>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/DYQCcJwH

Previous: >>105657744

Building a new system and need a new SSD.
>Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2TB - $120
>Samsung 990 Pro 2TB - $150
>Samsung 9100 Pro - $175
This will be an OS install drive and game installation drive. For reference I am on a Samsung 960 EVO 500GB with 32% life left on it (according to Crystaldiskinfo, Samsung Magician states health as "good").

I feel like for general use and gaming, the 9100 Pro is a meme, but I may be mistaken. From what I can tell, the 970 EVO Plus is TLC as is the 990 Pro, but the Pro has dedicated DRAM cache. Does this matter at all? The price difference from the EVO Plus to the Pro is only $30 so it's not the end of the world, just don't want to be buying placebo for the sake of placebo.

This is the OP.

>NEWS
Nova lake and zen6 leaks. Zen 6 to hit clocks well above 6ghz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aZeBe6p6eY

New thread rippers coming out next month
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-9000-set-to-launch-in-july-up-to-26-faster-than-tr-7000-series

>>105665555 (witnessed)
If you're not transferring massive files on the reg then you won't notice any difference between them.

>>105665587
Nah just basic use. Occasionally moving a 50GB file around. Movies and the like. Does DRAM cache effect overall longevity?

>>105665581
Another Radeon haver with buyer's remorse. Many such cases.

>>105665581
Hi dlss schizo. I see you've changed your style a bit so people hopefully don't recognize you but I'm not fooled. You were making the same type of posts a while ago at the start of each thread crying that you didn't get to bake with your shit OP shilling njudea. This guy is a disgusting freak check the imgur link in the pastebin in OP and you'll learn something pretty awful about him.
>>105665516 (OP)

>>105665612
This guy's got that mass-replier in his head rent free™.
You're just the Radeon equivalent of him.
You post stale thumbnails & benchmarks just like he used to.

>>105665604
Not in the context of "onboard DRAM vs. HMB".

>>105665581
kek he overpaid over MSRP for an AMD card and now he's dedicated his entire existence online to being in the coping and denial stage terminally.

>>105665581
I remember when the OP's had good advice and even news sections
now it's just some mentally ill bong amdrone spamming the thread 100+ times

I bet he loves the attention. He loves being a retarded trolling faggot on purpose. It's the only attention he gets in his life. The attention his step-parents forgot to give him.

>105665581
>105665607
>105665618
>105665627
>105665636
this thread is dead. like 5 real posters vs 100 pajeet njudea shills derailing every thread

>>105665652
It's not just this thread, you just got bullied really hard on /v/ earlier and all I did was watch them rip you apart and disengage with any of your posts. You don't belong anywhere.

hello /pcbg/ I need emotional support

>>105665666
You really need to take your meds. I haven't been on /v/ in a long time. I hate the faster boards.

>>105665685
Kek lying now? Not surprised. You're a fat liar. As usual. You're very obvious when you're heated. See the thread below for more details.

>>>/v/713247638

>>105665652
Your behavior is turning people away from this general, take your paranoia down a notch.

They see me buildin'
They hatin'

>>105665694
Oh that thread I forgot since I don't care about this internet slap fight like you do. I didn't make the OP and I made exactly one post rage baiting with the 5070 ti blackscreen pasta before going to sleep. The rest of the posts in that thread are not me.

>>105665719
whatever you say, proven terminally online liar.

always so much hostility in these threads

i just wanna build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XxkmpK

Any problems before I order? The RAM kit isn't on the Motherboard QVL list, but it's 6000MHz, CL30, and has AMD EXPO. I've seen reviews of people claiming it worked fine in various B650 boards.
>>105665622
ended up just choosing the 990Pro 1TB. $25 more for a higher end drive. What's that little amount of money for something I'm going to use every day for years to come?

>>105665732
You're the paranoid schizo stalking other boards and assuming that any threads about AMD are created by the same person. Get a life.

The threads dead because of this single amdrone that spams 100+ posts every single thread
Nobody else even bothers to make these threads any more, only him
Nobody reads the OP anymore
He's proven many times he knows nothing about any components
It's just endless spam images over and over again no different to any other general
come back in non-bong hours when the thread becomes briefly usable again
until then enjoy 100+ posts of reddit screenshots, schizo shilling and endless attention whoring

>>105665760
>Get a life.
Rich coming from the faggot who sits on his PC all day complaining about NVIDIA all day to nobody who cares enough to give your shill bait a reply.

>>105665774
I'm also 99% sure from this now you're also the frog spammer that keeps making those "NVIDA WON WOW THANK YOU NVIDIA" with a plebbit frog every once in a while. You call me a trolling shill while engaging in this kind of behavior? Hypocrite faggot.

>>105665555
checked

>>105665792
Take your own advice and take your own meds you paranoid retard.

>>105665607
>>105665627
>>105665666
>>105665732
>>105665774
The Nicoposting OP could've bought a 5070Ti Gaming OC for US $780 but decided to wait™ for a cheaper 9070XT.
He's got the mass-replier and the 5070Ti Gaming OC stuck in his head, rent free™.

>>105665807
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/OXQK8CDFaTBaTqnLOoEP6g/
This you freak? Calling other people spammers and trolling shills while spamming low effort plebbit frog posts periodically for months now.

>>105665858
>>105665827
Oh boy I made him have a meltie. Thanks for ruining these threads with your autism anon.

>DXGI_ERORR
>GPU WONT PROCESS ANYMORE COMMANDS
>nvlddmkm.sys BSOD

Is this the amdrone therapy general? ItdDoesn't seem to be working. Is it a bong? I thought they had free healthcare but it seems it sucks.

>>105665864
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/gZ37yRAIbgbum2ghkoMwZg/
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105434127/#q105434271
Samefagging and replying to yourself with plebbit frogs since early march at least. Pathetic. Too bad mods are useless and this thread is just a free for all for trolling shills like yourself.

>>105665767
If someone is retarded enough to read the OP and then nicotroon's posts and decides it's safe to follow his advice, he deserves it lmao

Has anyone here bought the ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQDMG? I read some reviews, watched the RTings video and read their review and pulled the trigger but I'm wondering how you all feel if you bought it. I was going to use it for my PC display and my Switch 2 as well

>>105665904
>Samefagging and replying to yourself with plebbit frogs since early march at least
There's no same fagging going on.
More than one person in /pcbg/ is fed up with your bullshit.

https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/T4LxUYlATtWmAmC4C2ALdA%3D%3D/page/2/
Wow that's crazy this fag has actually been shitting up pcbg with his "AYYMD SUX" reddit frog spam since 2022. Even shills for craptel against ryzen. Shameless.

PSA
>AMD CPU + AMD GPU is a good choice
>Trolls ITT actively shill nvidia and report positive things about AMD to jannies trying to get them banned for flame war(even if they're not flaming)
>DLSS schizo is a poorfag with 4070, naturally his entire personality is fake frames and upscaling technology(he often posts outdated and/or cherry picked images to fit his narrative)

>>105665958
ASUS OLED monitors are nice, the 24/25" screen mode is best-in-class if you use it for competitive games.
I'm guessing you also researched WOLED vs. QD-OLED, that's down to personal preference.
ASUS is going to release new 32" WOLED monitors with True Black glossy panel finish, but these will be sold at a higher price tier compared to your ROG monitor.
https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/32-inch-glossy-woled-panels-debut-in-the-rog-strix-oled-xg32ucwmg-and-xg32ucwg-gaming-monitors/

>>105665958
Not quite but I got the XG27UCS today and so far I'm really liking it. Too be fair it was an older one that was like 150€ and I think you can't even buy it anymore, so my expectations weren't that high. Regardless I'm happy. It's not your model but also ASUS ROG Strix, so I think you're good

Here is the updated post history of the OP's (Nicoposter) descent to madness.
>Hyped up 9070XT/RDNA for months, believing he'd get 4080 performance for $150~200 less than a 5070Ti
>Priced out his desired Hellhound card, settled with ASUS Prime (not a bad model btw)
>He only saved $90 by passing on the $780 5070Ti Gaming OC
The best part is this guy brought up that missed 5070Ti opportunity after he purchased the 9070XT, unprompted. Kek.

>>105666026
>Too be fair it was an older one that was like 150€ and I think you can't even buy it anymore
Uhhhh before this I meant to say it's much better than the monitor I replaced it with. Sry, I'm tired

>>105666043
The cope is palpable.

>>105666043
>The best part is this guy brought up that missed 5070Ti opportunity after he purchased the 9070XT, unprompted.
He's not ashamed to admit his faults. Honestly based.

>>105665756
The parts look fine, and the memory kit will work with your CPU & motherboard.
When you check the memory QVL, a validated kit with the same speed & similar timings is usually enough.

>>105666043
As is the case with many of AMDrones, they originally were gunning for a NVIDIA gpu but once it went out of stock due to demand, they settled for AMD for slightly less money. How did he know that the GPU he was going to buy was going to have rattling fans? Just sounds like cope to justify his loss of his opprotunity to buy a Team Green GPU.

>>105665997
>I'm guessing you also researched WOLED vs. QD-OLED, that's down to personal preference
I didn't do that no, this says WOLED and glossy which I didn't really know much about. I was just looking for an affordable OLED model with good HDR to pair with my Switch 2 and also maybe something to use as my main display for my desktop, though that second part I'm still debating on.

I'm not the smartest man in the world, all I essentially researched was price, the quality of the panel, the brightness, whether it supports HGIG for HDR, how vibrant the colors are, etc.

>>105666026
>>105666052
That one looks really nice, I hope you're enjoying it so far! ASUS seems like a really good company. I like all the extras you get. I'm a bit of a consoomer unfortunately but I can be easily won over with tiny gestures like the pouch their monitors come with, the micro fiber cloth, the nice looking branded cables, etc.

>Ryzen 7700 + 5070 Ti
>Ryzen 7800X3D + 9070 XT

This is about the same price here. The fuck is a better choice???

>>105666043
I really want him to continue to shit up the thread. He's doing more damage to amd than any shill can do.
There's someone similar who's taken VCZ comment section hostage but I suspect he's being paid to do it. All he achieves is turning people away from even considering amd.

>>105666097
7800x3d + 5070ti. The x3d matters when it does.

>>105666088
>whether it supports HGIG for HDR
That was important to research and I think only Alienware & ASUS OLED monitors have HGIG support (Console Mode).

>>105666043
it's not that much slower than the 4080.

>>105665516 (OP)
What parts do I need to run a AI/LMM locally? I've heard scary stories of people frying their motherboards because they ran thier local AI on some cheap laptop or desktop & it fucked up their VRAMs & GPUs. Im thinking about getting a desktop for the job. Im willing to speand about $2000, but I don't know where to start. Any suggestions?

>>105666134
For LLMs, you'll need at least a 4090. 24gb is the minimum for large models. 5090 is expensive but it allows you to run truly impressive LLMs right at home.

Is Galax a decent brand for Nvidia GPUs?

>>105666126
So I did the right thing then! I was hoping I did, I saw a random comment on Reddit I think that said "If the display doesn't have HGIG support then it doesn't have HDR" which I thought was kind of dramatic but here we are.

>>105666155
It's simpler to set up a more accurate HDR mode for your display with HGIG support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X84e14oe6gs

>Premium: SN850X
>Flagship: SN8100
what's the deal with these recommendations? are they much better than 990? 990 is like 30% cheaper

>>105666152
Is RTX 5090 really the best? CPU wise, would Intel or AMD be the best?

>>105666128
9070xt = 4080
if you look at averages 4080 takes the lead since there are couple outlier games that heavily favor nvidia or with forced RT such as wukong. then if you look the individual results, 9070xt is often ahead

>>105666175
Boy I watched this video repeatedly trying to make HDR look good with the cheaper monitor I have, it's what convinced me that I needed a better panel with HGIG if I wanted a really nice one

>>105666186
All decent gen4 SSD are so fast you will never notice any difference except extreme workstation loads 99.9% of people here will never use in their life.

Samsung is generally considered the best because they have the best software, but it's not worth much higher price.

990 EVO Plus is a great budget drive.

>>105666198
Unfortunately for AI, CUDA and Tensor/Torch is pretty much required so yes, NVIDIA is the best still and the fastest. For CPU, it's not as big as of a deal, any am5 CPU will work but optimally you should pair a higher end XX90 with a x3d for maximum performance. 7800x3d or 9800x3d.

If you're on a budget, the 3090 is a good option and most models should run on 24gb of VRAM. The newer 50 and 40 series have massive improvements in AI acceleration because yknow NVIDIA = ai company not a gamer company.

>>105666186
Maybe it's based on Linux performance, Samsung NVMes don't have good Linux drivers.

Friend bought a pre-built with a 5070 and wants to know what's a good monitor for it.
Is there any monitors that handle 4k well in the 300-400 dollar range, or should he settle for something 2k instead?
He linked me a Dell s2725qc for 300, it says its 4k but it doesn't seem great for gaming.

>>105666201
>couple outlier games
Don't act like the 9070XT's overall performance isn't being massively padded by its own set of outliers like Doom: Dark Ages, AC: Shadows, MH:Wilds, and OBV:RE.
MH:Wilds is being review-bombed partly due to the lack of performance optimizations, and the Oblivion Remastered devs announced they will share a performance patch preview in the future.

>>105666261
5070 @ 4K will work if he's willing to play the newer, demanding games with DLSS Performance/Balance mode enabled (+Frame Generation if running above 70 FPS with upscaling).
But there are not many decent 4K gaming monitors in the sub $400 price range.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xhcgXL/msi-mpg-274urf-qd-270-3840-x-2160-160-hz-monitor-mpg-274urf-qd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GzWzK8/gigabyte-m28u-280-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-m28u-sa

>>105666300
>5070 @ 4K will work if he's willing to play the newer, demanding games with DLSS Performance/Balance mode enabled (+Frame Generation if running above 70 FPS with upscaling).

Hmm, I'll show him those you linked but maybe I'll just tell him to try for a 2k monitor instead then since that's more in his range performance wise and price wise.
This was linked in the op on the monitor site, is this still a solid 2k monitor? Not familiar with AOC products..

Completed it on Intel Arc.

>>105666153
The specific card model matters more than the brand, their 1-Click OC model looks okay.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-1-click-oc-white/40.html

>>105666391
Some people in /pcbg/ own that monitor and they're happy with it, the local dimming zones aren't perfect but it's good enough for the asking price.
If he wants to play games with HDR enabled, that AOC is better.

Where can I cut costs on this? I want to get this as low as possible while still being able to respectably play some less intensive games.

>>105666452
a micro atx motherboard might be cheaper

>>105666509
That did drop it a bit. I'm also trying to stick to things with a good number of reviews, just to avoid sketchy brands.

>>105666452
I'd do the opposite and replace the Ventus first. Though you might be able to find a different one that the same price.
The cooler is just right for the CPU and cheap as dirt, but the Basic model might be a bit cheaper if you want to penny-pinch. Plus I don't think you can actually control (or turn off) the RGBT light on that one.

so what's with all the "mobos killing cpus" stuff going on? I'd want to get a ryzen 9 9950X3D but what's a good safe premium mobo that goes well with it and won't kill it randomly?

>>105666400
try playing the actual game

the campaign was literally better in the first game ffs

>>105666599 (meself)
>that the same
at the same
>on that one
By that one I mean this one, and the Basic doesn't have any lights, which is good.

>>105666452
>>105666519
You don't want a mini tower or whatever. You want SPACE. Get a mid tower, at the very least.

I wouldn't skimp on the psu unless you enjoy frying your electronics.

Just ask your dad for some extra money in exchange for doing the dishes or some chores or something.

>>105666609
>mobos killing cpus
retards being retards

install it properly and you won't have a problem

>>105666644
lmao it's not for me, it's at the request of my brother for his son, who wants to play fortnite and those weird freddie games. I already have a better PC than that

>>105666667
ok satan
I see you certainly don't have a better CPU cooler than that. Stock?

It is ok to play on 24 inch screen? Will i miss any graphical details? Sceen is calibrated and ready for content but distance to it is bothering me.
Asking those who has 24 and 27 screens.

>>105666667
Ah, I see. Well, it's his funeral.

Tell him to get work in the coalmines. He's already, what, 12? Bro is going to end up on this website before it's too late. Tell him that before it's too late. That way, he'll be able to afford a 5090.

>>105666692
I'm only asking this out of concern: do you know that screen size = better quality, right? The question you should be asking is whether you should go 4k/2k or stay at 1080, or so I hope...

Anyway, yes, 27 does look better, in certain cases, because things get enlarged, but to get those things both enlarged and look good you need 2k for 27, anyway.

>>105666706
*= / =
my bad

>>105666692
>but the distance
Well, what's the distance? It's not negligible.
To add to what the other anon said: depending on viewing distance and even your eyesight, it is quite possible that you might actually be able to see certain (meaning distant in 3D games) details better if you get closer even on a 1080p@24", but the problem is that you'll also see the individual pixels better. Likewise 1080@27 would have the same positive and negative aspects, so past 24 you'd want to go up in res.
That is unless you're already on 1440p, in which case 24 is arguably too small already.

>5500X3D
Holy fuck AM4 will never die

>>105666785
Hmm will it require motherboard bios update right?

>>105666803
Probably. They still push out BIOS updates on AM4 for security.

>>105666785
5700X3D chad here, literally no reason to upgrade.

are Intel GPUs worth considering yet?

How will the Iran-US war affect GPU prices anon?

>>105666853
B580 has no competition at all under $300

>>105666858
well, anon, at this rate there won't be any gpus at all and we'll all be dead

they are playing around with nuclear war and the orange retard is isreal's puppet so we are absolutely fucked beyond belief

>>105666870
So, it is to the low end what AMD is to the mid-range?

>>105666882
If you consider the 200-300 dollar price range low end nowadays, then yes.

>>105666882
9060XT 16GB @ $350, but it's hard to find good models at that price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BxRnTW/asrock-challenger-oc-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9060xt-cl-16go
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w2WmP6/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-11350-03-20g

>>105666858
There won't be a war, no one has the appetite to provoke Trump. I'm registered independent.
Iran is too weak, they've been letting the Israeli air forces pound them.

I am forgotten...

Reminder for all the newfag DIY builders here
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

>>105666930
Based weeb tricking normies into avoiding AMD/Nvidia builds so the prices go down for me

>>105666103
>He's doing more damage to amd than any shill can do.
I'm not sure the 20 or 30 people that make up this general are a significant portion of AMD's potential userbase.

>>105666930
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
Me.

>>105666926
Very cold, very fast, in games losing only 10 fps, but anyway your poortx card will not able to run at 150+ real frames.

>posted in old autosaging thread without even noticing
>bought and assembled my new PC just before WW3 and nobody will be around to play with in (modern) games anymore

>>105666264
>irrelevant goygen graph

>>105667201
None of those games got FG running.
Upscaling is very relevant for modern cards, that's why RDNA3 owners are still hoping for an official FSR4 compatibility update.

>>105667194
>WW3
Not happening, Iran was informed ahead of time. This is a show of force.
Ayatollah Khamenei's priority is to prevent civil unrest and avoid getting Saddam'd.

My new build is working, hooray! But for some reason my AIO cooler is now super loud. I ordered a 360mm version rather than trying to figure it out.

>>105667313
Have fun with it.

>>105666926
way too expensive compared to a 265K and its not even a KS

>>105667313
fan curve?

Would you buy a $135 8TB HDD (5400 RPM, 256MB cache) for cold storage of your JAV and other media due to the price-to-storage ratio relative to SSDs or is it not worth it?

>>105667390
I buyed a 16tb for 200 bucks and it was mega worth it

>>105667390
I'd rather get the WD Blue 8TB one (CMR).
That Seagate HDD is probably a CMR drive too, but they have a worse reputation recently (server drive related).
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bNCZxr/western-digital-wd-blue-8-tb-35-5640-rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd80eaaz

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-hard-drive-controversy-persists-as-scammers-discover-methods-to-alter-reliability-metrics

>>105666609
avoid assrock which is 95% of the reason cpus are dying and you'll be okay

>>105667448
I just checked /r/ASRock, their boards are still killing CPUs & a Tachi's VRM capacitor popped.

I have become so accustomed to silence. Are modern hard drives still loud when they go around looking for files? I want some cheap storage...

>>105667472
i thought asrock had redeemed themselves but it seems not

Who the fuck ever recommended buying Assrock?

>>105667495
They've been shit for 23 years. Imagine how awful Gigabyte is and then multiply that by 10.

>>105667497
Just today one of those popular youtuber tech guys did.

>>105667497
almost every tech youtuber recommended the hdv/m.2

>>105667497
It's a DIY brand of a major OEM, you'd think they would be more risk-averse with their BIOS.
Someone's guessing the CPU damage is happening before the board can apply the updated microcode instructions.

>Asrock is trash
>Gigabyte is trash
>Asus is trash
So only get MSI?

>>105667491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJM8rHfsgjk
Improved but still there. Worth it though. No more annoying than your fans at low RPM, just more distinct. It'll grow on you, like your PC is talking to you. (:

>>105667535
ASUS is mostly just overpriced.
Gigabyte is fine, they just don't stand out as much compared to ASUS (ROG brand + features) or ASRock (value products).
MSI usually sets stricter default BIOS settings (voltage & current) because they want to minimize RMAs.

>>105667535
Asus makes the best motherboards on the market. Who told you they were trash? But yes, MSI is up there too. I'd only ever buy MSI or Asus boards. I would never buy Asrock or Gigabyte. But to be fair, there's not much competition and they're all garbage anyway, some are just less garbage.

>>105667359
Whatever is set by default. cba. I'd rather just drop $100 on a new one.

But if the new one is loud too, I'll fuck with the fan curves or something. Maybe undervolt the housefire 13700k.

So AMD is better than Nvidia this generation right?

>>105667571
>Maybe undervolt the housefire 13700k
Did you update the board BIOS? Small chance of that chip croaking if you lost the silicon lottery.
There are also some simple undervolt guides, lmk your board model if you're interested.

>>105667585
You mean 9000 series vs 50 series? Definitely. 50 series isn't even better than 40 series. Overall? Nvidia is still decades ahead of AMD.

>>105667595
Ye, I'm on latest BIOS. Thanks for your offer for help. Just gonna wait for my new AIO.

>>105667585
In terms of value, most likely. Check regional prices.
9060XT (16GB), 9070/XT, and 5070Ti are all worth considering if the price is somewhat reasonable.
I left out the 5060Ti 16GB because it usually has a decent premium over the 9060XT 16GB (can be used as a budget workstation card).

So like, you want to upgrade your CPU every 4 or 5 years, right? Well don't the mobo sockets change like every 4 years or so? So each time you need to upgrade your CPU you need a new mobo.

>>105667668
>So like, you want to upgrade your CPU every 4 or 5 years, right?
If there are significant productivity gains from that upgrade.
A PC mostly for gaming and MS Office loads don't need a CPU upgrade that often.

Rumor says the PS6 CPU won't have 3D-VCache.

>>105667495
what I've learned from this issue is that they're terrible LIARS who keep saying they've fixed the issue but get proven wrong every time
meanwhile room termperature IQ posters like the OP take assrock for their word at face value

>google "best [component] 2025"
>only buy the top result for each one
Explain why this would be a bad idea

>>105667764
it's not a bad idea but you won't be getting the best components

I guess for mobos is just ASUS or MSI

>>105667776
Where do you find the secret really for real best components list?

>>105667800
Gigabyte is fine, their AM5 boards had the fewest reported CPU deaths so far.
B650 Aorus Elite used to be commonly recommended in these threads back when Zen 4 launched.
This place was more active with more unique visitors, very few people came back to bitch about this board recommendation.

Bought a cpu and mobo and got a 512 gb ssd for free at newegg
MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX WiFi
AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
Free: Team Group T-FORCE VULCAN Z 2.5" 512GB SATA III 3D NAND
And -10.00 for combo

>>105667838
Board is a bit overkill for that CPU but I'm happy for you.

>>105667854
I was thinking that but im usually a best shit guyy getting old. I was gonna go with the 9800x3d and the x mobos but talked myself down

>>105667807
Tell us your region, budget, and use case.

>cheapest 9070xt at microcenter is $700
should i wait for a higher tier card at this point
i just want to gayme at 4k and i don't care about AI stuff

>he poorchased (lol) AMD

>>105665958
Allegedly it has a bad black crush issues...

>>105666930
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105402119/#q105403908

>>105668159
>he's also not saving more by buying more with Absolute Minority Devices

>>105667390
I'm going to buy that one and have it as my first internal backup and run torrents on it

>>105667535
Asus is very nice if you just disable all the bloatware in the bios before installing Windows. If you don't it is horrors beyond your imagination.

hello thread

>>105667764
Because you want to pay as little as possible so you can buy extra cheeseburgers. The strategy is to try to have alternate comparable components and then grab one of them on sale.

For example air coolers:
Peerless Assassssin
Phantom Spirit
Frozn A620 Pro SE

You set the lowest regular price of the cheapest one of them as your target price and then wait until any of them goes on sale lower than that. This is how I have an infinite supply of cheeseburgers.

Thinking of buying a gaming laptop while on holiday in Japan. Is this retarded?

>>105668716
Yeah, if you're in Japan visiting a soapland is what is usually recommended on /g/

>>105667944
all roads lead to Jensen Huang's pockets

>>105665516 (OP)
AMD waifus SEXXXOO
>>105665586
>MLID
fake and gay, kys on the spot

>>105668797
holy onions

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8dczP is this ok, I just wanted to build a 1440p pc but isn't this a bit too expensive

>>105668861
motherboard is overpriced, you don't need a 9800x3d either a 9700x is usually enough, overspending on psu and gpu as well

>>105668861
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PQVyrM

shaved some money off

>>105668861
>1440p
>9800X3D
that's like the one resolution you don't need it for
1080p esports you want the most frames and aren't GPU bound
4K is so demanding you want to scrape every last bit of performance
1440p is neither, 9600X and 9700X are enough

>>105668882
>>105668907
>>105668941
Thanks! I guess I can upgrade the CPU and GPU later if needed.
Are there any other motherboards you’d recommend? I’m not from the US, but I can get most things from Amazon if I can’t find them locally.

>>105665586
his zen leaks are pretty good so that's a good sign for zen6... hopefully its another zen4-like improvement and not a zen5 one

>Have 6 2tb SSD's
>2 Samsung's
>2 WD's
>2 Crucial's
I have room for 1 more Sata SSD. But I currently have 1 Seagate HDD as well. So my OCD is telling me that I have to get a Seagate Sata SSD, which I cannot find barely at all and the ones I find are twice the price of the other Sata SSD's. What should I do?

>>105669067
I should get this SDD since most motherboards already have a heatsink right?

>>105669426
That's a QLC drive. I would not recommend having a QLC drive as your main drive. As a secondary drive they are fine.

>>105669426
>>105669435
Get the SK Hynix Platinum P41 for 10 bucks more. (with Neweggs promo code) That drive is superior in every way. Double the endurance, TLC drive rather than QLC, dram cache and better random times.

https://www.newegg.com/sk-hynix-2tb/p/0D9-003U-00ME7

>>105667566
it's a bit of a mixed bag, they often make both the best and the worst boards available on a socket

Wanna upgrade from my Acer Nitro XZ272U monitor with a budget of around 500 (700 leaf dollars) since I just spent around 1k replacing and upgrading other stuff
Any recs?

>>105669067
what country

>>105669572
Chile

>>105669517
Buy an entry-level studio monitor with: high color accuracy, true bit depth, anti-glare and flicker-free, high resolution and pixel density. Gayman monitors are a meme.

> occupation - 3d render, editing, animation, decodig, so performance for money is crucial for me
is anything good coming in autumn from CPU world? Im thinking of buying a great cpu (core ultra) + large case + some used 1080ti + cheap pcu and upgrade later or take some lightly used-new top gpu and wait for new releases, anything interesting on the way?

>>105669595
Yeah, 10 ms latencies are good, right? Never forget about the purpose. Monitors are very different for the purpose, like asus proart is for some color work while some aoc is more like gaming

>>105667566
>>105669485
You're both right

>>105669680
Asrock thinks different

>>105669681
Asrock is the shifty chink merchant that sells goods that you just know uses bootleg components because the price is way too good to be true

any aliexpress air blower recommendations? (cheap)

>>105669690
Or asus is just and overpriced corpo with corroding ports, everything is relative?

>>105665586
Sign me up for the 10800x3d.
>12 cores
>over 6ghz
>likely still around 100w
It would be perfect for some old games that require brute force via clockspeed and still lightning fast in new ones that love the cache.

>>105669770
bump

>>105669877
https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/3256807461753203.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.71081c24IoTU28&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

>>105669889
this will kill xer components with static discharge

>>105669946
vacuums do that, not blowers.

How many gens until AM6? Kind of feels like I bought into AM4 a bit too late with Ryzen 3000 in 2019 going from my 4770K.

>>105670065
Zen7 in 2 gens or about 36-54 months

5500x3d once again proves that AM4 is the GOAT. That and it is more dregs from epyc contracts.

>>105670094
Wish that threadripper on the other hand wasnt such a pile of shit

>>105670105
it wipes the floor with any other HEDT chips.

I'll upgrade to AM4 once AM5 is available

>>105667497
Those who thought
>I bet all those tech companies are just SCAMMING me out of my money with greedy profit margins
>so this company selling for low prices must be the real value deal
Tale old as time. Even when it comes to Chinese products you can tell if something is decently made if their prices are significantly higher than their in-region competition.

>>105670112
but the socket lasts only 1-2 generations

>>105667497
last year I was here putting together a new PC and everyone was shilling the Asrock Steel Legion as the best of the best motherboard for the price and performance.
now you fags act like it never happened.

With how slim mb profit margins normally are and their lower than normal prices, I wouldn't be surprised if Asrock are using used chips harvested from abandoned pcs or or QC failed chips and surface mounted components to bring costs down

>>105670202
Seems like you're trying to gaslight us here in the thread. Very odd.

>Advanced Marketing Devices
Not even once

>>105670078
Yeah, I've got time

>>105670112
It's buggy and hardly supported

>>105670229
>Novideo
Not even once

>>105670275
>beta testing the nvidia app ever
fucking retards

>>105670209
everyone recycles, it's not like there are any significant changes happening with capacitors, micro-controllers, and other things. so if it matches reference measurements, if it works - there is zero reason to not recycle it. also the produced stock of old models has to go somewhere. in reality - you will never know about it unless you check every single capacitor and every single chip - even buying something with retarded premium does not imply that each and every single components is brand-new right from production belt.
but it's not like recycling is done by mobo manufacturers - it is done by mobo component manufacturers and suppliers. mobo manufacturer might not even know that portion of components is recycled.

>>105670275
>instantly assumes the topic is about gpus and not cpus
That chip on your shoulder must be pretty heavy anon.

What should I upgrade lads?

>>105670502
If you play 1440p or would like to in the futture. 9070 non xt would be a good upgrade.

>>105670502
I personally would wait until next gen GPU's and upgrade then but it's up to you. A 5700X3D is a cheap and very good CPU upgrade.

>>105670546
>>105670601
Sounds good, yeah i play 1440p I only really play EU4 and soon to be EU5 and football manager
was wondering if i should get a CPU or GPU, I can afford both if i need to

>>105670275
>>105670282
That filter/photo mode was working just fine when it was part of GeForce Experience.
NVIDIA fixed the performance-related issues with game filter/photo mode, that's why it's "suddenly enabled by default".

>>105670850
it crashes games when it's enabled though which is why it's no longer enabled by default as of the latest nvidia app update

>>105670502
your storage and monitor then work from there

>>105670866
>it crashes games when it's enabled though which is why it's no longer enabled by default as of the latest nvidia app update
Stop lying, I always use DDU when I update my graphics driver and clean install the NVIDIA App.

11.0.4.159 (latest version) has the filter/photo mode enabled after a clean install.
Those features an old & proven feature that goes back to the late 2010s.
The performance issue was caused after the move to the NVIDIA App, they fixed it.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/gfecnt/geforce-experience-update-ansel-rtx-freestyle-out-now/
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/gfecnt/nvidia-freestyle-ansel-enhancements-geforce-experience-article/

Can anyone recommend a wireless keyboard and mouse?

>>105670907
make sure to avoid asus

>>105670907
keychron wireless keyboard and keychron mouse

>>105670914
>wireless
Don't do this

Someone explain to me, isn't this a retarded thing to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ggq_S3sDQ

>>105670923
Yes, it's retarded, read the viewer comments.
ReBar performance impact is tested by NVIDIA on a per-game basis.
>>105664239

>>105670907
keychron keyboard and razer viper v3

>>105670947
>tested by NVIDIA on a per-game basis
other than the 30 games supported at launch, no other games have rebar enabled on nvidia

>>105671009
You need to start showing some proof of your baseless claims.

>>105671009
>no other games have rebar enabled on nvidia
Go fuck yourself, I don't even own most of those games.

For those who have upgraded recently: How much use have you gotten out of the upgrade? Do you regret your purchase?

>>105671101
I got 100% more performance in most games while using 50% less power. I actually think this is the best PC i've built since I learned from my mistakes of overpaying.

>>105671036
>>105671053

>>105671212
One of the biggest releases of the year that had millions of players has awful frametimes and 1% lows on GeForce because nvidia can't into rebar. If you care about a stable framerate you buy AMD CPU + GPU for smart access memory end of discussion.

>>105671212
This guy is just so pathetic, always citing old problems, always reverting to broken games' performance.
The devs admitted they needed to release a performance patch for that mess.

>>105671207
What was you're before-after?

Rebar is a huge upgrade for AMD in directstorage games. Nvidia loses hard in spiderman 2 unless you turn on RT then they catch up

>>105671227
>It's the games fault!!!!
Oblivion remastered is a piece of shit. Rebar on novideo is also a piece of shit. These are not mutually exclusive things. 9070 XT fairs way better in this unoptimized piece of shit due to smart access memory. Quit coping.

>>105671224
GeForce and Radeon have different architectures with different performance bottlenecks.
Radeon GPUs scaling better REBAR doesn't make them better than GeForce, it just means their chip design is more vulnerable to memory bottlenecks.
What matters is the real-time performance of the games you actually play.

>>105671246
>Nvidia loses hard in spiderman 2
RT disabled, you're having a meltdown kid.

>>105671252
>Rebar
Different GPUs, different architectures, different performance bottlenecks.
Radeon GPU performance scaling better with REBAR-enabled just means these chips have a bigger memory bottleneck.

A GPU being more reliant on REBAR doesn't make it better. What matters is the final FPS.

>>105671276
AMD tranny doesn't understand this but uses Rebar as a shield kek

>>105671291
He's bitterly regretting his decision to pass on the $780 Gigabyte Gaming OC 5070Ti for a $690 ASUS Prime 9070XT.
Dumbass thought the 9070XT is better because it's more reliant on REBAR.
That's how his brain works.

>>105671303
Must be his first time making a poor purchasing decision than doing mental gymnastics to convince himself that what he lost was terrible and that his current purchasing decision was justified. It's honestly embarrassing because we've all been there but he goes above and beyond to cope so hard every thread. He's too busy shilling and posting here than actually using his new GPU to play games that by the time he actually decides to play some slop he'll be needing an upgrade to play 2026 GOTY. kek

>>105671254
>>105671266
>Pay $900+ for 8 more fps
Only nvidiots are this retarded

>>105671303
>Shilling hardware he owns
He's literally cut from the same cloth as enkidu/oropay

>>105671332
Sounds like you missed out on getting a 5070ti for about 90 dollars more not 900. I understand that math and graphs are very hard for you since you can't read numbers or charts. Now you missed your chance and you'll have to pay 300+ over a 9070xt since the laws of supply and demand dictate that people want NVIDIA cards more than AMD.

>>105671207
>I got 100% more performance in most games while using 50% less power.
Forget benchmarks - how much has your experience been improved by the upgrade, and how many games did it allow you to enjoy that you couldn't before?
I'm mostly wondering about what others' experience has been like because I was considering a complete PC upgrade but I genuinely couldn't think of anything I'd want to use it for.

>>105671356
Share the specs of your current PC and your budget for the potential upgrade.

>>105671362
5600x
1080 ti
It's not really a matter of budget, I just don't think I'd actually be doing anything with a new PC that I couldn't already do on my existing system. so I was curious how much use others had gotten out of their upgrades, or whether people were just upgrading to play the same old games but now at 240fps.

>>105671356
My experience is a lot better from my old high-end 2021 system. It uses so much less power, is cooler and quieter. I have a 5070ti. Video encoding for my hobby is twice as fast and I tried using AI stuff like LLMs and gens and it's a lot faster and easier now.

I can fully max out all my older games like modded skyrim or GTA V at 120+ native 4k while sipping 220w... I can play path tracing games like Cyberpunk, Doom Dark Ages, and other tech demos with RTX much more smoothly, and now I have access to frame gen coming from a 3080. I'd say it's 100% worth it since I can play pretty much any new game that comes out without compromises on my 4k 144hz oled. Clair obscur, Oblivion, Doom, Stellar Blader, Black Myth, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, Yakuza: Like a Pirate, a lot of these games I was missing out on DLSS3/MFG so using it in person it's honestly not as bad as people say it is. However I'd leave it off if performance is good enough since you can notice artifacts sometimes. I'd rate my experience a 10/10 since my goal was getting 100% performance but using less power to do it is the cherry on top for me.

>>105671392
Playing old games on a monster rig is pretty insane, you will get more FPS than you possibly need and you'll have to frame limit. I played Quake 3 Deathmatch when I first got my new PC and it changed my life.

>>105671409
1400fps is not enough.

>>105671416
I can hear the coils through my screen.

>>105671392
CPU is fine for current games, and possibly even through the next cross-generation titles (2027~30, I know).
Don't upgrade if you're content with your current hardware, the video card market is a joke.

You can find some 9070/XT or 5070Ti restocks closer to MSRP, but you'll need to use some stock tracker.
Don't buy these cards if you don't see a need for them.

5060TI 16GB and 9060XT 16GB are okay upgrades if the price makes sense, but their average raster performance is about as good as a 3070Ti.

>>105671397
>Cyberpunk, Doom Dark Ages, Clair obscur, Oblivion, Stellar Blade, Black Myth, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, Yakuza: Like a Pirate
I guess it's a personal problem then since absolutely none of those games interest me in the slightest. But happy for you that you're enjoying the upgrade.
>>105671409
It just seems like pointless flexing to me but what do I know.

>>105671416
I love this game

>>105671435
If you're not playing any modern AAA then you'll be good just sticking with your 1080ti until the wheels fall off. There isn't a giant leap in performance for good value if you aren't going to be using RT and upscaling.

>>105671426
No coil whine from here.

>>105671454
It is pretty good.

>>105671426
dmc4 gameplay is 50% metal and 50% coil whine

>amd is winning
>haven't beaten 3 year old nvidia gpu
>current release is break even or worse than their own old gpu
>not competing with current gpu
>screenshots show a comparison between a gpu 4 tiers down the stack
>single digit market share

>>105671492
AMD tranny schizo thinks we're the same person Pepe-anon. He had a big meltie last night

>>105671492
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103838/rx-9070-xt-beats-rtx-5080-in-cyberpunk-2077-3dmark-after-undervolting-rdna-4-hits-3-3ghz/index.html

embarrassing for $1450 5080 to lose to $650 9070xt

>>105671252
>>105671291
>>105671332
>>105671354
>>105671492
>>105671499
Can all of you discord trannies take you drama internet war back to whatever shithole you came from? This is a thread for helping people build pcs not your drama avatarfag shill wars. KILL YOURSELVES

>>105671499
if ayymd dropped a top end card that rivals anything I could atleast entertain the conversation
it doesnt even need to have driver, work, do anything
it would atleast be relevant some how some way

>>105671524
this is a response to the posts in this thread, nothing more
I am not a part of this

>>105671522
>OC vs. stock comparison
>>105665335
>>105665367
The reality is people would rather overpay for those 5080s than buy a 9070XT.
Prices will only go down if AIBs have trouble selling them.

>>105671460
That's the conclusion I more or less came to, but I wondered what the experience was like for others that did go for an upgrade. To me most AAA games are shit you only buy to justify your expensive hardware and to gawk at graphics and see how far you can push your framerates, with absolutely no substance to them. But maybe I'm too closed minded there. That's why I was curious about the experiences others have had.

>>105671492

>>105671524
> thread for helping people build pcs
not with that retarded OP and the amd poorfag who shits up the thread because he couldn't get a 5070ti and wasted his lifesavings on rdoa4

>>105671570
Did that slide convince you to pay $690 for a 9070XT over the $780 5070TI?

>>105671554
in what world? 5080s and 5090s are collecting dust at microcenter. every 9070xt is sold out. you live in lala land.

>>105671585
You're just as bad as him using brand fag insults and language. All you brand war cunts need to rope. None of these corporations are your friend.

>>105671522
1300 vs 950 is the real pricing here btw

>>105671570
still a single digit dgpu market share

>>105671606
I live in US and the 5080 is $1400+ here while 9070xt is $650. The 5080 is literally twice the price and not even 15-20% faster.

>>105671570
That explains why teslas lock up their jeet drivers and spontaneously explode.
>>105671604
Threads were civil when he was banned.

>>105671612
>while 9070xt is $650
No they're not.
And none of us recommended people to pay the premium for a 5080, even the mass-replier.
People buy it because they just want one.

The recommendation was always between the 9070XT and the 5070Ti.
People can buy the PNY 5070Ti for $750 during Best Buy's restocks if they're lucky.

>>105671604
Yep. Brand war bullshit and flamewarring is supposed to be against the rules and all these niggers should be banned but the mod must be a console tard or some shit so he lets all these fags fuck up the thread.
>3. Trolling is not permitted. Do not instigate or participate in flamewars.

>>105669656
no. new CPUs aren't until end of next year IIRC

>>105671603
>in what world?
In the real world where NVIDIA's very likely to reduce GeForce GPU production to make room for more Chinese data center GPUs.
Supplies will only get worse. AIBs know this and they can wait for more desperate people to pay the premium.

This was the mass-replier's last /pcbg/ thread.
Even he didn't recommend people to overpay for an RTX 5080.

NVIDIA used to enforce a stricter pricing guideline for board partners, they were required to sell at least one base MSRP model.
It seems like the AIBs were able to convince the people at NVIDIA to let them sip a profit off of that AI craze.

I got a 9800x3d recently, I got -35 and +200 on the PBO settings with curve optimizer
now, I see my core clocks aren't going past 4.7ghz (I have it on Auto, same as core voltage)

I have tried static OC and no problem there, but I'd rather not have it on all the time
any way to make it go higher than 4.7ghz dynamically?
maybe I have to increase the load and temps? I tried furmark cpu burner and temps reach like 75º C with 100% usage but it's still not getting past that

with HWMonitor I see it went to 5.4ghz during while booting but maybe it kept the OC settings shortly before going back to Auto

I know I've got a pretty niche use case here but hear me out. What's a CPU I can upgrade to, from a 1600AF, that'll halve software-rendering times for my videos?

I've been using Vegas Pro 13 for many years, ever since it came out I think. Unfortunately, recent NVIDIA cards are not compatible with Vegas Pro 13, so I've been without GPU accelerated rendering for 5~ years now. Yep, I'm rendering entirely on the CPU. The obvious solution would be to upgrade to a newer version of Vegas that doesn't suck, but it's only on Humble Bundle once or twice a year and piracy is a trojan minefield nowadays.

The Ryzen 1600AF is basically a rebranded 2600, ie a 2018 CPU. It's got 6 cores and 12 threads. How much faster should I expect rendering to be on something like a 5700x, which has 8 cores and 16 threads?

i think i will buy a used 3090

>>105671768
>now, I see my core clocks aren't going past 4.7ghz (I have it on Auto, same as core voltage)
The CPU is clock stretching because you set an unrealistic -35 undervolt.
Loosen that to -20 or even -15.

>HWMonitor
HWInfo is better, you need to check the "effective clock" readings.

>>105671524
It's the same thing in every general on every board I've visited, nolife schizos spamming their nonsense. Not even when I was a neet did I have that kind of nolife. Just imagining what kind of horrors spamming that shit day after day makes me believe in Jesus. Dog Bless.

Yeah nah I don't buy any of it bros. Dlss schizo who has been absent recently (amd troons activity ramped way up at the same time. Coincidence? I think not), amd troon, the people arguing with him are all just the same mentally ill samefags split personalities arguing with each other. Pcbg has been enkidus sanitarium for years. This thread is dead and, literally one schizo just talking to himself.

>>105671800
These can suddenly die due to a vulnerable power delivery design (cumulative transient spikes can end up breaking down a DrMOS).
Search for "dead 3090" or a similar phrase.
3090 Ti has an improved board design, it's even safer than a 4090 or a 5090's.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v26F9C

r8

h8

masterb8

>>105671952
exactly these threads would be empty without all me.

>>105671962
>9950x
get a 9950x3d or a 9800x3d senpai

>>105671962
I would consider an AIO for that 9950X if it's going to run near maximum utilization quite often.

I've been out of the loop after GTX 780 launch. I would like to get something that will allow me to generate ai images but not expensive.

>>105671768 (Me)
>>105671856
okay found my issue
power plan maximum processor state was at 99%
if I set it to 100% it goes up to 5.4ghz but temps go up to 95º C
tested this with -25

I'm just gonna keep it at 99% and maybe set it to -30 to keep it cool (doesn't go past 75º C)
-35 at 100% crashed right away

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>105671962
Don't buy e versions of corsair or gl versions of msi psus

>>105672003
>I'm just gonna keep it at 99% and maybe set it to -30 to keep it cool (doesn't go past 75º C)
just set a lower temperature limit in the BIOS
and it doesn't matter if it goes to 95 C in prime95, you aren't running that 24/7

>>105672009
holy kek
I installed the latest drivers (released a few days ago) and some of my issues got fixed (didn't have many to begin with)

maybe I'm just lucky but you can try

>>105672009
AI will fix this

>>105671774
You should check whether your board supports the 5700X with a BIOS update.
Worth testing considering the price of the chip. Buy it from a retailer with a good return policy.
I don't think there's a benchmark for your specific use case, there are other rendering benchmarks.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5700x/5.html

>>105672031
>just set a lower temperature limit in the BIOS
oh true, I'm gonna try that right now

if I don't reply I died by burning

>>105672034
Don't feed the troll.

nvidia xisters how do you like my build with 5090 FE??? I love generating AI female versions of myself in stable diffusion to make myself feel valid whenever my neo vagina starts hurting too much.

>>105672070
Very nice xister I love it. AMPoor radeon chuds could never make something so tasteful.

>>105672031 (Me)
>>105672049
shiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttt
works perfectly my brother

-30 and max temp of 80º C gets me 4.9ghz maximum with all cores
for single cores they can reach 5.4ghz with even lower temps
so this is my sweet spot, I might try 85º C limit but I don't really need it, as right now I have more performance and lower temps than before anyway

cheers

>>105672070
>I love generating AI female versions of myself in stable diffusion to make myself feel valid whenever my neo vagina starts hurting too much.
continue

>>105672043
Oh cool, thanks. That site also has a 2600 review (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-2600/9.html) which is helpful as my CPU is just a rebranded 2600.
Per their Blender tests, the 5700x gets 188.5s vs the 2600's 372.28s, so it's approximately 2x faster than the 1600AF. The 12 and 16 core Ryzens are about 2.6x and 3.2x faster respectively, but it doesn't justify the price imo. For the price of a 5950x or 5900x I should probably just buy a 5700x and 32+ gigs of RAM.

>air cool with 3 fans
>aio with 3 fans on the radiator
which will be lower temp?

>>105665516 (OP)
Realistically how much time for an OLED burn in to be really noticable and bothersome when I am 90% of time gaming and content consuming?

Did anyone actually make a proper test scenario for burn in?

>>105672393
AIO. Even Noctua is planning to release one next year.

>>105672414
it varies on your panel. every panel is different. my lg c1 has a evo panel because its one of the last units made. early lg c1 owners dont have it so they burn in quicker than mines.

>>105672464
>>105672464
>>105672464

>>105672227
>so it's approximately 2x faster than the 1600AF
you should also consider that zen 3 has unified cache with no cross-ccx latency compared to the earlier ryzens, this helps a lot with gaming, even if the average fps is roughly just about double, the 0.1% and 1% lows are way better on zen 3, everything plays much more consistently and smoothly

>>105668654
>bios
>bloatware
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>105669435
>>105669471
What is a QLC drive? Where do you even see that?

>>105673737
You need to do some digging on your own, manufacturers aren't obligated to share this information.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0
https://www.hpe.com/us/en/what-is/qlc-vs-tlc.html

>>105673753
Thanks for the info, I'd never even heard of that before.

>>105673791
Here is the web source of that spreadsheet.
https://borecraft.com/

B450m ds3h mobo
Ryzen 3 3200g cpu
GTX 1650 super 4 gb
16 GB DDR4 3200 (2x8)

I made this build in 2020, knowingly with an underpowered cpu. It has been fine so far for gaming and regular use, but lately the stuttering and cpu bottleneck has started becoming a lot more noticeable, especially at boot and when playing a game and streaming on discord.

Now that the prices have come down a lot, I'm gonna get a 5800x and a larger cooler (peerless assassin 120 SE). the new cpu is now 145€, while the 3200g cost me 99€ at launch 5 years ago...

What do you think? anything else I'm overlooking about the build or upgrade?

>>105672468
cant the fucking mods see what IPs connect from a vpn and block them from making threads

>>105673897
Compare the price between the 5800X and the 5700X, the performance difference is minor.
Worthy upgrade either way.
Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit is fine, there's a V3 Peerless Assassin with a new fan in the US. IDK about Europe's availability
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5700x/

>>105671962
16-core benefits greatly from an AIO, preferably an ALF3 420.

>>105671653
No 5080 Ti/Super i.e.

>>105674168
NVIDIA will release refresh cards, the gaming division needs to maximize earnings every quarter.
Refresh cards also satisfy some of the pent-up demand.
RTX 60 card launch will experience an even worse supply drought without a Super/Ti refresh in between.

>>105674145
The price difference was negligible (2-3€) so I got the 5800X

>>105673897
getting 2 more 8gb sticks to 32gb ram will also help with performance from dual rank per channel because ddr4 limits performance in single rank mode