I bought a MacBook air and I like it a lot.

What went so right?

>>105616295 (OP)
cute dog

>notch
They're still forcing that meme?

>>105616295 (OP)
I have the m4 MacBook Pro. It’s nice.

Congrats on coming out of the closet faggotron

>>105616295 (OP)
Get good firewall.
https://objective-see.org/products/lulu.html

>>105616295 (OP)
Also, if you want good safari based non spying browser where you can use both Firefox and chrome extensions.

https://kagi.com/orion/

i just bought one too. it feels awesome to use. i still feel guilty though because /g/ makes me feel bad about giving in and being a faggot.
the only bullshit i have experienced so far is i cannot keep the device awake when closed and plugged into hdmi though a usb-c adapter. i always have to have the lid slightly cracked when on battery in this case. everything else is really good. use iina for video
>pic related

>>105617148
neat. what's the catch?

>>105616295 (OP)
Silicon and it just werks. All my shit is now MacOS or custom desktop builds with Linux, Windows is a bloated slow turd, even with ARM.

>>105616295 (OP)
youre no longer poor or le edgy

>>105617317
https://ss64.com/mac/caffeinate.html
or just use Amphetamine from the goystore

>>105616461
notch is a great guy

>>105616295 (OP)
Redpill me on the $500 M4 chip Mac mini.

>>105617501
its the desktop version of a macbook for 1/3 the price

>>105617501
probably the best computer you can buy right now unless you need gaymen, but the switch 2 just dropped so that should keep your autism in check for atleast a year or two then you can go back to not playing on your steamdeck

>>105617501
Overpriced garbage, for that price you can get double the ram and quadruple the storage with better performance

>>105617520
Even then it's alright for some games, since some are actually being optimized for Mac, and Proton through Steam has been really good and in some cases better than native on Windows.

>>105617526
True. To be honest I'd just get an M3 Mac Mini since you can get a 1TB SSD and 16 or 32gb RAM for about as much as the M4 Mini (if you find a sale, which there are plenty of). Yearly upgrades in chips are pretty meh so going a previous chip is just as good.

>>105616295 (OP)
I'm still using my Air 2017. It's a little slow, but works.

>>105617547
Show me those sales anon if they are so plenty

>>105617501
Waste of money

>>105617559
Depends on the store but I've seen some good ones like that, same with the Macbook Airs. I've seen M2 1TB Airs go for the same price as base M3s and M4s before too.

>>105617572
So just in your imagination? No actual links? got it.

>>105616295 (OP)
Install Topnotch so the hideous notch becomes invisible

>>105616295 (OP)
I mean, it's a laptop and it works like a laptop
No games tho

>>105617594
Do I look like a search engine to you? Look for yourself, fucktard.

>>105617617
I search, its all overpriced shit, no sales, you lied.

>>105617680
>I search saar, is all lies, bloody bastard

>>105616295 (OP)
>feel like buyfagging
Should I get an m4 air, or wait for the m5 pro? Going to do dev work and general surfing.

>>105616295 (OP)
>Horrendous IPS backlight bleed

Or better, have no camera at all.

>>105616295 (OP)
Install FireFucks with UBlack and you're all set.

>>105617688
Now try faking it

>>105617594
>>105617680
NTA but in my country, the M2 goes on sale a lot and the prices include much higher specs than the base M4 for the same price.

Why is it called the MacBook Air when it's not air-cooled?

>>105617773
It's lightweight

>>105617773
The heat dissipates into the air and it's incredibly lightweight. The whole body is aluminum, so it does a good job.

>>105616295 (OP)
You got a nice comfy house

>>105617728
Yeah, show me

>>105617773
it is air-cooled thoughbeit

>>105616295 (OP)
wow a macbook. so nice. its like wow i went to the apple store and i plopped down my apple card and got it financed because i totes need it for my english degree. do you by any chance have a balldo?

>>105617884
Nick Rekeita uses a Mac?

>>105616295 (OP)
Johny Srouji (the head of hardware) is really good at his job
the Jony Ive butterfly-keyboard bullshit got thrown out the airlock
the Jony Ive “lul only one port” bullshit got reversed
inverted T is an inverted T again

>>105616295 (OP)
the webcam design is beyond fucking retarded and look at the light leaking out of those keys, that's abysmal considering the price of such a device. jesus christ.

>>105616461
>thick ass bezels
They're still forcing that meme?

>>105617527
rosetta is deprecated

>>105617547
M3 mac mini doesn't exist anon

>>105616461
Oh man I just love gigantic bezels

>>105618453
>2012 big bezels
Well yeah, such was the time, especially on small netbooks. And it was based since Windows 7 was still around.

>>105618395
That's not even close to bad.
>>105618453
Now post a more recent pre-notch model.

>>105616295 (OP)
>>105618395
notch aside that macbook air from OP still has huge bezels (not that bezels are le evil)

>>105618523
>That's not even close to bad.
It's shit.

>>105618453
>he never used a laptop in the 10s
thats what they all fucking looked like

>>105618529
it's how apple differentiate between pro and air

>>105618523
Still massive

>>105618554
still huge

>>105618555
>>105618477
2003 bezels on a powerbook

>>105618567
Post a non-huge one.

>>105618555
>model from 6 years ago
And here's one from 4 years ago.

>>105618547
>>105618555
Would rather have a slightly thicker bezel than a fucking notch... or hey, how about we just remove the webcam? Then everyone's happy.

>>105618581
>Would rather have a slightly thicker bezel than a fucking notch
And why the fuck? So you can have less screen?

>>105618570
It was the period around 2010 that ruined everything, with 16:9 screens everywhere and manufacturers increasing the side bezels to match the top and bottom ones
Sure let's cater to retards watching hollywood slop on their shitty 16 inch TN panels

>>105616295 (OP)
I had the macbook air m3 but I needed more power so I bought the macbook pro m4 pro when it released. but I must say the air was powerful too when I used it (but still not enough for what I wanted to do) with docker and big projects open + vscode and figma

>>105618597
>It was the period around 2010 that ruined everything, with 16:9 screens everywhere
Not a problem with Apple.

>>105618581
You can always disable the notch by switching the internal display to a 16:9 screen resolution. I don't see the problem.

>>105618658
16:10*

there is no equivalent to macs

macs have:
>soldered SSD/RAM/WLAN
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 years
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replace
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen times
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcam
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flights
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware accelerators
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keys
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs

>keyboards with 63.5% failure rate
unheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"
just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any good
this list goes on forever
there's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter books
they are one of the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones

>>105618670
>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen times
This was the case for every HP laptop I ever owned.

>>105618670
>all this jeet stuff
This never makes sense, Apple is the least used OS or product of jeets.

>>105616295 (OP)
chonky fella ur dog

>>105618754
For you

>>105616461
recent stinkpad has reverse notch just to be contrarian.

>>105618570
Now compare the specs and performance

>>105618775
and it's better for it

is there any reason why I should ooopdate?

>>105618573
The M1 Macbook Air was the last Macbook without a notch, released in 2020.

>>105618453
Posting from one of those as we speak, the 11 incher is COMFY as a motherfucker and the bezels are as much of a non issue as the notch. Not our fault you got shit taste.

>>105616295 (OP)
Looks shit

>>105616295 (OP)
I'm with ya, anon. I got mine on sale at Costco. I have a still-capable gaming laptop but wanted something silent and portable to remote into my windows desktop. I love not lugging a power brick, I love silence, I love the battery life, I love the screen and I love the connection with my iphone (2fa codes from phone on my screen is awesome), ipad (additional touchscreen) and airpods. I really miss having 10 key and will have to buy a portable chink one I fear. I also can't into using the windows app on full screen with an external monitor, but haven't had >>105617317
>5
's issue. I do fear dust getting in the keyboard, as this cunt goes in a backpack every day. I hate getting used to the close/minimize being on the left. This is America, after all.

>>105619109
>tfw Mac Air for laptop/travel uses and desktop custom Linux build for everything else

>>105619207
MBP M1 Pro for work and desktop and Thinkpad with Arch for everything else.
Wish I had a Macbook Air (M3 or newer) instead desu, sometimes I need to carry two laptops and my bag gets a bit bulky.

>>105619250
I'm actually struggling to decide if I get an M4 Air and get the large SSD and extra RAM, or if I get M4 Pro with the slightly lesser specs, since the price comes out as cheaper with the Air. I feel like my M2 does alright with some video and photo editing, but definitely doesn't have enough storage or RAM for properly using 4K editing or large RAW files (since I upgraded my camera gear recently).

>>105619283
Shame Apple is fucking customers over with external display limitations, otherwise I would've been happy with an M2 Air with 16GB of memory.

>>105619324
I'm happy to just edit on the Airs screen to be honest. I also only have the 8GB model since at the time I planned on just using it for being away from home and not doing much, but I've found I enjoy using it, so I've been wondering if I go with
>M4 Air with 16 or 32GB, 512GB or 1TB SSD
Or
>M4 Pro 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD
The price roughly sits about equal, with the Air being slightly cheaper with those specs, but I'm wondering if the Pro with its fans and slightly beefier GPU is more worthwhile (though I like the Air the most for being thin and completely silent).

>>105619324
Reportedly a DisplayLink adapter seems to work, with the caveat being that you need to disconnect it before you can play DRM-protected video (streaming services, not YT).

>>105619347
What's your workload? Passive cooling on the air is pretty good until you push the thing to its limit for extended time, like 4k 3d/video editing/rendering.

Anything less intensive than that (including running dozens of Docker containers and multiple IDEs for your projects) should™ be fine on an Air.

>>105619452
Probably one task at a time and doing some 4K video editing. I've been doing it on my M2 Air with only 8GB and it's handled it like a champ, but I do see the swap memory getting touched often (unsurprising obviously) but the temp never really seems to increase even if I'm editing for an hour or two. Lightroom also fucks the swap memory pretty hard and I guess that's just Adobe, since Davinci Resolve barely touches swap if I'm doing a 1080 edit.

>>105619476
FYI I remember people saying m3/m4 airs do get (significantly?) hotter than m1/m2 airs. Might be worth looking into.

Imho, get the m4 pro with 16/512. The screen and audio are much better. An extra 512 gb on the air is nice, but there's probably lots of shit you can offload to a NAS or the cloud anyway.

>>105619509
I had the m3 air 16/512 and it didn't get hot, even with docker and other big stuff running.
Got the macbook pro m4 pro 24/1tb now, that's a beast.

>>105619509
I generally keep most of my shit on an external SSD, but I guess I was just thinking about how iCloud Syncs literally everything and uploaded video files to iCloud means they always end up on the Mac and I have to offload them.

I'm very tempted by the Pro the most since 512GB should be enough for me but I've just wondered if 16GB really is enough RAM.

>>105619532
Jelly. I have a mbp m1 base model (8/256) I use for hobby projects. My workhorse is a pimped out t480 but it's on its knees with the slop we call code at work. My m1 committed sudoku the instant I tried to get some work done on there.

Considering getting a m4 pro 16/512 in a few years to replace both machines.

>>105619550
>I've just wondered if 16GB really is enough RAM
Anecdotally I'm surprised with how much my m1 mbp 8/256 can handle. I do need to run OrbStack instead of Docker Desktop, but it's handling that + jetbrains IDEs just fine. It's only when I open 10+ browser tabs, discord, spotify/youtube AND slack at the same time where it starts to swap.

>>105619570
True, I've been pretty amazed with how the M2 8/256gb has handled everything I throw at it. It doesn't even touch swap if I edit 1080 videos but does for 4K, and I never see swap get used if I'm doing pretty much anything else. It also never slows down or gets warm even when doing the 4K shit, it's pretty incredible.
Meanwhile my Windows laptop would get pretty hot and kick on the fans if I just tried editing some photos in Lightroom.

>>105617501
Best puter price/performance ratio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsA8YbYLrDM

jay thread

>>105617569

Right because more specs = better computer.
Bigger number means you can do more.
That's really all there is to it.

>>105619817
meds not taken

>>105618670
I swear to God I saw this whole copypasta at least 40 times in Mac threads, y'all are like pathetic insect scums impossible to get rid off

The screenshot you shows the time for compiling Linux in it's DEFAULT configuration, x86_64 crosscompilation with an ARM chip but of course you no coder pajeets will never say that, Apple Silicon already proved to be beasts of compilation.

Also who the fuck cares about compiling Loonix like if it's any relevant? Is that what Loonix users do everyday?

>>105620378
I'm esl btw, if that matters

>>105617317
>use iina for video
>tries to be a macfag-specific mpv fork
>still doesnt do hardware acceleration properly ootb
just use mpv

gay loser virgin

>>105620812
nu-mpv is such a shitshow now. i just repackage mkv to m4v and watch them in quicktime

>>105618572
nah, but asus is better at bezel-less

>>105619438
Kind of expensive for something I'd only use for work though

>>105616295 (OP)
based. I use my MBA M3 mostly for programming, web dev stuff, sound mixing and blender.

my macbook air m1 makes me so so hard bros

>>105616461
pathetic
my 10" sub 300 quid chuwi minibook managed to included a webcam without a notch.

>>105623456
to quote steve jobs: "yuck!"

>>105618670
this kills the currynigger

>>105623650
notches are indeed yucky

>>105623456
>bezels

>>105623776
t. iNigger

>>105616295 (OP)
They brought back the old keyboard and MagSafe. For that reason the minimum anyone should look at now going forward is M2 Air (or 14” Pro)

>>105617526
Not really

>>105617501
Recently bought one and it's everything my millennial ass wants in a computer in 2025. It's fast, took no time to set up, does everything I need, which is administrative shit and a handful of unix tools. iTerm 2 is amazing. If you have all the periphery and don't need gaymen, it's the best option. I'm pretty sure it outclasses my 2014 gaymen desktop while using a factor 20 less power.

>>105616295 (OP)
macOS is one of the worst designed operating systems, they seek simplicity and usability so much they achieved to make an operating system that's quite literally imposible to use with how garbage the UX is.
Finder is the worst file manager I've ever used.

>>105624261
>ahem guys im mentally ill and i choose to HATE macOS due to my mental instability
ok retard

>>105616295 (OP)
im gonna just leave this here

>>105624336
>That dude has a different opinion than mine, that means he's bonkers
How much does applel pay you for this blatant advertising?