>Wikis
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://mu-sic-production.fandom.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki

>/g/ makes a 16th album
Theme: Loosely technology themed
Title: Shitposting Fundamentals (2nd edition)
Deadline: 19th of July, 11:00 UTC
Listening party: 28th of July, 05:00 UTC

>/g/ makes a 17th album
Theme: [Accepting suggestions]

>Song submission guidelines
Upload the file somewhere, preferably in a lossless format, and post the link here. If you want to update your track, make a new post.
Include the song title in the post, and make it clear that your song is a submission for the album.
Optionally you may include cover art for your track, but please confirm that the image in your post is the cover art or it won't be included. Artist names won't be included.
Songs that contain anything against YouTube's policies won't be uploaded on YT, but will still be added to the album.
By default, tracks will be normalised to -14 LUFS (integrated loudness) in the release. You may specify a lower loudness for your track.
Generative AI is banned. This includes AI generated stems, samples, and effects. "AI" includes all neural network-based models and not hard-coded automation/procedural generation.

>Where can I hear the previous albums?
https://rentry.org/dmpalbums

Previous: >>105555156

>Song submissions
None

>Next album theme suggestions
https://rbt.asia/g/post/105218308 - black people music
https://rbt.asia/g/post/105253988 - Halloween/spooky theme
https://rbt.asia/g/post/105299945 - Djent 80s porno soundtracks
https://rbt.asia/g/post/105657498 - Main Stage Slop (circa 2012)

>Cover submissions
https://rbt.asia/g/post/105314671 [1]
https://rbt.asia/g/post/105317988 [2]

>>105661658
>>Cover submissions

>>105661658
>>Song submissions
>None
oh how /dmp/ has fallen

>NEWS
- We have successfully infiltrated /prod/
- Official /dmp/ website will come online in phases, starting July. This will include a new imageboard and possibly a wiki.

>>105661741
>Official /dmp/ website will come online
>he doesn't know

fucking newfag KEK

>>105661741
what?
....why?

>>105661623 (OP)

>>105661812
kek

>>105661794
remember how in the OP there was a request to suggest 4chan to add a music production board? well since 4chan won't do it we'll just have to make our own

I'm hesitant on making the wiki since there's already the fandom one, however it's subject to their moderation and independence is nice.
It'll probably be put to a vote, but not now.

>>105661826
i believe the point was for 4chan to implement it as a means to increase visibility for sound related topics

>>105661826
this has been done and failed before

>>105662133
When and why did it fail?
Anyway, this project is not just for /dmp/. I'm working on new imageboard software and I need users for testing.

>>105662468
probably because it only has slightly more usecase than /po/

>>105662468
>When and why did it fail?
kvr

>>105661847
>fandom
that website is pure shit spraying ass dont go near it dont treat anything there as legit

>>105661826
>well since 4chan won't do it we'll just have to make our own
The point of a 4chan board is that it's part of 4chan, which is a famous website with lots of people from all over the world.
A music imageboard wouldn't have the userbase necessary for any worthwhile level of activity.
It's been tried already (filtered.fm) and very predictably, it didn't attract enough people.

>>105661662
WORK IN PROGRESS DO NOT VOTE

>>105663715
I don't get it. There are a bunch of active musician and audio engineering forums.
4chan is just dying. With a bunch of dead boards.

>>105662468
I have no sense of time, but it feels like it was a couple years ago.
My memory is foggy, but I believe it showed your text in almost-realtime as you were typing it, so others could watch. You could attach music to your post.
Remember when 4chan was down for a bit over a week? Did you go to the altchans and see how dead-as-fuck their music boards were? Yeah? A new board is going to have even fewer users than that.
>>105663811
Based 39pingin

>>105663971
How many are imageboards?
It's the imageboard format that, being both niche and riddled with the 4chan association, makes a forum have a hard time gaining popularity.
4chan has millions of users, but if you made an altchan about any of its topics, it will likely not be very popular unless there's a specific reason for people to use it instead of its equivalent board/thread on 4chan (for example eightchan getting popular when /pol/ and /v/ users wanted to discuss gamergate but couldn't on 4chan).
BBS forums used to be very popular in general, but most of them were dead and failed. It's just that the format was so popular that the ones that didn't fail could get big, and now most of the popular ones are just the survivors from those days.
Everyone else (of the kind of person who would use a forum) mostly moved to Reddit and Discord.

sup
https://voca.ro/1aDhpkSKVzUF

>>105663811
+ some tweaks

>>105664927
Shouldn't the green be changed to something else so it's not too similar to the Miku hair

>>105664938
no

>>105664948
Ok

Do YOU have a better taste in music than Khameini?

>>105665236
He's talking about this
https://youtu.be/yx37c2PNM3I

>>105663811
>>105664927
last try for now

>>105663608
>hardware instruments lumped in with effects
gearspace>>>kvr

>>105666371
blame bones

>>105666371
i bought reaktor off a not famous guy on kvr he worked on some of my favorite stuff as a teen it was so cool :]

>>105667545
SESH

club banger
https://voca.ro/1dqCNNFpJOxU

>>105670374
bumpin

Thoughts on hiss/hum/electrical noise reduction? I'm in an apartment and I don't have tons of money, I can't deal with it at the source. So is my only real option software noise reduction? If so, what's the best one?

look at this piece of shit "organizer" putting the final nail in the coffin by releasing ""our"" website to further kill a dead thread. How the fuck you expect people to visit your honeypot if this "general" is practically dead?

The current themes are samefagged in (probably by you) and NO ONE is submitting anything anymore. You done your deed you killed /dmp/ so just disappear already, you ruined everything irreversibly and no one respects your "authority" here anymore

>>105673323
what if we set up a patreon to get the old organizer back?

>>105673323
>>105673521
The old album anon returning won't get the users back.
It isn't just /dmp/ experiencing a slowdown, /prod/ anons notice it too, see: >>>/mu/126790571
Also look at how quickly /prod/ threads used to be made: https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/subject/%2Fprod%2F/page/15/
4chan is declining but music production is falling faster for some reason.

>>105673795
I blame Chuzo

>>105673323
>false flagging schizo

>>105673795
music production had a gold rush of naive normies entering the scene because of covid, tiktok, youtube algorithms but it wasn't going to last

>>105676551
/prod/ was more active pre-covid than it is now

>>105676574
so you're an oldfag but you're basically on square one (perhaps 1 year worth of useful experience). any day now you'll uncover the secret sauce to how to make passable music kek

i ask again, have you tried using Suno, why and what for

>>105676612
https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/126475122/#126475675

>>105673795
This might be atleast partially true, I had more listeners pre-covid even doe that music was dogshit. Definitely more amateurs started making music. AI may also be partly to blame since it killed off some music production career prospects.

>>105676551
This might be atleast partially true, I had more listeners pre-covid even doe that music was dogshit. Definitely more amateurs started making music. AI may also be partly to blame since it killed off some music production career prospects.

Is there a way to increase the max zoom in ardour?

>>105676914
>t.

MISSILES

>>105676914
are you using 1x ui scaling on a 400dpi screen lol

>>105677113
idk

Damn I love R2R

I dreamt the deadline was today and my song isn't finished

Just saw that a new sample pack called UWU Gamer Girl Vocals

>>105680408
Theme suggestion: you must use the UWU Gamer Girl Vocals sample pack

Cancel that, I guess you have to pay for it. That never occurred to me

>>105661812
>dj controller
that is a vestax mixer or maybe a numark if they dont have the cash for a vestax.
i was more perturbed by the idea they were sampling into a MPC from a CDJ

>>105661812
> a jupiter
> for $500
maybe in the 1990s.

>>105680487
>i was more perturbed by the idea they were sampling into a MPC from a CDJ
why? having the flexibility like vinyl is useful for sampling stuff with devices mpc.

>>105680943
that's a juno in the pic. you can get alpha junos and jx3ps well under 1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4OQ9JC8v5Q

>>105680964
juno 106 seems more like $1.5k

>>105681066
>classic roland synth
sure, the further back you go it gets spendy, but roland had lots of analog polys around in the 80s

>>105681084
i haven't researched all these models but it seems pretty clear that 106 has the sound. funny how the alpha juno is claimed to be the superior succesor but it's worth a fraction of the price.

>>105680466
>I guess you have to pay for it. That never occurred to me
s*ychan spoiled rich kid confirmed

>>105681343
all they really did was cut cost by changing the controls from sexy sliders to annoying buttons.. the easy programming was the game changer of the earlier models. also, do you even hoover faggot?

>>105681343
>>105681356
>>105681385
> i form my opinions based on the comments of bots and nobodies
> here's the proof:
nobody cares.

>>105681343
Alex Ball has a good vid on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTjdoEb9hZ8&t=117s

>>105681399
you're only hurting yourself, the rest of the world won't listen to your music just because of your feefees

anons in general are basically drooling retards in terms of music
anyone with an ounce of talent can hear how he gets an almost magical sound without having to put a bunch of bullshit bitcrush and reverb and whatever nonsense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxnQDWXOLZE

>>105681364
that's true but i also never use sample packs, i just use soundfonts

>>105680964
>you can get alpha junos and jx3ps well under 1k
but that's not what's in the picture. real junos can sell for many tens of thousands in current year.
>>105681419
opinions from losers on 4chan that think youtube comments are opinions worth listening to have never written any music worth listening to. i guarantee you're only ability at music is loading up other people's midi files, changing the instruments and calling it an original piece. you're not fooling anybody here with your last remaining iq point.

>>105681436
you're the real loser idiot you don't understand even unsubtle analog warmth and you don't show any interest in emulating specific analog gear such as the 1176 which is well proven in the professional music production and mixing world

>>105681436
>but that's not what's in the picture. real junos can sell for many tens of thousands in current year.
the picture is a fusion of multiple models, colors but no sliders, don't be a faggot

how to make music properly so that you can make a career out of it is a mystery to most people so no matter how big of an ego you have you're most likely full of it

>>105681450
don't care. as stated, your opinion and youtube opinions are worthless. cry harder faggot.

>>105681510
yeah anti-intellectuals like yourself have been acting like difficult children the whole time, it takes two to tango, these threads were always terrible, you were patting each other on the back for practicing playing an instrument or posting some shitty vocaroo, just a participation trophy circlejerk, a lot of anons have been doing this for many years and still have pretty much beginner level skill and a poor general understanding of music

>>105681421
based

>The synth's popularity continues to the present day, especially with EDM and artists such as Tame Impala,[8] Daft Punk,[9] Calvin Harris,[10] Armin van Buuren,[11] Mark Ronson,[12] and Caribou[13] among many others.

>>105681953
fake news lol juno was never real

how tf do i fucking compress properly, and more importantly filll out space sonically? i can do really good melodies and okish drum breaks but Im sucky at mastering?

video related, some of my musik
https://youtu.be/fRWA7PwdShg

>>105682074
I wrote you a long and detailed post exhaustively answering your question, then I clicked on your video and decided to delete it.
You deserve nothing.

>>105682074
In future post your music to an audio file sharing platform (Vocaroo is what everyone uses here), lest you be accused of shilling.
I think mastering is the least of your concerns here, it sounds random and disjointed, and the drums don't belong with the other instruments no matter how they're mixed

>>105682240
Hey wait a minute i wanted to know that too

>>105682074
>i can do really good melodies and okish drum breaks
vid unrelated?

>>105682074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU6w1zbQC8g

>>105682074
are you the fucker who made the worst tracks on the god album

>>105661623 (OP)
Anyone else is sad they are poor? I just want to buy a cheap usb mic. And the usual suspects have so many complaints on the intenet:
Fifine: hardware issues
Maono: hardware issues
Samson Q2U: usb issue, 3.5mm jack issue, 4kHz issue
Rode videomic go ii: usb quality issue, not detected issue

>>105683402
i use an sm58 to poind nails never used it as a mic

>>105682074
now this is a club banger

>>105682074
essential schizocore. don't change anything

>>105683402
>Rode videomic go ii
You should google its buzzing issue. Not suitable for usb mic. But its usb output sounds better than 3.5mm. Crazy, right?

>>105683356
maybeee *pisses self*

>>105682245
okiee.
>>105682254
it's bait retardo.

>>105682520
THIS IS HELPFUL omg thx

>>105684470
Is that Randy Marsh?

>>105684470
Pissing before ejaculation is bad news; I feel like 95% of the time I do that I get the burn.

>>105684744
doodle of me

>>105684927
probably unaryan DNA dude, I can do it ez without any pain; it's just really pressure filled which I enjoy

>/dmp/ - Daily Masturbatory Piss

>>105685290
this nkve, this thread is meant for pissing.

>>105661658
here's a album theme suggestion

ear grating internet music.

I'm thinking about getting one of those HP Elite Mini computers for work and I might set up a second profile on it for recording music -- does anyone know if they can handle that? I'll probably use Reaper.

>>>/mu/126802690
>the absolute state of /prod/

>>105661812
>Vestax CDX-05
>Vestax Vestax PMC-05 Pro II
mega based

Assuming that I have an audio file with some 12TET music but non-A440 tuning, is there a program to estimate the tuning?

>>105688846
https://helpcenter.celemony.com/M5/doc/melodyneStudio5Training/en/HC2-Training_R1T3_Der-Stimmungskontext_M5?env=standAlone

>>105687345
that wont work you need a 5090

>>105682074
>how tf do i fucking compress properly
what do you think compression should be used for and why do you use it? most people are compressing too much and for the wrong reasons. you should state your intention and desired result so people can help you.
> filll out space sonically
this is not what compression is used for if that is your desired result.

Why aren't spectrogram waveforms on the timeline the industry standard?

album submission

Title: Rideem
https://voca.ro/1j4SgP3XJrMT
https://files.catbox.moe/2ub3do.flac

>>105691337
DAMN
>>105691768
you saved the album Sir

am i literally hitler for working on my tracks more before the deadline

>>105685581
>ear grating internet music.
ugh
are you talking about those godawful distorted niggerific tracks people use for reels etc?
I hate that shit so bad

>>105692873
You mean phonk?

>>105692890
oh fuck, there's a whole genre of it? I thought (hoped) it was just one really awful producer who caught on
god I hate zoomers even more now

>>105692928
Sneed
https://youtu.be/-jmyDIUUhpg

>>105692961
My neighbors used to blast this type of music at 3am every night 10 years ago.

>>105692961
it's funny that as the population becomes more racially mongrelized, the music just keeps getting more degraded and primal
like reggaeton was already pretty awful but this phonk shit makes that sound like high-IQ classical music
what further extremes of sonic degradation await the human race, I wonder?

https://youtu.be/_tOkb1y7hEs?t=103

>>105693052
Courtesy of ChatGPT

>>105693110
>https://youtu.be/_tOkb1y7hEs?t=103
Absolute classic. Probably the funniest music-related video of all time, but without the first half it's not really funny or worth watching desu

>>105693252
true but I knew if I linked it from the start nobody would bother listening to that point unless they already knew what to expect
great to show friends who've never seen it though

>>105693276
Their loss.
We shouldn't compromise on art like that, in my most humble opinion.

>>105691768
gem

>>105693176
kek
why is his brain coming out of his head?

>>105694283
He complained about the music and got his skull fractured by the Brazilian

Someone please help. What music program will allow me to easily make music like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntJ0hzJ4wP4

>>105695328
No such thing.

>>105695328
Furnace Tracker

how do i make this better
https://vocaroo.com/1mEfocZhvo9r

>>105695403
you delete it and start a different song

>>105695403
Add some intermissions with a simple fast-paced percussion solo.

This might be a hot take, but I don't think /dmp/ makes sense anymore. Both /prod/ and /dmp/ struggle to stay alive nowadays, and the original purpose of /dmp/ has been and gone. Might as well merge the community in 1 general rather than 2.

>>105695499
I imagine there is a lot of overlap. You might be right; we could potentially gain more contributors for the album too.

>>105694283
it kinda fits within the theme of these brainlet memes

>>105695499
/prod/ gets upset about analog gear anyway so there's no point in having this separate general for "digital" music production. the low hanging fruit for producing with just a laptop got picked by DJ chuds in the early 2010s, now it's basically common sense that you should use analog gear or at least software emulations of analog gear.

Look at the thirdies seething about people actually owning electronic music gear. Sheesh.

>>105695499
there's really only a few of us fucking around with dev projects, the rest are learning to daw. /mu/ is probably a better board for it

>>105685211
why do you look like john egbert from the hit webcomic homestuck

>>105695499
One advantage of having separate threads is exposure. Having a thread on /g/ means more anons join in. I don't go on /mu/ outside of /prod/, and the way I discovered it was scrolling on /g/ and finding /dmp/. I'm sure many anons walked the same path. Assuming most anons who are potentially interested in making music don't browse both /g/ and /mu/ regularly (I certainly don't care about kpoop thread of the day), that's an up to 50% drop of influx.
Also, the album-making tradition is tied into /g/. The albums would have to go from "/g/ Presents" to "/mu/ Presents", and I don't want to leave my GNU/gentoomen behind.
That being said, I'm still open to the idea of reunification. We'll see where we are in a couple months: As /dmp/ stands currently it will go on, but if /dmp/ becomes impossible to maintain because of the general falling off page 10 all the time then I'll call it.

>>105691946
No, just Saddam Hussein.
Sounds like we might get mcfreaking extension, lmao

I just ordered two more trance CDs

I inherited i fender chroma polaris 2 but im not a musician and i too many hobbies to get into music production. is the best place to sell it reverb or something like ebay? the fucker is heavy as shit lol.

>>105695328
get a 90s synth like a dx7 or m1. something from roland. arturia has great software programs for a lot of synths

>>105695328
https://youtu.be/VVj6FMJiEms?si=vmQsvaxETrmw2GKO

Big chance that game of yours uses sounds from this "synth"..
All music programs work basically the same, you compose and arrange all the elements and use synths or samplers for the sounds + effects for various purposes...
In its basic functionality, all music programs are very easy to use, composing, arranging and making it sound good, especially the tje last part are not easy at all

>>105696613
:3
>>105696713
A State of Trance?
Have those nuphory hypertrance sample packs leaked?

>>105695328
easily? none of them
you need some serious talent to make music like that
Ys had the best fucking soundtracks

https://vocaroo.com/1gzlKhJNqlo2 - mix a
https://vocaroo.com/1jetjT4lr7n5 - mix b
https://vocaroo.com/1gVezsCqj5fI - 8 bar loop
does anyone have any exercises to break out of writing short loops??

>>105696868
Yes more ASOT albums

>>105696742
those are cool, if it's in good condition it will go on reverb pretty quick. have someone knowledgeable pack it for you

>>105696778
that vid is played off of a turbografix sound engine, those are old school low bit wavetables. you can do that on a jv-1080 but it's annoying. you could get there with an mt-32 or any tracker

>>105691768
I like it

I'm trying to learn how to make modules with OpenMPT, and it's actually pretty awesome. I found a great pack of instruments for .it modules. A shame that composing one note at a time is just too crippling, I can't get used to this. I might have to just find something with a piano sheet for now. Maybe I can compose using a modern program and then transcribe it to OpenMPT? I bet lots of people back then also used external tools instead of composing inside the tracker anyway.

>>105696686
ok digging my hidey hole

>>105696613
has /mu/ ever even made an album that wasnt all by one person

>>105702845
/mu/ yes, but not /prod/

>>105702894
let me guess it was /gg/

>>105702900
Kek absolutely not
All the ones I remember were in their own threads made for the occasion

Holy shit. I just want a decent piano sheet and a way to insert my samples, is that too much to fucking ask. Why are there so many useless parameters thrown at my face when the most fucking basic purpose of your program isn't being met. What the fuck, why are these DAWs so autistic, who cares about all this gay shit

>>105703288
because daws arent just for freshamn composers who never used a computer theyre also for audio engineers trying to mix 75 tracks and unfuck live recordings
>captcha: S0RYY

I have composed a bunch of tracks in Furnace and yet I still don't know how to manage channels, because I've seen demo tracks that don't use all channels from a chip, mainly VERA.

I made some jungle dnb, wot you guys think. idk how to expand on this

https://vocaroo.com/18yVup8eell2

What's a good way to read the pitch of a bassline

Trying to make the bottom clip sound similar to the bit on the top

>>105701780
>composing one note at a time is just too crippling,
Sample chords, then when you drop a 'single note' it's actually a full blown chord :)
>>105703288
>piano sheet
You want traditional notation? Reaper can do that.
>>105705847
Pitch it up an octave or two and use your ears?

>>105705847
train your ears, it's probably the only thing in music where if you put in the time you get it back tenfold

>>105691768
FYI you're not the first to use that sample in a /g/album
https://youtu.be/vVPQjvQ7vuw?si=4fgj7d3__zzOVwPf

>>105705634
its basically exactly what i expected at any rate props for making an entire song maybe you can give advice to satan >>105698666

>>105661623 (OP)
I wish i could make music like kreuzweg ost but im too busy and stupid i wish i could just comission it at this point i mean how hard can it be for people who actually know how to do this - just throw some WW2 sound samples (which i can provide) like hitler speeches or HJ marches etc in with like martial ambience and wagner motifs. if someone does this ill pay u leave ur telegram or something

good night /dmp/

imagine if a pajeet could make good western-style music despite technological/financial obstacles, he might have "genius songwriting" (or at least chords ripped from john lennon or whatever) and "emotional performances" and go viral on tiktok and get a career in the united states
but you don't really see that happening
really makes you think

>>105708726
Lmao but that's exactly what happened with this song
https://youtu.be/hOHKltAiKXQ

>>105708872
that's properly produced
>Sooraj Cherukat was born in 1992, in Malappuram, Kerala, India.[2] His father works for a leading oil company, as a result he moved around a lot.[9][10] As a child, Cherukat lived in Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Egypt, Qatar, and Italy before settling down in the United States when he was in second grade.[9][11] He attended Houston Community College.[12] In 2012, he returned to India enrolling at PSG College in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu to pursue a degree in business administration.[9][13] He worked at Goldman Sachs in 2014, and also as a personal trainer.[14][10]
i'm talking about the average amateur's mindset about how songwriting >> production, some of them think you only need a DAW with stock plugins and nothing else

>>105708888
Oh I thought you were making a point about indians sucking at music or something.

Yeah I agree to a certain extent, all of that helps a lot, but success isn't just a matter of having quality music.
A released song is essentially a product being sold. Obviously a product from a small company doesn't have a fraction of the chances of being successful as the exact same product being sold by a large corporation with a huge marketing budget, an established name, preexisting relations with stores, etc.
There are lots of unsuccessful musicians and bands who spend money to get their tracks professionally produced (by having a rich family, label backing, savings from a day job, etc), and still go nowhere.
Look at the discography of the producers and engineers that made worldwide hits. They're often full of literally-whos.
Why are these artists not seeing success despite having literally the same producers as the chart-toppers?
It's because of other variables than production quality, such as their branding and appeal to their target audience, their songwriting, connections, some amount of luck, etc.
Every piece of the puzzle is important. You can't just focus on one aspect and ignore everything else if you want to compete with people who excel in all of them.

>>105709018
yes that's all valid but even most of those producers and engineers aren't true expert geniuses, they're just good at self promoting and being at the right place at the right time, for example andrew scheps is really full of himself and he might think that his in the box mixes sound better than ever but they're barely even mediocre by modern standards

>>105709098
They might not be expert geniuses but they're able to do a good enough job for the massive hits they keep getting hired for.
If those artists hired the best, most skilled expert genius, their song would only be better by a very small amount. Too small to impact their success, especially considering that most people aren't listening on gear good enough to hear the difference, and wouldn't have the ear or knowledge to even know what to listen for even if they had the best gear in the world.

>>105709135
for example will.i.am had "my humps" which is considered one of the worst songs of all time in terms of songwriting but it sounded ok sonically compared to what else was on the radio at the time, will.i.am said that music literally is technology and now he has a big boner for AI slop

then you have people like pic related who ignore that the beatles were on the forefront of production technology or max martin dickriders who ignore that he's also a producer and not just a songwriter

or you could rip off john lennon's chord progressions so you take advantage of whatever special harmonies but you can easily change it up to make it your own song legally

>>105709180
>"my humps" which is considered one of the worst songs of all time in terms of songwriting
My Humps was an era-defining banger, take that shit back or it's on sight istfg

>>105709227
if you distill it to purely the songwriting vs purely the production, it leans heavily on the production because the songwriting isn't some mozart shakespeare 4d chess rocket science but people aren't being honest with themselves e.g. >>105630379
>LEARN MUSIC FIRST
>GEAR IS A DISTANT LAST

a lot of the successful EDM producers were primarily just early and smart enough nerds to learn how to use a DAW whereas a lot of their songwriting was more or less cringe

>>105709180
For every example you mention there are tons of songs that got produced by the same people that made the worldwide hits and still weren't as successful.
Hell, even the very same successful artists have some extremely successful songs as well as some flops, on the same album.
If the production is the same in all of those examples, then it's not the factor responsible for their success.

>but it sounded ok sonically compared to what else was on the radio at the time
So it doesn't need to have genius-level sound/production. It only needs to be ok compared to the competition.
Yeah I agree with that.

>then you have people like pic related
I'm not even reading that. Concerning yourself with what randoms say on the Internet is the worst thing you can do with your time and mental energy.

>>105709313
yeah you've made your mind up, good luck spending decades on learning le ebin chord progressions and still not making anything resembling a hit record

>>105691921
>>105694025
>>105700271
thank you sir, doing the needful

>>105709260
>>105709289
Good songwriting is songwriting that is effective at creating the right vibe and style you're trying to do.
My Humps is not exactly a Bach fugue but it's great at achieving what it's meant to achieve, which is a completely different kind of difficulty that non-musicians often underestimate.
Everyone thinks simple songs are easy to make, but in fact they're often much harder.

>if you distill it to purely the songwriting vs purely the production
This is a false dichotomy. It's absolutely both, but you pretend it's one vs the other in order to argue that production "wins" and is the main thing a song needs to be successful, which is obviously false.

>>105709330
Everything you said has been wrong, and now that you can't continue arguing your dumbass point you switch to insults and strawmen like you always do.
I have indeed made my mind up because it's the simple truth lmao. Meanwhile, how long have you been coming here to unpromptedly rant about production being more important than songwriting? It's been probably a year or more. Every time you come, get BTFO, start lashing out, leave, then come back some time later to start all over again.
Why do all this? We know it's you, Chuzo. You've been caught being a larp so many times.
Your whole "I got endgame gear so I delude myself into thinking it's enough to be successful even though I haven't actually made a single song in my life" larp fools absolutely nobody.
One day (hopefully very soon) you'll be on your death bed thinking about how you spent your one life you got to have, and you'll realize that spending literal thousands of hours "trolling" an anonymous imageboard wasn't such a good idea.

>>105709534
you're falling for the illusion that gets sold to the normie consumer
you hear a "sad", "beatiful" song, you congratulate the singer, you congratulate the songwriter
what you're not getting is that it's like a magic trick where behind the scenes a producer or engineer put a shit ton of artificial sweetening on the singer's voice which is beyond what any human is capable of
you're not even aware that it's like a magic trick and you think you can make good songs yourself
then if you actually make a song and publish it, in your view you have the equivalent "product" of sufficient quality, you get gobsmacked that no one is listening to it or you blame marketing etc
kill yourself unhinged idiot

>>105709913
Why do you keep going?
I just told you that I know you're Chuzo and that you're larping.
This is like the monster being unmasked as some random old man at the end of a Scooby Doo episode and instead of complaining about the protagonists ruining his plans, he kept going AARRGHHH AAAANNGH and doubling down.

>>105709982
you're resorting to an ad hominem and you're calling me the troll kek

a lot of anons have been doing this for many years and have basically fuck all to show for it, they don't show any curiosity about most non-toy-like type of gear or plugins like compressors and such

>>105710238
I realized you were Chuzo when you made this post >>105708888 and decide to keep discussing the topic to see if you could admit that your point is retarded, but when you stopped actually addressing the points I made (here >>105709330) there was no longer reason to keep pretending to take you seriously, so I took my mask off, so to speak.
Once that's done, there's really no point in both of us continuing to pretend.
I'm not making anymore arguments about your made up production vs songwriting distinction. I'm being real now and talking about you and whatever mental illness keeps pushing you to act like this on a Mongolian basket-weaving forum. I'm not pretending that this constitutes an argument against your previous statements (I've already explained above how they make no sense).
This will be my last post to you.
Please find God (figuratively or literally, as long as you stop posting here) as soon as you can.

>>105710331
you're truly an idiot and i'm not interested in having these "discussions" and being harassed the same goddamn fool over and over. at least if you weren't so unhinged i could get the perspectives of some different anon instead of the same boomer over and over who learns nothing new ever. you truly suck and will never make a good song lmao.

it's complete and utter common sense how much technology is part of music production, you take soulja boy and skrillex as evidence that you only need fl studio, guess what even if you get as good as them you have a snowball's chance in hell of being successful in 2025

you thinks harmonics don't need to be learned, that it's like learning about atoms to be a chef, guess what it's basic high school physics to learn harmonics and music production is almost entirely about manipulating harmonics

PLENTY of people have learned to play an instrument, PLENTY of people have tried to write songs, if you only needed to sound "ok" with hardly any production then why are there hardly any real talents that show up ever

>>105710352
>i'm not interested in having these "discussions" and being harassed the same goddamn fool over and over
You seemed very interested up until you got BTFO and couldn't reply anymore, so you started sidestepping my points with fallacies and non-sequiturs like you do every single time you get into ANY discussion ever with any of us.

>>105710264
>>105710369
>>105710383
>>105710400
No one said any of that lmao

>>105710405
you don't have a point
i explained it as any normal person could understand >>105709913
thanks for the (You)

>anons having a melty about production value
Meanwhile I make music for fun. Learning a DAW is the as learning an instrument, it's a hobby for most people.

>>105710428
retarded cope, it won't be sustainable and fun for long if you keep making crap music and never improve

>>105710431
I've been doing it for 15 years, and still enjoy it.

>>105710425
I've already addressed that point.
You're talking about how production makes the song more appealing, and I'm not denying that. I told you from the start that I do think it's a significant factor.
Just that it's not the only one when it comes to financial success, and it's clear because there are many other songs made by the exact same producers (often on the very same album) as the successful ones, that don't become successful.

You're stuck in this false dichotomy where it can only be production or songwriting, when it's unquestionably both + multiple other things.
This is literally a sign of mental illness. I'm not joking, read this:
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking

>thanks for the (You)
You're right, I shouldn't continue to fall for your already exposed baits.
I'm out for real now.

>>105710471
>there are many other songs made by the exact same producers (often on the very same album) as the successful ones, that don't become successful
here's your black and white thinking
different songs are naturally going to have different levels of success because they are different
and a lot of producers are hacks (it's traditionally a normie profession, only relatively recently could random people have a chance of being discovered via EDM and such that they produced at home) and the monitoring is wildly different between different studios so for instance they might have used a piece of gear with good settings with an element of luck involved and then decided to use a different piece of gear on another song for variety's sake

>>105710510
you are a retard with no life experience and that is why you can only rant on message boards

>>105710985
see >>105709913
almost all anons have an archaic perception of music due to using shitty monitors and DACs etc
there's one (1) anon in /prod/ who was wondering about punchy/snappy drums in mainstream music compared to 10-20 years ago
most professionals care very much about having an authentic 1176 compressor if they can afford it, they can hear the difference vs a warm wa76 or a klark 76kt, meanwhile most anons don't even care about plugin emulations, they think even an unflavored stock DAW compressor is fine

>>105711255
the best compressor is no compressor simple as.

chorizo is extra spicy today

>>105711255
>most professionals care very much about having an authentic 1176 compressor if they can afford it,
why do many of the best mixers not have physical 1176s then? why do the people paid thousands of dollars to mix individual tracks for the biggest musicians on the planet use plugins from waves and UAD? people have mixing studios they spent hundred of thousands of dollars to build and mix in the box in pro tools using plugins. it is the exception for them to run something through hardware, a very rare exception.

>>105711978
it's for workflow and recallability, quantity > quality and they need to be able to make many revisions to satisfy the whims of the client. mixers who use hardware still exist, only someone like serban can charge top dollar for an in the box mix. at the production stage many people like jack antonoff, mike dean, daniel nigro use a lot of hardware.

https://archived.moe/x/thread/40002497/#40002536
https://voca.ro/1jsxMyQ2ry2w

meds

>>105705634
another jungle dnb idea. basically copying the same structure as this one with less chord movement and an amen break. couldn't figure out a bass line or sound that worked so there's no low end to this song. sounds flat, fak

I think one of the worst areas of my production is figuring out the bass in each of my attempts

https://vocaroo.com/1oiSeeaeduF9

>>105710264
you spent a gorillion rupees on gear and have nothing to show for it

>>105713817
Right >>>>> left

Can you guys recommend a good, on the cheaper side, 3 octave midi controller? Sorry for being dumb.

>>105715152
korg microkey

>>105716089
>kong microdih

Here's my current setup. I have a lot more shit but this is what's hooked up right now.

Nu-MPC is great too because you can page through a MIDI CONTROL series of pages where you are given the opportunity to use the control knobs (the 4 knobs on the MPC in a row near the screen) to send out any CC on any channel you like in real time and record it all too. It's a simple matter of looking up what the CCs do for each synth, heck you can even label each one per channel if you want or do all that nonsense and save it into a template so you never have to do it again.

>>105714615
my outboard gear would have easily retailed for $10k+ if you count the inflation adjusted price of vintage gear, but i didn't spend nearly that much, i picked up bargains of underrated gear. now you'll have a hard time finding similar bargains even if you know what to look for. one in particular is so obscure, there were a few online that sold out after the LA wildfires so good luck finding it for any price even if you're one of the few who know that it exists and that it's useful.

>>105718101
Most of the stuff that's cult now was cheap at one point.

Hardware is a meme. Digital is perfectly transparent any time developers aren't jerking themselves off with anal warmth emulations.

did some moar pissing music

https://voca.ro/1j8PygJOaFTW

any good mixing advice for this btw? i was thinking of adding a bass section but the bass drum takes up the sonic space


>>105661662
might draw one in a bit (:


>>105716782
is this the curse of being a dawless fag in the year 2020 + 5

>>105705634
modulate the key, do some counterpoint/ some breaks in the song without the drums, do melody lines; have a contrasting A section with a C coda at the end, etc etc.

>>105719781
so what's stopping a broke third worlder from installing some cracked plugins and becoming the next avicii

>>105661662
wip, ill finish it in teh mornin

>>105720310
>https://voca.ro/1j8PygJOaFTW
I like how the drums are treated like a jumpscare. You never quite know when they're gonna kick in. Here's my advice: release it on all platforms asap.

>>105661623 (OP)
>pic
https://youtu.be/D6MmGGGdvGM

>>105721126
i'll never forgive her

>>105719781
hardware ui will always be superior
vst will continue to sound good and feel like hot garbage

>>105719781
>transparent
wrong

>>105722629
Agreed, I would but it not for the sound but for the feel of it. Dialing in sounds by dragging with a mouse feels ridiculous and is probably bad for the wrist too.

>>105722629
Agreed, I would buy it not for the sound but for the feel of it. Dialing in sounds by dragging with a mouse feels ridiculous and is probably bad for the wrist too.

>>105723745

>crashes

>>105719781
>the ableton shill is getting toasty

>>105720316
Big EDM producers are hacks and industry babies. Gear isn't stopping you. Money and connections are the barrier.

>>105721967
Because of Elon?
Can't blame her desu.
If he asked me to implant female reproductive organs so I could carry his baby and be financially set for life, I'd start stretching my asshole before the word "yes" has finished coming out of my mouth.

>>105723801
Never open onions-tan's lid without her consent!

>>105721126
>>105726729
holy shit xitter reference in the video this is so heccin >>x/paranormal

>>105726809
Her being in the video is also a reference to Twitter/X users being stupid and retarded.

>>105721967
>>105726729
wait is this because she let him fretilize her wom bor because she stopped after one

>>105726356
kill yourself retard, while a lot of their tracks have cringe songwriting, they're orders of magnitude better produced than your amateur slop, you're delusional for thinking that some chronically unsuccessful literally who is only unsuccessful because of (((connections))) and not that their music sucks

Hey all, I just made this outro with orchestra and synths and reverb and delay and vocals: https://voca.ro/11aZiSrCNRri

>>105720310
>>105720572
That’s nothing. I just made this: https://voca.ro/1bUnAjRlBFUZ

Here’s your ‘intricate’ gridlocked drum beat made with modular garbage https://voca.ro/11867tAeXOKg

>>105728239
some people say that grimes royally fucked up the course of humanity and if they could go back in time they would stop grimes from dating elon at the 2018 met gala

https://www.reddit.com/r/grimezs/comments/18xj1u1/providing_more_context_to_grimes_naziracist/

funny how songwritingfags think of themselves as being artistic but they don't get the production aspect which is essential for the overall vibe of the music. they're like robotically trying to analyze the chords and typically just the chords while mostly handwaving the melodies and the lyrics. i think of them more as idea guys, they have the idea of making a song but an idea guy is a deragotary term that's popular in the game dev scene for someone who thinks highly of himself for being oh so creative and smart for having a concept for a video game but he won't put in the effort to learn the skills and properly execute the production of a game.

>>105731025
Didn’t really read past the first couple sentences. I like this Lady Gaga/Bradley Cooper song because the lyrics are so fucking powerful. The music works around the lyrics. The acapella is good. The instrumental is good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fPgs3qq9CGs

>>105731025
>>105731097
You know, I thought about sampling the end of this song because it’s literally what Burial would do. Ever hear “In McDonalds”. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nI6nfACLPKQ

>>105710431
>Sustainable
What the fuck do you mean by this? How can a hobby be sustainable? You put money into it and expect nothing in return. The majority of people who make music don't even put it out, they just keep their shit to themselves.

>>105731111
>muh burial
kek you're completely gone

>>105731172
if you're remotely an intelligent functioning human being you should have a natural curiosity and willingness to learn and improve, it's part of any artistic endeavour to hone your craft, otherwise it's just degenerate mental illness cope like collecting hundreds of beyblades which would soon get boring if you're not a retarded child

>>105731255
How is Burial bad? Untrue was/is amazing.

>>105711770
i had chorizo for breakfast this morning

>>105731333
you're like an AI bro, at best you can copy what burial did decades ago, and you'll struggle to get people to listen to it at all, you're not creating art

>>105731346
What does AI have to do with this? How did you come to this conclusion?

>>105731335
and it was EXTRA SPICY

>>105731310
That's what music is for the majority of people, all they learn is from osmosis.
You thinking otherwise makes you retard living in a la la land.

>>105731404
>>105731415
you're not learning production properly, you're completely blind to what innovation that producers and engineers did with the beatles, ABBA, madonna, michael jackson, you just want to prompt the idea or sample other people's songs like an anon did with the AI ripoff of kanye's song but with spastic retard noises

>>105731428
Who asked?
Why don't you keep on the topic you answered me?

>>105731428
Uh, Burial did create his own music. People sample shit all the time.

>>105731443
you're not a healthy person my man, i shouldn't have to explain basic common sense things like learning to become a racing driver you shouldn't be stuck driving go-karts for the rest of your life, you try to drive faster and get into faster cars like formula cars or get a job as a test driver for a car manufacturer or something

>>105731458
You are talking about nonsense, you changed the topic for no reason.
I do not care, I'm talking about reality you are trying to justify something in your mind

>>105731471
in reality you're not remotely making anything that sounds like good music yet you think you have it all figured out, you call the big EDM producers hacks, yeah sure you just need to work on your chord progressions some more and make some (((connections))) then you can be successful like calvin harris

>>105731479
Who asked?
You keep on trying to insult me for no fucking reason. I'm not reading any of that until you respond to my post as is without your mental illness

>>105731487
kill yourself retard, you just have ridiculous mental gymnastics, you're not a properly functioning human being, you have no musical talent, maybe you can play other people's songs on the piano or something like that but you have a complete lack of understanding what makes a song sound good, you can rip off the exact chord progressions legally if you want, it's not rocket surgery to write a decently competent song, it's the production that makes it come to life, it's statistically implausible that less than one in a million can learn how to write a song and these people just happened to be signed to a label and have access to a studio, fucking retard holy shit

>>105731487
>>105731499
He’s not wrong. There’s no copyright on fucking chord progressions. This one is so fucking basic but so well done and nobody did it before like he did: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YTcopp-mpmo
If only you made this seemingly entry level introductory track you wouldn’t even be on this site because you’d have money and pussy.

>>105731499
kek
you're gonna pop a blood vessel choridzo

>>105731515
Idk maybe I linked the wrong anon. Fuck this bullshit.

>>105731678
no you are right, your only mistake was giving spanish sausage a (You) here >>105731111

>>105731515
one of the big EDM producers origin story is even that he worked as a programmer for fl studio so he knew his way around the software so he had an early technological production advantage more than anything, our boomer parents were probably right in saying that these EDM DJ bros made shitty music, it had just enough energy and novelty in the sounds for youngsters who were partying or using it as background music while playing video games

Imagine angry posting in four channel

>>105732113
>one of the big EDM producers origin story is even that he worked as a programmer for fl studio so he knew his way around the softwar
nvm still can't find it on google, might have been someone in my country with no english article or i misremembered it

>>105731097
lmfao no amateur is remotely on the same page as that. there's an abundance of singers and instrument players compared to people who tinker with studio equipment. there should be plenty of literal whos who have more or less good songwriting and good production (good enough according to you) but most normal people can hear that there is something wrong with the literal who's music, there are redditors who pay for marketing and still don't get anywhere, it's a quality issue.

>>105732379
According to ChatGPT:
The well-known EDM producer Deadmau5 (Joel Zimmerman) is often mistakenly associated with the development of FL Studio, but he did not work as a programmer for Image-Line.

The correct answer is:

Gol (Didier Dambrin) – also known as "gol" – was the main developer of FL Studio (originally FruityLoops). While not an EDM producer himself in the mainstream artist sense, he created much of the core of FL Studio, the DAW that many famous EDM producers use.

If you're looking for a well-known EDM artist who actually worked for Image-Line, that would be:

EDM producer: Toby Emerson

Emerson is a sound designer and music producer.

He created sound presets and demo songs for Image-Line.

However, he was not a core programmer of the DAW itself.


So to clarify:

No major EDM producers like Deadmau5, Avicii, or Martin Garrix worked as programmers for Image-Line.

The main programmer was Didier Dambrin, but he's more of a developer than a producer.

Some EDM artists contributed presets, samples, and demo projects.


Let me know if you're thinking of a specific name or if this was based on a rumor!

>/dmp/ is 24/7 schizorambling about muh production value
>/prod/ anons are too lazy to give feedback anymore (I'm literally the only one giving it)
Christ I hope things get better soon as the state of these generals is god awful lately.

>I recorded Shakira with a Telefunken Elam 251 through a Neve 1073 mic pre, no EQ on the return in the mix, and only an LA2A on the insert. The reverb on her vocals was the S777, set to the small hall in the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam. There were certain words on which she didn't want any reverb, so we had to automate the reverb send on the SSL. The main reverb in the track was a delayed plate from the 960L, used in moderation. I don't like things that are overwhelmed by reverb. And I tell you one thing, I have not heard a plug-in sound as good as the 960L. It's a crazy box.

>You can have eight sends on an SSL — six auxes and cue left and right — and the first four are dedicated to my Lexicon 960L, which is fully loaded. I'll have a TC 2290 on another send, usually set to a quarter-note delay with a little panning. Aux six tends to be connected to a [Lexicon] PCM70, and the cue left and right to an Eventide H4500. When working in Pro Tools, I also use a lot of plug-ins, including delays and filtering. This is cool because you can go really deep into automating plug-ins.

>I still prefer the sound of analogue, which is why I like to mix through an SSL. One plus one is different in a computer than on an analogue desk. I also have the Inner Tube Atomic Squeezebox, which has eight vacuum tubes in it, and there's no way you can replicate the sound of that box in a computer. In the case of Shakira's vocals, I used the Fatso to thicken the sound a little bit. It's like tape simulation, it does harmonic compression or something. I often use it on vocals. I'll send things I want to process to bus 25-26, into the Fatso, and then bring that back to the board.
basically what a naive person believes is the singer's natural voice has had just about all processing done to it known to mankind

>>105726729
>and be financially set for life
Grimes comes from money bro lol

>>105732944
I thought her family was just well off, not that she had "live comfortably without ever working" money.

>>105733019
>not that she had "live comfortably without ever working" money
I just did a cursory google and repeatedly saw "upper middle class" (the actual (to my understanding definition) i.e millionaire and very comfortable but nowhere near fuck-you-money; no "influence" etc).

I was never a huge fan so I don't know her lore but she's mentioned living in a crackhouse (one can assume her family wasn't supporting her life choices and possibly not financially supporting a college-dropout musician who is openly partaking in a drug life, but who knows).
She was already a very successful artist by the time she met Elon so imo financial support really isn't a reasonable excuse.

It's come out recently (or there has been more visible discussion about at least) what Elon and his camp's philosophy is, which gives more context to Grimezzz's defending him while they were together (explaining that he was trying to "help").

Who the fuck knows though. To her credit: obviously she left so that's good-ish but people who actually care about artists' personal morals and such have had their impression of her permanently tarnished.
Still has some bangers though ig

>>105734124
Yeah, she definitely wasn't hurting before meeting Elon, but I'd imagine that that extra 6/7-figures a year + the substantial increase in popularity from everyone talking about her, isn't easy to turn down. Especially at the time (I might be off on the timelines, but IIRC he was only starting to be a controversial figure, and it wasn't like today).
If the theory above is true and Grimes of all people is altering the course of geopolitics (by getting the richest man in the world on drugs and leading him to becoming what he is today) it would be one of the funniest things in all of music ever.

>It's come out recently (or there has been more visible discussion about at least) what Elon and his camp's philosophy is
Could you elaborate on this please?

>>105734301
>isn't easy to turn down
yeah surely lol

>Could you elaborate on this please?
tl;dr is tech billionaires are openly providing support to specific political groups with the hope that (events and legislation) will occur that will enable them to establish hyper-capitalist city states where they can be free to rule and operate how they see fit.

>>105734385
Ah I see...
Welp... If anything, if that's the future of America, tying yourself to one of its rulers while everyone else below you suffers is historically very much in line with communism, so she's not really being a hypocrite there lol

>>105734469
>America
not just happening there buddy, sorry :^(

>>105734488
Ah shit, I hope I'm Thiel's type

>>105730882
>In Summary, her actual views on race and gender seemingly align perfectly with people in the far right who think women aren't as smart as men, POC aren't as smart as white people, and asian women are superior and sexiest. spergler acolyte being a prime example of the type of people who share these views. Any of these situations on their own is questionable enough, but when combined together squander any reasonable doubt that she is a racist, a bigot, or the modern definition of a “nazi” which in 2024 is just the common slur for anyone who is a white supremacist like Richard Spencer. This is not a list of all of her controversies, just the racist stuff for this specific post.

>>105734469
oh shit musk and grimes are COMMUNISTS??? what the fuck is wrong with them the rest was no big deal but COMMUNISM??????? cant forgive that

>>105735619
Remember when she did a photoshoot where she pretends to read the communist manifesto?

>>105735619
ever since people started throwing reading level statistics around during this past election cycle i can't take anybody anywhere seriously

>>105735688
no actually never gave any fucks about anything she did dont even know what her music sounds like

>>105735703
>reading level statistics
What does this mean?

>>105735719
statistics about how many people can read

>>105735716
She used to be /mu/'s biggest lolcow and it's funny to think that she influenced world politics.
That's it.

>>105735719
I don't even care if you're joking this shit's just so insane

>>105735730
>>105735742
Ah thank you.

>mfw they include me at the bottom of the charts

>>105735754
outed yourself as american

>>105735760
Gosh darn it

>>105735760
why would anyone from the US hide it? it's all the other countries that do it

>>105735789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyHSjv9gxlE

>>105735797
for the bongs, it's a witty pisstake. for the us, it's an instant radio banger

>>105735812
Please don't say p*ss in this thread

im not reading these gay posts
>>105730284
>https://voca.ro/11aZiSrCNRri
nice i like it, mellow

>>105705847
>>105705847
View the track in a frequency analyzer, fab filter eq has it build in if you have it.. theres also free ones.
The loudest frequency will be the fundamental, and thats your note.
If you have a tuner vst, theres also free ones, you can observe what notes and frequencies are being played

>>105705847

>>105705847
>>105705847
View the track in a frequency analyzer, fab filter eq has it build in if you have it.. theres also free ones.
The loudest frequency will be the fundamental, and thats your note.
If you have a tuner vst, theres also free ones, you can observe what notes and frequencies are being played

>>105707260
what the fuck is wrong with you buddy anyway 20 dollars is 20 dollars im making a telegram account

>>105735742
even more so in this thread, the normal people recognize that production quality is a thing so they don't try to produce their own music because they have basic decency and respect for the professionals who put in the hard work. you get true mentally ill boneheads who are oblivious to production quality so they think they can just go ahead with the bare minimum of tools like a DAW with stock plugins.

>>105737974
>they have basic decency and respect for the professionals who put in the hard work
not me lol

>>105737983
that's what i'm saying, you're not a normal literate person. most anons insist on vastly overrating songwriting over production even though this is ostensibly the production thread and anons say that plugins sound good etc which is not true as there are fewer and fewer examples of self-made fully digital producers as the mainstream music is sounding better than ever so most normal people are happy to listen to it instead of looking for alternative artists from gimmicky genres. it's so easy to get access to the tools that anons say are fine and songwriting is free if you do it yourself yet 99% of people never make it to the point of finding an audience and being able to produce music on a professional level. curious.

>>105731025
if they were serious about making games theyd make them as tabletop becausxe analog gameplay is superior to digital

i used fruity loops studio in the past about 10 years ago. is it still good?

>>105738581
yeah and it's called "FL Studio", gramps

FL studio's workflow has always been weird and a bit annoying for me - it's easy to accidentally delete a pattern or put stuff in the wrong pattern, but there are also good UI features such as right clicking on a knob to automate it.
very decent DAW

FL studio's workflow has always been weird and a bit annoying for me - it's easy to accidentally delete a pattern or put stuff in the wrong pattern, for instance. But there are also good UI features such as right clicking on a knob to automate it.
very decent DAW overall, if i stayed on Windows i'd still be using it

https://vocaroo.com/1auS2B5w4zNf

test

uuh give me an hour

its been an hour

>>105740285
so it has

New chuzo threadzo muchachos
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