Thread 105645089

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Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models

Prev: >>105638425

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassic
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Models, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info

>Cook
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>Chroma
Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>WanX (video)
https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.1

>Misc
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Samplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage | https://rentry.org/ldgtemplate
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta

>Neighbors
https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#rentry-from-other-boards
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/b/celeb+ai
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo

We really need a news post for the latest optimizations, papers, and general AI tech discussion.

Blessed thread of frenship

can't get chroma to render a checkout conveyor belt.. oh well

>>105645025
blame the site for not letting me post multiple files in the same post in CURRENT_YEAR. we have image slots and we (were) on page 7 so *shrug*

FWIW, whatever i post has a ~40% chance of making it into the final music video so its not completely irrelevant spam slop

anime girl rei ayanami eats popcorn.

>>105645127
Try >>105639397
>Regular anons might get some use out of it too, since it has a custom collage feature now. You can drag-and-drop your own images and/or videos to make custom collages, might be useful for lots of outputs you want to show off or something.

setting node lines to straight really does make everything look less spaghetti, thanks to that anon from the other thread who screenshotted his nodes i didn't realize it was possible

>>105645127
>whatever i post has a ~40% chance of making it into the final music video
well if you fill the thread with half your slop statistically speaking..

>>105645127
That's not really an excuse, I have concatenated a few variations of a video with ffmpeg in the past to post here
If you want to shill/promote your "music video" to people here, at least try not being obnoxious about it

what was that thing that let you search images for prompt tags, is it still around and is it any better?

Why is Chroma's imagination of anime an early 00s VN sprite?

>>105645240
I am not sure if you guys noticed yet, but it's clear that lodestone indeed prioritized e621 furfagottry in the model. If you prompt any well known furry character that Flux doesn't know, Chroma likely knows, but if you prompt even some anime characters that are common in booru, it has not learned it yet. I haven't tried, but I bet it knows some furry artists too while it doesn't know some mainstream japanese artists

>>105645240
Reflection of the author.

>>105645227
Are you talking about an autocaptioner?

>>105645240
probably cause it's trained on 5 million mid quality furry porn images drawn by amateur artists

Also how do I get rid of the fuzziness? The uniforms are messy as fuck

>>105645276
don't tell me we have to use this https://www.downloadmost.com/NoobAI-XL/e621-artist/

>>105645297
>complete with chinese Activate Windows watermark in bottom right
chroma is perfection

>>105645297
Take more steps. Some anons say 20 steps is enough but no, 30+

>>105645276
>>105645308
wait fuck... does anyone have examples of this? does chroma already know furry artists?

>>105645346
Nigga the huggingface card literally has only furry examples lol

blue hair anime girl picks up a pizza box and eats a slice of pizza.

straight from the box! kek

>>105645346
Doesn't really know them he's a troll

>>105645370
agreed, tried adding "art by .. " with some of those artist names from the furry website and it didn't change my output at all

>>105645344
>170 seconds gen time
Yeah, nah. This is a meme.

>>105645367
there we go. proper slice!

>>105645418
Yes but result is superior. More steps, the better (up to 50 I'd say). Also samplers matter. Dpm_2 and heun > others, but it's a tad bit slower. For photoreal gens, euler is not as good as res multistep or dpmpp 2m.

>>105645457
Lots of anons complain about body horror, poor background etc... that is usually the result of limited steps, if you prompt a dynamic pose happens much higher rate at those lower steps.

Why is no modern model (SDXL) as sharp as SD 1.5's outputs were?
1 megapixel models all have this subtle soft blur to them, as if they were generated at 512px and then lanczos upscaled to 1024.

>>105645495
No idea what you're talking about.

>>105645495
maybe it was the lostech tile ultimate upscale which jest isn't the same in comfy

Why is no modern model (by modern I mean SDXL onwards, including Flux, Chroma, Hidream etc etc) as sharp as SD 1.5's outputs were?
1 megapixel models all have this subtle soft blur to them, as if the image was generated at 512px and then lanczos upscaled to 1024.

>>105645511
sorry deleted and reposting due to missing info. you really don't see the soft blur?it seems quite obvious to me

>>105645519
Nah I'm not talking about upscaling, just base outputs

>>105645524
it's the same vae. hopefully we get the 16 channel vae soon

More pancakes.

>>105645531
uh to be clear I'm talking about 16ch vae models as well, like Flux. it's the same for them

>>105645457
Slightly better, but details are still fucked. Also kek the girl on the ground.

>>105645543
trained on sloppa from 1.5 and sdxl

do we still need flash-attention ?

>prompt was a flag of fictional country
Isn't that palestine?

>>105645537
does that use a lora?

>>105645524
>Why is no modern model (by modern I mean SDXL onwards, including Flux, Chroma, Hidream etc etc) as sharp as SD 1.5's outputs were?

Show an example image? Do you mean fake skin? Chroma solves this issue.

>>105645524
Yeah I know what you mean. With sdxl you had to i2i the details in or use stuff like https://github.com/muerrilla/sd-webui-detail-daemon

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3RnSaXoj58
>My heart lies in Texas, el Paso.

>>105645594
No, just edge sharpness. Nothing whatsoever to do with realism or coherence (which obviously they are far better than SD15 at). Edges in every newer model are all kind of soft-looking (again, as if the image has been upscaled from a lower resolution)

>>105645154
im ok but thanks for sharing

>>105645173
not my fault if others arent posting

>>105645188
>posting gens is being obnoxious
great bait, nogen. have a (You)

>>105645594
Chroma makes skin great again

does someone remember the nodes that anon had in the pixelart gen? i didn't save the img and cant remember. it was two nodes connected and was subtle scaling with nearest exact or something like that

>>105645621
Yeah, I see it too. My guess is that all the 1 megapixel models are cheating a bit to make their datasets larger by including a lot of images that aren't natively 1 megapixel and have been upscaled from something lower. So the reason 1024 models all output images that look a bit soft, like upscales, is that they've seen a lot of images like that.

>>105645621
diff anon here. I know what you mean.the right sampler/scheduler and some noise manipulation like the aforementioned detail daemon can help buit it's just how it is.

>>105645126
just post them. fuck that faggot

>>105645524
>>105645591
Cumshot, big splash, and titty jiggle. Also using the light2x + nag workflow.

Rei Mcdonalds:

>>105645537
process? is there a syrup lora?

>>105645707

Can you give a brotha a Juneteenth present and cat box a gen?

>>105645688
>>105645687
>>105645621
Can always just use a good ol' photo editor to edit the sharpness.

>>105645769
Good idea. Is there any Comfy node that can do that?

>>105645126
Putting it a catbox because maybe jannies would not like it:
(nsfw)
https://files.catbox.moe/23002v.mp4

>>105645819
jannies are your fellow sisters, they love this content actually

>>105645769
yeah I use a sharpener as the final step in my pipeline but it's easy to destroy the image, see the one on the right lol. G'MIC inverse diffusion sharpener via krita was how I used to do it but now I do it directly in the upscaling process via smart sharpener. but again, need to be careful.
>>105645776

>>105645819
adorable newfag

>>105645863
this is why i love using krita, can do all that photoshoppy shit in there. at least for things where no nodes are around for

>>105645635
hehh this isn't bad at all actually

>>105645892
proper levels/color adjustment needs to be done manually anyways and most SD gens are faulty to a certain degree. no blacks at all for whatever reason, here look at this shit

>>105645947
>no blacks at all
I thought you said it was faulty

What relatively simple feature do you think is needed the most in ComfyUI?

Hey I'm using the wan2.1guide but I'm OOMing if I add a LORA even though I'm on a h100. I had trouble getting the right node to load the model, since I couldn't find it

It wanted UnetLoaderGGUFDisTorchMultiGPU but I could not find that instead I am using UNETLoaderMultiGPU.

>>105645997
update everything with comfyui manager if you dont see it

>>105645992
dedicated SIGKILL + relaunch button, maybe a way to automate it so it happens after every gen while still keeping your queue

>>105645707
honestly, one of the better uses of nsfw loras. nice syrup anon.

Don't use ai-toolkit to train a Chroma LoRA.
There's something seriously wrong with the training script and the results are the worst I've ever seen for a LoRA. The same dataset that gave me perfect results for a flux LoRA looks like liquid shit using ai-toolkit with Chroma.
Other people have reported the same thing.
The only viable current option is diffusion-pipe.

>>105646017
Looks like I didn't have comfyui-gguf which was necessary to show them! not quite used to comfyui yet

>>105646054
The .bat script should've automatically installed it along with every other extension it needs

>>105645707
top kek

>still no working NAG implementation for Flux

Did the paper turn out to be a nothingburger or are the coders just not interested for some reason? I'm too retarded to do it myself, and people's attempts at getting Claude or Gemini to implement the paper have seemed to be failures.

>>105645707
can we have one without the tongue? or is that a fundamental part of the cumshot lora

>>105646051
same experience here, weird artifacts on ai-toolkit Chroma LoRa

>>105646051
Try this fork:
https://github.com/JTriggerFish/ai-toolkit

This guy made some Chroma-specific changes, I trained a couple of loras with it before and it does not have the weird lines

>>105646081
It was a person on my end, only the likeness was so far off, it was laughable. When I did it on flux, the results were 1-to-1 and nearly indistinguishable from the actual person.
Does it require more steps than a flux LoRA? It always hit the sweet spot at around 2000 or so steps on flux, with a 40-50 image dataset.
>>105646084
Worth a shot.

>>105646084
How much vram do you need for chroma lora training?

>>105646151
if you have to ask, you don't have enough

>>105646151
24gb is enough, just like Flux

>>105646027
>you've burnt the ragu

Damn this is slick, may I ask which model and lora?

Been using euler/sigmoid offset for chroma, any better combo?

Quick! Switch your positives and negatives and post the result.

>>105646164
FusionX Q6, the merge not the lora. I think my setup is outdated by now but I'll reconfigure my shit after I'm done this project.

its a reference to how you can run over the chef at the start of vice city if your car is going fast enough during the cutscene lol

https://files.catbox.moe/jvgsvt.mp4
prompt is super long because sonnet 4 made it, but then again if you're not using all 512(?) tokens of t5xxl you may be leaving kino on the table

>>105646164
Also I meant for wan, the not the image, please

>>105646196
FusionX is great for t2v, it's completely replaced default Wan for me. Shame about the face switching on i2v though.

>>105646095
I do think I trained for more steps and the likenesses for characters was usually recognizable in some training, but usually with various artifacts and issues.

It never really worked actually right judged by the standard of quite many other models with the same data. There's some issue in there somewhere.

>>105646163
Is it due to base model size or what?

>>105646176
tried res4lyf sampler (res_2m and bong_latents) and they are "k".
res_3s_lie is really good but it takes SO much longer to generate.
i think euler and sigmoid might just be the best still desu.

>>105646192
i had this in my negative: fat, ugly, obese, monochrome, blurry, unfinished, huge clitoris. piercing. 3d, anthro,

i think i'm good.

>>105646204
I'm just gonna WSL diffusion-pipe in and try that, and if it's the same problem, I'll wait until Chroma is done cooking or something.

>>105646196
lol sweet, thanks man. I was going to get rid of fusion because it changes some of the faces but seeing that, I think I'll keep it

>Q6

Q6 is good but just got a 4070tis in november and I'm thinking about saving for a 5090 or that rumored 5080 24gb

>>105646196
>FusionX Q6, the merge not the lora
is the difference big?

>>105646192
here you go, but im on cfg 1 so i think this is just the equivalent of a WAN gen with an empty prompt
proof: https://files.catbox.moe/5uljpo.mp4

>>105646199
yeah I have absolutely no complaints for t2v. I'm still firmly in the honeymoon phase and having a lot of fun

>>105646239
no idea, but people recommend the lora for the added versatility. no real reason to use the merge anymore if you're setting up a fresh workflow from what i've heard

>>105646255
>im on cfg 1 so i think this is just the equivalent of a WAN gen with an empty prompt
you can add NAG to get the negative prompt back

>>105645992
Native X/Y grid would inspire many option comparisons

>>105646297
once I'm done with my low-effort shitpost of a music video (should be by next week if not this weekend, I just hit the 50%/1 minute mark), I'll take the time to figure out the new best workflow for my 5070Ti and switch to it, and then idk maybe go back to the russian teen pop star Perfect Blue idea i have since i have no other inspiration after this vice city memevideo

there's only been two things I have kinda wanted to negate: wedding rings on hands, especially for Tommy, and bare legs for Mercedes' leggings to cancel out the Zettai ryoiki since she doesnt show any bare leg in the game
but those are really minor things, the former can be edited around and the latter can just be handwaved away as a stylistic choice, the bigger issue is that WAN can't get the pattern of her leggings right, only gotten it right once in 100 gens and it was a portrait gen anyways

>>105646351
Fuck yes

I copied the rentry layout exactly, node by node but this shit still doesn't work. Where's the mistake?

>>105646351
>relatively simply
The way the org operates, that won't be simple.

>>105646310
my brain is so fried from all this shit
only thing that comes to mind is
>thank you onlyfans member FartFren69, you were SO right about the thai food!
>*jumps on bed in front of cam*
>*huge brap*

>>105646378
you didnt need to write this post bro

>>105646407
*BRRRRRRAAA-ffffsshhhh-PRRRRLLLSSSHHIP*

chroma will never be good

>>105646434
trvke

>>105646434
If krea gets released and isn't distilled or too high parameter, everyone will forget about Chroma in a day, and all nsfw finetuning efforts will go towards making krea coom

>>105646442
Now reverse the roles

>>105646452
>If krea gets released and isn't distilled or too high parameter, everyone will forget about Chroma in a day, and all nsfw finetuning efforts will go towards making krea coom
they won't release it, it was just a bait to get some free advertisement, and even if they release it, I doubt it'll be on Apache 2.0 licence, the licence is what makes a model popular or not, there's a reason why Wan has billions of derivatives now, it's because it has the apache 2.0 licence

EWW a fucking DOOMER replied to me, EWWWWWW

>>105646365
guys pls reply

>>105646434
pissbuttfag...

>>105646452
You seem to be greatly underestimating how difficult and expensive it is to do a full rank fine-tune of a >5b+ model, that's precisely the reason why no one besides Chroma has attempted properly fine-tuning and dedistilling Flux
And also why no one bothered deslopping HiDream

>>105646480
nobody sane uses cumfartUI for masking anything, either find a already done workflow to try or use krita

>>105646452
That hidream already is better didn't mean someone instantly stepped up to run a large NSFW finetuing.

>>105646066
>>105643298
I'm still refining NAG for SDXL, will probably implement NAG for Flux/Chroma later today

>>105646496
>that's precisely the reason why no one besides Chroma has attempted properly fine-tuning and dedistilling Flux
Huh? Flex is doing this

Bigma status?

Is a single 4090 realistic to start playing with local high quality animation genning? I've only got a 3060 12GB currently so I stick with static images but I'll probably be upgrading soon, I don't wanna get too crazy though..

>>105646520
buckbroken

>>105646524
oh no :(

>>105646519
I said "properly" anon
Also Flex is slopped just like the base model, ostris likely trained on Flux own outputs

>>105646518
>will probably implement NAG for Flux/Chroma later today
nice, you can inspire from that if you want, it's running but not working
https://github.com/Clybius/ComfyUI-ClybsChromaNodes

>>105646520
Replaced by Smegma

>>105646365
>I copied the rentry layout exactly, node by node
why did you not drage the workflow image into the program?

>>105646518
God's work, thanks anon.

>>105646520
afaik the old Pixart guys were hired by Nvidia. I wouldn't be surprised they worked on the recently released Cosmos

>>105646529
>gets called out for lie
>AKSHUALLY *schizo headcanon*

>>105646522
if you mean video, then yes. there are many workflows (txt2vid, img2vid, and vid2vid) that are all built around 24g of ram.

>>105646539
Doesn't work.

>>105646452
Krea single-image style transfer is a lot of fun. It's never going to be released locally because local only gets junk. Even if it did release, it was partly developed by the faggots at BFL so you know they won't let it release without 3 layers of distillation and a baked in 4GB-consuming signature engine that embeds your biography into the pixel data

>>105646452
>If krea gets released

>>105646565
>local only gets junk
true, the only exception to that is Wan, god bless the chinks

uh oh stinky

>>105646452
lol even the slightest hint of optimism brings out the nothing-ever-happens doom and gloom geeks, it's fucking hilarious

>>105646365
he has to update the workflow every time comfy updates so it's a losing battle

eh. i dont think the speed is worth it

To think about it, if BFL went out of their way of "helping" someone to release a model that competes with theirs directly, they either:

1 - Gave up making new T2I models
2 - Have something better in the works (Flux 2?)

The work they did on Flux Kontext is truly remarkable, getting a decent image instruction dataset is not easy, and from my tests, that model is superior to gpt4o and gemini for image editing in every single way. So they likely spent the last 6 months or so building datasets and working on their (dead on arrival) video model

>>105646600
>yeah bro just forget about all those companies who betrayed the community, don't talk about tencent who promised us an image model but never delivered either! don't be a doomer, companies have always the best intent in mind!

>>105646621
>that model is superior to gpt4o and gemini for image editing in every single way
Pretty sure neither of those use in-context learning. It's just an OP technique for editing models

>>105646624
someone make a video out of this

>>105646621
The co-owner of Krea is buddies with the guy who runs BFL. By 'help', they gave krea access to their hardware and their training workflows. They had to pay for the hardware, but BFL gave them a hefty discount. Krea shared their dataset with BFL though. That was the real price.

Also, the model itself is a completely new foundational model, it has no relation to flux at all, and there's no licensing restrictions between BFL and krea. It's krea's model.

>>105646600
Hello, doom and gloom geek here. You may remember me from hits like
>SD3 will be shit
>Mogao won't be local
>Hunyuan 2.0 will not be local
>Sana will be shit and will never get finetunes
>Deepseek can't bake a competent image model
and my upcoming release
>Flux Kontext [dev] will be shit (bonus track: Krea won't be local)

>>105646621
>The work they did on Flux Kontext is truly remarkable,
yeah, the pro one, we'll only get the dev one, and that shit will probably be like 40% as good as the real deal (and I'm being generous here)

>>105646654
based insider knowledge poster

>>105646442
>finally, we have AI to make women better than they are in reality
>gen video that specifically triggers the "I hate women so much it's insane" reflex
ai was a false prophet all alone...

>>105646658
>>Deepseek can't bake a competent image model
Isn't that one true?

>>105646061
Thanks, I am a linux user, so I ignored it but it's easy enough convert it to bash. I didn't realize we are all on master, nor did I notice the sage attention flag.

>>105646701
Holy shit kek. Your (you), sir

>>105646696
yeah that's the point, doomers are true on a lot of things

i think FartFren69 is beans

>>105646654
you seem to know a lot, do you think they'll release the model?

>>105646679
you should see the AI generated ragebait getting hundreds of thousands of likes on youtube. people are now making fake street interviews with obviously fake AI voices where random girls are like "yeah my dad sends me 50k a month and its still not enough" and the comments are all taking it 100% serious (if they're not bots themselves too)
we're so cooked. at least its a good thing that at no point in human history the truth ever actually mattered for convincing people of anything

>>105646742
>beans
they're good for your heart! the more you eat...

>>105646080
>LET'S SEE YOU MAKE SOME FUCKING TRACTORS NOW, FERRUCCIO

>>105646749
I like how people thought "the singularity" would be some kind of wonderful, all-powerful all-known supermind, when in reality it's the hypernormalization of every aspect and domain of human perception not mattering and having no objective reality anymore. it's going to be every color and vibration of human thought slowly descending back into the grey static of an old tv screen

>>105646749
>at least its a good thing that at no point in human history the truth ever actually mattered for convincing people of anything
let's not pretend that it doesn't happen IRL, people tend to believe AI because reality is just as crazy

>>105646768
>having no objective reality anymore
>anymore
meh. did june 1989 actually happen? depends on if you live in china. is allah actually real? depends on if you live in saudi arabia. does the earth revolve around the sun? depends on if you live in 14th century italy.

truth only really matters to science and autists who value science over """humanity""". what matters less is what is "true" and more what is "valid". i genuinely think over the course of human history, people who have tried to focus on the "valid" over the "true" have lived better lives, and i dont think AI is going to change that. perhaps AI may change what is "valid", but "truth" never had anything to do with it.

>>105646743
They're not pulling enough users. I know that much. It's hard to get interest in an already over saturated generative AI marketplace unless what you're offering is truly something special. Krea's model is very creative, but it's not cutting edge, there's nothing there that will make users switch from competition like Midjourney.

So weigh the options. Keep renting expensive hardware to run your models when nobody is really biting, or open-source and build name recognition that way, like Stability AI and BFL did, reserving the right to close-source future models once you've got a brand.

The perfect model for both model makers and community is AGPL.
Open source community has all the freedom it wants, while AGPL effectively prevents third party from monetization by providing API for it, so that the model maker can host exclusive API for monetization on poorfags who can't afford GPUs. Win-win.

>>105643298
Holy fuck I hope the PLADIS gets figured out because I've never seen sdxl actually do a real looking meal. Insane stuff.

>>105646801
>truth only really matters to science and autists who value science over """humanity""". what matters less is what is "true" and more what is "valid".
ywnbaw

>>105646803
So does pretraining an imagegen model from scratch _still_ cost like $10m worth of compute, just like it did when Stability made SD1.4?
I thought it might have come down a bit by now. Not to hobbyist level but at least under a million.

>>105646819
>PLADIS
what's that?

>>105646826
One of the solutions in that github

i've tried nag and lightspeed and it's still really trash at 720p compared to teacache

any updates

>>105646825
I think the price HAS come down a lot for training a model the size and quality of SD1.4
It's just that no one wants a model of that quality anymore, so the amount of compute required for a good model is much higher than it was in 2022
hence the price remaining steady

are the people in vid related men? you can easily argue that they're not because both (You) and I know that they werent "born" men, but born out of random latent noise. read Metaphysics if you're interesting in being more than a nogen schizo

>>105646825
Pretty sure SD1.4 would have cost around 1-2M, not 10M, the 10M figure was based on the raw compute cost for 4k a100 clusters, but they would have 100% negotiated cloud provider discounts. You could train a comparable model today for less than 50k given more efficient GPUs (H100 vs A100), optimized training pipelines, cheaper cloud compute, etc.

>>105646837
https://github.com/pamparamm/sd-perturbed-attention?tab=readme-ov-file#various-guidance-implementations-for-comfyui--sd-webui-forgereforge
https://cubeyoung.github.io/pladis-proejct/
will it work with nag though?

>>105646873
are you okay?

>>105646803
>They're not pulling enough user
this is true for every API >>104995647
companies keep doing this shit, making C-tier API models and letting them get lost to time. these models are not worth paying for, they do not excel in any niche and are all glorified flux variants. we would be so much farther ahead technologically if everyone just released their shit openly so it could be studied.

>>105646882
im actually a little annoyed because sonnet 4 forgot some very subtle things about the two characters (tommy having dark leaves as the pattern for his shirt, and lance having a flat top instead of a fade) so i wasted 16 minutes because i queue up prompts in batches of 4
but otherwise I'm doing alright

>>105646893
it's okay to take a break

>>105646877
It does and the order doesn't seem to matter. The PLADIS fills the pic with some weird mist tho. Or maybe I haven't figured out a good step/cfg ratio.

>>105646893
>sonnet 4 forgot some very subtle things about the two characters (tommy having dark leaves as the pattern for his shirt, and lance having a flat top instead of a fade)
why don't you use VACE instead? you'll get those character right that way

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>>105646904
>a good step/cfg ratio
the cfg is always at 1 with nag though?

>>105646911
Not for images. I have basically 80% gray pic with cfg1

>>105646906
no its just me queueing in 4's, i switched it to 2's
my fault for not auditing claude's prompts before i queue them up

>>105646901
it's not

was away, but heres an even better mcdonalds ad:

I LOVE PYTHON

>>105646930
Love her personality, hate her pinky finger

>close the only open comfy workflow
>doesn't give give you no workflow tabs
>instead automatically creates an "unsaved workflow" with some generic nodes for some reason
>open my own workflow, close the automatically created one
>"The files below have been changed. Would you like to save them before closing?"
>Have to click "No"
>No option for "Fuck Off And Never Do This Shit Again, Faggot"
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU LIKE THIS COMFY
FUCK

>>105646921
>I have basically 80% gray pic with cfg1
that shouldn't happen, the goal of NAG is to get rid of cfg, if it can't do that it's useless

>>105646823
I'm liking these. Very weird.

can anyone point me in the direction of local ai generated music?

>>105646957
This is cfg1 with NAG. Should I pump up some of the NAG values?

>AI images are yellow because of inbreeding
What's the next incorrect retard talking point normalfags will latch on to then forget about weeks later

>>105646970
It's all shit. Trust me on that. It's not even close to Suno or Udio.

>>105646980
trusting you to stay on top of it then let us know

>>105646957
It's not its goal, it "replaces" CFG only for models that can't utilize CFG (like sdxl lightning or flux schnell), for CFG-compatible models it just improves prompt adherence

>>105646945
>No option for "Fuck Off And Never Do This Shit Again, Faggot"
you could probably have gotten claude to code that option into comfy for you in the time it took you to type that spergpost out

>>105646970
its literally just YuE (i am hoping im wrong so someone angrily corrects me but I worry I am not wrong)

>>105643298
>RuntimeError: Expected all tensors to be on the same device, but found at least two devices, cuda:0 and cpu! (when checking argument for argument mat2 in method wrapper_CUDA_mm)

Doing something cool and posting it once or twice is nice.
Doing variations of the exact same thing over and over again for days, weeks or even MONTHS makes me want to hurt you.

>>105647025
>It's not its goal, it "replaces" CFG only for models that can't utilize CFG (like sdxl lightning or flux schnell)
says who? they didn't say anything like that on their paper

>>105647041
Not true, in the paper Flux NAG does indeed stay on cfg 1.0 (i.e. no cfg).

>>105647049
that's what I said, on their paper they always go for cfg 1

>>105647035
>mfw day 685 of r*cketg*rl spamming by that schizo fucktard

>>105647060
What models were they testing with?

>>105647035
i agree
but this sort of be applicable to me, so die

>>105647049
And for SDXL/SD1.5/PixArt-Σ they explicitly state in their quantitative/qualitative results that they use CFG (and in some cases even CFG+PAG)

>>105647079
>And for SDXL/SD1.5/PixArt-Σ they explicitly state in their quantitative/qualitative results that they use CFG (and in some cases even CFG+PAG)
lol, then what's the point of NAG?

>>105647079
Yeah sure, I don't think anyone expected or claimed that it would remove cfg for models that use it

We're just saying that it doesn't ADD cfg to models that didn't use it already (some people seem really confused about this and think they're supposed to start using cfg with flux nag)

>>105647085
>Yeah sure, I don't think anyone expected or claimed that it would remove cfg for models that use it
but they used Wan cfg 1 with NAG though? that's why they got that speed boost

>>105647109
>but they used Wan cfg 1 with NAG though?
no, on that comparison they compared regular Wan against distilled wan (accvid -> cfg 1) + NAG

>Hidream 2.0... not local
meh, never liked HiDream anyways
https://x.com/vivago_ai
https://xcancel.com/vivago_ai/status/1935626897314156831#m

>>105647082
To make neg prompt more useful.

>>105647082
See >>105644522
It's just an alternative way to apply negative prompt.

edgekinobros... how are we feelin?

>>105647157
so CFG and NAG work in tandem?

>>105647141
maybe this one can actually make survelliance camera/cctv footage because hidream 1.0 couldn't

dios mio...

blue hair anime girl takes off a hooded coat to reveal a white bikini.

almost but still impressive, wan is magic.

>>105647164
Yes, and they can also have different negative prompts.
Also, NAG can be applied to specific transformer blocks for speed increase. For NoobAI it can be applied only to u0,u1 blocks - this way CFG+NAG becomes only 10% slower than just CFG

>>105647266
there we go, specifics matter.

blue hair anime girl takes off a hooded coat to reveal a white bikini top and white bikini bottoms.

>>105647283
also it took the plaid of the skirt and made it the liner of the coat, kek

>>105647266
you'll get a better prompt understanding if you go for the I2V 720p model instead

>>105647275
How do you know which blocks to use in the first place?

>>105645089 (OP)
>still no >>>>/vp/napt . mentioned in the neighbors list
oof. rude.

>>105647309
>autism face

>115 days since Wan was released
>still no NSFW finetune

>>105647317
You can make nsfw loras if you're not poor, it's not like Flux

>>105647317
Idk but I feel we'll get something better than Wan this year, that's probably why no one bothered to make an expensive finetune out of it, once it'll reach the level of veo3/hailuo 2, that'll be the moment people will really put their effort on it

>Is called Open AI
>Doesn't open source
>Censors
What did they mean by this

>>105647322
That's not even close to the same thing. That's like saying "you don't need illustrious or noob cause there's plenty of anime LoRA's for SDXL".
Even if you managed to pack a bunch of concepts into one LoRA, it'll pale in comparison to what a full finetune would be capable of.

>>105645115
baker slipped his fetish in the collage kek
wasn't in the previous thread
he is clearly, sadly, insane.
oof.

>>105647350
Wrong, because SDXL also is incapable of nsfw with only a lora. Wan learns pussies and everything associated with them just fine with a lora.

>>105647342
When you realize the meaning of (((they))) there, everything will be clear.

>>105647331
This is a bad comparison. All models do crazy shit when subjects go partially off screen because GayEye doesn't have object permanence.

>>105647357
Speaking of which do you guys know of any cool Hitler LORAs or am I on my own? Ideally WAN LORAs too.

>>105647302
You can simply iterate over blocks one by one (SDXL has blocks d0-d3, m0, u0-u5) and see which one has the most impact on the image. Finetunes/merges may have different "active" blocks

>>105647363
it's even more humiliating for veo3 actually, on hailuo the character is far away, she's supposed to look like a melt of globs, yet it works fine

>>105647356
You're a retarded and obtuse faggot.

>>105647383
And you're a beggar faggot that does nothing because in reality you are a worthless piece of trash in every way that counts

>>105647315
its called smiling for the camera
normal earth humans show a bit of teeth for photo ops

>>105647317
king chromakek said he was going to do one when chroma is finished

>loras are better than finetunes
RETARD ALERT
WOOO WOOO WOOO
LEVEL 10 RETARD APPROACHING SECTOR 17
ALL HANDS MAN YOUR BATTLESTATIONS
REPEAT, ALL HANDS MAN YOUR BATTLESTATIONS

>>105647397
No, her head shape is autistic, she has autism, which is why you're so obsessed with genning it because it looks like what you see in the mirror.

>>105647405
>Bro why isn't someone spending $50k in compute for my nsfw finetune
>Flux's nsfw finetune is already deep into 5 figures so Wan should be easy!
No one is going to to do it because nsfw isn't monetizable and all the content is copyrighted and porn companies actually do sue.

>>105647377
Yeah it's pretty interesting stuff. I managed to nuke artist knowledge from NoobAI with specific block merge. I wonder what dictates specific layer knowledge link

>>105647157
https://github.com/Clybius/ComfyUI-ClybsChromaNodes
So I think his Chroma NEG is actually working

>>105647420
>No one is going to to do it
>*chroma existing*
THE RETARD IS SPLITTING OFF AND MULTIPLYING INTO SUB-RETARDS NOW

I eagerly await anon's nsfw video dataset capable of doing a finetune. 5 million clips will do.

>>105647430
Anon do I need to explain to you the difference of accessibility of an image dataset vs a video dataset? People barely can scrape booru sites for images and now you want them to do the same but for videos.

>>105647428
Does it slow down generation time for you?

>>105647420
Lodestone literally said he's going to look at Wan next, so... yeah, nuff said.

>>105647430
he explained to you that finetuning Wan would be way more expensive than making a Chroma finetune, you're the retard in this scenario lol

gooning breeds innovation

>>105647442
Chroma isn't as great as you think it is and Wan is another 10x of the requirements. You can squeak Flux into a 5090 and actually finetune it locally, you MUST have a H100 80GB card to finetune Wan.

>>105647441
a bit yes, without NAG it was 2.51 mn, with NAG it's 3.10 mn

>>105647446
>shifts goalposts to the cost now when the fact remains that he said he's going to do it
You're dumb
Stop being dumb

>>105647447
ah, that must explain why local models are still training at 512x512 in 2025!

>>105647461
>shifts goalposts to the cost
where's the shift? he told you about the cost at the very begining, stop talking this is getting embarassing
>>105647420
>Flux's nsfw finetune is already deep into 5 figures so Wan should be easy!

>>105647461
>Lode says he's going to do Chroma
>still only training on 512px images and $30k into his budget
>clearly stalling and starting to burn on certain keywords
I'll be honest anon, Chroma is cool but it's not looking great.

>>105647446
>talking about himself in the third person
kek

>>105647376
hard to imagine WAN doesnt know who Hitler is, especially since they can make Nazis and Swastikas just fine

>>105647458
NAG slows down gens
my hypeboner for trying it out has deflated 30%

>>105647477
>it's impossible that 2 people can argue with me at the same time, must be a samefag
must be nice living in such delusion desu

>>105647461
Cost literally matters you fucking retard. Because if Chroma is going to be $50k, Wan will be at least $100k and that's assuming he even manages to scrape together a dataset which I also already said is much harder than getting than images. I always find it funny too because someone like you could be putting together a dataset even on your mother's laptop but you can't even do that.

honestly it's magic how wan works. how does it figure out to morph clothes into a bikini for example.

Some random coomer says he's hoping for a wan nsfw finetune and you retards sperg the fuck out about it. Fucking lol, I love these threads

>>105647494
Shit in one hand and hope in the other.

>>105647494
I bet you winkle when you tinkle, dummy.

I hope Meta accidentally donates me a H100 cluster with no oversight and they forget I have it a month later.

neat

blue hair anime girl transforms into a red hair anime girl with long hair.

local AI is literally a cargo cult

>>105647521
multiple transforms work too:

blue hair anime girl transforms into a red hair anime girl with long hair, and her outfit transforms into a maid outfit.

why does chroma always gen trannies?
i prompted a woman showing her butthole and it gens shemale
i add trans and shemale to negative and still gens a woman with balls

goddamn why does traininga chroma lora take so long. 11 hours is too long of a time to not do shit at my pc

>>105647555
It's even better when you gen for female masturbation. it either turns their hands and privates into mince or gives em a dick, even when you say "fingering"

>>105647162
>edgekinobros
based

>>105645108
You just signed up for the job. Welcome aboard, anon.

set length to 160 (2x) and it seemed to turn out fine, just more gen time ofc

>>105647428
here's another example, it seems to improve some stuff but Chroma is so bad at anatomy desu

>>105647595
trying 180 now, maybe it will work with this lora

>>105646877
>https://cubeyoung.github.io/pladis-proejct/
that looks impressive, it's obvious that we havsn't reached the full potential of models by simply using CFG

>>105647428
>>105647597
an anon previous said it worked best with only one or two negatives and the rest without NAG

i will NOT drink your snakeoil

>>105647613
>an anon previous said
where?

>>105647555
They have fucked up something with tagging the basic anatomy or the dataset just doesn't have enough hetero sex.

>>105647613
Yeah I read some github discussion where people claimed it's better to use with separate negative prompt that has only few main tags

>>105647580
Pathetic, desperate and sad.

>>105647642
>Pathetic, desperate and sad.
W-what did I do? :(

>>105647555
>why does chroma always gen trannies?
because that guy is a furry so he's automatically on the LGBT squad, he has pronouns in bio and shit, some troon friends of him probably asked him to add some trannies in there

>>105647555
>>105647642
its because he trained it on E SIX TWO ONE YOU RETARDS

>>105647654
futa isn't tranny tho

>>105647597
>Chroma is so bad at anatomy
That's the real killer. The anatomy is fucking horrible. Flux hands derped out now and then, but nowhere near as often or as bad as chroma

>>105647659
the model won't know, e621 classifies trannies and futas as the same thing

tomorrow we will see if WAN can generate binocular vision or sniper scope vision

>>105647555
skill issue? or maybe you're brain-broken and think everyone has a penis
projecting your fetish maybe

>>105647681
E = MChicken

>>105647667
It uses futanari and dickgirl separately. So just add both to your negative. I don't know why it would favor it regardless unless it's overtraining on those tags for some reason. Too much of it?

>>105647555
>>105647683
no dude, now i prompted trans woman and add vagina to negative and it gens a real woman LOL what a meme.
last version i tested was v31 and and the gens were kino even with shit prompts, now im getting deformed people most of the time

Fresh

>>105647690
>>105647690
>>105647690

Fresh

NEW
>>105647685
>>105647685
>>105647685
NEW

here we go

>>105647695
>>105647697
are you fucking serious?

>>105647697
i like this one better, no offense other famalam

>>105647695
>Fres-ACK
thanks for nuking that one anon, I was sick and tired of thread splits

>>105647701
>>105647705
>>105647712
lean to wait before you react

>>105647717
>lean to wait before you reA-CKt

>>105647442
>wan destroyed by cartoon and furry porn, yeah i'm so looking forward to that, NOT.

>>105647717
learn to announce the bake before baking, sis

>>105647732
this, he didn't do a good job on Chroma so why should I care about Wan lol

AudioX prompt: heavy rain with thunder
https://voca.ro/1n2V3NpA8WEA

It's cool that we have real-time audio generation, especially for movie/cartoon/game development, although all text/video2audio models are censored.

>>105646365
You need to write "2girls" in your mask prompts, not "1girl".