I have a Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3. :3
>>105634741 (OP)hp zbook ultra g1a, 128 GB version
I have an old budget HP laptop from 2011 that was a hand-me-down from a relative. It's worn down and barely works now. I haven't used it in a long time, don't even know if it will turn on anymore.
Replaced it with an iPad a couple years ago.
im too poor to afford one but i like the look of the lenovo legion laptops.
>>105634741 (OP)Asus laptops have been the most consistently shit to run linux on in my experience, they basically only support windows and they go out of their way to exclude functionality from being able to be used in other OSs, and MSI have consistently had broken hinges and chassis in the two I've had, if you buy some laptop make sure the chassis is made out of aluminum or some other metal, at least if the hinge is glued and not carved into the metal, you'd be able to glue it again instead of trashing the whole assembly.
>>105634741 (OP)an asus zenbook with an oled panel exclusively for masturbation
>>105634806i personally think msi gets too much hate . theyre awesome
>>105634741 (OP)Framework Laptop 13. (Ryzen 7 7840U, 32GB, 1TB SSD)
Decided not to upgrade to the new Ryzen AI mainboards since the performance difference isn't that big.
>>105634836how is it? i am very interested in the framework products but too poor to buy anything new and the laptop i currently have is wonderful with zero issues.
I'm looking to get a MacBook Pro. I'm just about fed up with Windows and I've come to accept that the software I use will most likely never come to Linux so macOS feels like my only escape.
What's the MacBook Pro of PC laptops?
i have always only had intel laptops. im curious about ryzen laptops. do they have better battery life?
>>105634869Get the 16 inch one it has 99.6 watt battery, also official apple site sells refurbished, pretty much new one -$300.
>>105634879Razer Blade. The Asus Zephyrus G16s are starting to look like macbooks too
>>105634825They have great specs, linux support and speakers, but their chassis have been consistently made out of cheapo plastics that break in a year or two, yeah, they have great customer support here and they repair everything without asking, but it's honestly mindboggling they'd rather spend thousands per computer repairing it than making computers that will last at least 4 or 5 years of regular use.
The fact that I quite literally bought a 2kโฌ laptop entirely made out of aluminum, and the screen hinges had been made out of cheapo plastic that broke in two years should tell you everything you'd need to know.
>>105634942im no expert here but from what ive seen in terms of build quality are lenovo legions and asus zephyrus gaming laptops the best in terms of build quality? also maybe razer blades? obviously im asking about pcs here
>>105634843loud fans
the new battery is shit and will bloat after 2 years
the screen is great, but windows is fucking terrible with display scaling so images look like shit if you're not using 100% scaling
>>105634869I'm probably buying an m4 max tomorrow or the after, as the other anon said, in the refurbished I found a 14" one that went from 3950โฌ to 3290 with applel's "seal of quality", cheaper than third party stores, and with the keyboard in my country's layout.
what laptops are good for linux?
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>>105634924Excluding the hideous logo and gay RGB, it's a very beautiful laptop.
so whatever happened to these things? i thought people said they were gonna be like M chips for windows machines
>>105634972https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops
I guess that would be a place to start, but I'd imagine anything that runs an AMD CPU and GPU would run perfectly. Might have issues with Bluetooth or WiFi depending on what they use, but using Arch Linux should fix that.
>>105634992Marketing happened. They suck, Windows on ARM sucks, and x86 is still the best if you're not using Apple. ARM PCs are nothing like ARM Macs.
>>105635005will windows laptops ever be able to offer mac levels of battery life ?
>>105634843Don't buy anything new then if your current laptop satisfies your needs.
The framework I currently own is fine I guess, my only complaints are about speakers being mid and firmware updates rolling out very slowly. I use this laptop almost always plugged in so I don't care that much about battery life.
M1 Macbook Air
Great for everything other than games; but that's what I have my desktop, steam deck, and switch 2 for. I even but the Tahoe developer beta on it, it's been surprisingly stable for me.
>>105634992Their battery life is respectable, but Windows on Arm is terrible because Microsoft is terrible as usual. They indicated they would skip a generation and simply make mobile phone chips, but that's about a year away from a new chip. Those chips are also rather old, and they only made newer ones that are in the very affordable section aka weak.
>>105635021Not if they have Windows on it, no. Maybe if you load Linux on them.
>>105635021Some Windows laptops already exceed Mac levels of battery life. Lookup some Intel Lunar Lake laptops.
>>105634968>applel's "seal of quality"So they put a little piece of rubber on it to keep the GPU pressed to the board?
>>105635053But then you're stuck with even shittier performance and software than a Mac, which you're better off getting at that point.
>>105634741 (OP)>Dell Precision 7680 for work>Dell Latitude 5411 also for work>Dell Precision 7530 for personal use (stolen off work trash pile)>Dell Latitude 3450 (I think my wife got this off her work's trash pile)>Dell Inspiron 5570 (late father in law's laptop)>Dell Inspiron 1545 (no idea where this came from)I am Dell man.
>>105634968You don't need m4 max, if you seriously do 100% uptime heavy load you need mac studio with much better cooling also cheaper. Cheapest 16 inch m4 pro is the best option imho.
>>105635115>work trash pilebased, I have about 30 barrel chargers they were going to throw away because the new laptops use USB-C
I have several.
I am not explaining myself.
>>105635123The 7530 even has USB-C. It did have a completely dead battery but luckily Dell still stocked it.
If I want to edit videos do I need a discrete GPU on a laptop? Talking about windows here im not a fan of macs
>>105634741 (OP)Not an oled because I'm not a retard and want my display to last longer than 2 years. Oled is a TV only technology. No amount of coping and seething will change its inherent flaws and shit brightness.
>>105634869Sir, you appear to have a nigger in your display
>>105635159Big fish hat was a hit at my local uspsa match.
>>105635021There are a couple of ARM Windows laptops that do have battery life as good as Macbook.
Too bad you can't run a lot of things on it.
>>105634741 (OP)Framework 16. It's fine, but very "Alpha product"-y for the gimmick (repairability), especially when they turn around and give a fucking touch-screen to a 12 inch hybrid and don't backport touch-screen functions to the 16 (which DOES support one but doesn't have a part/replacement for the screen to enable it).
>>105634741 (OP)HP Victus with a 4060 that was 700$ new
Its not pretty but it works fine
Macbook Air M1 8GB/256GB
I just ordered a Macbook Air M4 32GB/512GB
>>105635100Shut the fuck up iToddler. Talking about "shittier software than a Mac" is comical.
Asus gz302e and Asus g733pz
i got a legion 5 pro during covid, it cost less than the equivalent desktop gpu and was actually able to be bought by just walking into a store
>>105635419Why so defensive, shill? ARM on Windows is not there yet at all.
x86 Windows > ARM Mac > x86 Mac >>> ARM Windows
>>105635666Lunar Lake isn't ARM you moron.
>>105635777I didn't say it's better than ARM Mac, stupid.
>>105635574>he actually rents video games in the Steam!>in the year 2025Just pirate PC video games in the Steam RIP website, you dumb Steamie! All of them are free and they have zero viruses! You don't have to install anything and you don't have to rely on seeders just to download anything from that website!
https://steamrip.com/
>>105635798That wasn't the point, iToddler cattle.
>>105634741 (OP)MSI GF65-Thin 9SEXR (i5 9300H, RTX 2060, 24GB RAM)
Thinkpad A485 (Ryzen 5 Pro 2500U, integrated GPU, 32GB RAM)
Thinkpad T480 (i5 8350U, integrated GPU, 64GB RAM)
>>105634741 (OP)X30
T42 Flexview x3
T60 14, 15inch
X200s
X200t
T400
P50
And a smol newer chinkpad.
T42s are easily my favorite desu.
I just open them up, admire the near bezelless 4:3 screen with impressive viewing angles, big keyboard, great chassis and wonder how they could produce hideous specbait with huge bezels only a decade later.
>pic
Also, why aren't there any premium 17inch windows ultrabooks in current year?
>>105635574how big is the one on the right hot damn
>>105635882Just use a search engine, you silly lazy boy! He literally said the names of both of his gaming laptops!
>>105635916im sorry, big dog
>>105634741 (OP)Latitude 7300
ultra slim ultra compact 13 inch beast with dual sodimm slots, the last of its kind. I'm quite happy with it
Thinkpad P14s Gen 5 AMD
Power bank is the new Power Bridge so the short battery life isn't a non-concern for me. It's very nice.
>>105634741 (OP)I got a deal on a used laptop with warranty.
Its a Legion 7 Pro with a 5900HX, 64GB of Ram and RTX 3080 16GB.
Only had to add an additional 2 TB SSD as it came with a 512 GB one.
>>105634741 (OP)2015 MacBook Pro i7. Might be upgrading to an M4 Pro soon.
>>105635614Thatโs not a laptop, thatโs a toy.
>>105636362>Holding on an Intel Mac with dual core processorYou got patience of a sant.
>>105636362>Holding on an Intel Mac with dual core processorYou got patience of a saint.
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>>105634741 (OP)Dell Inspiron 15 5576 that I bought 8 years ago.
I also have a 25 year old ThinkPad A20m, but it doesn't see much use these days
I have a few dozen laptops but the one I use the most is this L570 because it can play my anime blu rays
>>105634741 (OP)ThinkPad X13 Gen 2 with a 5850U
>>105636860I forgot to attach the picture, presume I did, and then deleted the picture off my phone and came back to find I never attached the picture
Anyway just imagine a boring L series kaby lake thinkpad playing angel beats in Ubuntu
>>105634741 (OP)Thinkpad X230 with upgraded 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD.
Acer Nitro V 15 with a 4050 because Iยดm broke. It has a pretty good performance for work and gaming
I have macbooks from
work. an old m1 for my side projects and an m4 48gb for work
absolutely based
i recently bought a gaming laptop and it was terrible so i returned it. an omen with 32gb ram and a 4070. fan noise up the wazoo. almost apple build quality though. shame
i stick to my desktop
>>105637285yeah gaming laptops kinda suck. they're either slim, have bad cooling, very noisy, and shit battery life, or they're bulky, have meh cooling, very noisy, and slightly less shit battery life. I barely use mine anymore, instead I just fell in love with my Thinkpads, which still are slim, but have good cooling, almost zero noise, and excellent battery life
what's the point of high end cpu and gpu if the chassis and hinges are plastic, much more the latter lmao
>>105634741 (OP)dell inspiron 3420, it's alright
>>105634741 (OP)Thinkpad P16 Generation 2
MacBook Pro, I think M3. It's more than enough for me and I can FaceTime my mommy. 99% of the time I'm on my windows PC though.
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>>105634741 (OP)I have a Thinkpad for weebs.
why does /v/ like thinkpads so much ?
>ctrl+f "tuxedo"
>no results
/g/ has fallen
MBP M1 Pro for work
Thinkpad X13 gen 2 for studying and personal use, obtained at a discount for 500โฌ
>>105637977They kind of just work and are generally a solid choice for productivity
Early 2011 13-inch MacBook Pro. The battery died years ago and I mainly use it for ripping CDs these days.
For work, I have an M2 Max 16-inch MacBook Pro.
However, most of my on-the-go personal computing is on an iPad Pro.
A two year old Lenovo Yoga slim something something.
It's got a Ryzen 7 7840u, 16GB of soldered ram, and I've upgraded the SSD to 4TB.
I really like the battery life, OLED screen and USB 4.0, I don't like the rest of it so much, the speakers in particular are generic bottom-firing crap, and the keyboard is very low-contrast in most lighting conditions.
Thinkpad L380 beater but I use laptops as laptops so on the move. Usb-c charging is so good, no need to cary brick anymore, can just use phone charger in the car.
I do wish it had ips screen.
Also trackpoint is great when it's hot/cold/wet and touchpad starts acting up, will never get laptop withouth it.
>>105637977sir this is /g/
/v/ uses gaming laptops
>>105634741 (OP)Macbook Pro 14'' with M1 Pro cpu
it just works, web development
>>105638581Comfy. How much ram/ssd? What's your web tech stack?
Thinkpad X1 Carbon 6th Gen.
Intel Core i7 8550U @ 1.80GHz
16GB DDR3
Intel UHD Graphics 620
This was my laptop at work for maybe 3 years, then they got me an upgrade and offered to sell this one to me for $120 so of course I took it.
an XPS 15 L521X that I got as a hand-me-down from my dad when he died
the palm rest plastic is absolute dog shit and is wearing down and sticky even when clean. considering silicon spray to make it better
otherwise it looks quite nice and specs are decent for a free laptop
just waiting to save up some money first for another laptop
>>105636267How short? I get around 9 hours with low brightness.
>>105635864>premium 17inch windows ultrabooksThere's plenty of taller 16:10 16inch ones and a few 18 inch ones
>>105634910can it run troonix instead of ijeet?
can it be had for under 600 dollars?
>>105634741 (OP)thinkpad Z13 running gentoo
>>105634757my sincerest condolences
>>105638639base model 16gb/1tb
unemployed right now
do you have Macbook or planning?
Thinkpad T480, i5-8250U, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD.
I'm running Arch + KDE
Very comfy.
Thinkpad P50, Xeon E3-1505M, 64gb ram, quadro M2000 4gb, 500gb boot SSD/2TB data SSD.
had it for at least 5 years now, still does everything i need it to. Most reliable laptop i've ever owned. Comfy as fuck.
>>105639378I have a base MBP M1 8/256 but it's not fit for work. Our code is shit and really brings it to its knees. I use it for personal projects just fine.
Using my upgraded T480 for work, but even that is having issues. Currently saving up for a M4, probably a MBP M4 16/512.
>>105634741 (OP)Tuxedo Gemini 17 gen2
>>105639607good choice
my coworkers had thinkpads and they were noisy, fans spinning full speed, MBP was silent
>>105639647based gemini enjoyer
I have the sirius
>>105640071when my laptop fan gets loud, I imagine that my laptop is thinking super hard.
>>105634924>razor bladeCRAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIN
aside from the cringeworthy branding the specs seem really nice, too bad it costs a kidney
>>105635117I will be using it to develop angular apps and run the ios and android emulators, which my m3 air struggles, and the most important thing for me, I'd be trying to game in it really hard, so the base 36gb 1tb m4 max seems the better option for me, and yes, I'm fully aware the 14" can't cool it properly, that's why I have the m4 pro in sight just in case.
>>105640384Isn't the 16' like 1k more expensive over the 14' for the same specs? Shit gets costly really fast if you upgrade it.
>>105640448That's why I didn't even consider it, and I already sold a 16" laptop to afford this, because I literally never used it more than for work, since it was so bulky and heavy to carry around.
Thinkpad x13 gen 3 (AMD), love this little thing, runs every emulator I want (only tried up to ps2)
>>105640384The difference between the Pro and Max is miniscule unless you need a faster GPU.
By game in it do you mean actual gaming? The experience will be terrible and you'd be better off with a second x86 computer for that.
>>105640858>you'd be better off with a second x86 computer for thatI already have a desktop computer with a real operating system on it, which probably blows the fuck out of anything applel can make, but I still can't have 10 different computers for every task, I literally have 5 laptops I barely use, I wouldn't buy another one I'd barely use too.
>>105634741 (OP)asus m16 11th gen i7
can't recommend
in fact why did i get a laptop i don't really go anywhere anyways
>>105634879galaxy book pro, if you are talking about the soldered ram + terrible price aspect.
some of you are so much poorer than i realized
>>105634741 (OP)any good CPU powerful laptop with nice design and screen?
i want one for game development and music production.
>>105637977because they never had an elitebook
>>105641598The macbook air with 24gb should do the job if you are not windows literate / linux-curious, AND you plan on only using game engines. You can use external nvme drives to expand the storage but it's not very portable.
If you want to spend top dollar for something very MID but power efficient and new, I would suggest the AMD AI max for like $2000+, they only offer the 395 ATM which is overpowered (and overpriced), but I would personally wait for when the 385 laptop comes out for a $500~ discount (only the framework minipc for $1000~ has it as far as I know).
However... a 4060 shit-top is like $800 and matches the AMD AI max. It's shit because the keyboard / trackpad / hinge / single nvme slot / gamer RGB lights, but it should have a 144hz display and ok specs, and you could just plug it into a $700-800 1440p OLED (QD-OLED has a purple tint in a bright room unless you spend extra for a monitor that tries to fix the purple tint?, WOLED is maybe better and I think there is going to be a $500 WOLED monitor coming out in the future).
The shit-tops really depend on whatever is on sale / stock at the moment, I probably would want to walk into a bestbuy and see the laptop in person (if they still do that).
>>105641598You won't find a laptop with a better battery life than the 16-inch MacBook Pro M4 from the official Apple refurbished site. Maybe Windows on Arm with a Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (X1E-80-100), but no model of that CPU has a 100-watt battery like the MacBook 16-inch; instead, they are all about 70.
>>105634741 (OP)Old ass 2012ish non-retina MBP, the last one truly built like a tank and readily serviceable and upgradable.
Still fukken truckin'. Even the original battery is only recently telling me it needs service and I still get a solid 4 hours out of it after 13 years of constant use lmao.
>>105634741 (OP)I have an ThinkPad X13 Gen 4 7540U 16GB coming in today unless the nigger delivery driver doesn't delivery it again.
I have a T16 7840U 32GB that I will be getting rid of because the keyboard is off-center due to the useless numpad.
Also the 7540U doesn't have AI NPU in it so that's good.
>tfw my macbook pro m4 pro is basically the perfect laptop except for being dogshit in the one main usecase I need a laptop for: 3D rendering
it's so painful because I don't want to use anything else but I'm forced to buy an overpriced gayming laptop since RTX renders 60x faster than any mac product on the market
>>105641935I would just rent a render farm at that point.
I do a lot of short water stuff for fun and if I really wanted the best caustics, I would prefer using the CPU renderer for path tracing, if I don't mind running for 8 hours...
>>105641935The most affordable Mac Studio M4 Max is available. Also, it's decent for 3D obv. not 5090 levels but check out YouTube benchmarks, regardless you can't do 3D rendering on a laptop because of the excessive load and the inability of every laptop to cool down you will just thermal throttle everything. Buy external gpu dock with whatever laptop supports it.
>>105634741 (OP)Caboose and Simmons!!
>>105634741 (OP)Ibm t60 with 3gb ram. 500gb ssd and an intel t7600.
Running linux mint
It just works.
>>105634956I know a few people with legion ones and they seem pretty well made
Good Linux support as well
My Lenovo yoga/IdeaPad slim 7 has been pretty good so far
>>105637262same brother
but mine has a 2050 lol
runs bf1 like soft butter
>>105634741 (OP)I have a laptop, a Samsung ATIV Book 2 from 2014, but I'm using it less and less, honestly my current main laptop is actually my Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 tablet. Is it a complete laptop replacement? Well, for me it almost is. Would I recommend it to anyone? No, just no way, its OS is much more limited even if nowadays they attempt to resemble traditional desktop OS more. It's much more compact and comfortable to use and take to places than a traditional laptop for me though, I love it, especially for art.
Auusda A146G that I got from a thrift store for $2 and has 0 issues.
>>105642283>It just works....very slowly.
t. fellow T60 appreciator
>>105635392How do you live off of 512GB of SSD
>>105634741 (OP)Adata xenia 15g(14700x/4070), how do I fully unlock the bios on this laptop btw? I can't access xmp.
>>105643430slick design . im mirin
>>105639255>ISO layoutEuropoor or Bong detected.
>>105634741 (OP)T480.
The touchpad is fucked up but I only use the nub anyway.
>>105642447Hello 2015 asus zenbook design lmao. Actually, no, the zenbook trackpad was still bigger.
>>105643340Not that guy, but I have a similar setup and the answer is that for storage I have my desktop.
The storage on the laptop is purely for personal projects / learning / experimenting.
>>105643340Pic related or NAS, it's all shrimple.
>>105640815Neat
Could probably even run modern games at medium settings desu
>>105634741 (OP)legion 7 with 3080 and chuwi minibook for light surfing since the legion 7 is about a mobile as a COPD patient
>>105634741 (OP)datamining thread. you are all so stupid.
>>105634741 (OP)Still rocking a Precision 7510 in the office and at home, along with a Thinkpad T420s + spare battery whenever I'm travelling.
>>105644457For what purpose?
>>105644431I was gonna say based until I noticed gnome
>>105634741 (OP)Razer blade 17 (2020)
I use it when i travel, still holds up really well. Only downside is battery dies in under an hour.
I'm still using an old x201 for most things. I've tried newer models, but I fucking loathe the ergonomics of modern laptops, especially the dogshit island style keyboards.
>>105644929For what purpose?
I really want to buy an M4 MacBook Air. I have an M1 16 GB Pro so Iโm not sure if it would be a frivolous purchase.
>>105645716it's good buy it
An asus with a 960m that completely died all of a sudden
I mainly use a Lenovo Yoga C940 that I've had since 2020, currently typing this on a Thinkpad T440 that I "creatively borrowed" from the stack of old laptops in the supply closet at my job
>>105634786Off topic but I also recently got an ipad. How do you if at all browse the web with it?
None of the browsers have proper extensions.
>>105636267You can buy the 57Wh battery from the Gen 6 and swap it in, works on my T14 Gen 5.
I think I already told you this in /tpg/ (thank god it's gone forever).
>>105644857Kinda sad desu.
>>105646114I like how the 2022 6000 series Ryzen Rembrandt chips still get better battery life than the latest Strix Point chips despite being 6nm and not having efficiency cores.
Shit is insane.
i will not not buy your laptop
>>105638067>>105639303>>105640125You boys are so cute and silly! :3
Razer Blade 16" QHD+ 240Hz (LCD SUPREMACY FUCK OLED) 2023 | GTX 4070 | 96GB RAM 5600MT | 4TB SN850X
>>105634741 (OP)M2 MacBook Pro 16โ
M1 MBP 14โ for work
7700X/4070TI desktop for gayming
>>105646240just remap it back to r-ctrl
>>105646372>(LCD SUPREMACY FUCK OLED)My nigga!
AMOLED/OLED displays are objectively shitty because they're susceptible to getting burn-in issues!
>>105646396>he doesn't use a laptop for gaming!>in the year 2025Tsk tsk!
>>105646599tranime shitposter begone
>>105646240Isn't that just the right click key when copilot isn't on?
>>105634741 (OP)M3 Air
15in
24GB RAM
>>105646599>AMOLED/OLED displays are objectively shitty because they're susceptible to getting burn-in issues!Meant to attach this with muh webm but oh well.
Yes, try convincing the retarded techspace of this. They cope and seethe about muh blacks but brightness and longevity supercede muh blacks. They're all in denial and suffering from chronic buyer's remorse. OLEDs are for TVs.
>>105646608Leave the based tranime shitposter alone!
Anyone use a docking station?
Mid 2012 MacBook Pro Retina with open core to run latest OS. Still play wow on it. Retail and classic. What a beast of a machine. Cannot believe itโs still lasting. Replaced the 250gig stick to 1 TB from Amazon.
>>105634968love my 16" m3 max you wont regret it, m4 max studio is $1700 from microcenter fwiw
>>105635074its so you still get apple care
>>105640384>>105640448the 16 has better cooling but if you get a fan monitor app like TG Pro you can set it so the fans turn on if the highest GPU or CPU gets above 59C
I set it to 53% so the RPM is 3600 and quiet vs waiting for it to hit 100c over and over and 5000+rpm
RE4 remake doesnt go over 80C
>>105634741 (OP)dual core mac air equivalent from 2017. i'm quite happy with it other than the viewport in 3D stuff is a little laggy
>>105639647damn, is that a promotional image that has blender on the screen?
based beyond belief
>>105641870their refurb store seems bizarre as the 16" m3 pro is about $120 less than a new 16" m4 pro, at least where i live
>>105641935how is it for non rendering tasks in 3D, like rigging, texturing, modelling etc
>>105648427>how is it for non rendering tasks in 3D, like rigging, texturing, modelling etcI could do that with a $300 dual core e-waste from a decade ago just as well. Only the rendering part is problematic.
>>105648658why do you say something really stupid about a topic you clearly don't work in?
>>105648722Likewise
Macbook from a decade ago has the same spec
>tfw my laptop is probably older than some of the zoomers reading this
ngl, being a boomer is great, wagmi
toshiba bros where are you?
going stron since 2012, these thing were build to last forever.
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This one. Got it free from government. Works fine
>>105648427>damn, is that a promotional image that has blender on the screen?Yeah. Tuxedo is Linux/FOSS-first manufacturer. That's why I got it. My employer wanted me to get something that will have good Linux compatibility and so I suggested them. It had pretty good price too. The only downsides is how loud it is and short battery life span. But both are not issues for me since I just wanted a portable, powerful machine to use at home and sometimes at office.