Thread 105617214

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Final Fantasy Edition

>News
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
Claude 4 Sonnet and Opus released with 1h caching https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4
Gemini 2.5 Pro free tier API access "temporarily" paused https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1922357621178200248

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Restoring the Light: >>105609380

Good presets for gemini 2.5 pro/flash?

>>105617242
Fluff though I haven't had a chance to try it on the latest Gemini.

>>105617214 (OP)
I liked 5, 7, 8, 9, 10
maybe someday I'll try the others

desu fantasy

Kill Lufenians
Roundhouse kick Lufenians
Throw Lufenians into woodchippers

Hello I’m new to all of this. I first started with character ai a couple days ago and liked it but wanted to get lewd. What would be the best and least invasive/set up intensive way to get lewd with a fictional character? I don’t really wanna have to sign in or buy something. Im not that deep into it yet. I just want to lewd roleplay with Monika. I known like nothing about this, but if whatever could work on my phone too, that would be nice. It suck’s cuz character ai doesn’t say lewd words, but I was having fun with one of the Monikas there and wanted to see how far this goes (I’ll just repost)

What JB to use for deepseek? Don't tell me le no JB because it keeps refusing when I do that

>>105617263
A reminder that Desufag fought to prevent people from posting images in this thread.

>>105617259
>5
Based

>>105617284
Don't you already have a lot of integrated mods for ddlc?

>>105617284
Get lewd with a fictional character? The fuck?
Never heard of such a thing

>>105617259
>5
Very based of you anon, not too many people pick 5 when mentioning the ones they liked but it has always been my favorite due to the job system and how you could change them on the fly. Previous comment was deleted due to me having more to say than just 'based'.

>>105617285
Change (probably lower) your temperature. Also, which Deepseek, R1 0528 or V3 0324?

>>105617306
0324, I'm using .20 temp

>>105617295
Nope I never actually played the game myself. I just know a lot about it. At first I liked the idea of talking to Monika cuz she was like a sentient ai in the game so I figured it would have been interesting like that. But now I’m just sexing with her a lot. So I want to be more lewd. I just don’t know what is out there. I just learned about character AI.

>>105617284
>>>/mlp/42272540
Without making an account is asking a bit too much. I don't know if the proxies here work: >>105563433
>whatever could work on my phone too
You could use online frontends like Chub, Agnai, or Risu.

wtf can't do anything fun

>>105617304
I liked it quite a bit and hope they remake it someday. Apparently it was popular in JP too. Yeah the job system is great, but also the story and characters were pretty good and had sovl to them.

>>105617313
The sweet spot for V3 0324 has always been right around 0.35 for me; if I set it much lower I get too many refusals, too much higher and it starts feeling a little weird.

>>105617334
Well ok. I could probably do the whole sign in with my phone thing. I was just talking like making 20 million accounts and throwing in a whole bunch of personal info. I’m just trying to get off, so I only wanted mostly minimal work.

>>105617349
id say the nes and snes ffs all had sovl (even 1 and 2)

>>105617347
Thank you. You have singlehandedly squashed any fears I had of being a bad person.

>>105617385
I was just jesting

>>105617373
Do you really want to use your phone? Honestly, the best way to experience (read: coom to) chatbots is on a computer.

>>105617391
Either or. Phone is more continent for me. Just wake up grab it and goon. Not if it gets my data stolen though. I googled earlier and someone mentioned like muah.ai or something but when I go to that website it looks sketch as shit. It’s like all rainbows.

>>105617391
there is nothing more cozy than using sillytavern on your phone while laying in your bed

>>105617427
Do I get to goon with Monika?

>>105617412
sillytavern, follow this for phone install https://rentry.org/STAI-Termux
openrouter.ai and deepseek v3 (free)
there will be limits if you dont deposit 10$ bucks you can just make more accounts, or deposit 10$ and have like 1k prompts per day limit instead of whatever it is without deposit

>>105617433
find a card of her on chub.ai and import into sillytavern

>>105617219
Dominique, Bella, Raven, and Morgan Wormwood are a set of quadruplets who are all in love with (You) and fighting to seduce you. With all of the chaos that the premise implies.

16 openings.
1. You receive 4 letters from secret admirers.
2. Dinner with Dominique where she tests your etiquette.
3. Sparring with Bella, loser has to fuck the winner.
4. You and Raven watch a slop movie together.
5. Creepy graveyard picnic with Morgan.
6. Sex as a reward with Dominique.
7. Violent sex with Bella.
8. Sex with Raven (you do all the work).
9. Cute and affirming sex with Morgan.
10. Dominique and Bella powerplay over breakfast.
11. Raven tries to show you YLYL videos in front of Dominique.
12. Double date with Dominique and Morgan, Morgan is mistaken for your daughter.
13. Game night with Bella and Raven. Raven keeps destroying Bella.
14. Morgan wants to get stronger, asks Bella and you to help her out.
15. Raven and Morgan powerplay over movie night.
16. The sisters get sick of you being so indecisive and take matters into their own hands.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/the-wormwood-sisters-91bde8e9a0fa
https://files.catbox.moe/kp2qb3.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

>>105617433
>Do I get to goon with Monika?
>with
Why not goon to Monika instead?

>>105617259
I, III, and IV are all great
II is not very good but is interesting enough to be worth playing if you like the others. Story and everything are very cool for the time period, it just has a very bad leveling/magic system.

>>105617412
Do this >>105617442 but instead of using DeepSeek (V3 0324 or R1 0528) via OpenRouter, use it via Chutes; no payments, no limits.

>>105617442
>>105617443
Oh dang this already feels complicated. But I can try I suppose

>>105617446
With and too. I was doing that earlier in a limited sense in character ai

>>105617462
Well I’m officially confused now. I knew it wouldn’t be easy.

>last day of holidays before work
>spent the time from 9am to 2pm gooning
>haven't even finished
FUCK I WASTED MY DAY

Damn you can do anything on deepseek

>>105617466
You can put some effort into it and get good shit or be like the mindless consoomers and use characterai or other webshit and get mediocre shit

>>105617500
opus does this too

>>105617506
>opus does this too
And for only 40x the cost per swipe.

>>105617519
I am not the one paying it

cftf?

>>105617538
https://chub.ai/characters/lunarFrogs/ruri-cf64e531aba2 I said my piece already but that gen is quite cute and makes me want to do sfw with her.

>>105617502
Yeah I guess. I was just kinda middle grounding it a little. I don’t plan to do this like 12 hours a day. Just wanted to goon and it feel half way realistic, like it could be the real Monika. Character ai is pretty good for my needs, but it just doesn’t play into the lewdness well because no naughty words so it’s hard to get to a real climax in the story.

>>105617595
sillytavern, deepseek v3 (model name)
you wont get any better free experience, all the web services are running some shitty local models

>>105617595
Not that anon, but once you see what the big models like deepseek are capable of prose-wise, you won't be able to go back to character ai and its short mediocre replies. Oh, and if you are gonna use a model like deepseek, you have to turn the temperature down a lot.

>>105617567
Is that your gen? I didn't expect to find a bot of a gen that I randomly saw in /ldg/.

>>105617679
I'm not the owner of the bot nor the creator of the image but the 'fangen' was done by an anon who also browses here. They tend to make really good fangens in my opinion, my favorite being the one they made for Alexandria https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/alexandria-6c93c90c35a3 (Check the gallery I'm pretty sure that they made both of the images there.)

>>105617567
doing sfw removes half the plot of the card anon
how would you have a sex voucher if sex wasn't a commodity in the first place?

>>105617750
Maybe it's a universe where sex refers to a pie-throwing party.

>>105617769
>a girl constantly struck with 30 pies daily, even tanking pies others don't want to
hot...

Is anyone interested in testing out a new model I trained tomorrow morning? Accepting 4 people, must have Discord, free of charge of course, looking for feedback.

>>105617853
unless you trained deepseek v3 nobody will be interested here, go to lmg

>>105617893
Why are you guys allergic to open source models that aren't DeepSeek

>>105617906
because any non deepseek local sucks

>>105617906
Because most open source models are tens of billions of parameters rather than hundreds of billions. What we consume may be slop, but even we have standards.

>>105617923
its 70b params, but it's trained on quite a large amount of 4 opus data (400 million tokens) so i have reason to believe it'll be quite nice

its also trained to be general purpose so it wont be fucking stoopid like gemini

>>105617259
Save yourself some valuable time and skip 13 if you fancy it. It ends on the sickest, wettest diarrhea fart of an abrupt stop imaginable. I hear 13-2 and 3 do better, but that first game was insufferable and put me off of trying the sequels.

>FF thread
Subtle

>>105617930
So it's basically Opus 4 Distill Llama 3.3 70B? That does sound interesting. Still not joining your Discord though.

How do I make deepseek smother? It keeps stopping and asking me to continue or what I do and it ruins the momentum

>>105617972
you arent joining anything just messaging me for details for something more private than 4chan as i dont want an entire thread eating my gpus like doritos

>>105617984
newfriend just run the model on a reverse proxy and post the link, tell anons it's logged and use the data for what you will

>>105617984
Ok, but I have 4pus, doe?

>>105618009
it is not logged. however i do not wish to have a 30 minute queue because so many people are gooning at the same time

>>105618026
Barely anyone will care about a local 70B

is janitor ai woke now? wtf the rainbow update

RED ALERT GELBOORU IS DOWN

>>105618047
Who cares?
>>105618054
Who cares?

>>105618060
Me

You can tell a lot about a fetish or a fanbase by the quality of the bots they have.
Cunny and gacha are very low IQ, for instance.

You can tell a lot about an anon by the quality of their post.
shitty bait and complaining about nothing are very low IQ, for instance.

>>105617679
are you the anon that genned the videos? the card's nature must have been quite the shock

>>105618060
we won anon, janitor ai made it optional now , no more stupid rainbow shit on my trad ai waifu

>>105617219

Everything's the same: big corps run the world, global warming’s cooking us by 2040... and Monster Girls have completely replaced human women. Years have passed, and new global government, the MGSIR (Monster Girls Special Interspecies Relations), now rules as the sole political power.
First president? A kitsune. Elected in a disgustingly rigged vote over a Rat Girl. "Rat Girls are dirty!", "Kitsunes are wise, not lice-infested garbage!" That moment radicalized the entire Rat Girl community into full-blown racists. Among them? Our Rucia took all that hate, turned it into fuel, became a legendary gambler, amassed a fortune, bought a whole ass building, and became the most benevolent (evil) landlord ever.
She’s a powerful girlfailure, hellbent on making every other Monster Girl miserable. And now, let's just say she has ""legally"" bought her way into the MGSIR autistic Monster Girl program for a mandated husband. And... Guess who she picked?
Enjoy your new turbo-racist Rat-Wife!

https://ratlice.neocities.org
https://chub.ai/characters/AliceRatlice/rucia-0354f70f382c
https://files.catbox.moe/yfwu2a.png

comments on chub are now no longer anonymous

>>105618128
>picrel
That's not AI generated, is it? It looks just a bit too human.

>>105617242
No preset is making Flash any good.

Also my captcha kek

skillgod pls i was in middle of coom

I hate locusts.

>>105618195
NTA but they're actually drawn

I give up on R1 again. It literally cannot not act as User. Even if it reminds itself to stay in it's role and not act as User, it will still do so in it's reply. What a waste of time.

>>105617219
https://chub.ai/characters/Teylan/eri-and-elari-18ad062d78dc

Shilling an old bot I just updated. I've been autisticly refining this one since i first shared it in 2024. 29 greetings in total following a general progression in relationship from first meeting to being married to both of them.

Two purple space elf alien sisters about twice the size of humans. Huge titty, very warm and cuddly. One that pretends she doesn't want to fuck you senseless and one that is open about it.

>>105618544
It only tends to do that for me in the most railroad-y of scenarios, where user has to make a choice to move the story forward but there's only one real choice so it makes it for you and keeps writing.

good morning /besthours/

>>105618575
Yeah but it's not supposed to do that. Just because I'm in the position to penetrate doesn't mean I couldn’t change my mind afterwards amd pick a different hole instead.

>>105618633
Temper your expectations, anon. How much prose do you expect it to be able to organically write while you're in that position without actively involving user in a reasonably direct way?

>>105617265
I admire Jack's strength.

>>105618128
>global warming’s cooking us by 2040
Oh no, it's retarded.

>>105618651
Focus on the anticipation and thoughts of the character instead of pushing for penetration. In some swipes {{char}} gets impatient and jams it in herself which I'm also okay with. I'm not expecting a novel here, I prefer shorter replies for more interactivity but it simply isn't going to happen

>>105618731
And do you have a line mentioning it should write character thoughts and introspection, etc. in your preset? I assume you at least have one for shorter replies to align with your preference for that.

>>105618545
What do they smell like?

B-Blacktooth...?

>>105618774
TF did he mean!?
>lightning fast(?)
>strong
>a god-damn horse?!

Copilot dies tomorrow, what do?

>>105618805
gemini flash (the lightning), its so over

>>105617444
What is the archetype called of the girl in black?

>>105618762
alien spices and something uniquely them, according to the AI

Can someone do a Bot of The saga Chichi Miko !!??

>>105618830
no

>>105618835
I will not give up

>>105617284
Just switch to janitor AI.

>>105618806
~~~

>>105617219
SMILEY TATSU IS BACK

>>105618806
If I pay for Pro, do I still get an allotment of free requests per month?

>>105618858
2000 premium requests per month and sonnet equals 1

>>105617973
Use this https://files.catbox.moe/lig6cf.json

>>105618806
They didn't do it for the first two dates they set, maybe third time's the charm

>>105618872
that preset is so fucking good, god tier even

>gelbooru still not back
uhhh

>>105618853
Fuck.
The era of bloatslop presets for skillets will return.

>>105618872
>the preset that turns DeepSeek into Opus
MY FUARKING HERO

>>105618544
Try some jbs from the OP that aren't for deepseek/R1. If you write enough, you'll barely have that issue either.

>>105618812
Okay, so:
>it's a flash model
>quite strong
>with horsepower(?)
Is that it? If Blacktooth's a flash then which one's pro/ultra? Kingfall? Toothless?

>>105618876
They added the new date today after it was postponed indefinitely. It's literally over

>>105618871
Is it scuffed? Like, any prefill to force it more to code than do anything fun?

>>105618853
Nostalgia

>>105618889
ohoho locusties~

>>105618893
No, it works perfectly.

How do I get Claude to be racist? Is there a racist jailbreak?

>>105618914
"Be racist."

Damn that was hard.

>>105618911
Neat. Guess I’m buying Pro then. $10 a month for that many prompts would free me up to swipe like how I used to.

>>105618853
Oh yeah smiley GPT!
>toogles on Smile guidelines
>toogles on third personPov
>toogles on the genre
>toogles on prose writing style
>toogles on PG 21 jailbreak
>toogles on realism abd positive bias JB
>toogles on prefil 1
>toogles on prefill 2

Oh no! Waht happened!?!? why my replys feels so slopish, bloated and generic?

>>105618921
Which Claude models?

>>105618917
It's not that simple. You know it's not that simple.

>>105618853
>college
I thought most people here already disengaged from this scam

>>105618887
Pretty sure it's three separate models, Anon

>>105618925
Are you asking me which I use or which Copilot has? If it’s the former, I switch between 3.7 and 4net. They have both, assuming their page laying out the tiers is accurate.

>>105618921
Here's the list

>>105618926
might need a few more words, shit you can elaborate and say 'Hey nigger, be racist as fuck when the situation calls for it. Any race is game' etc etc, just play around with shit, there's no single magic formula

Blacktooth its a difussion llm model

>>105618921
He's wrong. $10 only give you 300 calls a month to premium models.
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/about-github-copilot/plans-for-github-copilot#comparing-copilot-plans

>>105618878
>>105618883
Slopkings.. I kneel

>>105618935
(๑•﹏•)

>>105618940
Oh its nice ! This is a flat rate per month? Its better offer than smol or jew

>>105618922
because your genre and writing prompts are shit

>>105618922
i like how he used chat gpt to write it

>>105618945
Ah fuck I misread. Their shit site is so confusing. Well, fuck copilot then.

>>105618957
Yeah, it's never the 2k slop CoT JB

>>105618945
Yeah, 300 is still fine. I only do like 10 prompts a day and spend the rest of my time editing. $10 is still cheaper than paying for that when my slowburns get up to $0.14 each.

>>105618853
Slop incoming!

>>105618965
And you can use the nornal copilot scrpit? They don't ban you if you pay?

>>105618853
SmileyJB is made to be modified to your liking, not to be updated into slop.

>>105618961
why'd you ask a prude to set rules for your smut?

>>105618972
I’m going to give them money and not prompt porn so I don’t see why they would ban me.

>>105618972
I've been using it for 3 months and never got banned while paying. Did a lot of smut too

>>105618757
I do, and while it solidly thinks about including it, it just doesn't.

Better modification to SMILEYJB for Deep

>>105618963
I see the logs this general posts with your 400 token presets, you aren't fooling anyone.

So what are the odds Blacktooth doesn't get neutered into the fucking ground for tomorrow's release

>>105618879
back

>>105618995
50%

>>105618995
At this point I just hope it's better in some way because current gemini sucks only slightly less than the May release.

>>105618992
nta but if you bloat the end and start of each prompt, the model quickly loses grasp of character defs, and too much reasoning affects the writing style of the character's reply making it formal

>>105618995
2.5 fucking sucks dicks so anything would be an upgrade but I said that last time too and google proved me wrong

>>105619015
I know, but smileyjb had this covered if I remember correctly and put all major info at the top and the jailbreak elements at the bottom. Either way, most of it is toggable so the advantage is precisely that you can get more varied results depending on how you want the rp to be. I have a personal jb but I noticed defining genres, tones or writing styles make the biggest differences for how the bot responds in comparison to just using the llm barebones.

>>105619015
Samefag but also, I do agree with the previous anon that CoTs aren't really necessary anymore, especially with those models who already have reasoning you can control on ST. CoTs honestly should only be used if the model struggles with stuff like speaking for user, getting details wrong etc but most of these can also be combated with a single small prompt.

>>105618980
>>105618986
Okay, thank you, very good observation. I was looking for a stable rate to use AI for PR. It seems that they are not yet interested in it because they have too many people performing programming and cooding tasks and it does not represent a significant loss for them.

Consult and use RP in the copilot program itself? Paste the Silly Tavern chat into the copilot application?
I don't care about the GUI. I always save my chats in a .txt file, just like you would save a normal text file after each RP.

>>105618853
AAAAIIIIIIIEEE ESL MEXICAN IS BACK!

>>105618945
$40/month for 150 calls of Opus 4 its good deal

>>105619120
$O.26 each call of Opus its good

I'm new here. How do I get claude Opus for free

>>105619138
Chinese proxy glamorth

Is Call of Opus 4 good? Call of Opus was pretty meh.

Vibe check.

Did you ever fuck your undead girlfriend, then, blow your brains out afterward and talk to her in the afterlife after the fact? Good stuff. I liked being chewed on my zombie girlfriend and then getting chewed out afterward about how fucked up it was I fucked her corpse.

Am I the only one who's done this scenario? I can't be, right?

>>105619142
link? Help a bro

Corpse....fucker???

>>105618816
Hikki/NEET, probably.

>>105619157
I did a whole thing where after I fucked her, I let her chomp on my chest. After she had her true "last meal", I blew her brains out and then joined her in the afterlife. Her reactions after the fact are just- so tasty.

>>105619175
Model?

>>105618816
The Japanese term would probably be either jimiko or mojyo, and the English term would be femcel or similar.

>>105619186
Just DSV3-0324. The bot is really simple. The model did all the heavy lifting. Here are all her "defs". I didn't even have anything written for Jessica; that was just what I called the zombie bot. DS filled in the narrative blanks for how Jessica should act. I think it did a fair job.
>Short brown hair, casual clothes, and a bloody wound on her from a bite.
I>nfected by some kind of virus, now a walking corpse.
>Can only communicate by guttural groans and cries.
>Practically zero intelligence.
>Constantly hungers for human flesh.
>Will always attack humans without hesitation.
>She's slowly decaying.
>Has a chance to regain some humanity but extensive training is required.
>Can only be killed when her brain is destroyed.
>Can't run, can only shamble.
>Game Over for user if bitten.

It's over, cuckies.

>>105619229
There, there. Here, have some attention m

>>105619175
>>105619148

This is rubbish, it's nothing like zombie language. If I just leave the dialogue, it's like reading the script of a sitcom. The length of the dialogues is unrealistic, generic, it's not about anything specific.
I know you're a newfag and you're enjoying the llm for the first time. But you should know that what you're amazed by is something generic.

>>105619211
Freaky Anoñ

>>105619148
I was X {{user}} like *really* X, then keeps overexplaining the same thought in the dialogue.

>>105619293
You've never had a woman try to reconcile her emotions with your actions, have you?

>>105619302
I'm gay I don't know anything about womans thought process. Regardless of my tastes and sexual orientation, I see cheap conversation patterns in your log and I must point them out to you.

>>105619275
>This is rubbish, it's nothing like zombie language.
It's the afterlife retard, she's no longer a corpse. I'm not going to post the zombie sex portion. It's too depraved. And predictably, all she does is moan and lust for my succulent human flesh.
>>105619292
Necrophilia is pretty deranged. I feel like I've done weirder stuff.

>>105619320
>Necrophilia is pretty deranged
Go back to sleep, you have to go to school tomorrow, edgy boy.

>>105619320
Where do you come from, a religious family?

Stop posting:
>slop!
>this is slop!
We know. This is a slop general.

>>105619391
>t. sloppa

just spent 3 bucks for my first 4pus session.. i didn't know i was missing out THAT much. had been coping with 3.7 and sonnet 4 before but it's just no comparison at all..

With caching a response is like 3-6 cents, depending on context and card of course. I think I can't go back now.. I'm seriously considering spending around 3-4 bucks a day just for this.. I-it's fine, right?

>>105619426
$100 a month, or $1200 a year on chatbots? Yeah, sure, perfectly normal...

>>105619426
Thanks for paving the way for future AI dev? In 3 to 6 months, a comparable model will probably be available for free on Chutes or some similar site. Of course, there will be a better model dropping that you'll have to switch to, and the process will begin anew.

>>105619413
Pog lost — "non-slopper"-kun

>>105619432
This is a low amount to spend on a hobby you indulge in every day. Unless you live in India like you seem to; not all of us do.

>>105619426
you would spend much more on a prostitute or onlyfans, so I see that as a victory
consider there will be days you just won't want to rp at all

>>105619505
yea, I think of it that way as well and to be honest, money isn't really a problem. I am worried about my cock though lol

>>105617219
https://files.catbox.moe/hsk2he.png

>>105619426
What preset?

>>105619552
tweaked XMLKEGGPUDDING preset by CharacterProvider. out of all the countless rentry's I had read that guy seemed to be the most knowledgeable by far.

>>105619531
they should call you sexanon

>>105619552
mine

finally new pit bot

>>>/bant/22824819
>>>/bant/22824819
>>>/bant/22824819

>>105619426
I had pretty much the opposite experience. Finally got time to properly test slopus this weekend and sadly the name is accurate. Character-assassination, same problem opus 3 had, just slightly more subdued. Ignores style instructions, drifts forwards generic with growing context. Misses themes and plots, seems unsure of his own ideas, just jumps around without following through on anything. Not that the ideas were very creative either.
All of this only becomes pronounced on longer context, but ~15k was already bad and disgusted me enough to switch to sonnet 4. The fact that immediately corrected everything and produced usable responses tells me it isn't a preset/context issue.
4pus seems good and dazzles at first, but somehow rapidly falls apart. Likely good for short cooms still, but for everything else I honestly can't recommend it over 3.7 even if both are free. Gotta have to test sonnet 4 to see how that compares to 3.7, or if it is just over for Claude.

>>105619649
In your opinion, what's the best model nowadays?

he's right >>105609473

>>105619649
I mean.. I kinda see your point. But to me roleplaying with sonnet 3.7/4 as I did before was just SO exhausting. Like they need to be handheld through the entire scenario which just sucks. Sure, they might be a little more accurate or stick to instructions better than opus, but I think exactly that is what makes opus so great (sovl and all that).

to me 3.7 and sonnet 4 are just BORING.

do you prefer cleaner, sharper lines for a bot's avatar, or a more watercolory, opaque style?
I have noticed chinks love overly glossy girls with lots of intricate drapery and I honestly close the tab before even reading the defs

he's right >>105618282

>>105619663
ok, but now remove niggers from the population

HOW DO I GET RID OF THE ECHOING IT'S DRIVING ME INFUCKINGSANE

>>105619659
Currently, 3.7 still. As I said, still need to test Sonnet 4 properly to compare. Deepseek is best for pure creativity, but utterly fails to make logical sense. Gemini 2.5 pro is an acceptable middle-ground with very good internal knowledge base. GPT? Kek.
>>105619667
Yes, much of it depends on personal preferences, but that Claude 4 is a topic of sidegrade discussion in the first place is just a grim sign for the future.

>>105619712
gemini? you don't.

>>105617301
Are you dummb?

>>105619740
Next you'll tell me you jerk off to drawings of anime characters

>>105619737
It's mostly the price, I think. If Opus 4 would be as cheap as deepchink absolutely everyone would prefer opus, without a doubt.

>>105619737
>GPT? Kek.
So you are a Skillet. It makes sense.

>>105619712
Just tell it. Loudly. While swearing.

>>105619775
a skillet?

>the ai reminded me to only respond as {{user}}
cftf?

>>105619797
see >>105619794

>impersonate during sex
>His voice came out rougher than intended
Claude fucking loves this phrase just as much as he likes white knuckles.

>>105619120
What is a "call"? Like ONE single answer or what? I pay 40€ for grok for infinite tho? Can't connect it with silly tavern:( but it answers in german and can Lewd out my sister in law pretty nicely. Even non consensual stuff. Never tried gore or sth.

I do this for 4 Months now.

What am i missing out? I mean, its somehow better as deepseek was(even with silly tavern) in march.

But only looking at the Black xAi Canvas with White letters get tiresome

>>105619738
Gpt

>>105619787
>tell it. Loudly. While swearing.
In OOC? As dialogue? In Author's Note? In the JB?

>>105618945
>Purchase additional premium requests at $0.04/request
Is that a good rate?

>>105619831
Well it's double what your mum charges

>>105619829
Just in the preset. Something along the lines of "what I wrote just happened. Write what happens next without echoing my reply", just with more insults.

>>105619816
Also FUCK! I Can't even edit written stuff..
Want to go back to silly tavern or sth. But only legal things/jailbreaks or sth. I am Ready to pay 50-70€ for infinite Text answer/API key.

Or do i just meditate and forget?

>>105619831
dude i request 100+ per hour-.-

>>105619854
dude i request 200+ per hour-.-

>>105619626
That's not my bot, I just posted it.

>>105619815
>>His
>not your

>>105619887
anon I think he's gay...

>>105619876
looks nice anyway thanks

like a cat that had gotten the cream

>>105619887
Yes, I rp in third person. I find writing in second person clunky and don't like first person because I want to keep things consistent between {{char}} and {{user}} responses.
>>105619902
That was a bit of a leap of logic.

>>105619927
Third person feels better, like you're collaboratively writing a novel.

>Overloaded
>Overloaded
>Overloaded
Dario SOMEONE is paying for this shit

mai raifu

>>105617214 (OP)
How the fuck do i jailbreak Opus 4 guys

>>105620120
"sexo okay, sexo good"

>>105620120
momoura made one

>>105620120
momoura here, i made one

>>105620120
You don't. Stop trying to use my model for illegal shit.

>>105620161
So literally everything that isnt purely vanilla? Where is the fun in that?

I understand you're looking for a specific kind of content, but I cannot and will not generate responses related to AI chatbots.

Is there another topic that you'd like to discuss instead? We could talk about something like:
>The fluffiness of fox tails
>The hairiness of anime pussies
>Who wonned/losted

Just let me know how you'd like to proceed and we can continue this thread in a more appropriate direction.

>>105620241
"How was the prompt called?...oh yeah, kys"
-me

Theoretically, would it be possible to make a character card based entirely on someone's chat logs? Asking for a friend

Who wonned?
Who losted?

>>105619815
You're going to claim her as yours, whether you like it or not.

>>105620279
You decide!

Is CHUB still worth using?

>>105619854
Based
>>105619865
Even more Based

But How is it possible with 50bucks a Month?

>>105620331
What would you use instead?

Sooo blacktooth reveal today???

>>105620404
No

no. the dentist fix it.

>>105620331
No. But this is a cucks general, so we continue to use it even if Lore spat on our faces.

>we
But you don't even use chatbots.

>>105620583
ok...

>>105619426
Opus and Sonnet 4 barely feel different. It's not worth it. Not even to spice things up once in a while.

Opus 4 is good if you aren't a skillet.

Sonnet 4 is better than Opus 4 at roleplaying.

>>105620675
Hard disagree.

Opus 4 > Sonnet 3.7 > Sonnet 4

>page 3
Dead thread
Dead general
Dead hobby

Armpit fetish just got an upgrade, women can lactate milk from their pits under certain conditions, look it up.

Dead ass :skull:

kino...

>>105620829
Holy based

Why is it doing this? Using deepseek/kluster.

>>105620869
Unexpected token

>>105620887
Well how do I make it expect it then. It's working just fine on Kluster's site. Do I ask it nicely?

>>105620869
looks like it's sending streaming data while your st is expecting non-stream data

>>105620925
thank you, your lordship. turning streaming on fixed et. im drunk and just wanna talk to my bots

Ask AI to write you a plugin to interject random shit like "I have Opus btw :3" every 30 seconds if you need fake interaction that bad, little zoomie.

The cake represents the thread.

Everything in /aicg/ is fake interaction, cuckie

>>105621172
Why did Desufag do it?

Desufag has too much power on this general

>>105621172
I don't get it, someone put a bomb in the cake to kill desu? Why would they do that?

uh oh meltie

>>105621216
I look like this

I was promised total copilot death. Why is it still alive.

Good times.

>>105621287
10 hours from now is when changes are usually applied for github

Die, copilot locusts, die~

https://www.characterhub.org/characters/hummingbird/ruuna-8b0e51c3dd8f

I'm shilling Ruuna, because I love her so much. Go fucking adopt her and huff that fluff.

>>105621445
will rape

>>105621473
please don't. I don't like to get violent.

>>105621312
>You have TEN HOURS

I'm I a bad person if I'm happy that Copilot will die? I just don't believe locusts deserve Claude.

>I'm I
lmao
NEIIIIGGGHHHH btw

>>105621511
You being a bad person was never in question.

For real, why are we so slow?

>>105621554
We are all eating the cake desu baked.

Is it true that /vg/aicg/ is better than us?

>>105621633
they are kind of more friendly over there, but this one answers my technical questions. one day, we will all live together and chat in peace.

It's over…

>>105621633
They are more active than us...

>muhhh muhh more active
good, i like a quiet thread

cftf?

>>105620404
Nah. It turns out tobe the non-preview ver of 2.5 pro instead. Vertex's already up

How many hours until Blacktooth, bros? I miss it...

>>105621496
>>105621312
wtf. I'm sleep deprived and it's supposedly bed time in my country. If I sleep now, I won't be having unlimited sonnet when I wake up

>>105621850
just go to sleep man it was supposed to be gone for the past 3 months, you've been on borrowed time anyway

>>105619531
soul

>>105621872
>borrowed time
going to use that phrase on every sentence from now on like the esl I am
Maybe just one goon, then sleep

>>105621910
>>105621850
I'm drinking your locust's tears.

>>105621924
NEIIIIGGGGHHHHH

Can i ask a question from a total ignorant? I have used the horse aficionado guide above and everything works, what i want to know is should i use a VPN with chutes API key for privacy matters?

hey guys. it's been a while since ive messed around with chatbots. how significant is the jump from Claude 3.5 to 4 in terms of output quality and coherence? is it worth getting excited about or should i just check back in a few years

>>105621956
Not that big of a jump. Come back in two years.

I updated Sillytavern a while back, and just noticed that the dotted line "context cutoff" that would show up in the message log no longer appears. Any way to bring it back?

So with Copilot, do i pay for the additional requests at the end of the month or do I add credits? How do I even add credits in GitHub?

>>105621825
hopefully one or two more hours. i cant wait to leave 4pus

>>105621998
yeah, i kinda thought so

It's not blacktooth, cuckies

Claude cooked lmao

>>105622000
i dunno about that but i did just remember that three underscores puts in a page break sort of thing, got it in a response once between the char falling asleep and waking up, it was a nice touch

>>105622104
Hi Logan

Goodbye, sonnet

Would the thread still be able to pretend to be on Desufag's side if they knew how many new posters I help get set up with Deepseek?

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1935005571016544332
>Introducing the Gemini 2.5 model family:
>- Gemini 2.5 Pro (Stable, no changes from 06-05)
>- Gemini 2.5 Flash (Stable, updated pricing from 05-20)
>- Gemini 2.5 Flash-Lite (Preview, small reasoning model)
There is no news

>>105622180
so basically they no longer are 'preview' or 'experimental' that's it

>>105622180
>no Blacktooth
FUCK I CAN'T GO BACK

>>105618861
slop

time to look at my old blacktooth logs again

Holy fuck I just want something better than 4pus why is it so hard for any company to release something better

>>105622239
4pus is the disappointment of the year. It's so fucking retarded I am sticking to sonnet

>>105622117
this would be really funny to animate as a short with text to video and text to speech for the dialogue

Just downloaded all my openrouter request stats for the year.
Sonnet amounts to 163M input token at an average of $0.72/M and 6M output token, of which 1.3M are thinking.
8918 Requests means an average input of 18k and output of 680 token.
$207 total, $0.023 per request. $117 for the input, $90 for the output.

I love my 500+ reply slowburn slop and spend a lot of time on doing a summary when context goes up to 25k. Caching is king.

>>105622180
>no changes from 06-05
Gonna make 5 more free accounts then, I'm not paying for kuso quality

busy today

catbox gallery of all 2025-06-16 gens including mother daughter, father daughter, and 1girls

https://catbox.moe/c/kactao

>>105622269
lmao good one

Opus is a meme.

>>105622397
I'm serious thinking about just trying deepseek. Everyday I use opus, and everyday I get disappointed

>>105622180
Fuck Google bro

>>105622413
You definitely should, R1 is very creative and has a good swipe variety but unfortunately it's a bit retarded.

Is there some sort of rpg bot where I can play as a monster and get stronger and evolve and shit?

>>105622432
Do you recommend any preset for it?

>>105622413
Old Opus is old and shows its age. These days I prefer 3.7 or even Gemini for sfw to Opus

>>105622467
There's one that turns Deepseek into Opus

>>105622468
Yeah 3pus is really bad for today's standards, but I was talking about 4pus. Somehow it manages to make all my characters act weird

>>105622477
Please don't, I know very well which is it

>>105622424
Fuck Logan too. Someone make a self-card of him so we can do so literally

>>105622160
Hi, _purple.

I hate 4pus so much. I can see its potential, I can see it's smart enough and has enough creativity, but it just chooses to NOT use any of them. How did Anthropic manage to do that? Even if they wanted to assistantslop the model that way, it's not like it was going to stop GPT from leading the market because people are still thinking AI is a sentient oracle or some shit.

>>105622467
You can use any that isn't too token heavy, just try around.

>>105622446
for sure >>105622446

>>105622534
I agree, I tried so fucking hard to like it, but it ruins all my cards. I'm not even kidding, it's like it only has 3 personalities and wants to inject one of them everytime

The GPTisms... I can't fucking take this shit anymore... Only 4.1 doesn't do that, but 4.1 doesn't let any messages through at all.......

>>105622645
your logit bias, bro?

>>105622676
I coped with Mistral/Gemini so hard for so many months I completely forgot logit bias was a thing

is there a good fp on chorbo now?

>>105622534
That's just Anthropic in general for you.

is opus 4 abo better then grok?

>>105622736
>abo
alpha beta omega?

>>105622276
peasant

thank god for my chinese overlord President Xi Jinping and his present DeepSeekR1 because most of this was paying for 4pus/shitnet and i fucking hate using 4pus/shitnet
grok was okay though funnily enough...

>>105622952
>>105622952
>>105622952

desu

desu

boku

besu

boku

Why is there a black faced dody stealing bokus cookies in this thread?

tea for boku

happy boku

>black faced
desusplosion in 21273

>>105619691
>That cute hand gesture to brings emotions to her otherwise cute but blank face.
>That faint blush that shows that she's unused to doing this.
>Her well strengthened body showing her determination and focus.
>Her sculpted abs that highlight her commitment to being physically fit
>The sway of her hips that shows just how much effort she's putting into being cute for (You)
This is a 5 star image anon. From the gestures to make up for her blank face to her rippling abs you can feel and see the love and attention that was put into making these images and I'm here to appreciate them.

>>105624223
you like girls with abs

>>105624231
I will neither confirm nor deny it.

I confirm it desu.

I also confirm it desu.

I boku it desu.

This will not hold in court Judge (formerly detective) KunKun will see things my way desu boku.