Thread 105662299

It's the brand that has the most amount of bloatware preinstalled, only surpassed by Xiaomi and Vivo, yet normies seem to think it's the best Android Phones.
Even the S25 (picrel) comes with bloatware.
Why?

Clearly Pixel, Motorola, OnePlus and Sony are superior in this aspect.

Am I forgetting to mention something?
What are the phones with the most and with the least bloatware preinstalled that you know of?

>bloat
nigga you can uninstall anything you don't want since android 12 or something or plain just stop and don't use an app you dont like.

>>105662299 (OP)
I have a Pixel and I can't uninstall any of the Google bloat

>>105662340
> you can uninstall anything you don't want since android 12
I know. And it's possible way before that, I have an android 9 and I uninstalled a lot of stuff with ADB.

> plain just stop and don't use an app you dont like.
They run in the background. And most of them can't be disabled.

>>105662396
Like what? some stuff are essential, but still can be removed (but you risk damaging the system)

>>105662405
You can stop/disable anything, restrict background tasks.

>>105662405
>Like what? some stuff are essential, but still can be removed (but you risk damaging the system)

Chrome, YouTube, YouTube Music, Google TV, Google Drive, Calendar, Photos, Pixel Tips... I mean, you can't uninstall anything, really.

>>105662299 (OP)
>in this aspect
yeah exactly
you answered your own question

>>105662446
I have most of these uninstalled (except Calendar), you can easily uninstall them with ADB.
You just need to enable debugging in your phone, install ADB on Windows, connect it and run the shell command to uninstall them.

The only apps I kept on my phone was:
calendar, camera, clock, contacts, files, fm radio, gmail, messages, phone, play store and settings. Everything else is uninstalled with ADB

>>105662498
Yeah and you can also flash a custom ROM. What's your point? Every phone comes with bloat ware.

>>105662520
>What's your point?
>Why are Normie's so fan of Samsung

>>105662520
Afaik custom roms can not work properly with your phone. I've never used a custom rom, so just uninstalling the bloatware is enough for me.

>>105662498
Once you uninstall google services the phone starts spamming error messages

>>105662299 (OP)
>Why?
Because the ad said it was the best. Well, either that or Apple, but they're not homosexual or black, so they chose Samsung.
>Am I forgetting to mention something?
Yes: Samsung smartphones are proven to have spyware, though all other ones probably have too.

>>105663044
Yeah, Google Play Services is essential. I also kept Gboard (google keyboard app), which I forgot to mention.

One thing that you may want to keep if you use Samsung is the Galaxy Store, as some of the Samsung apps require it to update (like the Samsung keyboard).

>>105663079
it's not essential, in fact it's completely useless from the user's perspective

Samsung is the cheap shit brand. When you're too poor for Apple or TSMC you buy Samsung.

>>105663469
Apple is TSMC

>>105663476
Exactly. Every iPhone is TSMC. Your Samsung Galaxy is a gacha roll whether it's Exynos or Snapdragon but you are more likely or fine the Exynos.

>>105663469
Do you even know what TSMC ?

>>105662340
You literally can’t. People just keep parroting lies. Literally, try using adb even for samsung bloatwares, more than half will refuse to be disabled.
Fuck you android stans.

>>105662498
keeeeeek, I didn't even know that you couldn't.
Just checked on my pixel and it's true.

Holy fucking shit I can't wait to go back to iPhone.
This whole Android thing was a fucking mistake, """""OPEN""""", """"Unrestricted""""".

Fucking LMAO at poordroids, which I am currently. FUCK!

>>105662299 (OP)
Just old habits die hard. All phones that come with Meta or Microsoft apps preinstalled are non choice for me even if adb can uninstall any apps. Google Pixel should claim flagship and leadership for Android phones instead of being carried by a third party such as Samsung or Xiaomi.

>>105662299 (OP)
good hardware + long term support
bloat is a non-issue, you just uninstall it
samsung software is and has always been complete dog across all devices from the founding of the company however
i would exclusively buy pixels if tensor wasn't a steaming pile of catshit

>>105662299 (OP)
>ships security updates much quicker than Xiaomi and supports S-series phones for 7 years
>much better battery life than Pixel
>Samsung apps have great UX
>more customizable than Pixel thanks to GoodLock
>non-technical people get actual support and same-day service at Samsung stores
Samsung is the only player large enough to actually give a shit about their products

>>105662299 (OP)
Xiaomi gives you better hardware for less money.

>>105663792
Maybe Google should make Pixels that don't explode and have minimal hardware problems before that.

>>105664374
Wasn't Samsung the brand that normies stopped buying because they were banned from airplanes for exploding

>>105664386
Yeah, and now it's Google's turn.

I was considering a Samsung for my next phone because of DEX

>>105662299 (OP)
Maybe my S23 has more "bloat" than my old OP 7 Pro but most of the stuff on my S23, even after the crap OneUI 7 update, is useful and the device is still more customizable while my OnePlus became a rabid piece of dogshit after Android 11. I cannot express just how bad that update was, it still makes me sick.
I got a little bit scared when Samsung released this last update because I don't want the same thing to happen with Samsung phones.

>>105662299 (OP)
>OnePlus
Worst company. In all of my android dev experience it's always oneplus devices causing fucking issues because of their retarded software.

>>105662299 (OP)
I'm a big fan of anything which runs GrapheneOS.

>>105662498
"uninstall"
If you don't have root, they aren't actually deleted.
Run a software update and those will magically reappear.

>>105662299 (OP)
normandies think expensive = good
all reasonable men use an iphone 15 pro max titanium (it's me, i am the reasonable man)

>>105666246
>normandies
That sounds so REEE!ddit.

>>105666674
you have to be 18 or older to post here

>>105666246
>normandies

>>105662299 (OP)
Well, if you decide to not go for Apple, either because you can't afford it, or you simply don't like Apple, there are few non Chinese options, so Samsung wins a lot of people over by that alone, also they have a ton of options in their lineup, which do offer great hardware for the prices they charge, and with long term OS support, something most brands besides Apple fail to do.

>Bloat
I know it sucks, but uninstalling it isn't too much trouble.

This will be the last time ill use a Samsung phone. Once this phone died ill switch to some other brand.

Last night my phone is at 100% and I go to bed. I wake up next morning and the battery is at 68%.

The worse thing about this whole thing is that the battery usage in the app list don't match up and there's like 20% of the battery usage missing and unexplained. I expect some Samsung fuckary happening. It's such a sus thing the the phone just lost 32% of its battery while Im sleeping, and without disclosing what is causing such a high battery usage.

>>105662299 (OP)
Why would you use the stock ROM?
Every Android phone I've used has either CyanogenMod or LineageOS installed on it (without GApps). One of my requirements for when I'm looking for new phones is that it must have official LineageOS support (with working VoLTE/IMS, so Samsung is not an option).
For the past 8 years I've been using Motorola phones, they're pretty good.

>>105662299 (OP)
Women see my samsung phone and they think I own a business.

>>105667883
>Why would you use the stock ROM?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox

>>105667835
What is your phone model?

>>105664449
Allegedly that is coming for all Android 16 later this year, though Dex will be benefitting from the changes and won't be a usurp

>>105665513
Any update on how they're going with Android 16 with no device trees or driver binaries?

>>105662299 (OP)
I have a coworker that's decided to switch to Android after getting envious that my £100 Motorola has stuff like Tubular and Stremio while he's paying for YouTube Premium and a bunch of streaming subscriptions which aren't even as good. His first thought is that he MUST get an expensive Samsung though.

>>105662299 (OP)
My current daily driver is an S24U and I debloated it using ADB. Yes, Samsung stock firmware is bloated but the main problem is duplicated Google/Samsung system apps and some shit like Global Goals. My main reason for debloating is to remove programs like Meta App Manager baked into the ROM. I don't trust Zuckerberg, nor do I use any kind of social media, so I get rid of this shit when I set up the phone out of the box. There are plenty of guides and software if you don't know how to use ADB to debloat any Android manufacturer's phones.

>>105668909
Feel free to check out the GrapheneOS mastadon account.

>>105668909
>Duress password
good idea but if you actually tried this at airport customs you would probably get arrested for destruction of evidence or some bs

>>105662299 (OP)
I bought a S24 because I want it to just werk. I'm not a phone person and I don't want to think about buying a new phone until at least 5 years from now.

>>105662396
Install GrapheneOS.

>>105662405
>Like what? some stuff are essential, but still can be removed (but you risk damaging the system)
lol

>>105662446
With GrapheneOS you can install only the apps that you need.
The only thing you are not able to use with GrapheneOS is Google Pay/Wallet.
Everything else works if you choose to also install Google Play Services.

I got a Samsung phone. How this happened:
Needed phone. Went to store and asked clerk for a phone and plan. They said they have this phone and that plan. I said I'll take it, thanks. Phone just works since 2021.
What's the problem here? It's a phone.

>>105669025
>Shipping Android 16 soon
Hell yeah.

>>105662299 (OP)
Why do you think the advertisement industry is worth so much?
Normies buy what is advertised to them. Samsung pays for all sorts of ads online, on billboards and for shills to tell everyone they make the "most high quality phones".

>>105666242
It's as up to date as it can get.
>>105667835
Duckduckgo is adware. They send your data to microsoft. look it up.

>>105670051
:)

>>105662299 (OP)
I can tinker with my phone now with good lock. That's the best thing Samsung has done in a while

>>105662299 (OP)
I just got a new Samsung budget smartphone, relatively cheap, 8GB RAM, 256GB storage, micro SD slot, headphone jack, years of OS and security updates, One UI 7.0, 120Hz refresh rate, the only downside is the waterdrop notch, big bezels and preinstalled apps, but I just uninstall those to keep only the apps I use, which is quick and easy to do, then dark mode makes the waterdrop notch not an issue as it barely appears and isn't much of an issue, same for the bezels. Samsung is just good, nothing more to it.

>>105667911
I thought anything but Apple was an "ick" in the US though?