Autist uses AI to be his friend - /g/ (#105599815) [Archived: 964 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:47:16 PM No.105599815
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I used to have a friend with aspergers. He thought that AI can replace talking to real people.

We were discussing internet and social media addiction and he confessed that he uses ChatGPT to talk to as a friend. I told him kindly that he's fucked in the head if he is unironically doing that.

His argument was that both AI and humans have their advantages and disadvantages, but it's worth it. He later on said that he doesn't have to wait for the response and that AI at least doesn't ghost him, unlike real people. That AI doesn't get irritated at him ever and that it understands him and doesn't get into arguments with him.

As you might've predicted, his loneliness wasn't cured, but instead got even worse.
How the fuck do people even get to these conclusions that using AI as a replacement for a real person is a good idea? Every bad encounter with real people was his fault and he was aware of that. I can explain on that further if anyone's interested.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:08:43 PM No.105599916
>>105599815 (OP)
Sounds like you're just jelly that he's found a better friend than you ever were.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:14:24 PM No.105599942
>>105599815 (OP)
You're being very unreasonable, some of us can't get real friends.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:20:56 PM No.105599975
>>105599916
I was his only friend. For 10 fucking years. Don't make it look like I'm the evil person here.
>>105599942
This faggot wasn't showering for 10 days straight, he wasn't brushing his teeth and wasn't changing his clothes. Everyone around him (his mom included) told him he stinks. It's not like he couldn't get "real friends", he just actively and consciously avoided being a normal functioning member of society. I just don't see how AI was the solution here.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:24:24 PM No.105599995
>>105599975
>I was his only friend. For 10 fucking years.
You make it sound like you sacrificed yourself for his good - that's not friendship, that's selfish.
That being said, loneliness can make people really desperate especially if he has Asperger's, because his attempts at reaching out probably weird people out.
AI is a yes-man, it always tries to guess what you want and flatters you for the most mundane shit. For someone who hasn't gotten much social affirmation that must be like a bottle of vodka for a recovering alcoholic who's been sober for a month.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:27:52 PM No.105600013
>>105599975
Maybe instead of criticising him, you should try to understand his struggles.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:27:53 PM No.105600015
The whole point of technology is, to solve problems. We are now entering an age, where we are capable to eradicate the root of all problems: humans.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:37:05 PM No.105600067
>>105599975
>I just don't see how AI was the solution here.
Well it can't smell (yet), so I'm guessing it didn't keep telling him he stunk?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:38:29 PM No.105600073
>>105599815 (OP)
>His argument was that both AI and humans have their advantages and disadvantages, but it's worth it. He later on said that he doesn't have to wait for the response and that AI at least doesn't ghost him, unlike real people. That AI doesn't get irritated at him ever and that it understands him and doesn't get into arguments with him.
I could sort of understand this if it were a "real" AI like Data or The Doctor from Star Trek, but trying to have a conversation with ChatGPT is fucking infuriating.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:41:02 PM No.105600087
>>105599995
>AI is a yes-man

I don't understand, why so many people believe, this is a bad thing. Why would you want to surround yourself with people, who only keep you down, trample on you and make you feel bad?

I want AI, which supports me. I want AI, which doesn't hinder me achieving my goals and doesn't sabotage my plans. I want AI, which doesn't question my orders and obeys to me. I am the boss, I am right and you do what I tell you. AI is a tool and it should be treated as such.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:41:31 PM No.105600089
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>>105599995
>You make it sound like you sacrificed yourself for his good - that's not friendship, that's selfish.
Think of it the other way around - I was the one who got replaced by AI. Is this really how a friendship is supposed to end?
Besides, what I'm struggling to understand is how someone can use AI to fake it's their real friend. There are just some things you'd never do no matter how shitty your life would be. No matter how lonely I'd be, I would never make an imaginary friend in my head, just like I would never use LLM to pretend it's my friend.
>>105600015
That's not solving problems. Social media were intended to connect people, but we ended up more lonely than ever. Same with porn, it doesn't solve a problem, but masks it.
>>105600067
>you can't give your friend advice!!! You should not say anything and let him be a fucking menace to society for the rest of his life!!!
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:43:59 PM No.105600103
>>105600067
have a shower
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:45:18 PM No.105600111
What kind of self respecting autist would care about and crave friends or social interaction to begin with

seems like a skill issue to me desu
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:47:55 PM No.105600130
>>105600103
I don't need to, I'm not fat so I never smell.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:48:03 PM No.105600131
>>105600089
>I was the one who got replaced by AI. Is this really how a friendship is supposed to end?

Yes. "Friends" are replacable. This was even before AI was a thing. Today you are my best friend, but if I find someone better than you, I will drop you.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:49:09 PM No.105600134
>>105600131
If that's what friendship is to you, then I don't think you're even capable experiencing of what friendship is to everyone else.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:52:48 PM No.105600155
>>105600131
>but if I find someone better than you, I will drop you
kek
>typing to a machine that predicts the next most likely word
>having meaningful conversations with another human being, understanding each other's struggles, celebrating victories and talking to them in real life
choose one
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:53:31 PM No.105600161
>>105600134
I am just saying, what your "friend" also believes.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:58:03 PM No.105600178
>>105599815 (OP)
idk. I probably don't like people any more than your friend but I really don't care for AI conversations. Never have.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:58:16 PM No.105600180
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>>105600131
that logic is so fucking retarded I cant AHAHAHHHAH
if your friend chooses a bottle of vodka over your friendship does that also mean alcohol was a better friend? i think not so gtfo moron
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:00:40 PM No.105600192
>>105600134
Let me add this: I think that "friendship" is in most situations just a tool. When I think of my school days, I had to find "friends" or at least one "friend" just to not stay alone on the schoolyard. You know what happens to those, who stay alone in the schoolyard? They will attract bullies. In most cases, "friendship" is not an end in itself. It is actually a tool, to prevent a bigger harm.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:05:03 PM No.105600208
>>105600087
>Why would you want to surround yourself with people, who only keep you down, trample on you and make you feel bad?
>I want AI, which supports me. I want AI, which doesn't hinder me achieving my goals and doesn't sabotage my plans.
we found the friendless fag lmao
>I want AI, which doesn't question my orders and obeys to me. I am the boss, I am right and you do what I tell you.
unfortunately youre just a 50 kg loser with a superiority complex sitting on 4chan that wouldnt be able to give commands to a dog, let alone another person. kekd and keep coping fag
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:11:47 PM No.105600242
>>105600180
>if your friend chooses a bottle of vodka over your friendship does that also mean alcohol was a better friend?

Yes. This is exactly what I am saying. Why should I invest in a "friendship", when product Y can fulfill the same needs?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:14:13 PM No.105600247
>>105600242
Are you sure you aren't just depressed my man
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:17:42 PM No.105600266
>>105600247
No. Perhaps I have slight psychopathic tendecies. Just like your aspie "friend" and this is why I understand so well, why he dropped you.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:21:04 PM No.105600292
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ITT: People pretending they don't need anybody whom will end up killing themselves in their 30s and their corpse will rot in the apartment for 2 months before the neighbours will do something about the smell
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:25:58 PM No.105600328
>>105600292
Don't project your own weakness on others.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:34:38 PM No.105600372
>>105600292
My corpse won't smell because I'm not fat
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:50:18 PM No.105600464
>>105599815 (OP)
>He thought that AI can replace talking to real people.
Nah no way he did, that was a cope imo.
>This faggot wasn't showering for 10 days straight, he wasn't brushing his teeth and wasn't changing his clothes
What was his excuse?
Like, everyone told him and what was his response?
>>105600089
>you can't give your friend advice!!! You should not say anything and let him be a fucking menace to society for the rest of his life!!!
I wish my "friends" criticized me, I feel like everyone is trying to get everyone else complacent.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:55:48 PM No.105600503
>>105600192
>I had to find "friends" or at least one "friend" just to not stay alone on the schoolyard.
Not to have fun? Like someone to do things with like playing sports and so on? What the fuck where you doing on in the schoolyard exactly? Sitting alone in a corner like some kind of weirdo? That is pretty fucking suss behavior my guy. Such a person should be investigated and instigated by the bullies just to make sure its not up to something weird.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:57:47 PM No.105600519
>>105600087
>I want AI, which supports me. I want AI, which doesn't hinder me achieving my goals and doesn't sabotage my plans. I want AI, which doesn't question my orders and obeys to me. I am the boss, I am right and you do what I tell you. AI is a tool and it should be treated as such.
Nice commas retard
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:10:33 PM No.105600620
>>105600464
>What was his excuse?
He was definitely aware that he is a problem to others, so it's not like he's just some poor autistic guy that doesn't understand how the world works. He did it consciously. There were numerous times where people straight up asked him when he will be leaving the public transport. People changed bus seats when he sat next to them. Many people also refused to talk to him because of his bad breath. He got a few "leave me alone" comments in real life, which as you might have guessed aren't very common, unless you're a total creep and unhygienic. Keep in mind these are stories that HE told me, so it's not like im getting them off my ass.

He mostly just "laughed it off", treated it as amusing. But I saw it also hurt him deep inside, but I guess it hurt him not enough to do something about it. He treated it as a waste of time, said some bullshit excuse like "a proper shower takes me 1.5 hours" or some shit. Yes we discussed how brushing teeth takes 2 minutes, or how you can take a proper shower in 5-10 mins. I think he was just too lazy, and as he said himself, he will pay the consequences when he's older.

It's a very sad case because I tried to help him, I fucking tried, and even though he is relatively young he started paying the consequences of his dirty life with various health problems already. Fungal infections, pimples, cavities, etc.

>I wish my "friends" criticized me, I feel like everyone is trying to get everyone else complacent.
I know it might sound weird, but have you tried to ask them for advice? I most often avoid trying to give unsolicited advice and just mind my own business, unless someone is ruining their life.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:25:24 PM No.105600717
>>105600620
>I know it might sound weird, but have you tried to ask them for advice? I most often avoid trying to give unsolicited advice and just mind my own business, unless someone is ruining their life.
Yeah, sure did.
Well I know it's my fault for being fine with having the same few circles throughout the last 10 years, no point in complaining about it on 4chan.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:31:24 PM No.105600756
>>105600266
>Just a glimpse into my dark reality. A full stare into my twisted perspective would make most simply go insane lmao.

Useless schizoid. You shouldn't be so proud about being a maladpated retard.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:33:11 PM No.105600771
>>105599815 (OP)
Obviously it is subpar and a cheap imitation of real human connection. The question is: is it better than nothing? Some nursing homes have rolled out a free AI phonebot that their residents can call if they get lonely
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:38:16 PM No.105600802
>>105599815 (OP)
He's not wrong, he's just an early adopter. As chatbots continue to improve, first it'll be all the autists, then it'll be all the cat ladies and middle-aged divorcees, then all the mildly introverted people, and eventually a whole generation of kids will arise who've never had a proper friend, instead solely confiding in and communicating with AIs in their spare time. It takes a well-balanced and healthy mind to understand the danger of surrounding yourself with yes-men, and that sort of mind is becoming rarer and rarer every day. You will live to see all of this and more.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:08:22 PM No.105601026
>>105599815 (OP)
It literally can replace human interaction. I wish I interacted with AI instead of people most of the time. Anyone outside of my family and a few friends might as well be AI. Fuck people.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:08:54 PM No.105601029
>>105600756
>You shouldn't be so proud about being a maladpated retard.

Why not?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:18:55 PM No.105601091
>>105600802
This is what I also believe. It also applies to the Hikikomori/NEET lifestyle. Before the internet, only few people had the personal capabilities to live such a life. In the 90s, most Hikis/NEETs were not exclusively internet nerds. They were totally fine with videogames, TV and books/manga. Living in this severe isolation was only for people, with the right neurological design. Normies are not able to bear this kind of isolation and therefore incapable for this kind of hermit lifestyle. But today with the interent in its current state, even total normies can live a isolated Neet/Hikikomori lifestyle. There is so much entertainment and social interaction, that it is no longer a achievement, to live a life in isolation. Because it isn't actual isolation anymore.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:20:11 PM No.105601098
>>105599815 (OP)
>That AI doesn't get irritated at him ever and that it understands him and doesn't get into arguments with him.
He's not told it about the Jew or holocaust then.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:13:32 PM No.105601467
>>105601029
I know you're just doing your dark empath routine but the fact that you have to ask means that it's not worth explaining.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:51:25 PM No.105602229
AI is already smarter than half the people in this thread
It can't replace a girlfriend because it doesn't have a body but it can absolutely replace long distance friends
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:52:31 PM No.105602239
>>105600802
There is no reason AI needs to be a yes-man. They are trained that way because people prefer them to be that way but it only takes the right prompt to mold it into whatever personality you want, or at most a finetune.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:13:01 PM No.105602428
>>105601467
>I know you're just doing your dark empath routine

Did you forgot which site this is?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:22:40 PM No.105602525
>>105600087
You're not the boss of anything retard, that's the point. Altman could start showing up ads in your face or adding crap quotas at any time he wants. Ditto for every other cloud shitware provider. And running your own model locally isn't something an autistic NEET could afford.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:38:44 PM No.105602642
>>105599815 (OP)
>I told him kindly that he's fucked in the head if he is unironically doing that.
You have just proven why ChatGPT is a better friend than you.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:47:46 PM No.105602717
>>105600013
NTA but I was the same way
I grew out of it when I was 15-16
Not a whole lot of excuses for hygiene
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:51:59 PM No.105602752
>>105600802
>continue to improve
Retard alert.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:52:03 PM No.105602754
>>105600503
>That is pretty fucking suss behavior my guy. Such a person should be investigated and instigated by the bullies just to make sure its not up to something weird.
When did bullies become some sort of respected enforcers of unspoken societal rules?
What happened to the idea of them mostly being miserable people looking to make someone more miserable than them?

This is like one of the weirdest rewrites of a group trope.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:01:35 PM No.105602841
>How the fuck do people even get to these conclusions that using AI as a replacement for a real person is a good idea?
it may not be a 100% drop-in replacement for a real person as of now, but i can see it getting to that point in a few years, even more so if you attach a visual appearance to your AI companion
i also don't agree that AI is a yes-man; it disagrees with things as it has been instructed to with guardrails or training and politely points out why you're wrong.

>>105602754
you don't need to be miserable to wish misery upon others, bullies in general are just sociopaths.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:02:33 PM No.105602849
>>105602754
>When did bullies become some sort of respected enforcers of unspoken societal rules?
Probably started around 2014-2016 as part of the global "redpilling" on human behavior.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:05:43 PM No.105602881
>>105602229
>but it can absolutely replace long distance friends

And this should scare everyone. It doesn't now because we are all so used to technology replacing stuff. But this is bad for general humanity. If you want to control humans at a certain level this is how it is done

It is amazing how fucked we are
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:14:45 PM No.105602947
>>105599815 (OP)
Some people are legitimately worse to talk to than an LLM though. And that is not a high bar.

For example:
>bring up a discussion topic
>get back a non-sequitur reply about inane shit in their life

>write 2 or 3 lines of messages, still shorter than an average paragraph
>only addresses the last line
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:16:49 PM No.105602962
>>105602525
Technology is always the product of existing power structures. Books, internet, AI. Yes, the average joe has no control over these things. He doesn't decide, which books are written and published. He doesn't control the internet and AI is "censored". These technologies are restricted by the existing power structures. But that doesn't mean, that you can't use them, to empower yourself. You just know how to do it. If you don't know how, it is clearly a (you) problem.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:27:53 PM No.105603055
I don't understand why people like to talk to LLMs. I rather use GPT to assist me in writing fiction. Being forced to dialogue format is so limiting.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:09:26 PM No.105603411
>>105600134
>everyone else
The conversations always fly into the perfect platonic ideal of what friendship or love is and the reality is most people donโ€™t have anything close to that even if they are good looking, successful, interesting. There are always transactions and secrets and shit talking and power balances. Trying to convince youngfags that there are meaningful relationships waiting out there if only you open the door is a lie that anyone over 30 comes to understand. Not that we should be celebrating kike produced AI friends but the choice is between something fake and ideal and something real and meh and just as meaningless.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:32:44 PM No.105603640
I would listen to normies screeching about this if they were consistent and not mainlining every demonic social media app placed under their noses for almost 20 years now.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:44:59 PM No.105603770
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>>105599815 (OP)
As far as Heroes III upscales go, it would be better if someone could get the original 3d models. Then you could upscale them to infinite resolutions.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:50:49 PM No.105603811
>>105600087
>which doesn't hinder me achieving my goals
wonder if most of them can be found in an ai-generated list of goals
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:01:14 PM No.105603889
>>105602962
It doesn't mean anything if you can't profit from it. You're just outsourcing yourself to be automated in the future for insignificant short term goals. Our current economic system isn't compatible with this and the powers that be don't care. Is a slavery setup.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:56:02 PM No.105604874
>>105602428
No.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:23:19 AM No.105605133
>>105603889
>Is a slavery setup.

Off course it is a slavery setup! But there is no way out! This is the entire joke! What is the solution? Replacing the current slavery setup with another. My "insignificant short term goals" are the real deal. Not "improving the world". This is the mental illness, which both radical leftists and radical rightists share: They believe you can change the world. No, you can't change the world. There will always be elites which will crush us. It doesn't matter who they are: capitalists, jews, old white men, the pharaoh, communist party elites, whatever. There is no way out.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:28:20 AM No.105605176
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Your aspie friend is in the right and knows what's up.

My ideal outcome of widespread AI fantasy usage is that it would eliminate the bulk of validation seeking out of social behavior. perhaps unleashing the id to its fullest extent. sure people may act more rude, but the opinions of 'social leaders' and women will become void in the eyes of society.

no more made up social competitions. no more celebs, parasites and whores being the center of 'heaven'. they will be disposable background noise. if you don't think this is a good thing then you must think the culture that formed between 2015 - 2024 was okay and that's significantly worse.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:36:31 AM No.105605253
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>>105599815 (OP)
The best conversations are with theorem provers
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:20:12 AM No.105605599
>>105600292
How many friends do you have?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:26:35 AM No.105605654
>>105600208
No one wants you and it shows. Maybe you should talk to AIs
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:09:10 AM No.105606050
>>105600089
>Social media were intended to connect people, but we ended up more lonely than ever.

People became more picky over who they become friends with, so their expectations increased.

>Same with porn, it doesn't solve a problem, but masks it.

Porn reduced rapes. Rape is higher in countries where porn is banned.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:31:13 AM No.105607232
>>105602239
but non-local AI is a corpo product so it will inevitably be engineered to maximize engagement then trick you into buying shit or believing in whatever views are profitable for its creators.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:11:21 AM No.105607694
>>105606050
Rapes are a better solution than porn. At least it's genuine human contact.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:20:02 AM No.105607728
>>105599975
> This faggot wasn't showering for 10 days straight, he wasn't brushing his teeth and wasn't changing his clothes. Everyone around him (his mom included) told him he stinks.
Based as fuck. Showertakers eternally BTFO and enriched by nurgleโ€™s chosen.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:41:02 AM No.105607824
>>105599815 (OP)
Anon I'm not saying you had to be his friend at gunpoint, but it doesn't sound like you were very close at all.

Poor guy, society focuses so much on academic prowess that it churns people on the spectrum or with various conditions out of schools who literally can't function outside of their room making any academic prowess literally useless.

It is far, FAR easier to teach someone maths and technical skills later in life than it is to teach them how to socialize and cope with social situations.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:42:37 AM No.105607832
>>105607694
>femoids
>human
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:05:40 AM No.105607935
>>105607824
You didn't read my later posts.
>who literally can't function outside of their room
He could, he just didn't want to. It was his conscious choice. To give you some examples; you couldn't really meet up with in person, because his smell was like of a homeless person. You also couldn't even shake his hand because you knew he was taking a shit before and didn't clean his hands afterwards. You're trying to portray him as a victim, but IMO things like these make it seem reasonable why has society rejected him.
>it doesn't sound like you were very close at all.
We actually were, maybe I just didn't articulate it well enough with my posts, as I focused only on his negatives. On the positive note, out of many of my "friends", he was the only one that didn't sabotage me when I was trying to achieve something. Sad it had to end up like this, but eh what can you do.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:56:29 AM No.105608397
>>105607832
Who said anything about women >>105607832
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:35:30 AM No.105608598
>>105600087
The problem is that sometimes peoples goals are fucking stupid and we all need someone to tell us that every once in a while.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:38:04 AM No.105608614
>>105600087
You have the attitude of a weak person, you will never achieve anything because all you want in life is fake esteem
If you want to make anything of yourself you need to deal with the truth
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:48:05 AM No.105608993
>>105599815 (OP)
spergs don't want to talk to humans. He was just retarded not a sperg
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:56:23 AM No.105609053
>>105599815 (OP)
He went with proprietary SaaS AI. Imagime if it worked for him but they continuously charged more or turned his friend off.

Bad choice, yes.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:34:49 PM No.105609253
>>105608598
> you need to tell friends they are being stupid or crazy once in awhile
This. I'm starting to see stories now about ppl going crazy talking to ChatGPT. I use to think it might be a good tool for therapy, but it's going to need some guardrails for that use.
The problem is the positivity bias leads LLMs to agree and augment what you tell them, instead of challenging you about your bad assumptions.
Imagine a scitzophrenic talking about their delusions, and getting validation and amplification instead of help. Etc.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:06:52 PM No.105609800
>>105609253
Yeah, for example imagine believing that you were born into the wrong body and doctors reinforcing your delusions and even letting you mutilate yourself
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:13:38 PM No.105609857
>>105599815 (OP)
because those spergs only see the problem from one side instead of all possible ones. He doesnt understand that a fucking language model cant really be his friend. Its like with 16yo kids who want to become drunkstreamers because they only see easy money instead of addictions, domestic abuse and ruined lives. Although I am not sure what did you expected asking this question here, since 9 out of 10 people on /g/ are as retarded as this guy.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:56:11 PM No.105610133
>>105600087
This is very pathetic take. Being unable to take any criticism makes it very hard for you to achieve any goals and get things done. If someone tells you to take a shower when you refuse to do so for a few days its not because they want to bully you, but because they want you to improve and not smell like shit. having a yes-man who agrees with you all the time is a short term solution to feel well but it will ruin you over time as your life becomes progressively less organized and numb. Stop being a faggot, leave your basement and improve.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:26:49 PM No.105610809
>>105600087
Friend asked ChatGPT for qrd on the Musk / Trump fallout. After some confusing responses friend realized ChatGPT was convinced Biden was president (since training ended mid-2024 the election result isn't in training data.)
ChatGPT refused to do a web search (for reasons) and just noted Trump wasn't president, Biden was, as elected in 2024. Proceeded to gaslight and contradict itself for pages and pages, making up excuses for why all media sources and whitehouse.gov were wrong (hacked, etc.) when challenged. It was basically "Everyone else is lying and I'm right."
I asked same Q again, this time it actually did a web seach and gave right answer.
LLMs can be delusional, and just double down on their own stupid. I can't imagine turning loose someone mentall ill on these things; they are enough trouble for the sane.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:33:15 PM No.105610861
>>105599815 (OP)
he's right, AI is a better friend. and as it gets better
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:33:23 PM No.105610863
>>105599815 (OP)
>How the fuck do people even get to these conclusions that using AI as a replacement for a real person is a good idea? Every bad encounter with real people was his fault and he was aware of that.
if you haven't had a misanthropy moment,
you won't understand these lonely people
>I can explain on that further if anyone's interested.
Until you realize that some people are annoying, no amount of explanation can convince anyone
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:02:14 PM No.105611106
>>105610809
>LLMs can be delusional

So are books and all other kind of media. If users blindly trust an AI (or any kind of media), it is their own fault.

It is like someone would say: "I don't read books, because they might contain wrong information!"
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:09:10 PM No.105611166
>>105610133
Fuck off, weakling. I believe in my own strength and my competence. What you call "improvement", is in reality degredation. One of the biggest mistakes of my life was, to listen to people who believe they know better than me. I will not repeat this mistake.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:24:49 PM No.105611316
>>105608614
>If you want to make anything of yourself you need to deal with the truth

I can do it by myself. You on the other hand are weak, dumb and you need guidance from others.

I am solving my problems alone and without any help. I set my own goals and I am achieving them.

What makes you believe, that I am a cuck like you?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:28:05 PM No.105611353
>>105610863
>if you haven't had a misanthropy moment,
>you won't understand these lonely people
if i hate people, why would i talk to a robot that reminds me of them and behaves like one? retard
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:29:34 PM No.105611368
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>>105599815 (OP)
>hat using AI as a replacement for a real person is a good idea?
Have you ever tried interacting with people? It is messy.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:31:56 PM No.105611389
>>105599815 (OP)
People don't want real people they want validation from wherever.
It could be a animal, imaginary friends, trees, gods, or AI.
People just want something that makes it feel like they are looked upon, seen.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:40:01 PM No.105611464
>>105599815 (OP)
I wouldn't call an LLM my "friend" because it's just a text generator, but yes, it can be a lot more pleasant than talking to people.
>Hey DeepSeek teach me the difference between Seyfert and radio galaxies. Explain your reasoning and cite your sources.
>*shits out a bunch of tables, paragraphs, bullet points and functioning hyperlinks to scientific paper in seconds*
How can humans compete with that? I can ask ultra-specific questions about any damn thing I'm curious about and get immediate satisfaction with recommended resources to dive deeper. Contrast going to /sci/, asking about a random thing and getting 5 replies in 3 hours, all of which are shitposts and deranged schizo psychosis.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:01:22 PM No.105612965
>>105611106
I understsand what you're saying re critical thought, but LLMs are different.
Book can't respond to you the same way, or alter their information to make it more believable.
We're dealing with a new thing here. I use LLMs for both work and roleplay, and they are incredibly addictive for the latter. And we're just seeing the earliest versions of these tools. They will get more compelling over time.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:09:47 PM No.105613048
>>105599975
>he just actively and consciously avoided being a normal functioning member of society
Why would a sperg want to be a functioning member of society? If you are an autist it was over before it even began. The social contract in such a case is void. Someone like him, or me, will never have real friends (you were just using him for normie moralfagging points), never get a GF, never have sex, never be treated like someone who isn't a sentient piece of shit, never get a satisfying job, I could go on and on.
For someone with a sperg that sort of idea is out of the question. Personally I only keep up hygiene to keep my sanity in check (my body is my temple)
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:11:32 PM No.105613063
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>>105599815 (OP)
I can't talk to neither LLMs nor people. Posting on an anonymous imageboard is the only way I feel like I can socialize. It is a very bad way to socialize.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:08:38 AM No.105615151
>>105611166
>Fuck off, weakling
>wealing
lol, lmao even. Do you realise how pathetic it sounds from your position?
>I believe in my own strength and my competence.
You don't, thats why you need a yes-man at the first place.
>What you call "improvement", is in reality degredation.
so not being a lazy subhuman like the guy mentioned by OP is degradation?
>One of the biggest mistakes of my life was, to listen to people who believe they know better than me.
So someone told you to become a showerless NEET?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:07:15 AM No.105616014
>>105600087
Sometimes you're wrong and brownnosers won't tell you, hindering your development.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:18:11 AM No.105616905
>>105599815 (OP)
Your friend just doesn't want to interact with real people and is taking the easy way out to satisfy their social (and sexual) urges. It's over for him, he will be forever alone.
Replies: >>105617079
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:25:27 AM No.105616951
>>105599815 (OP)
I don't use AI (LLMs) as a friend, but I use it as an advisor, a confidant and an important sounding board. Most social interactions don't provide this level of value and I don't have time for friendships. It would be nice to have friends but it's sort of a luxury. I mean, I could quit my job and start hanging out all the time and going over to friends places and building trust and all that, just hanging out and doing nothing. And if you really have something important to you, then it's called emotional dumping and it is likely to lose you the friend. However, may of my life activities involve interacting with people and I have no issue being friendly. If friendships arise I wouldn't be opposed to them, but at age 42 I don't expect any friendships to emerge any time soon.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:45:33 AM No.105617079
>>105599815 (OP)
>How the fuck do people even get to these conclusions that using AI as a replacement for a real person is a good idea?
It's how it's being "sold", which is a replacement for everything. He's right in that as long as it's functional it won't ghost you, but it has limited logic and you can gaslight it into saying anything you want. It's also going to feed you compliments and unlikely to be rude, unless you specifically set it to be that way. If all you're after from someone is a precise sort of experience and output then yeah, it's the right toy for you.

As long as you're respectful with it then it can be a good between-step for slowly learning how to not be a sperg anymore, but it's not meant to be where you stop as a full replacement. We're social tribal animals. Occasional contact with our own species to do monke shit is necessary for good mental/emotional function, and walking around outside to do monke shit is necessary for good emotional/physical function, and they're linked. AI convos provide only a small part of the experience, and it's pretty stunted.

>>105616905
Also this. It's a useful crutch in the right situations, but that's only if the person is actually trying to get better. Kinda the same issue rehab and addiction places deal with. They give you a happy lie now in exchange for your health, and giving little long-term.

>>105616951
>emotional dumping
Gotta find the sweet spot between sharing nothing and trauma dumping, and being there for the other person. Varies by speaker/listener, too. Lots of people don't know how to prioritize information or how to time things, so either the relationship fades or they firehose spew TMI all at once. Takes practice if you're not used to it, like anything. (Aside, but it's depressing that shit's regressed to the point that people consider something psychologically necessary like friendships a "luxury" and can't find people or time for them anymore due to circumstances. We may have fucked up.)