Thread 105606729

Chat protocols are one of the few things that have actually improved since the 2000s. It's just a shame they also became so locked down that you can't even run your own server or client.

>>105606729 (OP)
>aavrug
>aayush
>abishek
the sad state of loonix

>>105606729 (OP)
still using irc

>>105606729 (OP)
I’m on IRC now

>>105606729 (OP)
well it's the only way to get support for a few software projects so still have to used it

>>105606822
>>105606851
And you butt hurt chumps are just talking to bots in the IRC!

Let that sink in!

>>105606797
Maybe they're not any worse, but I wouldn't say they're better either. Discord is a complete clusterfuck and writing a bot for it without a library is just miserable.
IRC set the gold standard for a simple and robust protocol, but instead of learning from it, everyone either tries to reinvent Discord or, god forbid, reinvent XMPP.

>>105606884
IRC isn't robust at all. We need file uploads, profile pictures and a decent client that feels intuitive.
My only problem with XMPP is that it forces you to dox your email by default.
All the clients for Matrix are also crap and it's also unintuitive.
Right now me and my friends are on Telegram. They are willing to move but no other protocol is good enough.

>>105607087
>We need file uploads,
you mean normies?
you can upload files to file upload sites and your IRC client will fetch and display them

>profile pictures and a decent client that feels intuitive
patches are welcome. I'm sure you could hack something.

>>105606877
I’d say “joke’s on you — I’m the bot” but I don’t think that’s really all that funny anymore

>>105606877
TorrentLeech IRC is full of chill peeps, so the joke's on you

>>105607279
Yes cause not all my friends are that tech literate, and I don't exactly want to go out of my way to upload pepe.jpeg to a third party server to copypaste the url either. Another thing to consider is mobile applications.

Remember a couple years ago when one of the big IRC servers had a schism and /g/ pretended to give a shit about it for a month because of the gay drama?
lol

>>105607309
>I haven't used more than a few IRC clients so the features I want don't exist
OK man, whatever.

i just use irssi

>>105606729 (OP)
all important discussions moved to matrix, irc is just a sinking ship
but hey at least irc is open source

>>105607325
ok, which clients have file upload and pfp? :|
Does it have bouncer integration? Is there a mobile app that has most of this?
Like how much would I need to explain much to an e-girl?

>>105607376
>ok, which clients have file upload and pfp? :|
none, but many clients can retrieve an image from a URL:
https://old.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/1ajl6gn/irc_with_inline_media_images/

>Does it have bouncer integration? Is there a mobile app that has most of this?
IRCCloud can do that AFAIK

>Like how much would I need to explain much to an e-girl?
I don't know. try it and let us know.

>>105607404
>IRCCloud can do that AFAIK
actually, I don't know about this so you will have to check

>>105607087
I don't think you understand what "robust" means. But yeah, making a retard-proof chat client that isn't a centralized botnet is extremely hard.

>>105606884
nothing more robust than a good old netsplit

>>105606877
Cum on her face

What do you mean forgotten...Elon was talking about XChat the other day.

>>105606729 (OP)
come to #/vt/ and ##/vt/ on rizon

>>105607298
>>TorrentLeech IRC is full of chill peeps
>tracker filled with pajeets
no thanks. there are better networks out there.

>>105607087
>We need file uploads, profile pictures and a decent client that feels intuitive.
No, we don't. Plain text, links to files, and a good nick are all you need.

>>105607309
>Yes cause not all my friends are that tech literate
They don't belong in a chatroom, in that case.

>>105610506
No. Or only after you come to the dpt discord.

>>105606729 (OP)
its called websockets now gramps

Halloy is the most comfy modern irc client

>>105606729 (OP)
Discord is its successor.

>>105607376
>pfp?
It's called an AVATAR you fucking faggot

>>105606817
>the sad state of loonix
more like ubuntu aka jeetbuntu

It's slightly annoying many servers only list the domain name.

Not sure why, i get refuted/socket error on main, connection accepted on the alternative like eu..

>>105613624
I couldn't figure it out.

I am scared to use irc because of the evil anonymous and hackermens

>>105611354
>>105606729 (OP)
well, IRC decided that you need more, that's why every IRC server has a the NickServ bot to register and special settings to not doxx every user by default and then HostServ because its still not enough and then ChanServ because per default, as soon as you leave the channel you created, you lose ownership of it, oh and also bouncers because you can't keep a history otherwise and every user runs its own bouncer. Oh and IRCs file transfer is a direct connection between clients that can dox you as well and it again wasn't considered in the original protocol, but strapped on.

oh wow, IRC is just SOOOO GOOOOD and well thought through! We need to GO BACK

>>105606729 (OP)
I still don't understand why every open source project switched from Freenode immediately to Matrix. What about XMPP? It's far more lightweight, you can literally buy the cheapest VPS you can find with 512 MiB RAM and Prosody will run just fine, with every XMPP feature enabled. I really want to love Matrix, but Element is too fucking buggy, it's not even remotely feasible to host Synapse on a shitty VPS with low disk space and no other homeserver has the feature parity. Even XMPP somehow looks better compared to Matrix.

>>105614592
Decentralized, but we will host it on matrix.org that wants you to register.

>>105606877
lmao

>>105614592
>I still don't understand why every open source project switched from Freenode immediately to Matrix
did they? huh. I had no idea. I thought they had switched to mattermost or some shit.

>>105607313
yeah, who knew that Korean guys in California could be Charlie Sheen during his tiger-blood phase

>>105607376
zoomers are too stupid to understand irc in the current year, nevermind shit like bouncers

<<105614179
>frognigger
>retarded
like clockwork

>>105614179
tl;dr
IRC is king. Discord trannies keep coping.

>>105606877
> she's never used it

>>105606884
>IRC set the gold standard for a simple and robust protocol
factual
> leaning it
not much to learn

>>105614179
> has a mental breakdown
this board is dead, isn't it?

>>105614592
>I still don't understand why every open source project switched from Freenode immediately to Matrix.
never happened.
great to see this board's collective of compulsive liars still lying about the most trivial nonsense.

>>105614008
>Discord is its successor.
lol
no
centralised censored shit

>>105614179
>oh wow, IRC is just SOOOO GOOOOD and well thought through!
you on the left

>>105606729 (OP)
Funny you bring up hexchat today. I just installed it yesterday because I needed to get into contact with a developer to report and fix a bug in a program I use.

#emacs

>>105606729 (OP)
>I am forgotten...
Are you talking about IRC or UBUNTU?

>>105607087
>profile pictures
Why? What difference does it make having LE FUNNAH ANIMATED AVATAR over a user name?

Like, I'd understand image uploads or the ability to embed, but avatars are the least of IRC's issues for "modernity" and I'm an old fag that thinks half that shit (image embeds, file uploads on the "server", etc.) in Discord is useless next to IRC.