What went wrong with NBN Australia?

5G came along and ate its lunch. The old Telstra monopoly forced the government to act to create genuine competition but the life cycle of the technology of the day was very short. In general government and technology are never a good combination

>>105588713 (OP)
Heres the rundown

In 2009, the Labor Party introduced the NBN. However, in 2013, Labor was voted out in favor of the Liberal Party, which viewed the plan as a waste of money and decided to cut back on the infrastructure. Instead of providing fiber directly to homes, in some areas, fiber would only extend to the start of the street or the driveway, with the remaining connection relying on copper wiring.

Another consequence of the Liberals' changes was the high cost imposed on ISPs for using the NBN infrastructure. Since the project was so expensive, the government charged ISPs substantial fees to recoup the costs, which were ultimately passed on to customers. As a result, consumers ended up paying significantly more.

Because the project was scaled down, the available bandwidth at network nodes was also reduced. For example, as you would know, a street with 50 houses cannot support 1000/1000 Mbps speeds for each home. While 1000 Mbps download speeds are available, they cost around $130 per month. Upload speeds are even more expensive because ISPs have set high prices simply because they can.

The Liberal Party was voted out, and Labor is back in power, but they have since removed their promise to fix the NBN.

As a side note, Rupert Murdoch, owner of Foxtel, the largest cable TV provider in the country, strongly lobbied against the NBN. Faster internet would have led to a decline in cable TV subscribers, which threatened his business interests.

>>105589086
This. Still pissed that they fucked up the NBN so badly on purpose.

>>105588713 (OP)
25Mbps is all anyone would ever need
- former communications minister

>>105588713 (OP)
Mining resources and investment property jews didn't like money was being invested in useful infrastructure. The silver haired boomer can't comprehend investing in innovation, therefore borrows money from the banks to buy up houses and rents them out to foreign students.

Hence why if you try to invest in anything other than the property market (or tax mining companies), the property jew will accuse you of causing "annoda shoah".

Is Telstra actually taking the piss at this point?

>>105588713 (OP)
For NBN Satellite, Starlink. Everything else, just being cheap

Same problem with Openreach in the UK.
Some rural areas didn't get ADSL until the 2010s. and instead of deploying real fibre they only did it to the cabinet which could only deliver 75 megabits.
Now we have a patchwork of incompatible altnets and even now 22% still doesn't have real fibre.

you're (sic) map is upsidedown

Assuming that there was anything less efficient than the government.

>>105588713 (OP)
If you sell your labour for a living, you unironically have no business for voting anyone besides the Australian Labor Party.

Fuck the Liberal Party and its coalition goons.
Fuck Pauline Hanson and other populist cookers and grifters.
Fuck the mining lobby.
Fuck the Teal "independents".
Fuck the fake-ass "socialist" minor parties.
Triple fuck the Australian Greens.

>>105589086
Sounds about right, except for the ALP bit.
https://www.pm.gov.au/media/only-labor-will-finish-nbn-and-keep-it-public-hands

>>105589086
This. The Liberal party literally ruined our country. Not to say Labor are great of course but the Liberal party is responsible for everything that's happening to us now because they are the goodest of goys

>>105589086
>fiber would only extend to the start of the street or the driveway, with the remaining connection relying on copper wiring.
That's fine though.
You can easily get several Gbps over copper when it's just a short distance.
The only real difference to the consumer is a slightly worse latency and probably a slower upload speed because it's half-duplex.

>tried to copy the NZ model
>didn't separate the build-out from backbone ownership like they did
>didn't have 4 wholesale providers competing for customers like they did
>bent the knee to screeching retards about overhead fibre going on powerlines and instead put it all undergournd for 5x the cost, this fucking website is somehow still up after 15 years: https://noaerialnbn.org/
>a shithouse business model that relied on cheap connections within 100km of every capital city to entirely fund all the losses for 50 years on skymuster
>having to change the law to stop competitors like TPG building their own infrastructure in cities to pay aforementioned subsidised country fucks: https://www.itnews.com.au/news/tpg-calls-for-nbn-protectionism-to-end-554297
> Starlink smashing skymuster in cost, bandwidth and latency and basically making it worthless
>government still pretending it's a Government Business Enterprise like AusPost which makes money and doesn't need constant cash injections to keep the lights on, they are desperately trying to keep it off the budget books (this would be catastrophic if ABS considered it not a GBE anymore and classed it as a budget item)
Fucktard redditors and ideologues refuse to admit governments of all persuasions shat the bed on this and the free market could fix the internet for 80% of Australia in a year if they were allowed to.

>>105588793
Don't worry, every mobile broadband connection in the country is taxed $10/month so the government owned NBN is on a "level" playing field with industry and low usage users don't switch over

>>105589979
Why are there nothing but garbage "we're not centrist" parties that are basically all the same shit nowadays?
If they ever divide on anything, it's something irrelevant.
My theory is the deep state does not allow our democracy to have proper parties at this stage per US / 5 eyes fuckery.

>>105590170
>bent the knee to screeching retards about overhead fibre going on powerlines
Have you ever heard of these things called "cyclones" and "cold fronts"?

>the free market could fix the internet for 80% of Australia
If that's the case, why didn't they do anything before NBN?
Only now they're acting? Hmm, strange that.

>>105589186
I had heard Mr Murdoch in particular didn't like the rollout. It competed with Foxtel.

>>105589188
When was the last time they die literally anything other than take the piss?

>>105589990
Party whips, deep state and lobby money make either party largely irrelevant nowadays.
Especially when tech is now power and you have countries like the US and China sabotaging your government and whatnot to prevent Australia getting any leverage in that industry.

>>105590206
Undergound
>lower lifespan
>higher cost
>marginally less chance of damage
>far longer time to repair
All the evidence is against it other that "muh aesthetics is that a heckin new wire on my poles with 4 wires already aahhhhhhh time to protest"
You're a massive faggot and I'd kinghit you in the street if you think underground is better in any way.
People like you are the reason I left Australia, there's no point, you're all fucked in the head.
t.paying $60AUD/month for 2GBps

>>105590226
yeah it's pretty cooked
most of the good/ambitious people go to america so we're left sucking on google's teat

>>105590266
You must live in Melbourne or Sydney and I can tell.
Those wires would go down regularly in Perth, Adelaide, Hobart, Darwin and Brisbane.
They're having a power pole failure crisis in the west at least. Btw, they still pay for most of this through disproportionate tax.

>>105590206
>If that's the case, why didn't they do anything before NBN?
They were you dumbfuck, TPG had a huge rollout program planned and executed. The government had to scramble and shut it down.
Don't fucking dare speak about this stuff like you have the slightest clue, it's obvious you don't.
https://www.technologydecisions.com.au/content/networking/article/tpg-fibre-plan-a-threat-to-nbn-switkowski-823851065
It changed the laws not long after that article was written
https://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/17/screw-nbn-says-tpg-well-fttb/
https://www.baka.com.au/business/tpg-to-dismiss-red-tape-and-pursue-building-its-nbn-rival-20141224-12dey0.html
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/tpg-offered-sliver-of-hope-in-bid-to-overturn-nbn-protectionism-559277
Learn your history or fuck off cunt

>>105590294
>Adelaide
Stop fucking lying you dogcunt. Stobie poles are insanely reliable and basically indestructible.
You don't have a fucking clue and it's so apparent. Notice how I'm the one providing proof for the shit I claim and you're harping on like a retard?

>>105590206
I live in the Philippines and we have fiber on poles. As long as the actual equipment is fine it doesn't matter if it gets fucked by a typhoon or something. The fiber itself is cheap, replaceable. In areas where it's buried they have more frequent issues because of retards drilling into the roads or whatever knocking out everyone's internet.

>>105588793
>5G came along and ate its lunch.
never happened

>>105590348
we have fibre in all aussie cities, and in most suburbs, buried under the streets. problem is it's expensive. just ignore the poorfags that are using prepaid mobile phones in their meth dens just to post here.

>>105590551
>The government literally had to make laws to stop it
>Brought in a huge mobile broadband tax on all non-NBN internet providers that's around 25% of the cost on some plans
>The CEO of NBN literally said it's a massive threat
>Dumbfuck Aussies on /g/ think that never happened
Here's where you start screeching about latency and packet loss while not realizing basically all consumers don't give a shit about that, just cost
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/accc-takes-aim-at-the-size-of-the-broadband-tax-613173
https://www.afr.com/companies/telecommunications/looming-5g-threat-to-nbn-just-got-real-20191108-p538rq
https://www.techguide.com.au/news/internet-news/why-5g-is-posing-a-real-threat-to-the-nbn-and-why-the-telcos-are-happy-with-that/

>About 28 per cent of NBN users are now on plans with download speeds of 100 megabits per second or more, but most NBN users remain on slower and cheaper 50 Mbps plans.
Imagine living in the third world (Australia)
Enjoy your cenno after being left behind in the real world faggots
t.2 gig symmetrical and laughing at how pathetic you all are

>mfw when NBN got mogged by Telkom Indognesia

>>105589086
This is how stupid your average Gaybor voter is. Everything government run is shit - and they're the first to tell you - but they have a real blind spot regarding NBN, probably because they want to fuck Juliar or Penny Wong or something,

>>105590170
>free market
Free market is why NBN existed in tge first place, retard. Telco's were doing piss all with infastructure while fucking people over with insane prices. Some were building those smart communities except it was only in select new housing and nowhere else. Said houses also didn't get a choice in ISP, it was the cable owner only and they fucked you in the arse for pricing.
Free market is the reason NBN got ruined in the first place because business interest took priority over good infastructure (foxtel)
Free market is the reason australia doesn't have symetric internet even tho upload cost nothing but they can artifically upsell businesses to buy upload
Free market is the reason smart communities are owned by opticomm and they manage to be worse than nbn and old telstra lines.

Australia is the prime example why internet infastructure should be nationalized. The instant the infastructure and maintenance enters the free market or corporations, the quality and capacity of it tanks.

>>105588713 (OP)
the British got involved

>>105589128
this

>>105590296
In a national broadband rollout it's obvious that the rural towns and outer suburbs are subsidized by ultra dense wealthy inner city areas. By being allowed to cherry pick only the richest inner city areas and apartment blocks without any obligation to provide services to less profitable zones they'd be hurting any chance of a true national rollout happening.

NBN free upgrade* in sSeptember
"standard" 50/20 -> 100/20
"fast" 100/20 -> 500/50
"ultrafast" 500/50 -> 1000/100
*as long as you aren't on FTTN haha

>>105589979
>unlimited Indians fucking over every career that's not a union tradie job, sending house prices sky high and crush loading the health system to the point of collapse
thanks albo...

>>105593121
Immigration and population growth is a Bipartisan policy

>>105590312
>Stobie pole
Neat. They need these in California.