You have to make a complex CRUD webapp. What language and framework do you choose?

>>105652117 (OP)
I choose Laravel of course.

>>105652155
damn sport cars really get an outdated look after a decade

>>105652117 (OP)
Go.

>>105652117 (OP)
The correct answer is: it depends.
> Actual use case
> What is the budget
> What is the time to deliver
> Scope of delivery
> Is the project expected to scale
> Is the project persistent or a POC
> Test requirements and the availability of testers
> Regulatory/compliance

>>105652117 (OP)
javascript + nodejs

sveltekit or ror

>>105652117 (OP)
Kotlin or C#

Fuck Java.

>>105652117 (OP)
Plain PHP, no framework

>>105652117 (OP)
godot html5 export

>>105653873
>Plain PHP, no framework

That's what I roll. Frameworks are for jeets and girls who 'code'.

>>105652117 (OP)
Go + `net/http`.

No the `if err != nil { }` is not such big a big deal. I've spent years with functional languages and error propagation using sum types produces the same(if not more, considering nesting) boilerplate.

>>105654057
>always
>except the existence of data in one cell means the data in the other cell is actually garbage data and you must not touch it
>except sometimes the data in the other cell actually is meaningful, you have to just know when
wow, I'm so glad we got rid of that complicated type theory

>>105654089
> except sometimes the data in the other cell actually is meaningful, you have to just know when

Here's how you can know when:

if err != nil {
return err;
}

// Data is valid


I know that Haskell makes you think that everything has to be a monad, but if you try to quit this nonsense mental masturbation you can achieve the same result with the same degree of safety.

>>105654171
>Here's how you can know when:
except for read, where the data tells you how much data was read unsuccessfully
which apparently you didn't even know about lol. such a simple type system!

>>105652117 (OP)
Python and Django. The ORM may not be the best, but the admin panel functionality is great.

>>105652155
fpbp

With React and Inertia of course.

>>105652117 (OP)
Rust
Postgres
Axum (HTTP server)
Diesel (ORM)
Maud (HTML generation)
Governor (rate limiting)
RustCrypto (auth)
Docker

>>105652117 (OP)
C and the "framework" is a handful of libraries that I spend about 2 weeks putting together (because I never "have to" make a complex CRUD webapp before).

>>105652117 (OP)
I think we all know what language I would Segmentation fault (core dumped)

>>105655412
based
Not using auth or rate limiting, s/Docker/Podman/ and Ijust switched from sqlite to postgres.
Should I also switch from sqlx to diesel?
Joins seem to be a pain in the ass with these kinds of ORMs. linq in C# makes it tolerable.

>>105652117 (OP)
Use Elixir.

>>105655477
>Should I also switch from sqlx to diesel?
idk, never used sqlx. I like Diesel because its basically a transcription of SQL to Rust syntax, does not feel very much like an actual ORM. I have not had any issues with joins. Diesel is also not async, hence you must use something like Deadpool for async connection pooling, but I actually like this because it is more obvious in its workings to my brain.

>>105652117 (OP)
honestly php can be pretty nice if you use symfony

>>105652117 (OP)
what's the monthly operating budget, post-launch?
number of project users?
and geographical location(s) of primary user base?
Minimum Viable Product and done? Or the beginning of a series of integrated producrts?

>>105653401
>expected to scale
should be the first question every time.

Python + Django

>>105655684
>expected to scale
is the answer ever no?

>>105655709
trvke nvke

>>105652117 (OP)
cpp -> emscripten front end
cpp backend.

>>105656119
how you gonna work with the DOM lmfao

>>105653401
Midwit take to say "it depends" to everything that isn't completely cut and dry. Most of your bullets don't even influence the choice of language.

Ruby on Rails + React

>>105652117 (OP)
>Macromedia Coldfusion
>Macromedia Flash
>Macromedia Dreamvweaver
>DHTML
>TABLES
>CSS STYLING ONLY (NO LAYOUT)
Anyone questions faggot tits?
Inb4 muh dynamism and scale. YOU DON'T NEED MORE.

>>105652117 (OP)
next

>>105652117 (OP)
Tee elephant in the room elephantine programming language

>>105657359
Is this a serious post? You made me research Coldfusion and it looks interesting

>>105657698
It's a somewhat serious post given that's what we were building sites with in 2003 and I miss it.

>>105652117 (OP)
.NET.

EF Core is amazing for stuff like that.

>>105652117 (OP)
PHP + Laravel or Code Igniter

If it's something small maybe Python + Flask + HTMX

>>105652155
Based

>>105652117 (OP)
plain JS on frontend
C++ with libboost on backend interfacing with postgres. Nginx reverse proxy

>>105652117 (OP)
LAMP. Use Bootstrap for the frontend if you need fancy visuals. Use auth0 for login system. Done.

>>105652117 (OP)
>complex
>CRUD
mutually exclusive

>>105657698
It cracks me up that somewhere, someone is still using Coldfusion in 2k25 the year of our lord. Like, what's the use case in this day and age?

>>105652117 (OP)

>>105652117 (OP)
keyboard and mouse

>>105653410
even worse, at least php was made as joke

>>105659989
What's /g/s favorite South Park episode?