>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/DYQCcJwH

Previous: >>105643859

You're leaving about 15% performance on the table going aylmao

>AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.

Memeshill btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWTot0wwaEU
DLSSissies, our response?

>>105651171
Dlss is more widespread and overall just better amd needs another 2,3 years then again next year dlss 5 is gonna come out with new shit

>105651161
>50 series is very good sarr please buy sarr!!! NO!!! SARR NO!!! DO NOT REDEEM THE 9070 XT SARR!!! 5070 ti IS WORTH THE RUPEES SARRR NOOO!!!!!

You wanna try shilling Aylmao harder next time mate

>>105651100
We're so back.

How do you cool the back of your gpu?

>>105651183
>Dlss is more widespread
FSR 4 via optiscaler works in most games even nvidia tech demos like alan wake 2, cyberpunk, black myth wukong etc.
Daniel Owen even made a video about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEcESQhJVfE

The common man doesn't have to pay the ngreedia tax anymore to get an upscaler with good image quality. RDNA 4 chads will be modding FSR 4 into all your sponsored nvidia exclusive games and there is nothing you can do about it nvidiot.

Open source modding won. RDNA 4 won. Radeon won. AMD won. Jack Huynh
won. Lisa Su won. And most importantly gamers won.

cope below

>>105651305
higher case airflow

how the HECK do you know what settings to turn on or off in the AMD software? I'm feeling so overwhelmed...

>>105651305
Those temps are nothing to worry about.

>>105651328
turn off everything except freesync, you mainly only use the gpu tuning part

what fans are the quietest

>>105650476
Update: DHL redemption arc. They just delivered it to me!!! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

>>105651352
Pure Wings 3 from be Quiet is decent for the price ($12).
Adjust the fan curves of your existing case fans before you buy new ones.

>AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.

5080S when

>>105651352
All I've ever used are arctic p12-s and a couple deepcool fans that came with my old aircooler, quiet as a kitten

>>105651328
Just leave everything default pretty much and you can try some of the features and decide if you like it but most of it is a meme.
These are some notable ones in the gaming graphics tab you may or may not want to use
Radeon image sharpening can be nice and make games look a bit sharper obviously
AFMF 2.1 is framegen but I'd only use it if there is no in-game framegen
Anti lag reduces latency a little bit but only in gpu bound scenarios
Radeon chill is dumb if you use it the way it's explained but if you set the minimum and max fps to the same value it will work as an fps cap
Enhanced Sync let's you run games at fps higher than your monitors refresh rate to get the reduced latency and input lag benefit without screeb tearing, useful perhaps if you tryhard esports slop like valorant or whatever garbage and want every advantage you can get.
If you have a 9000 series gpu you'll also have the option to override fsr4 into approved fsr3.1 games here that are on the compatibility list, this list also has the games that support anti lag 2 (there are not many) which is better than normal anti lag in the adrenalin software and you should use it instead.
https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming-discussions/latest-amd-fsr-2-3-4-amp-radeon-anti-lag-2-supported-games-list/m-p/549534

Adrenalin let's you make game profiles so you can have these enabled on a per game basis for the ones where you like using them and not in the ones you don't.

i just boughted the 5060ti 16GB

did i fuck up? it was 440€

>>105651139 (OP)
wow that gpu looks so cool but they should have painted heat sink white too they should repease 9070XTX3DLUL

https://x.com/Sebasti66855537/status/1935791186297454936?t=SmffHso85kLdva2HKkCrnA&s=19

https://x.com/Sebasti66855537/status/1935791519492915679?t=SmffHso85kLdva2HKkCrnA&s=19

Very cool

>>105651529
>>105651341
thank you, i'll give it a shot!

>>105651305
Stock intel fan without the heatsink. Sit it over the core and you'll be fine.

>>105651558
preset k has been insane even on a 3000 card

>look at ebay for some RAM
>filter by desired capacity
>results are a complete pile of shit because sellers seemingly don't know how to input basic information
>why yes, 1x8gb IS the same as 2x32gb when searching for 64gb total capacity
I'm getting unreasonably salty about this.

>build nearly 5k pc just to play modded skyrim VR
>it's every bit as beautiful as I imagined it would be, better maybe even

>>105651305
Waterblock with an active backplate.

>>105651305
>How do you cool the back of your gpu?
the metal backplate it comes with does the trick.

>>105651635
Index at least?

Should i buy this for this specs Gigabyte H310M H 2.0 (motherboard) , Intel Core i5 9400F (CPU) ?

Real question, should i buy 5080, or buy a 9070xt and wait for 5080ti

>>105651721
no, you will not be able to run it at it's advertised speed.

>>105651721
>>105651721
I have this ram and it sucks. They use the shittiest fail bins and it's terrible for oc and tuning. Definetly not worth almost 70 dollars in 2025. You can probably find that kit used on Facebook marketplace or a better kit even for cheaper.

>>105651771
Yeah, i know. But will it work fine?

>>105651774
>and it sucks
Any good rams i could use for that motherboard then? From Amazon i mean

There is also all this. But no idea which ones good choice

>>105651781
>Yeah, i know. But will it work fine?
Probably not, just buy some used set of green sticks on ebay running at 2666mhz. Much more fitting.

always buying intel/nivida
it just works
simple as

>>105651721
The board's official memory support lists 2666MHz with a caveat (XMP can run on 8th gen CPU).
No harm in buying a 3200MT/s XMP profile kit. If XMP doesn't work or is unstable, you can disable it and run it at the 2666 JEDEC/stock speed.
But I would not pay a premium for that kit when the same spec DIMM is available for $50.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FKKKHx/klevv-bolt-x-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-kd4agu880-36a180u
Klevv is a reputable kit manufacturer, they are owned by the memory chip manufacturer SK Hynix.
It's like Micron owning the Crucial brand.

Your CPU can run 3200MT/s btw.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/c09bi3/i59400f_ddr42666_vs_ddr43200_should_you_spend_a/

QVL link
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_h310m-h-2.0_20191128.pdf?v=5c61bc7528d069b1a9cf2c73cca99dd2

>>105651605
yeah i use it on my 3080. even dlss performance at preset k looks freaking great at 4k on a 55 inch 4k tv

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-7-265kf-gets-another-price-cut-now-starting-at-229-40-vs-launch-price

Actually a good deal now

>>105651845
worth it

>>105651829
Thanks a lot for answer. One last thing, if i still go with Corsair Vengeance LPX . Would it work fine without issues? Asking due to timing of it 16-20-20-38

How is this PC case?

>>105651856
My bad, that post recommended a 3600MT/s Klevv kit, don't get that.
Get this PNY CL16 3200MT/s.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HRG2FT/pny-xlr8-gaming-low-profile-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-md32gk2d4320016lp
PNY is a reliable brand, they sell workstation/data center hardware too.

The uncertainty is your motherboard, but that board's QVL shows it can supply 1.35V to the memory modules so it will depend on how restrictive the rest of the BIOS is.
The 2666MT/s JEDEC kits on Amazon cost like $45, so it's better to gamble on this XMP kit. Worst case you overpaid by $5.

thoughts on GIGABYTE B850 EAGLE?

>>105651914
PNY, huh? Never used that brand before. Interesting. Also so many buy and even Amazon recommends that Corsair one?

>>105651725
You should buy a 5070 Ti and surprisingly realize that you don't need more.

>>105651894
Too small.

>buying cpus before AVX10.2 APX

>>105651945
Because Corsair is a popular normie brand, it doesn't mean anything in terms of QA.
PNY is trustworthy enough to be NVIDIA's data center hardware partner.

Samsung, SK Hynix, Micron, and CXMT are the ones making the actual memory chips in these modules.
Most memory brands are just contracting an OEM in Taiwan or China to build their memory kit designs.
I believe GSkill is one of the few memory brands with its production facilities.

I want to install a WD Black SN850 and it has a heatsink. Should I use that one or remove and use the one from my mobo?

>>105651993
Speaking of Corsair again . I heard Corsair's Patriot Viper Steel are good.

>>105651894
should be ok, though just stick to mATX or ATX if you're not traveling much

>>105651960
i'm still on a 3080 >>105651832 with no reason to upgrade after almost 4 years. it's more powerful than a ps5 pro and way more powerful than a ps5/xbox so it's aged extremely well. dlss and all the nvidia tools like reflex really make gaming a breeze even at 4k. a 5070ti will last at least another 5 years even at 4k.

>>105651914
What low profile means here in name by the way?

>>105651894
Be *very* careful with that you buy and try to put into it, because you'll run into unexpected fitting issues.
For example, Arctic coolers are a no-go most of the time because the height of the radiator usually doesn't leave enough space for mothervoard heat spreaders, or sometimes even the ram. Most tower fan coolers shouldn't lrese t this problem, it's just AIO's you have to be careful for.
Make sure the graphics card will fit length-wise into the build. Also if you plan to put bottom fans in the case or have a HDD, then the GPU slot placement on the mobo will come into play since you'll need to make sure there's even clearance at the bottom.

>>105652024
It just means the memory sticks have a relatively lower height compared to other XMP kits out in the market.
Memory kit height matters if you have a massive CPU cooler heatsink.

>>105652039
Ah. Low profile name makes sense then

>>105651938
Would not pay full price for it, but it's discounted to $140 in Newegg atm.
Good value in that discount.

>>105652037
Also on this, it'd recommend checking out build pictures on PC part picker since it'll highlight potential problems. Here's a some examples of how tight the fit can end up being:
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/vT4dnQ
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/Kc3Zxr
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/xvPV3C

>>105652011
The preinstalled heatsink on these SSDs usually performs better than the ones included in your motherboard.
You might also void the warranty on that SSD if you remove the heatsink.

>>105652011
Use whichever really, though generally ones on mobos look nicer.

ram is so cheap right now wtf. everyone should be on 64gb at least

>>105652143
Alright I won't remove it. Not sure about warranty, it's a couple years old already. It was in a bundle with my PS5 and I never used it. Only found it recently kek
>>105652153
True, the mobo one does look nicer

>>105651139 (OP)
>AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

Can the next baker fix the OP please?

5080's just not worth it especially when 5080 super 24GB is coming soon

You only get 16GB just get the 5070TI

>>105652233
It doesn't matter what the OP says, most PC gamers prefer to own a GeForce card.
They're literally willing to pay more for them.

>he fell for the cheap chink fan meme

>>105651661
99% of backplates are just cosmetic, and don't utilize any pads between it and the PCB.

>>105651661
picrel if you need it to be overkill for some reason

>>105652281
Product which hasn't been made since what, pascal/vega?

rate my build
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/4ybMxg
the ssd is from a previous PC

noob here, should I be concerned if my 13700 (non-k) occasionally has a spike to 88-90c? It averages about 70c under load and 28-30c idle, but once in a while when I'm playing demanding games it jumps to 88-90c for only a second or two and then immediately drops back down. this only happens maybe once an hour, I assume when big assets are loading or something

This chip makes MB vendors piss their pants in fear

>>105652412
modern cpu does that, as long as you aren't thermal throttling it's fine

I'm too stupid. I want to install three more fans, two at the top, one at the bottom. Which direction should they be?

>>105652373
Based super flower user.

>>105652440
don't do top intake if there isn't a dust filter though, the one at bottom face upward

>>105652373
Pretty standard parts, overkill PSU but it's nice.
You got a good deal for that CPU.

>>105652440
Top should be exhaust, bottom intake as a rule.

>>105651139 (OP)
Why don't they make aftermarket coolers for gpus anymore? I'm tired of nigger rigging aios

>>105652373
good shit

>>105652468
There is a filter. It's the beQuiet Shadowbase 800 FX
>>105652471
Both top as exhaust? Or like that other anon 's image, 1 exhaust 1 intake?

>>105652440
bottom is always intake, top can be either intake or exhaust

>>105652493
As anons image assuming a tower cooler of some sorts.

>>105652484
People are entirely too afraid of taking a GPU apart.
Anytime someone looks to install just a waterblock, others assume it's going to break for whatever reason

>>105652468
dont do top intake ever if you are also top exhausting.
just gonna intake a bunch of hot air

>install my first NVME earlier
>try to take off the sticker assuming it's like every other component
>rip the end a little bit and then realize i should look up whether it should actually be removed
>apparently it's some kind of basic bitch heatsink
narrowly avoided

>>105652484
Not enough market demand, so the one available for the RTX 30 charged a high premium to cover the R&D and manufacturing costs. (over $150).
The best you can do is a deshroud mod and connect better fans to the card.

>>105652166
You just know ram factories are gonna be flooded and have all its inventory destroyed incidentally this week

That how i understand the next 6 hours will be good.

>>105652711
a tree with not many polygons?

>>105651797
I overclocked my cheapest green F-die Crucial CL22 DDR4 sticks to 3933, but my second gen Ryzen can't go further.

>>105652166
They are making memory chips with new nanometers and it improves density. I donno if there any 2 nanometer RAM avialable, but its near 2 years.

How bad is it to use a PSU that is over 10 years old?
In what ways does age affect them?
Would it be stupid to re-purpose it for a new budget build?

>ebay is flooded with 4090 pcb's with the cores and vram stripped out shipping from china
4090D's also getting dumped on there now (crazy pricing though)
i wonder if we'll start seeing modded vram cards soon

>>105652870
your old PSU may just "pop" and it could potentially take things with it, i was lucky when mine popped that nothing else broke (i'm not too sure how common damage to other components is though tbf)

>>105652616
>passive
>can't handle 400w
>in a consumer case
No shit. With fans I bet its a beast.

How do you survive in summer? Its 30°C here now and it's hot as fuck. I've been playing with my side panel off and my temps are OK in the 50-60 range for CPU and 70-80 range for GPU but it makes my room extremely fucking hot.

>>105652972
It's intended to be used with case fans, not included for cost control.
Such a terrible deal however you want to spin it.

Anons, is there good pc building tutorial? The inserting PC parts , cable managment part only.

>>105653019
Set reasonable power limits and undervolt the processors.
Buy power-efficient components to begin with.

>>105653023
Yeah but the cooling capabilities of those is monstrous.

>>105653050
The total cost is not worth it (+$200 from the reference card), and those double-sided tapes for the VRM heatsinks are known to lose adherence over time.
These are targeting older cards, just deal with the noise/heat and spend the savings on a higher-tier video card the next time you buy one.

Likelihood of a 9950X3D successor like the 11950X3D (or whatever) releasing this year?

>>105653050
Why don't people use these clips instead of zip ties to mount their deshroud fans? Works fine for CPU coolers.

>>105653116
AMD has 0 reason to rush the release of these chips.
Arrow Lake Refresh will be outmatched by the 9800X3D.

>>105653135
Good because I just spent $700

>>105653143
Not worth it purely for gaming.
You wouldn't even notice the difference if someone swapped your CPU out to a 9800X3D, or even a 7800X3D.

>>105653042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1fxZ-VWs2U&t=2431s
At 40:31
As worthless of a channel as it is, sometimes they have good videos mostly thanks to /ourgirl/ Emily

The x3d processors, they're basically just gaming or what all do they actually hold up for? Like I know that they're not weak by any metric, but for more of a mixed use pc I don't understand what's wrong with both Raptor Lake (with patches) and Arrow lake (with price cuts)

>>105653042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT36IDSQBX4

>use optiscaler on Expedition 33 for FSR4
>every cutscene is a black screen

>>105652256
It matters for the newbs.

>>105653280
The noobs will be just fine with the cards listed in the OP, I didn't make it btw.
If they want to run NVIDIA stuff like DLSS or Instant Replay, they'll get a GeForce card or ask about them in these threads.

>>105652610
You also lose warranty if you take the sticker off. You should probably get an actual heatsink for it anyway.

>>105653311
i did a few benchmarks and I haven't seen it go past 60c so far despite it being a pretty hot day here so it should be fine without one, for the time being at least

>>105653267
>using FSR
Game supports Xess 2.0.

>>105653230
3D CPUs are for anything that takes advantage or benefits from a massive L3 cache. Which games love, especially at lower resolutions. They're also more forgiving if you use cheaper RAM and are more efficient in general. Typically with the previous Ryzen 7000 series you had to choose if you wanted gaming or workstation use. 7800X3D outperformed the more expensive CPUs in gaming for example. With Ryzen 9000, if you can afford it, the high end CPUs do workstation AND gaming.

>>105653074
>The total cost is not worth it (+$200 from the reference card)
Bruh, have you seen the premiums AIBs are charging for a better cooler?

I can buy a reference card with a waterblock and still be better off than some aftermarket cards.

>>105653230
Cache has been king for 40 years.

>>105653367
>Bruh, have you seen the premiums AIBs are charging for a better cooler?
Going from a Prime to a TUF, Ventus to a Gaming X, or a Windforce to a Gaming OC costs about the same, with no dis/assembly required.

>I can buy a reference card with a waterblock
Except waterblocked cards need a complete loop/pump/rad purchase, and you'll need to flash the vBIOS to increase the power limits to make the most out of this setup.

>>105652831
>2 nanometer RAM avialable, but its near 2 years.
They're not even close to developing 2nm DRAM, the chips in HBM4 are using 10nm DRAM.
https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-shipment-1g-1-gamma-dram-pioneering-memory

>>105653698
Is not memory chips much more simplier than CPUs?

>this thread

>>105652543
Fractal and Noctua definitely know more about this than you

Three front, one rear, one top rear. The perfect setup.

>>105653280
Well they aren't listening nobody is buying AMD GPUs

>>105653747
rear fans are unnecessary and a boomer ass relic from when it was the only case fan you got

>>105653651
>Going from a Prime to a TUF, Ventus to a Gaming X, or a Windforce to a Gaming OC costs about the same, with no dis/assembly required.
Only because the low-end cards are inflated to the moon already.
>Except waterblocked cards need a complete loop/pump/rad purchase
When a 5080 Tuf is like $600 over sticker, you're getting into loop territory

>>105653162
> You wouldn't even notice the difference if someone swapped your CPU out to a 9800X3D
Nta but I would definitely notice when heavy workloads like installing torrented games suddenly take near double the time to finish. Then there is the annoying precompiling of shaders at the start of games that would also take much longer again than I got used to by now.

>>105653711
It's difficult to further scale down the capacitors in each memory cell, that's why HBM is stacking the memory chips.
https://semiengineering.com/dram-scaling-challenges-grow/
https://news.samsung.com/global/exploring-the-key-samsung-technologies-that-enabled-10nm-class-dram

>>105652870
even the most premium psus have a 12y warranty
how poor do you have to be to consider this? it's on it's last legs
electronics age

>>105653116
leaks said late 2026 or something it's 12-18 months away easily

>>105653162
false poorfag cope

>>105653230
raptor lake needs ecores disable to reach peak pcore perf and does wonky shit with it enabled in some games that may or may not have been patched, they are exlusively for 8000mhz ram amdip tweakers like jufus

arrow lake fixed the e-core problem so you can run it full die without getting cucked, but your performance in gaymes is down the shitter, so they suck cocks or are a production cpu

these are the problems

if you are a amdip tweaker schizo, raptor lake
if you are a production cuck, arrow lake maybe?

>>105653267
>just use 5000 tweaks and mods to play this game at optimal style
too lazy for all that garbage

>>105653747
3 top fan exhaust (aio) ackshually

>>105653839
>paypig maxxing
>still using warez in the worst form they have ever been in with these shitty as gay ass "space saving" repacks
literally fucking abysmal what the "scene" has turned into
give me a raw install I don't wanna unpack your gay shit for 50 hours

anyway, looks like intels 50 ecore meme might be the ultimate shader compiler/poofit installer after all??

>>105653839
>like installing torrented games
>annoying precompiling of shaders
How many games do you install every day? How many shaders are you precompiling every day?

>suddenly take near double the time to finish
Performance doesn't scale linearly with more cores. Go ahead and compare the actual time it took to install these torrented games with 8 or 16 cores.

>>105653787
The market has already spoken, not enough people were willing pay for that $150 aftermarket video card heatsink.
That thing makes the NH-D15 G2 look like a bargain considering it's bundling two of the best 140mm fans available in the market ($90 value).
Plus, these newer cards have better heat sinks compared to the RTX 30 cards to begin with.

>>105653898
>The market has already spoken, not enough people were willing pay for that $150 aftermarket video card heatsink.
Yet plenty still buy blocks

>>105653906
Because custom water cooling offers the best practical cooling performance for a daily system.
That $150 Morpheus heatsink performs nowhere near a custom water-cooled solution.

>>105653860
The "space saving" repacks allowed me to download and store over 800 games without going bankrupt, I'm very grateful for this comfy service. Saved me many times the money of a 16-core, many times the money of even my whole system!

>>105653143
Welcome to our exclusive Club! The time that our "precious" saves us is worth every penny of it.

>>105653973
If you have time to shitpost on 4Chan, your time is no more precious than ours.
Enjoy the exclusive Process Lasso / Game Bar club.

>>105653906
blocks are about aesthetics and epenis first and performance is just a bonus

And that's the real reason nobody buys those aftermarket heatsinks now they were ugly and only cheapskate performance autists cared about them

So why the fuck are 9070xts not msrp? Are retards really buying a 600 dollar card for 900 dollars?

>>105653990
Because AIBs can make more money.
Retailers offer MSRP models for sale whenever they're restocked.

>>105653981
9800X3D drones seething at the 9950X3D? AMDrones are such consolecucks lmao

YOU CAN ONLY BUY THIS ONE CPU
YOU CAN ONLY BUY THIS ONE GPU

Go buy a playstation and fuck off back to /v/ lmao

>>105653990
You can find them for MSRP everywhere except America because AMD only supplies Microcenters in America

>>105654002
>'Boots up game'

>>105653898
> How many games do you install every day? How many shaders are you precompiling every day?
On average, only one per day I guess. Precompiling shaders is done more often. If possible I just mod the game to skip it but updates of game files or GPU driver always trigger or require a recompile and then I love to mod games to my liking, often also requiring recompiling shaders (and uncompressing/compressing game archives btw) The time saved by using 32 instead of 16 threads probably sums up to several hours/week.

>>105654063
You spend more time gaming doing all that crap. Look at this coping faggot.

Thoughts on PCIE 5 drives? They're getting really cheap, but I don't benefit from the speeds and I don't want another hot computer component.

>>105651139 (OP)
Am I the only one who sees a goofy face in the OP pc? The two fans are cross eyes and the red gpu is a mouth.

>>105654073
>I need the cores for non-gaming tasks
>here's this chart of FPS in games
This is the same amdrone telling you to buy the 9070XT btw lmao

>>105654086
goddammit can't unsee

>>105654076
Gen 4 is more practical (still too good for most needs), Gen 5 is for the sake of getting a newer hardware.

>>105654123
Except I specifically said
>Not worth it purely for gaming.
In the reply that started this convo. Someone's awfully insecure.

>>105654162
Yeah and you got told it's not just for gaming
which is why the 9950X3D exists
back to your consolecuck shit now lol, go boot up a game buddy

>>105651183
DLSS/FSR will be obsolete tech five years from now.
Everyone acts like this is some kind of mandatory tech games can't do without. This is just PhysX and Havok, (I know Havok wasn't Radeon, it's not always Nvidia vs. AMD) Mantle and NVAPI.
Just a thing for devs to jack off to at each other for a decade and then it'll become an unmentioned backgroud checkbox while they jerk off at each other over the latest thing.
You think it's bad now? Just wait until quantum processing. And then we can all shitpost each other over the per-qbit pixel weighing benchmarks on our $6000 GPUs for our $180 Call Of Duty Black Ops XIX Operation Israeli freedom sponsored by Carruthers Auto Mall™

>>105654193
>it's not just for gaming
Its gaming performance is the main selling point, Lisa Su approved.
See that CPU? 1 CCD.
Go back to unpacking your 800 games, your freak show of a use case is not representative of the target market.

>>105654198
>DLSS/FSR will be obsolete tech five years from now.
Couldn't be more wrong. They're in all forms of modern consoles now. Adoption of upscaling and frame gen will only speed up.

>>105654209
>Its gaming performance is the main selling point, Lisa Su approved.
oh yeah that's true
But it's actually a real CPU too and doesn't fall apart when it comes to actual CPU tasks
But if your "PC" is simply just a console for booting up games, I can see why many settle for the 9800X3D, it's a great gaming only CPU.

>>105654258
>when it comes to actual CPU tasks
8 cores is more than enough for most "actual CPU tasks".
The fact that you can only bring up 800 games worth of repack & shader precompilation shows the 9800X3D is great for the average DIY PC gamer.

>>105654251
>Couldn't be more wrong.
No, I'm right. You can screencap this. It want matter. And you really need to learn to read before you get emotional. I didn't say upscaling and framegen won't exist. But DLSS/FSR won't and they won't be discussed. Just like games still have physics and we don't talk about PhysX or how games have low-level access to GPUs now but we don't talk about Vulkan or "mantle" any more.
I'm not wrong, I'm 100% right, you're just illiterate and angry.

>>105654251
Speed up? It's already fully adopted

>>105654286
>8 cores is more than enough for most "actual CPU tasks
Yeah, nah. 16 just runs so much better.
That 9800X3D is slower than a 12900K when it comes to non-gaming
But sure go ahead, when you're ONLY gaming wooo lets go 9800X3D

Pre-owned Rx6800 or a new 9070XT for 1440p? 6800 is half the price.

>>105654295
I don't have to screencap your worthless post.
DirectSR is already set up to ease the implementation of these proprietary upscalers.
This is how Optiscaler can trick games into enabling FSR4.

>At the heart of DirectSR lies our collaboration with AMD, Intel, and NVIDIA.
>Together, we’ve built this API to seamlessly leverage the capabilities of their in-market upscaling technologies.
>DirectSR enables multi-vendor SR through a common set of inputs and outputs, allowing a single code path to exercise DLSS Super Resolution, FidelityFX™ Super Resolution, and XeSS.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directsr-preview/
https://github.com/optiscaler/OptiScaler

That little commentary of yours was stale the moment you posted it.

>>105654320
Most people who are considering a 9800X3D don't need the extra cores in a 9950X3D.
It's correct to suggest people get the 9800X3D if they're prioritizing gaming performance and don't need the extra CCD.
Don't act so insecure about this fact.

>>105654329
Look dude, you got embarrassed for speedreading and you're angry, I get it, but you can stop shitposting the thread. you're arguing something I never said. Please calm down and read my original post again.

>>105654348
>read my original post again.
>'DLSS/FSR will be obsolete'
Microsoft is helping game developers painlessly add these propriety upscalers into their games.
Look dude, you got embarrassed for posting an irrelevant opinion piece. I get it, but you can stop shitposting the thread.

Man 16 is such a great number of cores to have. Sure 8 is good too, I think that's the number in the xbox right? In the Switch 2? something like that Gamers love 8 cores, I can see why so many PC games are saying that's what you need for minimum settings these days.

>>105654346
Yep for GAMING ONLY the 9800X3D is the priority choice

>>105654369

>>105654375
Oh here comes muh minimum spec FUD, kek.

>>105654384
There are proprietary training and inference algorithms at play concerning these proprietary upscalers.
Upscalers won't be standardized until everyone else catches up to NVIDIA in terms of quality, performance, and resource efficiency.

>>105654383
Which was my original point. I accept your concession.

>>105654414
Yep, GAMING ONLY = 9800X3D
It will last the console generation!

>>105654384
>DLSS and FSR won't go away
yeah we already know that

>SIX. HUNDRED. WATTS.

>>105654425
The PS5 Pro already costs nearly $700 (without disc player).
Continue to delude yourself that Sony is going to increase the physical CPU core count of the PS6.
They just need to use something better than the underclocked laptop Ryzen 3800 in the PS5, there's 2~3 generations worth of affordable CPUs to choose from.

>It will last the console generation!
Next-gen launch titles are going to have cross-generation support because neither MS nor Sony can afford to lose the revenue from their existing install base (see launch game timeline in pic).

>>105654487
Yes we all know 8 cores is the limit for gaming, well established and why all the consoles have them, all the future consoles will have them and why the 9800X3D has 8 cores, for gaming. It's an excellent gaming CPU. For gaming. Like in the consoles. The gaming consoles.

>>105654482
Only if you insist on every single frame. It also allows you to run on less power with marginal losses.

>>105651139 (OP)
Let's fuckin go

i'm looking to upgrade my laptop's nvme ssd and i have two options, gen3 with dram or gen4 without dram. which one would you go for a boot drive and why?

>>105654383
9950X3D is even a tad better and if a CPU is used to do anything besides gaming it is miles ahead.

>>105652059
>Would not pay full price for it
how come? I know it's cheap but does it have any problems?

>>105654513
Most PC gamers don't need a CPU with more than 8 cores, even accounting for their general computing & professional loads.
Those who need more cores don't come to /pcbg/ to justify their purchase.

>>105654577
It's a bang-average board, why don't you tell me the standout features of it?
These cheaper gaming boards are used in entry-level prebuilt gaming PCs.

>>105654543
samsung pro or samsung evo. gen 3-4 depends on your laptop - if it has gen-3 slot then anything above gen 3 will still be limited by gen 3 speeds.

>>105654578
You don't "need" a gaming pc in the first place. You want it.
Some people want a 16-core. And it has considerable advantages that poorfags prefer to downplay.

>>105654562
Yep
>>105654578
That's true. Most PC gamers are on 6 cores, that jump to 8 cores finally gets them into PS5/Xbox/9800X3D territory. Time they upgraded. To what modern consoles come with.

>>105654632
Modern consoles don't let games use 2 of the 8 cores. They're reserved for the OS.
The 8 cores on the 9800X3D are overspecced.

>>105654625
>Some people want a 16-core.
I don't stand in the way of those people.
I tell people the 9800X3D is good enough for a gaming PC.

>>105651305

>>105654601
it has a gen4 slot since the factory ssd is a micron 3400 which also comes with dram cache. my options now are either the 970 evo plus or the 990 evo plus. both are priced the same, but the former is gen3 with dram and the latter is gen4 without dram.

>>105654562
>9950X3D is even a tad better
Facts say otherwise >>105654073
The 9950X3D performs barely better than a 7800X3D.

Do less powerful cpus idle at lower temps? Like if everything else is identical will an i9 be hotter at idle than an i5 or i7?

>>105654809
If you keep the recommended power-saving features on, the differences in idle temp should be minimal.

I was confused when Asus driver hub and driver booster wanted me to install AMD graphics driver. But it seems it's from my ryzen 7 9800X3D integrated graphics. Should I update the driver or ignore if I never use it?

Not sure if this is the place to ask for laptops. Got a job that involves travelling for work and my shitter laptop 10 years old. I see a lenovo legion and asus vivobook pro with pretty much same specs on clearance locally for dirt cheap on clearance/refurbished. Only games I really play recently is wow classic and tabletop sim, wanting anything crazy. I think Asus looks less autistic and gamer-like but I don't have any experience with their laptops. I heard Lenovo is fairly reliable.

$640.00 CAD
Lenovo Legion 5 16IRX9 Gaming Laptop w/ GeForce RTX 4060, Core™ i7-14650HX, 16GB, 1TB SSD, 16in WQXGA, WiFi 6E, Win 11 Home

$740.89 CAD
Asus Vivobook Pro 15 OLED N6506MV-DS71-CA Notebook w/ Geforce RTX 4060, Core™ Ultra 7 155H, 16GB, 1TB, 15.3in OLED, WiFi 6E, Win 11

>>105654900
ASUS has the more power-efficient & newer CPU, but the OLED panel isn't recommended if you're going to play games with a lot of static images/ui like WoW or even Tabletop Sim.

>>105654900
Asus

>>105654927
oled is retarded anyways, you are literally buying a thing you can't color calibrate fully, most likely getting smashed darks, which can be only fixed with 7500+ bucks lab grade tools

>>105654900
there is another good advice, you can visit your local laptop fixers and show them the list of some laptops you like, you can even pay them so they will help you get a good laptops which are not going to tip the fuck off next morning, I think it's a great stuff,
also as far as i know 14th gen cpus have issues, but wont say something, you need to google that and check every crucial part for issues at least on reddit

>>105654844
You can ignore it, you can disable that ASUS driver hub feature in the board BIOS if you want to.
The feature is useful if you don't want to manually check for updated motherboard drivers.

>>105651161
>>105651440
>>105652233
>>105653732
What's wrong nvidiots? Don't want people to find out about the truth and superiority of the all AMD PC?
Yes the noobs that come to this thread will build their all AMD PC and find out the truth and superiority of it. Amazing value for money, incredible overclocking and undervolting potential, the best 1% lows possible due to cpu and gpu synergy with smart access memory, the best performance in non cucked ai models (7900 xtx is faster than 4090 in deepseek). A slave chooses Intel + GeForce, the ryzen master chooses all AMD.

>>105655035
>as far as i know 14th gen cpus have issues
The i7-14650HX laptop CPU is safe because its boost is capped at 5.2GHz, and these laptop chips have more restrictive V/F curves.
This CPU won't ask for anywhere near +1.55V.
>Intel® reaffirms that both Intel® Core™ 13th and 14th Gen mobile processors and future client product families – including the codename Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake families - are unaffected by the Vmin Shift Instability issue.
https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Tech-Innovation/Client/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/post/1633446

>>105655039
Also it's weird. I wanted to download the newest chipset for my 9800X3D but I can only find the Adrenaline software. The whole thing feels bloated since I don't have an AMD GPU

Whats the best ultrabudget ~$150 monitor for gayming?
thinking about getting samsung g3 24in. thots?

These are the cheapest 9070XT and 5070TI I can find in my country, just assume 1 USD equals 1000 here. I’m not really considering the 5080 since it’s twice the price and all three of these cards have 16GB anyway. I mostly want to play at 1440p and occasionally try out some VR games. Is NVIDIA really my only good option in this case?
Also, what’s the actual advantage of getting a B850 mobo over a B650? I’m leaning toward the 9700X, but I could stretch for the 9800X3D if the performance difference is really worth it.

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>105655158
Fuck it, I just installed Adrenaline as well. Asus Hub chip drivers were outdated over a month

>>105655160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYpYXlbn0rc

>>105655173
Get the 9070XT Hellhound (check online for VR performance though), either CPU choice is fine.

Just bought a new HDD since I needed some extra storage.
Any tests I should run besides checking CrystalDiskInfo?

>>105655173
Decide between Hellhound 9070XT or the Palit 5070Ti, check VR performance reviews.

>>105654127

>Building new PC
>Ikea desk setup is almost the same price
Holy shit the Swedes. Are Ikea worktop desks "worth it". I imagine it's the kinda thing you buy for life.

>>105655178
Which 5070ti? Also you sure GPU is the issue?

>>105655352
Either your PC is ridiculously low budget or your desk is ridiculously over budget. There's no way that should be happening.

>>105655361
Don't feed the troll.

>>105655433
oh geez

I'm running time spy on my new setup now. (Just hit play, if there are settings you have to pick I haven't done so). Let's see how it goes

>>105655456
If you get Steel Nomad for free, it's a more stressful raster test.

>>105655494
Alright, time spy gave me 27931 points (GPU 32599, CPU 15220). Steel nomad has a score of 8516 (only GPU, CPU isn't listed). Rate my score

so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.

>>105655534
If those scores aren't too far off the average for your CPU/GPU config, it's fine.

>>105655352
Do ikea hacks, all the music producers uses some kitchen top on some other legs. Just search for music desk ikea hack or something.

>>105655564
Time spy average is like 1k more. It's over...

>>105655615
That's only 10fps behind (3DMark score / 100 = fps), alot of people who run 3DMark benchmarks manually OC'd their CPU, GPU, and memory.

>>105655534
What GPU what CPU?

>>105655646
Yet thousands of people are willing to pay over $2,000 for it. NVIDIA knows their audience well.

>>105655620
Nice, I didn't overclock anything. Fire Strike gets me 57107 points with an average of 55728 on my GPU/CPU combination. Feels good bros
>>105655665
RTX 5080
Ryzen 7 9800X3D

>>105655682
You don't really need to run the older tests, Speed Way (RT) and Steel Nomad (raster) are the new standards.
The older tests are too easy for these GPUs, they end up becoming CPU/memory bottlenecked.

>>105655703
Timespy Extreme is still good to run, I don't know if it's available to demo users though. Regular Timespy is too CPU bottlenecked.

>>105655736
>Timespy Extreme is still good to run
Deprecated by Steel Nomad, as stated by the devs themselves.
You don't buy these new cards and wonder how well they run DX11 titles.
Regular Time Spy is good for testing CPU/memory OC scaling.

>>105655678
AMD has nothing. That's the issue. Do you want x performance well then you have to buy Y. Willing and having to are different animals.

>>105655682
>Scam "5080" that loses to much cheaper oc 9070 xt.
You fucked up since real 5080 with 4090 performance and vram is coming out this fall.

>>105655703
I see, well that explains why I'm over average there. I mainly did Fire Strike because a friend wants to compare it with his own results.
>>105655736
Don't think I saw it available but I've shut down already

>>105655753
Timespy Extreme is DX12 retard. It's ok par with Cyberpunk 4k.

>>105655768
The 5080 is one of the best at overclocking in years. Why not show apples to apples, both overclocked. You probably believed the 5070=4090 Nvidia scam since its the same thing. What a sucker.

>>105655802
So it's an earlier version of DX12, UL/3DMark don't even officially recommend you to run Time Spy anymore.
Steel Nomad is included for free. Stop wasting your time running Time Spy Extreme.

If your manual OC gets good results in Steel Nomad, it will score well in any Time Spy benchmark.
If you tune your system to get high scores in Time Spy, it can crash trying to run Steel Nomad or especially Speed Way.

are these actually noisy at any rpm? noctua is like 3x the price

>>105655907
If you want an affordable noise-optimized fan, buy the Pure Wings 3.

>>105655919
i have a be quiet psu and the fucking fan bearing is noisy as shit and the fan connector is glued with some shit so i cant even replace it
fuck that company

>>105655951
Pure Wings 3 is fan schizo (aerospace engineer) approved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vElJ4tF4vss

>>105655982
>not even a frequency spectrum
yeah idc about whoever that guy is

>>105656020
Buy that P12 Max and fuck off.

>>105655494
What annoys me about steel nomad is it is far too short.

>retards gonna have an autistic brand war over fans now
fuck this place. wccftech comments section is less spastic then this thread.

>>105656069
The answer to fans has always been to get beige if you have loadsemone and noiseblockers if not. Gentle typhoons if you are old school.

>>105655951
>be quiet psu
Yep I almost bought one, but many people were saying they were noisy. I went Seasonic and never looked back.

>>105656058
The newer benchmarks have a 1 minute run time to account for stress testing mode (20 consecutive runs).
You shouldn't be stress testing with raster-only benchmarks if you plan to play newer AAA games.
DLSS4 Feature Test is the most stressful benchmark for NVIDIA GPUs because it utilizes all the major components of the chip (CUDA, Raster, & Tensor cores).

>>105656069
>autistic brand war
It's called recommending an objectively fine fan

>'no passive mode'
Case fans are usually set to run at a constant speed, that's why you buy noise-optimized fans.

>'nylon filter obstruction'
Most new cases don't even have these dust filters anymore.

>>105656055
>but BeQuiet!’s advantage is in lower tonal peaks. It’s a trade-off.
this retard doesnt even know what A-weighting is
>>105656091
it's not noisy it's just broken

>>105656114
This guy thinks he's so smart nit-picking on a $14 fan.
You're the one who can't afford Noctua fans.

>>105656132
if i couldnt buy it i wouldnt be considering it

>>105656114
>it's not noisy it's just broken
Can't it be both?

>>105656150
Then shut the fuck up and buy it instead of considering budget fans with cost-related design/material limitations.

>>105656172
it was inaudible

USA and hopefully want to spend under $200.
Only mention of motherboards in copypasta is update ASRock BIOS to prevent melting.

For a 9700X build what is a good AM5 motherboard if I don't care about fluff, and just want the ability to use CPU+RAM without issues and the ability to upgrade GPU in future?
I don't care about RGB or anything fancy.
My build will probably be one NVME, 2-4 SATA drives, one GPU, 2 sticks of RAM, 9700X, and an air cooler.
In a few years I am willing to upgrade, so I don't care to spend unnecessary amounts today.
I miss when motherboards were cheap or on sale for like $60. Fuck all this Wi-Fi spam and ridiculous RGB that is clearly increasing prices.

>ask amdrone shill for system info
>xe disappears
Reminder that the resident amdrone got BTFO in the drama nexus thread.

>>105656356
You're supposed to link said thread if you're talking about it.

>>105656349
Gigabyte B850 Eagle is currently discounted to $140 in the US, GL finding a better deal.
Their boards also had one of the fewest reports of dead Ryzen CPUs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rf8Pxr/gigabyte-b850-eagle-wifi6e-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-eagle-wifi6e

any tips where to find cheap hdds in uk? want to get myself a couple 20tb ones

>>105656388
It's in the catalog
>>105654700

>>105656416
https://diskprices.com/?locale=uk

>>105656423
thanks anon

>>105652373
it's as good as it gets in that price range
current "default" recommended gee build if you will
I have a pretty much identical build

>>105656419
Winners

>>105652468
Can anyone with a Fractal North tell me how noisy the stock fans are? I'm already getting a Noctua cooler and rear fan. I'm debating if I should just replace them.

>>105656466
It's telling that the shill who posts shit like this >>105656148 is too ashamed to post his specs.

Want to turn my old desktop (12700kf, 1070, z690, 32gb ddr4 3600 cl18) into a home server. Any advice for a small but cheap case that fits an ATX mobo and has enough space for a few hdds?I want to keep the expenses as low as possible

>>105656574
Maybe this one, you can play around with the filters in PCPartPicker.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wNrG3C/cooler-master-case-nse400kkn2
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#t=3&J=4,20&sort=price&page=1

>>105656466
>>105656558
I've posted my hwinfo in /pcbg/ probably a dozen times. Not spoonfeeding you njudea troills/shills. Look through the archive or don/t IDC

>>105656642
>has shill images ready to go at moments notice
>can't take a screeshot
you lost akshit

>>105656388
>1Gb ethernet
I use a NAS so I find this to be a deal breaker. 2.5Gb seemed common so I figured they all had it. Evidently not. I didn't know going above gigabit would be "fancy" in 2025. I would rather not save a few bucks here just to need an add-in card.

Any other recommendations?
I'm starting to think PCI-E 5.0 is a meme considering most boards do not support it. Even on B850 apparently 5.0 is "optional" according to wiki. Just like USB4. I can probably live without it. Also that board being 5.0 x16 but 3.0 x1 in the other slots seems odd, I see other boards with their extra PCI-E slots being 4.0 so this looks like another compromise. PCI-E 3.0 is literally Ivy Bridge era shit, why is that even a thing on a modern board?

Is there an ETA on something newer coming or are we stuck with X870/X870E being the best for AM5 for the forseeable future?

>>105656055
I can confirm that be quite poor wings are silent

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LdBxdb
opinions? no drive because i already have one

Bros, please help. Been troubleshooting for 4+ hours now.

I swapped in a new PSU and GPU. My NVMe SSD is no longer recognized as a bootable device.

I've tried
1. Reseating all cables
2. Swapping M2 Slots
3. Resetting CMOS
4. Playing around with BIOS settings / Resetting to default

My next step is to just do a fresh install of windows. I'm not even sure that will work. If that doesn't, I really don't know what to do.

>>105656976
Use the spec filters on PCPartPicker, B650/E and X670/E boards should be considered if you’re searching for deals.
You just have to use the BIOS flashback feature to make them work with the 9700X if you need to.

>>105657019
Are you in the US? ASUS Prime 9070XT is available for about $720 on newegg.
Get that instead, it’s a solid model. Might run oos.
https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-rx9070xt-o16g-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814126746

>>105657070
im in EU actually, dont mind the prices

what's a good sfx power supply?

Can you recommend me a good high dpi mouse that won't die or malfunction in 6 months? I've already gone through 3 g502s and 1 deathadder v3 all with double clicking and frail cable issues
At this point I just want a top tier sensor in a reliable chassis

>>105652870
open up and VISUALLY inspect. if shit looks fucked, replace.

>>105656177
Oh look it's the noctuah Fomo faggot who would let himself get ass fucked by the Ceo of noctua yeah nobody cares about your shitty overpriced fans cruise elsewhere sodomite

>>105653842
But then why Micron ordered 2 nm or something equipment from ASML? Thats must be 2 nm memory chips.

>>105657030
Did you switch all the power cables to the ones included in the new PSU?
Try tweaking the compatibility support module settings or the equivalent.
https://www.reddit.com/r/computerhelp/comments/1e6gmvp/m2_slot_stopped_working_after_psu_swap/
https://imgur.com/a/8CtPslg

What is the product model of your new and old PSU?

>>105657070
>oos?

After sitting in my ass with my Rtx1060 for a decade, I began to build a new PC. So far, I have the AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor and a Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Video Card. No idea if it's a good investment for mid-range gaming for a few years in 1080p.

>>105657311
>double clicking
To fix double clicking you need to oil the micro switchers. Thats it.
Im using this overcomplicated chinese mouse i repaired it a lot and destroyed copper lines on the mouse board, its a real wire mess now but it still working.

>>105657424
its the goto 1080p/1440p combo

why isn't more fans better?

>>105657454

>>105657458
because of the heatsink

>>105657458
It helps if they're all face the same direction.

>>105652281
>>105652359
Last stock dried up about 4 years ago.

>>105657477
>>105657479
what

>>105657352
>Thats must be 2 nm memory chips.
It's 10nm, per Micron's official press release.

>February 25, 2025 at 9:02 AM EST
>Micron Announces Shipment of 1γ (1-gamma) DRAM: Pioneering Memory Technology Advancements for Future Compute Needs
>BOISE, Idaho, Feb. 25, 2025 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Micron Technology, Inc. (Nasdaq: MU), today announced it is the first in the industry to ship samples of its 1γ (1-gamma), sixth-generation (10nm-class) DRAM node-based DDR5 memory designed for next-generation CPUs to ecosystem partners and select customers.
>Improved bit-density output — Micron’s 1γ node, leveraging EUV lithography, design optimizations and process innovations, results in greater than 30% more bits-per-wafer output over the previous generation3 and the ability to scale memory supply efficiently.
https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-shipment-1g-1-gamma-dram-pioneering-memory

DRAM stores data in highly dense capacitors, the transistors in these capacitors are different from the logic transistors in CPUs & GPUs.
It's very difficult to apply the high aspect ratio trench etching needed to make those DRAM capacitors at lower geometries.
https://www.appliedmaterials.com/us/en/blog/blog-posts/dram-scaling-requires-new-materials-engineering-solutions.html

Thats how im reciving any important information from my Intel Arc.

>>105657458
Open test bench conditions aren't representative of how these coolers perform in a closed case.
And we don't know how hard the CPU is being stressed under those temps.

>>105657387
I was right, OOS.

>>105657458
it's a 10700k in that vid, would need a higher tdp cpu to see any significant difference

phantom spirit or peerless assassin?

thinking about upgrading. i havent bought a dedicated video card since duke nukem 3d. havent been much of a gamer. whats the safest place to get a used gpu?

also is the xfx swift a good brand?

>>105657614
eBay because they got buyer protection. Give me a budget and I can show you some examples of cards worth bidding.

Try to avoid RTX 3070Ti, 3080/Ti, and 3090.
These cards could've been heavily mined and the VRAM isn't adequately cooled for mining.
3080/Ti and 3090 also have a vulnerable power delivery design, you'll find posts of them randomly dying almost every month.

3090Ti is safer due to design improvements and using denser memory chips, but they are relatively expensive.

>>105657652
>also is the xfx swift a good brand?
It's XFX's entry-level model, these cards might run loud for having thinner coolers.
Nothing technically wrong with the card.

I am getting a memory kit build a new PC on AM5 i got a deal that is 6000mhz cl38 ram. The other option is an Ripjaw kit with CL30 same speed on amazon, The ram is chinese but i don't really care because it is the same brand of the ram that i am using RN. Do i get the CL30 or the 38? one is 40 bucks(using BRL conversion 5.5 X 1.6 X Price) and the other one is 80 bucks
>>105657610
they aren't like the same price on amazon? PS120 is a bit better.

>>105657670
>Get the CL38 6000MT/s because the CL30's performance improvement won't justify the premium.
>Get the costlier CL30 kit because you don't get to build a new PC very often, so treat yourself to the better part.
Your choice.

>>105657661
im thinking high end around 470ish. I wanna max the cpu so a 98003dx.

>>105657424
It's able to do 1440p even plus fsr4 so it will last you a long time just for 1080p gaming.

>>105657720
if the 9060 is a good card id buy that new.

>>105657744
>>105657744
>>105657744

>>105657714
Looks like the best you can get (if you're extremely lucky) is a used RTX 4070/Ti (12GB) or a 7800XT, but the active listings for RTX cards are all overpriced.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/396748678186
This active listing will probably end at above $500, not worth it. Just sharing it as a reference.
Bid on items with unique product images. Watch out for "Parts Only" listings, these are broken cards.

You might as well consider a new 9060XT (16GB) or a 5060Ti (16GB).

Barebones reference design 9060XT
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BxRnTW/asrock-challenger-oc-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9060xt-cl-16go

This one should run cooler and quieter if you care about it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TcG2FT/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-gv-r9060xtgaming-oc-16gd

These 5060Tis are overpriced, I wouldn't buy it. Just showing you what's out there.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/js8Pxr/gigabyte-gaming-oc-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16-gb-video-card-gv-n506tgaming-oc-16gd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M64Pxr/asus-prime-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16-gb-video-card-prime-rtx5060ti-16g

Not sure what to tell you man, the graphics card market is pretty gay.

Product reviews to help you decide. Different card models from the ones I recommended but the performance is about the same.
If I were you, I'd get the new Gaming OC 9060XT 16GB unless you need NVIDIA features. GL.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9060-xt-prime-oc-16-gb/
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-amp-16-gb/

I need a router.

What are the hot new fad routers everyone is meming?

>need to use blender
>AMD suddenly becomes a non option because AMD IS A SUBHUMAN NIGGER COMPANY THAT INTENTIONALLY GIMPS THEIR GPUS FOR WORKSTATION TASKS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOYS FOR CHILDREN, MEANING THAT ONLY THE MOST SUBHUMAN NIGGERS PURCHASE AMD

t. purchases gaming only gimped toys for children

>>105657149
Corsair makes reliable SFX PSUs

Is there any thermal pad that just werk for vram?
Or do I have to open my card to measure the exact size first?
I would rather only open it when i repaste .

>>105658044
thermal putty just work, for thermal pad you would need to know the exact thickness which might vary between aib models

I havent opened my PC in 6 years

these threads are getting slower and slower

>>105658522
4chan has gotten really slower over the years. between the influx of redditors/zoomers and the authoritarian moderatiom, people have quietly moved on. i only rarely check in anymore

>>105658522
PC building hasn't been affordable to many people for quite a while.
People are getting priced out or have other priorities.

>>105658522
tech news have slowed down, no relevant news
everything solved

>>105658718
any burgerflipper can buy a top end gpu
it aint that serious
third worlders on sui watch

>>105657847
buy good wifi7 ones if you got 10gbit

>>105653948
repacks are gay as fuck and updates on modern games are a nightmare
it's such a poorfag thing it's unreal in todays day and age
not even good games worth buying anyway

>>105655352
the best ikea desk idåsen does not cost that much what the fuck are you doing