Thread 105624520

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>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
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>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

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Previous: >>105616981

I have a 3080 and kinda want a 5080. worth y/n

They see me buildin'
They hatin'

>>105624542
Not really IMO. There's too few games that /need/ more than a 3080 to get in a playable state. We are, however, talking about leisure equipment so your own opinion is really all that matters.

>>105624593
I just would like more frames for my shootan games on my 1440p, having to turn settings down to potato sometimes feels peasant tier

>>105624542
>>105624617
9070 xt for 700 or less, everything else is over priced

https://www.techpowerup.com/334024/intels-new-ceo-lip-bu-tan-reaffirms-world-class-foundry-vision-casting-doubt-on-spinoff-rumors
>At the time of crisis for Intel and uncertainty with foundry goals, Intel has appointed a semiconductor veteran as its new Chief Executive Officer (CEO)—Lip-Bu Tan. In a letter to Intel employees, Lip-Bu Tan has quietly addressed Intel Foundry spinoff rumors, saying that his commitment as a CEO is to "restore Intel's position as a world-class products company, establish ourselves as a world-class foundry and delight our customers like never before." Hence, the foundry spinoff rumors are now not so certain.

*Spongebob Narrator* THREE. MONTHS. LATER.
https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2025/06/intel-will-lay-off-15-to-20-of-its-factory-workers-memo-says.html
>Intel plans to lay off up to a fifth of its factory workers, an enormous cutback that will have a profound effect on one of the chipmaker’s core businesses. “These are difficult actions but essential to meet our affordability challenges and current financial position of the company. It drives pain to every individual,” Intel manufacturing Vice President Naga Chandrasekaran wrote to employees Saturday. He said the company is targeting job reductions between 15% and 20%, with most of the cuts taking place in July. Overall, though, the layoffs will surely eliminate several thousand jobs – and quite possibly more than 10,000. Intel eliminated 15,000 jobs across the company in 2024, including 3,000 in Oregon.
Lip is everything the critics wanted to accuse Pat of being.
I guess Intel really enjoys getting dom'd by TSMC...

>>105624542
Not at this point, wait for the 3GB SUPER refresh.

>>105624646
i will never buy amd but thank you

>>105624617
Sure. Again, your subjective experience is the whole point. If the FPS boost is worth $1000(+tip) to you then go for it.

>>105624656
Have fun with broken drivers then nvidiot

I drive

>>105624542
I remember the first benchmarks made it barely better than a 4080 but it's been some time now. Supposedly a version with higher VRAM will release but no idea if you need it. What's your use case anyway?

>>105624687
gaming and gooning. I only upgrade every 5 or so years

Damn he's posting the same 5 screenshots again... nvidiabros what will we do..

what if I just don't use dlss and don't buy the beaner 5060 card?

>>105624714
I see. Unless there is really something you want to play that needs it I'd consider waiting but then again I thought the same with the 40 series and the 50 turned out to be only marginal better while being more expensive. Not sure what will happen with the 60 series.

>>105624714
Please just make sure to post here and update everyone once your brand new 5080 starts black screening. I want to see your tears retard.

>>105624714
>and gooning
Wait for the 5080 Super for 24gb of vram

>>105624768
https://www.guru3d.com/story/rumor-has-it-that-amd-is-planning-a-radeon-rx-9080-xt/
>Instantly scalped to 1500$+
>9080 XT with more vram and similar performance will be available for 800
>Better performance in non cucked ai models like deepseek, no one cares about FagGPT anymore
Novideo will be destroyed

>>105624753
Not him but I will post here when that happens (see you never again)

>>105624795
No Cuda No Care

>>105624795
>RX 9080 XT
>only source is MLID, who has worse than coinflip accuracy
>AMD has explicitly said they aren't going to release a high-end card

>>105624520 (OP)
I have an MSI X570S EDGE MAX WIFI and have run it for about three years, prob 10K hours. The LAN port is a Realtek 2.5Gbe LAN and it started failing about 1K hours ago. Constantly just disconnects and reconnects immediately. All my other systems don't receive events, only this one. All my drivers are up to date including MOBO and I've tried numerous fixes all for naught so I've come to the conclusion its a hardware issue. I'm going to replace it with
>https://www.microcenter.com/product/693986/tp-link-tx201-25-gigabit-pcie-network-adapter

Any foreseeable issues going from onboard LAN to network card any of you might be aware of so I don't waste my time? Thanks, anons!

>>105624818
Have you tried older LAN driver versions instead of updating to the newest?

>>105624801
Cope
>>105624811
MLID was right about everything for shartwell and rdna 4. Nvidiots just can't handle his truth so they deny reality until all his leaks are confirmed and then they pretend MLID didn't predict it.

>>105624832
Yup, this started about 4 or 5 versions ago. Tried rolling back to even earlier versions from before install date and no joy. Thanks, anon

I don't know why we fight. They're all shit companies but competition is good because we get better value as a result. I'm tired of Shitvidia gaslighting people into thinking 8GB is enough because they want to make even more profits.

>>105624847
The only other thing you could try is an alternative cable and see if this fixes it but I never had a LAN cable dying on me.

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/myTCPJ

2500/2600€ budget, France
Fans and AIO are at around 170€ total so I'm just in
Only for gaming at 1440p.
I tried to put some aesthetic put into it (the MOBO is placeholder, I'm waiting for a black version of an AM5 back connector one)
It's a first draft and I'll be waiting for sales and the black MOBO

>>105624938
>wood

>>105624938
>DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory
You sure you picked the right one? 6000CL30 is usually what you want.

>>105624900
I swapped cables with another rig and I continued to get the same events being recorded.

>>105624969
Wood is amazing, RGB is the gay one

>>105624991
I see. I sadly only ever had an USB adapter which would increase the latency slightly. I'd assume a PCIe one shouldn't have those issues but you might want to check online.

Completed it on Intel Arc.

>>105625024
Reason I went with the card instead of USB is because of latency. I was actually surprised how few cards are available on the market. I guess MOBOs all having them integrated for the past 15 years or so is the reason.

We know watercooling is worthless, but if someone is already going to use an AIO and plans to deshroud their GPU, would it be smarter to do a custom loop instead or is the hassle not worth it?

>Intel will enter the high-end GPU market next gen while AMD opts out again
LOL

>>105625067
How common are crashes on Arc in general?

You will not tell the name of this one.
Good old games.
Completed on Arc.

I know this is the build thread but if you had to get a prebuilt, what would be the best option? A family member is asking me about one and me building it for them or helping them do it isn't going to be practical.

>>105625113
why can't you build it for them

>>105624971
You're right, corrected that

>>105625115
They live on the other side of the country.

>>105625080
I dont even know if I could use a card like this without an adapter on my modern mobo cause I only have PCIe x16. The demand for Wifi is likely higher than LAN.

>>105625095
Call of duty dx11 does not have borderless and it crashed few times when i swich to windows explorer <-> game. And also if you skip shader pre compiling game setting it can crash at middle of the level.
On average modern games runs well.
Even crap like picrel.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intels-next-gen-nova-lake-s-core-ultra-series-to-feature-up-to-52-cores-16p32e4lp-with-150w-tdp
Crazy how intards made fun of AMD for bulldozer ans fake cores all those years ago and now intel is going to launch this dumpster fire with double the amount of fake estrogen cores vs real cores. Meanwhile zen6 will be a 24 real cores 48 thread monster.

>>105625113
Gamers Nexus reviews some prebuilds.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsuVSmND84QuM2HKzG7ipbIbE_R5EnCLM

If your family member lives near a Microcenter, their PowerSpec prebuilt PCs are okay.
They can also pay a Microcenter/Best Buy employee to build a PC off of the parts bought in-store.

>>105625269
Who would have thought that one day AMD would have the best CPUs and no one would recommend Intel.

if amd good why doesnt anyone on steam have a pc with their cards

Dont know where else to ask, but im trying to undervolt my card in MSI afterburner but it just doesnt stick, I change the curv down to 0.950v and it still at 1,050v after I hit apply, it just doesnt go down, what do?

>>105625467
Ask the chinese.

>>105625545
>Meanwhile on radeon
>Just drag the power limit slider down and put in a negative voltage offset in adrenalin, no shitty external software needed that doesn't work half the time
LMAOing at ur life and shitty gpu

Would there be any problems if I stayed in claw grip with my mouse for most of the day?

amd's naming is so bad like how can you tell a 9950x3d is better than a 9800x3d. and like having the 5 makes it seem like its a low tier of the next generation

>>105625730
>bigger number better
>impossible to deduce
Gee cleetus, how come you can count!?

>>105625545
Don't use those "manual" overclocking apps, they're useless these days. Use the Nvidia or AMD app that came with your drivers. You tell it what you want and it automatically handles the rest. You lose precision but it'll handle it dynamically. Or turn on Automatic Tuning, wait about half an hour, and let AI™ find the best settings for your card.

>>105625755
u know how a 5060ti is better than a 3070? like that bc its easy to deduce what generation it is and what tier it is or something like i7 6500 vs 9700. i cant even tell what generation an amd anything is. its like everything starts with a 9 or 7 and which ones better is basically random

What's a good budget GPU for gaming? Specifically something $150 or under, i'm poor as fuck. I'm thinking something new but you can't really get anything good with that price new, I'm just concerned I might get something that's been used to datamine if I buy used. Im also willing to buy chink shit if needed but I am trying to stay clear of that. If you have any card recommendations/tips for buying, let me know please. Thank you.

>>105625774
>whataboutism
That wasn't the example given cleetus.

>>105625774
while I'll agree that the laptop chips have a garbage naming scheme, the desktop ryzens have the exact same naming scheme as intel what the fuck
thousands for the generation, hundreds for the tier (and general R5/R7/R9 naming), and occasional dozen for higher end chips
did you get confused by the i9 10850K or the i7 12790F too anon

>>105625666
I'd rather use MSIAB over the bloated garbage "apps" both AMD and jewidia really want you to install. Works on my machine.

How many people here just move their old hard drive to the new PC? Or just fresh install windows 10 or 11.

>>105625765
Don't listen to this retard. This automatic shit always is either super conservative and gives no performance boost or will be unstable and crash. Just test manually on something like super position or steel nomad until you find the max your card can do without crashing, then play actual games and if it crashes you dial it back. Repeat until stable and you have the max performance of your card. It's very simple and easy to do and if you can't manage this you should just leave your card on stock like a cuck.

>>105625792
what are talking about, the naming is what i was talking about. those are the examples. look at this chart. the names dont make any sense. the 7800 is better than the 79950 but the 9800 isnt better then the 9950. the 9900 is all the way down there yet the 9800 is the 2nd one. none of it makes sense

>>105625806
You should do a fresh install when doing a platform upgrade (and is less hassle when you DON'T have everything on C:\).

>>105625545
Watch how this video guide sets a voltage cap in AB's Curve Editor, you want to set a GPU Core offset first to OC and undervolt the GPU (most GPUs can handle +90~120MHz offset, higher requires stability testing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOU
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md#undervolting

You want to apply the curve afterward and save the setting to one of the five profiles.
Click on the Windows icon to automatically apply the current profile on Windows bootup, but only after you've confirmed the OC + UV is stable.

>>105624542
Basically double the fps in raw perfm, with dlss even more because DLSS transformer was made specifically for 4xxx/5xxx cards and higher.

>>105625666
You can find the most performant & power-efficient V/F offsets across the entire operating voltage range using MSI Afterburner.
Adrenaline doesn't provide such granular tuning.

What's the best performing AIO right now?

is 8 gb VRAM enough for gaming non-AAA at 1080p60 medium settings? and what about in the future?

>>105626038
>is 8 gb VRAM enough for gaming non-AAA at 1080p60 medium settings?
Should be fine for most non-AAA titles.

>and what about in the future?
For non-AAA games, I think it will be okay for the next 3~4 years.

>>105625765
>idle 50 watts
>its meant to be played

>>105624673
576.28 working fine for me, a quick google reveals that a large culprit is using PCIe 5.0 in bios instead of 4

>>105626038
Go 12 or keep saving. Ideally 16.

>>105625545
Stop using voltage control and use the power limiter which does the exact same thing

>>105626038
To improve your 8 gb expirience you should look for full PCIe lane cpu like ryzen 7500f not 8400, then PCIe 5.0 motherboard and then x16 8 gb GPU.

Is there any 8 gb x16 v5.0 GPUs?

>>105625765
>Use the Nvidia or AMD app
Both are bloated pieces of shit that belong in the trash

>>105626038
>>105626138
>>105626138
I think thats the last chance for gpu manufacturers to sell you few more useless memory chips and make some free money.
Before pcie v 6.0 - 7.0 release wich bandwidth will be quadrupled.

>>105626247
>Before pcie v 6.0 - 7.0 release
Completely useless for consumer-grade parts, even a 5090 doesn't utilize all of 5.0

>>105626281
No, we speaking about vram intence scenarios and memory swapping.

>>105626321
right. he said consumer grade.

>>105626321
Well we already have 6.0 if you're worried about that, but it's not anything 99% of people are ever going to use or benefit from

what the reasons for gpu to boost beyond the max core/power limit when there's headroom
it is to have better benchmark results?

could installing new drivers have enabled something I might've unintentionally had disabled? I had 0 flickering on my OLED but after getting the newest nvidia drivers I now see VRR flicker
I'm not even sure if I had it disabled or not before, technically this monitor is just "freesync" and not gsync

>>105626394
>its meant to be played

>>105626394
well the logical course of action would be to remove the drivers and reinstall old drivers

>>105624646
>9070 xt for 700 or less
Better chance of finding a unicorn

>>105626407
>>105626410
okay i fixed it. it looks like it turned on gsync in the global settings so I turned it off and the VRR flickering is off now
I really never noticed any issues with gsync off every since i had this monitor, but i sure as shit noticed VRR flicker on my older OLED with it on

>>105624673
froggy on 4chan. i now have seen everything

Sirs please buy RTX 50 series. The more you buy, the more you save! Very good GPUs.

>>105626454
>installing the aids app
Literally why, you already have the control panel that's been around for 20 years which does the exact same thing without being a bloated piece of shit

>>105624795
>Available for 800
KEK

>>105626477
I got mine for 2700, for comparison the 3090 was a good 3300 euros when it released

>>105625335
I wonder how many of the people heavily shilling AMD now were also shilling for Intel back when it had the best gpus.

>>105625269
>3(three) differnt types of cores
literally lgbt cpu
at least they have a reason to rush for wingay 12 now

>>105626477
Dot.com bubble exploded.

>>105626038
>non-AAA at 1080p60 medium settings
Just get a used 3060.

>>105626558
>scaling is bad
Anon i...

>>105625136
>I dont even know if I could use a card like this without an adapter on my modern mobo cause I only have PCIe x16
Learned this, picrel, the other day while researching my replacement. Maybe this will be helpful for future builders as well.

>>105625269
I honestly don't get what's wrong with the e-cores

What workload wouldn't scale with e-cores but would with p-cores?

I'm on a 3070 right now and i've been thinking of grabbing a 9600xt. Now before you call me a retard and tell me it's barely a performance uplift I feel like going to 16gb of vram vs the 8 i'm on right now will be very liberating and allow me to crank up settings and still get around the same or very slightly better frames. Newegg now doing the trade in means I can get $230 for my 3070 so that would effectively bring down the price of the 9600xt under $200. I know I could probably sell my 3070 for around $300, but $70 doesn't feel like enough to go through the hassle of selling it.

>>105626831
I wouldn't do this, are you 1440p gaming?

>>105626884
Yeah, i'd really like to snatch up a 9700 or the XT but im not paying their markups.

Will a Ryzen 5 5600x bottleneck a RX 9060 XT?

>>105626919
No, it won't. Even an RX 9070 will run fine with that CPU @ 1440p.

>>105626893
I'd continue to customize game settings until next year's refresh lineup, which games are causing you VRAM issues?

>>105624520 (OP)
Anons. I'm about to get a second hand PC that comes with an i7 10700k, 32gb ram and a 12gb 3060rtx.
The build comes with a generic 850w, and I've been advised to get the MSI MAG 550 bronze instead.
Will it be enough?

>>105624646
>>105626447

Is 9070xt good for ryujinx/yuzu/shadps4? CPU is 9800x3d.

Is 5000 fine wine?

>>105627023
550W should be enough (125W CPU, 170W video card, 100W for the rest).
It's very rare for the CPU & video card to be running at max power load simultaneously.

where to buy a beige case? aside that crap flp case from SS, are there any modern ones?

When installing a rear mounted fan for my PC case, is it suppose to damage the case when I screw it in?

>>105627101
>It's very rare for the CPU & video card to be running at max power load simultaneously.
That's a really good point.
I do plan on playing games at 1440p, some at 4k. and also plan on messing around with local AI gen.
Is why I was worried, but great point!

Can someone recommend a htpc/mini PC? I want something that has 4k output for vids and streaming

>>105626497
> the 3090 was a good 3300 euros
Holy crap! This is obscene. I got my 4090 for almost half of that.

>>105626447
700 is already 150 over reasonable and you say it can't be found for this?

Im poor as shit but my gaming tastes are equally poor. I usually play shit from 10 years ago and I've never played anything above 60FPS.
Hows the gaming market looking for me? Is the 1060 still good?

>>105626009
Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 420. My 9950X3D never gets over 78°C. And I haven't installed any pulling fans on it yet because I don't feel it necessary with this performance.

>>105627197
I'm still rocking the 960 and I play games newer than 10 years so I assume the 1060 would do even better.

>>105627132
Screws usually damaging the fans.
I advice you to not mount rear fan.

>>105625782
> i'm poor as fuck
You shouldn't waste time with gaming, you should earn money. Seriously.
Now you are only poor but you will become very miserable if try to escape reality in this situation.

>>105624520 (OP)
>her gpu doesn't have an integrated morning star
ngmi

>>105627177
Yeah, luckily I got one for 500 euros second hand that wasn't used for mining or heavily used, great card, only took liek 5 years of waiting, though. Craziest thing is that even buying a 4090 right now is more expensive than a 5090 lmao.

>>105627197
1060 is a really good card for its time but if you can get a 1070/ti for $15 more, it'd be worth getting that instead

>>105625467
>if amd good
No one ever said this.

>>105627247
Shut the fuck up dude lol
People should be able to enjoy their lives and not live solely to earn a dime to every dollar made. People are killing themselves with your mentality because they arent machines

>>105627197
Pick 6 gb version. You will able to play Stalker 2.

>>105625113
> isn't going to be practical
What a lame excuse! You don't deserve to be helped here.

>>105625782
If you can get a 12gb 3060 for around that price then that's a pretty solid card

>>105627248
Lmao that can't be real.

>>105627241
So it's not necessary? A rear exhaust fan. My PC case is the corsair 3500x ARGB Mid-Tower ATX.

Whatever the reason, most people have an entry level GPU and build in general. The top sellers in the store are always brand new and demanding games. Does this mean that the 1% makes up for all the revenue or am I missing something?

>>105627124
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#y=300000

>>105627309
yes and also new games don't need to sell as many units to top the charts as old games since their price is high

>>105627309
3060 can easily run everything at 1080p60, even 1440p if you drop a few settings on poorly optimized titles.

Does anyone own this PNY 5080? What kind of fan RPM does it hit under load? Can't find any reviews with this info, I'm quite noise sensitive and anything beyond 1300 RPM is usually annoyingly loud for me.

>>105627366
Have you tried not being a faggot pussy? People who need dead silence are creepy. Ever heard of headphones? Listening to music? Playing video games? Watching shows? How does a fan even bother someone? It's white noise, people buy things specifically to make that noise it's a positive if anything. You noisecucks give me the ick.

>>105627366
I don't think there's a single gpu that goes under 1300rpm under full power, usually they're quieter if you're not maxing out, though

Torrent, North XL, or Meshify 3 XL?

>>105627374
I have open back headphones you brown favela monkey.

>>105627366
I didn't know we had women in this thread

>>105627306
It helps not a lot, you can gain much more by removing side panel.
The less fans the better.

>>105627402
ProArt PA602 Wood Edition with Metal Side Panel

>>105627402
>>105627433
random bits of wood attached to a metal computer case looks fucking stupid

Completed it on Intel Arc.
Pre TAA era games.
>>105627433
>>105627402
Looks like tasteless something.

>>105627404
Me too, but you don't see me crying about it. Again normal people aren't bothered by white noise, sorry about your condition.

Nvidia cant give you that.

>>105627433
Wood is too dark you couldn't even tell it was there if you didn't know to look for it it just blends in with the metal.

>>105627445
Well, it can be a bit annoying when the fans hit 2000rpm, but thankfully there are many ways to mitigate that.

>>105627443
Not as tasteless as fish tanks and RGB.

>>105627461
I just use wireless kb+m and put the case outside the room. Also cuts down on heat killing two birds with one stone.

>>105627471
>put the case outside the room
How long is your monitor cable kek

Is this the game's fault? driver issue? dx12 perhaps?

>>105627487
Desk sits right next to the door so it's not that long. Obviously this isn't ideal for most people.

What kind of build do I need for 1080p@360Hz (obviously native rendering only)?

>>105627496
Well, I just took the simpler route and turned down the fans. Alternatively if you want better cooling and far less noise you can just remove the stock fans and slap some 120s on there, of course that will probably void your warranty so you'd have to wait a little unless you don't care.

>>105627366
No idea but I like it because it says Stealth Mode on the packaging, means it's for secret agents

>>105627374
>people buy things specifically to make that noise it's a positive if anything
White pow... noise is actually harmful.
Brain can do:
1 anti-noise
2 anti-reverb
3 anti-echo (rare)
Example, if you move to other flat/room/house you will notice reverb of your voice, but after a week or two your brain will compensate reverb and you will not hear it anymore.

>>105627402
Left: Tacky Cyberspace
Middle: 1980s with 70s furniture
Right: Vegan 3d-modeller

>>105627495
>device removed
Must be a driver crash, check event viewer.

>>105627459
Yes, it's rather dark but I can see the wood structure when looking at it from my chair, the surfaces are not perfectly smooth, not just boring. If I wanted I could brighten up the wood with sandpaper and bleach but I didn't buy this case primarily for looks so I don't care enough to bother. I compared all cases that can house an ALF3 420 AIO and this one provides the best functionality. It's got supreme airflow AND complete dust filtering, it is easily movable thanks to two wheels in the rear and the very sturdy wood bars in top that allow to lift the whole case even when fully equipped. It's even possible to install 4 standard office chair castors in place of the rubber feet to maximize maneuverability.

>>105627645
Yeah but I remember you listing a bunch of downsides before and even saying it wasn't worth it.

>>105627263
>escapism and poverty good

>>105627655
It has some deficits (every other case has them) but of the kind I can tolerate or easily fix myself like putting some neoprene on the naked metal side panels or cutting some plastic studs so the top mesh cover fits perfectly on the fat ALF radiator. And I never said it wasn't worth it, rather the contrary. I'm very happy and would buy it again.

its been 2 days and my ASUS XG-C100C still hasn't shipped

>>105627765
Cruel world!

>>105627750
I don't see any without the glass panels, where did you get it?

>>105627765
Brother, my order from Thursday is still not shipped. I know that feel...
But.. TODAY FOR SURE!!

>>105627782
In Germany. Plenty offers here, lowest price was €218 in mid April:

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/205045813_-proart-pa602-wood-edition-metal-panel-asus.html

>>105627808
Ever ordered something from Dubaro? If so, you know how long they take to ship?

>>105626477
Sirs, AMD and Android are the very good value buys sars :)

>>105627831
Feels good to be an Android chad.

>>105627742
>escapism bad
>goes on 4chan
>"""I'm not poor"""
>spends his free time on 4chan

>>105627495
>DXGI Hung
Yep that's just the novideo drivers experience. See vid related >>105624753
9070 XT is the highest performance gpu besides 4090 on the old December drivers from last year you can get right now

>>105627495
>DXGI Hung
Yep that's just the novideo drivers experience. See vid related >>105624753
9070 XT is the highest performance gpu with working drivers besides 4090 on the old December drivers from last year you can get right now

>>105627822
> Dubaro recommends Windows 11
I wouldn't buy from people who do this.

>>105628010
I feel like it's time to move on from Windows 10. I don't like it but it is what it is...

>>105627831
ENGERLAND

>>105627495
what game?

>>105626831
Akiha is Team Red btw

>>105628089
all anime is team red
novideo = 3dpig loving faggot

>>105627404
>I have open back headphones
Use case?

>>105628046
Feels are no good counselor. Windows 10 is objectively better for the user's privacy and it's more responsive w/o the scripted UI of 11.

>>105628115
living in a single family home on your own but not being able to afford speakers?

>>105628105
AMD is completely useless for creating anime tho

>>105628105
amd anime looks like its stuck in 2005
nvidia wins again

>>105628118
Alright but I can't just stay on Windows 10 for next 50 years. At some point you have to move on

>>105628157
>amd anime looks like its stuck in 2005
kino

>>105628105
I'm an NVIDIA chad but I have to say this is really sovlful. Still won't buy your GPUs though.

Bros what do you think of 4060? I just need it for clip studio paint, After effects and other creative softwares. Maybe some games before 2020 or indie games if I play games at all.

>>105628322
its alright for a budget card. really efficient too

>>105628132
Creating ai anime slop is disrespectful to the artform and the waifus which is why anime micro devices purposely makes their cards bad at it you foolish baka nvidiot

>>105628322
maybe look at 16gb vram nvidia gpus

Is there anything that speaks against putting my current HDD inside my new setup as backup storage?

>>105628330
I want to but I'm really tight on budget. And I immediately need a card. Do you think 4060 won't serve my purposes well?

>>105628364
well theres 5060 thats better in every way

>>105628327
Will that card serve my purposes well?

>>105628322
Why would you consider a 4060 when the 7800 XT exists??? 555-COME-ON-NOW

>>105628372
rtx3060 will probably be better for you since it has 12gb of vram

Buying my first pc
, facebook seller selling all this for 350 could negotiate lower possibly
good deal? what should i be worried about

>>105628424
>what should i be worried about
getting mugged

the guy has a public profile and has a engineering degree, shouldnt be worried

>>105628424
that’s gonna be a quite low end pc

>>105628424
whats the use case and whats your annual disposable income

would it be better to build one instead ordering parts online?

>>105628424
>and runs most games at 120fps.
in 640x480 all low with upscaling kek

>>105628424
It's pretty garbage, so you'd certainly need to negotiate. And the monitor is fucking TN lmao.
Since it's used, I'd be concerned about the R5 3600 if it's an early batch - those like to kill themselves over time. Mine only died this year.

Probably not worth it.

Just got 5070ti. Am i retarded not to wait for 80 super?

>>105628507
it'll feel more impactful to upgrade to 6090 later so its fine

>>105628494
Got it ill just order pc parts and build one myself

I upgraded to a 9900x and I'm getting 58ºC at idle, which seems way too high. I was getting 40-45ºC with a 5950x. Anybody here with Ryzen 9000 that can confirm?

Corsair 4000D Airflow
3xArctic P12 front intake
1xArctic P14 rear exhaust
Arctic Freezer III 240 w/ 2xArctic P12 Max on top (push configuration)
Thermal Grizzly Duronaut

>>105628507
That shit is gonna be doubled the price of normal 5080 if 24gb vram rumor was true.

>>105628557
That's how my 9800x3d behaves on a 360mm aio too
Even load temps were pretty toasty until I installed thermal grizzly's am5 offset mounting bracket to position the cold plate over the ccd which dropped temps from a throttling 95C to 88C in cinebench r23

>>105628601
vram costs like 3€ per gb

>>105628602
What AIO are you using? Supposedly the Arctic Freezer III is offset by default for this very purpose, but I was not expecting things to be this toasty. I suspect bad contact or perhaps I applied the thermal paste wrong (that Duronaut shit is hard to spread) but the funny thing is that I don't even hit 80ºC running Prime95

>>105628636
Just look at 4090 prices right now, you think 4090 lite isn't gonna get scalped and inflated the prices to hell?

>>105628641
nzxt 360 elite rgb

3GB VRAM is going to data centers, if they release any Super 50x0's expect hella scalping

>>105624520 (OP)
been out of the loop recently, I kinda need to upgrade from my shitty 1060 because I'm starting to not being able to play games even at 1080p
rx 9070 xt hellhound for 700€, is it good? are there better alternatives for the same/less? not willing to spend more, already pushing it at 700€
i know it's overkill for 1080p, but I like not having to upgrade every 2 years, also maybe i'll buy a 1440p monitor

Someone should invent an adapter that lets you extend your GPU with your RAM

>>105628703
4090 and 5090 chads are eating good

>>105628515
>upgrade to 6090 later
That'll be $5k plus tip

>>105628713
are there any other 9070xt models available? and their price

>>105628713
What country

>>105628717
>Someone should invent an adapter that lets you extend your GPU with your RAM
It's called the PCIe slot to your system's memory.

>>105627029
>>105626447
>>105624646
sorry but i wont buy a black pcb

>>105628864
Then why does no one do that? Just get a cheap 8GB GPU and extend it with 32 GB RAM. Bam now you got 40GB VRAM

>>105625362
this

>>105628972
>Then why does no one do that?
The bandwidth of the RTX 5060 8GB's memory is 448GB/s. The bandwidth of a PCIe Gen 5x8 interface is 31.5GB/s. You might be able to see why this isn't really possible.

>>105624520 (OP)
MSI G274QPX, visible vignetting when browsing web or using excel, while gaming not noticable.

I am sitting 60cm from the monitor and if I move further away this effect minimizes.

Do I have a faulty panel and should I RMA or am I just sitting to close?

>>105629059
forgot image

>>105629059
>>105629072
I don't think it's faulty, just a shitty panel. Get an OLED.

>>105629080
Don't wanna spend extra money for a screen with worse longevity.

>>105629025
Alright I get it. I'm impressed you actually gave me a proper answer and didn't just call me a retard. Thanks explainon chad

>>105628818
asus prime, xfx switf and quicksilver, sapphire pulse for like 30/40€ more
other models are at least like 60€ more so no way lol
>>105628836
italy, it is what it is

>>105629072
The Desktop folder shortcut looks funny that way. It appears like you can see through it but you know there has to be something.

>>105628713
hellhound for 700 euros is okay

>>105629089
Well, enjoy your shitty panel then!

>>105629089
Based. OLED is a meme

>>105629158
0,03ms lag, perfect blacks are a meme?

>>105629089
Have you checked if you have any local dimming settings?

>>105624938
>Muh aesthetic
Get a normal Mobo and stop being retarded
Also
>1000W PSU
750W is enough

>>105624969
>>105625009
Wood is top tier aesthetics, but without any RGB (RBG alone tasteless), however with orange or white it's fine.

>>105629177
Yes.

>>105629236
No, it's not.

>>105629243
The coping soijak that is burnt into your monitor begs to differ

>>105629188
1000W is for futureproofing and longevity since you work it as hard as a 750W

>>105629284
>burn in
Now that's the real meme, you memester.
>can't afford OLED
>"b-but muh b-b-burn in!!!!"
Cope you faggot.

My secondary monitor is from 2018. My previous secondary was over 10 years old. OLED will never last this long.

>>105629178
I don't have, I fiddled with all the available settings and its present all the time.
Guess I'll have to bite the OLED bullet...

>>105629111
then that model is the best priced 9070xt for your region since hellhound is a midtier model

>>105588727
Retarded anon here
I ended up flashing the BIOS with a CH341a USB programmer and recovered the mobo
Did I redeem myself?
Can I join the big bois /pcbg/ club now?

Chilly

>>105628717
>extend your GPU with your RAM
That's what virtual memory does already.

>>105629441
Grats anon. Btw some mobos include dual BIOS, I'm not sure if yours does but mines does in case of BIOS fuckup. You can jumper from that spare by moving a plastic cover over some pins.

>>105629441
are you hax0rman

Feeling the urge to buy a 5090 like a retard.

>>105629524
nope no dual bios
not even a flashback
which is why i had to flash it with an USB programmer
it did have an unpopulated SPI right next to the chip but the programmer i ordered (cheapest one from aliexpress) came with a clip so i didn't be arse myself to solder the wires

>>105629564
no but it did feel like that and it impressed a bunch of tech nerd friends so at least it's something

>>105629612
Just do it. Next gen pricing will getting worse and worse as long as AI bubble exist, that is if Nvidia isn't outright quit gaming market altogether.

>>105628343
Bump. I just found out I have a third M.2 slot as well where I could put on my current SSD. I'm wondering if it will affect performance since they are pretty old and full already.

so uh... what if you soldered 3gb ram chips onto a 5060?

>>105629612
as long as you have a 4k qd oled monitor and local LLM's installed ready to go its fine

is the speed difference between Gen 3 NVME and gen 4 actually big?

i bought my current mobo before i was working and it only has a 3.0 slot, i'm currently on a crucial mx500 which works at the rated speeds for a little bit then massively drops off under load so i'm guessing the jump from that to a m.2 will feel big enough that i won't care about it being old gen, but not too sure.

>>105629676
i worded this wrongly, what i meant is, is the speed difference NOTICEABLE? if you were downloading 100GB, will the 4.0 download twice as fast?

>>105627158
Anyone?

>>105629653
Mustard gas.

>>105629717
*inhales*
God, my suffering is almost over...

>>105629653
Nvidia will personally come to your house and kill you.

Remedy games on shartwell equals a no go

>>105629685
you kinda need pcie5 these days

>>105624673
That guy uses Nvidia in his actual personal PC

>>105629072
My LG has same problem. Thats called bad uniformity on the monitor. LG has power saving feature on OLED panels with forced vignette wich you can disable.
Just sit back it helps.
Or you could try to buy Samsung based monitor. Or proffecional monitor NEC, Sharp? Fujitsu?
>>105629770
They all dramless? Jesus.

>>105629812
200gb slc cache seems to work fine

>>105629770
shit, well now i don't know what to do
the speeds i'm looking at for gen3 are pretty bad, but still seem a good upgrade over my mx500.

really regret getting this mobo

>>105629753
Jensen Nvidia can't catch me. I'm soldering 3GB GDDR7 onto my 9070XT.

>>105629830
Your GPU will be disabled remotely.
Its over.

>>105629770
People will post this chart but say I'm weird for buying enterprise SSDs

How do you clean blood from a black, leather jacket? Asking for a friend.

What's the expected RMA rate for monitors? I found something nice for pretty much half price at a misplaced cargo auction, it's brand new (sealed) but I'm scared it will be bad out of the box or something.

>>105629770
700 gigs in 50 seconds. not bad.
i never follow storage news because i don't work with video files or any large files for that matter but interesting stuff when you do the math once a blue moon

Are rear-connect MOBOs just a meme or will they become the norm?

>>105629825
should i go for this? will only work at gen 3 speeds ofc, but whenever I upgrade my mobo it'll become more useful then. seems like a decent drive, TLC but no DRAM.

price isn't a factor here as it's on sale and is around the same price of other m.2s.

>>105629952
I guess its cool but case variety is an issue

>>105624520 (OP)
My PC crashes while playing seemingly random games. I've reinstalled my drivers, adjusted the power settings, nothing's worked. It's been doing this since I first built it, please help me I'm retarded. My main guess has been it's a problem with the GPU, because I've seen a bunch of complaints about it online, but don't wanna upgrade unless I really have to because poorfag. Also seen some people say it might be a PSU issue, but I dunno.

>Ryzen 5 3600 CPU
>ASRock B550M Steel Legend Motherboard
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB and 32 GB RAM (2 each)
>1TB SSD
>Sapphire Radeon RX6700 GPU
>Thermaltake Toughpower GX1 Gold 700W PSU
>Win10 LTSC
>MSI Optix G241VE2 FHD 75Hz FreeSync IPS 24in Monitor (x2)

>>105629952
meme

>>105629969
ID get 990 pro 2tb

>>105629975
>>Ryzen 5 3600 CPU
See >>105628494
Possibly, I couldn't know for sure. Even more likely if those "random games" happen to be mostly unity games.

>>105629975
>>105629990
Oh wait I'm tarded, a full system crash? That doesn't sound familiar.
Well, make sure nothing is overheating first of all. I take it there isn't a game you can consistently reproduce it in? That'd help.

>>105629894
I bought returned monitor with a discount, it was totally ok.
I personally returned new monitor cuz dead 1 pixel. So im just guessing it will have bad pixels.

>>105629986
to be honest i dont really feel like i need 2TB, i already have a fair amount of storage already and the 2TB is pretty much twice the price.

but the 1TB 990 pro is only a little bit more expensive than the evo plus, so i might actually get that one, thanks for suggesting it

>>105629975
update mobo bios
dont mix ram? Lmao. disable expo xpm which will happen with bios update automatically
run an ssd test
update gpu driver
replug the cables in psu to mobo if other stuff doesnt work, re insert parts. repaste cpu and ensure the cooler is installed ok
update to win11
buy a 500hz qd oled monitor

>>105630030
>buy a 500hz qd oled monitor
this solved it thanks

1khz monitors fucking when?

>>105629990
>>105630005
Yeah, full system crash, and the bluescreen message is completely different every time, so those are even less help than usual. The recent games I've played that consistently crash it that come to mind are Deltarune (but not the demo version for some reason), Shadowman Remastered, Warcraft 3 (pre-Reforged version), Minecraft, and Cobalt Core, they all consistently crash AT SOME POINT, but the point they do is random each time, not when any one specific thing is happening so I dunno.
>>105630030
The 32GB ram set is new, cause I thought it might have theoretically been the issue, it's not the problem.
I've updated the drivers like 500 times, uninstalled, reinstalled, everything's up to date, and it was a problem when I first built it and first installed the drivers for the very first time.
I already tried repasting the CPU, that didn't help either.
Also there's no fucking way I'm downgrading to Win11 until I'm forced to, that's why I got LTSC in the first place.
I'll give the other suggestions a try though.

>>105630058
samsung releases incrementally better monitors each year and you have to wait a while. Obviously oled pixels can change in 0.1 ms but they have some economies of scale to consider for the parts that push the signals.
some chink company showcased a 1khz tn monitor in some show but its not commercially available

>>105624753
>DURR WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT
Just use old drivers then holy shit, it takes 2 minutes.

>>105630065
>Yeah, full system crash, and the bluescreen message is completely different every time
On second second thought, that does sound familiar. It's just that I was getting more crashes than BSODs at first, but by the end it did bluescreen a lot. Might be the CPU after all, try Prime95 torture.

>>105628424
>Buying my first pc
don't
you need to crunch a lot of numbers for used parts.
first you need to establish a base line with current hardware and their prices, then look for benchmarks from the old hardware, cross-reference all the shit, do price/performance. all this for hardware you no longer have any warranty on
in other words, might as well buy new low-end. unless you only buy a GPU one gen old and the price is indeed worth it and even then it's a risk, dealing with used parts is only worth it if you're reselling parts or selling used pre-builts

>>105630058
>https://www.techradar.com/computing/monitors/a-750hz-gaming-monitor-has-come-out-of-nowhere-at-ces-2025-but-im-getting-a-bit-sick-of-this-refresh-rate-one-upmanship

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1LLlEEJ6us
KOORUI to Unveil the World's First Monitor with a 750Hz Refresh Rate at CES 2025 - YouTube

>>105630081
It doesn't work on the older driver and the game literally tells you update even when you launch it. Stop sucking off a trillion dollar corporation cuck. Doom the Nshartia ages is an Nvidia sponsored game and broken on novideo gpus, hilarious

>>105630079
>>105630095
and for fucking what do you need 1khz

>>105630112
image clarity obv

>>105629760
I'm calling it now
The crashes will constantly happen over the next 5 years because lackwell has buggy silicon

>>105630114
motion* clarity

>>105630120
and what game, 3D application pushes 1000 FPS?

>>105630122
cs1.6

>>105630112
They are total garbage at whatever esports slop they play and don't benefit from anything over 240 or even 165hz but they wanna larp they are a pro player. Ultra high refresh rate monitors are for larping wannabes simple as that.
FACT: You will NEVER be a famous esports player
FACT: You will NEVER compete in a tournament for real money
FACT: The games you play are TRASH and you should feel bad

>>105630122
runescape will look smoother than it has ever looked before

>>105630122
they largely rely on frame gen

How many fps does the human eye usually take in?

>>105630125
>FACT: You will NEVER be a famous esports player
How do you know I'm not one right now?
>FACT: You will NEVER compete in a tournament for real money
I won 50€ on a local LAN.
>FACT: The games you play are TRASH and you should feel bad
sheeeet

>>105629628
That's a nasty ass pcie slot

>>105630201
>>105630201
>>105630201

>build a new system
>old system sounds noticeably better on the same set of speakers
I am assuming it’s because the older system I paid like $300 for the mobo alone. The top of the line ROG Strix or whatever it’s called, while the new system only has a Gigabyte entry motherboard.

g-guys…
>>105630305

>>105630305
i had to install PEACE + APO gui to set up an equalizer to make my new cheap mobo sound better

Not pc but are dell laptop's station trackable or will I get tracked if I steal one at work?
t. brown

>>105630082
Been running it since then, dunno if I'm just supposed to let it keep going until it decides to stop, or if I should stop it myself. Currently up to 1440K if that means anything.

>>105626467
Froggy is so stunningly retarded that I sometimes struggle to click away. Awful creature.