Thread 105670942

>PC too loud to sleep in the same room
I should have bought the baby poop fans

>>105670942 (OP)
I could sleep with my pc at full load in the same room
Sorry you didn't invest money in good cooling, bro. You'll know to do that next time, though

>>105670942 (OP)
There are silent alternatives half the price, same build quality, ask GayEye

>>105670984
such as?

>>105670942 (OP)
Noctua is meme, just be man and get Delta fans.

I mightve had pc running to download torrents overnight as a kid but these days I'd never have pc on while Im asleep.

>>105670942 (OP)
Will never buy Shill Tuah because of you.

The biggest issue for my sleeping is my NAS due to the HDD noise. I also live in a studio apartment, so all of my computers are in my "bedroom".

As if poop fans are silent. Your system is just overheating. Also, shut down computer for night.

>>105671024
>As if poop fans are silent.
Poop fans are pretty great. I modded my ebike charger to have a poop fan and it went from WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE to hummmmmmm when I charge my battery.

>>105670942 (OP)
I have 2 of the more expensive bequiet! fans on my CPU, probably going to need a bigger cooler eventually.
I also have 2 smaller ones on the front.
The back one I cheaped out on and will need to replace it's some other brand, looks like a grey knockoff noctua.
Non of these are super silent at max, but are great with a custom fan curve.
The back "cheap" one is pretty bad though. Wouldn't recommend.

>Thermaltake ToughFan 14
This is the cheapo one I mentioned. Need a better one.
>Be quiet! Silent Wings 4 PWM High-Speed 120mm
These are the ones on the CPU. These are good.

If I'm getting a new CPU cooler should I go for noctua instead of these?

>>105671004
>here this 100dB fan for your bedroom bro
yeah sounds like a good idea...
even if some fans have better cfm, noctua has better bearing which is the main source of noise at low-speed.
I've tried everything even the fanciest phanteks or bequiet fans and nothing come close to noctua bearing, pleas give me the names of manufacturers taht produce low-bearing-noise because I don't know them.
>>105671022
for the same reason I switch to a new setup
2TB ssd main nas
8TB hdd backup server with 2TB dedicated to back up the first nas and the remaining 6TB for additional storage of things I don't need daily.
the "backup" nas is usually off 99% of the time.

Does anyone else actually like loud fans? I have tinnitus so that's part of it but it didn't bother me/sounded kind of pleasing when I was a kid too

>>105670942 (OP)
Why are your fans even spinning so much if you're asleep? Mine barely make any noticeable noise when I'm not doing anything. Adjust your fan curve.

>>105671140
It's crazy how reactive and jumpy default fan curves are for no reason whatsoever. Basically every single modern CPU will have temperature spikes where they go from 40c to 50c in half a second and then back down just as fast and every single default fan curve is set up to respond to that as if fans need to spin up to compensate when they don't.

So the majority of average consumers with a pc are just sitting on a dogshit fan curve that is a nuisance for no reason whatsoever.

>>105671088
>2TB ssd main nas
>8TB hdd backup server with 2TB dedicated to back up the first nas and the remaining 6TB for additional storage of things I don't need daily.
>the "backup" nas is usually off 99% of the time.

Man I feel like a retard for trying to get 8TB redundant as my first NAS.
Probably will be expensive and loud.
I just wanna hoard as much anime and stuff as possible before the crackdowns..

I thought they were mocha colored, thanks for ruining that for me forever.

I made the biggest mistake before buying the 3000 rpm 120mm Noctua fans, loud as jet engines

>>105672890
You bought industrial fans?

Poop. Test.

>>105672914
yes but that was like over 5 years ago I still have both of them laying around now.

Maybe one day I will be rich enough to buy a house with a basement to put loud servers

genuinely how the fuck are you computers so damn loud what the fuck are you doing.

>>105671425
>Man I feel like a retard for trying to get 8TB redundant as my first NAS.
why? what's the issue? the capacity really depends on your needs but the backup is mandatory.
I didn't expand much but I also have another 8TB nas just for movies, this one does not have backup, only raid 1.
I have big plans to upgrade by backup setup with more cold storage stored elsewhere
>I just wanna hoard as much anime and stuff as possible before the crackdowns..
download the anime and reencode in av1, I'm currently in the process of reencoding movies to av1 but it's a massive pain

>>105672992
running their fans at 100% because they're too stupid to configure the fan curve

>>105672992
Playing video games.

>>105672992
>>105673084
Honestly most of the noctua "hype" is centered around the fact people can't adjust their damn fan curves properly ot that they require full RPM for the required cooling.
Most sleeve/FDB fans at 600-800RPM are basically silent.

I have a fully watercooled PC that is fixed at 800 rpm or below, only noise out of it is electrical switching noises on the pump if you put your ear to it.

>>105671088
>>105671425
A NAS for 8TB only sounds such a waste. Unless you have a spare machine and some spare drives lying around and can assemble it for pennies, it's cheaper to just get a used 8tb ssd and a single 8tb hdd for backup.

>>105672992
some of us have more sensitive ears. I can hear HDDs spinning up in my NAS from two rooms away, and they are in a vibration proofed tray and a sound proofed steel case.

>>105673174
>Honestly most of the noctua "hype" is centered around the fact people can't adjust their damn fan curves properly ot that they require full RPM for the required cooling.
Not true. The hype around Noctua is because they have 1. very high quality fans that last very long and cover all possible edge cases like low rpm startup or 5V operation, 2. in every imaginable size, rpm, focus on pressure OR airflow, and 3. god tier user support.

like, does Be Quiet have a 200mm 5V fan that I can power from a cr2032 battery as a glorified room fan or install in an AVR? Or 40mm fans I can put in a Dreamcast or PS2 to make them half as noisy? They probably don't.

>>105673376
yeah but making them 2-3x more expensive maybe it just isn't worth the price tag

>>105673376
>A NAS for 8TB only sounds such a waste
I don't think so, it really depends on your needs.
the 2TB nas is an odroid h3 (os + data on same ssd), I say nas but it's an actual server with various services installed, smb share being one of them.
the other two 8TB nas are synology ds223j with seagate ironwolf 8TB 5200rpm (slow rpm on purpose, I don't need 7200 or above as they make too much noise and the network interface is 1Gb anyways).
1GbE two-slot nas with raid and encryption and no internet access, that's all I need really.
I don't have a lot of data but the data I have I want it to be safe, I'm planning on extending my offsite backup and I might go for 14TB or greater hdd this time.

>>105671013
>I mightve had pc running to download torrents overnight as a kid but these days I'd never have pc on while Im asleep
same here. its off every night before bed

>>105673392
>making them 2-3x more expensive maybe it just isn't worth the price tag

I have noctua fans that have been running for over 15 years without bearing noise. I had yate loons that started having bearing noise after 2 years.

If they last 5-10x as long, then a 2-3x higher price is nothing. Especially since you can ask them to be replaced if you can send proof that they became noisier.

And they are the only available silent fans in many edge cases and OEM-only sizes, so it's not like you have a choice if you want to replace something that isn't bog standard 90/120/140mm PC fan.

>>105673741
I've been running default fractal design, be quiet and arctic fans for years now and don't hear any annoying grinding noises from their bearings.

My computers run 24/7

>>105673768
maybe your ears are not as sensitive? I can hear a dog whistle or capacitors getting charged up in a smart switch, so the steady tak-tak-tak noise that worn out bearings make is, if you pardon the pun, unbearable.

nawk tuah

>>105670993
>such as?

Any 120mm fan, you shouldn't be using anything other than 120mm+ fans in your build. AIO water cooling exists for CPUs so there's no reason to use those tiny heatsinks with 80mm fans.

>>105670942 (OP)
>3 HDDs
>two 140 one 120 fans
>chinkshit replacement fans on the GPU
>poorfag CPU cooler for the poorfag CPU
>can sleep just fine even with a regular floor fan running when it's too hot
>during the day
Skill issue.

>>105673851
>Any 120mm fan
wrong, noctua fans are the most silent at any size
>you shouldn't be using anything other than 120mm+ fans in your build
I disagree, it only depends on what you're trying to do and your hardware

be quiet make comparable fans with the Silent Wings Pro 4 lineups, though are as expensive as noctua

>>105671088
>noctua has better bearing
cheapest piece of shit sleeve bearings in noctua tho

>>105674557
still the best there is

>>105674562
nope, oem fans/proper fans all have ball bearings.
noctua is nothing more than money in marketing by guy that is not even engineer.

>>105674588
we aren't talking about absolute performance in case you have n't realized but fucking NOISE and noctua bearings are infinitely better than the others

I had to switch back all my fans from Noctua to normal loud fans because they were so dead ass silent I had to listen to my neighbors fuck.

Just watercool. Even a set of 900RPM fans can cool off an RTX 5090 pc if they do so through a water loop.

>>105674557
>cheapest piece of shit sleeve bearings in noctua tho

they use fluid dynamic bearings.

>>105670942 (OP)
Don't keep your PC in your bedroom, put it in your office.

do you guys have a "winter mode" for pc fans? tuned mine back in summer last year now it feels like have a mini cooler in my room during the cold.

>>105670942 (OP)
am I the only one who just turns his computer off when he's done using it?

>>105675065
It's called quiet mode and turns on fans only when needed.

>>105670993
If you listen to this retard, you are retarded.

https://www.hwcooling.net/en/noctua-nf-a12x25-pwm-the-most-fine-tuned-fan-of-its-kind/

Read the graphs. Go to section 6.

Before that other retard bothers replying. If you can't hear the difference, cool. I don't care, I can. The numbers back it up.

>>105670942 (OP)
Use case for installing fitgirl repack overnight?

>>105670942 (OP)
>she has electronics turned on in their room while asleep (besides a possible alarm clock)
its like you intentionally want bad sleep

>computer in the same room you sleep in
I live in a 3 bed, 2 bath house all by myself. My PC is in a spare bedroom. The other bedroom is nicely furnished for any guests I might have to sleep comfy.

i put 3 of these 3000rpm fans on a 420mm radiator
in my custom loop
at 25% speed it is barely audible
at half speed it is audible from across the room but it exchanges so much air my exhaust is still cold even under full load
i set the fan curve to full ramp for shits and giggles once and it was audible from across my house with the doors closed in between each room
https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-industrialppc-3000-pwm

>>105673928
I have enjoyed my be quiets as well

>>105673928
>>105677641
i must have a defective fan or something because i bought a be quiet cpu cooler (dark rock 5) and the included fan sounds like an actual airplane at anything over 50% speed

>>105670942 (OP)
Why in the god damn do they have to pick such ugly ass colors? I get they're trying to stand out, and it works, but holy shit it doesn't go with any other computer parts on the market.

noc TUAH
blow on that thang

>>105677888
How often do you look into your case?

Am I the only one WITHOUT a transparent case? I don't mind the color scheme but also I don't even see it unless I perform maintenance.

You do clean your dusty PC from time to time, do you /g/?

>>105678203
>Am I the only one WITHOUT a transparent case?
Mine's semi-transparent.

>You do clean your dusty PC from time to time, do you /g/?
Yeah, every leap year.

>>105678203
I have dust filters on the intakes that I occasionally clean. Recently opened it up but there was no dust inside after years of use.
My tower is barely visible so even if I had one of those stupid transparent cases I wouldn't be able to see the insides.

>>105670942 (OP)
just put it in a closet or something

Mfw you realize we used to have ultra quiet, power magnesium fans before the great enshitification.

>>105676745
>he doesn't have computers in all his rooms
do you even shitpost on /g/ while you shower?

Not a problem on my fanless ARM notebook.

If the loudest part of your pc isn't the coil whine, the hdds or the coackroaches, you're doing something wrong

>>105678276
Are those cockroaches with us in the pc case right now?

>>105678276
Tanks assmon golf

>>105678276
Can't be HDDs because I have none.
Coil wine is well contained by the sound damping.
It's completely quiet until it goes under full load and the cockroaches start sweating.

shoulda got 180mm fans, they sound nice and don't need to go as fast

>>105673612
How do you download your gooning material though?

>>105673825
Use earplugs, simple as.

>>105674607
Source?

>>105670942 (OP)
shittua was surpassed 5 years ago by literal chink brands for half the price, fuck off

>>105679424
until those shitty pc fans' bearings give out in a few years

>>105672992
Goonsessions

>>105680091
Changing one in a "few years" sounds like a good deal to me, you still need to open and clean your shit yearly

>>105670984
>same build quality
Except that they start whining after 2-3 years while my 10yo Noctua is as quiet as on its first day

>>105670942 (OP)
>PC too loud to sleep in the same room
skill issue, I just buy 100 pairs of these for 10 bux
i can sleep in server rooms with these where the air is nice and chill
posting from work between naps, later!

>>105679003
>Use earplugs, simple as.

But then I won't be able to enjoy the subtle details in the dolby atmos mixed pink floyd blurays.

>>105679009
any noctua fan review lmao

>>105679001
With a good internet connection while I'm awake

>>105670942 (OP)
I used to use Noctua almost exclusively, then I swapped to Arctic. The pair of Arctic Bionix P120 fans that I put on my Hyper 212 are so damn quiet it isn't even funny, and actually cool my CPU under load better than the Noctuas I has on it, by about 6-8 degrees.

The only time I hear my 6 P14 case fans is when they are 90% or higher on the speed, and even then, they are barely audible.

TL:DR, I think Arctic makes better fans for less money than Noctua.

>>105680279
>spark plugs
...wut? don't those go in your car? why are chinks making spark plugs for ears?

>>105681637
plugs go in the butt, this is /g/ after all
show me your striped sox now

>>105672992
No, the real question is what the fuck are CPU and GPU manufacturers doing. Why does the computer need the fans to turn on while idling or even doing very simple low intensity stuff like using your browser? Why is it that you can buy a simple fanless pc and it works fine without fans? The computer should be able to detect that you need extra performance and only then turn on the fans.

>>105682284
most psus nowdays are semi-fanless with fans off up to 30-40% load
most gpus starting from 2017 are semi-fanless with fans that turn on only when gaming
most fans support turning off at <15% pwm
...you are complaining about a problem which has been solved for ages already, wut?
and besides
>what the fuck are CPU manufacturers doing
what the fuck does the cpu manufacturer have to do with how your cooler/fans work?
>The computer should be able to detect that you need extra performance and only then turn on the fans.
it's called a temperature sensor yeah

>>105682681
Why do computers make fan noise when you’re using the browser or doing very simple tasks?

>>105682768
...they don't?
configure your fans correctly maybe? you are literally replying to a post that explains that fanless operation for simple tasks is perfectly possible, are you a bot or something

>>105682940
It comes like that straight out of the box? Do you think that this is something that an average non-tech guy can do?

>>105679424
what the fuck is that

>>105683107
These are rubber pegs. You use these instead of screws. They allow the fan to wobble a little bit, dampening the vibrations before they get to the rest of the PC. Surprisingly effective.

>>105671013
Shutting off when you're not using it is good anyway, but how are you so busted you can't sleep with a computer idling?

>>105682284
>Why does the computer need the fans to turn on while idling or even doing very simple low intensity stuff
Most CPUs nowadays have extremely aggressive power gating, like Ryzens can go from 1MHz to 5GHz in a fraction of a second. Whenever they do that, the chip jumps up like 20C in heat output instantly. You can get around this by disabling turbo clocks, so the chips only hits "normal" high clocks and not the "you can cook eggs on me" high clocks. Intel is also at fault because they got stuck on older nodes and older tech for a decade, so all they could do was push to higher GHz to maintain advantage, and AMD followed suit so there's no gap between the two, as a result we have mid/lowrange chips clocked at fucking 5GHz.

>like using your browser?
using a browser is extremely far from low intensity stuff, they have a just-in-time compiled script engine, 4k videos, a fucking OpenGL 3d engine, etc etc.
I mean unless you are just reading text files on gamefaqs or something.

>>105670942 (OP)
I have Arctics p12 max and p14 with fluid dynamic bearing on my pc. They are a bit brittle so you need to be careful when installing them. But they are cheap and quiet enough for me. I am only able to hear them at night time when its silent outside, but they are very quiet.
Also be careful with the power supply, some of them come with shitty fans. So you bought a shitty one you will need to replace the fan. Discharge the capacitors first obviously.

>>105672890
You know you can adjust the fan curve in the bios right? My fans can also go to 3k RPM but i only let them get that high if my cpu gets over 90ºC. Which it never does, so if it ever sounds like a vacuum cleaner i know somethings wrong.

>>105672992
Probably using the stock fans. PSU, GPU and cases usually come with the shitiest fans imaginable.

>>105679424
GOAT

>>105672992
yeah, whatever could make all that noise?

>>105670942 (OP)
>I should have bought the baby poop fans
Overspec the cooling so you don't need the fans to be at high revolutions, that way it's almost unnoticeable.
Personally I've got the arctic p12 and they're almost silent in my computer, but I've got a 360 aio for a 7800x3d which barely consumes any power, the gpu's coil whine is much more annoying than the fan sound.

>>105683819
>I am only able to hear them at night time when its silent outside,
I don't hear my noctuas even at night, and I can hear the transformer in my AVR.


>They are a bit brittle so you need to be careful when installing them.
The Noctua A12s are rock hard and solid, some mad lad on youtube drove them up to like 8k rpm once until they finally broke a fan blade.

just turn of your pc before going to bed

>>105684161
>I don't hear my noctuas even at night
Your old and your ears are shit
>Noctua A12s are rock hard and solid
It's plastic. It breaks.

Stop sucking so much poopy dick anon.

>>105684396
>Your old and your ears are shit
I can hear a dog whistle and I can hear the coils in a router.

>It's plastic. It breaks.
One breaks if you handle it hard, the other breaks if you use it as a buzzsaw, I think it's very clear which one is superior here.

>>105670942 (OP)
>PC too loud to sleep in the same room
Normal people consider white noise a bonus and it helps them sleep better. You must have some weapons grade autism to have the opposite. I can't imagine the hell you put your parents through growing up.

>>105673376
>I can hear HDDs spinning up in my NAS from two rooms away, and they are in a vibration proofed tray and a sound proofed steel case
Since when did Daredevil start posting in /g/? How is he even reading the thread?

>>105684661
Pink noise can make you sleep better.
It sounds like rain.

Fans don't produce pink noise or even white noise.

>>105684481
>I think it's very clear which one is superior here
Sure, the expensive one wins in build quality. Who would have guessed?

>complex situation
>summarized in 4chnnel "speek"
>expecting well though replies
>exactly at the beggining of machine made replies era, well trained by the past magafaggots usefulidiots generation

The mass genocide, great filter is in effect, you will sleep pretty comfy, really soon anon, forever.

Just damp a square of toilet/kitchen with water and put them in your ears before going to sleep, you fucking poop brain, faggot, legion chrome user.

>>105671179
My fan curve is set at 0% until 81C then it linearly ramps up to 100% to 95C.
If laptops and mini-pcs from the past 15 years can do 100C constantly thermal throttling without widespread failures, a desktop can do it too.
R9-5900X going on 5 years now with zero issues.

>>105684798
So you are okay with buying substandard, easily breaking hardware?

Let me guess, you also have a Radeon card.

Broad/general question regarding cooling and noise:
I've been looking to build a NAS for years now, and have most of the parts for a ZFS system (Xeon E-2136, 64GB of ECC RAM, ITX ASRock Rack mobo, etc.) except for the case and HDDs, partly because I'm still trying to decide on a storage configuration but also because I live in Australia where it gets really fucking hot- and in an area specifically where there's so much demolition and construction work going on that everything inside has a thin layer of dust deposited upon it after like a single day.

The best cases I can source locally are the Jonsbo N series, the Silverstone DS series, and the Fractal Node 304 but the Jonsbo ones look like they'd get choked with dust instantly, Silverstone's offerings less so but most of them apparently have terrible airflow/thermal issues, kinda leaving just the Node 304 but I don't know how well it'll fit a tower cooler capable of managing the 65W Xeon on top of 6x 24TB HDDs, nor how silent the case will be with all the fans running and the HDDs seeking (important as my place is small enough that this thing will likely be within earshot of where I sleep).

Do you guys have any suggestions, re: alternative case options, or how to best to keep this thing silent/cool?

Also, apparently if you hacksaw the front of the Node off you can 3D print a new front panel for it that can take a 20cm Noctua fan, which would be great for dB/CFM but then it might leak more HDD noise, so I really don't know.

>>105685650
>6x 24TB HDDs
Nonce

>>105685702
This isn't twitter.

>>105685650
Jonsbo nas cases look really awesome but are overpriced, partially because they are the only ones making small synology/qnap style cases.

Fractal Design is your only real choice if you want a NAS case with efficient HDD cooling.

Who /phantek/ here?

Just turn it off.

>>105679424
>not compatible with ur ass
nothing personell
i tried em and didnt work with my shit

was thinking of getting fans from noctua... any model recs?

>>105688878
NF-A4x20 are great.

>>105670942 (OP)
>>105671004
it's unbelievable how little difference this shit makes
my solution to this problem was just to get bigger fans.

>>105680279
i use those at work so I cant use them at home

>>105685650
>keep things silent and cool
fyi pcs dont get cooler if you use fans they just radiate the heat away faster. you cannot fix hot boxing with fans unless you route heat to outside.

Do cases matter when it comes to cooling?

>>105689092
Yes, white ones are cooler.