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Previous thread: >>105485411

I might have found a solution to KDE Plasma's horrible default touchpad gestures. It's called InputActions, and it's not part of KDE. You have to build it manually from some random 3rd party GitHub repo.
>Heh, GNOME users need to install 3rd party extensions just to make their DE work properly! Not us Plasma chads!
KChuds eternally BTFO.
https://github.com/taj-ny/InputActions

>>105588506

>>105588494
>>105588494
>>105588494

>>105588528
>shilling the thread made after this one
Too slow, bitch.

>>105588468 (OP)
I set up unattended-updates for my Debian desktop install but what should I use for auto updating flatpak? Should I use cron for this?

>>105588506
Gestures have me convinced that Gnome is infinitely more of a touchpad/laptop desktop than it is a touchscreen one. It just flows so much nicer.

>>105588582
>flows so much nicer
*flows so much nicer on that kind of setup

Just installed GNOME

>>105588574
>he fell for the debian meme

>>105588571
I don't give a fuck about prideposting. I didn't make the "non-troll" thread. I just hate when /fglt/ is split across threads.

>>105588582
100% agree.

>>105588468 (OP)
>GNOME
ywnbaw

>>105588611
>I don't give a fuck about prideposting
Why lie? If that was true then you wouldn’t have shilled the older thread.

>>105588468 (OP)
Why didn’t you link to the previous thread?

>>105588598
What’s not to like? Throw on Xfce, gufw, VLC, and you have the perfect desktop with zero bloat. Set up auto update and you literally don’t have to think about your computer again for five years.

>>105588634
I literally explained my reasoning you fucking moron. See >>105588611

>>105588574
I would make an APT hook like snapd does.

>>105588598
Debian is based as fuck and unironically the best distribution.

>>105588668
>five years
I personally don't trust LTS, but you do you.
https://www.debian.org/releases/

>>105588668
throw on greybird and some snes/genesis emulators and that’s basically my laptop lmao. i don’t even fuck with flatpak anymore either because it all just works despite the packages being supposedly geriatric

>>105588717
>flatpak
I mostly agree but damn it's handy when it saves your bacon. The only thing I really use it for is JamesDSP because EasyEffects is a pain in the ass.

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>>105588528
this nigga is a closeted fag :3

>>105588784
Yeah, that's why I wrote in the other thread:
>Reposting because the other new thread is a troll thread, apparently


Retard.

>>105588468 (OP)
https://blogs.kde.org/2025/06/08/this-week-in-kde-apps/
>Additionally, as it is the beginning of Pride Month, I would like to take this opportunity to celebrate and acknowledge the invaluable contributions of LGBTQIA+ members within the KDE community. Their work, creativity, and dedication continue to enrich our project and foster a more inclusive and diverse environment for all.
>This celebration is especially important at a time when many large tech corporations are rolling back their visible support for the LGBTQIA+ community. KDE and other grass roots organisations have your back!

>>105588754
>but damn it's handy when it saves your bacon
agreed for sure. if i ever needed the full libreoffice suite again (or something similarly complex) it would probably be the flatpak version

>>105588689
>Debian is based as fuck and unironically the best distribution.
this is what retards actually believe

>>105588794
>i don't give a fuck about prideposting
>but doing it near me is doing a le heckin trolling
You’re a fucking meatball lmao

>>105588850
If you’re waiting for our permission to elaborate then here it is, champ.

>>105588888
Some would argue that YOU are focused a little to much on pride/hate. The rest of us are having a lovely conversation about Linux.

>>105588923
>autistically larping the debate club while desperately trying to explain himself multiple times, all to save face on an anonymous image board after his repression gets called out
You’re a fucking meatball lmao

>>105588863
better than expected tbqh

>>105588958
You got me. I am in fact closeted, despite being out to friends and family. Nice work, detective. You were so close, and yet so far.

t. your special little meatball

Have issues with S5 sleep on Ubuntu 24.04LTS.

I have a RX6600. Do I need to turn off any settings?

>>105588468 (OP)
What ever ended up happening to Vanilla OS after the big rebase to Debian? Was it just a nothing burger?

How do I cope with the issue that nobody ever messages me on XMPP? I feel FOMO and I feel like I'm betting on the wrong horse so to speak, should I just transition to Discord

>>105589505
Discord via flatpak or in a hardened browser isn’t the worst as long as you never type in anything you don’t want public. Not that I like proprietary data mining platforms, but mental health and friends is probably more important than ideological purity.

>>105586379
>>105586954
arch is more stable than Ubungo LTS now

>hop into plasma 6
>now mpv lua scripts won't work on wayland
what's going on here? it works just fine on x11 plasma 6

>>105589668
Always was

>>105589920
x11 is built to be a public terminal with no security.

How do I make the terminal part of Konsole appear same color as system theme?

>>105588964
You're talking about new software relying on new runtime libraries. In my experience, this isn't a problem until a particular Ubuntu release becomes ~6 years old. I'm not saying you should use a single LTS release for 6 years, but you could, skipping 2 releases of Ubuntu/Debian or 1 release of RHEL entirely. To me, that's quite a few years of stability.

Blocks your path.

>>105590427
this is a pretty common thing because glibc is pretty asine about its own verison and anything c will be linked against it.

>>105590501
Path unblocked.

>>105590176
Have you tried editing the profile? There's an Appearance tab in there.

>>105590559
What's your point?
I'm saying you can basically stick to the same release for 6 years, which is a fairly long time by most standards, and might even be preferable to the system being in a constant state of flux.

>>105590661
That new software relying on new runtime libraries is indeed a problem.

>>105590695
Again, it's only a problem if you're still on Ubuntu 20.04 by the end of 2026. Not to mention there's plenty of workarounds for exactly this type of thing.

>>105590631
Well not exactly the same but there is a profile close enough to the system one, thanks

>>105590767
No, it's a problem that arrives as soon as you try to run a c binary linked against a newer glibc than you have on your system.
It doesn't matter how outdated you are, if it's linked against glibc 2.34 it will expect to find the glibc2.34 symbols in your glibc, and if it doesn't it will refuse to run.
The solution to that is to bundle all the dependencies, be it in a container or the old, dirty LD_LIBRARY_PATH way, but that's a pain in the ass so I'd still call it a problem.
When you have an environment with different OS (ubuntu/debian) where you want to build something on one machine and want to run it on the other, you can encounter this problem very easily.

>>105590821
>No, it's a problem that arrives as soon as you try to run a c binary linked against a newer glibc than you have on your system.
Which is why developers who aren't mentally ill tend to target whatever glibc is still under Ubuntu's 5 year mainstream support.

I had some issues the last few days where I'd either have Mint on a dual boot HD, migrated my Windows to a seperate drive, and lastly running Mint/Arch live via USB and somehow my Windows 10 bootloaders would somehow fuck up. I decided to scorch Earth the drives since I was distro hopping anyway, but I'm trying to figure out where I went wrong to prevent this again in the future since this will be like my 3rd time installing Windows on its own dedicated hd.
If the first time some dumb memory leakage across partitions on a shared drive happened, I can understand, but I'm trying to figure out what keeps causing issues with my bootloaders for Windows, it seems to trigger after using some form of Mint but I also ran Mint on that dual boot for like 9 months and wasn't an issue with my Win10 partitions then, booted everything through Grub at the time. Don't recall the first instances but I can tell you the last time everything, Linux and Windows, was UEFI.
I just want to know if running linux, a debian distro, or mint is known to interfere with Windows in any way or if this something else.
One other thing, I have Realtek drivers that read as boot devices in my BIOS, and after the last oddity where Windows refused to boot I noticed that boot drive name changed to something else Realtek related, I think I booted into the drive once just to see what it was. Probably a dumb play even if it was harmless.

I want to go hardcore CHUD mode, so I am looking into installing Artix with dinit.

Is there a way to get Hyprland to act like openbox of old, like the crunchbang glory days? I like the project but generally have little use for tiling managers. I read that hyprland is highly extensible though.

>>105590427
Not really no. Half my vidya didn't work on Ubuntu LTS, yet everything was fine on Nobara.
Not to mention other software. You're literally forced to use Flatpaks, Snaps or Appimages if you're on LTS distros. Distro maintained 3rd party software is completely unusable.

>>105591617
i’m not gonna try to stop you on your quest, but labwc has been so fucking nice as a former openboxfag that it’s hard to recommend anything else. no shade on hyprland but try it because labwc was basically made for you

Bros, I'm at my wit's end. I thought I had everything setup and working on kubuntu,then i go to launch the only game I actually play (dota2) and the audio jsut chugs and stutters like a motherfucker; similar to how in windows if you mismatch the system hz+buffer size to the ASIO program hz+buffer size. Will this shit *just werk* in ubuntu studio since it's made for media prod? I will not use linux for music prod because of proprietary windows plugins needed for my workflow, I just want a daily driver system for browsing/watching videos/youtube/twitch/some dota. I'm almost certain all of this would not be an issue if I just used motherboard audio, but that's not an option.

>>105591741
Feel free to give specific examples of software that doesn't work on the latest Ubuntu LTS because of out of date libraries.

>Nvidia rtx4060
>enroll secure boot key
>all good
>install proprietary drivers
>black screen
I might be retarded.

>>105591765
Software which itself is years out of date is unusable. Libraries are irrelevant to this point.

>>105591758
Oh trust me I've looked into it. If I wasn't trying to create chudOS I'd be using it. The issue is it is a "pure" wayland compositor, it uses drew devaults wlroots, is very friendly with the freedesktop people, and for my purposes thats a nonstarter. Hyprland started out like that, but vaxxry got banned for not bending over for the girlcock and started re-writing the wlroots backend for hyprland.

>>105591773
New software not working with old libraries was literally the main point of the entire conversation. If expressing your distaste for LTS distros is your entire contribution, you can fuck right off.

>>105591819
>developer releases latest thing
>LTS distro: "Nooo! You can't have latest thing now, you have to wait 2-4 years!"
If you think expressing distaste for this retardation is wrong, you can fuck right off.

>>105591835
You still haven't named any specific software that I supposedly "can't have".

>>105591835
Why wouldn’t you have a distaste for latest thing when “latest thing” is often times a glorified beta test? Not all of us want a time sink OS that we have to babysit. What the hell are you actually doing with your computer that you’re eagerly awaiting fucking point releases of some random ass library?

why does the default resolution on the terminal need to be so ultra-high?

>>105591906
Change FONTSIZE in /etc/default/console-setup

>>105591469
Windows will always find a way to wreck GRUB no matter what you do, they need to be segregated

>>105589668
Yup and pacman is more comfy

>>105591764
Try this -sdlaudiodriver pipewire

>>105591469
>dual boot HD, migrated my Windows to a seperate drive, and lastly running Mint/Arch live via USB and somehow my Windows 10 bootloaders would somehow fuck up
Age old issue of UEFI bootloaders splitting their dependencies across different drives. To avoid that, you need to unplug all other existing boot drives before installing another OS.

>>105591881
Pick any random 10 software and check their versions. You'll probably find that the only thing not a year behind in updates is the web browsers.

>>105591890
>Not all of us want a time sink OS that we have to babysit.
Same here, which is why I use rolling release.

I'm trying to reinstall Debian with full disk encryption, and it keeps failing. I've tried twice with the net install and once with the live environment using the Calamares installer. Any idea what might be causing this to happen?

>>105591948
Fuck. I knew Windows didn't like Linux drives but didn't know if it was the same vice versa.
>>105591996
That blows. I mean that's not a massive ask but still blows. Is that just a UEFI thing or does Legacy MBR have the same issue?

>>105592028
no. your vague description might as well be describing the process you go through to dilate at night. you have provided absolutely zero information. further, the fact that you expect someone to be able to "shine" a solution to your problem is insulting. i hope you do not solve your problem and that it persists until you abandon it as unresolved.

>>105592028
Are you doing it manually or guided? If so, post your desired config.
>Calamares
Never used it for Debian. I always just use D-I.

>>105592002
To updooter brainrot victims like you, it doesn't matter if a package is behind year or a few hours, you get the itch to updoot as soon as new thing drops. Whatever was working perfectly fine up until that crucial point when an updoot becomes available, suddenly becomes "unusable". Of course, that doesn't really happen, I'm just illustrating your mental illness for the rest of us.

>>105592077
If manually, post desired config**

>>105592059
Meds, now. Not tomorrow. Not after your next meal. Now.

>>105592095
The tone might have been a bit aggressive, but the point still stands - I tried X but it didn't work is just not giving us anything to work with.

>>105592095
>transsexual flag
>"for men"
lol, correct.

>>105591975
That did it, thank you so much!

>have to wait until 6.4 to be able to get rid of this stupid fucking speaker icon
WHY

>>105592611
Wanna feel even worse? You could get rid of it in Plasma 6.2.

>>105592077
>>105592218
Guided. I just gave it another shot. This is the error I got

>>105592611
The funniest/most enraging thing is it sometimes appears for apps that don't play sound at all.

>>105592670
>>105592681
Never had that one.
Maybe check logs.
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s01.en.html

>>105592706
My god that does sound infuriating.

>>105592707
>Alt+F4 for checking error logs
never in my life i thought i'd see this as a legitimate non-troll advice. thanks debian

>>105592361
Nice, np. This happened on CS2 too, I think it has to do with SDL using ALSA by default for some reason

>>105592654
>>105592706
>>105592727

I found a temporary fix until 6.4 comes:
https://discuss.kde.org/t/how-to-disable-sound-indicator-for-differend-tasks/31245

>>105592034
>Is that just a UEFI thing or does Legacy MBR have the same issue?
As far as I know, that's a UEFI "feature". The temptation is to just use BIOS, but it's been considered "legacy" for at least a decade and distros like Fedrora have already dropped support for it.
MBR is a disk partition layout, nothing to do with UEFI/BIOS boot modes.

>Ubuntu, in-place upgrade every 6 months
>Ubuntu LTS, in-place upgrade every 24 months
>Ubuntu LTS, manual fresh install every 48 months

For a normal person, which is the way to go? I.e. not a techy, not a programmer, not a NEET who has nothing better to do all day than to tinker with his OS. Someone with a family, a job, a life, responsibilities. Something that is reliable but also the least timesink-y. Inother words, the best balance between reliability/stability, and the least effort/hassle required to maintain that reliability/stability. (e.g. the last option is probably the most stable, but requires the biggest effort to maintain that stability (fresh install, fresh setup) - but then again, only once every 4 years).

>>105592883
i thought with classic BIOS it's always better to have MBR and with UEFI it's better to have GPT?

>>105592898
ubuntu lts has support up to 5 years, 10 if you use ubuntu pro which is free up to 5 machines

>>105592883
Thank you for the tidbit and the correction. I keep getting EFI partitions and UEFI conflated.

>>105592898
>i thought with classic BIOS it's always better to have MBR and with UEFI it's better to have GPT?
Perhaps, but they're not the same thing and the opposite combinations can be used with caveats.

>>105592898
go with Ubuntu LTS, sign up for the free Pro subscription, and upgrade only when you need to or want to.

Fresh Arch user, reading over the wiki.
Are errors involving partial/fragmented updates through pacman as pants-scaringly spooky as they seem? I feel like I'm going to forget and run "pacman -Sy package" one day and cascade issues down the line I won't realize until 2-3 months later.

>>105592670
ext2?

>>105593091
>I feel like I'm going to forget and run "pacman -Sy package" one day
just never, ever do it.

Trying Linux Mint and Fedora KDE at the moment

Do I need to keep a windows install in current year?
I haven't used Linux in 10 years, I'm about to get a new desktop and I'm thinking about wiping the hard drive and installing Linux Mint
I only use one program that's Windows-only, a 3D printing slicer, can Linux run Windows programs well now?

>>105593231
Fedora 41?
Anyway, i spent a year on Mint and just recently moved to Fedora KDE Plasma and liking it a lot.

>>105593312
I had an old .iso file. After updating it's 42 now.
How would you compare Fedora to Mint?

>>105593253
I'm no expert but it's still imperfect, like 98% there but when you get to niche things like special emulators (I play with the Vanguard Real Time Corruption emulator to corrupt videogames and save that data) it gets sticky. There is a wine guide to it but takes a lot of legwork. As I get better a goal for me is to learn how to run modding tools to play games like Fallout NV or Skyrim modded on Linux, but for now I use my Windows for it. My gf also loves Roblox and Sims (EA) that run their own launchers. Again, Wine is able to handle launchers and sub-programs, but the last build of Mint I was running gave me what appeared to be unique issues working them.
In short I'd recommend keeping Windows until you have done everything you want to do in Linux first, and for the love of God learn from my mistake whether you're dual booting or seperating your drives.
>>105591469
>>105591996
Throw down money on another drive if you must

>>105593091
>Are errors involving partial/fragmented updates through pacman as pants-scaringly spooky as they seem?
They can easily make your system unable to boot, but they can be fixed easily by booting the live usb, chrooting into the system and completing the update.
That's a pain in the ass though. Don't do it.

>>105593336
I am not an advanced linux nerd so take what i say with a grain of salt. I like that packages are new and that i now can have multiple monitors with different refresh rates, VRR, and HDR. I liked Cinnamon but KDE Plasma just feels more modern and capable. I know Mint gets recommended as the beginner friendly distribution but i have not faced anything that would be more difficult on Fedora. It just werks etc.

>>105593094
What about it?

>>105593717
all of my why

>>105593746
I'm using the guided installation. That's what it's doing apparently.

>>105591766
Turns out sway is being gay and doesn't like the proprietary drivers unless I use - -unsupported-gpu

Is the AUR trustworthy if users vote on it? From what I'm seeing it's giving me Steam Workshop/Greenlight voting vibes.

>>105594171
Sure, you could always check the PKGBUILD just in case

>>105592898
Ubuntu, unless you don't care if you're 2 years behind in software updates. If you don't mind this then do a manual fresh install of LTS every 2 years.
This is under the assumption you actually want to use Ubuntu. It's not really good for beginners.

>in-place upgrade
Never do this on Ubuntu. It usually shits itself.

>>105594258
>Never do this on Ubuntu. It usually shits itself
Can confirm, I tried it twice and both times it broke

>>105594171
You know how voting works. How many people do you think check on the contents?

>>105593792
>ever defaulting to ext2
the absolute state of debian

maybe I'm just stupid at the moment but what is the correct, clean way to tell sort that 64 comes before 1043?

>>105594966
-n or --numeric-sort. RTFM next time.

>>105595005
thanks, I'm just stressed because I'm sitting for 8 hours on something I imagined taking only 15 minutes because I constantly have to do a workaround of workaround of worksaround...

>>105595053
" --help" will show available switches on most GNU or GNU-like programs. You could have saved 15 minutes by just typing "sort --help".

been a few weeks since i switched to linux, is there a working screen recording tool like shareX on windows?
spectacle can screen record on wayland, but RDP doesn't work on wayland for me so I have to use X11 (where every desktop animation lags)
Peek works but has no sound
flameshot is good for screenshots but can't record as far as I know

>>105595363
If you're using X11 shouldn't ShareX work via WINE?
Not sure if screen recording works though I only remember image capture working

>>105595363
gpu screen recorder works for me

I installed a font but the text properties are messed up as you can see here. The name simply says "Font", the Family name is "Font", and the Style is blank. I want to modify the properties of the installed font manually to correct this. In short, please help.

I'm upgrading my shitty little "home server" (it's just a Linux box that's a NAS with Jellyfin). The CPU is an Intel in both cases, there don't seem to be any things I'd need to worry about being different. Usually, I'd just swap the SSDs physically, but this time, I can't.
Can I safely DD the old one into an image file and then DD that onto the new SSD, or is that unlikely to boot/function?

>>105595979
Should work if the new SSD is the same size or bigger. Otherwise you have to shrink the partition first

>>105595771
isn't that embedded in the font file itself? you can try fontforge but I'd try downloading it from somewhere else before going through the trouble
what font is that?

>>105595771
>>105595999
nvm, just spotted "chirp" there, tried to download a copy from a github page and that came up as a google result and indeed comes up as "font"
try this source instead https://github.com/mojolo/Chirp-Font-X-Twitter

>just a casual update on arch
>nothing crazy is updated (only kernel, libvirt and browsers)
>reboot
>sddm refuses to load with error "Failed to read display number from pipe"
>???
>install and start sway from tty2 to debug shit
>start browser
>xkb-338 couldn't find file "rules/evdev" in include paths
>???????
>remember I have apparmor.d-git installed and have it on enforce mode for weeks now (no issues before)
>check logs
>apparmor started to deny /usr/share/xkeyboard-config-2/rules/evdev out of nowhere
>I find out that somehow this one fucking error started to appear in 1000+ apparmor rules because of a completely unrelated update
>delete apparmor.d-git
>everything works
HOW?? Is apparmor.d the antichrist?

>>105596083
You know how someone always says "the AUR is how you break Arch" and then some retard goes NUH-UH?

The AUR is how you break Arch.

>>105593253
there are 3d printer slicers available for linux, otherwise the one you use may work in wine
i'd recommend dual booting to start with, since you haven't used linux in a while and may need some time to sort out what software you want to use

>>105594735
Debian defaults to ext4, my dude.

>>105596027
Thanks I'll try this later.

>KDE File Picker Portal and KFind just crash when trying to search something in my NAS, Dolphin itself is fine though
I don't think I want to bother anymore

I can use fstab to auto-mount partitions, what about auto-partition a device? on boot if the device doesn't have partition 1 & 2 then dump the partition table and create the partitions. That possible or do I have to script it myself?

>>105596713
Not when I tried it, it didn't. I found a reddit guide for manual partitioning and encryption, selected ext4 myself, and now it seems to finally be working.

What do you guys use for 'Disc Cleanup'? Do you even need to worry about that for linux? Is that just a windows thing?

>>105597694
ncdu and my brain

>>105597694
bleachbit is available for linux. it's similar in function to disc cleanup and ccleaner

>>105597694
Also this

so in bash, 0 = true and 1 = false
how does that work with OR statements? 0 || 0 is true?

>>105588468 (OP)
so is it pronounced guh-nome or just nome, like a garden gnome

>>105597694
My temp folder is stored in ram. Can't get cluttered if it gets cleaned up every time.

>>105588468 (OP)
I just installed KDE, because GNOME tranny devs said "don't bump issues about core functionality like file manager resuming last session, it leaves less time for coding." GNOME doesn't have shit you tranny jeets. It has basic functionality at best.

KDE is more complicated but at least it fucking works.

>reminder gnome has a "Desktop" folder but doesn't show anything on your desktop because... "it's not supposed to"!

>>105597694
Not needed on Linux. I recommend Vorta for backups. Linux is based on UNIX, which is basically the world's most complicated typewriter. It lets you do dumb shit like play your RAM through your speakers.
https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/g06w4g/bored_at_home_during_quarantine_play_your_ramssd/
>>105597707
bleachbit deletes your empty space and isn't needed on any systems with encrypted disks.
>>105597721
Completely pointless because /tmp wipes on every reboot.

>>105597694
find "$HOME/.cache/" -atime +365 -exec rm -v {} \;

>>105597814
>bleachbit deletes your empty space and isn't needed on any systems with encrypted disks.
erasing free space is only one thing it can do, and isn't even a default option (and indeed is rarely needed these days as now we have ssd's with trim)

>>105597814
>Completely pointless because /tmp wipes on every reboot.
it probably refers to ~/.cache

I'm trying to decide between nix and gentoo, does nix have the equivalent of use flags? If it does why would anyone use gentoo over nix? I'm looking for the most customizable and least bloated distro that I can get to be perfectly tailored to my system.

>>105596684
>there are 3d printer slicers available for linux
SLA (resin) printing, unfortunately, doesn't not have many open source slicers

Is there a way to add a tray icon for when a script is running in the background, and close it when its done?
with something like YAD?
I'm using xfce if this make a difference.

Is there a way to get a thumbnail view for video files with thunar whens selecting file for firefox?
I tried pikeru and it didn't work.

Got one of those SFF for my living room TV to use for light games and emulation.
I'll be installing CachyOS on it, so it's my first time dealing with arch.
1. Most of my ROMs are on my NAS, Would it be a problem if I load it from there instead of copying it over? assuming it's all running on 1 Gigabit.
2. What's the best way to mount the NAS on this machine?
I mean I know the whole create fstab entry and such, but is there some options that would improve the performance? like nofail and noatime?
3. I'd like to have the NAS mounted and would show on the file manger in the PLACES in dolphin, how can I do this? or is this something impossible to do?
4. Is there a way to make it mount only on need?
5. I've got some games configured with bottles on another PC, if i want to copy over do i just copy the bottles directory to the new install? Or do I need to export it somehow?
6. The OS would be installed on the NVME slot, but I got HDD in there as well.
I was reading this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xdg_user_directories
But didn't find a way to make one of the /home subdirectories to be on separate drive/partition

Sorry asking too much.

how do I force program that doesn't accept stdin and only reads files to read from a pipe or some other file descriptor?
I started using klogg for log viewing and it's generally cool but it requires a file input, but I usually concatenate ally my logs and pass it to less
how can I achieve that? so far I tried those, and none of them work
klogg /dev/stdin
klogg <( cat logs | sort | uniq)
mkfifo klogg_pipe; cat logs > klogg_pipe ; klogg ./klogg_pipe

>>105599438
What filesystem are you gonna be using?

>1. Most of my ROMs are on my NAS, Would it be a problem if I load it from there instead of copying it over? assuming it's all running on 1 Gigabit.
Should be fine.
>3. I'd like to have the NAS mounted and would show on the file manger in the PLACES in dolphin, how can I do this? or is this something impossible to do?
It should do that when you mount the NFS/SMB share. If not by default, then there's ways to do it.
>4. Is there a way to make it mount only on need?
Yes, you don't add fstab, you run the shell command that mounts it.
>5. I've got some games configured with bottles on another PC, if i want to copy over do i just copy the bottles directory to the new install? Or do I need to export it somehow?
Bottles makes a point of tHis iS mY wiNe BotTLe :DD in its readme, so you'd think copying it over should just work

>>105599674
>What filesystem are you gonna be using?
Does it make a difference?
CachyOS has both BTRFS and ext4, I like ext4 but BTRFS had some nice features.
>It should do that when you mount the NFS/SMB share. If not by default, then there's ways to do it.
Well, I'm using xfce and it doesn't so I guess I'll try my luck with different DE.
>Yes, you don't add fstab, you run the shell command that mounts it.
That's not really what I want.
>think copying it over should just work
I don't get it, is this a joke?

>>105599696
>Does it make a difference?
It affects things like redundancy and error detection, so yes. ZFS is a popular choice for NAS, but as you've noticed it doesn't come with the kernel, so that would require some extra tinkering.
>Well, I'm using xfce and it doesn't so I guess I'll try my luck with different DE.
nautilus gives SMB shares an icon in the sidebar, like a removable drive. I think it treats NFS shares slightly differently.
>That's not really what I want.
What do you want?

>>105599790
>What do you want?
When I want something it would mount the remote share and then when there's nothing access it it would unmount it.
Because my NAS is weak cheap chink shit and more than 3 user it would overheat and crash.

>>105599817
Again, you're not really specifying how you want this done. You can run a shell command that would mount and open your shares. You can make a shortcut for it and run it by double clicking it. Is this what you want? Are you saying you want some kind of activity monitor or timer to automatically unmount when it's not being use? What makes you think that it being mounted without the shares being accessed will cause it to overheat?

>>105597771
>so in bash, 0 = true and 1 = false
Not bash-specific, and not exactly; there is no true or false, only command exit codes. 0 is EXIT_SUCCESS, 1 is EXIT_FAILURE (on most operating systems, not true for all). The "true" and "false" commands do nothing and just exit with one of those. An IF command just selects which of its following commands (THEN or ELSE) to execute depending on the success of the command passed as argument to it.

>how does that work with OR statements?
It's not actually a logical OR statement, even if it mostly works out that way. With "first_command || second_command" the second will only execute if the first returns anything other than EXIT_SUCCESS. The second command will be evaluated regardless, so there can be unexpected side effects; avoid chaining && and ||, things like "first && second || fail" may not behave as you'd think.

Use the shellcheck utility to check your scripts when you change them.

>0 || 0 is true?
If "0" is a command that exits with EXIT_SUCCESS, yes, otherwise no. :^)

>>105599849
>What makes you think that it being mounted without the shares being accessed will cause it to overheat?
Previous experience.

good morning my nixas

So I just moved to Fedora from Windows and I've already encountered a fair amount of annoyances, but whatever.

My question is about Dolphin, how do I get it to display the disk space like this? I'm already annoyed that I've lost the disk overview you have in Explorer but I seriously don't even get a X out Y? The only thing that seems to exist is the total free space in the bottom right.

>>105600491
Move the mouse over the drive in the sidebar and it'll show a hint with those details. The rest of the time there's just a thin indicator.

>>105600767
For some reason that only works on my non-os drives, but regardless that's not a solution. I want that "X free GB out of Y GB" constantly displayed like on Windows. It used to be available in Dolphin as the screenshot shows but they've removed it now?

>>105600880
>For some reason that only works on my non-os drives,
That shouldn't be the case. Pic related.

>but regardless that's not a solution. I want that "X free GB out of Y GB" constantly displayed like on Windows.
That's your mistake. It's not Windows, it'll never be "like Windows". It's a different OS, it's on you to adapt. Get out of that mentality now before you contort yourself trying to make your desktop look like Windows.

>>105600880
well if it existed you could make a bug report requesting it to be added as an option

>>105600977
>That shouldn't be the case. Pic related.
Well it is, I only see the / part on my OS drive while the non-os drives show the / and then underneath the X out of Y GB.
>it's on you to adapt.
>showing something as basic as X out of Y storage is trying to make it like Windows
First of all it was literally available in a previous version as my screenshot shows. Second of all I thought the whole point of KDE was that it gave you lots of customizable options? I can't do something as basic having a drive list how much storage it has available?

>>105601043
>Well it is, I only see the / part on my OS drive while the non-os drives show the / and then underneath the X out of Y GB.
Can you show an actual screenshot?

>I can't do something as basic having a drive list how much storage it has available?
Sure you can, just hover the damn thing. All you want is in the tooltip. When you don't need to know EXACTLY how much is available, the visual indicator is enough.

does cinnamon have a memory leak issue

>>105601072
I fixed it by going into properties and selecting calculate. It now shows it.
>When you don't need to know EXACTLY how much is available
I actually do need it for my HDDs but this is not relevant. It was a feature that existed that they removed. I even found a reddit thread where people complained about the removal. Seems retarded to remove an option that was already present for no reason.

>>105600977
>That's your mistake. It's not Windows, it'll never be "like Windows".
>removing features that users want
Also it's kinda funny, in this instance you're actually defending something Microsoft would do with Windows while I'm arguing against it.

>>105601133
If you're on a recent version of Dolphin I suggest having a look at this too.

>>105601164
I did do that and mentioned it in my initial post
>The only thing that seems to exist is the total free space in the bottom right.
I still want to be able to get an overview over all the available space on my drives. Rather than having to individually click on each one and check the bottom right.

>>105601163
It was changed to be cleaner, nothing was removed. The indicator provides enough information most of the time, the status bar shows how much is free in the current location, and if you need more you can always just hover the device entry on the side panel, which will show mount point + /dev node + free space + capacity + % used.

>>105601182
>get an overview over all the available space on my drives.
That's a general deficiency on Linux DEs. But how often do you actually need it if your storage is organized properly?

>>105601194
anon, if other anon wants it it's not nice to tell him that he shouldn't want it, doesn't need it or similar.
I'd also want actual numbers, bars just don't tell the whole story.

>>105601182
Dunno about file managers as I rarely even touch them, but I hope you find a solution that works for you. I live in the terminal.

>>105597814
>>reminder gnome has a "Desktop" folder but doesn't show anything on your desktop because... "it's not supposed to"!
No way, what's the fucking point then lmao

>>105588773
For me it's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p85-KtgDSs&t=40

Will the experience of using open/freebsd help with linux later on? The bsd utils in particular look very different than the gnu ones and I'm not sure it's worth learning both

So I've done some googling and I'm still a bit confused. So I'm trying to format a second drive, what's the difference between setting the permissions to "only root" and "everyone" in KDE Partition Manager?

>>105601579
Not really.

>>105601579
Well, yes, but not in the way of how to do things, but knowing what things can be done does help. Liek, if you understand how routing works while using bsd it's easy to adapt that to linux even if the tools are different.

>>105601579
>Will the experience of using open/freebsd help with linux later on?
Yes. After using BSDs you'll gain an appreciation for how much easier it is to use Linux.

>>105601593
If it's set to "only root" you won't be able to change anything on the drive without root. So, you won't be able to edit files, delete them or add new files.
You probably want to set this to "everyone".

So why are there two concurrent threads?

>>105592611
Taskbar? It's not the 1990s anymore

>>105601722
It's June and we have fags trolling.

>>105601727
Taskbar über alles. Microsoft got that part of the Desktop right, and perfected it with Windows 7. Take your foot fetish and gtfo.

>>105601792
KDE has the most tools out of any DE so you don't have to use a taskbar. You're just sticking to what you know because you're old and decrepit

>>105601927
ok zoomer

I have a US keyboard but one of my languages has some extra characters I don't have. I don't want to switch the keyboard layout all the time when switching languages so I figured I'd make some shortcuts for those extra characters.
I'm on arch hyprland. What are some easy simple ways of doing that? Also I'm open for suggestions on where to put those shortcuts. I was thinking alt but if so I'd want to differentiate between left and right alt keys.

>>105601727
I spent 90% of my life using windows. I don't have the time nor the will to learn tiling wm, Mac OS wannabe (GNOME) or whatever other bullshit you zoomers use.

I just learned about the until loop in bash

>Fsearch doesn't even have thumbnails
Damn, I thought this was my replacement for Everything by Voidtools. I might unironically go back to Windows then if there is no alternative. Pretty much a mandatory program.

>>105602659
Can't you just use Dolphin?

>>105592611
>>105602192
Taskbars are good, I use LXQt which has a taskbar. Let us all thank the FOSS gods for providing us with ample DEs and WMs so we can each use what we like.

>>105601927
Pray tell, show us what you consider a good desktop design.

>programs that let you change settings without an accept/discard changes pop up
This shouldn't be allowed

>>105602228
usecase?

>>105603214
buttfucking your mom UNTIL tyrone gets there to take over

>>105601727
but I like taskbars

>>105603213
>users who don't think before they change settings
This shouldn't be allowed

>>105602749
Nope, tried it. Extremely slow and doesn't seem like I can even have it show all videos across all drives. Oh well it seems like my Linux adventure will be cut short if I don't find a solution in a few days.

>>105603213
It happens because someone decided MODAL BAD and all the UIs became non-modal, so now the program has to either apply settings immediately or actually prompt to save/apply/discard, which is deliciously ironically often modal.

>>105603213
>fiddle with the settings
>don't want to change anything
Why did you modify the settings to begin with, then

>>105603377
>Extremely slow
Do you have Baloo indexer enabled?
>doesn't seem like I can even have it show all videos across all drives
By default it searches within the location you're currently in (I think). You'd have to navigate out of your home directory to search things outside it. Or make your drives mount into a location within your home directory.

I am >>105595979.
It hasn't worked thus far. The SSDs are the same size. I can even chroot into my server.
But no matter what, if I try to actually boot the thing normally, it'll just drop me back at the BIOS.
Any advice, anons? Preferably related to getting the damn thing to boot.

>>105603443
>Do you have Baloo indexer enabled?
Presumably, haven't touched anything.
>By default it searches within the location you're currently in (I think).
I didn't try but I just assumed searching multiple drives wouldn't be a problem. I meant that I couldn't seem to use a keyword for it to only show videos. Also I tried having a single folder open to where I saved images with ".jpg" as the keyword and not only would it not update newly saved images. I got a warning about the amount of monitored things hitting max capacity and hovering over dolphin has now crashed like 5 times when it shows the previews.

After a few hours of getting some of the most basic things I do on Windows set up, I really thought it wouldn't cause this much of a headache. And here I thought the only problem I would have on Linux would be with gaming, but I haven't even started with that...

>>105603721
nta, but gaming is pretty good for the most part. just look up stuff on protondb, people post a lot of fixes and tweaks. steam automatically handles a lot of the configuration stuff. i tested an older game (MGS:V) earlier today, it ran perfectly out of the box without any tweaks or anything. I downloaded a community patch for it to unlock fps (MGSVFix), pasted the contents into the install and shit just worked. Obviously some games require a bit more work, but it's pretty good.

>>105601271
Yes I'm being serious. Hopefully system 76's cosmic desktop can replace tranny gnome. They also removed the system tray and told devs "make users interact with your software a different way."

What's the difference between the snap firefox and another install like a .deb or whatever?

>>105604676
snaps are less efficient to run because of sandboxing. but it makes updates easier by handling it in the background. a browser is a good candidate for a snap. but if your system isnt good probably avoid snap.

debian or fedora? which one should I hop to?

>>105588468 (OP)
fucked up my drivers in linux mint second to latest release. including keyboard/mouse evidently. no backup install, my installer usbs are currently loaned out. i have a live boot usb somewhere but idk where that some is.

how do i enter compatibility mode or open grub menu from grub shell? the menu isnt showing up for some reason(single boot) but i can get the shell by spamming esc. i imagine theres a simple command like menu or back but my pc doesnt have a physical power button so any mistakes i pay for dearly.

How to configure hibernate on systemd?

What's the correct way to whitelist websites on linux?
For example I want all of my browsers to only be able to access 4chan.

>>105605884
you've got a billion ways to do it in linux but it's 2 lines in your hosts file.
>spoonfeed me
no. do some research tranny

>>105602659
There is no "real" Everything replacement on Linux since it uses a unique NTFS feature.
If this bothers you too much, you're probably not going to like Linux.
>>105605884
Use a firewall, or set up a proxy and configure your browser to use it.

>>105605939
That's actually the wrong way to do it. You can quickly test your idea. It's 2 lines after all as you said. You'll quickly see you made some strange assumptions how stuff in linux work.

i got a 5090 last week and finally decided to install it in one of my linux PCs. it turns on and the 5090 gets recognized by the OS, but not by nvidia-smi. i am running linux mint 21.3 and i used the driver manager app in the OS to install nvidia 570 drivers, but it still isnt getting recognized by nvidia-smi. what else should i try? i was reading something about manually installing drivers. something to do with "open" nvidia drivers, whatever that means.

>>105606020
>since it uses a unique NTFS feature.
Which is?

>>105606313
not him but it parses the MFT directly. the MFT is a table in NTFS that lists all the files in it. other filesystems have different equivalents to the MFT
i don't see any reason someone couldn't make a program that reads and parses filesystem metadata independent of the filesystem driver in linux as well, though it would need to support different methods for each filesystem
alternatively for real-time fs changes perhaps it'd make more sense to make a kernel driver which can gather relevant filesystem events as they happen

>>105606313
>>105606447
oh, do note that while you could do the same thing on a linux filesystem, it may not be faster than regular indexing
in ntfs the mft is one mostly-contiguous file, so you can read and parse only that to learn about every file on the filesystem
in something like ext4 however, files are recorded in directory inodes, not all in one place, so you're going to have to walk through the filesystem to find all the files, which is what a regular indexer does anyway

Are the only youtube music clients that allow me to log into my account just electron wrappers? At that point I might as well just open a new tab.

>>105606099
no, it isn't. whatever assumptions you made are wrong.

There's a certain repo build of an ibus keyboard I've been using, but it seems development stopped and there's no download available in the latest versions of linux. I don't really have experience with github, but If I can identify the changes, and reimplement them on a fork of the current master branch, could I use that on my device over the one I install from APT?

>>105606020
>There is no "real" Everything replacement
I mean Fsearch from first glance seems more or less to be an adequate replacement if it had thumbnails. It's even part of the roadmap and an asked for feature but development seems to have stalled.

>trying to install Debian on a dell business pc
>it's not booting up
>look into it
>apparently these dell pcs are picky and want some non-free firmware
>the debian wiki says the 12 installer should do it automatically
Well apparently it's not. How do I get them installed if I can't even boot into the damn thing and the installer won't do it?

>>105603721
>I just assumed searching multiple drives wouldn't be a problem
It's not. But Dolphin is a File Manager. It only searches from within the directory you're currently in.
>crashes
I'm not sure why that would happen. I only had issues with KDE software crashing if I was ever on an LTS distro.

>>105607500
Literally just install Ubuntu. It just works.

babyduck here, how easy is switching DEs? ive been using cinnamon for half a year since switching to linux but theres not a lot in terms of themes or general customization. what DEs do you guys recommend, i like the aero look

>>105609294
>what DEs do you guys recommend
KDE Plasma
>i like the aero look
I'm pretty sure almost every DE has an Aero theme.
>how easy is switching DEs?
It's not difficult to just install a DE, but there are some things that are conveniently set up by distros. So, a clean install is usually better.

>>105609294
I use LXQt and I like it. It doesn't have an aero look by default, it just has a basic look, because it's meant to be lightweight (which I like). Maybe there's an aero-like theme but I dunno.

You could try KDE Plasma, I've heard good things, although I haven't tried it myself.

>how easy is switching DEs?
I think sometimes you might have to type in some commands to set up a new DE. E.g. when I installed Ubuntu which came with GNOME I think I had to do something to disable the GNOME systemd service, so it wouldn't start at boot. Something like that. You can just google something like "how to disable [my DE] on [my distro]". Also install your new DE with your package manager and then maybe google "how to start [my DE] at boot".

On my current machine I have SDDM installed which gives me a log in screen. The log in screen has a menu where I can choose which DE to launch - LXQt or LXDE (the only two DEs I have installed).

>>105609341
I don't think a clean install is necessary. You can if you want but multiple times in the past I have installed a distro and then changed the DE afterwards. It's pretty simple, and it gives you control over what exactly you're installing. E.g. when you go to install a new DE you might see it's trying to install a bunch of suggested/recommended packages. If you don't want them then you can install the DE without its suggested/recommended packages.

>>105603959
>nta, but gaming is pretty good for the most part.
nta, I recently switched as well and yeah there are some games where I had to fumble around a lot for it to start (e.g. GTA IV for some reason, and SPTarkov) but some just run without issue, I was surprised when I just yoinked nfs underground 2 into lutris and it just started up right away
Now I'm figuring out VR...

>>105603238
Wtf apologize right now

>>105609294
I would recommend KDE Plasma as well. A lot of options. I used to be on Cinnamon too. Though i didn't try to switch DEs, i just went and installed Fedora KDE Plasma.

sway users. what's the current stack of, like, extra shit i need to get a minimally functional "desktop environment" out of sway? not applications, i mean like:
>network manager & it's applet
>a notification daemon
>pipewire
>xdg desktop portals
>screen locker
>gnome keyring (or an alternative?)
>polkit agent
>usb automounting (not sure what all is necessary here, gvfs, udisks, udiskie/udevil i think?)
i know you can technically use sway without the whole dbus/freedesktop mess but say i want to accept the bloat in order to just get everything working what all do i need to make everything behave correctly? is there an actual reference for like "the full freedesktop stack" i should look at?
also what specific packages do you use for this? as in do you use mako, dunst, or fnott, etc.

Absolute moron here. How do I run a terminal command at startup as sudo/root? Command is "sudo ./rivalcfg/rivalcfg.env/bin/rivalcfg -s 1000 -p 1000" (mouse feels weird unless i run this)

I know how to do something like this on windows, but not on linux. The furthest i've got is making a .sh file with the command, but I don't know what to do next.

>>105611766
https://search.brave.com/search?q=linux+run+a+shell+script+at+boot&summary=1

>>105611854
why network target?

debian or almalinux as a desktop OS to learn programming?

Is there a way to make a copy a whole folder, where directories and symlinks are copied identically, but all files are replaced by an empty file (like the one that is created by the touch command) with the same name? Basically just duplicate the file/directory structure without the actual content of the files themselves.

>>105612073
Debian if you did your homework and have hardware you know will be supported. Practically they're both shit desktops and you should be looking at Fedora or Arch.

>>105612073
Neither really. Check out Bluefin.
https://projectbluefin.io/

>>105612073
I mean, they have access to the packages needed to get programming tools/IDEs, though I'd personally use something Arch or Fedora because Debian and Alma are more focused on being server OS.

why did he name it linux instead of stallmanix

>>105612807
he's not a fucking gaul

I'm genuinely considering buying a gaming laptop just because they don't have the c*pilot button

>>105590627
After reading this https://man.archlinux.org/man/systemd-system.conf.5.en
I created /etc/systemd/system.conf.d/90-timeout.conf and added pic rel, would that be the correct way to override the setting? The manual recommends using this 'drop-in' conf method, but it's not just gonna wipe all other settings because I only declared that one or anything?

>>105613160
I mean what do you think the people that buy a Switch 2 think about the Chat button?

>>105613184
they shouldnt have bought it then, retards

>>105613160
My gaymin laptop came with the gay ass copilot button. Worst even, it has no right ctrl nor the button that worked as RMB(I actually used it)
I had no idea it was a thing

Is there a way to make kwallet autologin without me requiring to keep inserting the password?

>>105613746
I don’t get why no one made an explanation for these fucking kwallet, gnome-keyring, secrets BS.
The arch wiki pages sound like nonsense and incomplete. It’s pretty crazy that they force these nonsense to the average users.

Why everyone shills endeavor?
It's complete piece of shit that give arch bad rep.
Even archinstall have decent sane defaults.
I spend three days trying to know why my CPU can't turbo boost.
Because the devs have cpugoveners set to battery saving, because they can't solve simple power saving settings for the DE.

>>105613746
Yes.

>>105613879
>It’s pretty crazy that they force these nonsense to the average users.
It only happens in shit distros. Bazzite and Aurora have solved this issue.

>>105614001
>Yes
How?

>>105614068
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE_Wallet#Unlock_KDE_Wallet_automatically_on_login

>>105614139
what does this mean
>To unlock KWallet protected by the login password, it is necessary to start /usr/lib/pam_kwallet_init in the autostart portion of your window manager's configuration file in addition to configuring PAM.

>>105614165
What do you not understand here? If you're not using a DE and are using just a wm, it's recommending to run "/usr/lib/pam_kwallet_init" during the startup of the wm.
How you configure this is dependent on your wm. For example:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hyprland#Autostart

>>105614271
I'm on KDE and no, I don't understand how hyperland is related.

How to replicate this?
>in zsh
>when pressing space
>I get the last command run in slight fade color
>and it won't be saved in history

>>105614308
So why are you reading a completely unrelated section?

>>105614001
>It only happens in shit distros. Bazzite and Aurora have solved this issue.
This is my personal experience on Arch. I followed the wiki, installed XFCE, everything was fine.
Then I installed chromium, and it required the libsecret thing and started prompting me for password.
Then I installed a useful KDE program, and somehow kdewallet now keeps asking me for password.
I googled it. No good explanation. Read Arch wiki, just section after section about PAM and other BS.
As a normal user, with average linux experience, without any cryptography knowledge beyond SSH login, this is pretty insane. Very user-hostile.

>>105614453
>chromium
there's your problem right there

If I want to play pirated native linux builds of games, what is the recommend method of running them on my machine? I ideally want something with minimal overhead and enough security to not fuck my shit up on the off chance something nasty is slipped in. And as a sidenote, BSD users always rave about jails and how elegant and efficient they are, how come nobody has ported the functionality over to linux?

>>105614502
bwrap

>>105614502
>games,
you have to go back

>>105615314
/FRIENDLYglt/

>>105615616
Everybody lies.

>>105614502
Its linux anon, just create a new user without sudo access and make sure your folder permissions are correct. This is what the entire enterprise world relies on.

>>105615616
get out /v/ermin

>>105615692
ok house

How do I distrohop?

>>105616552

Virtual machines my friend, install, break, move on, break, install etc.

>>105614502

bwrap as someone already mentioned, i use his with mainly gog.com games that are normally Makeself scripts.

>>105616659
>he fell for the vm meme

>>105617021
The friendly in the title got me. I'll be in the corner in my dunce hat.

>>105617102
>>>/r/eddit

>>105617102
Friends are for people that use Windows.

>>105617180
chuckled

Wanting to give bazzite a spin but I'm worried the immutability may prevent me from installing some random shit I use and that something unknown may prevent distrobox from doing it effectively as well

>>105617560
If you need to edit shit in /etc freqently or what have you then an immutable distro makes no sense for you

>>105617102
>friendly
>4chan
how GNU are you?

>>105617687
how ganoo am i? what does that even mean?

>>105597790
Guh-nome

>>105617700
>being this much of a GNUfag

>>105614453
>As a normal user, with average linux experience, without any cryptography knowledge beyond SSH login, this is pretty insane. Very user-hostile.
You're not a "normal" user if you use Arch and install shit manually. You're basically acting as a distro maintainer at that point.
>started prompting me for password
If you don't want this shit then just use blowfish without a password.

>>105617560
>may prevent me from installing some random shit
You can still install software system-wide if you want to. Most common stuff can be installed with ujust.
https://docs.bazzite.gg/Installing_and_Managing_Software/ujust/
For everything else you can just use rpm-ostree, which is the equivalent of rpm/dnf/apt for immutable distros.
https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/

>>105617734
imagine being this retarded

>>105617700
>>105617687

>>105618410
>You're basically acting as a distro maintainer at that point.
erm, no, that's not how it works

>>105618450
t. retard

>>105618464
ACKshually it is

>>105618464
You're closer to a distro maintainer or a sysadmin than an actual user, yes. You're in charge of knowing which packages you need, getting them and configuring them. You may not be the person "packaging" them into a repo, but you're only one step removed from that.
Compared to just using Manjaro or Endeavour where you download a distro and install it, then immediately start using it without ever thinking about any packages or dependencies, or even configuring them.

>>105618464
How is it not?

>>105618491
No, installing packages does not make you a maintainer, you'd have to make packages on your own for that.

>>105617560
>bazzite
I thought Bazz was dead.

>>105618502
imagine being this retarded

>>105618497
>they do it
>for free

>>105618502
>No, installing packages does not make you a maintainer
It literally does.

>>105617700
spotted the newfig

>>105617560
>I'm worried the immutability
skill issue

>>105614495
>2024
>the year of our lord
>fire fox

>>105618497
>You're in charge of knowing which packages you need, getting them and configuring them.
packages have dependencies, the maintainer already figured that out for you.
>but you're only one step removed from that.
Sometimes, one step is enough to cross a line. If you don't maintain your own packages you're not a maintainer.
>immediately start using it without ever thinking about any packages or dependencies, or even configuring them.
The fuck are you talking about? You don't need to think about dependencies while using Arch, you need to configure the things on other distros as well (even ubuntu and the likes) and after installing Arch you immediatly start using it (by installing more stuff you want. This is using it, not maintaining it.)
If you want to install a browser, you go pacman -S , you don't have think about dependencies at all, and configuring it to your likes is distro agnostic.

>>105618640
yeah, still trying to replace it but nothing better exists.

>>105615692
t. liar

>>105618641
>you need to configure the things on other distros as well (even ubuntu and the likes)
In most cases you really don't, unless you want to.
>If you want to install a browser, you go pacman -S
You don't. You go into the app store and click "install".

>>105618647
Waterfox?

Let's get this thread to the bump limit

>>105618640
It's the only usable choice.

>>105618647
>still trying to replace
Why? It's literally the better of the two browsers. The adblock question should've settled the matter by now.

Next thread lads:
>>105588494
>>105588494
>>105588494
>>105588494

>>105615018
More like brap kek

>>105619213
>Waterfox
Wasn't it bought by a literal ad company.