Thread 105607431

Why does jewgle struggle so much into taking this bad boy down? Can't they just insert ads that are imposible to skip with scripts? It shouldn't be that hard.

>>105607431 (OP)
>Why does jewgle struggle so much into taking this bad boy down?
It's a mouse and cat race. uBlock Origin contributors are used to do an efficient work and collaborate, making the most of the browser. But Google can only do so much against it, since they are the server and have no control over the browser.
>Can't they just insert ads that are imposible to skip with scripts?
These types of script would just be easily identified and blocked.

>It shouldn't be that hard.
Why don't you do it, present the solution to Google and gain some easy money?

Cue the
>the internet is a pull medium not a push medium
pasta

>>105607431 (OP)
>>105607475
It's trivial to serve ads that cannot be differentiated from a site's normal content. Especially true when the site's content itself is full of shilling.
The issue isn't getting the ads in front of user eyeballs, it's verification and making sure you're using the correct kaballic mind control algorithms on the correct users. Something like youtube really shouldn't be adblockable, but it's being hoisted by its own petard.

Imagine working for Google and having to implement ways to get around ad blockers.
Id just fucking quit on the spot.

>>105607431 (OP)
It's been known that they've been researching a way to include ads in the video stream, instead of the ad coming from it's own stream, so it's more difficult to block.

The problems with that are usually costs because they'd have to change a ton of stuff in how their services work, basically reworking their whole ad API, and even with that, there's some projects like sponsorblock who detect ad segments from Youtubers themselves, so in the end, all that work would probably not be worth it

Forcing Manifest V3 was probably the only thing they could do because at least limits extensions to a certain extent

>>105607549
yeah this desu if youve thought about it for more than 30 seconds

>>105607431 (OP)
I suspect that at least someone in YT is aware that unskippable ads will bring only net negative to them. People will not wait 30+ seconds to see minute long meme video and on top of that Google is HORRIBLE at blocking malicious ads. They bare their fangs and batk but going for the kill would be actually just a suicide for them.

>>105607431 (OP)
>>105607475
>>105607502
>>105607549
>>105607565

OR YOU KNOW

MAYBE JUST SUPPORT THE PEOPLE YOU ARE WATCHING CONTENT FROM?

SMFH

>>105607647
Hmm, nyo.

>>105607647
Why would I do that?

>>105607647
I do, mostly for the uncensored versions they post on patreon. But I will never voluntarily watch an ad.

>>105607647
if youtube had unblockable ads I wouldn't be visiting it at all

/checkmate

>>105607647
No.

I think their best bet would be to compromise and find a type of advertising that's tame enough to not make people care enough to skip it. Something like a 3-5 second static png at the beginning.

>>105607475
If anyone ever worked in enterprise they know how inefficient everything is and how people are slow at doing anything. Sometimes all the corpo-borbo bullshit is in such scale you waste weeks waiting for approval to make a 1 hour job. The other facet is that employed people often aren't actually good at their job. The independent developers are free from such bullshit so they can run circles around them and they have motivation for doing that, because the thing they are working on matters so it's not soul crushing bullshit job. And there is not much development needed at this point. They probably just need to look for changes in requests, analyze them and think of new block rules.

>>105608624
You are spot on.

>>105607647
The only right way to support is supporting them directly with donations. That way they actually get the money you spent and not a trillion dollar company which shares a fraction of the money. In perfect world instead of youtube we would have p2p torrent like network when you can search for videos, have a rss feed for authors that will push you new files to download. The system would be self-sustainable. Author always seeds their videos, peers are free to seed, but can remove the video after watching. If no-one seeds there is still a master copy and authors themselves should backup their media themselves. The best part is you can have it in background and watch it offline in your favorite player. Comments to a video could work by posting to mailing list which would be automatically created for every author. There could also be aggregating feeds for various categories of videos and a mailing list for platform itself where you can suggest adding new categories and other changes. Everything should be open source. It would be truly a YOU Tube.

>>105607431 (OP)
I'm surprised they didn't just neuter ublock origin completely on chrome. Most people are retards that will sit there watching ads rather than switch to firefox.

>>105607565
The jeets lack morals/ethic to do that. It's also the reason why they never manage to push ads for more than a few days.

google are the ones funding ublock origin

>>105609391
Deepest lore

>>105607431 (OP)
>Why does jewgle struggle so much into taking this bad boy down? Can't they just insert ads that are imposible to skip with scripts? It shouldn't be that hard.
What shouldn't be hard is you and your dinosaur business practices fucking off back over to TV land, where you should have stayed, and leaving the internet alone.

>>105608715
>Most people are retards that will sit there watching ads rather than switch to firefox.
so true.

>>105607431 (OP)
It doesn't work on my edge browser

>>105610103
[insert satania pic cuz am lazy]
softToddler BTFO

>>105607431 (OP)
>Why does jewgle struggle so much
its all pajeets. mountains of pajeets.

>>105607647
If content creation is your sole source of income or the majority of it then you have a big problem.

>>105607431 (OP)
Think of it like the Soviet-Afghan war, the Soviets (jewgle) are using severely outdated massed army movement tactics in a landscape where it just doesn't work, the Taliban can just move a small group in, lay down some mines, hit them with a few pot shots, then fuck off back into the mountains, by the time the Soviets can send an entire fucking mobilized platoon into position which includes trying to move fucking tanks up a mountain the Taliban is already long gone.

I find it gratifying on a spiritual level that an army of streetshitting webshitters is desperately trying to get me to watch an ad for window treatments. Sucks to suck.

>>105607647
No.
If you want money get a real job.

>>105607549
Outdated POV while ublock doesn't implement anything like this, it is entirely possible now to run content through analysis and not show it to the user, the only way to prevent that would be to have the ad be part of the content itself.

>>105607647
I prefer to support them with merch. They get far more money that way and I get a shirt with something sarcastic on it. Best part jewgle gets nothing,

>>105607549
>It's trivial to serve ads that cannot be differentiated from a site's normal content.
its not trivial, youd have to have some backdoor on the server that communicates the user requesting the ads details through it, then serves an ad in response. seems insecure and exploitable. when all you need to do now to serve ads is copy paste javascript codeblocks into your template files / static page.

if twitch were able to stop ublock from blocking ads, then youtube surely would be able to do the same, no? or is it much easier to do that on a live stream than it is videos?

>>105613674
well when i would watch twitch i could stream the feed to mpv, when ad breaks came on it would just show a static image until the ad break was over. thats preferable to using the browser and seeing ads if ublock doesnt work.
>then youtube surely would be able to do the
the difference could be as simple as you have more knowledgeable/invested people working on youtube and not devoting as much time to twitch.

>>105608686
>In a perfect world instead of youtube we would have Odysee

>>105610103
But it works in my Edge.

>>105607431 (OP)
blocking ads is a human right

>>105607431 (OP)
Normies are literally conditioned into believing that ad blockers are a "virus". Most people that use youtube don't have ad blockers installed or know what they are.