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>Interviewing
Neetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practice
Tips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/

>How to write a resume
https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/25/how-to-write-an-effective-developer-resume-advice-from-a-hiring-manager/

>Salary Stuff
"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiating
Salary data: https://levels.fyi/

>Software Development & Programming
GitHub Trending - https://github.com/trending
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
JavaScript, CSS, HTML sandbox - https://jsfiddle.net/
MDN Web Docs - https://developer.mozilla.org/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
AWS Service Health Dashboard - https://status.aws.amazon.com/
Cloudflare System Status - https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
DownDetector - https://downdetector.com/
Microsoft Azure Status - https://status.azure.com/
Microsoft Office 365 Status - https://portal.office.com/servicestatus

>Unemployment Advice
Interview Prep - https://www.wikihow.com/Ask-Your-Parents-for-Money
Building a Resume - https://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Manifesto
Salary Stuff - https://www.usa.gov/benefit-finder/disability
Emotional Support - https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
People who will be joining us shortly - https://layoffs.fyi

>International Job Boards
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/
Indeed - https://www.indeed.com/
Hiring Cafe - https://hiring.cafe/
YCombinator - https://www.workatastartup.com/companies
Wellfound - https://wellfound.com/jobs

>Anti-Pajeet Job Boards
USAJobs - https://www.usajobs.gov/
Clearancejobs - https://www.clearancejobs.com/

previous >>105594797

I'm retard

>>105631475
I forgive you

another day of nothing :DDDDDDDD

how are you going to survive the great depression 2.0?

which roadmap.sh are you going through?

is it normal for level 1 helldesk jobs to require prior experience and certs? i swear there aren't any real entry level jobs in my area

>>105632118
i need to go through probably all of it. even though i have one internship and a year of 'frontend developer' experience on paper, i don't know shit. i don't even like frontend. i also don't even have a cs degree.

>>105632077
suicide

>>105632118
no, just make shit

is writing a CPU simulator a meme project?

i imagine it'll be kind of fun writing a lil ol' risc babby computer and then trying to program it to do fun stuff

AHAHAHAHAHAHA NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS I GOT THE JOB LOL SUCK THE DANK BETWEEN MY TESTICULAR BALLS

>>105634383
Congrats anon!

>>105633479
align your projects with the kind of jobs your applying for

>>105634383
have fun in /twg/ anon!

I had forgotten how soul crushing it feels to send a bunch of applications just to get ignored or immediately turned down... surely it's just a matter of time, right anon?

>>105634819
i don't feel anything at all. all i hope is i land 1(one) job by the end

>>105634383
Just put the fries in the bag, anon.

>>105634383
congrats anon, cya in 6 months

Do you really have to write your CV in the:
"Made x, which resulted in a 99% increase in y"
format? That seems really gay and retarded

>finally got an interview after 3 weeks of non stop applying
I thought it was over, but we’re so back bros

>>105634996
I'm a visitor from /twg/. People who do this are by and large NPCs and it doesn't work because everyone is doing it and the numbers are made up, and quite obviously so. It can work, but only if the numbers are believable and the metric you improved actually matters. I see lots of shit where people improved page load times by 50% in an application where it probably doesn't really matter much if it takes a page 1 second or 2 seconds to load - no company is making back office software purchasing decisions based on "our users complain it's slow - but now that it's a little bit faster suddenly we're going to pay your company $25,000 a month when previously we were going to go with your competitor" Page load times are a footnote in the list of reasons to buy or not to buy a piece of software, unless it went from 30 seconds to load a page to 1 second, but in that case you just work for a shit company and you're painting yourself as a slop-cleaner-upper, not a real engineer. Same with implementing a feature that you claim resulted in 50% improvement in customer satisfaction (impossible to measure let alone correlate to that particular feature so obviously bs). There are plenty of examples where this format works, but it needs to be one of the good examples and you shouldn't be a robot about it, because it's just not necessary, if it's truly a good example then it should speak for itself.

I also really hate the "Made x, resulting in a y% improvement in <metric>, <subjective phrase ending in -ing such as "streamlining the user experience"> we get it, you wanted it to sound more sophisticated. But it should be obvious from your "Made x" part what the benefit is, if you need to spell it out at the end then that's a good indication that your bullet point doesn't have the oomph that you think it does

I have an excellent resume and experience at every level of tech (including director/CIO) and I'm still having trouble getting a codemonkey job even if I trim 70% off my salary. 17 of 50 project management roles have been revoked because they're not in the market for PMs anymore either.
What the fuck is this dumb ass job market?

>all the women with honours in my class got jobs like a week after graduation
>a month down the line and not a single one of the male honours got a job
interesting.
jarvis, for my next application, decline to answer any of the voluntary equity based hiring questions.

> Tell parents I got made redundant
> They send me outdated advice about finding a job that wouldn’t work in a million years anymore
> Nod along because I know their heart is in the right place and they are just trying to be helpful

I love you mom and dad.

>Do poorly on interview
>Recruiter calls me (I miss it) and leaves a voicemail
>"The interviewer said you don't have enough experience for [level], but says you have a good engineering mindset and wants you as a [one level lower], do you want to interview for that?"
>Didn't even know what level I was interviewing for in the first place desu, will take a fucking internship at this point though lmao this market sucks ass
>Call her back, she doesn't answer, leave a voicemail
>"Yeah, uhh, that level sounds good to me"
>Two days later still haven't heard back
FUCK

>>105634996
Quantitative metrics make your resume make sense to people who weren't there to know what you're talking about.
>Improved SIEM filters
uhhhhhh
>Completely reworked SIEM filters, resulting in a 99% reduction of false positives
whoooooaaaaaa man, that's a lot, you must be all smart and shit

>Diligently fixed computers
uhhhhhhh
>Reduced average trouble ticket resolution time from 3 weeks to 2 days
whooooooaaaaa man, that's a huge reduction, you must have a good work ethic and shit

bros, I need help. I quit my non IT job few months ago thinking I could crack a job in linux. So I tried to learn linux at job level. Got the RHCSA cert all that. I thought it would be enough to get a job but the recruiters wants me to have cloud skill as well. I'm willing to learn cloud. But, is there any way to learn AWS or Azure without giving my debit card info to these evil corps? They all require Debit/Credit card to setup the learning environment.

>>105637702
Staking your entire future on not putting some numbers into a box is certainly a choice.

>>105637702
Go buy one of those reloadable visas cards at walmart or whatever with cash. Pretty sure those cards still need your address and all that, I could be wrong, so if you're trying to avoid that too then good luck, Chuck.

>>105637236
>decline to answer any of the voluntary equity based hiring questions
That's an automatic no-hire

>>105637702
Sign up for privacy.com or something similar. You give them your debit card or a bank account as a funding source and they let you generate virtual credit cards with arbitrary limits on them. Make a $1 limited card and use that for your cloud provider.
Also certs are worthless and you're wasting your time.

>>105632077
alcohol, unless they do a ban like last time

>>105632077
Survive?

I'm unironically thinking of switching to a trade. My only issue with it (aside from obviously starting from scratch) would be the extremely low pay for 3-4 years before hitting slightly above average pay depending on the industry.

>>105631468 (OP)
i'm finally getting interviews, i had only rejections or no replies since april, but now i'm in the middle of interviewing with 4 different companies. i felt hopeless, desperate, and also angry at myself for being so useless. i don't know how this works but i'll keep applying while interviewing. is this some kind of hiring season?

What are those AIs that people on social media use to answer during the interviews? Is there any free?

So are we in a fucking recession or not

Make up your fucking minds (((msm)))

Current situation is that I'm an unpaid intern somewhere, which is my only internship as a rising senior, and I'm not sure how well it'll count.

My parents are generously paying for my college tuition in full.

Dumb question: should I get a last-minute minor to have rationale to extend my graduation by 1 semester and have 1 more internship cycle? Since it's not looking like I'm pulling fall co-ops/internships any more easily than I've been pulling summer ones.

And if I do, how can I convincingly lie to my dumbass Asian parents about getting a co-op so they'll be willing to pay for shit or whatever? Like maybe I could just drive to school but claim that I'm driving to my office, etc.

idfk

I feel like fucking Jennifer Pan rn

>>105636352
>that's a good indication that your bullet point doesn't have the oomph that you think it does
What if I don't have anything with any oomph?

>>105639564
It's coming...
It's gonna come..!
Soft landing!
Maybe not...
Still coming...
Almost here...

>>105637236
put female and pretend you're just a closeted tranny
similarly, when they ask for your sexuality (this is really invasive imo but some companies ask), just put bi, it's not like they can prove it

i know a guy who got an interview with a fairly big company after he changed his name on his resume to a female one lol. obviously he didn't get the job though

what resources should I review for a c# mid level interview at a mid sized startup? I really don't want to fumble this. I looked at linkedin and it appears everyone on the team is a white man

>>105639696
Learn a trade

>>105640104
>just put bi, it's not like they can prove it
What if part of the interview process is having gay sex on camera to weed out the cheaters?

what kind of projects do you have on your resume?

>>105631468 (OP)
>laid off from MSFT
>currently working my same old exact job for lower pay and with non stop pajeets in a witch company
>nothing getting back to me from applications
I'm not applying seriously yet, is it actually this bad

>>105640864
You probably won't get squeezed out of industry all together because you have faggotman experience but this is happening quite a bit these days

>>105640813
then do it (for him)

I work for a Belgian company called SDworx. I work for their Poland office as an IT support "engineer" with a Hay level 13. Poland, Spain, and Mauritius are considered the “tech hubs”, basically where they outsource most of the tech work like dev, IT support, etc. The main office is in Belgium obviously.

In the latest CEO podcast, they announced a new tech hub is going to open in India. Honestly, I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner, but it’s still a bit concerning. Recently, a few of my colleagues in Mauritius (not in IT, but in the infosec dept) were laid off. Still not 100% clear why, but it seems like they’re going through some kind of cost-cutting phase. Another thing, we used to get HP laptops, but now all the new ones are Dell 5520s, and they’ve been pretty terrible. Lots of issues. Just feels like corners are being cut.

Should I actually be worried, or is there nothing to stress about yet?

Got rejected yet again for a role at Meta. I am considering suicide somewhat seriously.

>>105639564
We are in a recession.

>>105639001
There's usually hiring peaks in March, And around August

>>105641660
What stage?

I just got a job at mckinsey AMA

>>105640387
Then get ready to start your own business out of a van because no one is hiring

>>105631468 (OP)
>have MSc
>have placement year experience
>can't even get a fucking interview for an amazon grad program, who hire anybody
I'm tired anons, the only thing that's even pushing me out of neethood is the crushing disappointment and pushing from my parents. Every time I go to program or whatever I get completely overwhelmed remembering all the insane requirements that even entry-level positions have and it makes me panic

study security :3

get isc2 isscp book ect.

all my spaghetti everywhere when I think about research if that gives incentive to look into my browsing history so I ditch it another.

- The pay amounts huge =)
- get to write exploits afaik
- Classy Job
- Hero of sorts

cons

- knowledge retention is hard for me
- bringing home the bacon isn't important to me as a person
- toys what else does anybody in IT purchase its toys unless I want them no.

I don't think I should be picking that as a major.

>>105641920
cybersecurity is getting killed by ai

>>105641527
anyone

>>105641931
2 more weeks

>>105642152
use downtime in your job to learn new skills and hop to another company in 6 months time? how are you this oblivious

>>105631468 (OP)
>anti pajeet job boards
>mfw I don't have a security clearance and there's a hiring freeze

I'm starting at a new university this fall to finish my bachelor's after getting an associate's in programming and also to get some internships. It's one of the best public universities for CS in my state and is in an area with a lot of tech jobs but I'm not optimistic about the job market at all.
This is going to be a waste of time and money, right? I should either switch degrees or just find a job in blue collar or retail/foodservice. I don't know which degrees I should switch too though, I'm autistic as fuck and there's no way I would get along with anyone in a normie degree field like marketing or finance.

>>105642607
CS is oversaturated to hell, physics, chemistry, biology as degrees are largely useless unless you go into research. engineering is also oversaturated, but at least you can get security clearance government work.
>job in blue collar
blue collar replacement has been going on for even longer than the current white collar offshoring exodus, and now that learn2code as a corporate psyop to drive down wages to complete, learn2weld will be the next so good luck there as well.

>>105642390
just don't be a jeet

>>105640157
C# In A Nutshell
By Joseph Albahari

>>105642656
There are no jobs. what the fuck is going on.

fwiw, my job will probably be available soon, doubt i'll make it through this weekend

>>105643030
What did you do?

>>105643021
thanks for playing! remember that your own political class in whatever country you reside in actively despise you and wants to make you replaceable as fast as possible

>>105643151
i haven't done anything yet, just thinking really hard about it

>>105643021
Immigration + outsourcing + automation
there will be no UBI because the ruling class doesn't want that to come out of their income
in a decade I expect them to start openly culling the "useless eaters", assuming some other orchestrated mass depopulation event like WW3 or another plandemic hasn't happened by then
the only way to stop this is to go full kaczynski + luigi

>>105643224
is anime safe

>>105642607
>just find a job in blue collar or retail/foodservice
You should be doing that right now, you shouldn't go to university without working
That's how you become unemployable

>>105643304
so I should go to university with an internship, and work in a blue collar or no-skill job at the same time? I don't think that's even possible between all the commute unless I take like night classes or work the night shift but at that point I'll be lucky to get even 6 hours of sleep

>>105643354
Some people do it, and your future employer expects you to do it

I don't know if it's time to learn java. It's the most loved language where I live (not India btw).
The problem is that I've worked as a freelancer all my life and HR departments hate me for this.
So, I don't know if it's worth trying to learn another tech or just renewing my business and even steering away from programming.
I don't even have money to invest sadly.

>>105643612
Java shouldn't be too hard to learn if you have experience with any other OOP language like C++ or C#

I have a round 2 interview for a general IT role in 30 mins, wish me luck anons!

>>105643618
I actually already learned a bit about java and spring, I may even be productive in a project, but learning more and becoming proficient feels like a waste because I just get rejected.
It feels like there isn't much companies want to buy from me right now and improving at java doesn't feel like it would help me.
I don't know. Thanks for trying to help btw.

HOLY FUCK I'M SO FUCKING EXHAUSTED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BUT
I NEED TO PUSH THIS TECHNICAL CHALLENGE OVER THE FENCE

THE HEAT IS MAKING IT 100X HARDER TO WORK TOO WHY DID I GET THIS DURING A FUCKING NATIONAL HEAT WAVE

>>105639001
Sameu anon

>>105641527
I wouldn't say jump ship immediately, but definitely start looking around. No reason to think the ship is going to right itself, or that cost cutting won't continue

>SHITALY
>interview today
>full stack spring boot vue
>product related to tracking stuff like trucks
>near the end of the interview say that they want to add me to the 24/7 rotation
>"ahh ok, cool, sure, I can handle jumping in to help FLS, in case it's required"
>no, you'll be FLS
>no way of filtering calls, no online ticketing system or something like that
>wut, what do you mean, why does this come up after the second technical interview
>ehm, ehh, happens, etc

I'm so fucking done with this fucking country.

Considering joining the Army.

>>105643966
For tech stuff or just enlistting?

>>105643631
do you get the job

>>105643966
You shouldn't join the army without first trying to join the air force, or at least that's what everyone says.

>>105643946
anon don't you like having two jobs while being paid for half one?
Are you one of those entitled youth so common in Italy???

>>105644102
The interview went well, but I won't know until next week if I got it. Fingers crossed

Well fellas, my neetdom is over, first job at 28. It's only a helpdesk apprenticeship at £20k but goes to £29k after six months. They're also sponsoring me to do certs and shit. I'm gonna cry. [spoiler]I wish my dad was still alive.[/spoiler]

Well fellas, my neetdom is over, first job at 28. It's only a helpdesk apprenticeship at £20k but goes to £29k after six months. They're also sponsoring me to do certs and shit. I'm gonna cry.

>>105644969
>>105644981
congrats and good luck. your dad would be proud of you

>>105644981
The income doesn't matter because having AN income is what's crucial. Also, help desk is very universal on a resume, it's an excellent starting point for really anything

>>105644245
Just give me a fucking break. I was sperging out internally. Ruined my whole fucking weekend. Someone should just nuke this shithole.

>Miss the tech boom while zogbotting
Oh well, at least I can get a job at a defense contractor
>US is basically at peace and out of warzones for the first time in 20 years
Oh well, at least I can get some bullshit federal job
>DOGE fucks everything up
Well shit, here's to hoping we go to war with Isra- I mean Iran. I want an easy 4x10 Lockheed job.

>>105631468 (OP)

I thought to myself cybersecurity

pros

- Exploit Dev
- High pay
- Working nights and portfolio constantly expanding field
- issap is insane high pay grade.
- look for loopholes to hack (amazing!)

cons

- Retaining information takes a lot out of me
- Networking is bad it was a pain in the ass in high school
- Ratting your ratting on your friends with a cybersecurity job

I still like it can someone help me decide by tonight if I wanna choose that as a major?

>>105646483
>>105641920

grr I posted twice

>>105645650
I'm sorry anon, this is Italy. This country exists to subject its inhabitants to a long, never ending humiliation ritual

>>105645650
>>105646924
why did you guys drop off so hard in the 70s you could have been a major player

>>105643946
Wait are you doing fullstack + support or just support? Because I could see a company making you prove you can do fullstack just for a fucking helpdesk role.

>>105645655
>>US is basically at peace and out of warzones for the first time in 20 years
The US has been rabbidly (correct spelling) trying to enter a war with Iran for the past week (and I hope as many zogbots die as possible).

>>105637236
Yes and retards still pretend DEI hires is not a thing. Just gitgud lol

>>105647018
Look up who America put into power after ww2.

No idea what IT analyst is, and I didn't want to be in IT, but apparently I'll be allowed to move around in the company so just hoping my contact pulls through. Especially since I just need something.
I could be a data scientist apparently. Not sure what they do other than I've heard memes about making money while running python scripts all day.

>>105647763
America literally set the whole of europe to be a dependent after WW2, it was a masterplay in grand strategy
even the relationship between the US and the UK is like an abusive son coercing his wheelchair bound dad to get in on his schemes, it's really sad to watch as a European honestly

>>105648326
my position was listed internally as an "analyst", was just a linux sysadmin on cloud shit

>>105648877
I was meaning Italy especially.
tl;dr, mafia.

>>105632181
yes, in this market only. You're not the first to remark this

>>105633479
Anything not a saas you'll make penies from is meme shit as far as employers are concerned.

>>105636352
congrats on never having had a tech job but wtf are you doing on /g/ let alone /twg/ then

>>105639564
Have been since 2020, yet to recover based on the financial meaning of recession

>>105641764
"anybody" always meant pajeets. Don't read too much into it.

>>105648896
After actually reading the job description it seems to be handling SQL shit.

>>105649544
that's mad. every job is like "minimum 1-2 yoe in a similar role required"
motherfucker how am i supposed to get 1-2 yoe in helldesk if nobody is offering it at the moment

>>105649669
That's your problem

>>105649669
That's the part where you're supposed to invent that experience bro...

just got the offer letter. best money and benefits I ever got. I think that's it.
t. jobless since September

>>105649906
see you on /twg/ congrats!

>>105640020
I've been getting promised a good recession for a couple of years now, and all I got was a shitty 20% dip on S&P (and it was all due to tariff retardation). they didn't even let it start.
apparently job market is somehow the only fucking thing that got affected by (((the recession))).

>>105650074
Recession is a buzzword to say the poors will get fucked by the richs again, but in a way that looks like a natural phenomenon. The top 1% has never been so rich btw

>>105651054
And they'll be even richer after the recession because they're the ones with the money to buy up cheap stocks and defaulted houses.

Why don't applicants laminate their resumes anymore?

>>105649669
i'd say join the military but i did that and it doesnt appear to have helped

>>105648940
>tl;dr, mafia.
is this really true, i thought the main reason for existence of american mafiosos was because they had a huge exodus post-war as things became relatively stable and lawful in the wake of dozens of installed leaders genuinely too naive and new to The Game to be as corrupt as necessary (or at least corrupt in the necessary ways, or frustratingly incompetent at their corruption) to let pre-great war mafioso-controlled burgs flourish like they did previously

If I accepted a job in a Big Tobacco company, would it be a stain on my resume? I have an interview lined up, the pay is probably very good.

>>105651782
tobacco does tend to stain stuff yeah. dont look at smokers' teeth

>>105631468 (OP)
>applying for jobs
>see this
>burst out laughing

>>105651728
I'm not 100% sure but I thoroughly trust the source that told me. The idea was Mussolini worked to uproot the mafia, America came in post-war and said "You're all getting government positions now".

>>105651714
NTA but
>joining the military when America wants war
I don't live anywhere near any of the countries involved and I still wouldn't even consider it.

>>105651836
i'm not a history buff so maybe you're right; most of my knowledge of mafioso shit comes from the context of canadian gangsters i've read about, where most of the history of each of them is "[country] either fucking collapsed so hard no one even had money for black market goods or got rich and liberal enough that crime was no longer profitable or became annoying to do so they moved here where things were still really fucking dumb" with italian "black hand" types mostly moving to the new world less because newly installed italian leaders were anti-crime and more that they were all Literally Whos who were easy to bribe but not particularly effective at doing the things you bribe them for, and newfound wealth from post-war gibs made their less violent services irrelevant or too competitively priced to remain restricted to italy

>>105651897
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened too, just because some were put into power doesn't mean they all were.

>>105651836
they give you a free sword though

>>105651992
And a free funeral.

>>105651999
nope actually, the family has to collect the body and dispose of it themselves

You can't get a job because you literally act like this in interviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0KjdDJr1c

>>105652068
>7 years old
I don't remember things being this unfunny.

>>105649669
There's really no point in hiring people with no experience when there's so many people with experience who are out of a job. Say you get hired, you then have to be trained way longer to get up to speed, then you'll just job hop once you get your experience. Better to just skip you altogether.

How good of a relationship do you have with your parents?

Why am I so stupid
How do I develop a genuine passion
I kind of like programming but even with that I need to force myself to do it, why does it seem like everyone else just does things automatically, learns and develops skills like it's second nature?

1. I guess I never really learned "proper" programming. It worked out fine at my last job because I was mostly just a code monkey, but what should I know if I'm looking for a better job? I did use pseudocode (and occasionally a whiteboard for database/ER diagrams or UI planning) at my last job, but I feel like I'm missing a good bit of info. I've never done anything to do with unit testing, and I don't know that I even did speccing properly. What sort of course should I study to learn that?
2. Is agile still the most prevalent development methodology? We were supposed to use that at my last job, but they were lazy about it. Should I study it?
3. I never really learned how to use an IDE's debugger; I would just print stuff to console (a lot of the time I've just used a text editor anyway). Should I learn that?

>>105652811
Not much of one

>>105652811
none. my father died in 2002, and my mother is a drunk. haven't seen her since 2014.

>>105652811
It'd be better if I had a job.

>be me
>autist, enough to receive accommodations everywhere
>can barely complete projects or pass behav interviews
>internshipless college student
>rising senior prepping for newgrad
>so many rejections / so little experience that i seriously contemplate branches of the military
>apparently more willing to onboard in this economy
>one of the few fields that still openly get away with anti-autist discrimination

>>105652970
>autist, enough to receive accommodations everywhere
You could get on disabilitybux

>>105651714
original anon here, my country's military is a woefully underfunded joke anyway so fuck that

bombed a jeetcode prescreen OA today :DDDDDD

>>105652846
I hate my parents so much I literally wanna bludgeon them to death with a blunt object in Minecraft

>>105653521
"oh you're not mature enough"

well i wonder if they'll think i'm mature enough to fucking kms

when i grow up i wanna be a fucking alcoholic

>>105653521
Meh, I don't hate mine, it's just whatever... They basically ignored me as a kid/teenager and focused on my more interesting siblings. I figured they didn't really like me since I spent most of my time on the computer/internet (back in the 90s/00s). They started caring more once I graduated and got a real job and made a lot of money, so we got closer for a little while. But then one day my dad got too drunk and told me that he kind of avoided me when I was a kid because I was so boring. I guess I was right all along, so now I have kind of an arms-length relationship with them. We talk on the phone for holidays and occasioanlly, but I haven't seen them in years.

>>105652811
I don't hate them, but if they died I wouldn't shed a tear at the funeral.

>>105653654
I wonder if any of them would shed a tear at my funeral

in Minecraft

>>105652811
Don't care for them.

>>105632181
They do now, because most of those jobs are at MSPs where they expect you to sit in a nonstop phone queue and fix anything that uses electricity. You'll be expected to do everything from password resets to building servers and fucking with every box that has anything to do with networking. Don't worry, you'll be doing all that for about the same pay as McDonalds, too.

>>105634819
You have to think of it more like the lottery. Expect to lose 99.9% of the time. Yup, it sucks.

The govt consultants cut off by doge are now flooding the market.
Microsoft says they will be laying off "thousands" more.
Intel plans to layoff 20-25% of their workforce.

It's going to get much, much worse.

>>105645057
>the income doesnt matter
fu

>>105655120
I wonder how many Revature-like consulting companies are gonna pop up for cs grads in the next few years

For context, Revature is this consulting company known for having a fairly low hiring bar even in this market, but they choose where you work and what you work on, with extremely meager compensation, like under 60k

I am at the absolute bottom but my cope is that if I try hard enough I know I can easily do better than literally every indian on earth and the vast majority of FAGMAN do-nothings
I stopped caring about money and now i just desperately want to be great at engineering
I know there are niches that the white man can never be displaced from, that are protected by clearances or trade secrecy or that are simply too crucial to companies' revenue to entrust to GPT-wielding curryniggers
If i give up, the world will grind to a halt under the weight of infinite jeetslop and AIslop in not only webshit but hardware design, embedded software, etc etc
I'd rather be deluded and huffing copium than gooning my life away
Thanks for reading my blogpost
>>105652811
They're flawed but I love them. I've learned much from their mistakes. Mommy also doesn't charge me rent

>>105655896
I wish I could share your optimism but it genuinely seems like the elites are either so high on their propaganda that they actually think the average jeet is as trustworthy and competent as a white senior engineer, or they're just nihilistic and/or actively malicious and legit don't care if things just keep falling apart and getting worse.

>>105635001
congrats anon!!! I hope you get the job!!

I haven't been to /g since the AI revolution began, but in the last couple of months I created a startup and I'm finally making bank. I made over $10k this month and I wanted to check in to see how everyone else is doing. It feels like we're at the beginning of something beautiful. No longer do you need to work for someone else. If you have a good idea and can market it, the AI agents (plural) literally solve everything for you. Claude costs me $100 a month but has made me thousands in return.

Just looking at OP's picture it's evident that this field is deprecated. Imagine going to college for 4 years to learn how to cooode. Lmao.. we're at the beginning of the AI revolution and it feels good bros. How has AI changed your wagie life?

>>105657021
I like how you kept your wrong spelling of /g/ between threads. Really sells the faux-apathy.

>>105655993
It's the latter, they want to cull a big part of the population while being even more powerful and wealthy in the process

I just joined OMSCS. I'm an English teacher looking to make a career transition. I took 11 courses in a CS BA program to prepare for this. How absolutely fucked am I

>>105658633
its so over that its barely believable.

>>105655306
for rhe past several years consulting companies like these have blanket rejected ever applicants with experience. The publicly traded ones are all dumping because they aren't getting any contracts due to (supposedly) muh ai bullshit.

>>105659006
Like the witch companies?

>>105659418
Yes, and their lesser counterparts like capgemini, accenture and revature

Why are shitalians so dumb, lazy and greedy? At least jews are hardworking and ingenious while pursuing their greed. Even when shit is handed on a silver platter to a shitalian they ask it to be prepared further for then. At the same time they think they're so valuable and important.

Should I go into technical writing or become an airplane mechanic?

>>105659733
I tried applying to technical writing jobs (I have a phd and previously was in charge of technical blogs at a startup with well validated success) but couldn't get a callback and there are very few jobs around, so you should try airplane mech instead.

>>105647539
>rabbidly (correct spelling)
If that was using rabbi for wordplay, that was pretty fucking funny. If not, that joke went completely over my head.

>>105652811
I repeatedly flip between
>I hate interacting with them, but I don't hate them
>I fucking hate them for destroying any hope I had of having a good social life
I think they genuinely meant well, they're just very fucking stupid.

>>105652811
i dont talk to them. i dont talk to anybody

>>105660408
>If that was using rabbi for wordplay
It was.

My last (and first full time) job was working for this boomer on his pet project. He had this rube goldberg-esque library he had written over the years - data classes derived from data classes, multiple methods that did very similar things. just overengineered to hell. I was tasked with making some apps on top of it. It was pretty fun figuring out his code and he was very helpful but I didn't learn any actual skills. By the end he got too busy and it was just me working on it but I wasn't making much progress and got laid off. I still barely know how to code, atleast in the sense that might be required for regular jobs. I feel like I might never get hired again.

>>105661178
go be clinically indian somewhere else

its over we became a joke

Just got fired from twitter

>>105662230
my life has been a joke for years

>>105662230
It's not as straight forward as the headline implies.
97% of art history majors aren't working in art history jobs, since this is clearly employed at all it implies two things
>computer engineers are struggling to find work in their industry
>they're paid enough that they can afford to be unemployed for longer

I wish I learned something useful instead, something where I can create something physical, not solving imaginary problems

>>105662337
Thst's not at all the truth on the ground. Rather, artfags often get into management which is not allowed for the rest of us.

>have EE tech associate's because I'm an idiot
>stuck at dead-end repair job that pays dirt with no hope of advancement, just about ready to walk out
>apply for big boy jobs for the majority of a year
>no responses
>lower my standards and start applying for Help Desk 1 jobs, which I already have on my resume
>no responses
>go lower, apply at car dealerships to be a service writer because I have past experience with that too
>no responses
>go even lower, apply for a network cable running job that pays <$20/hr where one of the preferred skills is knowing Spanish (ie lots of Mexicans)
>get a phone interview
>HR lady is super dismissive and obviously doesn't want to hire me
>never hear back from them
Getting passed up for literal day laborers is a new low
Coming close to just waiting tables again, at least that got me laid

>learning javascript for the resume (and it's also pretty important to know nowadays)
>use copilot to ask some multiple choice questions about javascript that juniors should know to see if I understand it
>as an aside, apparently copilot has full on multiple choice quiz functionality now, who knew
>"What will the following code output? console.log(typeof null)"
>that's just null right?
>answer: object
>reason: In JavaScript, the 'typeof' operator returns 'object' for null due to a historical bug in the language that has been maintained for backward compatibility.
Motherfucker.

>>105662765
Pretty much same experience here except I never waited tables. Tried getting in around 2009 and around 2015 but both times was in the middle of a crisis so it didn't work out

>>105662765
Have you considered the deli? We could always use a hand

>>105662765
You'd think the repair job would be alright for a resume. Maybe not a normal dev resume but embedded may like it (not that they'll look in your direction since you don't have a decade of experience).

>>105662877
relevant meme

>>105662903
I actually already worked in a deli. Unironically the most fun job I ever had, but the pay was absolute dogshit. Applied around at other delis but the pay was never anything above 'survivable poverty' so I decided to stop considering it as an option. At least I know my way around good bresaola and caciocavallo though.

>>105663318
Sounds like a real deli and not a grocery chain which will give you a drinking habit.

>>105663381
... you haven't always had a drinking habit?

>>105663381
It was a legit family-owned Italian deli founded in 1949 so yeah far better than a chain. The 90 year old surviving owner wanted to pay like it was still 1980, but his son was super chill.
Already went through my alcoholism descent/recovery arc back when I was FOH manager at an upscale Italian restaurant though. I was also one of the only FOH workers who didn't have a rampant cocaine habit.

>>105662337
that implies something even worse thoughbeit
>computer engineers are struggling to find work even outside their industry
>art history majors are, somehow, employable in other fields

>>105665594
Art history majors are far more likely to have worked in hospitality or customer service before as well as be more willing to go back into it
Engineers however are a) less likely to have food service experience, b) more inclined to not stoop to something 'lower' than the STEM field they prepared for (a frame of mind that was up until recently fully justifiable), and c) often antisocial spergs who NEED to be in a non-human-facing position and can't just hop fields into a position whose only requirements are interpersonal skills and approachable demeanor.

>>105665682
>Engineers however are
>a) less likely to have ANY experience doing anything other than playing with consoomer toys
b) are entitled brats who think they deserve to make 120k starting because they know how fizzbuzz works
c) often antisocial spergs who NEED to be in a non-human-facing position despite utterly relying on the creations of men (and some women) before them

ftfy

>>105662230
All the engineering work went to China/India/AI, meanwhile all the bullshit BA and social studies majors got a huge boost from the DEI Industrial Complex.
Now STEMcels are living in strugglehuts working for poverty wages while Shaniqua makes $250k a year in DC to put together powerpoint presentations at a 5th grade reading level about the various -isms.

What kind of programming projects should I make to put in my portfolio?
The kind of stuff I want to do is programming graphical apps and games (and maybe even OSes) in C/C++, 2D or 3D

>webdevs with less experience get paid more than data engineers
kek

My parents and my NEET ass are moving to Florida (specifically Orlando) soon
What are entry-level programming jobs like there?
(...Including stuff such as programming shit like rides for theme parks?)

>>105666404
anything is better than nothing, but ideally it should be something relevant to the subfield you're trying to get in, or something that uses languages/libraries that employers want.
graphical apps aren't bad if you're looking to get into frontend and OSs might help you get a systems programming job

>>105666404
>The kind of stuff I want to do is programming graphical apps and games (and maybe even OSes) in C/C++, 2D or 3D
Grow up

>>105666694
?????????

anyone else applying for product design roles?
i'm up to 50 so far after 1.5 months unemployed with only one company putting me through to a technical assessment (didn't even have an hr screening call first)

>>105665711
cope and seethe artroon

>>105666549
false and false plus nobody ever looks at projects

>>105668294
product design roles don't even exist anymore in the 1st world, it's the same as.qa or dba. Now you have a single designer who must have a portfolio of artshit and will be doing all design from marketing and brand to web and tshirts.

>>105668655
>degree doesn't matter
>projects don't matter
so work experience is the only thing that matters?
I can't get work experience without having work experience in the first place then

>>105668698
You were supposed to get an internship. You didn't, so it's over

>>105668698
Degree is a minimal requirement. No degree = autotrashed resume.
During your degree you were supposed to get at least 2 internships (no, it does not count as work experience, but it does count for something) at fagman and network with the rich chads in your classes.

>>105668655
i put up analytics on my portfolio site and only 1 (one) person so far has clicked into a case study
most hiring managers just seem to make decisions based on what they see on the homepage

>>105668867
I'm surprised they even look at your homepage, they don't do it for mine.
Or maybe it's not them but the platform they use that visits the link to try to enrich the profile they have on you

>>105665594
>even outside their industry
No, they'd rather stay unemployed than leave their industry. Or maybe they have unfortunately unrealistic expectations of being hired.

>>105668896
Why are you so clinically retarded and what are you even mad about?

>>105666491
Are they paid more because their sector is retarded?
>learning webdev from a C# background, knew some asp.NET but not well but I'm very used to using ui builders
>mfw you're expected to hand code your webpages in 2025 when Microsoft Frontpage existed in the late 90s.

Do people not use ORMs anymore? I just had an interview where they asked me about stored procedures and db optimizations.

>>105668935
>mfw you're expected to hand code your webpages in 2025
no you're not, you're expected to use wordpress

>>105668867
>>105668894
the last time i went for a job interview they had the wrong resume prepared.

unsurprisingly, it was some jeet name.

>>105668935
It's fucked up that none of the gui (web or nonweb) creators exist anymore and people pretend it's a good thing. Figma is shit and people manually copy the design from figma and handcode the real version which is insane.

>>105668947
Only pajeet ever used orms

>>105668996
No you're not (but you should for a shitty landing page or similar, though having to implement every js components twice, once in js and once in php, makes wordpress unsuitable for more complex pages). You're expected to use nextjs.

>>105662230
learn to draw

>>105669248
I tried but I'm terminally incapable of anything artistic. No design of anything either.
I cam write real good though, but nobody's taken me up on that yet despite the proof points I provide.

>be me
>autistic anon from earlier
>again, dq'd from military officer enlistment due to said autism
>well fuck, in the meantime we've now entered some actual war
>if a draft were to happen (which i'm 0.00001% sure actually will), my tism would cause me to get conscripted as cannon fodder on the frontlines in iran (a la McNamara's Morons in nam)
>feelsbadman

>>105669936
>be diagnosed schizo
>will be excused from any drafts my country will have

for once feels bretty good

How bad does one have to be to find oneself always getting rejected during behavioral interviews for tech-adjacent internships?

>>105670044
terminally autistic like saying niggerlicious during interviews bad.

>got an interview at a defence contractor
>the interviewers are all ex-mil

>they're different elements than I am

not getting that job am i

>>105670044
Anything short of being a total normalfag, i.e. the slightest hint of a behavior that gives a roastie the ick, from your tone of voice to the way you laugh, will get you disqualified.
Anyone saying otherwise is a nocoder techbro and the reason tech has gone to absolute shit

>>105668698
You lie like a jeet to get a shot. You're competing with the 10s of thousands of dudes with more experience than you who've been laid off this past year and are scrambling

had an interview today and the department lead on the board kept sneezing directly at me

>>105671478
you had an interview on a sunday?

>>105671535
tech never sleeps BRO

>>105669242
Lmao no you're not. People are treating nextjs like the plague now that AI shits it out.

I get it now
the brown hand isn't supposed to be a black person it's an Indian

>>105671535
probably israeli company

>>105671970
One day you'll get a job timmy

>>105670604
Does being a chink and the interviewers all being either white women or white men help?

I heard the interviewers being Indian is the absolute worst

>>105673035
OFFICIAL INTERVIEW RACISM POWER RANKINGS
>JEW INTERVIEWER
you only got the interview because he thinks you're "in on it". you're guaranteed to get the job if you dont spill your spaghoots. if it were a fake job or otherwise not the case that this is two old boys hanging out, he would have sent a goy to deal with you instead.
>NIGGER INTERVIEWER
tyrones and shaniquas are not attracted to hr and not normally let into hiring positions anyway. to be interviewing you they're probably a massive uncle tom and true believer in capitalism and the hiring process. your interview will go well if you are at least as competent as the baseline desired and, more importantly, truly believe in your saelf.
>CHINK INTERVIEWER
bred from birth to get where he is, he will tolerate nothing short of absolute perfection in anyone else, even if deep down he knows he's not perfect himself. likely to be fooled by unicorn resumes and bring you in for an interview in good initial faith, but will grill the fuck out of you and you will not survive. if you are genuinely 2000iq he won't care about your race but if given the chance between a 200iq white and a 197iq chink he will take the chink (but dream at night of personally executing every <193iq chink though)
>SLAV INTERVIEWER
similar to a nigger interviewer, but there will always be a pang of superiority within him, whether it is because he's a rich oligarch wannabe or someone who escaped an ex-soviet hell and overly proud of it. either way, he thinks he's better than you and will not be afraid to show it. will probably crush your hand during the greeting handshake.
>JEET INTERVIEWER
if you aren't a jeet yourself you ain't getting the job. and even if you are a jeet, if you aren't of the appropriate caste for the position relative to him in the org chart you're also SoL
>WH*TE INTERVIEWER
the job was fake. you're only there to be documented as failing the interview so he can just import more jeets (or slavs, if in yurop)

>>105673125
>>WH*TE INTERVIEWER
There's a very strong split here.
The interviewer's a white man over 35? You've got a fair shot. Might grill you but the job is real and the position is within reach for you.
The interviewer's a white man under 35? The whole thing's a scam or won't exist in 12 months, run.
White woman? Not a snowball's chance in hell, you were dead in the water before you even got an interview. Basically brought in as a humiliation ritual.

>>105673125
False. Chinks are exactly like poos but also if you say anything they son't know/understand (which is nearly anything) you're out

why is this general split from /twg/?

>>105673380
someone kept having autistic freakouts any time anyone asked for job seeking advice and the difference just kinda stuck.

>>105671970
AI slops out any popular language/framework

>>105672320
"timmy" is such a hilarious failed attempt at inventing a slur, it misses the whole point. It's like "chud", only a liberal could come up with something so toothless.

>>105673228
The unpaid role I got was a young white man, and the role I really wanted but didn't land was multiple older white men

>>105673603
i know timmy used as per >>105672320 is someone trying to pretend to be a retarded sjw or something but in a lot of gaming communities "timmies" are a real thing and mean something pretty specific. i would not be surprised if the people trying to make it more of a slur stole it from MtG, where it denotes a (usually new) player with very basic strategies centered around big individual plays. (these are the weaker sorts of decks so calling someone a timmy is tantamount to calling them a noob)

/utwg/
if you still unemployed, enlist in the Army.
The nation needs you in the upcoming cyberwar, be a patriot

>>105673921
i did this, it made crystals

If you're poor why you didn't just invest on BitCoin and 100x your money ? are you stupid ?

>find high paying company with good benefits
>kidnap one or more of their employees
>"cold" call/e-mail the next day with my resume asking if theres any open jobs before they can post the job listing
>if interview get, torture the employee i kidnapped so he tells me everything there is to know about the job
>if no interview, just dump the body at his workplace
>buy the dip when a scandal comes out that joe blow died "at work"
>if get job, dump the body at a rival company, buy the dip there instead
It's literally a foolproof plan. Why isn't everybody doing this?

>>105673603
You must be 18 or older to browse this site, timmy

>>105673748
unironically take your meds and go back to redd!t

if you just got laid off you probably have enough saved up to chill for a while. you only need to /panic/ if you're a newgrad

>>105674188
this i have over 800k tc just from my investments

>>105674188
Maybe if you're european. I was forced to go to the us precisely because after getting laid off I wasn't even able to afford 3 months of rent if I stopped eating.

>>105674262
fuck me. To go to europe FROM the us

>>105674275
>doesnt even have 3 months of rent
>immigrates to the EU somehow
good larp

>>105674314
Not my fault that a 1-way ticket is 1/3 my monthly rent, jew.

>>105637702
how hard is the RHCSA?

Is dropshipping a meme or should I just fucking stack boxes instead to make money? Maybe I should just retrain as a 'project manager' and do nothing.

>>105674066
1000 times 100 is 100,000 multiple rollercoaster rides ago

>>105677002
>Is dropshipping a meme
yes, esp with every world leader meming about tariffs

>>105674950
>illegal immigration
youve become what you hate

>>105677748
ever heard of visas and sponsorships, pajwet?

when is ww3 starting
I'm tired of this world, these people

>>105678305
>i-im really a y-yuro now, i got a SPONSORSHIP from durgasoft to work there !!
incredibly jeeted post

>>105679461
what in the absolute fuck are you trying to say, pajeet? In english this time, I don't do hindustanish.

germany has a new one year job searching visa btw

>>105641527
Are you trying to get doxxed or something?

>>105641527
Yes. Jump ship asap if you can even get interviews. Get started right this instant with how shit the market is.
When companies turn to india, even just through consulting shops let alone inhouse, they immediately and permanently become pajeet caste bullshit politics shitshows where nothing ever gets done.

>>105679912
germoney is a shitshow. Come to the nordics instead.

>>105680281
i would but i dont have infinite money to start with and i dont know anything about oil/gas

>>105680291
I don't get it.

>>105679912
Who's the target audience? Balkan toilet scrubbers? Black and brown refugees? Unemployable American CS-degree incels just hoping for a chance to get out of Mom's basement for a little while?

>>105673921
unless you're a certified autist, which is like half the people here

feelsbadman

>>105680359
According to what I read it looks like it's mostly aimed at american toilet scrubbers, saudi oil prince- and poo in loo pasha's sons, since it requires a decent amount of cash saved up, is aimed at non-EU migrants, and applies to vocationals.

Where should I flee from Poortugal? Spain is just as fucked, in fact every med country seems to be. Am I going to have to go to Germany?

>send 50 applications throughout the previous week
>no replies even on Friday
>m-maybe they're off travelling for the weekend haha
>monday is now almost over and still zero replies
what the fuck is going on?
I've applied more than 200 times but each week is more and more disappointing

>>105680390
Why not? Germany is great actually.

>>105680394
Even in good markets you have to expect 2w response times. In this market you can expect no response even after 500 applications.

>>105680390
>>105680402
who the fuck is gonna want a foreigner in their tech company in Germany?
shit does NOT work, especially with these ass blasted stuck up germans
they only want native german speaking people, the rest they outsource to jeet or slav companies

>>105680411
fuck... you're right

>>105680402
Yeah I wouldn't mind at all if it's feasible. Do I have any chances if I only have 9 months of experience in it/development?
>>105680418
ok then WHERE

Also is it even real to look for a job before I move or will they just ignore me if I'm not already living there?

>>105680427
second reply anon here, idk desu shit's fucked
I applied to a couple of Czech and Polish companies, went through all technical interviews and they just told me they've moved on with other ppl
I think they just can't be fucked with the documentation required for hiring foreign niggas, like tax stuff, health insurance etc

>>105680320
theres not much of a joke. the nordic countries mostly make their money on energy, so even stuff not directly employed by an energy company or having to do with extraction will probably either adjacent to it, or pure service industry. and the cost of goods and living is very high so even if you have a good job, it's a bit of a sticker shock on top of the notoriously high taxes.

>>105680517
Only norway really makes money on oil. Sweden mostly makes drugs and cars when they're not busy making tech unicorns like spotify. Finland does forestry and metals, with alcohol and food on the side. Otherwise they invent things like Linux. Denmark is mining, transport and drigs, and finance unicorns.
They all have decent tech opportunities.
Prices are definitely higher than, say, portugal, but it's comparable to france while the pay is around 10-20% higher overall.

>>105673921
I would need so many waivers lmfao

>>105673921
My body is in shambles (multiple permannetly fucked joints). Not because od tradefaggotry, just because I'm the most unlucky person on earth.
I can't even wear ordinary backpacks, let alone loaded ones. Forget running, too.

>>105680603
maybe i will move to finland though and drive a clapped out car really fast in the woods and die whilst drinking pine spirits

>>105680790
Umm... BASED?

what are your plans if the tech sector gets completely wiped out?

>>105680984
Do something else.

>>105680987
like what

>>105680987
need a PhD in "something else" to get the job in 2025.

>>105680984
i would celebrate

>>105680984
Unironically though. How would you avoid getting trapped in the gravitating black hole of wageslavery?
If you don't have enough yoe / don't pivot fast enough you're fucked

>>105643946
>>105644245
>>105646924
>>105647524
Full Stack At Work 9 to 5, First Line Tech Support if I'm on call.

Also I just got off call with their HR. They actually want to pay me less than I used to get and they value me as a "junior developer". When asked how they decided that they said people with 1-2 years usually are junior, then I said that I have over 5 and they said "ohh we're just HR you were valued like this you can work for us for like a year and then we'll see maybe you're better than you were valued"

These "people" don't deserve to fucking breathe.

And no I'm not using full stack like a nigger, I actually have working experience with Angular, Vue, React and have also done backend both Monoliths with Java Durgasoft, Node and I also know Python, Bash. I worked as a sysadmin before.

I'm fuming.

>>105681226
it would be trivial for you to find a remote job if you know all that you claim. ycombinator startups will pay you 100k

>>105681226
*both monoliths and microservices
>>105681257
No, it's bad, because if I have a freelance contract I do not get any kind of help from the state. I need it to be an Italian contract regulated by the sate and under 34k euros so I don't get taxed to death.

Average salary in north Italy if it's not a big city like Torino and or Milan is like 24k-29k for a dev with a few years of experience.

>>105643201
Don't let work drive you insane.

>>105680984
learn a trade

starting to thnk i should just do programming purely as a hobby

>>105681299
It's not my job, that's fine. I don't exactly like it, but whatever.

>>105632077
living like a cockroach, until things get better

>>105632077
Sign up to die for Israel and you won't have to survive the great depression

>>105641527
my company started contract hiring indians to "support" our existing team (we somehow had trouble hiring when there's a fuck ton of people looking for work)
eventually after training these people half our team was laid off due to "lack of work" and they're looking to hire more jeets to backfill
i would say if your company starts hiring indians it definitely won't stop even if the quality is trash as long as they get paid pennies on the dollar it's worth it to the company's bottom line
start looking for new work

>>105681396
I gave up today, I managed to save enough money to stay comfortable for some time. I am going to work with my uncle in the laundry business, I like programming but I realised I can't do it for a living anymore after fifteen years in this field.

>>105681257
go be 0 yoe obless on reddit

>he doesn't already have a $10k MRR b2b SaaS vibe coded with cursor
ngmi

>>105680411
I hope the same's not true over here, there's only 1-2 per day that I can reasonably apply to in my area (not moving, they wouldn't pay for me to relocate anyway).

>>105682016
What country

>>105680984
Over here our government keeps a list of "in need" skills and updates it quarterly so something on there would be a safe bet.

>>105681226
>with Java Durgasoft
If I ever win the lotto and become a billionaire I'm commissioning a durgasoft framework.

>>105682032
Aus.
For reference, on our local indeed (seek.com.au) there are currently 357 "software developer" jobs (in the IT category) in a 50km radius and they list jobs for up to 30 days. From what I've seen there's an average of about 400 applicants per job too.
I'm not liking my odds.

>>105668294
got scheduled for a 30 min screening interview after passing the technical assessment
we are so back

>>105631468 (OP)
Nice girl

>>105682327
what did they ask in the assessment?

>>105682016
It's definitely different based on country, but everyone is feeling the difficulties in any case.

>>105682515
it wasn't a technical assessment in the traditional developer sense, it was a bunch of typical interview questions
one asked about the differences between b2b and b2c products, another asked about how I would approach designing software for non-technical users
there was also a whiteboard exercise where i was asked to provide feedback on an example design, with the design having a lot of obvious mistakes

>>105682051
I don't know where you are but we have that over here too and it's totally bogus. As usual it's a correlation-causation issue. Plus you have no guarantee it will still be in demand in 2 years when you're ready to get into an apprenticeship.
In any case typically the 'in demand' jobs don't pay enough to keep a roof over your head even after years of experience and actually have enough supply that they are gated by those currently in the profession

I'm becoming a rapper, done with trying to find a programming job, the rap game is calling. Bye everyone

Another day

>>105683119
Join me in becoming a rapper

>>105683101
TO THE WINDOOOOOW
TO THE WALL

>>105631468 (OP)
>got fired from my shitty pharmacy tech job a month ago
>got put on academic suspension after last fall and can't take classes at the same university until next spring
I've been relying on GPT for emotional support and to help me stay motivated to find work. Are there any entry-level jobs for incompetent retards like myself these days? I have no fucking idea what people who work in software even do, and from what I hear the difference between the actual work and the shit we are learning in school is like day and night. Pharmacy techs don't get paid shit, so it's not like I'm currently looking to make a lot of money. Just need a more hands-on way to be proactive.

>>105683101
Based
Let's make a /utwg/ band
Except it should clearly be metal or punk or something, more on-topic I think

>>105683201
pharmacy techs get paid more than 99% of devs
It's also 100x bigger brained even on the butt of all tech jokes: webshit.
Try becoming a trashman. Pays well, easy job, no brain needed.

>>105683228
>pharmacy techs get paid more than 99% of devs
No anon, they don't.

>>105683228
You're a moron, pharmacy techs get paid peanuts and they're basically retail workers who studied for 2 years
Get a grip

>>105683245
Yes, retard, they do

>>105683251
Pharm techs routinely make over 50/hour base without certification, more with. Even more as travel techs. There usually also is a monthly ot quarterly performance bonus scheme that can be quite hefty depending on conpany.
The average tech worker makes $38.46 an hour, required a 4 years degree and corresponding debt, works 10+ hours salaried (so that 38 an hour becomes 30.7), and has no bonus.

>>105683258
You're telling me that 99% of people working in software are making less than ~$40k USD annually? Somehow, I don't think that's true.

>>105683374
>$50 an hour
LOL WHAT

I think you mean *pharmacist*, anon. Not pharmacy tech. If I was making $50 an hour as a tech my life wouldn't be the fucked up mess that it is currently.

>>105683129
Sure I'll be lil' income
You can be MC gapped

>>105683394
No, I pharmacists make a lot more than that and have further upward mobility. I'm also not talking abput bumfuck nowwhere wages at 0 years of exp. That would be more like 20/hour. To compare to a fresh tech grad in a major non-bay metro, you must assume 4 years and no certification, or 4 years and cerrification to compare to a tech worker with a cert, in a corresponding non-bay metro. Just like tech workers can be stuck at 30-50k lifetime cap if they decide to work in hospitals and you would never use that figure to talk about tech wages, pharmacist tech wages in hospitals are comparable (in terms of positipn) to rech workers working in tech companies. Orherwise costco and walmart for instance is comparable to tech workers working in larger non-tech companies (mostly meaning crap pay). Othee confounsing factors must also be handled in similar ways. For example the workload of tech workers despite being salaried vs pharmacy techs which nevertheless are hourly.

This nigga ain't real

>>105683737
Takes a real nigger to know

>>105644477
Just heard back, I did not get the job

>>105683837
that should be your usual expectation

>>105683837
You're here forever

>>105683842
I know, I just thought that having an AAS in Cybersecurity and Sec+, CySA+, and CCNA with 3 IT/Cybersecurity internships I should be pretty fucking qualified for glorified helpdesk shit