Thread 105662993

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki:
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
• EPZ TP13 (8-Band PEQ) - $17
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>105654154

Best IEMs under $40,000?

>>105663051
Fox IEM, endgame.

>>105663051
Tarrifs hit you THAT hard?

for some reason i thought i could spin the things around so as to not have the cables go up and over my ears but the cables are reinforced in that stupid shape so now i'll look like a sperg with my overear cables

>>105663067
can confirm, g10 are pretty great

>>105663051
you already know and you still ask

>open the catalog
>headpos law

>>105663103
thank you asano for always having the biggest soundstage

>>105663211
gross

>>105663051
Origin Lost Manor + Luna AT + Cable X + T-APB tips + Asano blocks.
You will be set for life.

editor here
march and april formatted image sizes, may uploaded, half of june done and hopefully out early
eq guide still in progress regarding the myths and misconceptions section, same for the additional tools
as for the aes project, no relevant papers have been published according to eq guide anon so nothing there. still working and trying to figure out a way to have a proper organizational structure
hope you enjoy

Where's the ear orifice???

https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1lgp60h/pwm_sensitivity_is_not_only_about_lighting_and/
Does any of this affect IEMs to some extent?

>>105663418
>large ear holes
what a slut

>>105663449
No, unless you're some sort of freak running IEMs from a speaker amp. All headphone and IEM sources are class A or AB.

>>105663449
Your DAC is running on 50MHz PWM, it's over. Switch to vinyl immediately.

>>105663410
thanks, editorzo!!

fixed nozzle origin waiting room

If these are good for hearing aid, they should be good for iems.

>>105663410
>not dead
holy shit bro i can't believe you're still at it

>>105663569
выглядит кaк мoй хyй

>>105663567
At least you gave her 6 fingers in both hands.

>>105663567
so you're the anon who bought an RTX 5090...

>>105663713
No he's not I would never do AI.

I shall marry Asano then immediately commit infidelity.

>>105663930
Why would someone go after another woman when they have this at home?

>>105663930
you squander your power

Fell for the Hidizs AP80 Pro-X meme a while ago. It's okay, but the screen is too small to have comfy usability. By that I mean the lack of features such as add to queue, and kind of troublesome experience browsing a library with too many artists/albums.
Anyway, any recommendations for something better? Is anything with a bigger screen just better?

>>105664027
Shiroi is hotter.

>>105664195
Where's the Pure, rabbit slut?

>>105664111
fiio m21, hiby r4, shanling m3 plus, ibasso dx180

https://squig.link/?share=Harman_Adjusted_Target,Super_22_Target,IEF_Comp_Target,Kiwi_Ears_Cadenza,7Hz_Zero,7Hz_Zero_2
I'm looking for an iem that has the same treble as the zero 2 but has bass between zero 1 and zero 2, closest I found is the cadenza, what other iem share the same sound profile?

>>105664111
>Is anything with a bigger screen just better?
generally speaking yeah. you'll get a faster processor, more screen & touch space, more battery life, etc.
smol pmps like ap80 and shanling m0 serve a more niche purpose.
probably avoid other hiby os players, as they'll have similar UI/UX. maybe an android player is better for you, can use any supported players for the features you want

I like this pos

>>105664288
you should not really be looking at treble past 6khz it's quite unreliable. many iems float around a similar sound. i suggest you simply use simple eq software to tilt the sound of any iem you have more to your preference rather than spend more money on redundant ultra-budget iems.

>>105664219
>>105664331
Any reason not to go with the fiio m21 then?

>>105664381
dunno if any first-hand users here, it is quite new.
you can check this thread
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fiio-m21-qualcomm-snapdragon-680-fiio-android-portable-music-player-is-available.975977/
i would avoid any hype about "this sounds amazing," and whatever. your concern should be any negative points brought up by early adopters. bugs, glitches, etc.
fiio products tend to run hot, another small thing to keep in mind.

>>105664402
thanks friend, i'll probably go with this one once i finally decide to get another

>>105664524
>once i finally decide
heh there will be an m22 plus by then.
just kidding. but that's kinda how chi-fi is.

>>105664530
i'd still get it if it were good enough, i'd rather spend less for something good than buy the latest without justification. But i just need to save a little more neetbux and i'll probably get it

what's the point of consooming when you just can eq?

>>105664722
i've eq'd my aliexpress zhangqing manufacturing ltd nonames which came free as a 'gift' into 800Ses

>>105664793
Why would EQ to that pos...

>$3 hook
>perfect pos stand
>eartips safe from microbes of the table

>>105664813
it was the most achievable target tbqh

>>105664814
thinbezelfags seething rn

>>105664814
Asano holds my pos. She's my stand.

>>105664814
Store your pos in a case after you're done using them like a normal person

>>105664062 > >>105663770

>>105664860
/thread

how dangerous would a next gen edc pro with kz zenith large voice coil dynamic driver?

>>105664814
how many of these did you buy in case if the pos breaks?

>>105664897
Instant tinnitus.

>>105664860
enjoy your prematurely dead cables

>>105664860
Simply nutsackmaxx

>>105663290
>being a mentally ill pedophile who hates beautiful voluptuous women
>in the year 2025
Stay butt hurt, you silly boy! :3

>>105662993 (OP)
Nice shoes and socks, bro.

>>105665042
you tell em sista!

>>105662993 (OP)
All the crappy people are on instagram, how to punish them? Meta doesn't give away their information.

>>105663052
I have 3 pairs of EDC pro and they're all fine
only issue is non k standard cable so all my other ones don't fit

>>105665482
why do you have three of them?

>>105665482
>3 edc
bro's a baller

remember to buy a cute pos

>>105665482
ata, what's a k standard cable
some guy was praising the recessed bit where the cable plugs in is that not good enough

>>105665931
don't trust a company that meanders this bad.

>>105665931
Their AI skills are worse than the asano AI slop anon.

>browsing head-fi for inspiration
>found this setup
Bros, new idea for my Duality source conundrum: running dual monoblocks. First I need to find a banana-to-4pin XLR and then I've got some speaker amps to demo.

I somehow lost the case of my buds2. Fucking shit. Is there even replacement cases to buy somewhere?

>>105664860
you don't get it, when im at the desk im pulling the pos in and out a lot, like when someone talks to me or i need to go to the kitchen/bathroom, so putting them in a case takes a lot of effort. this method is simply the best

I like the castor pro black way more than the edc pro more bass and less shrill in the treble the way I can describe the edc pro is they're like sand paper even with a bit of eq

>>105666303
all that effort + what you spent, constitutes superfluous excess and you're still neck deep in the abyss of diminished returns and marginal gains.
it's a mental illness in and of itself when you thrive on the envy of others and seek validation of your purchases.
meanwhile, a $500 pos just blew your storm to sunk cost, so I really hope the XLRs help...maybe not. enjoy your cope.

>>105666544
>thrive on the envy of others and seek validation of your purchases
lmao if i actually cared about that shit I would be posting on head-fi. instead i blogpost on a Mongolian basket weaving forum where i get endlessly shit on everytime

>>105666303
>$2k cable techs mixing up with poorfag silver cable
that's the weak link of this setup

>>105666544
>thinking totlzo is that type of retard
totlzo is about 7 planes of delusion above what you can conceive, try a bit harder next time
>>105666303
that cable is still mega ugly, white and copper colorway with black and gold iem is atrocious, do better
>>105666627
same here, the least you can do is get a black cable, you have to go out of your way to get a silver cable for that connection wtf

>>105666303 (me)
>>105666544
>>105666627
>>105666643
i cant believe i have to say this: it's not my pic

>>105666666
what a fucking waste, i hate you totlzo

>>105666666
double satanic get being wasted is a great sign

>>105666666
>stormzo is the devil incarnate
makes sense desu

>>105666666
>of this setup =/= of your setup

>>105666666
>MFW there are butt hurt retards who have an objectively shitty reading comprehension
Tsk tsk!

>>105666671
>>105666711
>>105666716
>they actually care about posts numbers!
>in the year 2025!
You guys are dumber than a sack of diapers! It's not the year 2009 anymore!

>>105666725
>16 years since 2009
we're so old bros...
remember mr rin choi?

chumpzo...

>>105665943
KZ*
>>105665568
got one, they sent one without the mic, returned the money, ordered 2 more cause it was the same price as buying 1 more
now I have lifetime supply
>>105665642
you know it

>>105667125
where did you order from so I can finesse the shit out of them toog0pdw

Silence, Tyvan Lam is tuning their next masterpiece.

>>105667479
>tyvan
>tfz
dumb fuck

>>105667479
>ISO

>>105667499
>not knowing he's not the mastermind and OEM behind all cheap-fi brands

>>105667499
>not knowing he's the mastermind and OEM behind all cheap-fi brands

>>105667269
AliExpress coins page

Who Is RIGHT?

>>105667479
This guy is designing your pos using a $5 keyboard, a dirty monitor and a pamphlet as a mousepad

>>105667651
Let me guess! You think that he needs MORE!

>>105667651
That's what allows us to have endgame for under 20 dollars, xista. Be sure to thank the unpaid child labor as well.

*ThighAudeo Perish DP*

>>105667632
logically, rtings more or less
in colloquial audiofool speech, upper midrange / pinna gain are probably overused to describe fairly broad 1-5khz

>>105667632
probably rew in most production circles, followed by rtings, and finally mrs/listener for audiotard circles

almost broke my 1 year streak of not buying any new pos. I put on my edc pros and listened, only to realize how good I already have it and the urge to buy disappeared into thin air

*Thieaudio Prestige LTD*

Reconnect with the cosmos, you are a star child, a alchemist. Unlock your latent powers to travel back in time to save the uniberse from the 2012 (CERN) event.

Oceanlab
https://on.soundcloud.com/LDXzrC9A8SDzxe4n7

*ZiiGaat Odyssey*

Journey with the stars, where it all began

Woke up this morning to this, audio still works fine as usual, would it be too bad to just wrap some electrical tape and call it a day?
>buying new ones is out of the question right now

>>105668326
you own fault for buying cheap shit

>EQ my POS to the Arpgear Topping Hane with a certain switch configuration
>Sounds great
>Decide to just buy the Hane instead of having to go through the trouble of EQing my current pos to it on every device I own
>It arrives and I set the same switch configuration as the autoEQ profile I was running
>It sounds far worse than my previous pos with it autoEQ'd to the Hane
What the fuck
It's also far lower volume compared to all my other pos, maybe that's why it sounds worse to me. Does the Hane take more juice than usual IEMs? I have like a $300 PMP that doesnt have issues with other IEMs but on this one even cranking it up to 100% volume doesnt sound loud enough.

>>105668447
lol

>>105668447
Yes it needs a little more power but if you're blasting it at 100% you're already deaf most likely. Which PMP?

>>105666544
>diminishing returns
Bro is solid in the negative returns, can't even bring his IEMs outside.
>>105668447
>he thought he can escape EQ
Rookie mistake.

>>105668447
yes it's harder to drive
>sounds far worse
isn't actually describing anything. if it doesn't get loud enough, you are not comparing 1:1 first of all. and skill issue. you eq'd unintentional differences because you are have misplaced overconfidence in measurements, and are not eq'ing the specific units in your ears

>>105668494
Hiby R4.
100% volume is enough to deafen me on pretty much every other IEM i've tried but on this one it sounds more like what 70% volume of other IEMs sound like
>Wow you really must be fucking deaf
I guess so, it is what it be.

>>105668523
I tried Tanchjim SG II, at 100% its louder than my regular listening volume... with a -12dB EQ preamp. Based on online sources, it looks like the SG II is 1.6Vrms and your Hiby is 2.3Vrms. I think you might be cooked.

>>105668447
>autoEQ
show your process in detail, starting with the pos you're using EQ on, the preset you chose, and where you're applying all of this
also yes you are deaf

>>105668579
I mean I already know that I'm a high volume enjoyer and I prefer more volume to the average non-deaf individual
But as I said none of the other IEMs I've tried have been this low volume at 100% on my Hiby R4.
>What other IEMs have you tried?
Most of the $20 1DD pos for starters just because they're all that ever gets talked about in this thread.
But I also have sets that are around the same price as the Hane like the Tanchjim Fission and Truthear Nova that have the same kind of volume level as the cheap crap 1DD ones where around 75-80 volume is good and 100 will destroy my eardrums, yet with Hane even 100 isnt enough.

>>105668596
>show your process in detail
>starting with the pos you're using EQ on
Tanchjim Fission
>the preset you chose, and where you're applying all of this
Squig.link, I choose Fission and Hane, I choose Fission in the EQ, hit AutoEQ, export, load it into the Hiby R4 PEQ

>>105668613
>But as I said none of the other IEMs I've tried have been this low volume at 100% on my Hiby R4.
Yeah, the Hane is less sensitive than almost all pos out there because of the passive filter for the switches. I never expected it to be an actual problem for people, I saw only upsides because less sensitivity also means less sensitivity to hiss and I get way more than enough volume even on weaker sources.

>>105668626
Naruhodo.
So what I'm experiencing isn't just placebo then? The Hane is in fact harder to drive at higher volumes compared to most IEMs?

>>105668613
ok the process looks fine, so this is mostly explainable by the fact that measurements aren't perfectly accurate to what the FR at your eardrum is
until you start doing level-matched comparisons, any differences you're hearing now will be hard to correct. hane is harder to drive than many, but i'm both surprised and concerned that you listen to such high volumes

>>105668633
Yeah, for most pos on SG II I'm at 30-50% with the same -12dB preamp.

>>105668596
Dont listen to this eq guide nigga, hes just foaming cause no iems, pagpaggy

>>105668643
>hane is harder to drive than many, but i'm both surprised and concerned that you listen to such high volumes
I guess I'm just a special boy with special ears then. I remember seeing a post a few days ago or a week ago or so talking about how 4% windows volume was too loud for them with IEMs plugged in to the motherboard and most people agreed and that completely fucking blew my mind based on any IEM I've ever tried plugging in to my computer across different MOBOs

I guess it goes to show how everyone perceives volume and frequency response differently and how there's no right answer for everyone.

*facepalm*
no u tard. it's just sensitivity and impedance of different audio gear.

>>105668674
is there a slur for frogposters?
>>105668678
>4% windows volume was too loud for them with IEMs plugged in to the motherboard
that was with the apple dongle, motherboards vary quite a lot so it's a crapshoot
4% windows with apple dongle is around 65-75 dBA, which is pretty average for listeners at home in a quiet environment.

>>105668688
*sigh*
*facepalm*
*xD*
Nah, we already established I'm apparently deaf as fuck, I don't really know if that other stuff you mentioned has anything to do with it though.

>>105668678
Dont even listen to these no iem niggas, yes, good DACs will drive most iems at 4% windows just fine, and some are more insensitive.

HERES THE THING:

These niggas are poor and the thought od their puny itoddler dongles or whatnot not powering their pagpag device fully scares them into coping

>>105668326
>would it be too bad to just wrap some electrical tape and call it a day?
if you don't have a choice anyway, just do it. should work for some time.

>>105669257
> iems at 4% windows
why the fuck would you want to degrade the audio signal?

>>105666725
It's not even bad reading comprehension, it's borderline illiteracy.

>>105669257
>yes, good DACs will drive most iems at 4% windows just fine
This has to be some actual poorfag cope right?
4% windows volume is just fine? Are you fucking for real? What the fuck grassroots alt-medicinal herb are you smoking that 4% on Windows volume is too loud for you?
Boomers being deaf to treble is one thing but claiming 4% windows volume is too loud for you is straight up third world zoomer shit.
What are you fucking smoking that 4% is too much for your third world ears?

>>105669693
1mW drives most IEMs to 106dB. Apple dongle has 30mW.

>>105669710
I dont care. If anyone is claiming that 4% on windows volume is too loud for them you are either actually fucking incredibly crazy hard of hearing or something is genuinely seriously wrong with your computer's audio rig. There is just no fucking way in hell anyone is listening on 4% windows volume to the point it's bleeding their eardrums. Something has to have gone wrong somewhere along the audio lines there.

>>105669726
Nigga listens to 130dB and gets mad when we call him deaf.

What exactly is the argument against hybrids? When comparing Hexa to Gate I feel like the high treble is better on the Hexa. Given that it has a BA dedicated to the high frequencies (see green line in picrel), it seems to me like it's a good idea. Ignore the part that the other BA is not high-passed, but wouldn't a 1DD + 1BA be better than 1DD, if the BA is high-passed somewhere above 2 kHz?

>>105669736
I just can't comprehend that literal 4% volume is going to somehow bleed your fucking ear drums.
I can't even imagine how bad 100% volume on that would blow your fucking brain out into the next dimension if only 4% is loud enough to make you basically make you rethink your life.

>>105669750
The argument is avoid BA pos in general.

>>105669750
>What exactly is the argument against hybrids?
EQzos hate them

>>105669750
I have heard multiple people here say to avoid BA pos
Yet none of them ever say *why* to avoid BA pos

>>105669777
Nice trips, but still a strawman fallacy nonetheless.

>>105669784
>but it's 4%...

>>105669799
Nice dubs!
But still a strawman fallacy...

>>105669387
>>105669693
>>105669726
Retard doesnt know what an external DAC is

>>105669387
You dont degrade your signal cause your pc only sends the file to your DAC, nothing happens on windows but the data transfer.

Mutt hours are disgusting

>>105669804
No, he doesn't know what a percent is. 4 is a small number so it must be quiet.

>>105669726
Just shut the fuck up you retarded fucking newfag
Holy shit
Imagine being this stupid looool

>>105669780
BA change their FR at different volume levels while DD and planars don't have this problem.

>>105669780
>>105669827

>>105669750
There's no good argument against hybrids.
But also remember that treble is very individualistic and fit dependent so you feeling that one is better than the other doesn't necessary mean it's because of drivers.

Just hit play and enjoy the soundstage

>>105669827
Unironically negligible

>>105669827
>>105669831
This doesn't seem to affect anything above 3 kHz, so a hybrid with a dedicated treble BA should not be affected by this.
>>105669842
This is true. I'm testing with the same tips, and every time it's the same result. E.g. this: https://youtu.be/J1KM0KUvJPs, on the Hexa there is more air, while the Gate sounds low-fi in comparison.

>>105669891
Well that's because hexa literally has more treble. You probably can eq it for gate without much trouble. But it also has more to do with its tuning rather than it being 1dd.

g10 or q1pro is all you need

>>105663067
Mental Illness.

>>105669983
I agree

ok im gonna stop now, promise

>>105668633
Yes, it's about 11 dB quieter than your average pos.
Also not all music is equally loud in the digital domain. I've observed differences of up to 20 dB, more is possible. That obviously complicates comparisons with other people unless you know you're listening to exactly the same thing.

>>105669257
>>105669693
>>105669811
IT NEVER GOES BELOW 100
AND I STILL HEAR LOUD AND CLEAR

>>105670861
What dac are you using?

>>105669710
Would EU apple dongle be quieter? I can easily do 10-15% with 1dd

>>105670931
It is quieter.

>>105670931
Yeah, it's 0.5 Vrms instead of 1 Vrms.

>>105670910
Fosi K7 which, UNLIKE A FIIO K11, is not disconnecting all the fucking time.

>>105670977
Hope you learned your lesson with f**o.

>>105671010
Absolutely. The only other thing I own that is made by them is a cheap DAP, echo mini. Not planning on getting anything else from them.

>>105670977
It has a volume knob you dingus. How the fuck is your shit relevant to the conversation?

>>105671080
>relevant to the conversation
>relevant
>converstation
Are you sure you're in the right thread?

>>105671098
You get that apple dongle does not have a volume control so there's no other choice other than to putting system volume at 4%?

>>105671124
Use Equalizer APO to set a negative pre-gain instead of using the windows volume control to have the processing done internally at 32bit resolution and keep most of the dynamic range intact.

>>105671337
Windows is using hardware volume control.

Buy red

>>105671608
Buy ozempic

whats the best desktop dac/amp i can get for ~$500

>>105672263
JDSLabs Element or Topping DX5 II

>>105669804
4% windows volume going into a dac is still a degraded signal going into the dac, dipshit

>>105669810
wrong. wrong as hell

>>105672394
>>105672403
Stop reading blogs and read how it actually works.

>>105662993 (OP)
Where did the Papers section go from the EQ guide? I swear it was there just a month ago!

>>105672447
>eq guide reader is schizophrenic
eqfags in shambles

>>105672447
gazette's archieve nigga
[books and articles]
https://mega.nz/folder/cchSBaBQ#WwAguZeGclZkxzvwVNSryQ

>>105671337
>set a negative pre-gain instead of using the windows volume...keep most of the dynamic range intact.... processing done internally at 32bit resolution

you lower system volume, pregain on peace, or even volume control on your dac, you also lower bit rate.

a dac with a physical volume rocker is important, given you have system and app volume at 100. only way I end up clipping is if I fuck with eq myself, which at that point, a -2db or so of pregain doesn't really matter.

also...setting pregain to, -30db so you can push your amp all the way up, does nothing.

>>105672422
it’s basic digital audio math. digital attenuation (EVERY time you lower windows volume or music app volume or even equalizerapo) at 4% volume = truncated bit depth before your DAC ever sees the signal. that's how that works.

>>105672489
I have to correct myself. volume rocker on a dac DOES NOT lower bit rate. its still digital attenuation though.

>>105672456
Fuck you!
>>105672485
Gentlest kisses for you, my nigger.

>>105672634
pretty neat but who's going to gookhell nowadays

>>105672517
Go to the blog you read that from and get a refund. Windows uses hardware volume control. It sends the DAC the original signal, the DAC adjusts its volume.

>>105672703
This is how you get audio at 0% volume with some DACs btw.

>>105672517
>>105672703
Can somebody explain how it actually works? With sources

>>105672757
no

>>105672703
wrong. windows volume control in shared mode is digital. it applies attenuation in the audio engine before the dac ever sees the signal. windows doesn’t ‘tell the dac to turn down’ unless the dac exposes hardware volume controls, which most don’t. enjoy your 8-bit audio at 4% windows volume, champ

>>105672783
Apple dongle exposes hardware volume control. Don't buy shit DACs.

Literally in the UAC 2.0 spec.

>>105672793
>apple dongle supports UAC2 hardware volume.
congrats. it still doesn't have a physical volume rocker. you named one device that actually does it. but windows doesn’t magically force hardware volume on everything. most dacs still rely on software attenuation in shared mode. it's not about shit dacs, it's about you not really understanding how windows audio works.

>>105672489
you lower system volume, pregain on peace, or even volume control on your dac, you also lower bit rate.
Of course, but you'll always be better off doing the attenuation with 32bit float precision than 24bit.

>>105672855
>you named one device that actually does it
supports UAC2, I meant. not having a rocker.

>>105672855
Volume knobs have channel imbalance, avoid.

>>105672860
>Of course, but you'll always be better off doing the attenuation with 32bit float precision than 24bit.
would be a good point if windows shared more maintained 32 but all the way through. once it downsamples to 24 or 16 bit to send to most dacs, your float headroom doesn't mean dick. attenuation before that step still kills dynamic range and resolution.
4% windows volume and you're in lossyworld

>>105672893
not all of them

For me, it's the Truthear Gate

>>105672943
For me it's Gate.

>complaints about lost bits
>physically can't hear the difference

>>105673004
I heard this nigga say that he likes wired pos because they can get louder than BT. He's confirmed deaf as fuck, BT headphones/iems already get loud enough to blow out your eardrums and he listens even louder than that.

>>105673032
Or you could just look at his target and know he's deaf.

>>105673043
His target is just a jm1 clone, jm1tards confirmed deaf as fuck

do you niggers even listen to music or just argue about some pointless shit all day long?

speaking of deaf, which iem has the best compliance with 5128 DF?

>>105673004
it's more about knowing I'm taking care of the signal before it hits my ears.

>>105673099
Only real music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jZLYF7WNKs

>>105673099
Why are you here? This is not a music board

>>105673124
to troll little bitches like you

>>105672981
For me, it's frog

>>105673148
Frog IEM, endgame.

>>105673032
>BT headphones/iems already get loud enough to blow out your eardrums
only cheap chink shit that doesn't conform to regulations

>>105673148
>expect artti r2
>enlarge the pic
>it's some frogshit
nope

>>105673185
Uh no I have the ones he showed in the video (the fecal shitpos) and they definitely get loud enough to rape your ears. They also sound fucking horrible but the ANC is okay so I just wear iems underneath.

>>105673057
Less than 12dB of bass = opinion discarded.

Why does this thread attract so many retards wondering why we are discussing technology in here? It's genuinely an interesting topic what happens to the signal from the source until it reaches our pos, and some sub 60 iq cretins coming in here like
>i just want to listen to music
then stay the fuck away from a technology board
picrel is how I imagine these idiots look like

>>105673218
>needs nigger bass
opinion discarded

headpos law x twshit theory collab

>>105673234
Class 3 begone.

>>105673224
we're talking about what we use the tech for. which is fine.
change your tampon, you uppity faggot

>>105673245
>we're talking about what we use the tech for. which is fine.
you got me wrong, I agree it's fine to talk about music in here, no problem.
But no one should complain about technical discussions, even if it's autistic and pointless

>new moonderp
HYPE!!

sheetzo, pls post graphs of ruta10

>>105673359
Here you go

>>105673405
much appreciated !

>>105673405
graphs like an mt5, looks pretty good
might get this one later although i don't know how to feel about the shell

>>105673443
It fits similar to the illustrious without the oppenness, but thats probably not a good reference. The shells are on the smaller side.

>>105673405
Genuine question, how do you guys listen to music with no mids?

>>105673470
for me it's about the nozzle angle, it doesn't look all that angled
is it similar to the chu?

>>105673320
Women are also class 3, deafzo.

Budget is $10. Maybe $15

>>105673531
EDC Pro, or Ruta10, or MT5

epz or simgot?

>>105673591
epz

>>105673591
Does simgot even have anything worth buying?

editor here
eq guide anon is asking whoever posted the impulse responses of the ea500lm and zero2 if they can use it in their myths and misconceptions section, and if yes could they provide the frequency response and impulse response overlays for the three measurements (ea500lm, zero2 no eq, zero2 eq)
if wanted, you can also be credited with whatever you want (comment, image, etc)

>>105673591
Epz for the Ez Pz endgame

>>105673482
Mids don't even exist.

>>105673485
The shell itself is angled

>>105673717
WTF
ok that did not come across well on the pics i've seen, that's pretty cool
i'll get it when one of my pos breaks down

>>105673657
Both graphs were from crin and the EQ was all performed inside REW through convolution. The impulse to convolve with was generated in all SPL > trace arithmetic > A/B. EQ guide needs something higher quality, you can repeat this process with a rig, apply the impulse in APO and measure again, that will leave no wiggle room for bullshit complaints.

>>105673671
This is the ideal frequency response. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>white man into incest and asmr target top1
>trannies targets most disliked
who would have thought...

>>105673650
ea500 mostly (shitty scratchable shell tho)

>>105673650
ea500lm for sure.

Chu 3 when?

>>105673996
Never. The real question is, Truthear Pure when?

>>105673996
sorry friend

>>105673224
What technology are you discussing? How windows handling volume without any sources? Techs and soundstage? There's at most three anons here who know their shit, and they post once per thread, if that much.

>>105674310
Fox technology.

>>105674310
You are a retarded gorilla nigger. Never reply to me again.

>>105674310
>at most three anons
who?

>>105674361
Fox, rat, paid bunny shill.

remember to press play and enjoy your music

>>105673767
t. picrel

>>105674353
Or what? What you're gonna do if I reply to your noargumment post again, pissboy?

>>105673148
>>105673148
It's over isn't Thieaudio bros...?

Let's give a 1 last stand against them all
(The rats, the foxes, and now the frogs)
Thieaudio bros... stand up,
STAND UP

Remember that as power increases, distortion drop so using your dongle at 4% you're getting worse performance

>>105674625
Bitnigger doesn't know how to read power vs distortion graph, who would have guessed.

>>105674638
How do you feel about missing bits and having worse THD+N?

>>105674672
>listen here liberal, I listen at 130dB not because I'm deaf, but because I care about the signal to noise ration

>>105674611
noone buys that pos except you

as long as you're gain-staging correctly, you shouldn't have to think about bit loss, ever.

>>105674638
Is the reason that thd+n is getting better the higher the power, that the noise is constant; so the more power, there is less noise in comparison?

>>105674611
$1300 prestige ltd is mogged by $500 top pro

>>105674809
Yes. You only begin seeing the distortion at the "knee" of the graph.

>>105674798
What stages are there? If I have a dongle and a computer, I plug it in, there is only one stage, isn't it?

>>105674838
all the points in your signal path where volume (gain) can be adjusted. if you only have a dongle and a computer, there are multiple gain stages, both digital and analog.
software output level is the first gain stage. the volume of your music player, daw, etc.
next is your eq software, if applicable. equalizer apo and music apps have their own gan stage. setting a negative preamp for any reason, is a gain stage.
some dongles use digital volume attenuation before converting to analog.
then it's the dongle hardware, if it has physical volume controls, that's another stage.
ideally, you want your dac/amp to be the sole controller of final volume output, assuming your software's volume is at 100% as well as system/phone volume at max.

>>105673148
Curious...

Best low budget IEMs for noise-cancellation/sleeping? I would assume a low profile driver would help.

I got a moondrop Chu II half a year back, but the right ear driver is starting to die. Starts off with weak audio and within 10 minutes it goes nearly silent.

>>105674996
frogposterzos? your response?

>>105674996
>xhe doesn't know that half of the pics posted here come from leddit and tardfi

>>105674996
no doxx pls

Lemme guess, you need more

Does EPZ g10 and EPZ g20 have the same shell? Only Q1 pro would have different one?

Truthear Pure news?

>>105675265
they all have the same
>>105675296
mid q3 release in china

>>105675296
enjoying it rn very nice jm-1 tilt

Odrerd a POS none of you ever heard of. Gatekeeping it for myself.

>>105675403
Nooooo.... please... tell us....

>>105674996
what is this IEM anyway?

>>105675350
Stop teasing me, bunny whore. Release it. NOW.

>>105664204
Shiroi will never be pure.

>>105673103
Chu 2 + Chuzo's EQ

>>105674611
Buy and add faggot.

>>105675241
shitty laptop, shitty anime, good tws

https://www.tempotec.net/products/tempotec-v1-hifi-music-player

WOW!

>humble Raycons brutally mog ALL """IEMs""" ITT
What does this make you feel?
Are you okay, bub?

>>105675837
>comes with 10 band PEQ
if this thing doesn't hiss it just made the surfans garbage in the OP obsolete

>>105675837
>>105675849
wish they'd show more technical specs. the pre-sale seems like a decent deal for a blind buy, but I wouldn't blind buy it.

>>105675860
>be a failed rapper
>fuck kim k
>still fail at rap
>start a headphone company that nobody asked for and caters to the uninformed impulse buyer
>profit???

so in the past like 2 weeks I've tried a few IEM's for both gaming and watching media cause I couldnt rely solely on youtube reviews alone.
>Hexa
liked the fit and feel but the audio felt off to me for both gaming and videos
>Tanchjim bunny
the all arounder, backup IEMs in case something breaks or i need something while waiting for another pair. worth every penny
>moondrop chu 2
fits snug enough, audio is a bit better than the bunnys
>Zero Reds
very good but didnt fit well in my ears to warrant keeping
>Wan'er1&2
the Wan'er1 felt a bit off with vocals compared to the 2, I think if I were to settle on a midrange IEM at the moment it would be the Wan'er 2 as it fit well and sounded excellent overall but I wish it came in jade green
atm still waiting to recieve a pair of 7hz saltones zero's and a pair of Truthear gates.

>>105675915
RENT FREE LMAO

moondrop fixed qa?

>>105676005
Moondrop always had good QA, only exception is their cheap shit and cringicle collabs. And faceplates falling off.

>>105662993 (OP)
>>PMPs:
>• HiBy R1 - $85
>• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
>• HiBy M300 - $200

Do these have it where you can load a playlist, but loop a single file - then easily go to next?

As an example, I make loops of audio of a poem I am memorizing. Then once I do that loop a while I want to go forward and loop the next one in the playlist.

>>105675849
>V1
ZULUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81yJ_Jb-NXw&

>>105675937
you think you're winning, aww.

that's cute.

>>105675935
on that note does anyone know how the TANGZU XuanNv compare to the Wan'er 2?

Remember. Listen to your songs, not to your gear. Stop visiting audio equipment foruns and sites (including this general). Stop consuming audio equipment and go support the music artists you like.

>>105676134
looks almost normal

>>105676211
thats no fun, hippiezo
we need to argue about inaudible things like it's ww3

>>105676229
we do and it IS ww3

>>105676192
havent heard waner 2, but xuan nv is surprisingly smooth and good for longer listening sessions. iirc, the bass was decent, too. after driver flex issues, I returned them and bought ea500lm and never looked back.

how do I clean my stuff without just pushing the wax through the filter or into the driver (i'm retarded)

>>105676366
buy a hearing aids brush, that makes it easy
avoid wide eartips or buy tips with wax guard like azla max also helps

>>105676407
forgot le pic

pmp with lots of buttons

>>105676366
get over the ears :^) solved the problem for me.

>>105676435
>>105676435