Thread 105630201

New game, more shartwell driver issues. RDNA 4 KINGS enjoying life and LMAOing at nvidiots 24/7
Same old same old

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/DYQCcJwH

Previous: >>105624520

I'm about to buy a AOC AGON AG276QZD2 for 457€. My goal is to have a small upgrade over my VG248QE.

I don't want a better OLED right now because I don't want to put too much money in something that won't last 10 years intact like my TN panel pretty much did. Ideally, this AGON monitor should become a problem only when OLED has become a stable technology were monitors can last 10 years on severe usage conditions.

My only concern is that weird auto brightness feature as I plan to do some color work sometimes, developing games.

Any inputs welcome, should I do it? Am I missing something important?

Boy I sure wouldn't want my shiny new 5060 to only be able to play on low settings when those filthy 3060 users can get better image quality.

>>105630249
>because I don't want to put too much money in something that won't last 10 years
Stopped reading there, maybe don't believe every shit you read on the internet, especially on 4chinz.

>>105630263
What do you mean?

>>105630254
5060 ti 8GB costs more than 9060 XT but doesn't have enough vram to run modern games at modern resolutions wtf is ngreedia even thinking?! I know the point of this card and the 5060 is mainly to go in prebuilts to scam retards that don't know anything about computers but what about the retail stock? Any DIY pc builder that does even just one google search will know about this and any 5060 ti 8gb or 5060 in microcenter is just gonna rot on the shelves and be dead inventory since you'd have to be mentally stunted to consider either of these over the 9060 XT 16GB

>>105630271
Do you seriously believe that the burn-in meme is real? You think that manufacturers give away products that will last for a few years and you need to buy another top-tier monitor because of image retention? These OLEDs come with protection, pixel clearing tech, and unless you run them 24/7 on 100% brightness on a white screen with still images, nothing on Earth will happen to them. These are made to display fucking content. If you are that paranoid and believe every bullshit, get one with a built in fan.

My new Monitor just came in bros!! Now I only have to wait for my PC... The suffering continues

>>105630285
>posts known AMD shill

>>105630293
Not him but yeah, I believe it. My TV has channel logos and shopping channel information panels from burnt in everywhere. It is definitely a real problem.

>>105630293
>You think that profit seeking companies would sell something with planned obsolescence so you have to buy another expensive product from them in the future? What a schizo!!!
NTA but ur a fucking retard.

>>105630333
That's a TV, not a monitor. Not the same thing. Not the same refresh rate, not the same OLED panel, not the same power consumption and heat generation.

>>105630201 (OP)
can someone explain monitor resolution and viewing distance please. At what distance does 4k become noticeable I keep reading about 24-30inches for 4k on a 27-32 inch monitor. Is this accurate?

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fsr4-modded-onto-rx-7000-series-better-image-quality-lower-fps

>85FPS to 56FPS massive performance drop

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

Reminder the industry is incestuous
Lisa and jensen are related
>Arc B580, actually 290$ GPU
>The best card is made by shittel

>>105630321
>ITS NOT REAL!!!! AMDMARKS!!!! ITS LE FAKE!!!! ALL THE TECHTUBERS ARE SHILLLSS!!!! FUCK I NEED MY DILATOR NOW!!!!!!
Another Nviditroon on their boy period denying reality lol

>>105630293
I don't know about any memes, but I know about user feedback and vendors/youtubers tests. They're minimal to invasive.

With the usage I plan on doing with my product, I will most likely obtain burns faster than you, because you sound like someone taking great care of its products.

Do you mean burn ins are an invention of some sort and planned obsolescence is not real?

Want gigantic amounts of storage
>NAS
>Change the current 1 tb drives to 4-8TB drives
>Write crude imitations of the anime scenes on paper
Which option is the best anons?

>>105630354
https://www.ultraselective.com/blog/optimal-viewing-distance

>>105630371
>>The best card is made by shittel
Nice budget gpu that doesn't work in budget systems because arc drivers are still ass. Best gpu for the money under 500 dollars is 9060 XT 16GB. Sorry intard but AMD is raping shintel in not just the cpu market but now graphics cards because craptel still has an insane ego and won't just give up and declare bankruptcy already.

>>105630387
Cool now post CRTs

>>105630354
Who gives a shit?
More pixels = better. Simple as.

>>105630254
So does this mean that it would be idiotic to buy a CPU with less than 12 cores now?

>>105630374
I believe burn-ins are real, but not from the average usage. People like to claim OLED = BURN-IN PLEASE AVOID, however burn in only occurs when it's used in extreme conditions, like +40C heat, no air flow, highest possible brightness on the highest refresh rate and lots of white screen. What do you do? You use dark theme (you use it anyway, because white theme burns you eyes out), dimm the monitor to a comfy brightness. When you game or watch a movie you set it high for HDR and stuff, enjoy the content, then switch back to normal usage. These monitors have built in profiles you can customize for each use. If you are not a complete retard and know that these monitors MIGHT BE more sensitive to these things, then you'll take a bit more care.

>>105630369
No wonder they didn't release it to older GPUs like NVIDIA gods did with DLSS4.

>>105630401
I was about to say that was ridiculously wrong since they are double the price of the B580 but shit, you're right.
>16 Gb is exactly 505$
While the b580 is 270$
Not because these cards are cheap though, but because
> the listings haven't changed for some time and dollar has risen in value compared to the shitty local currency
>By waiting a month, the card has gotten 20$ cheaper

>>105630411
No as that is something else entirely and the two are not comparable.

>>105630419
That's why I only use VA, great colours, great blacks, no burn-ins
>inb4 muh ghosting
Literally nonexistent at 144Hz or above

>>105630419
But its 40+C in the apartment room
>Old world city
>Kissing apartments

My turd world poorfag PC, assembled in 2021

>>105630387
My eyes are at 72cm for a good vision on a 24" 1080p. Might be myopia. I mean I can see farther but depending on the usage it's between 72 and 90+ cm.

im thinking about getting a new ssd, 480-500gb range; my options are bx500 crucial, su650 adata, WD green/blue and san disk plus.

doing my search i was able to find that they are all dram-less and have a slc cache but the nand information is very shady alongside endurance, for instance, the bx500 is qlc and have a low endurance of 120TBW on 500gb which is a good compass to the others and the su650 on 240gb is tlc but no idea about the 480gb version, any suggestions?

>>105630500
what case, i desperately need a case with proper drive mounts instead of shit ass drive cages right next to the psu

>>105630500
>single channel ram

>>105630419
Well I plan on using my OLED without taking so much care of it, so it's good I'm preparing for burn-ins mentally. I will surely take a little care at the beginning, trying to implement new habits, but at some point there's too much shit in life to take care of. I don't need to baby sit my screen also.

>>105630517
That pic is old, I later got dual channel RAM sticks (8x2 GB) , it was G.skill I think
>>105630500
I honestly don't remember, it's nothing special, a generic case.

>>105630510
see this >>105630558

>>105630346
If you truly believe these OLEDs are planned obsolescence then make them pay.
Geek Squad protection last 4 years, make the shit burn and and Its a full refund.

You won't tho because its not really about planned obsolescence to you tards.
You're just pissy no one is talking about IPS garbo anymore.

Reminder. AMD GPU + AMD CPU combo equals unmatched performance and frametime stability in cpu limited scenarios. Smooth as butter. Meanwhile novideo software driver overhead steals some of your cpu performance in DX12 and vulkan which all modern games use. If you are you on an older am4 system you'd be a moron to consider blackwell over rdna 4 for this reason alone not to mention the many others such as worse driver stability.

So i removed the battery now computer doesn't boot up as quickly and chesum, cs... Message is displayed. Any ways to directly reach the boot and or delete that message

>>105630472
It will exist when looking at small light sources against blacks, ie looking at space. But that's the sole downside.

>>105630591
put it back

>>105630419
it will have burn ins if stays static for too long, lets say a icon tray that everyone uses for example, it will burn in these places noticeble only if you go full screen.

>>105630592
Tested it right now, no ghosting, modern VA panels are just too good as long as the response time is low enough.

It has gotten fat. Pc is running fine

>>105630586
>add 19 percent over 9
>still lose because DLSS exists

>>105630500
cool psu
>>105630510
i want to get ride of my glass meme case too, but no good options.

>>105630347
I don't know about that. All I know is: TV is OLED ==> TV has burn-in problems ==> OLED bad. Shrimple as.

>>105630500
what specs?

>>105630633
based simple mind

>>105630586
shut up gaymer, amd is based because it is friendly to linux and not because you gay ass meme benchmarks.

>>105630586
Clearest proof I've found of the novideo driver bottleneck. 5090 is much faster than the 9070 XT but shits itself and craps out well behind purely due to the driver overhead.>>105630586

>>105630633
oled is only great on phones/tablets.
>>105630611
what va has over ips? most vas on amazon seem super cheap.

>>105630636
i5 10th gen CPU
GTX 1650 DDR6
16 GB RAM
1TB WD HDD
256 GB SATA SSD
500 GB WD NVMe SSD
PSU is DeepCool 550D

>>105630618
>Mods FSR4 effortlessly into all your nvidia sponsored games with a simple tool in under 5 minutes and plays with full rt enabled
Sowwy!!!

>>105630666
>what va has over ips
Better contrast and blacks, reportedly ips has better colour accuracy although I can't confirm any of these claims from personal experience because I've never had an ips monitor.
>most vas on amazon seem super cheap.
What do you define as "cheap", old office VA monitors are less than 100 dollars, but despite their beautiful quality they have lower response times and in turn more ghosting, I paid 450 euros for my 4k144Hz one and compared to my old monitor there is pretty much no ghosting whatsoever. Of course brands and monitors may vary, so it's better to read reviews before you make a decision, or make sure that you can return it if you don't like it.

I'm looking to buy a pcie wifi card, since my motherboard doesn't have it build in. Am I right that the only thing I really should be looking out for is that it has the intel AX210? After a while all of these parts are starting to look the same to me.

>>105630408
>this art is not AI generated
Sounds like something an AI that generated the art would say.

>>105630082
Been running it since then, dunno if I'm just supposed to let it keep going until it decides to stop, or if I should stop it myself. Currently up to 1440K if that means anything, I'm new to this.

>>105630727
You can tell it's not AI because it looks like shit

>>105630369
Should have compared it to native while at it.

>fake frames and upscaled image
Gaming. 2025.

>>105630724
Just get an adapter man, or use an Ethernet if you have an internet connection.
The pcie card isn't much better than the adapter, I have both, and I ended up settling for the ethernet.
I had bought tp link adapter and pcie card btw, you can see the antenna here >>105630500, the card is beneath the GPU

>>105630736
Try Large FFTs, close everything else first or it might soft-freeze the system. If it doesn't throw errors within 2 minutes it's probably fine.

What's the consensus for this monitor (MSI's MAG specifically)? Ordering this as my first 1440p monitor.

I'm about to get the Palit RTX 5080 GamingPro V1.
How fucked am I?

>>105630816
Why not just save a little bit and get a 90 instead

>>105630816
do u even need it

>>105630788
Okay, well, it was fine while running the test, but then basically right after I stopped it, THEN it gave me a bluescreen
>Kernel Auto Boost Invalid Lock Release
If it's relevant. I'll give that a go to see if it does anything to make sure though.

>>105630816
Pretty bad since you're buying a literal scam rugpull fake "80 class" card that loses to oc 9070 XT and will be replaced by a the real 5080 super later this year.

>>105630816
pretty much fucked

>>105630825
Because I couldn't really justify paying 2500+€ just for one component. But yeah, now I feel like I could have just saved one more month. Well, I can just replace it at some point. Already ordered btw
>>105630825
Yeah, my old setup sucked ass
>>105630849
I can also just replace it with a super or 5090 then

>>105630877
>Because I couldn't really justify paying 2500+€ just for one component
True, but you probably won't have to ever buy another one after that, plus if you buy an 80 now but think about buying a 90 later it will cost you more

>>105630788
>>105630831
Tried it a couple of times, and the fifth core gave an error both times, so dunno what that's about

>>105630831
Never seen that one. But if it's the first time you see it too, it probably doesn't mean shit.
See if there's anything of interest in event viewer.
Also, do I understand it right that >>105630065
>and it was a problem when I first built it and first installed the drivers for the very first time
you've already had this issue before and it went away? Or did you mean something else?

Just bought the first components of my new build, a five pack of ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM for €21,91, lowest I've seen here in euroland all year. I'm in no rush and plan to buy the rest over the next half year and only buy when parts are discounted so I get that autistic satisfaction of not overpaying. I'll post the result when I'm done. See you in 6 months.

>>105630914
Initially, it had a problem where it'd crash randomly once a day just on its own, but then I think I changed a power setting or something, and it mostly stopped doing that, though it still rarely crashes in the morning betwween me turning it on and actually getting to using it. But the crashing during games issue has been a constant this whole time, that I've been dealing with by just playing games that don't crash it, but that's not fixing the problem obviously.

>>105630909
Yeah so it's probably fucked. If you can get any of the other cores to fail it should confirm it. After the first failure it seems like other cores are less likely to fail, so it might be easier to get there by restarting the test rather than testing longer.

>>105630895
It will cost me more but I already ordered and it's on its way AND I'm an impatient retard, as you can deduce from not just saving for a bit more, so I don't want to return it.
I don't know how good the used GPU market is but if I "only" lose like 20-25% of what I paid for it, I guess it's fine.

>>105630909
consistently failing on one core indicates that that core has gone bad
not unusual with ryzen 3000 as I've seen a lot of people reporting failed 3600 and 3700x's over the years

>>105630952
Strange. How old is the CPU? And did you buy it new?

>>105630849
>will be replaced by a the real 5080 super later this year
It will getting scalp to like $2k with that amount vram. Butb 5080 is still a shit choice despite all of that.

>>105630772
I'm sorry, what do you mean with adapter exactly? One of those USB ones? It's probably my ESL ass not understanding here.
Ethernet unfortunately isn't an option due to where the modem is and the layout of the place.

>>105630955
First two times I ran Large FFTs it got the error right away, but now it's not given the error yet, weird.

>>105630975
>>105630976
I bought it new for sure, would have been 2023, around February or so.

Smallest FFTs should be used for determining CPU. Large hits RAM.

>>105630194
what's wrong with my pcie slot

>>105631021
>>105631041
Gave this error while running Smallest FFTs, and then when I tried it a second time it crashed, so definitely looks like there's a problem with the fifth core.

>>105631101
You could try giving the 5th core a slight positive offset with curve optimizer if your board supports it. But even if that helps you should really get it replaced.

>>105631101
your 5th core is majorly fucked if its erroring out on largeFFTs which isn't even that heavy on the core

>>105631041
It hits the mem controller which may be fucked.

>>105631123
>>105631124
I was already prepared to replace the GPU if I had to so getting a new CPU is an improvement really. Any specific suggestions for what I should go for, or should I just check out the ones in the OP and go from there?

>>105630849
>He thinks 5080 super price isn't gonna exceed 5080 current price

>>105631131
Ah, yeah, if I have to fuck around with the motherboard that could be a hassle. Still, this is more of a step in the right direction than I've had so far, so hopefully we're on the right track

>>105631150
Feel free to ignore the OP at all times, it's a shitpost more often than not.
Besides, it wouldn't help you unless you feel like upgrading the mobo+RAM, because you're on AM4. There's probably no point in getting anything more than a 5700 or even 5600 with your GPU which I take it you won't be replacing any time soon, though you might want a second opinion because I'm Dunning-Kruger.
>>105631167
Nothing to do with the mobo, that's also on the CPU.

>>105631204
Ah right right, I should have known, thanks. If I don't NEED to replace the GPU then yeah, I'm definitely not in any rush to, if it's not the problem then it works totally fine for me. I'll do some research and figure out what looks good, keeping those suggestions in mind. Also wasn't sure, like I said I'm kinda retarded when it comes to tech stuff so wasn't entirely sure where the memory controller was. Really appreciate all the help, hope it all ends up working out

>>105630354
use a PPD calculator, don't listen to the dumb fags who responded to you

https://phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDensityCalculator.html

you want 60PPD or higher, basically.

>>105630249
Read these if you haven't already for user settings/performance expectations/etc.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/agon-pro-ag276qzd2
But generally you're missing nothing. The Auto Brightness Limiter should be part of the built-in OLED Care Options which you can temporarily disable during work. One thing going directly to an OLED straight from a 1080p TN panel will NOT be a small upgrade especially for viewing angles/panel uniformity/contrast. You'll basically never want to go back to your LCD again after a week using it, so enjoy Anon.

>>105631244
also TL;DR you aren't getting that without going to 4K. 1440p can almost get there though, like 55ppd and it's probably good enough relative to monitor cost/GPU required to drive it et cetera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcQmfYO7ies
>500Hz QD-OLED capable of ~300 nits fullscreen brighness
^Halfway to the Blurbuster's Promised Land and 720Hz soon too:
https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/

I have a 3080 10gb atm and was thinking of upgrading to a 9070 XT but is it really worth it? I have a 9950x3d and was wondering if SAM with the 9950x3d and 9070 XT was good or if the upgrade even has a point, hopefully some smart anon can tell me. ty in advance c:

>>105631327
funny how these UFO images always magically become blurry when a new monitor is released

>>105631359
Sounds like user error to me

>>105631359
Nothing magical about it, if you look in the upper right-hand corner you'll see he set the scrolling speed to 1920 px/s which is harder for sample-and-hold displays to keep up with and helps demonstrate the advantages of the new monitor. The test on Blurbusters site scales from 120 to 7680 px/s:
https://www.testufo.com/

If you had a CRT it would look crystal clear at any speed.

>>105630958
>I don't know how good the used GPU market is
Nobody is going to sell their 5090 bro

>>105631497
Nah that's not what I meant. When I get a 5090 I would try to sell my 5080.

>>105631462
>doesn't even go above 60fps
Wow, so it's bullshit designed to intentionally cause blurry images

>>105631511
Oh, I see, I'm sure someone will buy it, but by that time the 90 could already be out of stock

>>105631520
>anon reveals they only have a 60hz screen

>>105631520
The site uses your browser's info to detect and sync the framerate to the native refresh rate of your monitor. If you had a mythical 1Khz display it would render 1000 fps.

>she deleted
tee hee

>>105631543
Um..sweaty...
[spoiler]turns out that winblows had reverted it to 60Hz for some reason, whoops[/spoiler]

>>105631524
By the time that 5090 is out of stock, 6000 series would have been already released.

>>105631612
There won't be a 6000 series, Nvidia is done with Geforce and gamers, it's only datacenters and workstation cards from hereon

>>105631626
6000 series is the new node tho...

>>105631581
Kek I had that happen as well once. Was wondering why my PC's performance suddenly worsened so much and then at some point I randomly saw that it was turned down to 60hz. Not sure how long I kept up with it lmao

How viable is a 9950X CPU and a RX 9070 XT for BOTH video/3D rendering (after effects, blender) and higher-end gaming? Is an X3D mandatory, or is it passable?

I don't need ray-tracing or anything crazy like that since most of the games I play are pretty low-end, but I would at least like to be able to do 4k.

I'm currently still gaming on a 1080 Ti and a 3.0 Ghz Ryzen 7 1700 (Don't know if it's X3D or not), that combo can run Doom Eternal at 60fps, medium settings, at 1080p. If I can at least match that (but in 4k), I'm happy.

>>105631656
X3D is just for minmaxing lows or getting the most out of certain types of games like civ.

>>105631656
radeon gpus are only good for gaming. nvidia is still the goto option for video/3D rendering but you'll probably want to get one of the older 4070ti super or 4080 (super) gpus since they have much stabler drivers than rtx5000

>>105631656
the 9800x3d is, in the absolute best case scenario(720p), 15% faster than the 9950x in games according to: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/17.html

drops to 11% at 1080p: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/18.html

then 7.5% at 1440p: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html

and only 2% at 2160p: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/20.html

and all of that is with a 4090 which will smoke a 9070xt.

but it's all at max settings too, and no upscaling or framegen. basically worst case scenarios that most people aren't doing.

they also show minimums for 1080p and 2160p: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/21.html

and that reveals a 13.9% improvement at 1080p for the 98X3D, and 2.5% improvement at 2160p, in the 1% lows with a 4090 and max settings no upscaling/framegen, in newer games.

>>105631728
So a 9950X is very much still viable if you have a 4090, good to know
[spoiler]I want a 4090 but I'm already going a bit over-budget and don't want to add another $1,000 to it[/spoiler]

>>105631728
>>105631656
Yeah gaming CPU performance is supremely overblown.

Vast majority of the people buying X3D CPUs aren't really doing it because they will realize its performance, but because its much easier to buy the best gaming CPU than it is a GPU and people like feeling that they have the best of something.

>>105631841
yeah, people are wasting money on the x3d when they could put that money into their monitor/GPU. higher resolution = CPU matters less

>>105631263
I hope you're saying true. Last VA panel I tried was amazing on static pictures, but for gaming it was a shame. OLED should be more potent.

Cheers.

They see me buildin'
They hatin'

>>105631864
sounds like people should have just stick to am4 and their 200$ x3d, all the benefits of higher 1% lows at a fraction of the price

>>105632033
I need a zen 6 x3d for brute force purposes.

>>105632033
x3d will also do better in some older games which are single-core, or just generally running on outdated poorly optimized engine (good example - many MMOs, like WoW). so it also depends on what you actually play

How do we feel about Intel GPUs?

>>105632033
well anybody who has a am4 x3d chip probably isn't upgrading. for normal people there are still benefits to upgrading. i looked at stuff comparing 5600x to 9600x for example, and the frametime graph is really stuttery and bad on the 5600x, so it seems like a more stable experience. IDK

if you go all in on 4K, CPU doesn't really matter. your FPS will be so low that 1% lows or w/e become irrelevent. a 5600x is 7fps slower than a 9800x3d. it's pretty pointless to talk about. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/21.html

you always have this >>105632059 though. random wildcards like factorio really like a huge cache

What's the difference between monitor scaling and GPU scaling? Also why do some monitors supposedly support "integer scaling" while others do not, isn't doubling pixels (for example, displaying a 1080p image on a 2160p monitor) easy as fuck to do? What would a monitor not supporting integer scaling do wrong in this case?

>>105632114
Unobtanium for the most part and need a beefier cpu than you'd expect. If intel actually bothered to make an effort in sustaining consumer level cards they would be decent.

>>105632134
not understand what you're really talking about but

windows/linux are designed for 96ppi. so for example if you wanted a perfect hi-DPI experience, you'd want a 192ppi monitor

the following gets you as close as you can get to what software is designed for:

23.8" 1080p: 93ppi

32" 1440p: 93ppi

48" 2160p: 93ppi

there is no viable 2x integer scaled monitor available. 23.8" 2160p would have been it, but there's like $300 LG ud58p or something and it's just a 60hz IPS and probably aren't made anymore.

because windows uses vector scaling or w/e, this stuff isn't that big of a deal and you can probably use fractional scaling and not have much of a problem and therefore the best experience you can readily get currently is a 27" 2160p at 163ppi, so you'd have to use fractional scaling and cross your fingers there are no problems.

https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-ruby-gaming-desktop-amd-radeon-rx-9060-xt-amd-ryzen-5-9600x-32gb-ddr5-1tb-nvme-ssd-black/p/N82E16883360843?Item=N82E16883360843
>CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X 6-Core
>GPU: Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB
>Motherboard: GIGABYTE B650M C V3 (rev. 1.0)
>RAM: Team T-Force Delta RGB 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 6000
>SSD: Kingston SNV3S M.2 2280 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe
>CPU Cooler: Thermaltake 95W Gravity A2 CPU Cooler
>PSU: ATX2.0 650W 80+ Gold
>Case: ABS Cyclone mATX Gaming Case - Obsidian Black

How is this as far as prebuilts within a $1250 budget go? Assuming building one isn't an option. Not listing the PSU brand is suspicious but I assume that's usual for prebuilts.

>>105631728
>then 7.5% at 1440p
>and only 2% at 2160p:
-.-
>>105631864
you will get bottlenecked sooner.
unlike VRAM, lower CPU performance is a thing.
if it's your first PC, min/maxing CPU/GPU fps bottleneck for overall or 4k even including monitor hz makes sense, otherwise just ball out

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mE4YEm2L-g&t=148
Best Gaming CPUs: Update Late 2024 [28 CPUs, 14 Games] -- Hardware Unboxed 1.12M subscribers 221,631 views Dec 18, 2024

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3FIXQwMOA4
CPU Reviews, How Gamers Are Getting It Wrong (Short Version) -- Hardware Unboxed 1.12M subscribers 161,295 views Nov 17, 2024

>>105632247
cpu cooler is pretty lame

they're probably cuttng corners on PSU, RAM CL is probably like 40 or something retarded, that SSD is probably ass but it's a gen 4 so maybe it's fine but it's also only 1TB which isnt enough anymore. case is probably whatever not winning any awards but does the job i assume.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vNshLc is better for less money, just so you know what you'd get for building instead, with same CPU/GPU

>>105632265
>you will get bottlenecked sooner.
Spare it
The tards shilling X3Ds are just going to throw it away for the next one anyway.

>>105630201 (OP)
What the fuck these retards are talking about? Control what? Wtf is FBC?

>>105632265
that video literally shows that it doesn't matter at 4k lol

I tried doing some undervolting today with the 5080, and im incredibly confused as to how i can run 3050 clock overclock at 0.985 volts stable. This dropped my load temp a good 8-9c.

>>105632301
They are talking about games.

I want to undervolt my GPU but I'm scared to use msi ab. Is there a safer option? Mayhaps asus tweak iii?

>>105632290
>The tards shilling X3Ds
if the price/perf is there at the time of purchase, i will buy anything
if x3d is twice as much as the next best thing, i will buy the next best thing

I bought 9800 X3D because I thought it sounded cool

>>105632322
what I meant was: you pick your 4k game or do an average of select titles, figure out the max fps; buy a CPU for that amount of fps. ie min/maxing

>>105632281
Unfortunately it's for someone else who lives nowhere near me, so I can't build it for them and they don't want to build. I'm content if I can just find them something that isn't a total ripoff and won't explode.

>>105632353
the other option is to just set a power limit with nvidia-smi

>>105632322
ok on second thought maybe i misunderstood. they have shown examples where 4k/performance will matter in future by showing older games

>>105632353
Undervolting can't cause any damage - worst case is it just crashes. AMD offers an auto-undervolt feature in their driver (on windows at least) which picks a fairly safe undervolt, though you can squeeze more if you hand tune. I don't know if such a feature exists for nvidia so assuming no for the moment you just do it the old school way - drop the voltage a little (say -10mv), run a stress test and see if it crashes. Keep going down in steps until it does crash and revert to last stable setting and done.

>>105632399
prebuilts are pretty gay. like software bloat, corner cutting on important parts like PSU. they're very YMMV

>>105632403
I would not advise that as the lower power limit will actively affect in a negative manner the boost clockspeeds.

>>105632404
did you just samefag me in order to pretend people agree with your post >>105632265? lol. what the fuck? there's no difference at 4k.

>>105632323
nvidia gpus clock stretch hard when undervolting

>>105632323
nvidias clock is fake just like their temps are fake.

it reports target clock rather than effective clock. like how they only show edge temp instead of hotspot.

>>105632410
I'm aware, I don't really have an alternative to suggest to him though. I don't even think he lives near a decent PC store worth just taking parts to and having them build.

>>105632419
yeah but the alternative is afterburner

I heard WD and Sandisk split. Who will have the SSD division?

>>105632353
don't use undervolt, adjust power limit

>>105632353
What's the problem with Afterburner? I have been using it for years with out any issue.

>>105632476
WD is now only HDDs with SanDisk being SSD.

>>105631864
What if my main vidya is Paradox slop and Dwarf Fortress though?

>>105632566
Never play DF, but paradoxslops don't need x3d even with 100 of mods.

Finally, my PC shipped bros. It's set out to come on Friday. I'm hyped

>>105632566
i think paradox games use multi-threading so actually a 9950x would be better than the x3d, maybe? i really don't know. maybe there's a benchmark somewhere

>>105632580
Paradox slop needs all the CPU performance you can get because those niggas have never heard of the arcane art of optimization.
Nobody will be able to run EU5.

>>105632588
>prebuilt
Oh no no no no no bro what are you doing?

>>105632534
I'm scared to fuck my shit up

>>105632629
It's a "pick your build and configure to your liking" kind of site. They had all parts that I wanted to pick and it only cost about 150 bucks more than if I'd bought all components and build it myself. For that price, why should I bother?

>>105632590
found some stuff from redditors

98x3d faster than 7500f, 23% on average: https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/1izu7de/benchmarking_paradox_games_with_the_ryzen_7/

98x3d faster than 9950x in Stellaris, but other people comment that the newer games like CK3 use multi-threading so IDK: https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/1goaym8/seems_like_the_9800xd_cpu_is_the_best_one_to_play/

they link to this: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/ck3-dev-diary-36-gotta-go-fast.1408620/

which is some dev for paradox talking about how CK3 performance is better with multi-threading and video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsMcG6aRr24

and here's something for Cities Skylines 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines2/comments/1iiogys/a_chinese_cpu_benchmark_on_cities_skylines_ii/?share_id=DRc0RHmorupDnYnoII2It

seems to show that 7950x/9950x are better than a 7800x3d, so cores > cache

>>105632643
the worst thing that can happen when undervolting is a crash, nothing persistent

>>105632643
you fuck your shit up with overclocking, not undervolting

[spoiler]probably[/spoiler]

How to test/check for stability after upgrading a CPU? I guess pray the PC actually turns on, check BIOS looks normal then CPU-Z to make sure everything matches manufacturer website. Are there are tests or benchmarks to run?

>>105632733
lazy boomer: p95
lazy zoomer: y-cruncher
lazy alpha: occt

>>105632733
i just use cpu-z stress test if it works then it works

Silverstone should make a full tower version of the FLP02 and improve the functionality of the design.

How does this motherboard make you feel?

>>105632883
Looks cool.

>>105632669
Building is half the fun, guess a woman wouldn't understand.

>>105632883
Meh
Yet another sub-brand for more segmentation

>>105632883
Angry because I need loads of sata ports.

>>105632944
no you don't nobody does

>>105632669
where's the fun in that?

>>105630687
>No link to video
>FG to 60fps
I played the entirety of AW2 with a 9070 XT, and let me tell you, there's no way to get a decent framerate with "full RT" at 1440p. He's rendering at 720p (50%) with FG and hardly managing 60 in not even the most demanding area. That's not playable. captcha: sprta

>>105632428
>>105632431
Interesting, thanks, gonna do more testing,

>>105632947
I do and will not stop complaining until mobos with 8 sata ports exist again. My mobo from 2017 somehow automagically managed it.

>>105632998
They don't need any sata points
Cases need to drop the 2 3.5" drive rack too
And those Sata SSD slots too
All unnecessary
Go buy a rackmount if you need more than NVME drives

>>105632998
wtf do you need 8 sata for?

>>105632998
>with 8 sata ports
just get a server at this point or migrate your data to one huge drive.

>>105631728
>>105631841
>>105631864


Find a CPU intensive game, find a benchmark that isn't using a developer created benchmark, Cyberpunk is by far the worst one of these currently used by hardware shill sites, extrapolate the benchmark to other CPU intensive games that aren't ever used in these websites.

In this case it would be Baldurs Gate 3 city scene, which has a 60 FPS difference between a 9800x3d and a 9950x

>>105633008
>>105633020
No fuck you shekelberg.

>>105633009
A whole bunch of drives i've collected over the years that work just fine.

>>105633032
>wokegate 3
nobody cares

>>105632424
jesus christ
first, i posted two videos and second, watch video #2
>CPU Reviews, How Gamers Are Getting It Wrong (Short Version)
from 8:00 onwards.
they gave you a scenario where they took watch dogs legion (2020)
3090ti data with 5800x (nov 2020) and 5800x3d (apr 2022).
on 4k the 5800x already fell short in sep 2024 with warhammer
space marine 2 (sep 2024) (upscaled 99 vs 80 fps; 1% lows 86 vs 66
(whereas native max is 92 fps) and slightly less difference in
Starfield (yes i know) 2022 while the 5800x3d still had a little bit left

knowing this now, would you in 2023 july had bought the 5800x3d $300 or
the 5800x $220

>>105633057
literally don't care after you tried to pull that stunt trying to post as me. fuck off. you're probably a jew.

Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube, they will be singing their own praises as usual. Instead of focusing on real-world performance, AMD’s marketers aim to dupe consumers with bankrolled headlines. The same tactics were used with the Radeon GPUs. Zen 4 needs to bring substantial IPC improvements for all workloads, rather than overpriced "3D" marketing gimmicks. New PC builders have little reason to look further than the 12600K which, at a fraction of the price, offers better all round performance in gaming, desktop and workstation applications. Users with an existing AM4 build should wait just a few more months for better performance at lower prices with Raptor Lake or even Zen 4. The marketers selling expensive “3D” upgrades today will quickly move onto Zen 4 (3D) leaving unfortunate buyers stuck on an overpriced,dead-end, platform.

>>105633123
>12600K
isnt 12600k btfo by like 5600x3d

>>105633140
Cache sensitive scenarios such as low res. canned game benchmarks with a 3090Ti benefit at the cost of everything else. Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry picked games that showcase the wins, conveniently ignore frame drops and gloss over the losses.

>>105633156
oof yikes

>>105633176
Feels good to be a 9800 chad

>>105633176
I don't see my cpu on this list, that can't be good.

>>105631841
Though there are people like me who also play a lot of autism games that do benefit from X3D. Like paradox games, distant worlds 2, dwarf fortress etc

>>105633287
see >>105632696

>>105633287
AAA sloptard don't understand the pain of playing late game stellaris or eu4. Yes I do NEED 9800x3d

>>105633287
If you know, you know.
You otherwise don't need a shitload of contrived benches to tell you so.

>>105633315
9800x3ds are literally being shilled to AAA sloptards who don't have a 5090.

>>105633266
The R5 1600 is nearly a decade old anon.

My 5800x3d bottlenecks me when playing far cry 4 at 4k.

>>105633078
at this point learn how to 4chan idk
that was for the threading while addressing both posts in one reply
on second thought, who should suck off who now

>>105633351
2014 was half a century ago.

>>105633078
at this point learn how to 4chan idk
that was for the threading while addressing both posts in one reply
on second thought, who should suck off who now

>>105632938
one that's been around before aorus was even a thing

>>105633371
Haslel

>>105630249
> 457€
> for a 27" display
It better be a Dual Layer IPS for this ton of shekels.

>105633123
>105633156
Troll copy and pasting from usershitmark just ignore

Should I upgrade my 5900X to 9800X3D? My use case is playing in 4K, streaming with multiple Edge tabs open, and rendering videos.
I bought this and my motherboard back in 2021. I'm kind of tempted to upgrade to the 9800X3D because I've read some posts of 5900X owners who went with the upgrade, and they said their 1% lows were improved.
But that would mean replacing my motherboard and RAM.
Will the upgrade be worth it?

>>105630285
Who cares if this happens in garbage crap like "Monster Hunter Wilds" that no grown up plays?

>>105632883
that represents everything that is wrong today with the absolute state of DIY computing. appeals to retarded kids that are willing to pay a lot for bullshit.

>>105633531
>Will the upgrade be worth it?
You're asking the wrong question. The question EVERY upgrade starts from should be;
>am I unhappy with my current setup?
If no, keep it. If yes then an upgrade is viable.

>>105633477
Even worse, they are recycling a nameplate used for high end boards for matx slop boards.
I was even around for that time, it seems they only used it for a handful of boards so its probably why I don't remember it.

Is it even malice, or just complete unoriginality?

>>105630724
https://www.tp-link.com/us/powerline/

>>105630816
I hope you will enjoy being the laughingstock of /g/.

>>105632954
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XCLLgTHUaK8
You don't own shit lying pajeet. That's the framerate just before the fg took effect. Fps is around 110 to 120 which means anywhere from 50-60 real frames. Perfectly playable.

>>105630821
>save a little bit
>save double
>575W
>guaranteed to need a new PSU too

>>105630254
>Recommend 32 GB

I bet even at 4K Ultra-wide, this game won't use more than 10GB of RAM.

>>105630951
> a five pack of ARCTIC P12 PST
What for? A radiator? For venting a case you would better get P14 PWM PST 140mm fans, also available as a "family pack" of five.

>>105633612
Spiderman 2 uses 20GB at 4K

>>105633601
Another lying nvidiot debunked

>>105630387
Dubious minimum viewing distances.

>>105633612
4K is a meme and even a 5090 can barely handle it. 1440p is what you want. 1080p if you want very high FPS. Don't let anyone gaslight you into 4K.

>finally get around to putting shroud on 2nd monitor to tackle some reflections
>have to rotate said monitor to account for the shroud poking out
>get different reflections because angle changed
ffs. Gonna keep it on though as it makes me feel like i'm looking at some mission critical display on a submarine or something which is neato.

>>105630821
>Just save an extra $2000

>>105631626
I wouldn't mind getting a workstation card if it runs "Anno 117 Pax Romana".

>>105633660
1440p is a coperes only retarded gaymers on $200 "FAST IPS" panels cope on

4K is the standard for PC Gaming

>>105633566
Good point, anon.
Right now, I am very happy with my current setup. I can play my favorite games with it.
I guess I just got hit by the itch to upgrade because of the overwhelming amount of praise the 9800X3D gets.
That, and my CPU and motherboard are a bit old now (I bought them in 2021).
I'm planning on buying Stalker 2 this upcoming Steam Summer sale, and based on this video, it will be playable with my setup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clvC6dqdVJI
I guess I'll keep my 5900X. Thanks, anon!

>>105633677
Stalker 2 isn't playable with any setup

>>105633688
It's because of UE5, right?
I guess I'll just have to tone down some settings for more frames lol

>>105633499
thats a completely normal price for a monitor i think your brain is rotted with usa prices

>>105633675
1080p is the standard

>>105633688
Oh yeah, I remember pirating it. Ran like shit, played like this, buggy, and boring. Completely forgot it existed until your post.

>>105633568
yeah they should have used it on the Z790 Aorus Tachyon or some other OC focused board instead

>>105633696
I don't know what happened with it. The devs just said fuck it and used the worst graphics hacks imaginable to make a blurry stuttery buggy mess.

>>105633738
>I don't know what happened with it
they're ukrainians

>>105631656
To speak frankly: the RX 9070 XT is utter crap for anything else but running games that were optimized specifically for RDNA4. It has no practical use and value because it has no CUDA cores. The 9950X however is just as good for production as the X3D variant and only slightly slower in gaming. Get a GeForce if you want to do anything productive with your GPU and save money on the CPU instead.

>>105633748
>It has no practical use and value because it has no CUDA cores.
xD

I would play at 1080p if devs just put SSAA in everything and banished TAA to the depths of hell forever

>>105633738
>retire duct-taped slav engine because it's buggy and inefficient
>switch to the industry standard tooling instead
>game is even buggier and more inefficient
l o l e

>>105633677
>>105633696
Don't listen to fagdick. It runs amazing on my rig with a 4080 Super and 13700k, 1440p NATIVE, all settings maxed. It only "doesn't run" with a fucking toaster.

>>105630711
talking purely on a quality perspective, most vas i could track are inferior to their ips counterparts in the same price tag ive searched (lets say 100€), but that info is relaying on my search across reviewers and videos, all you said holds true.
i have my eyes on a cheap (talking about price here) ips that i know for sure is better than all vas in the same price tag.

>>105633768
va is always trash, if you want pure e-sport wankery you go TN if you want a balanced gaming experience you go IPS if you want to watch movies go buy a tv.

>>105633721
Not even OC, but just a general high end board.
Maybe even bring back the PLX chips but that is extreme wishful thinking.

>>105631728
>>105631841
The 9800x3d is significantly slower in productive apps and other heavy workloads. My 9950X3D for example installs Oblivion Remastered from a Fitgirl repack in almost half the time (~30min). I think the time saved is well worth some hundred bucks more. Probably everybody who can afford it thinks the same.

>>105633800
yeah true, also PLX chips would justify charging $1000+ for once

16 Intel P-cores gives me hope
Can't believe they are still selling 8 P-Cores CPUs as i9

I still don't get the current meta of 4K max settings Ultra but the run at DLSS Performance

>>105633826
They are comparing the 9950x to a 9800x3d and not the 9950x3d.

>>105633826
if you're not playing 24/7 get more cores vs x3d meme

>>105633876
metas are set by corporate bots shilling to consoom slop. whatever you own is already shit and whatever they're selling is going to fix your life

>>105633878
But the 9950X3D exists
You can literally have your cake and eat it

I am a schizophrenic heroin addict. Which graphics card should I buy?

>>105633900
I think their point was that the X isnt that much slower than the 9800x3d. If you have the cash or do non gaming stuff of course the 9950x3d is better.

>>105633826
>Oblivion Remastered from a Fitgirl repack in almost half the time
But why?

>>105633900
Before you had to choose one, but 9950X3D does everything. 100% worth it. I'd upgrade but I don't feel like taking out my fat ass cooler and would rather wait for 11950X3D or whatever it's called. Remember, you'd never seen a disappointed 9950X3D owner.

>>105633919
It has double the cores and AMD is superior when it comes to multicore workloads

>>105633912
RX 560

>>105633937
no why are you downloading fitgirl repacks you waste more time installing that garbage than you would on downloading non repack

>>105630354
https://phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDensityCalculator.html

>>105633931
>you'd never seen a disappointed 9950X3D owner.
if you can afford it yeah sure

>>105633696
> It's because of UE5, right?
It's because of hohol devs messing it up.

>>105633677
> I'm planning on buying Stalker 2 this upcoming Steam Summer sale
You better test the game if it's even worth it before spending your precious shekels on it. I was rather disappoint, it's not what I expect from a Stalker game. Only tons of mods made it interesting but constant updates break the mods again and again and at some point I lost any interest.

>>105633931
yeah you do when the asrock mobo explodes it

>>105633976
Fair but you get what you fucking deserve for using an Asscock board with a $700 CPU.

>>105630387
I sit 5 feet away so I can get a cheap 1080p 42 inch screen and it will look as good as your one thousand dollar 4k cuck screen.

>>105633660
> even a 5090 can barely handle it.
Every game runs 60+ FPS in 4k even with a 5070 Ti. We used to be happy in the 90s when a game ran at 40 FPS, this was considered playable.

>>105634010
Ocarina of Time won GOTY at 20fps lel. Same year as Half Life 1.

>>105633588
No! Why??

>>105634010
you didn't pay 3k on a GPU in the 90's

>>105634010
>We used to be happy in the 90s when a game ran at 40 FPS
maybe your console poorfag was.

>>105633878
The 9950X is just as fast under such workload as the 9950X3D. It's the number of cores that make the difference.

>>105634010
Technically sure, I guess, but not really

Hopping onto the oled train, are oled safety/care features a meme or prolong monitor life significantly? Initially, I thought to drop the idea to get an oled because I spend about half time gaming, half time other stuff, is it worth to get an oled? I also got new gpu recently and need a gysnc monitor but could use my current monitor for regular stuff. I thought to just get Alienware AW2723DF and call it a day

>>105634031
that and things are supposed to improve overtime

>>105634103
A meme? They're mandatory you can't even turn them off if you wanted to.

>>105633944
Fitgirl repacked games run without starting up steam or EPIC or uplay or whatever other crap, they don't force/urge me to download their updates, I remain in control. I can install them anywhere without the need for a fast internet connection (say in a rural vacation home). Some games are overly expensive with all DLC included and DESU I rather wait 30 minutes for installation to complete than pay €149+. Wouldn't you? And most games install much faster than Oblivion Remastered. This is a rather extreme example that I only used to demonstrate the difference in performance of 9950X3D vs 9800X3D.

>>105634168
>without starting up steam or EPIC or uplay or whatever other crap
how are you this technologically illiterate and own 9950x3d? Let me guess a zoomer with a prebuilt?

>>105634199
prebuilts and steam ruined pc gaming

Is the 9060XT 16GB a safe choice over the 5060?

>>105630506
help needed sars

>>105633988
I admit that I waited with the installation until lazy ASSRock finally published a BIOS that solved the problem. But the Nova is a bloody gorgeous masterpiece of mobo except for the fact that there are no Win10 drivers for it's Mediatek Wifi module. Luckily I rather use Powerline Ethernet anyway.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/asrock-phantom-gaming-x870e-nova-wifi-in-test-cheap-taichi-alternative-with-experience-report-teardown-material-testing-and-thermal-modding/

>>105634266
buy nvme its literally the same price and 10 times better durability and speeds

>$3000 for a GPU?? YEAH COUNT ME IN BRO
>you want me to PAY for my games??? WTF

>>105634312
I unironically spend like ~$150 every weekend on the restaurant but I never buy games

>>105634199
No, a boomer with DIY builds for decades.
You now tell me how to start a purchased Anno 1800 copy without uplay please.

>>105634266
They're all pretty ass except the WD Blue and then only if it's the original Blue /not/ the DRAMless SA510. Like the other anon said buy an NVMe if you can but if not I'd say take the Blue (even if it is the 510 because at least it's TLC).

>>105634312
If only there were GPUs available as torrents I would download them and save the money.

>>105634330
it's crazy how fucking dumb you are and at the same time confident. fitgirl doesn't crack games he repacks scene releases.

>>105634307
i already got a p3, very good drive

>>105634359
>he

>>105634367
I'm sorry for misgendering your tranny hero "they"
jokes aside it's probably a group of 3rd worlder niggers because those are the only people that download repacks

>>105634359
Where did I claim otherwise? Learn to read before you try to school an elder.

>cpulet anon spergs out
Or should I say, cpupro spergs out.

>>105634389
To get around e.g. Steam DRM you need something like Goldberg and not just a pure repack.

>>105634389
>Where did I claim otherwise?
>Fitgirl repacked games run without starting up steam or EPIC or uplay or whatever other crap,
How about here. I told you to not download repack you immediately started coping about official copies because your dumb ass doesn't even know about scene releases.

>putting together new pc to save up for
>want to go lian li case, fans & cables
>strimer v2 doesn't do 2x8pin EPS connector
>but they have a wireless one
>the wireless fans don't have the infinity mirror in the center but the wired ones do

can they just get their fucking skus in order please instead of having this mish mash.

>>105634350
i agree but they will do for me, what do you mean by fake one? the only one available is the sa510

>>105634406
I like how you are reading more than what was actually said just to have an autistic chimp out. The statement is correct and no claim was made about who does the cracking.

>>105634435
Listen here kiddo, you didn't know, you got schooled it happens. You can either admit you had no idea about torrenting, scene releases and that you're just a zoomer who downloads fitgirl repacks because you saw it on titktok. Or you can keep larping and making fool out of yourself. Whatever floats your boat.

>found out i installed my closed loop cpu cooler wrong
>never have an issue
>cpu runs cool for 12 years with no problem
>never reapplied the thermal paste once
>only now in 2025 has this cpu died
rip 4770k little buddy. you were the goated

>>105634466
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

>>105634433
There's no fake one it's just that WD sells two (or rather 3*) SATA SSDs under the same basic label. The original "WD Blue" from 2017, with, TLC NAND and onboard DRAM and the later "Blue SA510" which uses a DRAMless controller to cut costs.

*The third being an even earlier version with 2D NAND.

>>105634010
Your time is over, old man.

>>105630687
>Needs mods to make it good
And people shit on Bethesda for doing the same thing with video games

I consooooomed. Downloading some bing bing wahoos now, Clair Obscur first.

>>105634860
Why AM4?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fM6rsp

ive already ordered and got all these parts except the gpu which is coming in a week. is there any problems with these. what should i do for the psu and case?

>>105634920
Already had the MBO and the RAM, just with the R5 3600. Managed to snag a 5800X3D just as it was being discontinued. The GPU is new, installed it yesterday, was on a RTX 3060 before. Actually pretty nice upgrade path, didn't even need to get a new PSU since I had a 650W Corsair one.

>>105634940
>PSU
750-1000W ATX3.1. Should be pretty high-end but not crazy.

>Case
Should be mesh fronted, since you have a decent chunk of heat in there, but otherwise just go with what you like (needless to say it should fit all your components). IMO the Meshify 2 remains undefeated but there's plenty of good cases out there.

>>105634482
so you did not know fitgirl and normal scene is the same?

>>105635080
Stay in school kiddo.

>>105635120
said the kid who can't answer questions

>>105634388
>jokes aside it's probably a group of 3rd worlder niggers because those are the only people that download repacks
wasn't Yify australian? seems like a solid theory

>>105634312
Videogames are way too expensive for the “value” they give

>>105634401
Always come included with Fitgirl's repacks. So comfy. First class service. Dodi also deserves credit for doing this.

>>105634539
I'm unvaxxed and will probably survive the 90% of the zoomers who are not.

>>105634860
Very nice setup. But I hope you upgraded and did not buy that dated hardware just recently.

>>105635627
>>105635627
>>105635627

9950X3D + 2 x 3090 Ti & 4 x 4 &8gb DDR7000?
>primarily for ai & mining using free electricity

Are dual (or triple/quadruple) 3090 Titaniums worthwhile? I just feel that 4090 & 5090 are actually less powerful in general due to their perceived power coming from optimized hardware instead of raw horsepower... making 3090 the best all-around card available.
>inb4 shadowbanned