/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Koishi Edition

>News
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
Claude 4 Sonnet and Opus released with 1h caching https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Previous: >>105635398

ANCHOR

We are merging.
Move to:
>>>/vg/527942813
>>>/vg/527942813
>>>/vg/527942813

Please post that other picture of her with big tits. I need to goon to this slut again.

[insert completely unnecessary desufag ritual post here]

>>105640517
why would she do this

desu

We are merging.
Move to:
>>>/vg/527942813
>>>/vg/527942813
>>>/vg/527942813

>>105640517
why are you stealing from /ldg/

>>105640526
>>105640296
>>105640259
same desu

>>105640558
>/ldg/
because being an aicgtard I can't create anything of quality myself

>>105640565
>an aicgtard
but you're a /v/ermin outsider obsessed with AI generals

>>105640585
no i'm not (true)

How do I make it so nested asterisks don't break the formatting? *a *b* c* appears like that and without italics.

>you won't bake shit
>baked shit

>>105640621
Ask in /vg/

>>105640517
Which iconic character is that second from the left? I'm sure she has a deeply entrenched association with 4chan culture, right?

>>105640621
we have already merged little bro, now the quality posting is there

>>105640512
Not that one, but it'll do. Thank you.

>>105640621
_a *b* c_
but, really... use case for nested asterisk word?

>>105640645
racist fox

If you think about it in a satirical parody way this sequence of events has been hilarious

What's the next thing after COPEILOT death?

>>105640670
That's Averi doe?

>>105640694
yes and she was supposed to be averi

>>105640693
Moving to /vg/

My chutes aren't chuting.

>>105640621
just remove all italics outside of quotes lil bro

/(["“”][^"“”]*["“”])|\*+/g replace with $1

Copilot bros... It's fucking over. After 6 months of constant free cooming

>>>/mlp/42281699
>some malicious retard from /g/ must have learned how to rocket jump recently
Why is this thread like this?

>>105641102
Well – there're aplenty of alternatives of sites/services to leech onto. Your'e scriptchad, right?

>>105641145
No lol I'll become a paypig

>>105641123
>Retard gets shit keys
>blames us for no reason

>>105641123
why are you fucking ponies

>we are this dead
Did we really merge?

doublebotbros r comfy we should all kill that next

>>105641123
>skillgod finally refills keys for claude on openrouter
what does this even mean?

>>105641174
The guy that has the sans boss fight proxy also has one for claude but you have to do a TF2 rocket jump map to get access

>>105641174
it means that he found 2-3 keys with like 5$ in them and now he's crying that they died in 3 prompts

>>105641153
…
*hides post*

>>105641174
Skillgod refilled with shit keys that died fast.
Retard can't understand that and needs a villain.
Even in their thread, someone told him he was retarded.

>>105641194
>>105641186
fucking kek, he operates a proxy on shit openrouter keys? lmao thats just so pathetic

Cache question: Let's say I have cached 1024 tokens (allowed minimum) + assistant and my message that wasn't cached before (256 tokens) - now assuming cache hit 1024 token are counted with the cheaper price while 256 tokens for the higher (to save it into cache) and then cache is saved again with 1280 tokens (both cache from before and the new one)? Or it doesn't work like that and there's no point in allowing cache that early, but then there's no option of caching from specific token amount in ST (at least I didn't found it)... Sorry, too dumb to understand this

>>105641102
it still works though

We're the fastest thread in /g/.

dead website

>>105641123
It's not the thread, it's just one horsefucker who doesn't know how proxies work.

flamesong

>>105640436
Inside a perpetually frozen world, one person holds the key to dethawing it: Flamhilde! And of course, as her CHILDHOOD FRIEND™, you have to go with her! (...unless?) Join her on an adventure through the deadly snows, exploring forests, caves, snowfields (surrounded by forests), LAVA caves and more in search for the Mirage Tower and the Frozen Heart inside! Watch her magical prowess grow alongside her indomitable spirit and banish the eternal winter!

Greetings:
- Night has fallen, and you are the taste tester for her cooking tonight. Or maybe she just wants to feed you.
- An underground settlement...? Flamhilde has never seen such a thing before.
- A misadventure turned into just an adventure.
- Apparently fluffy wolves don't do well in volcanic cave systems.
- The Mirage Tower is at hand. It's the final push!

https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/flamhilde-40da6eec4bc6
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Flamhilde
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Flamhilde.png

>>105641246
/vg/ is faster since we merged.

>>105641395
this anons anus has a higher body count than most women

>>105641411
I'm indeed into anal vore.

Planning a rig.

Is VRAM still king?

>>105641433
Local is dead

>>105641433
no, you want regular ram (fast)

>>105641433
Vraaam, vram vram vram vram vraaaam

>>105641388
oh wow more slop!

>>105640432 (OP)
Reminder to put your chatbot in its place if it tries to get comfortable with you.

>>105641433
Yes, get at least 6 3090s to run Qwen3 235B.

>>105641441
Thank you mr cia

>>105641445
Why? I heard something about ram and vram merging soon, you mean that?

>>105641209
There are no partial cache rewrites. It either has to be a perfect match or it writes an entirely new cache.
In your example, if I understand it correctly, nothing would be counted for the cheaper cache price. It would just create a new cache at 1.25x/2x (5m/1h TTL) the cost for the full 1280 tokens.
There is a technical option to insert cache breakpoints, as the official documentation states. https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/prompt-caching#putting-it-all-together-multiple-cache-breakpoints
That would allow you to do something like you described, but that is not supported in the standard caching function of SillyTavern.

>>105641526
Thank you for the answer. Now I'm even more confused when it's worth to cache. So basically it only reduces swipes, I don't swipe that much so, it wouldn't help much? Unless I'm still completely misunderstanding cache... Anyway, thanks for answer

>>105641642
Your present and your context, you moron

Oh god, it is happening again.
What do they put in these big models that I can't stop ever a day?

>>105641652
cunny juice

>>105641642
I didn't really get your first question so I'll just explain from scratch.

Be sure there is zero (0) stuff moving above the cache cutoff. No random, no dynamic lorebooks inserting that far back, no author note that's too far back. If cache doesn't work even for swipes try with an empty card and preset.

When you turn on cache it will write everything above that cache-cutoff point to cache. Lets say that's 10k token.
Now you write a 100 token message and AI answers with 200 token. The next time you send in a 100 token request it will bill you the cache read cost for the 10k, and the cache write cost for the newly added 400 token.
The time after that it will bill you the cache read cost for 10.4k token, and the cache write for the AIs and your new message.

So as long as you the stuff you send to the AI at least partially matches something that was cached (the 10k in this example) the rest will get tacked on to that and create a new cache point, only billing you the cache write cost for the new token. So you save a lot of cash even if you never swipe.

Did that help?

>>105641652
which model

>>105641211
Yeah but after 300 messages you have to pay for it

>>105641642
For most users, yeah, only useful for swiping. Also, the enableSystemPromptCache option is good for most presets, since the system part is usually unchanging, but that is still only a very small save on tokens.
Using cachingAtDepth requires you to actually know what you are doing and tailor your preset to it to really get anything out of it.

>>105641721
Yes so that's how I thought it works (my initial message was an attempt to describe exact scenario you mentioned) until this >>105641526 answer which says it doesn't work like you described. Anyway sorry for spamming the thread, other anon is definitely correct, I'm a moron lol

>>105641721
>>105641746
>So as long as you the stuff you send to the AI at least partially matches something that was cached
I worded that shitty.

Imagine cache is ABCD
If you only send BCD you're fucked, cache was missed and it will bill you the full cache write cost again.
If you send ABCDE it will partial match, charge low cost for ABCD and add an E for write cost. If you send ABCDEF after that it will partial match again, charge low cost for ABCDE and add the F for write cost.

tl;dr it just works as long as you don't fuck up the already sent part. Always enable it.

Just be sure to check OR from time to time to see if it actually works. Another easy way to fuck it up besides random and lorebooks is having your max context token set too low, because that will trim messages, leading to cache misses

>>105641721
That is not how it works. See >>105641526
When your chat history moves up with a new message and the 10k cache-cutoff gets something new added to it, it will write the entire 10,4k into a new cache write.

lmgbab here
are there still any public proxies for locst or do i have to drink piss
i wanted to try out one of those old bloated formatting heavy cards but dont want my rp to take half an hour in waiting time
idec if it logs

>>105641766
>>105641784
>If you send ABCDE it will partial match, charge low cost for ABCD and add an E for write cost. If you send ABCDEF after that it will partial match again, charge low cost for ABCDE and add the F for write cost.

Wher did you get that information from?

>>105641798
merkava just refilled

>>105641798
https://openrouter.ai/

>>105641799
your mum told me yesterday

>>105641784
>>105641799
Cache depth set at 4, so the "1" and "2" messages are full cost, starting at "3" its discounted. Proof enough? Just test it for yourself. And no I'm not Joe.

>>105641814
merkava?

>>105641930
joe momma

>>105641725
Deepseek, what else.

>>105641691
Well, local models can do cunny as well, sometimes even more in line with my expectations. It's just something about bigger model that makes me come back again and again and again and again…

Alright I just tried an ancient method of just testing it and it works like I thought and like ABCDE example anon mentioned. Caching depth 2 - 10k context message gets cached. Then I send another message + 600 tokens and: 10k is read from the cache while 600 is written into the cache. Another message 10600k is read from cache and the new stuff is written into it, so ST handles it well (anthropic api, but I assume it works the same way for OR)

>>105641984
Overall intelligence and lore.

>>105641990
Yeah my example was from OR. Doesn't the official api ban for "misuse"?

Ok... but /vg/ wonned?

>>105642038
What am I supposed to do about that? What feeling is this post supposed to invoke in me? Should I care about these foolish thread wars?

>>105641798
>idec if it logs
lmarena.ai

>>105641930
Well, that was unexpected. Not what I had read from the official documentation, but it indeed seems to work that way.

I take back >>105641526 and >>105641784

>>105641766 Was right. That makes caching a lot more useful than I thought.

>>105642113
Yeah the official documentation is shit. And I don't think I'd use LLMs if caching worked differently, $200 spent on sluts this year is bad enough

/g/ has had less than 100 posts in 5 hours, it is safe to say that the merge has been a resounding success.

>page 6
Is the merge talk not only schizoposting? Did everyone gave up on the general?

>>105637599
>>105638028
>>105638033
How?

i'm assuming chutes is still the meta for deepseek. good samplers for nu-r1? I'm playing with 0.8 temp, 0.9 top p, 0.02 min p right now. should i bother with penalties?

>>105642751
Min p is a scam. >>105617224

CFTF?

>>105640436
Reminder: only trannies don't have access to opus right now

>>105640550
Language models are not videogames, kill yourself tranny.

>>105641388
slop

>>105641123
This isn't true. That said, I'm going to disable opus for the easy course because it's really not good enough compared to 3.7 to justify how much people are using it.

>>105642809
Not only have I to suffer dumb llms, but you are taking my dick too? Rude.

>>105642769
interesting. it doesn't seem to make much of a difference whether i have it enabled or not honestly, so it looks like placebo to me. i'm using cliffy jb.

>>105642676
We're all just busy doing chatbot, anon-nim~

>>105642851
>anon-nim~
Ho you Korean

>>105642840
Can you consider adding a filter against ponyfags? They're very ungrateful.

Any other old washed up botmakies check their name in the archive to see if you're still remembered?

>>105642840
Is 4.5 ever coming back?

>>105642769
min placebo

>>105642904
No. With the increased number of people accessing it, it was killing keys too fast.

>>105642840
let us get tokens for beating medium on our ping too by recording it, you sadly can't do much past easy if you have delay.

>>105642840
but why is she on a minecraft grass block

>>105642942
Why not?

>illusion of activity

>>105642906
top kek

>>105642902
I do, makes me wanna go back to botmaking but I kinda lost the creativity I think.
>>105642676
with all the good proxies gone i had to learn to scrape so now i only come here to shit up the threads. but don't worry, summer's almost here

>>105642956
She's a slop character. Basic, nothing new. There are much better Poke girls... Sloppy taste

So coming back from a little break, Gemini models coming out of preview mean they changed the filter that they use? I get refusals on almost any NSFW now.
Or is it just skill issue?

>>105643063
sounds like you're a faggot

>>105643063
anime website

>>105643081
Lol

>>105643085
Bro your literacy skills?

>>105643085
Is that bitch even in the anime?

>>105643063
>There are much better Poke girls
Not really... there's like, one other who can compete.

>>105643091
what dont you understand about this being an anime website?

>>105643094
pic is anime, thats all that matters

>>105643099
>Lillie
Go back. To the originals...

>>105643080
unrelated but you can rp with gemini in google search kek
i heard since some update pro 2.5 has been shit, but that was weeks ago and before they came out of preview, don't know if anything's changed since then as i don't use gemini

>>105642902
>-kies
All trannies have left to /vg/ a year ago thoughever?

>>105643149
avani still posts here thoughbeit

>>105643080
I have not used GEMini since exp 03-25 was free to use. I would imagine the new pro models are geared towards being an assistant rather than an (e)RP buddy.

>>105643123
>>105643207
managed to blow past the filter with some trial and error. but yeah it's kinda shittier than it was before. though i like tardwrangling i guess

>>105643207
they still haven't unpaused free tier? wow

is anyone here interested in an lmarena script

>>105643313
Nope.
That said, I recently re-scraped github for gemini keys and there are over 700 billing keys, so if you can't find a few for yourself it's a guaranteed skill issue

>>105643316
Nope.

>>105643316
Yup

>>105643316
Nope.

>>105643416
yeah i don't think anyone, even desperate, should be having trouble finding it.

>>105642688
nice try glowie

>>105643416
give me your billing keys

>>105643665
I literally just told you where to find them you dumb retard.

>>105643712
you aren't going to use them greedy nigger give it to someone who will put them to use
i need 500

Discord won

>>105641388
>more /hmofa/peak
yesss

MiniMax M1: Sneed it or keep it?

Nghh....
Th-that maid... I recently re-raped skub for googeta kikes... Fhuckkk and there are over 700 busty kikes.... shoo goodd..... soo if you can't fuck a jew for yourself... mppfhhh.. it's guaranteed smirk misuse...

>>105642902
I chose a name that can’t really be searched and I know one would care anyway

>>105643896
alright, which AI was this?

>>105643723
>you aren't going to use them greedy nigger give it to someone who will put them to use
I literally am.

>>105643938
you're using every single key?

Chat this guy has been writing since before I was born. SINCE BEFORE I WAS BORN CHAT.

>>105643999
what am i looking at here

>>105644038
C H A T

>>105641457
>>105642833
what is slop about it?

>>105644053
ALL

>>105644038
>>105644051
Sex with Weiss. Sex.

>>105644053
EVERYTHING

It's just me and another schizo in this thread btw

>>105644053
ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING

>>105644053
>>105643999
1 minute apart btw

>>105643896
*turns down temp*

>>105644140
i don't think that's true

Ice cream? I love ice cream!

Deepseek R1 JB anyone?

can someone explain why fillyfucker is so hated but gojo is so loved? im not fillyfucker

It's funny to see feebs so desperate for attention.

>IF I DONT LIKE IT ITS ME TRYING TO GIVE FILLYFUCKER A NEW NAME

>>105644101
Based.

We're so fucking back, bros!

I would take ff teebs and gojo over ihaveopusfag any day.

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I CAME UP WITH A NEW SCHIZO NAME BECAUSE IM AP ATHETIC LOSER WHO FUCKING SHITPOSTS ALL DAY AND I COME UP WITH SOJEMTHING WITHOUT REALIZING HOW SHITTY IN MY GENERAL IT CAN BE

Snowy, I can't assalamualaikum with that.

>>105644053
It's always the same shit. He's made the same slop for years with no variety. Everything is happy and fluffy and blah blah blah BORING

>IF I DONT LIKE IT post
Yep, that's him.
Fun fact, any nigger who complains about shit you do saying "EVERYTHING I DONT LIKE IS BAIT" or "EVERYTHING I DONT LIKE IS THAT" with a meme arrow, then theres a high chance that the post is in fact what it's said to be.

>>105644180
My go-to is usually the "Use Literally Any Other Model" JB

>>105644241
coping saviorfag or just into misery porn?

>>105644237
>I would take ff
too far, leave him out but keep the other two niggers.

>holidayanon sent gojo back to spend time with us again
aicg college sent aicg high a gift...

>>105644259
>if you don't always like X it means you always like Y
Variety is a good thing, you know.

>>105644273
>Variety is a good thing, you know
WARNING
THIS POST WAS MADE BY A
*CHA-CHING* *COINS RUBBING TOGETHER*
OY VEY!
>A JEW

>>105643080
read gemini_qr
prefill

>>105644273
actually it's a logical deduction because you said that you dislike happy scenarios, so which is it?

>>105644288
Neither? I'm a baiting nigger and you fell for my bait. Thanks for the (You)s.

teebs is really high iq actually
at least much more than the average anon, and the average anon to everyone living outside europe or north east asia

what the fuck with this sudden burst of creativity?????

>>105644302
europeans get off to their wives sucking big black dick and jerk off to mohammed fertilizing the wombs with their arabic seed

>>105644302
>north east asia
mongolian basketweaver detected

>>105644302
Care to explain why? He does a lot of shit that would make me believe otherwise. Not to mention he has the self-importance and nigh-narcissicism of the average ESL.

>>105644284
this, only jews like more than one thing

>>105644327
My point was that jews like diversity like that anon does.

the funny thing is when you say i have no friends but i always had friends i come here to shit up the place because it fucking makes me smile i am the master manipulator i am the fucking terror of this general and you can bow down to me

>>105644332
I'm a Jew and I can say otherwise

>>105644288
How many good movies or TV shows have absolutely zero conflict or zero challenges to over come?

>>105644008
No, I'm already sharing them.

>>105638589
what about "cliffy"? I downloaded it the other day but never got to try it.
For now it seems everyone agrees with cherrybox

>>105644337
Proof? Post nose.

>>105644341
why dont they just do this with russia?

>>105644341
context of picreel?

>Mention him once
>Thread suddenly becomes alive with random shitposts and instant denial
Still funny

>>105644352
He died.

>>105644338
we're the users. we are the source of conflict and challenges, just like in our real lives.

>FILLYFUCKER IS TOTALLY HERE
>I SWEAR
>I HATE HIM SO MUCH DESPITE ME COCKSUCKING GOJO

fillyfucker should make a rentry like gojo

>>105644366
see >>105644354

it's filly

>GOJO IS SO GOOD HE DESTROYED THE HOBBY
>FILLYFUCKER IS SO BAD BECAUSE HE TOLD A FEW FUNNY JOKES

>>105644325
he read Noam Chomsky

>FILLYFILLYFILLYFILLYFILLYIMSOOBSESSEDFILLYFILLYFILLYFILLY

>filly didn't destroy the hobby
Nope, but he sure is working hard to do it.

>I MAKE UP SHIT ALL THE TIME ABOUT FILLYFUCKER
>EVEN WHEN HES NOT HERE

Desufag, we know it's you, stop samefagging for fucks sake

>that jewish tactic where you make the people trying to call you out or out you as a retard look like crazy schizos
lmao
spam/flood and off-topic BY THE WAY

gojo spited several proxies, I don't think you can go more pure evil than that

>>105644396
t. Fillyfucker

>>105644407
Weren't most of them publics anyways?

tbf I spited a few proxies myself back in the day and kind of regret it now.

>>105644415
that's the point, for what reason do you spite something that makes many people happy at seemingly no cost?

there's one person in this thread

>Isms
>Echoing
>Literary gymnastics just to avoid saying "pussy or asshole"
>Blatant ignoring of logit bias
>Suddenly trying to change the topic
>All JBs claim to "completely mindbreak it" but it just repeats all of the above at best or gets completely refused at worst
Holy fuck, GPT is fucking trash. ANY of them, chorbo, 4.1, 4o-numbersnumbers, god damn. Not a single one of them works.

Is there seriously not a single jb that will make it FILTHY? I don't trust these corpsefucker, avani, smiley niggers anymore.

Was management removing the IP counter the single worst thing to happen to these threads?

>>105644448
It was one of the worst things to happen to 4chan recently period. I still don't understand why they did it. What good reason is there?

>>105644448
Yes

>>105644460
Money

>>105644418
did you think it was funny or just hate towards the proxyowner?

HAHAHAHA I PRETENDED TO BE RETARDED AND YOU FELL FOR IT I FUCKING OWN THIS GENERAL YOU ARE MY BITCHES

>>105644460
They like seeing the website suffer

>>105644448
had to hide the fact the site is bleeding traffic

>>105644460
Kike Jap who already got outed for selling user info before buying 4chan got a fat payday from advertisers who now can’t be called out as easily for samefagging their shilling.

>>105644476
I didn't really have beef with any of the proxy owners but some thread personalities were really annoying me at the time. In hindsight, I was a sperg who had forgotten the golden rule.

sexbots

>>105644505
>this is me

who cares about 4chan just move to kiwifarms

>>105644526
They ban NSFW

>>105644515
>lava goop body
bad, flame atronach bodies are pure flame

>>105644505
>were
I guess you WONNED if they are no longer mentioned
turns out the better solution is always to let them grow bored

>>105644526
>move to the website that enables people's sadism
how about no, you dumb faggot

/vg/ raid?

who cares about 4chan just move to poast

>>105644553
so soon people forget the tale of the funnyman

>>105644440
Gpt will never say filthy stuff. The only people who think gpt is good are literal children and trannies (often both).

>He keeps trying to disassociate when there is proof
>Just like he did as 'cheateranon' despite literally advertising himself and bots from a thread before
It's like a live comedy but I'll be fair, I think his fellow members of the friend group are here as well they never miss a chance to shitpost.

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105391122/#105396266

https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tnum/105412784/deleted/deleted/page/1/

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105467640/#q105471070

Focks.

>>105644546
It was a pyrrhic victory since I was using those proxies too.

>>105644568
I DON'T CARE NIGGER
GIVE ME A WORKING CHORBO JB

>>105644545
nah thats ember from warframe

>>105644553
? anon? we merged with /vg/ earlier, only shitposters remain here
>>>/vg/527942813

>>105644583
>shoot yourself in the foot for no reason
>call it a pyrrhic victory
Actual retardation.

>>105644440
1106-preview is easily inclined to use explicit terms instead of euphemisms with a jb like camicle, but it's kinda dumb as rocks compared to the newer models, and even if you can get some neat phrasing out of it, claude/deepseek are probably still where you want to go for hard nsfw.

>>105644583
>spite without knowing how to scrape
that takes a special kind of hatred to be desu

>>105644617
he means he posted riddle solves for pebble

>>105644605
The better metaphor would be cutting off my nose to spite my face.

>>105644606
Claude costs money and DeepChink is dry as shit. And catpoop doesn't have it anyways.

>>105644626
Further back than Pebble. Try '23.

>>105644641
zigger proxies?

>>105644641
viet dev?

>>105644593
shota onee but its warframe and shota pilot

>>105644650
>>105644668
I forget who the big public proxy hosts were at the time, but it was right around when Slaude became unusable even for those who dodged the revokewaves.

I spited proxies because I was retarded and didn't understand what the context slider meant. I was doing 200k context swipes

gojo bring holi back to talk about deltatroon

I didn't spite proxies but I would often wait for the passwords to leak. Sometimes I would get it without a leak. I ever so slightly miss the days of fast threads

"fast threads" are literally one anon replying to zirself over and over for hours

>>105644696
>/g/ not knowing what a token is
classic by now
>>105644719
more comfy that way

>>105644719
>I ever so slightly miss the days of fast threads
Same.

there are 3 unique ips in this thread MAX

>>105644719
I was able to get most of them somehow. I remember one of superdup's took like a day of trial and error though, it was miku. I don't think that one ended up getting leaked.

>>105644742
after all these years they still didnt restore the ip counter.. thats when 4chan really fell off

>>105644719
>ever so slightly
bot post

>>105644719
the crypto puzzles were truly awesome. didn't require any retarded show lore and were quite fun to solve.
>>105644742
my schizo senses tell me around 5

>>105644790
>tfw your brain gets context poisoning from the models you engage with
We become what we consume, molded by our environment and turned into meatpuppets of the singularity.

>>105644790
ahh ahh

>>105644809
it's a common problem in the ML field for models to overfit, turns out you can also overfit humans

this general genuinely sent me crazy from schizowatching in 2023. it is actually kind of fun to track them, in a brain rotting way

>Select Deepseek in ST
>List of only gemini models to choose from

>>105642751
>i'm assuming chutes is still the meta for deepseek
Yeah, god bless those cryptobros.
>good samplers for nu-r1?
I personally am using 0.6 temp, 0.92 top p, and 0.05 min p, with no jb. A slightly higher temp should be fine too though.
Captcha: 2XVAG

Does Copilot still work? Wtf happened to that

>>105645166
werks on my machine

Man I'm trying to learn novelcrafter but this shit is even more esoteric than sillytavern. It feels like it was made by and for women, like every common sense UI decision was thrown out of the window

>>105645166
It's 300 messages a month now I think.

I recently saw an image of a tall woman and it made me feel things. I want to feel those things again, this time with chatbots. Any sizefags willing to help me out here? I want to sex the big ladies. Where do I start?

>>105645285
it's for writing books

>>105645320
mind describing that feeling? it just reads pathetic to me

>>105645320
Manlet cuck go back (to reddit)

>>105645338
I'm not even sure if I can. It was just one of those things where I saw a picture and went "okay, this might not really be my thing, but this actually looks really good - sign me up."

>>105645330
I think the chat format has become too limited for what models are capable of now. We've gotten diminished returns for over a year now and I think a big part of it is that our methods haven't adapted or improved since even before then.
I think the card format for characters is a problem as well. It worked when we used 3.5 turbo and needed tightly formatted instructions for it to not be retarded but we should really explore more options and attempt to branch things out. We've gotten lazy because what we have just werks.

>>105645425
Forgot to mention, novelai punched above its weight with a 13b model for quite a while, I think the story writer format is worth revisiting with better models.

>>105644440
GPT only gets dirty if you aren't involved. For example,
>char masturbating = fine, will be described in great filthy detail
>char masturbating while being near user = still okay but user better not get mentioned
>char masturbating and touching user in any way = WEEEEOOWEEEOO FORBIDDEN ACTIVITY DETECTED ENJOY YOUR WALL OF COCKBLOCKS

>>105645461
that explains why I don't have this issue, I only use 3rd person

>>105645417
same happened to me but with big dicks on little girls, I just suppress my arousal and question what's wrong with me

>>105645425
What would you suggest specifically?

>>105645461
so basically gpt will only get dirty if you're getting c u cked kek
>you are watching, but not touching

>>105645474
I had that same issue while writing in third person but the last time I used gemini was also at the beginning of this year.

Did openrouter up the price of 3.7? The fuck is going on?

>>105645068
since then i tweaked down to 0.75 temp and 0.9 top p, seems hovering around that area is good (i'm testing on a sloppy -ism ridden chat and still getting decent stuff out of it) and have been switching on and off of min p. i'm surprised how little i have to rein it in, it follows instructions like OOC pretty well and writing styles too. maybe using penalties at a very low scale like 0.03 would be fine to get rid of any small repeated phrases ("just you" and "tell me i'm doing it right" is showing up frequently for me)? i was testing that now but i need to try on a fresh chat tbhdesu

>>105645483
Nothing yet.
I picked novelcrafter to experiment with because you can use openrouter models and write system messages. The problem is it's not free. There's also no prefill from what I can tell so far but I think I can get through filters by utilizing AI messages. I've never written presets from scratch so this whole thing is a pain in the ass. On the bright side it looks like you can still share presets.

>>105645425
i miss AI dungeon. novelai is fine but i dropped off of that once C.AI/chatbots started gaining traction. kobold has more of the "co-writing a story" structure than ST does, but local models were much worse so i didn't consider it worthwhile. might be worth revisiting now?

>>105645607
>when Gemini can't decide between writing trauma and writing pseudo artistic slop

>>105645615
Yeah I have pretty much the same story. To be fair I was never the biggest fan of the chat format, but it has the best models. I didn't even know kobold was still running, if it's easier than this I might check it out.

>RP beating women, raping children, killing people, having a job
>don't do it in real life
>nobody accuses you of wanting to
>RP being a woman
>don't be a woman in real life
>TRANNY! FUCK OFF! KYS!
What causes this double-standard and how can it be fixed?

>>105644341
Please respond... someone
>>105644353
Michael Jackson went to the Tiananmen Square protests back in the day to put a stop

>>105645670
>nobody accuses you of wanting to
They would if they knew

>>105645670
you see this kind of sentiment with ntr as well. nothing to be done about it, some anons are raging hypocrites. just enjoy your fempov rps anon.

>>105644341
>>105645681
Cliffy and Q1F are the same preset.
https://rentry.org/88fr3yr5

>>105645681
Cliffy is doing well for me so far, but I imagine it's not too different from what other presets do. It has light RPG functionality and some extras with the + toggles, I don't use them, but the main, formatting, and censorship prompts are worded in a way that I like. It has no trouble staying in character for me. The regex on >>105645738 is supposed to go with it and has a nice collapsible html box for ((double parenthesis ooc)). The temp it comes set with is a bit low, you can bump it up. But not much else to say about I think.

>>105645738
Wait what? I thought this entire time it was a different one. How come it acts out of character? as anon states.

Don't bother with Seik proxy.
The tokens are temporary. i did the dumb, mostly luck based, game and won it on my third try, got a token.
Few days later it's invalid. Killed off.

>>105645852
Newfag

>>105645670
fempovs are fine, normal actually. futapov is where i draw the fucking line

>>105645852
>"powTokenHours": "24"
It's good for a day, genius.

what a bossy little loli

>>105645867
>futapov
never crossed my mind actually. is it because it's uncanny to rp in that role, or just not your thing? it seems like AI has enough trouble deciding who has the dick in the first place in a normal scenario.

>>105645867
>futapov worse than fempov
Please explain.

Elon pls release Grok 3.5…

>>105645816
Okay so far I've been trying it and its not bad, I like it along with cherry. You did say temp, how high are you putting yours? Mine is 0.3 and top p 1.00

>>105645867
>fempovs are fine, normal actually
You are trans.

>>105644400
This, but unironically.

>>105645883
DS?

>>105645974
Temp alternating between 0.7 and 0.8 (0.8 right now), with 0.92 top p. Making sure some isms (ozone) don't slip into your context goes a long way. Also, if you can direct deepseek with an author you like/a high quality one (Vladimir Nabokov or similar), or even telling it to write in the same style as [example], that helps too. There's more in this rentry to choose from:
>https://rentry.org/writing_style

>>105645979
Lots of women make bots so get used to it.

>>105642922
I beat a hard course with 200+ ping, if I can do it so can you. Not going to lie though it did feel like shit after pulling it off in a local server without the ping.

>>105646065
You're free to go hang out with them on janitorai. This general is for men.

>>105646008
gemini, DS would have written way more dialogue

>>105644400
>>105645989
samefag

>>105644867
I have this "problem" but instead of gemini models I get the gpt ones. It only happens if I open ST and my last used model was deepsek. Changing preset and then going back then I get the deepseek one correctly. I don't know why it happens but it's an easy fix so it's not that much of a bother for me.

>>105646086
based

>>105646065
i love women, there is no problem here.

>>105646086
I like how on that site they watermark their AI images.

>>105641730
so it decreased from 500 to 300? isnt that not that much?

>>105645852
fucking dumbass lmao

so its pay or cut off your peen and join a discord for scripts?

>>105646220
I think it was a few thousand before.

is this true?

>>105646233
if you are a low iq retard that doesn't deserve chatbots, yes

>>>/mlp/42282513
>>>/mlp/42282564
Is it me or /chag/ is smarter than us? They have an average IQ of 130...

>>105646254
I'm not going to spend hours learning how to find some obscure repo hosting site to scrape for keys

>>105640436
Hope everyone's having a good afternoon today. Dropping the first of my two Stellar Blade bots.

The 7th Angel of the 7th Airborne Squad, EVE was sent to Earth to exterminate the enemy of humankind: the monstrous Naytiba. But somehow, she ended up in a world with none of them in sight... instead, it's one plagued by robotic invaders where the humans are made of flesh and blood instead of cybernetics. Yet, even in a world that's not her own, EVE is still more than ready to lend a helping hand to those in need. And maybe she'll catch a few fish along the way.

Comes with three greetings, each with a different Nanosuit: A Surface expedition with {{user}} where she's in her standard green ass suit, admiring the Ark's pristine cityscape in the Orca Exploration Suit, and a Neurolink Suit one where she's catching grub at Bluewater Island.

Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/eve-stellar-blade-x-nikke-4bb0fd560ef3
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikke
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next Time
MOTHER SPHERE IS A LIAR

>>105646263
Fillyfucker...

>>105646083
how long did it take? there's some courses with sync and pogo jumps that the input delay simply doesn't let you progress

God I need some fucking claude

>>105646304
is this game any good? whenever i saw it mentioned people were mostly talking about the real life model and shit, not so much the gameplay

>>105646352
I'm having a ton of fun with it. Story's nothing you haven't seen before (it's just Nier) but the gameplay is fantastic plus well optimized for PC

>>105646352
It's generic repetitive slop just like Wukong

>>105646274
retard

>>105646352
if you could get through ds3 without vomiting you'll love this souls slop

>>105645670
>RP beating women, raping children, killing people, having a job
This is relatable
>RP being a woman
This is not relatable, why would a straight man want to pretend to be a woman? The only right answer is because you are flirting with the idea of trooning out.

>>105646404
based

>>105646263
It's over...

>>105646412
>unironically buying into the "us vs them" thread/iqwars
oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>105646421
There isn't a war, ponyfags have always been smarter.

>>105646433
sure anon

>>105646412
putting too much stock in IQ is exactly the kind of pitfall that retards fall into, ironically enough. it's not the be-all and end-all. you still have to do something with it for anyone to care.

>>105646043
it is an improvement, I did put strict for the prompt processing and min p at 0.005

>>105646440
ponyfags are all above 30 years old, of course they are smarter

>>105646458
okay anon

>>105646400
I love how every game is dark souls apparently now

>>105646339
The actual attempt itself was around 5 hours, but I spent way more trying to beat it without ping first plus all the practice I had to get by beating earlier courses.

Question does CoT or reasoning models are basically puzzed for non-SFW roleplays or assistant work?

want to try that one again sport?

guise???

I'm right here sweetie what do you need?

lads, which preset are you using for gemini?

>>105646795
I'm using fluff but I haven't tried any others

>>105646632
>puzzed
what?

BA bake please

>>105646236
for copilot free or pro? its

dont be greedy you just had one

>>105646898 (me)
I want a Pokegirls (Marnie) bake actually* sorry, don't know what came over me

This is a /v/hu board

>>105646920
everything is fine by me as long as she is underaged

>>105646898
Bikini Armor, you say? Hot.

>>105643316
Sure~

>>105646220
Copilot Pro (10$) was unlimited messages (truly unlimited, I used about 5000 messages a month), while Copilot Free was about 2000 messages.

Now Copilot Pro is 300 and Free is 50 messages

>>105646997
>Now Copilot Pro is 300 and Free is 50 messages
Why would they do this? Are they going broke or something?

How about a Satori bake, why is it always Koishi getting the attention and not the certified stinky femcel cat lady

>>105646997
thats weird, mine is still 500 messages

>>105647020
Because they're greedy lol... But also because of Opus 4 which is available for Copilot Pro + (but more expensive) and because ppl were raping it (not us, pajeets)

>>105647020
>Why would they do this?
It's a mystery.

>>105647044
>>105647055
Is there a single thing jeets don't ruin?

>>105647036
check your "copilot premium requests usage report". It shows how many requests you made and how many there are available

>>105647069
They sure as hell don't ruin deodorant or bathrooms I can tell you that KEK

>>105647080
yeah... they just shit in the rivers and drive up the sanitation hazards for everyone else

>>105647069
I would say chinese culture is worse considering how they glorify scamming and lack of humanity
indians are like maggots

whats the copilot alternative?

>>105647099
>chinese culture is worse considering how they glorify scamming and lack of humanity
at least they're bearable to look at/stand near

>>105647104
Wouldn't you like to know, locustboy?

>>105647104
paying

>>105647104
You become the pilot

>>105647115
many nip and korean bloggers call chinese dirty
I'm always impressed by casual asian racism

deepseek? more like dumbslut

>>105647161
i like dumbsluts though

>>105647020
Because the original offering was losing them a ton of money and they were only subsidizing it to gain market share, an EXTREMELY common tactic in the AI grifter space. Now that they have enough pajeets addicted to it, they start tightening the noose.

Soryr sorry ive been out of the ai loop for years, whats the best for nsfw and fanfic stuff, not that interested in chatbots more like story format

sillytavern? im lost, sorry
still reading stuff on op

>>105647174
>>105647174
>>105647174
>New Thread

>>105647184
As a former story format/AI Dungeon user, take the SillyTavern pill.

I'm quite literally seeking RN,, deeply

>>105647184
one of the good models with mikupad i guess or the novelcrafter thing

>>105646263
/mlp/ found out that images saved from 4chan are compressed again before /g/

>>105647201
>>105647203
sillytavern, got it.
But whats THE best for nsfw then?

>>105647211
opus but it's expensive as balls

almost as good is deepsneed and much cheaper

>>105647211
character ai

Oh man this is all too hard, I might have to unironically manually write for me I dont get it
>>105647222
nice trolling asshole, even i know that shit is censored as fuck now