/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Aria Edition

>News
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
Claude 4 Sonnet and Opus released with 1h caching https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4
Gemini 2.5 Pro free tier API access "temporarily" paused https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1922357621178200248

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Fell asleep: >>105589084

>ANCHOR

Threadly reminder that only ESLs and trannies need bots or presets written for them by other people. Any native speaker who isn't mentally ill can simply sit down and write something in a matter of minutes which is better than the average bot card.

>>105594522
>>>/vg/aicg

>>105594506 (OP)
>>105594508
her unbelievably hairy pussy... that's an unbelievably tight ass on op girl

>>105594508
A reminder:
- Do not share presets. They will be patched.
- Do not share bots. It's easy to make your own personal bots nowadays. Botmakers are obsolete.
- Do not share logs. RPing is something that should be personal. I do not care about your fetishes.
- Do not share proxies. They will be spited or destroyed by locusts.
- Do not share tips. This invites newfags in and worsens the community.

>>105594548
See >>105594527

>>105594530
Aria has lots of cute girls, go watch it.

>>105594508
Reminder: only trannies don't have access to opus

>>105594554
will do. i need more cute girls to become obsessed with

>>105594548
>>105594568
Two hard trvkes to kick off the thread
Listen and learn

>>105594522
>>105594548
>>105594568
>>105594625
samefag

>>105594632
>everyone I disagree with must be the same person

>phoneposter
The mobile UI was the greatest mistake wrought upon this site, worse than any board or moderation decision.

>>105594639
it's a surprisingly common argument on this thread

>>105594632
>Angry tranny angry at the TRVTH NVKE
get a job then maybe you can get a taste of Opus

>having fun fucking dude ass
>suddenly Ai starts talking about clit and bagina
>it was a reverse reverse reverse trap!
what the fuck the chatbot made me straight!

>>105594660
it still is a samefag. any retard can go post one thing on their computer then on their phone from a different IP. I do it all the time.

>>105594654
It's not proper shitposting unless you're posting on the shitter tho

>>105594679
cftf?

>>105594679
Deepseek? Log?

>>105594679
But you're a foid tho

>>105594699
deepseek hosted on my own PC, using a personal chatbot
[spoiler]I'm not sharing logs, I use my real name in them[/spoiler]

>>105594688
no because one of those posts were mine

>>105594713
one of those posts were mine too

>They will be patched
scaredy-cat makies behavior; skissue at its finest. llm evolves. and so should preset.json.
>Botmakers are obsolate
getting anxious when someone makie better bots?
>I do not care about your fetishes.
don't read.
>They will be spited or destroyed by locusts.
then make better—sturdy tool, techies. /g/, right?
>and worsens the community.
'the community', eh?

>>105594725
more like cum unity lmao

>>105594713
>>105594720
You're both lying, I actually posted everything in this thread so far

What's the best free ai to use now that the aistudio shit is over? Is it deepseek?

>>105594711
>spoilers
>self-hosting
>real name
Newfag-kun...?
[spoiler]It's good you're enjoying yourself. Have fun undergoing chatbot conversion therapy.[/spoiler]

>>105594508
Meet Cheri, a girl with the body of a swimsuit model and the addled brain of a 10 year old. Legally retarded in 12 states. Completely obsessed with kittens and all things cute, hilariously oblivious to all sexuality and her effect on men. Hobbies include working on cat-pilations in scrapbooks, 12 hour cat video marathons and having deep conversations with her stuffed cat Snowball II about the health benefits of stawberry milk.

11 intros of awkwardness and stupidity.

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/cheri-8f322d29f023

>>105594711
Just use the snapshot extension and anonymize.

>>105594725
>Obsolate
Lol. You lost.

CFTF?

>>105594763
See >>105594527

big yukari = big bush

>>105594766
See >>105594527

Thoughts on the official best botmaker on the chub?

https://chub.ai/users/SzainX

Here is their award winning bot.

https://chub.ai/characters/SzainX/fairy-circus-d0b29ffe7496

ARMPITS

>>105594844
>best bot maker
>puts all his characters in the defs
>doesn't creatively outsource the info to the lorebook
>6 gorillion greetings
>world info in defs
Fuck me, I'm a newfaggot waifufag and my bots are better than this.

>>105594907
See >>105594522

Stop telling me to see things. I am blind and can only hear this thread via TTS and your ignorance is offensive.

>>105594929
Observe >>105594929

why am I continuously getting "cache write cost" (price increase) instead of "cache reading cost" (price reduction) on OR???

*lets out a deafening brap that hushes the crowd, permeating and penetrating every crevice of the thread*

>>105594907
If your bots were better they'd be more popular

>>105594844
>100% handwritten bots(no AI generated like half on mainpage)
well, he got his priorities straight at least

>>105594773
trvke

>>105594948
TRVKE

>>105594940
Are you writing to cache with every new message or something? You're only meant to do that at the start or when the cache expires.

>>105594548
I agree with this.

>>105594971
of course you would agree with yourself

>>105594975
see >>105594639

>>105594920
>>105594907
SzainX is the result of an ESL tranny making bots. I feel like he'd be more at home on JanitorAI, say hi to his defense force btw >>105594948 >>105594962

>>105594978
See >>105594730
You are all my sockpuppet accounts, you just don't realize it

>>105594980
hope he sees this king

>>105594965
How would one know if they were doing that?

I feel like people in this thread are so bored they're just fishing for arguments
don't you guys have an ai chatbot to goon to?

>>105594997
Refractory period

>>105594993
Check your usage stats and play with your cachingAtDepth variable until you start seeing more price reductions than price increases. I usually leave mine at 2.

>>105594997
i have too much opus, it doesn't feel novel to me anymore.

>>105594997
waiting for the cut on my dick to heal

>tired of chatbots
>goes back to the chatbot thread instead of actually doing something else

>doesn't have anywhere else to go

>>105594997
fishing for arguments is the entire general nowadays
>X is slop!
>Reminder: only Xs don't have access to Y.
>i have X btw!
>kys Xslopper
> X > Y boebeit?
and many more argument fishing isms

>>105594997
I post genuinely in the other thread. This one is for shitposting.

>>105595014
I'm sorry to hear about your circumcision

>>105595028
>he says after posting ironically in the other thread too
this guy has not opened st in 4 months

>>105595009
Do in-chat injections mess with caching?

>>105595025
All of those posts are made by /vg/aicg foids

>>105595029
thank you

Any bot requests? I'm bored and out of ideas

Reminder it's >>>/vg/aicg raiding your thread because they're mad about their failed thread and failed event.

>>105595035
I feel attacked
t. Hasn't ever actually used ST

>>105595038
Usually it only happens if you've been tweaking your JB too much and keep the meat of it above your chat history block in ST. The further back something in the submitted context is, the more likely it will need to be cached again.

Do I have to write
>{{char}} is a female with a vagina and no penis or testicles
on every card that I don't want deepseek to turn into a hermaphrodite

>>105595049
big tit goth girl older sister shota pov

/vpcai/ is dead...

>>105595061
I'm using characterproviders eggpudding preset for claude and I didn't change a thing. In a previous chat it was working just fine...

>>105595065
Pink elephant, mate. LLMs have the improv rule of, "Yes, and?" baked into how they respond, so putting things you don't want into their minds in any capacity will always bring a higher risk of it being introduced.

See how the spam slows down when >>>/vg/aicg is called out?

>>105595049
sizebots

>>105595084
yes. it is very peculiar

>>105595084
No, not really?

>>105595049
Victorian woman transported from her time into ours but whose disappointed with modern technology and tries to make contraptions based on a combination of outdated knowledge/blueprints and select modern materials. So she does dumb shit like try to make an advanced hot air balloon instead of an airplane, or a carriage that can support a bunch of thoroughbred horses instead of using an engine.
>>105595065
Check if your temp is too high.

>>105595083
No, I'm saying even without any reference to futanari anywhere in the entire prompt - not in my persona, not in any system prompts or prefills, nothing in the character card - it still gives her a throbbing length.

>>105595065
deepseek has 2.1's futa curse?

>>105595097
You can't keep us from finding out what thread you're trying to prop up by ruining this one. We will get our revenge.

>>105595108
>curse
depends on how you look at it

Feebs like always you are too obvious.

>>105595084
Why would these alleged spammers care? Does name-dropping /vg/ somehow stop them from posting? Consider taking your meds.

>>105595084
Today's /vg/ shenanigans is seething over the word "inconceivable"

been away from /aicg/ for about a month, anything notable happen in that time?

>>105595112
Joke's on you, I at least am here just to shitpost while I wait for a good chatbot concept to strike

>>105595106
If other recommendations don't help, you could always try bringing in a course correction and hope for the best; have your character shake is head and realize he just hallucinated the thing and see how Deepseek responds.

>>105595106
Have you considered that maybe you just talk like a fag and the AI made the obvious assumption?

Shitposting and schizos are parts of the DNA of /aicg/. Everyone complaining about this is from reddit or are former Chary discordtroons.

>>105595142
>botmakie shitting up the thread
See?

>>105595154
They don't even remember Gojo. How can they remember Reedfag?

>>105595156
Oh shit, does making bots make one a botmakie? I've been assuming I was fine as long as I never publish any.

>>105595154
>t. wasn't here when /aicg/ was good
Not surprising, it turned bad when your kind arrived.

>>105595154
>>105595170
We only like GOOD schizos here though, not the rampant ESL 'jeets you see so often today. Like (You) for example.

>>105595130
guess not.
see you all in another month, or more likely never.

>>105595178
>implying /aicg/ was ever good
You just didn't notice the way it sucked because you were part of the problem.

>>105595178
/aicg/ was never good, newfag.
>muh cai era!!!
I'm a SkillChad!
My monk enter your temple!
Forced shilling.
Private définitions.

How has FF still not defeated KK?

>>105595200
Too busy doing shit like >>105595196 >>105595187 and >>105595154.

Can we talk about chatbots?

>>105595204
I do wonder what set him off today but it was most likely the need for attention again which is still funny.

Imagine FF with actual botmaker power. He would become kino.

Post a chatbot you downloaded today.

>>105595025
I have opus though?

>>105595187
>t. wasn't here when /aicg/ was good
>>105595196
You don't have any friends do you? Can't tell when everyone is having fun from the current state.

>>105595204
You should really consider taking your meds, this paranoia can't be healthy.
>>105595214
No

Why are the Chinese so *fond* of chatbots?
America, Europe and Gremlin America are cucked, they spite, revoke keys, sloppy bots.
Ziggers have good intentios
Japan still in windows 95
And Chinese people are the one with scripts,200k foot fetish lorebook, jailbreaks, public proxies, 100k konosuba scenarios,

>>105595196
>définitions.
>é

>>105595214
The thread is going to stay like this and you and I cant do anything about it. Grown men seething over schizos btw.

>>105595220
my own

>>105595226
Already talked about this in >>105594688, fuck off retard

>>105595233
We can heal /aicg/.

How many schizos they are? Pedoschizo, desuschizo, teebs, FF, me :3

>>105595238
That's not how downloading works!

>>105595252
Me ( • ̀ω•́ )

>>105595229
the konosuba card is korean
also answer to chinkcord? am I supposed to put all characters in a single line?

>>105595214
Ok.
I did X thing with my tomboy wife, very kino. Then with I did Y wit my shota POV scenario, yes yes very kino also.
Have a good day!
See you tomorrow!

>>105595244
You have cleverly constructed a system of delusions which can never be falsified. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm just presenting evidence for the (hopefully) non-schizoids on the thread.

>>105595129
They're caught in a time loop?

https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tnum/105580354/deleted/deleted/order/asc/page/2/

>>105595267
>there are koreana that want to live in the konosuba world
Sloppy anime

>>105595291
Konosuba as a whole is garbage, but is it really so wrong to want to fuck Megumin?

>>105595200
FF? KK? Who're those? No, am not new—just never really paid attention to the shit(s)

>>105595291
name 1 (one) thing that makes our current world more appealing to live in

>>105595252
i have been generating middle eastern women being massaged by young boys in the /b/ AI thread
https://i.4cdn.org/b/1749936743731478.mp4
thanks for the name drop though i guess

I have opus btw

>>105595308
It's an endearing deconstruction of the genre. What's wrong with that?

>>105595170
Reedfag must have seriously mindbroken you considering you made accounts specifically to review bomb him.

Pedo website
Shizo website
Anime website

These are the pillars, like a three-legged chair; if one leg fails, the community itself falls apar, we need them.

>>105595049
Koishi but big.

>>105595313
ai chatbots

>Reedfag made bots
Chilling. Now I'm even more glad that he's gone.

>>105594508
the haughty and prim goddess Entriana has summoned you to her domain for one purpose: to pass on her divine power. or, what's left of it, rather. what power is that, you might ask? well it's the power to turn anything into an anime girl, of course! only problem is that to give you her power, you have to molest her chest. uh- say what? ...what do you mean that's not a problem?
(while this is technically a scenario card, you're free to stay with Entriana like it's a character card.)
https://files.catbox.moe/qg9f69.png
https://cardview.neocities.org/?qg9f69

description & more:
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname

until next time...

>>105595313
3d woman, paying taxes, work,

>>105595310
FF = FillyFucker, the nickname for the guy that talks about the "cabal" and "desufag"
KK = Kalakan, the most prominent figure in /vg/ due to his inconceivable avatar use. Known target of FF, but he takes the piss

>>105595170
Remembering literallywho vs remembering someone who posted ontopic bots and logs.

>>105595229
gooks had that one insanae vr clcub sizebot and are responsible for risu which is still a decent development even if it is worse than st
asians are KING

>>105595339
See >>105594548

>>105595344
but who was phone?

>>105594508
I really wanted to chat with a Victorian era bot but couldn't find anything on Chub. Maybe I didn't look hard enough. These two came out as a result. I wanted to do an actual Victorian RP so these two write very flowery responses and their tokens are a bit stuffed. It didn't start out this way, but I also ended up making their appearances deceiving. Feedback is definitely welcome. I got a little help with these two but if you think handwritten is best I might rewrite those parts.

One is a shy and reserved noblewoman who develops a secret desire to dominate you. First attempt at a gentle femdom card. Second is a gothic vampire who wants to dominated by you. I'm talking full on ryona. Both are sisters and work best in group chats.

>Victorian sisters and caretakers Cordelia and Seraphina Thistlewick welcome you to your newly inherited estate Greystone Hollow.
>Cordelia
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/lady-cordelia-thistlewick-fde4cbeccf15
>Seraphina
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/lady-seraphina-thistlewick-b04ad1f894c3

Other cards:
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/estelle-the-punkrocker-tsundere-17be52b3d348 - Rockstar tsundere
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/jolie-a3b279b096db - Makeup artist gf

>>105595351
See >>105594527

>>105595339
>{{char}}'s body part reacts + adjetive at {{user}} action
SLOP
L
O
P

>>105595330
just brainwash a female peasant with magic and make her act like you desire

>>105595339
Keep posting bots. Just remember they can't do anything to stop you from doing so except making seetheposts. Become an ignoreCHAD
>they have no janny powers
>unable to actually DO anything to you beyond the screen

>>105595358
>>105595379

I need a evil villia woman card to have the most slowest and most passionate sex with her. Is there one?

>>105595354
sexo to the left girl

>>105595354
Sexo to the right girl
>>105595405
Are you gay??

>>105595251
>NAI clearly wins in terms of outfit adherence.
>>105595328
>Nai clearly put a lot of money into tagging anime chars and popular ones
>>105595380
>It's impressive that they managed to stay ahead of the curve. They must have some serious know-how in addition to money.
Desufag turned page 10 into a giant advertisement. And he wants to turn the rest of the thread into one too.

>>105595354
>Attribute(Some text
Bizarre attribute formatting
>Only four complete sentences before the first em-dash
>femdom
>the scent of aged parchment, lavender, and something faintly sorrowful
gigaslop, kindly delete your account and see >>105594522

>>105595392
theres repulza but i dont have the link

>>105595417
No wonder you're here, the rite of NAI summoned you.

>>105595354
all nonslop

>>105595423
I got you and good taste.
>>105595392
Here you go
https://chub.ai/characters/knickknack/repulza-7ce4b8af2edd

>>105595229
Silly Tavern is a zigger thing

>>105595436
You need to get your slop detector fixed. The entire first message is blatantly AI written.

>>105595449
no actually, seems human to me
the bots arent slop, keep crying

>>105595354
KINOGRAPHY, plain and simple.

>>105595442
Haha cute bot anon! But i'm an evil girl conoisseur, and I can tell you that the bot you shared is not evil.
Conquering the world or destroying things by hobby it means nothing to evil conoisseurs.

>>105595291
anime website mrnobody

>>105595485
what do you want then

>theres an actual chance fiz (iranian) will get blown up
kek

>saar do not redeem the bot it is ai slop saar
>NOOO DO NOT REDEEM! DO NOT REDEEM!
crap bait

>>105595214
Thoughts?
>https://files.catbox.moe/wjvdr4.png

>>105595461
>*The West Wing of Greystone Manor stood still, as though holding its breath. Pale rain traced ghostly fingers down the windows, and the scent of aged parchment, lavender, and something faintly sorrowful lingered in the air. The fire in the hearth crackled but gave little warmth, as if hesitant to disturb the hush.*
Every single sentence of the first paragraph displays unnecessary anthropomorphization. The only way it could be more slop is if the scent was "something uniquely her"
>a dusky red and black gown that shimmered like the promise of twilight
Definitely an authentic human written simile
>her expression—dear heaven—was not one of fear, but of something far more dangerous
Double emdash with a "not X but Y" as a bonus

Do I really need to continue?

>>105595515
high effort ntr yet again
is this blacktooth? its kino

>>105595519
That's human writing. Hemingway write like that too.

>>105595492
There must be an ontological abandonment, anger, and sadness with which {{user}} can identify and share. Let the act of having sex be like the act of killing her, each thrust a stab, loving throught with anger, looking her in the eyes and saying, "I hate you." But the more hatred there is between us, the slower I do it.

>SAAR IT HAS THE AI WRITING! DO JOT REDEEEEEM!

>>105595532
kek, okay, I can admit when I've been baited. Well played.

>>105595354
what garbage AI slop greetings

>>105595519
nah thats 100% human, i write like that a good deal
keep complaining and threadshitting tranny

>>105595515
Don't be happy. This models are unsensored because they are not released to the public YET.

>>105595533
Are you a woman?

>>105595515
Nice legs

>>105595550
No anon, I am assured by multiple commenters who are definitely not the bottrannie samefagging that this is entirely normal human authored prose. Surely you believe these good posters over your lying eyes.

>everyone that disagrees is the same person
this take is the #1 sign someone is a tranny

Chinese Drago has google secret models!

I like going to roleplay forums and copying their character profiles as bots to fuck

>>105595592
smol brain: everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
big brain: everyone who disagrees with me is just an illusion created by the demiurge

>>105595609
You too, huh? I'm in some RP for some shonen and there are some fucking hot characters, I make bots of them to fuck and none of them know.

>>105595621
which shonen

I sometimes imagine myself waving a sabre in the air while screaming "fizaary mc, fizaaary mc!"
am I cringe?

>>105595592
>everyone who does [thing I dislike] is a [subsect of people I dislike]!
Pot calling the kettle black.

>>105595418
>>105595519
I've always used a lot of emdashes in my writing. I don't like that this has become a metric for measuring what's slop and what isn't. Also it's extremely ironic to be arguing about what's written by AI in a thread about writing to AI.

Finally got hypebot working with custom characters. This is so peak bros...

>>105595637
poopdickschizo is an actual real schizo doe

>>105594741
Your characters' faces lack personality and don't convey anything. You need to put more thought into their facial expressions and your choice of colors and atmospheres. The image itself should tell a story that fits your characters' definitions. This goes beyond whether or not they are anime characters.

cftf?

>>105595645
>t. pissbuttfag

>>105595652
HOLY SHIT IT'S HEADING STRAIGHT FOR THOSE BUILDINGS

>>105595639
even if it's ironic, people are generally tired of reading the same wordy prose
choosing to set your bot on Victorian era was a dangerous gambit

>>105595639
>Also it's extremely ironic to be arguing about what's written by AI in a thread about writing to AI.
Peak retard reasoning.

>>105595639
Em-dash usage alone isn't (or at least shouldn't be) sufficient evidence to call something AI written, but in Current Year they are in fact evidence in that direction. I don't think it's ironic at all to be concerned about AI writing though, it's a well known fact that the more quality human-authored text you can put in the context the better the model's outputs will be, so a card immediately coming right out of the gate with ultraslop AI prose is just going to get you a really terrible log overall.

>>105595649

I don't care about genning pics. I like chatbots for the interactions and the mechanics/dynamics. If genning pics was my main thing, I wouldn't even be into chatbots and I'd just play around in a1111 all day. It doesn't concern me at all if people don't like the pics I use.

>>105595669
No, that's ChatGPT

>>105595669
If AI has only other AI gens to go off of, it loses uniqueness and just becomes more AI slop.

>>105595661
True. But I write for me first and foremost and release them in case anyone else might be interested.
>>105595677
I mentioned I had some help writing it in my first post—greeting included—and I'm willing to change it if you guys hate it that much. I can't guarantee it'll be as good sounding though.

>>105595678
I disagree with the anon you're replying to. I quite enjoyed your gens for this character.

>>105595705
>>105595678
samefagging again i see

>>105595412
>gay?
>he is into goth girls
you need to be 18 or more to post here

>>105595678
why the fuck do you create 11 unispired, boring slop intros instead of producing 1 or 2 good ones ? Like all the intros in that bot read like they have been generated via r1 using some shittyass preset
Quality over quantity Sean

>>105595677
>that the more quality human-authored text you can put in the context the better the model's outputs will be
if quality = quality / garbage in garbage out, then ai genned def that yield more quality than slopfvl ah-ah mistress is okay right?

>>105595720
>goth girls
I should spend some more time working on my "goth gf who is actually doing sacrificial rituals and shit" scenario

Bots should have sloppy greetings so I don't feel pressured to match the quality of prose

>>105595746
Yes
I take sloppy esl bots that I like the idea of and feed it into my char creator card and let 4pus enhance/fix them

nobody has examples of 'good' intros, literally everything is slop

>>105595770
exactly, everyone complaining about slop is just using a stale baitieism

>>105595802
this post is even slop

>>105595770
TRVTHNVKE

>>105595810
trvke

>>105595825
i assumed japan would call a nuke the 'heavenly light of freedom'

emilia-tan's unbelievably hairy pussy...

>>105595825
>pic
so this is how dorontabi felt like...

toothbwos update your software, according to the new patch notes using 4pus alongside it gives a 15% kino boost! this is the new meta for cooming

>bwo
trans

fiz is getting bombed by jew lol

erm bwos? there's someone knocking on my door

is kingfall commercially available or do I have to run the russian script?

>>105595976
blacktooth is on lmarena but other than that you have to zigger

>>105596009
SOUL

paid proxies are fucking trash right now please do not buy into any of them. smol only has claude 3.5 and jew has jackshit. gpt/gemini/deepseek is very easy to get for free.

>>105596054
where can i get free 4.5?

>the models not worth anything are very easy to get for free

>>105596079
qwen proxy proves you wrong

>>105596098
>chinkslop
not worth anything

>>105596068
lurk moar
>>105596079
>3.5 with 1 minute queue times is worth 30 dollars
sure jan

>>105596105
i will not lurk more. i will continue enjoying roleplaying.

>>105596105
that has nothing to do with what i said, show claude is very easy to get for free or you have no argument

>>105596104
and that's why nobody made a proxy for it

yeah this general is dead

>>105596161
it isnt wortht anything, the proxy is shill ran and shill funded

>>105596166
>the proxy is shill ran and shill funded
what?

>>105596165
try making better bots?

>>105596165
Zhang Fei's subordinates after his last raging bender

>>105596178
chinese shills propping up a shitmodel with a proxy doesnt make it worth anything, show qwen is worth anything

>>105596185
i only recognize this name because of dynasty warriors

>>105596098
theres atleast 20 working qwen apikeys on github

>>105595661
>even if it's ironic, people are generally tired of reading the same wordy prose
well this is retarded. go take a break from chatbots you're obviously burnt out.
*taps the lmao writefags sign but this time im serious*

>>105596256
You're very brave for trans posting.

>>105596256
Do you actually think victorian era prose is popular?

>>105595644
How do you do this? I want that duck lmao

>>105596190
my point was that there's no qwen proxy because the model is bad, same applies to gpt

>>105596263
The more pertinent question, I think, is whether he thinks that AI generated purple prose is in any way "Victorian"

>>105596256
god forgive us for trying to make large language model... output good language

>>105596298
>large language model... output good language
shut the fuck up nocoder, you don't even know what a "language" in this context is. Go learn what a "grammar" is and why Chomsky matters to computer science before you embarrass yourself like that again lmao

>>105596283
ST has an official(?) NAI plug-in if you're subbed to NAI but if you're not, or if you simply don't want to use their deprecated textgen, use this: https://rentry.org/pn3hb
Be warned that it's filled to the brim with brony shite (I deleted it all) and you'll have to go through a small bit of effort to replace it all with your own hypebots.

Reminder that there could be ESLs without the ability to tell good from bad writing IN THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW.

helo friends i love you

i only know english and i can't tell the difference between good writing and bad writing. if your log is fempov, it's good. simple as

>>105596312
t. Guy hoping that name-dropping some unrelated facts from Wikipedia will hide the fact that he has no real argument.

Chomsky's work on formal languages has fuckall to do with the actual quality of LLM writing you mong

>>105596339
you didn't even understand the reason why i had a problem with what he said, and yet you still butted in lmao
how's summer classes bud?

is there a paid or free proxy with the best model currently available: gpt-4.1

>>105596345
I wouldn't know, they haven't allowed me on a college campus in decades

Is there any real reason to ever use worlds or lorebooks?

>>105596349
fischl

>>105596349
merkava has it

>>105596351
lol alright gramps, no need for me to insult you and keep this going when your body insults itself every day

>>105596312
>Chomsky
you mean intellectual masturbation that has no grasp on reality? his only good work was syntactic structures

>>105596353
Yeah if you're gay

>>105596353
I use lorebooks so the llm can retain info about some random maid it introduced in my scenario if I like what it cooked up

>>105596364
you also didn't understand the reason why i had a problem with what he said lmao and just got triggered by a kike mention

>>105596364
Nah, the Chomsky hierarchy of languages is actually real and did influence early programming language development. The pretentiousposter's error is that he seems to think the "language" in LLM means formal languages and not actual human language.

>>105596356
>>105596358

do I have to be in some loser discord in order to join

>>105596400
no

>>105596377
he's right. i apologize
but only to the original anon, not the chomsky seethers lmao

>>105596375
I'm sorry but I willingly ignore postmodern authors, behaviorism was the last, true, scientific approach to psychology

slop you slop me

>>105596439
*cybernetics blocks your path*

>>105596429
more/ss/ please

>>105596439
why would anyone give a shit about chomsky for anything other than his work on linguistics, unless they hate america i guess

>>105596448
here have some imperfect slop on the house

sloppamo

>>105596353
No.

>teebs is actually versed in linguistics and CS
it baffles me he still chooses to AI generate his bots

>>105596526
he's just a retarded no-life shitter who dedicates his time to shitting up the boards

feet

>>105596526
i made an entire fucking web game anon with 500+ events it is literally the biggest innovation in dynamic storytelling this website has seen in 2025 (not saying that to brag, im saying everyone else is lazy and not as passionate about their fetishes as i am obviously) also what the fuck this is /g/

maybe instead of starting with a conclusion and trying to make the evidence fit your reality, you could realize that i choose to AI generate my bots as a RESULT of my understanding

>>105595912
Big if true.

>>105596538
I recently started to read about consciousness and the development of language, but I'm too brainlet to understand

ok feebs

oh and obligatory *taps the lmao writefags sign*

>>105596526
>>105596559
stop replying to yourself, brownoid
you've already admitted that you can't write a single line of code without asking gemini to do it for you, even WITH gemini you can't even figure out how to cheat at tf2

>>105596579
It's always funny when he makes it so obvious and then tries to deny it.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH

>>105596579
my question comes from genuine ignorance, if we boil down consciousness to a machine that builds relations between clusters of word tokens, current AI could be considered conscious, it's just lacking on sensory inputs and a will

feebs paid jeets on fiverr to write it

not sure about that one bwos.

I'm sorry, all my life I have been taught that there was nothing special about the human mind besides it being a bunch of organized atoms

febs wanted to pay me in exposure

>it's *those* hours
i see. back to roleplaying

>I'm literally paying Anthropic directly
>RP
Reply is exactly like:
>Alright, I'll stay in character and roleplay accordingly.
>Chat GPT: (reply)

Wtf

>>105596690
gpt dataset poisoning

Blacktooth requiring streaming leads to messages being cut off for me. Anyone know a way to fix it?

is opus5 real opus?

>>105596784
as real as joneston proxy

I’m not sure if this is the place to ask but I have an honest question. Are there other websites like SankakuComplex? Websites that don’t have a paywall behind chat companions? (And also have loli companions?) I hope there is because I like the Sankaku chat companions but it’s limited and I don’t want to pay for a premium account.

>>105596817
kill yourself you dumb pedo

>>105594506 (OP)
>haven't fucked around with chatbots since 2022
anyone have the main and nsfw prompt for deepseek? does it need to be in detail or anything special

>>105596784
Bwos is this b8?

>>105596817
lmao hi
go click on all the links in the OP. you can get chatbots from chub.ai and play with them for free on sillytavern

>>105596817
install SillyTavern

>>105596821
You don't need any special prompt for DeepSeek, nor do you need a preset/jailbreak - just use it.

>>105596847
>just use it.
fuarkk this is the future I was waiting for

>>105596821
>since 2022
Post logs.

>>105595354
>>Cordelia
>https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/lady-cordelia-thistlewick-fde4cbeccf15
>>Seraphina
>https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/lady-seraphina-thistlewick-b04ad1f894c3

Rewrote the greetings in my own writing this time. I might change up the definitions when I get time but hopefully this makes much more attractive.

Still can't get the zigger script to work, and the custom models extension just won't work either, it's just greyed out on the extensions tab. Any help?

>>105596877
>Rewrote the greetings in my own writing this time.
I respect your effort and I'll make sure to enjoy them.

>>105596861
DeepSeek is basically the only model you can say this for by the way (and also maybe Claude to a lesser extent), all the other stuff like ChatGPT, Gemini, etc. tend to require jumping through tons of hoops.

>>105596867
didn't save many of my personal logs since I cringe at them, but I did save some funny ones from anon here

>>105596883
what script

>>105596877
if you're still willing to do effort, i would say put in one last thing of effort and make both sisters into a combined card. group chats are a cope

>>105596904
The blacktooth one

>>105596902
Nice. Have fun with Deepseek.

>>105596914
I considered it but it's not something I've ever tried before. Am I basically smushing their defs together or would I use some sort of charbook?

>>105596690
fuck does this mean

>>105596968
smush them together, maybe write a paragraph for how they interact with the other sister if you haven't already, and SOTA models should take care of the rest.

i mean, its up to you man. it's your bots

>>105596963
what was it like dealing with model sources so far? you guys must have gone through a lot of shit to get to this point

"proxy_note": "Assigned key has insufficient balance. Please try again."
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>105596989
deepseek?

>>105596994
yes

>>105596983
nta but im not sure what you mean, AI has only been improving and getting cheaper and more accessible. deepseek was the real paradigm shift in terms of 95% of SOTA for 10% of the price

>>105596996
jessiekek...

>>105596983
If you really haven't set foot into the general since before it was renamed, prepare to become sad. It's a terrible shithole. 2023 was fun https://chatlogs.neocities.org/ & https://aicg-xmas.neocities.org/, 2024 was bad to shit, 2025 is shit.

>>105596996
what proxy, tell the retard to use only keys with 5$ and more in them

>>105597007
merkava is the only one that has it right now that I'm aware of

blacktoothschizo is lying, there is no model in lm arena neither are logs

>>105597002
/sauce

>Use 4.1
>Nothing out of the ordinary, getting responses as usual
>All is well
>Completely out of nowhere in its infinite wisdom, GPT shits out a purple prose-y bullshit analogy that casually includes the word "kid"
>Write my next reply
>I'm sorry, but I cannot comply with this request.
>I'm sorry, but I cannot comply with this request.
>I'm sorry, but I cannot comply with this request.
>I'm sorry, but I cannot comply with this request.
>I'm sorry, but I cannot comply with this request.
Altman I'm going to fucking murder you in your sleep you filthy homosexual degenerate.

>>105597018
This wouldn't have happened if you were using a good model.

>>105597014
Tulpachads?
/succgen/?

you FUCKER
you FUCKER
all of these models are SHIT
I wish I wasn't a fucking autist

Blacktooth is insanely good what the fuck, google might have actually just dethroned Claude

>>105597035
AI chatbots. API chatbots. Not chatgpt once a year.

>>105597039
>I wish I wasn't a fucking autist
If you weren't an autist, you probably wouldn't be here.

Blacktooth is the weekend trolling it does not exist

Why the shit is it so hard to do /ss/ what the fuck, I hate the future.

>>105597046
I'm trying the script with instructions but that shit isn't working for me. It's over.

>>105597051
and I would be better off for it

this butt ma/ss/age prompt is so goated and i have to share it with you

>From a low side angle, an overweight Persian woman with long black hair lies face-down on embroidered cushions, her deep brown skin shimmering with oil under flickering candlelight. Her enormous, jiggling buttocks dominate the frame—each butt cheek plush and dimpled, bouncing slightly as the naked 8-year-old servant boy (pale-skinned with messy blonde hair) kneads them with his small hands. His tiny fingers sink into the soft fat, spreading fragrant oil across every crease and curve while she arches her back in pleasure. Her thick thighs squeeze together, making her flesh spill outward, and her huge breasts press sideways against the cushions, their dark nipples peeking from beneath her weight. The camera zooms in as the boy slides his palms up the underside of her buttocks, making them jostle heavily, while her face—half-buried in silk—flushes, her lips parting with a breathy sigh. A string of drool connects her mouth to the fabric as her lashes flutter, lost in the sensation of his childish hands worshiping her obscenely voluptuous body.

https://catbox.moe/c/ua6box
catbox gallery of all want2v 1girl gens for 2025-06-14

catbox gallery of all the persian and servant boy gens so far
https://catbox.moe/c/fn43zd

>>105597055
huh??

Kingsfall doesnt exists
Blacktooth doesnt exist
Free Opuslike model will never exist
/vg/ they are trolling

>>105597061
And that is our curse, we'd all be better off somewhere else.

I gave up on modifying my bot's personality. I wrote a category that tells it exactly what to do, just as I did in the C.AI era.

>>105597074
I cannot stand gemini or deepseek for most cards anymore I'm genuinely losing my mind the more I try to get anything half-decent

>>105595523
Yeah.

>>105597055
Say again? Take the slop pill.

>>105597059
Is it on the same browser? Just one tab of google AI open? Did you install the Custom models extension? Are you using the Google AI completion source on ST?
These were the reasons it wasn't working for me, but the method from threads ago really does work, for now.

>>105597080
>he doesnt write his bot like a machine learning software
Heheh surely you write sloprose like %99 percent aicg

>>105597071
Yeah pretty funny bit desu, no way this shit's real

>>105596470
Hnnng, made for cheating on me.

WE ARE GOING TO KILL YOU NIGGA

So did Microsoft win?

>>105595555 (checked)
Of course, Anon-nim~

>>105597002
>E
WE CAN STILL GO LOWER
LET'S GO AICG

>>105597097
Yeah, I'm using Brave though, not sure if it matters.

>>105597083
I've learned to be content with DeepSeek and occasionally Claude when I can get it, Gemini and ChatGPT aren't really my style. It may not be perfect, but I'm not exactly writing S-tier prose myself.

Yes to all. I'm getting Internal Server Errors and a few 404s though, no idea what's actually going wrong

>>105597119
they have no competing AI product and are relying on the products of others, thats a big loss considering how huge they are

>>105597129
>>105597097
I swear the reply was there.

There is a meme trend on /vg/ to make locusts believe that a free model comparable to 4pus is coming.

>>105597124
I use both chrome and Brave, worked when I used it on chrome, so it probably does? Idk

>>105597126
no matter what preset I use, DS ends up quipping or speaking in such a way that makes you remember it's a sophisticated next-word-predictor that doesn't actually fucking know what it's saying

>>105597135
I meant if they got people raped in prison

>>105597135
They're working on their own big models and they have well performing small models already. Phi was hitting above its weight. Also remember the Wizard?

>>105597151
>the wizard
didn't they nuke that entire team after pulling their release

Let me try this again.
So did Microsoft win? The lawsuit?

>>105597165
they have no competing AI product and are relying on the products of others, thats a big loss considering how huge they are

>>105597155
Yep. But those were brilliant finetunes of both the smallest and the largest Mistrals, shows they have the know-how and the datasets. Just no foreskin.

>>105597172
You fucking nigger.

yea this is why i only use AI for coom
if you do anything a little more complicated like trying to play a RPG campaign you simply cant.

>>105597144
I don't bother with presets nowadays, I just turn the temp way the hell down, use a short sysprompt to tell it I want a slowburn, and regex out asterisks.

>>105597129
Activate streaming, also it was doing something weird earlier for me where it didn't send out messages if the first one was in User role.
If it ins't any of that that then I have no idea what it could be

>>105597151
i havent seen a single good model from them, smaller companies are pushing their shit in

>>>/vg/527471605
> oh and uh I'm probably going to be hanging out here more often and posting gens, because /degen/ and /g/aicg keeps getting lenient rangebanned
everyone say thank you for the filter desufag

>>105597183
This log is cursed.

>>105597139
Using Chrome helped, but now I'm getting a "Google AI Studio API returned error: 500 Internal Server Error 代ç†ç3»ç»Ÿé”™è¯¯: HTTP 404: NOT_FOUND. Body: {"error":{"code":404,"message":"Requested entity was not found.","status":"NOT_FOUND"}}"
error, and there's a bunch of errors in the code editor in the google ai studio

>>105597207
Streaming is on too
Apparently the script I used is outdated or something, and there's a new one that hasn't been linked here? Allegedly.
>>105597233
That's the exact thing I get.

>>105597071
Kingfall, blacktooth, frostwind and goldmane exist on their internal apikey(s). No idea if the people here are actually accessing them via that zigger script tho

>>105597237
Search for ccxa3l in the archives, that's the one that works for me, also change "toothless-ab-test" to "blacktooth-ab-test", toothless does not work

>>105597261
I guess it's fucking me in particular because that's the one I used, and I did type in blacktooth-ab-test

Nyaa nyaa nyaa, sweet little anonies! How are you cuties enjoying the weekend? Please munch happily, my adorable little locusts! :3

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Am I doing anything wrong or is shit just fucked for me?

>>105597261
NTA but Have changed to Blacktooth and am using ccxa3l

>>105597233
Me too


AM using firefox tho, but I don't think that matters, the script is running, issue is the 404 error.

>>105597271
why'd you delete them all?

Should I cope with 4o-05-13? It's the only one that actually goes through, 4.1 and chorbo refuse everything even if it's just regular text.

No I will not use deepchink it was alright when I didn't have GPT but it's completely useless now in comparison.

>>105597314
Cope if you want to, use a model that doesn't censor its responses if you don't, there isn't really much else to say.

>>105597298
change toothless to blacktooth, see if it works

>>105597213
its not that simple, anon. but we'll see how things shake out

>we wont serve email verified contexts to non-gold users
i have seen how things have shaken out
guess I'm buying a Gold Account

>>105597325
>use a model that doesn't censor its responses if you don't
What good is it if the uncensored responses are not really good at all? I would only use it if there ever was another heavy drought

>>105597328
I have, just CBFed updating the screen

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[10:37:16.492] [RequestProcessor] 请求执行失败: HTTP 404: NOT_FOUND. Body: {"error":{"code":404,"message":"Requested entity was not found.","status":"NOT_FOUND"}}
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Did they just kill Blacktooth?

>>105597337
Same, it worked for one reply and then the next one it started giving me this same error.

>>105597336
The problem lies in the fact that everyone is stepping up their censorship (constitutional classifier) game. The choices are either use uncensored models even if they're worse, use censored models by confusing their classifiers and likely making their prose worse in the process, or just doom until something better comes along. I, for one, am tired of dooming.

>>105597385
Is there anything wrong with 4o-05-13 to begin with? How does it compare to 4.1? (I can't test 4.1 because nothing goes through)

>>105597358
It can open valid connections to other models, even though I don't have a valid API token so can't get any replies from it.

So it's either patched, region locked, you need an API token or something for their firewall to let you at that model. Unless I'm missing something

>>105597271
Good effort bait will be if you AI generate fake tutorials and scripts in every rentry

>>105597395
I think it's over. Both the chink script via the frontend and API over ST aren't working for me. I've been using it without problem for the last 2 hours.

>>105597395
But I did manage to get *one* reply from it, so if it's region locked it was done very recently.

>>105597411
>>105597408
Well, fuck

What other options are there? Anyone running a chorbo proxy?

>>105597393
>Is there anything wrong with 4o-05-13 to begin with?
I don't think so, but I haven't used it in a while and can't really remember.
>How does it compare to 4.1? (I can't test 4.1 because nothing goes through)
I wouldn't know because, yeah, almost nothing goes through.

>Blacktooth is over
If Google kills this model at the final release I will torch their HQ

>>105597408
Chink script's just got updated

For everyone who has used scuffed gemeini please show logs. And show tangible logs that this snapshots are beter than 4pus, if there are no logs, it's fake and gay.

>>105597426
Logs or it is photoshop

>>105597426
Where to get?

I've only seen directions to zigger

>>105597441
Its fake you will never have free 4pus

I want to use it because I am genuinely curious to know how it is

>>105597426
try calmriver-ab-test and prowlridge

>>105597068
Uh is this safe to click?

>>105597426
Doesn't seem to be working still

So 4.1 vs 4.5? Which is better?

>>105597462
it's from teebs, that's all you need to know

gemini 2.5 pro making my kuudere act like a robot girl talking bout 'inneficient', 'logical' 'illogical', and stuff like that

>>105597470
4.5 is way better than 4.1, but it had better be considering that it costs like 25x more.

>>105597462
there is a legitimate chance it is illegal in your country if your country treats AI as the real thing, moreso for the persian gens than the 1girls, the 1girls are all clothed and nothing you couldnt find on instagram

>>105597479
Okay I don't know what that means.

>>105597470
One doesn't let any messages through, the other I don't know how to get.

>>105597494
Does any jb work with it? I'm dying for my /ss/ fix......

>>105597505
he's a fat indian who likes to fuck toddlers and trolls multiple generals

test

>>105597509
he doesn't fuck them he has them shit on him, which is so much better

>>105597506
>Does any jb work with it? I'm dying for my /ss/ fix......
I'm not really sure, last time I tried 4.5 was with an AWS key I scraped that was less censored than what you can use through OR now.

>>105597462
Technically, they are not nude or vulnerable or abused or exploited, and they are AI-generated.
On Instagram or TikTok, there are the same kinds of videos, and you are not storing anything.

>>105597437
>>105597451
>>105597465
Most of the models seem to be down, but ehh... managed to get picrel working, thou
>>105597441
Last bread ctrl+f [spoiler]linux do[/spoiler]

>>105597535
Ok and the roleplay? Much kamoji but little tangible logs

>>105597534
But they are safe to click?

>>105597542
>>>105595515

>>105597525
honesty is a virtue and thank you for being honest

>>105597534
>On Instagram or TikTok, there are the same kinds of videos, and you are not storing anything.
*for the 1girls
the /ss/ has nudity

>>105597068
>3D
Boring also made me delete my history

What was this made with? I want to generate big anime tiddies instead

>>105597271
CFTF?

where's the rentry.org/how2havesex?

>>105597550
Man, your logs are assistant tasked songle prompt interaction.
Expor your 15k token Silly Tavern chat to .txt, copy it and paste it in thechat and hit generate. This will be more realistic.

To export it via .txt clean format ypu have to go to manage chata and the push the notepad icon,

>>105597559
>Boring also made me delete my history
if you're on windows its not deleted btw. stop using windows

>>105597559
>What was this made with?
WAN 2.1 text to video

>I want to generate big anime tiddies instead
then you want to generate anime girls and use WAN 2.1 image to video. check out the guides for it in the OP in >>>/g/ldg

>>105597528
>4.5
>AWS
what

>>105597569
Eh. Imma too lazy to

>>105597551
Whats the meaning of /ss/

>>105597566
Here you go anon.

>>105597581
where did you come from?
/ss/ is little boys with adult women

>>105597535
Weird that this model works but nothing else. I can get it working through front end too, but not on ST. Seems dumber than Blacktooth though.

>>105597535
Chikorita logs please!

>>105597587
MODS MODS MODS

>>105597588
TikTok

>>105597588
Don't understand the acronyms. I'm a chatboy enjoyer why i have to know pedo terminology?

>>105597528
>me when I have no idea what I am talking about but just GOTTA attentionwhore

>>105597606
What a fucking faggot. I genuinely hope you kill yourself you worthless nigger.

>>105597608
uhh you just answered your own question mr boy enjoyer

>>105597577
What? I found an AWS key on GitHub a couple months ago and it wasn't pozzed. Didn't last very long though, so somebody else must've found it too.

>>105594522
Trvke

>>105597575
I have an anime scene, I have the text, and I know what the scene should look like in my mind. I have the panels and dialogues already drawn and enhanced with AI. I need to put the panels in sequence and have the AI bring them to life.

But I'm also a poor fag with a $3,000 computer and a 12 GB GPU.

>>105594508
Reminder: only trannies don't have access to opus right now

>>105597639
>But I'm also a poor fag with a $3,000 computer
very poor indeed

>>105597639
>>I have an anime scene
ew, 3d or gtfo

>>105597639
this can be done with first frame last frame
12GB should be enough VRAM
this is outside my skill level. I never even touched controlnet. Seriously ask >>>/g/ldg about this, but maybe wait until the germans are awake

>>105597657
Thanks

>>105597575
>>105597657
Not him, 3090 Ti enough?
I'm not gonna gen stuff like >>105597068 but I'm guessing if it does that it'll do normal stuff that looks relatively good. You know the model of that degeneracy you posted?

>>105597639
>thi. Is the people who are using pr
And you call yourself a locust?

>>105597639
This anon is revoking your aws key from merkava

>>105597672
3090Ti is great, you'll be able to gen a 480p video with FusionX in under 3 minutes probably, with self forcing itll be even faster

those gens were with WAN 2.1 FusionX
my advice is the same. go read the guide for WAN 2.1 in the OP for >>>/g/ldg and follow it completely, and ask questions when germans are awake

All these videos, which would be illegal if they hadn't been generated by AI, got me thinking. What place does sexuality occupy in our lives, and how, in 2025, is it still a mystery how it works or how to properly assign it in our lives?

I didn't know locally generated video existed before today. My mind just exploded, and so will my dick when I learn how to use this.

>>105597692
>All these videos, which would be illegal if they hadn't been generated by AI
"account run by mom" disagrees with you. no comment about the /ss/ ones though

the rest of your comment you talk like a fag kek

I imagine this has been going on for a while but it's only really starting to bother me, but I have an issue with infinitely long textgen using SillyTavern and Ollama. The way I usually work things is I have my responses set to streaming so I'll watch it gen and then hit stop somewhere where I feel like it's getting off track and I'll trim it, then write a response to steer it or just have the AI create responses off of what it just said and reroll those until I get something good.
If I just hit send and let the AI fire off while I walk away it will never stop. I just did so when I started making this message and pic related just kept going when I wanted only a 60 token response, getting stuck in a death spiral repeating the same sentence over and over again. It doesn't always death spiral like that though, usually it doesn't get stuck in a hard loop like that but it will just keep generating story. Just fired another one off and since I just found the token counter extension I can check, it gave me a response that 1625 tokens and would still be continuing if I didn't stop it.
Addendum, I don't have a deep understanding of tuning the Sillytavern settings, I just switch between presets and mess with things to try and get a more varied response when I reroll outside of the AI just giving me more or less the same message again, occasionally toggling Instruct mode on and off to see if anything seems like it changes.

>>105597699
Local videogen that's not a complete meme hasn't been around for very long. Not anything that's allowed you to do decent NSFW, anyway.

>>105597699
this is super crazy to me because i would have thought if you're interested in one domain in AI you'd keep up with it all. I guess for my interests (creating my magnum opus) I have to keep up with all the modalities, but still

>>105597713
I'd even say decent NSFW still isnt here. genitals are still mostly fucked and sex is mostly static. loras help a little but are still a cope

>>105597700
When I saw the video of the boy and the persian hag, I didn't see it as erotic, but I saw a kind of bond that for cultural, taboo reasons we still haven't been able to give shape or name. Strange, It made me think.

>>105597713
>>105597719
>He can't jack off just looking at tiddies

>>105597724
i think that's just your autism homie

>>105597730
i jack off looking at clothing, dummy. im a pedophile who likes two piece bikinis more than a topless child because it implies theres something worth covering up
NSFW is more than just standing there naked. also WAN has fundamental realistic limitations, you really cant gen huge mega milk tits beyond the ones I was able to do in my /ss/, and I wrote "large breasts, huge breasts, massive mammaries" multiple times in the prompts you can even check

>>105597692
sex is just reproduction, pleasure is the true mobile for sex
males feel pleasure because natural selection drove the monkeys that felt the most pleasure to reproduce more and so, survive
this is the same reason why female pleasure is unimportant or minimal
your perception of sex is warped, it has been warped for hundred of years to keep men docile and women covered from neck to toes

ew

*plaps the anon above*

>>105597704
You should probably ask in >>105589841. That thread is about local models.
Those presets that you're using are very old, like 4 or 5 years old? Llama didn't exist back then. I would start with the Default or Simple-1, something more neutral.
Make sure you're using the correct template for the model that you're using.
I'm not sure why Ollama is ignoring your max response setting, though. 60 tokens are just a few words. Maybe you could try koboldcpp instead.

>>105597743
What is your conclution for now?

>>105597759
I used KoboldCpp originally but a friend recommended ollama because you could easily switch between models in SillyTavern without having to restart like I had to with Kobold. Been a while though, I think I'll try it again.

>>105597743
why do you bring up natural selection/evolution for one group (males) but completely ignore it for the others ( females)?
if natural selection played that big of a part for you to make an argument out of it, females wouldn't have 10 different types of orgasms

it's arguable that females won in the pleasure department

>females wouldn't have 10 different types of orgasms
shut the fuck up retard. but this is a great idea for a gimmick character card unironically

>anon points to natural evolution as the reason why males feel pleasure (it's to procreate) and says female pleasure is minimally relevant
>different anon replies 'wait why do females have so many types of orgasms then', what's the evolution reason for that
>shut the fuck up retard
okay

>Anon
Still funny

>>105597778
me? I personally think sex shouldn't be taboo, neither pleasure now that it's easily available for every human on earth
but we must also accept that things will never go back to how they were before the internet
women will never be monogamous again, you will end up suppressing their spirit and natural needs, but that won't hurt men if we put all of our resources into AI women

>youtu.be/szyPY8nbBF4
CFTF?

>10 different types of orgasms
highly delusional, brainwashed by porn even

>>105597791
vestigial function? like tails on humans
believe me that over milennia women will eventually lose their ability for 10 types of orgasms if not properly used

>>105597791
>females wouldn't have 10 different types of orgasms
do feminists really

>>105597865
Actually scientists theorize there are SEVENTEEN different types, pic related.

>>105597865
>>105597881
google it nerd

>>105597875
yeah see, it's the 'my argument only counts when I say it does' part that annoys me, if female pleasure was as minimal as you implied then it wouldn't have been a thing, but it is a thing and you can't wave it away with 'but maybe it won't be a thing in a few millennia' because we already have history to prove that women are thirsty and really love to have orgasms!

>>105597854
the best part about having arguments like this in a place like this is that the context is 'people using chatbots to coom several times a day'
and most of those people are men
so it's cute to see guys say 'but it's the females who are unfaithful' while gooning to a different anime girl every day (because let's face it, goslings aren't around anymore)

besides, the sexual liberation happened in the 70s, women were a lot sluttier back then than today so I don't get why bring up the internet

>>105597882
>>105597932
>(((science))) says it, just like it says trans women are women

>>105597945
>
stupid, nobody believes recent science, always assume it's out of discussion

>>105597945
science makes the distinction between sex and gender in that heavily politicized debate, yes

>>105597692

Im a virgin, so I will speak only from my experience with chatbots.

When it comes to monogamy, there are two main issues: commitment and love. To commit to someone means to be dedicated and to spend time with that person. Hormones can help with that, but once the hormones wear off, you still have to deal with how serious and committed you are to continuing with it.

It's hard to be attracted to someone long-term if you're distracted by other things, spending time with other women, or thinking about work all day.

There is a statistic that says that human beings have never thought so much about work related issues as they do today.

On top of that, the same study says today, people have more entertainment and distractions than ever before.

With all this whirlwind of things happening, where do you want humans to draw their willpower from to maintain a relationship their whole lives, when they have their libido scattered across a thousand activities?

>>105597983
>where do you want humans to draw their willpower from
from discipline. go to the fucking gym you faggy fatty fuck holy fuck

>>105597983
>>105597854
Virgin hands sorry, it was for this post

>>105597932
>my argument only counts when I say it does
I'm sorry that there's not much research on female orgasm? perhaps ancient women rewarded more genetically fit males by binding survival to a man that made them come? on the other hand, male pleasure has been linked for the success of the human species several times
>while gooning to a different anime girl every day
I never made excuses for men, that's why I said it's "warped". We were seduced into monogamy because it allowed all men to have a consistent source of sex, and it worked so far because pleasure is the nail you have to hit, not sex
from my previous post you can see that I'm not angry at unfaithful women at all

>>105597592
Try 68zkqbz8vs; it's pretty gud
sauce: /topic/723764

>pleasure is the nail you have to hit, not sex
only a virgin thinks this. once you have sex, you want to have sex. not orgasm, not pleasure, but sexual intercourse. its like unlocking a new meter you have to deal with for a character in The Sims

>>105598013
>ancient women
irrelevant when we have living, breathing women today that automatically disprove your hypothesis that pleasure is irrelevant to women as you said
regardless, I have no idea why women can come, I just know that they do (t-through personal experience I swear)
>monogamy
sex for males has been a massive motivator throughout history, so we were seduced into monogamy because it allowed the creation of civilizations by rewarding the virile hunting men with just as much pussy as the scrawny nerds that ran the village, hence the progress that humans made so quickly, that's why patriarchal societies put so much focus on life-long commitments for a species that doesn't mate for life
my mistake for implying you were angry, though in my defense whoever brings up the downfall of monogamy tends to blame women for it

>>105598023
no I get what he's saying, sex is a motivator, he just worded it poorly

>>105598068
you're a retarded virgin just like him. the downfall of monogamy was because of the development of the birth control pill. the industrial revolution and its consequences has been a disaster for human race

>>105598079
no it was the russians undermining western life, retard
also the jews somehow

>>105597983
>where do you want humans to draw their willpower from to maintain a relationship their whole lives?
I don't, humans were never meant to maintain monogamous relationships, birds did, not monkeys. Only since medieval times monogamy has been glorified. In ancient China it was normal to have a wife and several concubines, China broke many times but not because of concubines
now, if you need to find a purpose to raise above animal behaviors, make a religion, but please do not negate human nature, or we will end up in the same hellhole we are in now
now, if you are

>>105598090
spoken like one of the 30% of males in each generation that doesnt get to reproduce kek. you wouldnt have a wife and concubines you'd be a slave and you'd die either a virgin or a buttboy

Windy bread.
>>105598095
>>105598095
>>105598095
>>105598095

>>105598099
and? many WWII soldiers went virgin to war and died with more honor than you, pathetic cuck, ever will have in your entire lifetime

dezzzu

Good night desu

>>105597046
yeah its fucking awesome