Thread 105613507

Linux users should familiarize with this macOS feature called stage manager, consider gnome or kde will indeed steal it.

https://youtu.be/B7t_BCmY-lg

Why should I familiarize myself with alt+tab for retards when I have normal alt+tab (hold alt and press tab)

>>105613507 (OP)
Wow, it's literally stuff i could do already 20 fucking years ago with compiz/beryl.. plus wobbly on fire windows.

>>105613507 (OP)
literally retarded

>>105613507 (OP)
why not just click the open program on the dock?

>>105613507 (OP)
>Stole another worthless feature from Window Vista Award
You were supposed to go forward, not backwards.

>>105613507 (OP)
stage manager is trash, not even I as a macOS user is using it.

>>105614311
Not a same thing, it's not alt tab switcher.

>>105613507 (OP)
>consider gnome or kde will indeed steal it
probably GNOME yes. KDE steals from Windows, not Mac

>Alt + tab
>Mission control
>Launchpad
>Spotlight
>Virtual desktops
>Stage manager
Too many ways to switch contexts in this absolute piece of shit of an OS.

What's that supposed to be, a giant taskbar on the side of the screen?

>>105613507 (OP)
Gotta say I've ignored it for 2 years and forced myself to use it now, I kinda like it but it's basically taskbar behavior with groups of windows.

i just wonder when they are going to steal liquid glass and what DE will do it first

looks a bit useless, something about their metaphorical naming scheme puts me off, feels patronizing

>>105614455
There's several themes like that are years old. Pretending Apple did that shit first would be retarded.

>>105614444
It's not taskbar not even close, can't have grouped multiple windows.

>>105614500
Yeah ok you have groups of windows and auto-minimize for non focused windows.
It is different then.

I don't like how you have stage manager, snapping windows, virtual desktops and fullscreen mode.
And exposé includes all windows in stage manager.
It feels like an unfinished multitasking flow.

Apple literally won since this WWDC.

>muh automation
>muh power user features
show me ONE tool that's as powerful as the reworked spotlight/raycast or shortcuts which can trigger on retarded shit like receiving a message.

>>105614487
from what i understand liquid glass also refracts things behind the UI elements instead of just blurring them and that's the part i find interesting

>>105614572
bash? if you can't access imessage events (or anything else that happens on your comouter) via your shell it will only ever be because the company that develops the proprietary OS you run has imposed artificial limitations.

>>105613507 (OP)
compiz could do this 20 years ago

>>105614894
it couldn't

>>105613507 (OP)
it's over
loonix is bankrupt and finished

>>105613507 (OP)
are the linux users in the room with us right now?

>>105613507 (OP)
i never use this on my MBP, most retarded shit i've experienced since the passing of rim jobs

>>105616056
t. too poor for a mac

>>105616717
my workstation at home costs more than a toy mac

>>105613507 (OP)
Look at that dogshit performance ahhahahaahahahahahahaha

>>105614410
This. All these context switching tools, yet custom hammerspoon scripts still beat all of them

>>105613507 (OP)
macOS is legit but you can't install it on any modern x86 system. Apple hardware is nice but I want to play games on my computer and I don't need Adobe. So I use Linux. If I could install macOS on my 9950X 9070XT system and play games I would but alas
I can't really justify it on a notebook either considering I bought HX 370 Asus notebook with 32GB and 120Hz for barely over half of what basic M4 Macbook Pro costs. I don't play games on it but I'm not paying more for worse hardware just to use a (somewhat) superior OS.
macOS is 8/10 (ignoring vidya compatibility)
Linux is 7/10
Windows is 5/10

this is just a worse gnome overview

>>105617153
>I want to play games on my computer
grow up manchild

>>105617911
gnome stole from macos too

>>105613507 (OP)
I barely even use this feature on my iPad
Linux workspaces have been a thing since forever, with Windows even copying the feature on Windows 10
And doesn't KDE have this feature already (Activities)? I don't really use KDE so I'm not sure

>>105617911
Nah it's not exactly the same, Stage Manager lets you group windows and bring them to the foreground at once
I don't think it's that useful, personally

>>105613507 (OP)
i dont use gnoem or kde

>>105617153
OS X obliterated Linux at its peak but these days you're not missing out on much. It's pretty unpleasant to use without one of Apple's trackpads.

>>105614500
Mac is Unix.

>>105618019
>surrendering the most important propaganda and indoctrination outlet to jews and chinks without a fight
the whitoid race still working hard for its well deserved extinction i see

>>105618037
it didn't they took most of the design ideas from webOS

you can see it here

https://youtu.be/vfbmLQmMPl4?si=gjLd-kKIDC-yUCWE

>>105613507 (OP)
>stage manager
>mission control
>spotlight search
>app launcher

Gnome shell and KDE overview already have all these in one convenient screen that you get to by just hitting the super key
Every year that goes by I am amazed that macos can't just unify this instead of breaking it into several ui features each with a different shortcut.
Linux DEs surely won't implement this because it would be a major step back.

>>105614899
it could do more

>>105614398
its literally a fancy sideloaded alt tab

anyone who says otherwise is just a shill

>>105613507 (OP)
stage manager was the most hyper gay macos feature i had ever had the pleasure of using in my entire life, it was so gay i got cum in my asshole while using it.

>>105619042
GNOME will implement it because they wish they were Apple employees and KDE devs will implement it to appease redditors.

As an i3wm superior form of life I don't give a flying FUCK about this or alt+tab peasantry.

>>105619894
you're a hypocrite if you have more than 1 workspace

>>105613631
>(hold alt and press tab)
Needing to keep alt pressed is deprecated.
You want to trigger a filterable dialog with a single alt+tab press and then use arrows and enter.

I made threads when this came out back in the day because I knew it was a good thing that raises the standard of mainstream window management.

>>105613507 (OP)
We had workspaces 30 years ago on Linux

>>105618348
nope it was called expose and they added it in 2003

>>105619042
cope

>>105613507 (OP)
>macniggers invented alttab

>>105622294
we did

What's the use case of this over simply tiling your windows? Only used it twice since it came out, completely forgot it existed.

>>105613507 (OP)
I've always disabled this shit. I can't wait for Apple to remove it.

>>105623083
The use case is to cope with MacOS's inherently fucked window management in a way that doesn't tacitly admit to the fact that MacOS has inherently fucked window management.

based

>>105613507 (OP)
wow that's something i never use on macos
really looks like a killer feature
I'm sure that's better than uhhhh

>>105618037
It's actually the reverse, macos looks the way it does because they've been systematically copying gnome since 3 released, same shit with microsoft copying every single kde thing released since windows 7.

>>105624350
nice damage control, name one thing they copied from gnome

>>105613507 (OP)
Literal Compiz vibes, extreme cringe lmao

>>105624447
The installed app overview is clearly copied from gnome, the way the GUI toolkit looks is clearly copied from gnome, since you know, macos didn't look like that before gnome 3 released, you literally install a macos like theme on gnome, put the window buttons on the left side and they're indistinguishable from one another.

>>105620173
That's literally way fucking slower though dumbass.

>>105626965
Sure it can be a bit slower but now you can actually comfortably take your time to select what you need and you can type to filter, without a rush.

oh yea i remember that

>>105627176
haha

>>105613507 (OP)
Uhh anon, the taskbar has existed on windows long before that

>>105624538
>The installed app overview
copied from iOS (gnome devs stole it from iOS)

>the GUI toolkit
flat shit was introduced in iOS before gnome, and it looks nothing like gnome

>they're indistinguishable from one another.
you're blind

gnome devs always steal shit from iOS, Android and macOS

I'm a longterm Fedora + GNOME/Hyprland user. Use a macbook for work, and Stage manager is useful but there are many instances where it becomes too bothersome to keep using. It should allow use two windows at the same time, instead of forcing me to change it again. And emergent windows may be hidden unless you disable it.
In the end, it gets in your way. I think it should be a feature in other DEs to quickly change between windows in the same desktop, when it works is great.

it's like they looked at workspaces and tiling wm's and tried something like those without really understanding why you'd want to use them

>>105627237
want to know something even funnier?
steve jobs threatened to sue the guy who made that
if you think that 3D dock looks really macos-ey, keep in mind that was in 2003, 4 years before osx 10.5

>>105620124
I have 4. One for each monitor you serf.

>>105629372
cope
you're still using multi workspace features

>>105613507 (OP)
Is it still visible with a window maximized? If no, what's the point? If yes, why the fuck is it still visible?

>>105613507 (OP)
Stolen, also highly inefficient. Why can't macOS innovate? Enjoy liquid ass waste.

>>105613507 (OP)
I feel like so many of these features are just made so that investors can see "progress" or whatever happening. When would you ever use this? The swipe gestures already do this, and they're much less clunky and can display more windows in a more straightforward manner.

>>105613507 (OP)
based

>>105629444
cope

>>105628569
It looks like iTunes Cover Flow. It was released in 2006, one year before Vista.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_Flow

>>105633619
I'm still mad they took the cover flow option away from finder and the file picker. It was the absolute best way to quickly skim through a billion random pics.

>>105613507 (OP)
>alt+tab
>virtual desktop
>(kde) windows+w
>(kde) mouse to top left (or mapping some other shortcut)
What an amazing feature! The efficiency it would add to my workflow!

>>105634475
it was an OpenGL widget and no one in nu-apple's DEI team was skilled enough to port it to Metal

linjeets btfo

>>105633619
it only happens to look like cover flow there as that's how the windows were placed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLFkG-f1aqw

>>105613553
cope lincel

>>105617153
How's it 'legit' when you can't even install arbitrary software? I don't want to have to depend on people paying some fee to sign shit.

>>105613507 (OP)
totally vestigial window management for ipads

>>105638022
you can install anything

>>105638268
That's not what people tell me, I was told you have to pay $100 to sign your software or some shit or people won't be able to run it.

>>105638402
not him but i believe you can change a setting to allow unsigned programs, like you can on android

>>105638410
I wouldn't want to rely on users having to do that if I was releasing software, they'll just bitch and send complaints. Much easier to tell MacOS users to fuck off.

>>105613507 (OP)
I've already used it on ipad, it's a less polished version of vista's switcher wheel. Hopefully this new version will be a full convergence of ios and osx, something they have promised and not delivered on for years.

>>105614682
>https://x.com/mitchellh/status/1935389447023116360
Totally wasting my time with retarded bullshit for which i'll also need to hack in a shortcut for gnome search or whatever

>>105613507 (OP)
Stage manager is a gay shit feature nobody uses, even on the ipad it was developed for.

>>105639931
Yeah I forced myself to use it for a couple of days, it was nice at first but windows popping up pushing the current one in the back, and things like steam completely ignoring it pissed me off.
Feels like they released it as a novelty and never took user feedback to improve it.

The world would be a better place if people stopped arguing about stupid fucking dumb shit and actually started coding "better software" if you dislike something you can still try to do better, but since your whole existance is to argue "yeah i'm better because i use this" and not doing anything useful to humanity exept making monkey noises you will be retarded for your whole existance

>>105640222
The world would be better if operating systems would let us instead of deliberately killing all competition to their own features.

>>105640222
this was hard to read, like it was written backwards

linux users?
more like linux losers
or as i've recently taken to calling them, lusers!

>>105638437
yea, the mac os crowd are definitely the "it just werks" kind of crowd, needing to -got forbid- use your computer is just not acceptable. they will pay you to avoid clicking a button, exploit that.

>>105640556
LMAO #REKT

>>105640556
oh no no no no

>>105613507 (OP)
>.gif

my brother in Christ, webm exists
go back to 2002

>>105641554
cope

>>105640556
brutal

>>105640556
>>105640678
>>105642114
let your joy be in your journey not some distant goal

>>105642221
what did timapple mean by this

>>105642582
"just bee yourself" - the ceo of fucking apple

>>105642582
Basically shut the fuck up when the hype wears off and your ishit device battery explodes.

>>105642668
More like just Jeet yourself

>>105642221
>>105642582
>>105642668
>>105642696
>>105642754
creativity and innovation are something you can't flowchart out

>>105642780
meds

>>105613507 (OP)
mac and windows are the ones who are stealing shit gnome and kde had for 20 years, 0 original ideas

>>105613507 (OP)
I've never even messed with this on macOS. I just use Mission Control when I want to switch windows.

>>105613507 (OP)
>Linux users should familiarize with this macOS feature called stage manager, consider gnome or kde will indeed steal it.
On KDE, this is just four fingers up on the trackpad gesture

>>105645934
cope

>>105613507 (OP)
Using a gif to shill for a rebranding of afeature that has existed since 2003 (at latest) in 2025 on every major OS (even MacOS itself). Going full circle.

>>105613507 (OP)
>another stolen feature that palm invented over 2 decades ago
has any modern desktop come up with a single unique idea that they didn't copy from palm like monkeys? should all mac windows and linux devs kill themselves?

>>105613507 (OP)
>>105614899
This was stolen from linux. Compiz Fusion had a feature I think it was called 'Thumbnail aside' or something and it minimized windows to a small docked position on the screen. This was in about 2005. Can't wait for retard apple to claim they invented wobbly windows or the desktop cube.
You can still get the effect in Compiz I think you have to run an older version of Gnome, and install the misc/extra effects from synaptic.

Interesting idea but the amount of free space between the windows and active window seems large enough to ask "why not alt-tab".

>>105613507 (OP)
i can feel the lag

based