's a horrendous pile of shit, and my iphone was 100 times better.

>>105580824
don't do it

whelp boys it was a good run
google deleted the reason to buy pixel

NOTHINGBURGER

>>105581627
Not a nothingburger, as I understand it they need to implement a bunch of driver shit now right?
Porting to device-less Android 16 means nothing when it can't run on any specific device.

>>105581627
>we had to waste effort on something that wasn't previously a resource sink
>"hah, nothingburger!!"
what is with you retards and uninformed reductionism

>>105574513 (OP)
>grapheneOS is a de-googled android
>but can only be installed on google pixel hardware
I love that I can identify retards with this one simple trick.

>>105582779
Which hardware are you afraid of specifically?

i dont like their stance on not updating older phones i think these graphene folks are mental cases

>>105584414
there is an astroturfing raiding campaign on /g/ every other week
if you werent retarded you'd know why older phones arent updated but if you need to have a phone for 8 years then i dont fuckign know whats your problem

>>105584785
i know the reason they give the problem is it's wrong and retarded to the max

>>105584802
yeah having to hack the device up and extracting blobs is not a valid reason to complain you fucking retard

The rumor is false, unless there was an update
>>105574513 (OP)

>>105584868
theres no good reason to stop releasing android security updates for older phones. an up to date security patched graphene would be more secure than 99% of the devices connected to the net. their reasoning is absolute nonsense

>"It’s unclear whether this is a delay or a policy change."

LEARN TO FUCKING READ, YOU PATHETIC FAGGOTS.

It is too early to conclude.

>>105574867
>Google isn't going to publish Android source code anymore.
AOSP is open source, will always be open source. the problem is google making their version of android in private, which everyone was using to get source code for various drivers and chipsets.

>>105584895
>OEM stops providing security patches for firmware
>this is somehow graphene's fault

>up to date security patched graphene would be more secure than 99% of the devices connected to the net
what is the point of making a ROM with full autist security focus just to support insecure phones
go use fucking lineage if you don't care about security or just want it to be "good enough" it's not fucking charity to make as many people happy as they can
>>105584918
read their twitter you fucking retard

>>105584988
graphene and all custom roms can continue releasing ANDROID security updates these are not proprietary chip updates retard graphene stops releasing them and their reasoning is horseshit

>>105585012
no shit you fucking retard they dont provide them after the OEM stops shipping firmware security patches are you stupid?

>>105585022
why dont they continue providing android security patches these are not tied to the vendor and improve security of older devices

>>105584868
doesn't work like that. you can extract whatever you like but you then have to map it all out - in total darkness btw - and each new version released of whatever you've ripped might change slightly, rendering your efforts instantly useless. what that would mean is that parts of the operating system wouldn't be able to be updated because of loss of functionality as some faggot needs to spend his time understanding this new "blob". retard.

>>105585043
the goal is to have a secure device, without firmware it wont be secure so there's no point wasting time updating it
>>105585050
i never claimed i know how that works
so do they just have a binary of a working ROM and then they try to find part of that binary that's useful and figure out what it does? how's the contradictory to what i've posted?
>parts of the operating system wouldn't be able to be updated because of loss of functionality
i dont understand what do you mean by this

>>105585100
>the goal is to have a secure device, without firmware it wont be secure
and that's wrong retard. graphene continues releasing android security patches long after proprietary bits are outdated. they arbitrarily choose to stop and their reasoning doesnt hold up.

>>105574867

>>105585100
>so do they just have a binary of a working ROM and then they try to find part of that binary that's useful and figure out what it does?
yes. they might know how some of it works, based on source code they might have from an older version, but new additions to that code without source will need to reverse engineered. google is trying to fuck everyone involved in independent development of android.

>i dont understand what do you mean by this
it means certain parts of the operating system would be frozen in time and never get updated until it's understood and working on real hardware.

>>105585156
well it was true the last time i checked it 3 years ago
>reasoning doesnt hold up.
if i had to guess it's just until some guy buys a new phone and stops maintaining the old one
>>105585202
makes sense, i dont see why wouldnt they get upset about it though

>>105585248
>makes sense, i dont see why wouldnt they get upset about it though
probably because it's not easy to comprehend just how difficult it is to reverse engineer software. it's not something that can be easily automated either. takes a lot of time and experience.

>>105585319
ai will solve it xD but really tho

>>105585043
>why dont they continue providing android security patches these are not tied to the vendor and improve security of older devices
they do have EOL support (latest update for 4 and 5 series is from 4 months ago) but overall they're fucking schizos who want you to buy new shit
rip divestos

>>105580288
You don't need to sign in or have an account on ANY android phone.
Account is needed mainly for 2 things: play store apps (you can't install new apps from there, however built in apps and services are upated by play store) and play security patch (which is only somehow useful if your phone is no longer getting any other updates).
That's it. Play store is not that important since you can sideload whatever you want and there's plenty of trusted alt stores and sites. Absence of security patches (manufacturer or google) is debatable in general, common sense is still the best security.
Yes, graphene is doing some hardening and stuff, it can be useful for some cases, but in my opinion if you already own an "ultimate surveillance device" installing graphene solely for security is like trying to extinguish massive forest fire with single water bucket. Not a bad thing, but useless thing. At this stage it is better to blend in.

>>105581298
Fuck me, I thought I was the only one, it's been 2 months and I'm going insane.

>retarded home-assistant integration through Google Cloud that takes a year to setup
>can't host a Chromecast server (???? Who said Apple was closed??)
>motherfucking delayed notifications, messages coming 40 minutes late
>no serious context aware note/task app
>keep & tasks look like fucking dogshit, most apps do
>people don't pay shit so most new apps come on iOS first and Android second if ever
>no tap to top bar to scroll up
>can't grab scrollbar
...

This isn't half the shit that pisses me off.
And the thing I thought I'd get like Syncthing, they decide to drop support.

When the Air comes out I'm getting it asap if I don't blow a fuse before, I don't care about muh battery thicc style chocolate bar phones that's for androshitters who have SOCs that guzzle 200W idle, give me the iPhone 7 experience all over again please.

>>105585850
Can you actually install android without having to sign in? Last time I used a stock phone (many years ago), on first boot it'd run the setup screens and force you to sign in to a google account and I don't remember there being a way to skip it. Maybe I was just retarded.
Otherwise, yeah, you might have a good point. It'll be annoying having to root the phone to uninstall all the stock bloatware (including google play itself), and having to go back to using a janky firewall rather than having the network permission actually exposed to the user - IMHO the biggest fucking issue stock android has - but it would be doable.
Other issue will be the lack of a convenient way to switch between using google-requiring apps and not having google play services running. s microG actually good nowadays?

My problem is that I really, really don't fucking want a "tinker phone", I spent my time trying to chase custom degoogled roms and fighting with magisk (and even before that, supersu or whatever it was), I just want a normal fucking OS where it doesn't feel like I'm bashing together a dozen patches maintained by hobbyists that disappear all the time. Graphene was that, it's ran by a giga-autist that's been at it for years, it fully supports the phones it does support, no patches, no random things suddenly going unmaintained, no compatibility issues. I'm really not looking forward to having to fight to room my phone, uninstalling system apps and seeing the OEM shit all break apart because it wasn't designed for it, random apps not working because microG is incomplete, root this custom firmware that flash and reflash those, "your port is unmaintained saar" and other garbage. Have things gotten any better? I'd be surprised.

>>105585920
You perfectly can. I can only speak for android 6-8 and 13-15 (because it's just what i used a lot, milked my phone for like 7 years before buying current one), but the only time you offered to sign in or create account is when you doing first post boot configuration. And there's a skip button in the bottom corner, it will warn you that it is not advised blah blah, but you just pressing "ok".
Honestly, i just don't care at this point. I used to tinker a lot, going for "perfectoin" or whatever, but got very tired. Too much work, too much worrying about projects being discontinued because dev burned out/have no time, things working wrong or not at all... Whatever android is coming with a phone is fine by me. You can tweak it without breaking too much, disable play store and use however you want.

Why does it have a Jewish logo?

>>105582779
why would you believe this or that hardware is compromised and not simply all hardware?

>>105588572
were we duped again graphene bros

>>105588572
>six-fold symmetrie = tHe JeWs
obsessed

It was an unusable schizo OS anyway
Just use an iPhone

>>105588572
Fellas, are single layer of atoms arranged in a honeycomb planar nanostructure jewish?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene

>>105584988
again, LEARN TO FUCKING READ

>>105574867
they never did

>>105582779
kek