>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/DYQCcJwH

Previous: >>105609264

What do Intel and AMD need to do to take NVIDIA's GPU market share? Is it even possible in the foreseeable future?

>>105616985
the support that came with the card is 2.5in at its minimum height hence too tall for the 1.9in clearance I have

>>105616993
It's literally impossible since Nvidia has the best engineers in the business

I tried changing voltage/clock settings in MSI Afterburner but now my card won't go to idle mode even if I reset the settings to default. Wat do?

>>105616993
Radeon sells well among DIY pc builders but most pc gamers are larping console fags that just by a prebuilt with an 8gb 5060 in it because they see RTX in the listing and heard that was good.

>>105617004
isnt there a pcie slot further away from the shroud for the gpu

What’s a good upgrade to the 6600 that’s not too expensive and not from Nvidia?

>>105616993
AMD just wants Radeon to be relevant enough to get developer support for their software features like FSR4,
The developer support is gradually going to improve because the PS5 Pro and the PS6 will be using a similar upscaling solution.
AMD earns more money by producing Epyc/Ryzen CCDs out of the 4nm TSMC wafers.

Intel knows their Battlemage GPUs are not profitable enough to increase production.
They need to develop more area-efficient & performant GPUs before they're serious about increasing market share.

>>105617042
no it's mounted on the top slot. The bottom slot wouldn't even fit this gpu. It's probably the thickest 5080

>>105617067
I dont get it, its on top slot, theres a pcie slot below it but its 4.826cm above the shroud
what

So i really want a pc part on amazon that is out of stock. What is a good way to get an alert when it comes back in stock so I can buy it?

The actual amazon listing itself does not show any alert function.

>>105617015
Go to the fan tab in the options and check whether your custom fan curve is disabled.
Worst case, just uninstall Afterburner.

You shouldn't unlock voltage control or voltage monitoring in Afterburner in the General tab.
1.1V is enough for a daily OC, the chip runs extremely power inefficiently past that.

>>105617082
the pcie below is covered entirely by the gpu cooler
the gpu is like 3 inches thick

>>105617111
Make a small tower out of some cardboard box paper (cut and stack the papers).
Use a book, be creative.
Which 5080 model is this?

>>105617111
why would they ship a mount support that wont fit with that ridiculous cooler size on most case configs

>>105617099
I wanted to undervolt.

>>105617166
Undervolt shouldn't mess with the default fan curve, especially since the GPU will be running at or below 1V.
Go to the MSI Afterburner folder (inside Program Files (x86) by default), go to the Profiles folder, and either move or delete all the files.
It will restore Afterburner to default settings.

>>105617046
Probably the 9060XT 16GB or a used card if you don't care about FSR4.
The 9060XT's raw performance isn't better than a 6800 non-XT.

>>105617252
>9060 XT
Whoa that’s really cheap, how much better is it to the 6600? I actually bought the 6600 in January and it’s working wonderfully running everything at 1080p, but I want a stronger GPU to be set for the next 10 or so years.

>>105617154
idk they're retarded and it's the same msi arm that every msi gpu comes with now
>>105617137
MSI Supreme, the stupid shape means that a lot of supports also can't really go on the very corners since they're diagonal

>>105617283
I doubt the 9060XT will last you ten years, none of the GPU designers want people to own a video card for that long.
They are deliberately underspeccing most of the gaming GPUs to encourage people to buy a better card every 2~3 new generations.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9060-xt-prime-oc-16-gb/

If I were you, I'd just wait™ for the next get -60 series cards since you're content with the RX 6600.

Reminder, 32" Monitors are far superior to the 27" ones when it comes to OLED.

Did moot get desperate for new pass signups with requiring captcha for literally all posts
man its tiresome

>gaming is my hobby!
>I spend at least thousand hours of my life every year in a game!
>oh no the evil hardware company is FORCING me to buy a new GPU every 4 to 6 years!
>how am I going to afford this when I have 2 dogs, 3 children, alimony, student debt to pay back AND my automotive modding hobby!?

>>105617099
4090 can't hold 3000mhz even at 1.125v?

>>105617093
bump

>>105617665
https://www.guru3d.com/story/rumor-has-it-that-amd-is-planning-a-radeon-rx-9080-xt/
Meanwhile 9080 XT this fall will hit 3.7ghz at stock and be able to hit 4 after overclocking. Novideo can't into speed lmao.

>>105617694
>xhe believes a 9080XT is coming out
LOL

>>105617099
>per kilowatt
i thought you fags said fermi was ded

>Hotspot temps are considered normal up to ~95–100°C on most NVIDIA and AMD GPUs
True? I'd consider that more insane than "normal"

>>105617665
Because the 4090 has over 16K CUDA cores, the 4080 Super has just a bit over 10K cores by comparison (5080 has 10.7K).
More processor cores usually means they have a lower boost ceiling.

Can't make a cross-vendor GPU core comparison, but the 7900XTX has 6144 shading units compared to the 9070XT's 4096.

>>105617808
Crazy how much of a waste 50 series has been. Unless you like modest memory bandwidth improvement and AI™ features. Even the 5090 is barely worth considering and that's if at MSRP.

>>105617792
It's normal, that's why GPU Boost's performance throttling accounts for the other GPU temperature sensor.

Can anyone help me out, is HDR supposed to work this way?

I have an OLED monitor that is HDR10/HDR True Black 400.

HDR on windows is fucky, the colors are all screwed up, I'm using DP1.4 and when I turn on HDR display stream compresison is forced on in the monitor, is this causing the colors ot be fucked up and would getting an HDMI 2.1 cable fix it? Even after using the windows calibration tool the colors are still kind of weird, the only thing that fixes it is swapping the color profile from sRGB to P3, and that makes the colors look normal again. Is this is a normal requirement, having to swap color profiles in the monitor each time you want to watch HDR content? Kind of a pain in the ass.

>>105617927
I have an OLED with true HDR and the colour gets swapped to srgb when HDR is enabled so it's normal I think

>>105617927
There's a separate SDR content brightness slider option that appears when you activate Windows HDR.
You need to lower that slider to a level that makes sense for you, but it's recommended to enable HDR only when you're consuming HDR content (Windows key + Alt + B hotkey).
Your monitor should leave the sRGB preset when you enable HDR and vice versa, update your monitor's firmware if the SDR/HDR profiles aren't automatically switching.

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/heres-why-you-should-only-enable-hdr-mode-on-your-pc-when-you-are-viewing-hdr-content
https://github.com/Maassoft/ColorControl/issues/326

>>105617849
5090 is understandably the scraps of the AI intended GB202 with support for 96GB of vram. I just don't get why nvidia even bothered spending billions on designing and taping out the rest of lackwell when they could have easily just rebranded ada and sell higher chip bins for lower cost and pocket the savings in r&d.

>>105613734
Just very subtle changes, better board and psu and change of cooler and ssd to save a cheeseburger.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/yFnQv4

Bro it's been 10 years and if I want better motion than my TN panel I have to get an OLED that will burn-in in 12 months because I'm a heavy user.

What the fuck. The only recent TN panel is 540H and ultra pricey, and all IPS panel are worse than my old TN. I'm going insane.

>>105618105
The B650-E TUF board is slightly cheaper and seems to be a bit better
>2 x USB 10Gbps port(s) (1 x Type-A + 1 x USB Type-C®)
>Populating M.2_3 doesn't disable PCIEX16_2
These boards have the BIOS Flashback feature which allows you to update the board BIOS without a CPU or memory installed (update might be needed to install 9600X compatible BIOS).
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/bgcfcx

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-e-wifi/techspec/
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-plus-wifi/techspec/

>>105618148
stop wanting stupid things then

>>105617093
Just put the link in your firefox startup folder with your 30 sites that you open everyday you sit down at breakfast with your coffee

>>105618172
I want a good thing, but I'm not sure it exists. Everybody praises IPS and OLED over TN, yet it does not seem to match with my expectations of motion clarity.

It's not clear to me that anything beats TN's reliability and motion clarity at the same time, 10 years later. Am I missing something?

Either I'm mistaking, or if I'm not, it means I should look for a TN upgrade, that is some kind of 27" 240Hz VRR monitor that's not too expensive. But on RTINGS the table tool only goes back to 2019.

>>105618148
>I want better motion than my TN panel
Get a IPS panel with 0.5ms MPRT (not the GTG junk) and run it in MPRT mode.

>>105618199
That's about the long and short of it. Nobody wants TN except extreme esportsfags and they're willing to pay big bucks for 500Hz etc. Or, well, maybe they're not but those are the only type of "good" TN panels still being made.

>>105617407
Still rocking my gtx960 and it hasn't let me down yet. Might get another 2 or 3 years out of it.

>>105618199
If the very best CS2 pros in the world have to perform with IPS monitors in major tournaments due to sponsorships, you can live just fine casually gaming on an IPS monitor.

If my motherboard is dead and i buy the exact same model and replace it. Would that boot normally into windows?

>>105618294
I don't think you need to buy the exact motherboard to boot to Windows, you'll have to uninstall all the drivers associated with your old board though.

>>105618280
You're half right and half really retarded, but I get what you mean. Now I'm interested knowing what monitors they're using and at what events.

>>105618294
It will boot but windows will prompt you for a valid license since it's linked to motherboard hwid

>>105618319
https://prosettings.net/lists/cs2/

>>105618319
Keep flipping burgers until the ROG PG27AQNR with GSync Pulsar is out by the end of this month or so (late Q2 expected launch).
https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/nvidia-and-rog-pave-the-way-for-next-gen-gaming-monitors-with-g-sync-pulsar-tech/
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hUBYnOtSeak

This monitor will probably cost at least $700~800 because of that new Mediatek/NVIDIA GSync SoC.

>>105618354
buying high end IPS that cost a lot is retarded when oleds exist

>>105618361
Not for literal pay-to-win monitors (if you're genuinely good enough to take advantage of the hardware).

>>105618354
>Pulsar
is it because the monitor rapidly pulses and flickers, giving you eye cancer

>>105618341
Cheers. I wish they had those Zowies in 1440p. I would have been set I think.

>>105618354
Another named feature requiring a Nvidia GPU. It never stops. The missing piece to my puzzle has been found. Everything is fucked so the strategy is to buy a budget-mid range OLED and throw it in the trash when it's burned. I'm still stuck in the past in terms of reliability. Toyota mind.

>>105618501
>Another named feature requiring a Nvidia GPU. It never stops.
If you were a sweaty competitive FPS gamer, you'd already be owning a GeForce card for Reflex.
Practically none of the FPS pros own a Radeon card for this reason.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/reflex/supported-products/
https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/adrenalin/radeon-software-anti-lag.html

>>105618601
I'm only a veteran top 4%. I never went above as I wanted to enjoy more of the digital spectrum.

Also had a hard life that led me to buy a 9070, getting me good karma for trying to steer the gaming balance in a more sustainable direction. The market is beyond sanity.

>>105618694
There’s nothing wrong with NVIDIA or other GPU designers offering exclusive performance enhancements for their products, that’s just part of competition.

If you make these features vendor agnostic, you get weird shit like Radeon customers funding the development of FSR that benefited a larger number of Nintendo Switch gamers (Zelda runs with FSR1 enabled, on a custom NVIDIA Tegra SoC).

>>105617694
Anon... I've told you at least twice now. There will be no high end GPU from AMD this year.
1. They said that themselves.
2. They released pro version GPU that coincidentally has same stats as your imaginary 9080 xt.
I'm sorry

>>105618750
I'm not blaming performance enhancements, I'm blaming bloated feature sets. Even consoles are not a haven of simplicity nowadays, as their options are being expended.

As for PC, the number of proprietary features is too much for an average user. It either mean the user won't have time to understand what he has under his hands, which is its problem, but you can't deny even more enthusiast level users are getting overwhelmed by the amount of features.
Just take anti-alisasing, have you seen the number of different combinations? Pair that with all of the upscaling features where each brand has different versions.

It's a general philosophical state. Everything is getting bloated, and minimalism is not getting cheaper.

>>105618790
Reflex and GSync are not bloated features.
Reflex improves gaming performance by reducing system latency, and GSync reduces screen tearing (Ultimate & Pulsar improves motion clarity).

>>105618839
nta but he kinda has a point of it being bloat in the sense that it bloats the settings menu for everybody despite only working on one vendor's gpus

>>105618867
Pretty sure the option to enable Reflex only appears on systems with a GeForce card, you want to enable this in all supported games (as long as implementation isn’t buggy).
GSync option appears on the NVIDIA driver or the App so that’s a non issue.

Can someone red pill me on nvidia reflex? I used it and it feels like dark magic, latency just goes down.

>>105618839
Bloat is not about a specific feature as you mention. It's about a cumulation of specific features.

DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling)
RTX Ray Tracing
Reflex Low Latency
G-Sync
NVENC (NVIDIA Encoder)
CUDA (Compute Unified Device Architecture)
RTX Video Super Resolution
RTX IO
DLAA (Deep Learning Anti-Aliasing)
RTX Remix
Omniverse
ShadowPlay
Ansel
GameWorks
RTX Direct Illumination (RTXDI)
DLSS Frame Generation (DLSS 3, 3.5)
RTX Path Tracing
RTX Broadcast (with AI-powered features like virtual background, noise removal)
NVIDIA Studio Drivers
RTX Voice

AMD is the same.

>>105618982
yes. its an intentionally created feature moat to drown out the competition in cases where they overtake the company in raw performance, efficiency and cost
if they really had the best intentions for their customers, they'd be working with microsoft/unreal engine and whoever else to make industry standards that works seamlessly like standard VRR is

>>105618982
Now list the ones that you need to turn on when you’re maximizing a competitive shooter’s gaming performance.
If your monitor has backlight strobing, Reflex is the only relevant setting.

The NViDIA App can automatically enable optimized game settings for people like you who just want to play the game.
Giving more options to people to fine tune their gaming experience is not a negative.

>>105619037
>NViDIA App
you mean the same app that has been causing black screens when using it to install drivers?

>>105619007
That’s for suckers, look what happened to RX 7000 series card owners.
The only stand out feature for them is AFMF.
Everyone else can use FSR3 and these cards don’t have the hardware to fully support FSR4.

>>105619045
Old news.

My PC will ship today. I can feel it.

>>105619037
First of all you don't understand what I am and what I seek.

Secondly, of course giving options to people is a good thing. The problem is that you make the access of optimized quality tied to the bloat.

You think the Nvidia optimizer is sufficient, which is not. It is only if you accept that it will lower the standards, as any competent person don't rely on it. Veteran gamers or technical persons will for example make Youtube videos of settings or share them on forums.

To maximize a competitive shooter, you need more than Reflex into account. DLSS for example is a detriment as it will blur contours, so you need to understand how it works.
ShadowPlay impacts performances, and can cause stutter if the replay feature is ON.

And of course let me indicate that you're moving the goal post. We were speaking about bloating as a generalized aspect, but you're trying to paint the picture of a fictional gamer that only optimize his game relying on proprietary Nvidia features.

>>105619093
I wouldn't bet on that

>>105618978
Without Reflex, the CPU sends the latest frame data to the GPU as fast as the CPU can.
If the GPU is fully occupied with rendering earlier frame data, the latest frame data sent by the CPU is stuck in the render queue and you get higher system latency.

Reflex instructs the CPU to pace its frame data delivery rate so it doesn’t overwhelm the GPU.
The GPU is able to render the latest frame data with less delays in this scenario.
This is why you see GPU utilization below 99% with Reflex on, it’s deliberately keeping the render queue unoccupied.

>>105619197
Is this hard to implement or something? Why we only now have this.

>>105619095
I am bringing up the shooter scenario because this discussion was borne out of a GSync Pulsar display.
Don’t act like this shit is rocket science if you’re a competent gamer.
Literally 0 competitive games enable DLSS by default.
You have to opt-in to enabling Instant Replay on the NVIDIA App.
You only need to turn on Reflex.
Now shut the fuck up with your inane bitching.

Imagine crying about having the choice to enable DLSS/DLAA/DLDSR or frame gen.
Each of these either increases FPS that allows you to enjoy RT (if you’re into that) or improve the image quality by reducing aliasing.

>>105619233
enkidu, that you?

I have a 5600x and 6700xt

what should I do? Upgrade to AM5 or get a new GPU? I want to play games at 1440p, and I worry my rig isn't going to be powerful enough for EU5 and in the future for the MH wilds DLC when i start playing that game properly

>>105619151
Fuck you Garfield. It WILL happen

>>105619220
You need game developer’s support because Reflex requires changes to the renderer.
Reflex is supported by all of the popular shooters.

>>105619233
I think you have a bias toward Nvidia and you'll never have a useful gain with any conversation until you accept it. Most of your exchanges will only be a mere attempt to defend yourself against what already happened, signaling that you're inadequate.

There's no shame in liking Nvidia bro. But there is in trying to shape the truth to only meet your fearful needs.

>>105619241
Forget about wilds till they either optimize it or a new gen of hardware releases. The game is bad anyway

>>105619237
Just correcting a fucking retard regarding bloat when most of the said bloat is disabled by default, especially in competitive shooters.

>>105619269
I’m not the idiot that’s whining about “bloat” that is disabled by default in competitive shooters.

>>105618982
Half of those things aren't relevant for gaming honestly and a matter of a few clicks to enable/disable even without the nvidia app. If this is too much for anyone they should stick to consoles.

Buy 9070xt for $850 now or wait for 9080xt?

>>105619433
$850 is too much, how good is the 9080XT expected to be?

>>105619433
9080 XT will never exist and $850 is a horrible price, never spend more than $700 on a 9070 XT

>>105619433
if you're thinking of spending That much money on a gpu why not buy nvidia and get nvidia features?
Wtf.
9070xt is a good deal at msrp, not 850

>>105619433
The 9080xt isn't going to happen. Wait for the 5080 Super.

Any good suggestions for 140mm fans intended to be bolted to a 38mm radiator? Daisy chain would be a nice feature but is not a hard requirement.

>>105619512
phanteks t30 140mm next month, though still wait for the reviews

>Search for 9080XT rumors, source is MLID
This is the guy who claimed RX 7000 cards will be more power efficient than RTX 40 series.
He also said the RX 7600 could be as good as the 6900.

What is the cooling solution for a 4nm GPU that is rumored to boost between 3.7~4GHz?
That’s going to generate a lot of heat.

>have a yt channel making rumors
>make several educated guesses and post them as leaks/rumors
>when you run out of ideas make shit up to keep the views
>get right 20% of a time
>everyone think you're reliable

>>105619541
>He also said the RX 7600 could be as good as the 6900.
I presume their naming scheme by this point is roughly congruent with Nvidia, RX x600 == RTX xx60 and x900 == xx90?

>>105619512
is that a modded NFS high stakes? i dont remember it looking this good

>>105619788
No - it is the pc version of hot pursuit 2.

I think I'm just done with TVs as displays. I don't have any problems with the tech but jesus fuck they're so non-durable I'd rather pay 300 a year for a monitor than 700 a year for a TV and have basically the same experience. Not to mention that the TV is a problem with size. I can't deal dumping a 50+ inch monstrosity every year especially since I have nothing that big to get it in so I can't even pick one up in a store but have to get one with delivery which makes return/replacement a massive pain in the ass.

>>105619918
How to you manage to kill one TV a year?

>>105619946
I don't but I've noticed a distinct trend over the past 25 years of lifespan of displays going down significantly with each iteration. With the latest one lasting only a year (exactly, bought it June 8th last year) before the coating on the backlight went off and it started developing the blue aids.

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

Why is Unreal Engine so bad? Silent Hill 2 at 1080p is slower than Resident Evil 4 Remake at 4k. How is this even possible? That's 4 TIMES LESS quality and Silent Hill is still performing and looking worse? This is after patches too.

>>105620095
RE4R (Monster Hunter engine) for comparison

Are the RE remakes good?

>>105620107
All of them are great except 3

is it stupid to buy DD4 ram to save budget (and buy other components for it accordingly)? I am building from 0

>>105620185
depends on your budget and how much your saving

oof that is pretty bad - especially for users looking to bolt the card into older platforms.

>>105620185
my budget is at most 1000$~ for comparison. Want to squieeze out every inch of performance (buying second hand components)

>>105620095
>140fps at 1080p with a 5090
grim

>>105620099
5080 makes me sad

>>105620185
Unless you are turbo budget maxing with low end parts then not really.

>>105620095
Remember there is nothing wrong with the engine or devs - pc gamers are just entitled.

>>105620185
Depends on your philosophy and price, you can't really upgrade it any further down the line except the gpu. This can be an ok move if you can get it really cheap and then buy everything new except gpu during the AM6 era.

If you go for AM5 you can try to buy a lower end/used cpu that cover your needs right now and then go for the end of life maximum power nuclear level x3d-cpu in a couple of years.

I would go for AM5, but I'm really smart, I talked to squirrel just last thursday when I was out and about and he told me I have at least 500 IQ points.

>>105620238
That is nuts man.

>>105620107
2 is great

i have used all 3 brands in over 5000+ hours of ffxiv.
my experience:
>intel: screeching sound freezes
>nvidia: black screen of death
>amd: whea 18 error nonstop

>>105620415
Did they ever add more variety to character creation or is it the same four faces for every race?

>>105620415
>culprit: unstable ram overclock

>>105620415
>anon thinks is RAM OC donut steal is stable
>wonders why every gpu he uses is pulled down by the game

>have old reliable keyboard
>only its very rarely not reliable on a few of the keys that shouldn't be worn like the period
To buy a new keyboard, possibly with newer and better mechanical switches (I do prioritize typing over HE features), or make use of old reliable till it finally croaks in another decade. Decisions decisions

>>105620448
what, you mean the network driver isn't supposed to disconnect once every 2 hours and pulling out the ethernet cable isn't supposed to bsod my pc??

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-nova-lake-s-platform-has-enough-pcie-5-0-lanes-to-support-one-gen5x16-gpu-and-four-gen5x4-ssds

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

FOWARD THINKING, INNOVATION, VISIONARY

INFERIOR COMPETITOR STUCK IN CORE COUNTS AND PCIe LANES, UNABLE TO COMPETE

>>105620433
yes

>>105620444
my ram is stable

>>105620448
all their cpus and gpus have issues but differently

>>105620487
kek

>>105620496
>yes
I don't believe you.

Truth Nuke: at 1080p and 60fps there’s almost no difference between a 3060 and a 5090.

>>105620513

>>105620513
Thanks for the useful knowledge fubuki

>>105620496
Where's their brother Raping Merchant?

>>105620513
I mean yeah, if you have a game where you reach the same outcome it doesn't matter which card you use. Obviously.

>>105618485
Yes thats why esports fags need to retire in their 30s with the little vision they have left

>>105620507
there's a huge modding scene for the game and no anti cheat because square enix doesn't care so feel free to use your optiscaler or dxvk or whatever.

>>105620543
raping_merchant.webm

does the kind of CPU I buy depend on my GPU choice? darn this building process is so tedious

>>105616981 (OP)
also are the OP's recommendations some kind of schizo mumbling or they actually are good choices? I don't see any Intel cpus for example
0 knowledge, sorry!

>>105620581
Basically, if you choose 5060ti/9060xt 16gb models pair with 9600x if only for gaming. 5070/9070 and up you can go for the x3d cpus.

>>105620581
generally yes, you don't want to be wasting your budget on an expensive cpu if you have a rtx5070, rx9070 or slower gpu.
but if you play cpu heavy games like MMOs you can prioritize cpu performance and get a 9800x3d

>>105620592
its a schizo OP like you suspected. intel cpus aren't the fastest for gaming but they do make good value cpus like the core u7 265k that's going for only $260 today

>>105620592
Mostly good as long as you know about the schizos and their amd/nvidia/intel/samsung/wd wanking/hate.

For this particular OP you can see the SSD and GPU wanking. The next one will probably be other way around.

For SSD:s Samsungs stuff is a little better then WD. 990 Pro > SN850X and 990 Evo Plus > SN7100. But they're really close to each other so just buy the ones that's cheaper. Most don't even need a drive with dram so they can skip 990pro/SN850X, it was more of a thing with the non 2.5 inch ssds.

For GPUs: If only gaming, AMD is usually better price for performance if you can buy stuff for MSRP. If the equivalent cards are close in price, go for Nvidia.

If you do other stuff besides gaming, choose Nvidia.

Some things could be added as well. For example for CPU-coolers the Id-Cooling Frozn A620 Pro SE is similar performance to the Phantom Spirit and even cheaper.

>>105620706
To get a proper nvme get a micron pro or a micron max. Other ssds can have significantly worse worst case latencies and also have way worse durability.

If I'm not constantly working under heavy load can I skip buying a heatsinker?

Stellar Blade Status?

>>105620706
this is so confusing, can you check my parts if I am doing something retarded?
Budget: about 1000$ (would LOVE to save as much as possible), third worlder, want to buy everything second-hand from ebay.
Goal: General purpose, I'll do math\physics simulations, big compiling stuff and vidyo gaming

CPU: 7500F USED
GPU: rtx3060 8gb USED
RAM: 2x16 DDR5 USED
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B650M gaming PLUS WIFI NEW
PSU: Cheapest but NEW
Case: Cheapest I can find
fans and coolers and shit: Cheapest I can find
Nvme: 500gb cheapest
HDDs: Cheapest I can find
how is it?

>>105620871
Refunded

>AMD unboxed gets the amount of VRAM for a 5070 wrong
why do people take this shoe-stringed channel seriously again?

>>105620882
If you ever plan on switching to linux Id buy and amd gpu. Otherwise its pretty solid. If you buy a used nvme get a micron server one. They are very durable so used is not a problem with them. If you can get a 12gb vram GPU that would be a big plus. 8gb can stutter in recent games or force you to turn down textures to lowest.

>>105620983
I am planning to use arch linux anyways, is 3060 support really that bad? Redditors say Cuda and other shit works effortlessly,

>>105620882
>CPU: 7500F USED
fine
>GPU: rtx3060 8gb USED
get a 12gb model if you can find it cheap enough
>RAM: 2x16 DDR5 USED
fine
>Motherboard: GIGABYTE B650M gaming PLUS WIFI NEW
>probably fine, go with something used if you're as big of a cheapskate as you make yourself out to be though
>PSU: Cheapest but NEW
those are mostly junk, get something used and higher end instead
>Nvme: 500gb cheapest
likely to be trash
>HDDs: Cheapest I can find
more of the same

>>105620882
Also nvme vs sata is almost no difference for any practical use case.

>>105621005
NVIDIA works fine on linux now. they're big in servers which are 95% linux-based so CUDA and everything will work. Drivers should too.

Sold my 5090 for $1700 cash+4090 TUF, and now all my games launch. I can't believe I got bailed out of my poor decision to sell my 4090 ($2500) and purchase an overpriced 5090 ($3600). At first, I could get over the shame of overpaying with the first month or two of enjoyment+tariff concerns keeping prices high, but now 4 semi-recent games I wanna play just wouldn't launch on it, and its value was dropping precipitously. I thank that guy immensely. He will use the 5090 for modded COD. I feel bad sending a chip of that class to an early retirement with fucking modded cod but fuck those drivers man. Never above MSRP again for me, either, that's for goddamn sure.

>>105620549
You can play every single game currently with a 3060 at 1080p 60fps.

>>105621013
Not for gaming. For AI its better than AMD on linux

>>105621005
Nvidia works better on Linux than it does on Windows.

>>105621015
Lesson learned. Wait for MSRP models and never overpay especially if you have a capable card already like a 4090. I made the same mistake overpaying for a 3080ti.

>>105620882
If you want to save more money you could go with AM4 and a used cpu. DDR4 RAM is also cheaper. And then spend the extra money on a 3060 12gb or a 6700xt 12gb.

>>105620775
Not on modern chips no.

>>105621005
>>105621013
>>105621023
If you’re using Linux then that means you support FOSS philosophy, and if that’s the case then why the fuck would you buy an Nvidia card that has proprietary drivers

>>105621044
CUDA and NVENC :\ until AMD catches up with ROCm people will continue to buy NVIDIA for these reasons.

I used the 3080ti for a day coming from a 6800 and thought it was quite shit for $1200 and jumped right to a 3090ti like a retard. My first big mistake, however, I'm rather sure it guaranteed me a day one invite to buy 4090 FE 6 months down the line, so that overpriced mistake did at least net me my favorite card ever that also turned a massive profit. I will wait for the 5090 FE invite, or maybe even happily forgo it, considering its many issues.

>>105621061
wtf are cuda and nvenc?

>>105621063
Wait for 6090 at this point, better performance leap with the node jump and you'll be paying 3k for a 5090 nowadays anyway. might as well hope to get lucky with a msrp 6090 if you're in priorirty que. good luck!

>>105621072
NVENC is the video encoder, CUDA is the parallel computing language of the GPU that allows developers to do shit with AI and other applications that require parallel compute such as 3d design (cad), 3d modeling (blender), automotive, a bunch of shit uses CUDA that simply won't run as well on AMD gpus or the ROCm equivalent. It's why NVIDIA dominates the productivity space and why every single streamer uses an NVIDIA gpu. Anybody making money with their PC is inclined to buy NVIDIA. AMD has always been the value "gaming" option since that's mainly what their cards are good at doing (using more power than NVIDIA for the same FPS) but that's it.

>>105621012
isnt nvme 20x times faster or something like that vs sata? Thats is the whole reason I want to buy it as a main drive. Other HDDs will be like my projects data junk
>>105621013
cool, Ill stick with cuda gpus then
>>105621038
as I am aware, if I want to update to AM5 3-4 years later, Ill have to buy new rams and new motherboard and new PSu and shit, honestly do not care if I am paying 80$~ extra for all this, its ok
>>105621044
I care about the development environment. Also windows sucks

So, I just replace gpu for more vram and everything is OK? is 7500f powerful enough for my use cases?

>>105621098
when will we get amd/intel emulation layer for cuda

>>105621010
also, is it really OK to buy used motherboards and PSUs? how risky is it? some anons told me my pc could explode and shit

>>105621122
not that anon but NVME is faster only when switching between 2 NVME drives. They both have to have fast write/reads or else you'll transfer as fast as your weakest link. For example: If you have a drive that can write 4000mb/s, and you try to transfer to a SATA HDD or SSD with 400mb of read, you will only get 1/10th of your speed because the weakest link is your SATA connection.

>>105621141
nvmes are lightning fast if they are swapping between each other. took me like 15 minutes to transfer a 150gb game between drives once.

>>105621122
Nvme is faster than sata ssd but windows overhead and program overhead are bottlnecking that so its almost irrelevant. SSD sata vs nvme is practically the same for user experience

>>105621044
>If you’re using Linux then that means you support FOSS philosophy

>>105621122
For dev the CPU is perfectly fine. Dev stuff either compiles instantly or takes forever even on 16 cores or more. 7500f is also good for gaming easily

>>105621136
yeah, bought both of mine used and they're fine, PSUs don't come with 10~12 year warranties for no reason and I don't see how buying a mobo used would be problematic unless the seller is going out of their way to hide problems with it

>>105621131
https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA

>>105621184
A brand-new thermaltake gf3 fried my motherboard so fuck your image Anon. Fuck that brand with a soldering iron up the urethra.

I'm thinking of getting the 5700x3d on recommendation of an anon here. I have the 9060 xt and the performance really isn't what I thought it would be. I'm getting dips to 40fps at 1440p in Elden Ring Nightreign at medium settings. I have the 16gb card paired with a r5 5600g. I came from a 2060 super and I feel like that almost performed similarly to this card at the same res. Dropping the settings or resolution still results in almost the same FPS with the same drops.

>>105621204
lmao are you running stuff on your iGPU?

Never built a PC before, have just been running GeForce Now on shit laptops, should I chuck this together? I can get the parts for about $1250AUD (815USD) through various sales/cashback offers:

CPU: Ryzen 5 7500F
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M WIFI
GPU: Sapphire Pulse 9060 XT 16GB
RAM: KLEVV FIT V 32GB KIT (2*16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 BLACK
SSD: Western Digital Green 1TB SN3000 PCIe Gen4 5,000/4,200MB/S
PSU: Gigabyte GP-P750BS 750W 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
Case: Okinos Cypress 3 ARGB Mid Tower Micro ATX Case

>>105621229
>GeForce Now
grim

>>105621187
nvidia/amd legal departments dont allow it to be truly functional

>>105621204
For Elden Ring you need to disable SMT in BIOS. Windows fucks up thread scheduling in elden ring

>>105621268
Why would you disable in bios when you can just use task manager or process lasso to lock the game to the physical cores?

I run Unreal Engine, Rider and at least two browsers simultaneously on my workstation, and I'm starting to find it's using 90% of my available 32GB ram. I want to add Houdini to my pipeline too so I'm thinking its time to upgrade.

My question is: for a production workload, would I be better off running 4x32GB sticks (128GB ram)? Or 2x32GB for optimal dual-channel performance (64GB ram)?

Specs:
Asrock B650E PG Riptide
Ryzen 7950x
Rtx 5070Ti

ChatGPT says higher capacity is much better for my use case. Gemini says always prefer dual channel and ram performance beats raw capacity.

>>105621274
Because if you disable in BIOS you free up actual processor internal resources that are statically allocated while smt is on. Like TLB entries etc.

Also if windows assaults your sibling threads randomly then process lasso doesnt help enough. Try it for yourself if you dont believe me

>>105621213
I have my second montior running off of my iGPU now, but the performance was the same before that. I had the iGPU setting on, but I plugged both video cables into my 9060. Now I decided to run my secondary monitor off of the iGPU and keep the main on the 9060 XT to see if that would help it perform better and it did not sadly. Still the same issues as before. Should I just turn off the iGPU all together?

>>105621268
I'll give that a shot. Will it improve my performance in other games too? In BF 2042 I get hard freezes now that I didn't get on my old gpu. Recording is also not doable on my GPU. I lose like 50fps when I do it.

>>105621297
If you need (for example) 80gb of ram to keep everything resident it doesn't matter how fast your 64gb kit is as you'll be murdered by latency as you hit the page file.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/fbc-firebreak-doom-the-dark-ages-geforce-game-ready-driver/

UPDATE NOW

>>105621347
>DLSS ray reconstruction and pathtracing
>driver fixes for crashing
ACKMD faggot is about to rope himself hearing this now that his shill webm is useless

>>105621326
>Will it improve my performance in other games too?
Depends on the game. I prefer having it disabled on my 8core cpu.

The June NVIDIA Studio Driver provides optimal support for the latest new creative applications and updates including the arrival of the Stable Diffusion 3.5 update which adds TensorRT and FP8 support, improving performance by 70% and reducing VRAM consumption by 40%.

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

thinking of retiring my 3080 10G for a 5080
which aftermarket model is the best in terms of power efficiency and cooling?
also eyeing to go from a corsair rm850x to one of the newer corsair 1000x? 3.1
thoughts?

>>105621204
>I'm getting dips to 40fps at 1440p in Elden Ring Nightreign at medium settings
>Dropping the settings or resolution still results in almost the same FPS with the same drops.
Probably because the game's compiling shaders in real time just like the original Elden Ring.
Performance should improve over time.

The cores in the 5600G run more like a 3600X, but it's still good enough to work on that config.

>>105621461
How many hours of playtime does it take before it's all fully cached? I have about 3-4 hours on this rig.

>>105619093
Status update: it did not ship.

>>105621483
After you've seen all the possible environment seeds.
The game engine is quite CPU-demanding probably because it's got some leftover PS3 (Cell) code from the original Demon's Souls.
Environments with heavy particle effects like waterfalls are going to tank FPS because a single CPU thread is calculating the physics for it.

>>105621483
You should also check whether Smart Access Memory/Resizable BAR is enabled in the BIOS, I don't think this will have a major impact on Elden Ring but it's worth a shot.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/394980/how-to-turn-on-amds-smart-access-memory-for-faster-gaming-performance.html

>>105616981 (OP)
>AVOID Shittel
why? for programming/compiling and light gaming, are they fine or actually bad quality parts? about to build an upgrade from 7700k/3060ti and getting back up to date with what's available

I have a 5600x and a 6600
Should i get a new GPU(9070) or move to AM5 and get a new ram, motherboard ram and 7600x

>>105621603
>gaming
3D cache makes such a large difference on both the minimum and maximum framerate that everything Intel has is effectively a generation behind.

>productivity, benchmark score whoring
Intel does better here.

>>105621603
It's fine to go Intel if you're getting a great deal out of the CPU & motherboard bundles (sometimes including memory kit and/or SSD).
If the building cost is similar to a Ryzen equivalent, there's less justification for gaming.
LGA1851 is only getting Arrow Lake Refresh as its final set of supported CPUs, the refresh CPUs are more likely to just factory OC the CPU core/ring/memory controller.

>>105621435
Go for a 5070ti, same die size and vram, 10% less performance but less overpriced usually. get a rmx1000

about to install windows 11 IoT LTSC. Anything I should know? What are all the settings and stuff I should disable?

>>105621660
Don't do this, 5080 has 30% more performance and runs cooler

>>105621620
Video card upgrade is far more impactful for gaming, especially @ 1440p.
I'd also check if you have at least a 3200MT/s CL16 memory kit.

Memory chip manufacturers are winding down DDR4 memory production, so it's not a bad idea to get a 3200/3600MT/s kit if you don't have one.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FKKKHx/klevv-bolt-x-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-kd4agu880-36a180u
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ddr4/the-end-of-an-era-ddr4-production-to-essentially-end-this-year-micron-the-final-domino-to-fall

>>105621435
heed this anon's warnings >>105621015 and skip rtx5000 series altogether. rtx4080 doesnt have multi frame gen 3-4x but has stabler drivers and is nearly as fast as the 5080 so get a used 4080/S instead

>>105621699
nahh i alway skip a generation
>>105621660
i got a 4k monitor though

>>105621699
>rtx4080 doesnt have multi frame gen
Lossless scaling saves the day.

>>105621660
>5070ti

>>105621435
>which aftermarket model is the best in terms of power efficiency and cooling?
A 5080 with the largest heatsink and fans, but they're all overpriced.

>studio driver
>game ready driver
what is the actual difference?

>>105621711
>Lossless scaling
This program is either ass or I'm not configuring it right. Everytime I use it, I never notice any improvement in my framerate. The upscaling is trash too.

>>105621660
>rmx1000
PSA The old version is NOT 3.1

>>105621297
Anyone?

if my psu isn't 3.0, will it fry my 5080? I got this psu years ago when the 3080 was out, so I couldn't have foreseen this.

>>105616981 (OP)
Was buying a 5070 ti with a 9800x3D a good choice? Is there really gonna be a 5070 super? My games run perfect for 1440p but should I still upgrade? I have an addiction of upgrading my pc to not make it complete shit.

>>105621773
You really should go for a 3.1 12vx6 the newest shit

>>105620095
>Silent Hill 2
The devs of that game (Bloober Team) were never known for shipping performant titles, PEBKAC.

>>105621390
Does it mean I have to install studio drivers to use 5090 for AI?

>>105621297
>>105621767
4 sticks of ddr5 ram is a bad idea because of stability problems running higher than ~4800mt/s. Get a two stick kit and stick with that. Other than 2x32gb, ddr5 is also available in 2x48gb and 2x64gb capacities.

>>105621635
>>105621651
thanks, interesting points

>>105620196
It's most likely CPU bottleneck

>>105621720
15% isn't a giant difference though especially if the 5080 costs twice the price of a 5070ti in the current market. Current 5080 buyers are getting scammed by overpaying for a 5080 over MSRP when the 5080 super is coming out. 5070ti is still the better card, same bit bus and vram as the 5080.

>>105621808
Memory bandwith alone is worth it for 4k

>>105621775
>>105621773
>>105621720
Nvidia has nonstop driver issues on Windows and Linux with no resolution so dont buy

>>105621675
If you pick English (world) instead of English (america) during setup you get no bloatware. Disable Virtualization.

>>105621824
>Nvidia has nonstop driver issues on Windows and Linux with no resolution so dont buy
Come on anon don't be this disingenious

>>105621797
No, the Game Ready driver is the same 576.80 version and has all the same optimizations

>>105621773
Your PSU is fine as long as the power cable is correctly inserted and given enough clearance before you bend either side.
https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/72-psu-recommendations-for-nvidia-rtx-4000-cards
https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/79-comparison-atx-3-0-vs-atx-3-1-standards

You can also buy a reliable 90° cable that is confirmed to work safely with your PSU.

>>105621833
Then what's the point of studio drivers?

>>105621620
9070 without a second thought. That's like a threefold jump in performance. 6600 is a bottleneck even at 1080p, CPU upgrade won't change that.
If you want a better CPU to go with it I'd look at the 5700X3D, but that's if you already have 3200/3600MHz RAM and your games installed on an NVMe SSD.

>>105621816
1tb/s memory bandwidth is plenty for 4k dawg

>>105621692
Thanks man.
So just get the rx 9070?

>>105621843
Thank you I'll pull the trigger

>>105621816
All gddr7 can overclock to 32gbps and 99% can run 34gbps

>>105621862
Yes, the 5600X shouldn't be bottlenecking a 9070 @ 1440p in most games.

you can bend wires in a 360 degrees for all they care, the radius just has to be ~10x larger than the cross section of the wire. So, about 3/8" radius for 16 gauge wire, which is like wrapping it around your pinky.

>>105621884
It depends on the 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 cable.
https://youtu.be/P-7LZvVSL5U?t=11

>new nvidia pilots
did they fix their shit?

>>105621725
srs bsns
MLG 360 noscope

>>105622003
their drivers are unfixable at this stage. literally ruined by LLM code

>>105622043
>ruined by LLM code
Kind of funny for one of the most valuable company to fall so bad into the competency crisis. What are the last good ones for a 4090?

>>105622086
566.36 is the last good one but there are specific FG issues with it that 561.09 doesn't
if you don't use FG, 566.36 works like a charm

>want to upgrade 5800x3d system to 64gb ram
>have to replace existing ram because all slots are in use
>"should be relatively cheap buying used ram, ddr4 is cheap!"
>every fucker is selling shit like 4x16 2666 barely below what you can get 2x32 3200 brand new
motherfuckers I just want some cheap ram for fun

>>105622156
The majority of sellers are retards. Earlier this year I looked at 12gb 3060s. Thought I could buy one on the cheap for like 100-150 or something but the tards wanted more than it costs to buy new a new one. I don't understand how they managed to survive past 15.

>>105622156
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YV9VYYY/
Can't you just get a fresh set of 2x32gb 3600s from amazon?

>>105622208
I want cheap as I don't need 64gb and just want it for fun. I mean ddr4 has been in production for a decade so I (seemingly foolishly) was anticipating even something like 4x16 3000 would be cheap.

>Every time I think I found a decent monitor
>Check rtings site in the OP
>There's a massive flaw in it
I just... I've been at this for two days now, I don't know how much more of this shit I can take.

>>105622253
Rtings is ass unironically

>>105622327
Why is it in the OP then?

>>105622354
>AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
Why is this in the OP? because its outdated

>>105622360
I don't know man. There's a difference between a site and a statement.

>>105621824
But I haven't had any driver issues at all and I just built this computer new, literally in the past I had so many AMD driver issues and black screens it was driving me nuts. Why is it normal to shill AMD on this thread now?

>>105622327
RTings is very useful as their testing is pretty comprehensive. RTings + TFTCentral cover a lot of ground for monitor reviews.

>>105622253
There is basically no perfect monitor for anyone, what you need to decide is which flaw will impact you the least.

>>105622231
Realistically what games will require you to have a 64 GB ram, not shitting anyone who gets it, but it's just funny getting it lol

>>105622456
Not him but I also just thought it would be extremely funny if I just buy 64 gigs. Don't know why but I chuckled and put it in the cart

>>105622456
The few I've heard about that can use up 32gb are star citizen, late game cities skyline and heavily modded Skyrim.

>>105622418
Me and 6 other customers in my shop just switched to AMD because Nvidia is unreliable for job production and gaming. There's no point in buying Nvidia if your render is going to blackscreen or your competitive game is ruined by a driver crash. People want something that's stable and Nvidia/Intel ain't it if they're crashing during Unreal shader compilation and blender work.

>>105622428
>There is basically no perfect monitor for anyone, what you need to decide is which flaw will impact you the least.
Any mini-LED monitors under a thousand bucks?
Honestly all I need in a monitor is to be durable. I'd love an OLED but I frequently have my PC in constant use for multiple days at a time I'm afraid it's gonna have game and youtube UIs burned in within months if not weeks.
I just wanna watch youtube videos and play at 60fps (Preferably 4k) I don't need sub-1ms response times and shit I've been gaming between 0.6 and 0.10 for so long I really don't care that much, I'm sure 0.3ms latency is amazing but I've never had it so I won't miss it. Not like I play competitively or PVP for that matter so it isn't that important. And no ghosting when mouse cursor goes over gray background would be great. Other than that I don't have preferences.
Bonus if Amazon has next day delivery on it so I don't have to wait much but really it's not that big of a deal.

>>105622558
Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32-inch 4K 240Hz appears to be at an all-time low ($700, sold & shipped by Amazon).
Some people complain about Samsung Electronics' QA, but this is probably the best miniLED you can get for the price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r4fnTW/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-320-3840-x-2160-240-hz-curved-monitor-ls32bg852nnxgo
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/mini-led

>>105622604
Oh shit, yeah it looks good on paper but I have horrible luck with QA results so I just know I'd have to RMA it multiple times.

>>105622456
Well nobody these days games without other software running but earlier today I ran out of memory while playing oblivion remastered and the game crashed. I happened to be monitoring my system because my gpu vram is getting toasty and my OSD setup includes system ram which hit 31.something and the game fucking died. I could get away with 48gb but that is only practical for ddr5.

>>105616981 (OP)
>no Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro on the list
why?

>>105622649
That's a 3-year-old monitor, the manufacturing quirks should've been ironed out by now.
I think it's worth testing the monitor with the latest firmware during Amazon's return period.

You could also wait for MSI's 27" 4K 160Hz miniLED monitor.
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-274URDFW-E16M

>>105617093
just bookmark it and check often

>>105622671
It could be Oblivion Remastered causing VRAM leaks, not the system memory.
They've yet to release a performance-focused patch.

>>105622713
Vram was reporting total usage of only 17gb which is well under the 24gb my gpu is equipped with.

>>105622707
That looks promising, when's it coming out?

>>105622671
God if i'm upgrading to 64 gb ram I hope it will be enough for a long time, I don't give a fuck i'm never upgrading to 128 gb, its fucking retarded

>>105622732
Supposedly next month with a $499 MSRP.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/msi-mpg-274urdfw-e16m-with-a-27-4k-160hz-fhd-320hz-dual-mode-ips-panel-and-mini-led-backlight

>>105622734
Well 64gb DDR5 is a lot less hassle than DDR4 as the modules are generally denser (16gb dimms are pretty common for DDR5) but yeah for just two chrome tabs and some video games 64gb is a fucking lot with very few benefitting from it now (MSFS being a prime example). I'm just a fan of loads of memory in general.

>>105622768
Oh that's a really good price. I'll hold off and wait for that one.
Damn, guess I gotta invest in a soundbar now since these fuckers are allergic to adding speakers to their monitors.

>>105622795
>soundbar

>>105622806
Whatever the fuck you call it. I've literally been using TVs as my monitor since they stopped making game texts readable on CRTs.
I gotta use a PC and a console so I need sound to come out somewhere, I'm not using a headset 24/7.

>>105622831
can't you just buy a pair of shitty edifier? they will mog even the best soundbar by a wide margin

The way it's meant to be played

>>105622881
Inferior to ruby on all fronts.

>>105622855
I don't wanna deal with cables.

>>105622900
fair enough, I hate them too but I just cope

>>105620882
is 650W PSU enough for this?

>>105622914
Just saying, if you're paying half a grand plus for a monitor, they should give you some fucking integrated audio drivers, even if they're the cheapo shit.

>>105622959
Most of the people who buy these higher-end monitors will complain about the audio quality and they'll want an integrated headphone amp, they can't win.

>>105622958
Yes, it's enough.

>>105622897
>doesn't like pixie cut
fag

>>105622958
should be

>>105622984
>Most of the people who buy these higher-end monitors will complain about the audio quality and they'll want an integrated headphone amp, they can't win.
Sure they can win. They can include some kind of speaker and audiophiles can bring their own gear.
It's not like the only options are best in class or nothing.

>>105622958
I guess, but you'll be at the limit and not have any upgrade headroom. The $55 more for an 850W might be worth considering. Should be good with 650W though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQCjetSrvf4

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>105623053
?

My case has three fans in the front, one in the back. It still has space for three at the top and one at the bottom. Should I get more? Maybe get three, then put two at the top and one in the bottom?

>>105623102
If the fans actually move air that is usually fine enough. Unless something is especially toasty that is a reasonable setup as-is.

>>105623090
Witness the confusion of the AMDrone as he sees his entire life's dedication and faith be left behind for another generation (or two) once again.

>>105623148
It's a tech demo, this isn't even close to the adoption rate of Turing's DLSS.
AMD's been researching this tech as well, this won't become mainstream until gaming console manufacturers are ready to implement it.

>>105623102
If your case has a decent airflow design, the first 2~3 case fans are the most impactful (front intake priority, 1 rear exhaust depending on the case).
I think an anon with a 4090 in an O11 case thought I was bullshitting.
He compared the GPU temperature difference with the bottom 3x120mm fans on or off under a Furmark load.
The temperature difference was around 2~3°C, it's not big enough to provide a noticeable performance improvement (+15MHz boost clock difference best case).

When I reinstall windows, is there a way to transfer over taskbar icons and desktop stuff to the fresh install?

>>105623122
>>105623248
Thanks after thinking some more about it, I think I'll just get more lmao

>>105623200
Both are researching it, one has the working tech demo that exists. Adoption rate is zero because it is new technology, but it is easily apparent that having 4x the effective VRAM by using the more modest approach (or any future compromise type) will provide great value to everyone. Just halving the VRAM usage would be enough to solve virtually all the bitching. Since Playstation uses AMD I doubt it will be a consideration on that console, they will just provide it with enough physical memory. So then the real make or break comes from whether it will be implemented on AMD's side on PC DIY; they have 8GB current generation cards right now, so if Nvidia can use their leverage to push for adoption of neural texture compression and the other side can't then that is going to be a marketing masterstroke.

I'm trying to find out my motherboard manufacturer so that I can attempt to upgrade the bios.
Problem is this was a pc specialist build so the mother board only appears as notebook manufacturer with the serial number. I had a look on the motherboard when I swapped ram and it's just the serial number as well by the looks of it.
Any ideas how I can find out who the manufacturer is so I can update the bios? Or is it impossible?

>>105623305
You’re missing the point that neural texture compression will be irrelevant for gamers for quite a while.
You’ll be lucky to see this tech featured in Witcher 4.

I'm looking to upgrade my ancient 1080p monitor but I won't (and probably never will) be willing to spend too much money on my PC as hobby, so no fancy GPU now or ever. Considering this, would it be a bad idea to skip 1440p entirely, get a 4K monitor for browsing and productivity, but gaming on it at 1080p only (since it scales nicely)? Picrel is what I'm looking to buy (there's probably marginally better alternatives but I need a small base footprint).
>inb4 gayscaling and fake frames (save your breath, shills)

>>105623352
I cant imagine 1080p looking good on a 4k monitor.

>>105623367
My current one is 1080p and also 27 inches so there shouldn't be a difference with integer scaling.

>buying a 4K monitor to play at 1080p native
lmao go ahead retard

The Youtubers haven't mentioned 50 series selling millions of units, AMD taking 92% of the GPU market and ZERO 9000 SERIES AMD CARDS APPEARING IN STEAM SURVEY

>>105623352
Buy a 4K monitor with 1080p dual mode feature included

>>105623339
That's a big claim, W4 is supposed to be only after 2026. We will see, especially since this is a non-gameplay related technology and is not integral to the end result visuals like raytracing is.

>>105623335
When you go off the beaten path and into laptop and other custom designs it is truly here be dragons territory. You could try running some system monitoring tools like cpu-z to see if that can pull the motherboard info.

>>105623414
The alternative is sticking with 1080p forever, I guess. I won't pay a fortune on a GPU to properly game at a higher res and I won't accept hallucinations or trading FPS for visual quality.
>retard
We're both posting on the retard daycare forum, mate.
>>105623455
I've seen a few of those (more expensive than what I'm aiming for though). What even is the difference? I thought it was just that those panels do higher refresh rates in 1080p mode.

>>105623443
The steam hardware survey is so accurate we sporadically see simplified chinese gain +3-% in a month which translates to tens of millions of new users.

That valve then corrects.

Never question the survey.

>>105623464
NVIDIA can't even release a publicly downloadable real-time demo of this tech.
By the time the neural texture compression feature is available in actual games, there's going to be RTX 60/70/80- generation cards that will run this feature at lower rendering latency.
This is worse than shilling RT when Turing cards just launched.

I just ordered MAG321UP
Do I need to get some speakers for it or not?
Amazon says it doesn't have built in speakers but google says it does, so which is it?

>>105623473
Thanks for the suggestion, I'm on Linux so I'll try CPU x.
Yeah I tried using the terminal, system I formation, the bios, it all just says notebook. The motherboard was printed by hannstar, the CPU holder is made by foxconn, who used to make motherboards but shit down some time ago. I would hope it was made by intel or Asus or a still functional company at least.
If CPU X doesn't work then guessing it's a lost cause

>>105623686
The official spec sheet says this monitor doesn't have speakers.
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-321UP-QD-OLED/Specification

>>105623708
Alright, guess I'm in the market for some speakers for fuck's sake. It's one step forward two steps back with tech.

>>105623686
Well fuck this order I guess.
I just checked my confirmation email and fuckers changed me to used, reduced my charge my $50, I'm not fucking buying a used OLED what the fuck is wrong with these people?
Thankfully I caught it in time to cancel it but this is some bullshit man. I still got charged for it, now I gotta wait for the chargeback before I can go and buy a different monitor. Fuck's sake. When it rains it pours.

is ux ultra thermal putty worth it?
how many grams do i need for 3090ti

>>105622086
>fall so bad
3.5t

>>105623352
Buy a 1440p monitor

>>105624520
>>105624520
>>105624520

>>105611706 (Me)
Me again, it arrived and I quickly unpacked it. Running it with HDR and Adaptive Sync turned on in Eco Mode, which was the default mode when I first turned it on. Took a while to adjust to 160hz.

GTA Online felt really smooth to look at with the high refresh rate and the 4k.

If that monitor is on discount below 400 Euros, it's a definitely good choice.

>>105621558
>>105621599
SMT sadly didn't do the trick. It made my performance worse in Elden Ring. But I managed to fix the Freezing problem that 2042 had. I had to enable ReBAR in the BIOS and that did it. Still, the average performance of some games is not optimal. Benchmarks online show much better performance so I guess I just need to upgrade my CPU then.

>>105617166
>I wanted to undervolt.
Start doing this

>>105624007
No, get a thermal grizzly kryosheet, less mess and works indefinitely without ever degrading