nah we'll skip past Mars and become dimension-hoppers

space is a meme

it's no coincidence that our universe is structured so that life on one planet will never meet life on another

space is a distraction

>>105639669 (OP)
why doesnt elon hire some 200 IQ software devs to fix this problem? i think all of this could be solved by using the right javascript framework and optimizing algorithms for o(n) or whatever.

>>105639734
Not enough H1Bs saar. Need to open US borders to hire the best of human capital talents.

>>105639734
I hate that this site has made me so jaded that I cant tell if this is a shitpost
even through excriment the very concept of a shitpost has been stolen from us.

>>105639753
yes thats a good point. a team of h1b indians using the power of AI could fix this, its just a matter of crafting the right prompt.
>GROK SAAAR HOW TO FIX THE EXPLODINGS OF ROCKET

>>105639764
if you think about it, why isnt this an ideal scenario for AI? we've already launched rockets that don't explode. so why can't we train grok on rockets not exploding and then have it solve this problem.?

>>105639669 (OP)
>Will We Ever Go To Mars?
we've been to mars with robots, found very little of anything. physical presence of humans there changes nothing.

>>105639734
> software devs
> fixing engineering problems
100% pure retardation. are your mother and father blood relatives by any chance? brother and sister?
>>105639785
>why can't we teach large language models (literally digital parrots) complex engineering problems?
memeshit ai isn't magical or that good. you need to create entirely new models focused on one subject. and even then it can't solve complex engineering problems. if it could, it would have been utilized by now. even the people that created llm slop know its severe limitations. i know of its limitations. rest of society has no fucking idea.

>>105639669 (OP)
Look around you anon. We're steadily sliding into the most boring kind on cyberpunk dystopia imaginable. Wars are breaking out, prices for basic groceries are skyrocketing, diseases are causing global warnings and lockdowns, cancer rates are rising, surveillance is ever present, people are factionalizing into tribes, cheap immigrant labor is gradually replacing most jobs, and machines are gradually replacing the rest, all that while global birthrtates are falling
We're not going to Mars.

>>105639823
yeah but if you create those new models then AI intelligence would surpass our own. so it seems like the juice is worth the squeeze? this 1 rocket exploding costs like $100M and surely the model would cost less than $100M to train.

>>105639845
>yeah but if you create those new models then AI intelligence would surpass our own. so
no, it doesn't work like that. humans created the data, it supplements our intelligence. it created nothing and is literal retard. it's only good at finding patterns in things in vast amounts of data us humans created because we can't get through it quickly enough to find whatever we need.

>>105639861
yeah but humans created data that launched space ships that dont explode. so even if it doesnt surpass our intelligence surely it would be able to make space x rockets not explode? because we already have rockets that dont explode. just train the AI on that.

>>105639669 (OP)
not technology, leave the space shit to >>>/sci/sfg/

>>105639669 (OP)
Tesla: Snake Oil
((((Space))))-X: A fucking joke
Booring Company: Snake Oil
Hyperloop: Snake Oil

Buying tesla stocks is an low IQ indicator.


Where is my working solid state battery ?

>>105639925
>((((Space))))-X
>posts a pic of musk doing "the salute"
eh

>>105639925
>>Where is my working solid state battery ?
never going to happen. tesla are only good at buying batteries made by other people, slapping their gay logo on it and stuffing them into garbage vehicles.

We can't even go to the moon, let alone Mars.

>>105639925
>Buying tesla stocks is an low IQ indicator.
Why? Sure morons buy it but if a lot of morons buy it it will go up and in that case smart people will buy it as well

>>105639947
maybe you can't
the rest of us love going to the moon

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b39mzyt4Qyc
put the chips in

>>105639669 (OP)
did jewtubers already make videos about how this is a good thing actually?

Can we fix Earth first? Please.

>>105639952
You'll never see a manned lunar mission in your lifetime.

>>105639983
It's already over.

>>105639986
Why would anyone want another manned lunar mission?

>>105639925
It's funny how company value and stock value have no connection whatsoever despite that being the whole point.

>>105639998
Stock value = company value ≠ company earnings.

>>105639669 (OP)
mashallah

>>105639874
AI can't invent

>>105639925
Don't forget his solar rooftiles company, that is now basically defunct. He imported Chinese solar panels and marketed them as his own, but tariffs fucked him out of a business.

>>105639669 (OP)
The Soviets gave up after the fourth.

>>105639669 (OP)
Nice, in one second this explosion has emitted more emission than my car does in a whole year.

>>105639669 (OP)
whats the point of these news?
thats how tests are done.
They destroyed over 200 V-2s in tests before they sent the first rocket into space in 1944

>>105640085
saar you need to stop eating meat because cow farts and stop driving cars because emissions

it's okay if elon's rockets constantly explode and for celebs to fly on private jets with 5 people onboard a 200+ seat jet tho

>>105639669 (OP)
>Yes that big beautiful rocket of Elon outside, do you see it?
>Yes sir
>I want you to blow it up.
>But, sir ...
>No buts! I want a nice beautiful explosion. I want the biggest most beautiful rockets explosion you can deliver. I want Elon to know that we have the most beautiful explosions in America, folks

XAXXAAXAXXAXAAXAXAXAXAXXAAXXAXAAX BUT WE WUZ TOTALLY ON THE MOON LOST TECHNOLOGY JUST WAIT FOR THE RTX KILL YOURSELF 9999 SO WE CAN RENDER CONVINCING FOOTAGE FOR CATTLE!!!

>>105639669 (OP)
No, it's just a distant goal to drain money from NASA budget for the rest of Elon's life

>>105640152
lol

>>105640038
They also caught on fire because he couldn't properly install them.

Also don't forget that Paypal is a success DESPITE him, not BECAUSE of him.

>>105640336
paypal is cancer

>>105639669 (OP)
No. All the SpaceX missions are for Musk to pivot to monopolizing internet via satellites. He's done that now with Starlink thus he needs another grift. IDK if y'all have been into the news lately but rockets are being fired in the Middle East rn. Its going to be a long ass conflict between Israel and Iran and Musk will pivot again to provide rocket tech to the US with all that knowledge/technicalities they have learned making their own rockets. Its that easy and predictable.

>>105640368
insanely retarded post

>>105640379
shutup musk fanboy, no man will ever step foot in Martian soil.

>>105640396
t. mars

>>105639669 (OP)
If we finally put our foot down and stop paying for browns to breed like locusts, yes.

>>105640416
>breed like locusts
USA, the most brown white country statistically has lower birthrate than Georgia which is over 99% white. Race != birthrate

>>105640396
there isn't even a point in it. mars is a waste of time. its atmosphere/higher gravity actually complicates economic exploitation because the drag will make it more expensive to launch materials harvested from it. while it's also not enough to solve the fundamental problems of 0g/breathable air/no magnetic field. purely a hindrance at that point. and it always will be. The moon has the same function as a collector of asteroids while being far closer. by the time we exhaust lunar resources we'll have far better options than mars.


>BBBBUT THE INDOMITABLE SPIRIT OF MAN
yes that got us to the moon, we fucked around on it for a few years then never went back because with the technology of the day it was pointless. that's also not what elon's ketamine induced godhood delusion is. If you just wanted a man on mars that could have been done with technology we had years ago. it didn't happen because the price tag has always been too high.

>>105640506
>he thinks we went to the moon

>>105639669 (OP)
at this rate? no.
hard problems demand significant government involvement and we're at the limit of simplicity.

>>105639669 (OP)
greetings from fontaine.

>>105639669 (OP)
May as well just shoot yourself in the head than sign up for a "trip to mars" where you die of solar radiation within a week of being in space. If you think this is a serious idea on the table and not a marketing gimmick, you're retarded

>>105639947
we don't go to the moon because the moon is an artificially created hollow object. It carries secrets they don't want us to know.

>>105639669 (OP)
Unless China does it, probably not. The US space program is in shambles, so is Russia's. EU never had a clue.

>>105640612
Literally everything Musk ever did is steal from Roscosmos

>>105640561
The first part I'll say may be true. The second part is undeniably true.

>>105639669 (OP)
Who's "we"? If you mean humanity then yes, absolutely. As long as we don't wipe ourselves out with nukes first, someone will eventually walk on mars.
I don't know if it'll be on one of Musk's ships, but that seems like as good a bet as any despite the occasional catastrophic explosion.

>>105640618
Lol Roscosmos flies on a fucking rocket from Gagarin era with some minor upgrades. The only thing he stole is fucking N1 concept with 30+ engines hoping it will fly this time

>>105640106
Also don't forget to live in tze pod, use ONLY digital currencies since cash money is made with dead trees, eat onions milk to let cows be wild and free in the nature and change your electric vehicle every 5 years to save the planet!

>>105641829
> onions milks
onions milk*

wait until EDS patients find out how many rockets blew up getting to the moon

>>105639669 (OP)
someone needs to add this audio track to the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXsQbKQyfFA

>>105639998
it happens to anything that can be traded/exchanged in that way
it happened to crypto, which stopped being about decentralized currency and just ended up as another investment asset
it happened to commodities
it happened to futures
finance workers in pursuit of pure profit and economists in pursuit of a "perfect market" turn actual markets based on products with real value into abstracted money exchanges that become distanced to what they were originally based on

>>105642348

>>105639932
Remember that watermelons are anti-Semitic, goy.

>>105642419
at last I see

>>105640336
>Also don't forget that Paypal is a success DESPITE him, not BECAUSE of him.
He's not associated with PayPal. PayPal was a real company with a real, working service that bought out his startup X.com. Musk wormed his way into becoming the CEO of the company in the merger, but everyone immediately realized that he was a retard and put Peter Thiel back in charge of the company a week later. He larps as if he created PayPal, but all he did was make a shitty clone that didn't work, get bought out, and then almost immediately get fired.

>>105642452
Everyone can see ebay-paypal merge documents on the sec website, bro.

>erm actually we never went back because there was nothing to study there
>no actually we didn't go back cause we lost the technology teehee
>WE WENT TO THE MOON YOU FUCKING CHUD WHAT I BET YOU THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT TOO DONT YOU FUCKING CHUD WE WILL GO TO MARS TOO

>>105642548
>We lost the technology to go to the moon when Saturn V was retired
>SLS is a dead end because it uses space shuttle-era tech
Take a shot at reconciling these opinions, I'd love to read your cope.

>>105639845
>but if you create those new models then AI intelligence would surpass our own
There's no way to create superhuman AI that is benevolent. Once it's smarter than you then you have no way of knowing what it's going to do or whether it's telling the truth about anything.
But it's not even a problem because nobody knows how to create superhuman AI except in very narrow specializations like calculators or being faster at decision making.

>>105639669 (OP)
why the fuck would you wanna go to mars? people haven't even tried to terraform the sahara desert and you want to go to mars. and you ain't going to mars anyway, only rich fucks are so they can mine rare minerals and get even richer.

if you sleep in a lead coffin in a pool of water you might live long enough to see mars before you die of cancer

>>105639925
>((((Space))))-X: A fucking joke
They do falcon 9 and heavy launches like machine gun fire now. They've outperformed every competitor.
Tesla is fine, I don't care for electric cars, I don't like the batteries either.
Boring/hyperloop is pretty shit tho. I'm pretty sure it was a scam to develop drilling technologies for elons stretch goal of building underground housing on mars.

>>105642548
Why does losing technology seem unrealistic to a lot of people? Science and engineering are two different things. Unless society collapses, we will always have the science to produce a CRT screen, but soon you will need a lot of R^D and engineering if you want to start producing them again. You will need to make sure the colors look right, no weird fuckery happens with the electronics, etc.

>>105643718
meant to say R&D

>>105643682
the tunnel was a good idea if he could do it cheap, but should be filled with busses or some kind of trains (private tesla metro)
would make his money back in LA easily

>>105642400
>>105642348
these are both, simultaneously true.

>>105643682
>I'm pretty sure it was a scam to develop drilling technologies for elons stretch goal of building underground housing on mars.
Wouldn't say that's really a scam
Pretty smart if you can make some money on tech that's in development for another goal.

If they scaled their TBM, it would actually be super competitive.

>>105639669 (OP)
>Just months before the disastrous explosion, SpaceX reported that they were developing their new rocket-controller software in Rust.
>Elon Musk has refused to answer any questions concerning whether this played a role in the catastrophe.

>>105644673
arisu never said this

>>105639983
No, we'll leave all the shitskins here. The galaxy belongs to the White man.

>>105640038
You made me laugh because I just realized he worked for Trump but Trump screwed him a lot like tariffs and then Electric car subsidies being taken away. Then again Elon kinda screwed Trump too by doing that idiotic salute and then pissing millions of people off when all he wanted was some dude to close all the loopholes and save him 1 trillion.

>>105639837
Corporations are about to get their own currencies too which is wildly retarded (stablecoins).

>>105639669 (OP)

you can't exit the earths stratosphere you dumb niggers
you can float around but you will ever ever fucking EVER leave it
fuck you and your shitty robots with fake images on some planet
the moon landing was fake as shit
I bet you believe elon's rockets can land backwards they can't and never will for that to happen you need engines all around your fucking rocket to balance the gravity it's impossible it will fall like a chopped wooden log right on your small chimpanzee brain

lol

>>105639669 (OP)
that last sentence screams gay nigger faggot. why even say that? that's obvious

>>105643718
We obviously didn't lose the technology though, see >>105642651. Just because we couldn't have built a brand new Saturn V in the 1980s doesn't mean we couldn't have gone to the moon again within a year or two of deciding we wanted to. Technology only gets "lost" in the sense that it generally makes more sense to go forwards than backwards.

>>105639669 (OP)
no. spacefags are delusions if they think this shit will ever be safe enough for normies to use. all it takes is a rocket with 50 tourists onboard to explode and it's gg.

>>105639754
death to software as a service?

>>105639669 (OP)
>ever
probably
>in our lifetimes
less likely, but the operation isn't fucked because of one rocket exploding in testing, it's fucked because the man behind it has such a big head he can't fit into his cybatruck no mores

>>105639669 (OP)
We need a revolution in propulsion technology for that be remotely feasible.

>>105643718
Well, people don't work of factories anymore so they don't understand, western world simply can't produce fucking 155mm shells, stinger missles and many other shit from cold war era. And relaunching the production takes years, with an insane percentage of production defects

>>105640396
of course I will and she cant stop me

It's great that we're wasting the limited resources we have available on our planet on braindead ideas like going to Mars.

>>105648394
The US is currently making half a million 155mm shells a year and that's expected to double soon. Europe makes close to a million a year already. They're all higher quality than the 152mm shells Russia is forced to buy from North Korea.

>>105643718
>>105642651
After the pandemic and seeing just how hell bent our government was on squashing any and all dissenting opinions regarding its origins and the vaccine being safe itself has led me to believe a lot of our history really lacks context and that there's a good chance we never actually went to the moon and it was all theater simply to solidify in the history books that America and capitalism won the space race and beat the opposing ideology of the ussr and communism. Same with the modern day examples of the Mars rover and pictures of its surface. I know a lot of reddititors treat science as this infallible never wrong quasi religion now but I just simply don't trust our government to tell the truth regarding space. Besides to have the tech to go to Mars and set up any kind of colony is impossible, I feel too many scientific people have drank the coolaid and think that star trek age tech is possible and planetary colonization is possible when it really isn't

>>105639925
>((((Space))))-X: A fucking joke
do you know that last year spacex accounted for roughly 80% of ALL space lunches? (both by weight and count)

>>105648856
Yeah, about that

>>105649009
shouldn't have done the salute, stupid ass goy

>>105639764
Can you imagine a movie in the future where the entire plot is about crafting the perfect prompt

>>105642348
So many such cases.

>>105639669 (OP)
100% sabotage. The left pushed for diversity and shit, now the US is losing all technological advantages.

>>105649058

>>105639669 (OP)
the idea that these ships will ever be safe enough for human travel is a lie
mars being sold to people as a potential earth-like planet is another lie, humans will only ever be able to live underground or in enclosed habitats
whole thing is just one colossal waste of time and money

lol

just go to any elevator and go to the Spa

>>105642348
>US government
>35 Trillion in debt from blowing up rockets and taxing trumps lard filled ass + private motorcade to and from his golf course every other day

>>105646132
You seriously underestimate how much time and money designing a rocket that can bring that much weight to the moon, as well as all the other technology for a moon mission, takes.

Between 2011 and 2022 the US didn't have a rocket powerful enough for a space mission. Now they do, but it's still not as easy as putting some hobos in scuba gear and launching them there.

>>105653769
moon mission*

>>105639669 (OP)
You faggots are literally like the proles in Ayn Rand novels. Do you do nothing all day but celebrate the "failures" of people infinitely more successful than yourself?

we will be lucky if china allows us to go to their red planet.

>>105655069
>Rand ended up broke and asking social security for help
Yes.

>>105642548
Why do moon landing deniers act like there was one landing? We went back, five times.

>>105656676
Kubrick made all those films.

>>105655069
Fantasy novels in which the ideologue author is able to make everyone do exactly what she wants them to do to prove her ideology "correct" is not a very good way to figure out actual reality.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mMK5ErfXr2s

>>105657028
Is real life a fantasy novel? Cause I was commenting on the observed behavior of people

>>105657242
Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality. Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see.

>>105657242
Then why mention Ayn Rand's novel if it had no bearing on your point?

>>105657819
As a cultural touchstone so you can quickly infer what set of behaviors I am referring to (if you can read that is)

>>105639669 (OP)
kill yourself thunderf00t

>>105653769
No, you misunderstand what's possible when an entire country decides to do a thing and damn the costs. There was 8 years between the very first time the US put a man into space and landing a man on the moon. The only reason SLS took so long is because it was an expensive project done on a slim budget. With a Space Race budget, the moon was never more than two years away. There just hasn't been that kind of money devoted to space projects because no one cares enough.

>>105639764
Big mistake that could lead to errors, the solve is E = AI + mc^2

>>105639669 (OP)
Space is fake and gay. People have never left this gay clown planet and never will. Get over it, tranny.

>>105639669 (OP)
>controlled. safe.
so this retard doesn't know why he's doing a static fire test

>>105655069
Rand was a jewish ugly whore lol. Just like Marx.

>>105639785
>if you think about it, why isnt this an ideal scenario for AI?
AI isn't capable of inventing new, novel solutions. All it can do is apply existing solutions to new problems at an impressive rate in hopes that the old solutions are the answer to the new problems, and if it's not, then it starts to hallucinate.

>>105639925
Yikes breh. Go back to plebbit.

>>105658788
You sound mad, hoe. Did something somehow buck-break you?

>>105648759
I think it’s more that if you believe the science then there’s not really a way to sustain the earth as society currently exists and your only option is spread like a virus to other planets instead of dying on a toxic wasteland

>>105657837
cope

>>105639845
>yeah but if you create those new models then AI intelligence would surpass our own.
llm can't produce intelligence.
>so it seems like the juice is worth the squeeze?
>j-j-j-just give me 7 trillions brooooos
>this 1 rocket exploding costs like $100M and surely the model would cost less than $100M to train.
and the next iteration will fly just fine, we don't need retarded chatbot for webdevs.
>>105639874
llm can't create
>>105639983
the only rational answer is doing both at the same time.
space r&d contributes so much to everyday life that it would be a mistake to cut funds for space programs.
>>105640368
>All the SpaceX missions are for Musk to pivot to monopolizing internet via satellites
only a fucking moron would do that as satelite internet will never beat fiber except during fucking war time maybe.
musk would be a trillionaire already if he had focused on building a rail network across the US
>>105642651
technology is lost as in people fucking retire/move on and manufacturers upgrade their tools so things can't be done the same way as before hence the need to start from scratch, as simple as.
tech is "lost" all the fucking time everywhere, if you had actually worked in a engineering dept you would know that, fucking retard.
>>105643718
manufacturing is foreign to most people in the service era, they don't understand how the supply-chain works and it's incredibly sad

Other SpaceX supporters are starting to realize that for the past six months, basically, they haven't been able to test any of the milestone goals they've been trying to do.
Re-lighting Raptor in space.
Improved heat shield tiles.
Payload deploy.
They've got tests to do that are blocking further tests, which they have to do before more tests that will then allow them to start using it to deploy Starlinks and validate the Starship Moon Lander.
Move fast and break things is sexy when there is visible progress with each iteration, but it looks like they've gotten stuck in a rut, and worse it's immediately when introducing the Block 2 design, which is the basis of the Block 3. Even if they scrap Block 2 and move to Block 3 there's no telling how many inherited problems they'll still have to deal with, in addition to whatever problems the Block 3 design may introduce itself.

>>105639669 (OP)
We'll go to Mars, but never live there
Living there would wreck your health
Being born there would make you an invalid if you ever returned to Earth

>>105639669 (OP)
Better kino, than sending some dickheads to Mars.

>>105639932
>literally one of the biggest supporter of Bibi

Even ignoring the fact that Musk said we'd have human on Mars in 2020.

He's still projecting to be sending Starships to Mars next year, and multiple Starships in space doing refueling, and on the moon.

This is despite there NEVER having been a Starship being launched out of orbit, nor both parts being successfully recovered and reused, or sending a payout into space. It couldn't even doing a static fire test without exploding, destroying the launch pad and fuel depots.

what happened to the company which made Falcon 9 which is objectively speaking the cheapest and most reliable launch vehicle to have ever been created?

>>105660863
He should send India engineers since they are so great. Plus they will shit everywhere and fertilize Mars for us.

>>105660900
Maybe building larger engines instead of slapping together +30 "small" raptor engines could decrease the chance of failure.

>>105660952
On paper the idea makes sense, it's easier, faster and cheaper to mass produce small engines compared to large engines, a lot of smaller engines means if 1 or 2 fail the rest of the engines can pick up the slack with minimal demerits, and also that's literally the strategy they used with Falcon 9 and it's wildly successful.

>>105660952
I'm not a rocket scientist but my understanding is they need the large number of smaller engines instead of just a couple of large ones because engines can only throttle down so much before they become unstable. In order to be able to land, they need to be able to reduce thrust to a very low level as it approaches the ground. That's not possible with four or five large engines but is doable with 30 something small engines since they can just shut most of them off.

>>105660952
>>105661004
>>105661027
Raptor is damn near equivalent to the SSME in thrust.
Beyond the fact it fits on a pallet, its not a small engine in performance.

>>105639932
ADL came out very quickly saying "the salute" was not antisemitic and they never pass up a chance to call someone a Nazi. You should wonder why they gave Musk such an easy pass.

>>105639669 (OP)
they need to come up with something thats not flammable or no where near as flammable. Same with planes and fuel.

>>105660900
lol

>>105639669 (OP)
Mars is just a star in the firmament. It's not a planet in space.

>>105662566
tru

>>105639925
>Tesla: Snake Oil
He was the first man that made electric cars look good. Before him, every car company just selected the most homosexual designer, who hated cars with passion, and ended up with a prototype that included glory holes in the windscreen and an electric pride flag pole instead of a motor.
Literally became the richest person in the world because of this.
>((((Space))))-X: A fucking joke
NASA can't do shit nowadays. It was a matter of time before privateers became the only way for America to reach space.
>Booring Company: Snake Oil
Their tech is actually good. But building anything in the US is almost impossible. And most of the first world don't need tunnels because they already have a well-developed infrastructure and their population is decreasing...
>Hyperloop: Snake Oil
Yes. A sad truth.

>Where is my working solid state battery ?
China is the only country building them, and as far as I know, they are not commercially available yet. The CCP are buying them all to use as short-time power banks for their giant solar farms. But I don't see how Musk has anything to do with this.

>>105639669 (OP)
This only a couple weeks after he showed up to the White House on drugs with a black eye, and then randomly got into some emotional spat with Trump. Is he fighting with his Israeli handlers or something?

>>105664595
they tried to circumcise him.

>>105664595
The Epstein files are Mars, they won't let him retrieve them.

>>105662566
>ruins your theology

>>105664362
>richest person in the world

fake

>>105639754
>I hate that this site has made me so jaded that I cant tell if this is a shitpost
anon you're just a silly baka. this site has nothing to do with it

Bitch we can't even make it to the moon and you're wondering why we can't do Mars?

it's joever